satisfactory

[shy mulch]

That won't be one long manifold though, you'll have various inputs along the line

[dense violet]

yes but just use your fastest belt everywhere. You'll make fewer mistakes and yoru machines will start faster

[limpid cairn]

it has i think 25 manufactors

[peak wasp]

oky every in splitter - machines usse the best ?

[dense violet]

it'll stop you from accidentally using a lower speed belt somewhere causing a clog

[cunning siren]

Spiderbros can not jump straight up can they?

[dense violet]

I've seen the big ones basically jump straight up

[shy mulch]

If its a single manifold and the machines need 2k of an input, you must have 2k on that one belt. That doesn't work, you're doing something differently to what you explained

[cunning siren]

I'll have to test this

[dense violet]

like 150m

[peak wasp]

ok understand. thanks ^__^

[cunning siren]

Wuuuut!

[limpid cairn]

i meant that the manifold line needs 2k of an input not that one machine needs 2k of an input mb

[shy mulch]

You can't have 2k items on one belt

[limpid cairn]

problems need solutions 🤷‍♀️

[shy mulch]

Can you share specifics of how you've managed to get one belt to send 2k/min

[versed mesa]

Lol

[shy mulch]

If you're using mods then you should have mentioned that

[dense violet]

if you're talking about injection manifolds , those are just multiple manifolds and are stupid

[shy mulch]

That's what I was suggesting that he was using, but he said it's not

[vestal merlin]

Hi all, is there a way to turn off the goal for Phase 3 so it doesn't constantly show up on the top right of the screen? I want to be able to relax the vibe a bit and not have the pressure to build towards it

[carmine pine]

#announcements message

It's unfortunate that Jason has to go through things like this. The anniversary is a nice milestone, but it's disappointing that we're still waiting for the game to feel truly finished. One of the only noticeable improvements since early access is that autosave no longer feels rough or laggy.
Also, how hard would it be to add a pause button for that incredibly annoying boombox? Instead, we have to disable seasonal events just to avoid it, and then remember to re-enable them when winter comes. It really feels like this is being forced on us.

[dense violet]

do you mean like a manufacturer needs 2000 of an item because the 4 items they need total up to that?

[shy mulch]

He said its 25 manufacturers

[limpid cairn]

how are injection manifolds stupid?

[versed mesa]

Lmfao

[dense violet]

because they're just multiple manifolds linked up together. It's needless and makes design much more awkward.

basically no benefit to them over having just seperate lines

[shy mulch]

Saw your screenshot, how many items per minute are on that conveyor?

[edgy python]

What does missing string table entry mean #screenshots message

[shy mulch]

Translation issue

Check your language settings

[limpid cairn]

1500.3 per minute

[upper gale]

That .3 though 😔

[shy mulch]

Not possible, the fastest belt is mk6 and it does 1200/min

[limpid cairn]

im injecting / merging to belts tho for the manifold

its hard to explain

[shy mulch]

That's not hard to explain. It's just multiple manifolds

[dense violet]

that belt still doesn't have 1500 on it

[edgy python]

Why can I not get recycled plastic recipe I have already gotten recycled rubber and have opened 25 hard drivers rescanned each one and I still can’t get recycled plastic is there something different with recycled plastic

[shy mulch]

You have multiple manifolds beside each other and you're calling it one manifold

[limpid cairn]

i believe we have a different meaning of manifolds?

[upper gale]

That was the problem from the start

[shy mulch]

Yes, everyone except you has one meaning, and you have a different meaning

[upper gale]

Lots of people interpret the terms differently. Like "balancer" as well

[dense violet]

a manifold is a system that deliver items along a belt overflowing to machines

an injection manifold is just attaching another manifold along the line to fill it with more parts

[versed mesa]

Am the same

[shy mulch]

I don't see how. There's pretty clear definitions of all these terms

[dense violet]

a belt balancer is different from a system being Load balanced

[upper gale]

There isn't one set standard shown anywhere. At what point a manifold stops being a manifold or a balancer stops being a balancer and when are they considered both, ect

[shy mulch]

If a row of machines needs 2000 items and there's a manifold along them all with 2 inputs, that's not one manifold, that's 2 manifolds

[dense violet]

they physically cannot be both xD

a system of machines that is load balanced means that , in some way, the inputs are constant and even to feed their needs.
even being 0.0001% off in feed rate means it relies on overflow, which would make it a manifold

[shy mulch]

What if it's a circle 😁

[dense violet]

still no 😛

[ebon marsh]

does anybody have a blueprint for oil factory for mk1 blueprint?

[small notch]

what is the most oil efficient way to make plastic

[upper gale]

Some people interpret it by how it looks visually and others by how it functions

[dense violet]

just make a bp of a single refinery with everyone hooked up

[dense violet]

those people who thing it's purely visual are incredibly wrong

[ebon marsh]

what is a bp?

[dense violet]

blueprint

[ebon marsh]

o

[shy mulch]

Google for recycled plastic loop

[small notch]

#screenshots just made this quickly

[small notch]

as much as i dont want to i will

[cunning siren]

OH apparently there are some "cage like" structures that one can shoot through! Neat

[dense violet]

basically it's

oit > heavy oil residue alt > diluted fuel

mix with residual rubber from the resin over and over

for recycled plastic and recycled rubber

[upper gale]

You could do that complex setup
Or just oil to plastic

[dense violet]

It's a lot more work but you get 450% more output from it

iirc

instead of 3 oil to 2 plastic
3:2 it
3:9 output

[cunning siren]

Can not shoot through ladder or modern railings AND can shoot through industrial ralings 🤔

[shy mulch]

Could just use SF tools to do the calculation and plan it for you 😎

[dense violet]

Actually, it might not even be more work than the basic recipes , since yo uneed 4x as many regular buildings for that

[limpid cairn]

but,but SF tools is old (1.0)

[dense violet]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=m1KJ2eZNbvItmfDQ7IBS

[small notch]

#screenshots just been playing around and i got this

[limpid cairn]

@dense violet its a joke refering that sf tools is still in 1.0 (yes i know nothing changed in recipe wise in 1.1)

[dense violet]

no idea sorry. Modeler is jsut a mess to try to give other people info

[small notch]

would what i made be good setup tho or is there more efficient

[shy mulch]

No recipes change after 1.0 so what difference does it make?

[dense violet]

no idea

[dense violet]

you can compare it to the Tools link

[small notch]

ok

[cunning siren]

Is there no build object that can make "holes" in floors and ceilings that can be shot through?

😭

[dense violet]

move the foundations around and clip the min such a way as there's a hole

it's pretty easy

[spice patio]

Well, the classic conveyer walls have actual holes in them, so those can be shot through.

[dense violet]

not in floors though

[cunning siren]

Yea my "fancy building" skills need practice, I'm very "Spartan" usally

[dense violet]

and can you actually get shot through them? I thought you reverted to upright position as soon as you're launched?

[cunning siren]

I'm using the Star Trek auto door walls for that idea, seems good

Want glass Star Trek auto door walls though 😭

[small notch]

so with my dodgy calculations i can get 550 plastic out of 300 oil

[dense violet]

that's not using the recycled loop properly then

300 oil can do up to 900. If you checked the link

[prime rampart]

Can u find uranium nodes?

[versed mesa]

Does anyone have an idea on what I should put in the sink to earn some coupons ive got no screws in storage something else is taking them for another production

[dense violet]

yes? theres 7 of them I believe.

[cunning siren]

Awww, the automated gate looks cool!

[versed mesa]

Maybe feed the sink some ingots or something

I need 87 more engines and then phase 3 is complete hurray

[barren dove]

When i start a new playthrough i always dump caterium ingots in it as soon as i can. (One of the highest paying sink stuff for the energy and size of build)

Tho a quick google can provide a list what each material gets you.

All depends on how important coupons are for you ^_^

[dense violet]

I think if you turn them to wire that really increases the points

[versed mesa]

Ok cool thank you

[azure scarab]

how do you make mutiple foundations in one line? like my 5 floors in a straight line?

[versed mesa]

Yes

[dense violet]

look under your cursor when you build

there are build modes. pick zoop

many build items have multiple build modes

[versed mesa]

I did not know this thats cool

[barren dove]

Quickwire 17 points per item. Cat ingots 42 per item

[dense violet]

you make a lot more wire from 1 ingot though

[azure scarab]

thx

[barren dove]

And then hand feed the bio burners more often

[dense violet]

oh god, why are you even talking about sinking stuff when you're on bio burners?

sink nothing until you have constant power

[barren dove]

LoL yeah i am. As i said. When starting a new playthrough..

[dense violet]

well you can only complain about pain you're causing yourself

[barren dove]

Whats the fun of that xD daddy needs its concrete foundations

[cunning siren]

Yea I guess if I use 3x framed floors and nudge them I can kind of make like a cage of sorts

[barren dove]

Anyway. Close to finishing my current playthrough.

Wanna start a new one soon before december hits

[cursive phoenix]

How many hrs?

[crude flower]

hi

[barren dove]

@cursive phoenix On this playthrough? Around 500 (shared with 2 people tho they are not as active as i am).

In total 2100 hours (with maybe around 300h idle time in total) since 2021 i believe.

[azure scarab]

how do I open my trains inventory?

[barren dove]

With E on each wagon or station , (unless its docking)

[azure scarab]

so i cant just open it from inside the train, when its not docked or at a statiom?

[barren dove]

Nope

[azure scarab]

son of a bi***

[shy mulch]

The train itself doesn't have an inventory. The inventories belong to each wagon

[dense violet]

get out of the train and click on it

the train doesn't become a giant backpack for you when you're inside

[small notch]

#screenshots figured it out

[azure scarab]

just wanted to put fuel in it.

[steel dome]

how do you look at the photos you take?

[dense violet]

trains run off electricity

[steel dome]

how do you look at the photos you take in photo mode

[azure scarab]

press P then TAB to open setting then Open photo folder.

[steel dome]

cheers

[azure scarab]

smart *** (thanks)

[cursive phoenix]

Daaaamn

[barren dove]

Nice. Didnt notice it.

[boreal musk]

90% train problem ppl had are their train station being backwards

[true mulch]

as of 1.1, 90% of problems are signals tweaking even when they're built correctly

[boreal musk]

yeah

its very annoying how frequent that bug happens

[steel dome]

can you guys help improve my base its in the screenshots channel

[true mulch]

do you want text suggestions or people to join

[steel dome]

text please

[true mulch]

post in #design-and-architecture

[steel dome]

ok

[limpid cairn]

is there a way to name drones?

[steel dome]

ive posted it

[rancid flume]

whats a safe amount of quickwire/m to have early on?

making an ai limiter/quickwire factory, just a smol one

was thinking like 100 quickwire, 15 ai limiters pm?

[shrewd palm]

early on you're really only gonna need quickwire for mk2 powerpoles

[limpid cairn]

15 ai limiters are kinda overkill if you only use them for building

[shrewd palm]

that too

[limpid cairn]

id say 25 or 50 quickwire and like 1-2 ai limiters pm

[shrewd palm]

unless you have alt recipes your only use for caterium stuff is gonna be for building

[rancid flume]

well i got mk2 miners and theres a pure ndoe so i can kinda sendd it

can always do a mk1 i spose

[unkempt blade]

I'd usually just do as much as the node will support if you have power for it. It all sinks for a decent number of points for the effort it takes

[lofty juniper]

Should I finish a part of my mega build or go to sleep

[hard silo]

sleep is for the weak

[latent meadow]

guessing being in the menu doest aculty pause the game

[ember ridge]

OMFG i just completed phase 4....it took forever. i suck at this game....

[true mulch]

how many hours?

[fierce flicker]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/553550313533997057/1418967395778822296/image.png?ex=68d00bde&is=68ceba5e&hm=8041a9d539009b86e1eaa3d65774629b115a20aa1f5a31e92a4d999998839b51& how do i drive this

[true mulch]

no, but you can use the pause console command

[true mulch]

you have to put fuel in in the back

it has an inventory and craft bench too

coal and solid biofuel and readily available in the early game as fuel

[unkempt blade]

yay tractor! a gateway drug to the wonder that is the factory cart

[fierce flicker]

i got that but i recorded a way for it but it just stands still

[unkempt blade]

you might want to take a look at https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Vehicles#Automation if you haven't

[fierce flicker]

oh

[boreal musk]

did you set it to auto pilot?

[true mulch]

exit the vehicle

[latent meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/train-tracks-tracks-collect-get-gromit-gif-11667864

[thick hinge]

Is it just me or is 1.1 a lot buggier than 1.0 when it comes to placement?

[ember ridge]

about 683

[true mulch]

impressive dedication to stay on one save file for that long

[cunning siren]

Whelp, defensive structure built and tested: #screenshots message

[latent meadow]

i notice it also bugged when looking at things

i have my cursor right on a slug and it wont tell me i can pick it up

even though i like 2 feet form it lol

[zenith pecan]

Reminds me of my quick deploy combat shacks.

[unkempt blade]

😆 I do almost the exact opposite of that, I have a BP cage that I can drop on hostiles

[cunning siren]

Yea I made a "Shark Cage" for myself. Great thing is I can shoot out and they can't shoot in 😆

It's Hatcher proof too

[unkempt blade]

the watch tower gets you to like 90% of the way to safe but they can still get angles to shoot you sometimes 🙁

[cunning siren]

If the watch tower was 90% safe I would not need to build this

I abandoned the "watch tower rebuild" idea

This cage thing works to good

[steel dome]

https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/1418969849396334643 can you guys look at my thing on #1201555265942724758 its the text link

[spare crow]

ugh, love spending 2 hours making a nice blueprint that ends up not matching anything i've previously built in the area 😠

i swear some of these screenshots are from people that work at architecture firms or something, how does everything look so coherent

[zenith pecan]

I'm no architect.

[steel dome]

https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/1418969849396334643 can you guys look at my thing on #1201555265942724758 its the text link

[unkempt blade]

oh you mean like #screenshots message ?

frank lloyd wright would be spinning in his grave but he also never made a throwing up rainbows house so he's a hack and a fraud imo

[feral geyser]

Someone responded to me while I was sleeping, how do I jump back to replies?

[steel dome]

can anyone help me with phase 4 i wanted to put up a new post on #1201555265942724758 but didnt realise there is a timer

[cunning siren]

Upper right icon with the red dot on it

[reef basin]

usually it's better to ask specific questions 🙂

[steel dome]

?

[reef basin]

help with phase 4
what exactly do you want to help with?

[feral geyser]

On mobile

[spare crow]

lol, i mean, i'd never have come up with that either so...

[unkempt blade]

use the notifications tab

[cunning siren]

Look for something called inbox?

[steel dome]

@reef basin all the requirments for phase 4 except magnetic field generaters

[feral geyser]

No, someone pinged my in this channel hours ago and I can't find the message in here.

[cunning siren]

Yea, what I'm saying is you can list all pings in inbox

[spice patio]

Then they deleted the message.
Discord is stupid and keeps the ping even then.

Just with no way to read it anymore.

[shy mulch]

There are some wonderful builds, I agree. Mine look pretty amateurish by comparison but I like to mess about and try my best

[feral geyser]

How/ where?

[steel dome]

can anyone help me with phase 4 i wanted to put up a new post on #1201555265942724758 but didnt realise there is a timer ( i need help with all the requirments except magnetic firld generaters)

[feral geyser]

Bro, are you spamming

[steel dome]

no why

[reef basin]

yes you are

[feral geyser]

Same message 5 times

[steel dome]

sorry

[feral geyser]

Like shut the fuck up and be patient

[steel dome]

sorry

[reef basin]

also just wait the timer and post in #1201555265942724758 , or use your previous post

[dense violet]

honestly you can wait days or weeks before anyone suitable joins

[shy mulch]

Ask one specific question, and wait for an answer

[unkempt blade]

yeah and then I'll answer you with something about factory carts as is my nature!

[shy mulch]

What's the best way to transport 16800/min iron ore from rocky desert to grassy plains

[feral geyser]

I found a way, I had to come to this channel > search > filter > "mentions someone" and type my name

That's a shitload

What is that, 14 mk 6 belts?

[shy mulch]

Read the context

[zenith pecan]

Or a colosal train (or several)

[unkempt blade]

hrmm at least 7 factory cart routes but it could very well be more than that since ore has a small stack size

[feral geyser]

"At least 7" 😭

[shy mulch]

He did say maybe more

[unkempt blade]

yeah the absolute bottleneck is going to be 2 mk6 belts per station

but realistically it's probably more because the stack size is so small

if it was like wire or concrete or something you might be closer to that minimum

[feral geyser]

I mean, if the route is just packed with carts, that'd work.

How many carts per route is the real limiter, and you could just make more, yeah? Have a dense route

[unkempt blade]

yeah he's asking about like maybe 1/3 of the way across the map depending on where exactly in those biomes so it's probably a lot of carts per route too

[stiff bane]

Hi ALL i need help with pipes, how do i procced with asking for help

[copper yoke]

Hey there, bug reports where? Should I put it in q&a?

[unkempt blade]

explain what you're trying to do with them/what your problem is

[white dawn]

If you want to post in a place where the developers will see it, the Questions site is the place to go. For player-to-player support, #1038092680493801533 is often best, yeah

Hm, bot not working, I guess?

https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/

[versed mesa]

Ive just completed phase 3 now guys hurray

[stiff bane]

i think i solved it ,, there was back flow , didnt think about that

[copper yoke]

ok ty

[limpid cairn]

nice man, good luck in phase 4, phase 4 is genuinely TORTURE

[stiff bane]

guys quick question ,, but can you run on the new mk6 belts ? i havent gotten them yet, but im so curious

[limpid cairn]

yes you can run on them

[stiff bane]

omg yesssss

[versed mesa]

What comes once phase 4 complete i guess it be mk6 or so

[limpid cairn]

if you have them make a white color and set the white color thingy to 10 and paint the mk6 belt white

its super fun

[limpid cairn]

mk6 belts converters and other stuff

basically "sam" tier

[versed mesa]

Cool does another generator come ?

[limpid cairn]

nuclear power

[shy mulch]

You can look up all this stuff on the wiki

[versed mesa]

Yeah i forgot i like asking you guys keep yous busy lol

And to talk to others

[versed mesa]

Ain't this in this new one since now ive completed phase 3

Brb

[cunning siren]

Happy to find the newer versions of this game runs better than the old on this hardware 🤔. I can "even" enable some quality settings! WOH! 😆

[versed mesa]

All hours ive been playing is really tired me out am tired again right now so going to sleep soon

[limpid cairn]

damn

i didnt realise half of my power plant wasnt connected to the grid

just got 70GW of energy for free

[zenith pecan]

Still runs horribly on my laptop that I use when I'm not at home 🤣 , 4gb of vram fml

[cunning siren]

Laptops, Oooof. Buy ATX standard desktop form factor next time 😝 buying a new video card is much less expensive than a new laptop every time you "want more"

[zenith pecan]

I'm not hauling my desktop around when I'm not home though 😛 , too heavy.

[cunning siren]

Get one with a handle 😆

[clever merlin]

LOL god ada is such a ass

[zenith pecan]

Need a damned trolley for it, besides, would you want to move a £5000 pc every time you visit with friends and family, I wouldn't

Well worth considerably less these days, I built it two and a half years back 😛

[clever merlin]

remember pioneer fics does not take responbility for accdents even if it gentic

[spare crow]

love being stuck on low graphics settings in a hotel, where 50fps is a dream eh

[zenith pecan]

I'll eventually just get another laptop, but tbh that'll come after I update my desktop build 🙂

More ram, better (non-intel) cpu and fatter gpu 😄

[spare crow]

I need to get a new SSD for desktop, just built a new PC in jan and it's corrupted again after the 3rd reinstall this year

stupid

[versed mesa]

Who here has a separate oil storage depot ?

Ive still not yet figured out how to to continuously keep fuel gens going with fuel lol

[rigid glen]

Why?

[frail sleet]

could be CPU or RAM instability also

[rigid glen]

Are you using regular fuel?

[zenith pecan]

Er, not windows 11 and phison controller on the ssd I hope.

[cunning siren]

1,200 per min WOH wut! I recall MK6 being 1k?

[versed mesa]

Am still using some biomass gens to help with powering something that I want producing

[versed mesa]

I think am stupid

[rigid glen]

LOL No, you're just not following the math

For regular fuel, one 300pm pipe flows into 5 refineries, which makes enough fuel to feed 10 generators

the thing to remember for stability is to split the pipe with rthe fuel in half, so each half feeds 5 machines

[versed mesa]

I just think am now d9ing it correctly

[versed mesa]

So true

[clever merlin]

I ca not find SAM to save my life

[versed mesa]

Are you on grass land ?

[rigid glen]

Assuming there is no height issues, it will stay balanced once it reaches that point

[zenith pecan]

Here it is #design-and-architecture message

[clever merlin]

no i on the water one i think

that not wat i saying tarmonai

lol

smartass :p

tbh it all one map in the end just where your staying i in the water area

no man land maybe

not sure if that helps

[versed mesa]

@rigid glen its mainly how am doing its with refiners so I wanted to produce polymer so that comes with fuel needing to extract out to keep the production going for abit so I choosed to pachaged the fuel and help power the gens but when production stopped then no fuel so ive not worked out how to keep fuel running without producing polymer because ive got around 8 storage units full of it the twin ones

Recently I had came across water deposit just randomly

@clever merlin factory 2 is at water area

Where oil is at

[shy mulch]

What on earth are you doing 😂
Do you have a diagram showing the entire structure from oil to fuel, how you've got it set up

[mortal ginkgo]

use awesome sink with a smart splitter

send overflowing polymer to sink so fuel keeps running

[versed mesa]

That can work also damn

Thanks

[versed mesa]

No diagram only my head lmfao

[mortal ginkgo]

thats their main purpose in such cases unless you are using 100% of byproduct which is a pain of its own to constantly keep track of. Just let em sink as it is too risky to plan it 100% properly since power can go down completely

[versed mesa]

Have you planned it ?

[mortal ginkgo]

Nope. Anything that a storage cant hold always goes to a sink with overflow option. Especially if it is a fuel matter.

Sinks also only cost power if they are working so its fine to spam them around where needed.

[versed mesa]

Hey thanks alot ill do that then

Will help with coupons also so its a win win

@mortal ginkgo what's funny is coal generators ive been able to keep it going infinite

[mortal ginkgo]

Yep. it isnt exactly a waste to sink them. like everything else oil is infinite and you get coupons as you said.

[mortal ginkgo]

coals got no byproduct stuff so its cool

[versed mesa]

Yeah

[odd crescent]

I havent played since the 1.0 came out and I'm looking to start a new world, whats the best starting location?

[mortal ginkgo]

rocky desert imho

dune if you like space

[versed mesa]

Idk i like my grass land location

[odd crescent]

grasslands is pretty beautiful but from what I remember its a pretty horrible start because of node purities

[versed mesa]

And also ocean area is nice

[odd crescent]

thats where I ran my first ever save

[versed mesa]

Where

[odd crescent]

grasslands

[versed mesa]

Damn lol

[rigid glen]

Grass is only a bad start for experienced player, I think it's greast for new players

I still start there, I know I can go anywhere afterwards

[versed mesa]

Really well perfect fir me then lmfao

[rigid glen]

It's a nice flat place to learn the craft

[versed mesa]

Exactly i agree

[unkempt blade]

yeah I think at the very start the low-purity veins are a mild trap for inexperienced players

[latent meadow]

tbh i though the water area

[unkempt blade]

people will get past it but it's a power sink when you're running on biomass only

[latent meadow]

was a lot better for building and learning then grass area myself

[versed mesa]

Facts

[odd crescent]

my first playthrough I had built all my factories there running off those nodes and was not happy when i realized how important purities were

[cunning siren]

Now that I've got my panic room #screenshots message I may do a northern forest start 🤔

[unkempt blade]

now that's still my favorite starting spot

[versed mesa]

But even though you had set up there you could of went else where and did big setup there also

[odd crescent]

yeah totally its a great learning place but if you wanna scale up you basically have to abandon everything

[unkempt blade]

ehhh you don't have to abandon everything there's really just a mild power efficiency difference

[odd crescent]

i ended up moving to the rocky desert to make rotors stators and plates right after

[unkempt blade]

which is why I think it's only a trap at the very start

[odd crescent]

yeah

[versed mesa]

Yeah am not saying abandon you can have multiple locations

[odd crescent]

i put myself wayyyy top deep into the impure resources at the time

[cunning siren]

5x pure iron 2.5x pure copper 2.5x pure limestone 4x normal coal... pretty good

[true cape]

yall i have a question

[regal lantern]

We may have serious answers to your question

[true cape]

that is the temp purity

[versed mesa]

Lol

[true cape]

how much do i get per minute

[mortal ginkgo]

i once went to a place full of pure iron nodes but only had one impure copper. I thought it was gonna be fiiiiiiine.

It wasnt brothermen. It wasnt.

Oh Lord have mercy for I was such a FOOL! 😭

[regal lantern]

Temp purity?

[versed mesa]

Lmfao

[true cape]

how do i send images here

[zenith pecan]

Import more copper!

[regal lantern]

You don't; screenshots go in screenshots though

[true cape]

sending it to the strems and vids chanel

[mortal ginkgo]

i think you meant "what" and not "that".

Temp purity means there are bunch of nodes too close together that it doesnt show their values. It is a bug some claim but you never know.

[unkempt blade]

Yeah the only real downside is needing to deal with the cliff relatively early in the game. It was even better before they moved some nodes around

[regal lantern]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Miner This should tell you how much per minute you'll get from things

[opaque shadow]

Retaliate mode: I notice that the only mob that retaliates is the hatcher, is it a bug or intended

[true cape]

k ty

[cunning siren]

I may go NW from spawn, a bit more open and good node coverage

[mortal ginkgo]

My FOOLISHNESS hurt my soul so much that I restarted. Now I am happy with 3 normal copper nodes right beside me brotherman. 👍

[shy mulch]

I'm sure we can help you sort it out reliably if you can explain exactly what you've got set up

[zenith pecan]

Ouch!

[mortal ginkgo]

fear not I am happy

[unkempt blade]

there's a good spot kind of SE from where it spawns you but it's a bit further from coal that going NW from spawn

[versed mesa]

Where is am for oil across the way on an island the have multiple different oil deposits right next to one and another so that game me an idea to build oil storage depot

[spare crow]

no idea at the moment, something I have to look at when I get back home. fingers crossed

[mortal ginkgo]

You aim to explore and exploit. You are playing the game in the most correct way possible.

Yolo.

[versed mesa]

Well i can still try to explain but this person game me the idea to sink and then I'd keep getting fuel witch would really help and now ill explain my set up

[zenith pecan]

It should be unlikely, but under very specific circumstances, an ssd with a phison controller disappeared from the system that can cause some chaos, it really shouldn't be the case, alas I have seen two such cases amidst friends and family.

[versed mesa]

Exactly

[cunning siren]

Oh yea... I've done all the starts cept the noob one and Northern Forest so 🤷

[rigid mist]

after 10 hours of waiting my leached copper is finally at 100% efficacy

[mortal ginkgo]

I wouldnt call that one noob as it needs you to make long distance import systems across

Oh God, someone using leached copper.

Lord have mercy!

For he is MAD.

[rigid mist]

it's for 4000 copper ingots per minute i don't want to have to use any less efficient recipes

[versed mesa]

@shy mulch soo at first ive built 8 fuel gens all hooked up with pipes one left side i have 4 big fluid buffer and on the right I have multiple energy storage units set up ect then I explain refiners

[spare crow]

everything just gets super crashy, and 30-40% if the time the system just blue screens on NTFS.sys. I thought ram at first but multiple memtest runs seemed fine

[mortal ginkgo]

pure ingots got better ratio jfyi

[rigid mist]

no

[hard ivy]

Pure copper is more efficient tho

[shy mulch]

Ur thinking in the wrong direction, start with the oilnd explain from there

[mortal ginkgo]

aright

[rigid mist]

oh shit it is

by .341

[zenith pecan]

Keep in mind the specific situation I raise is with recent windows 11 update and phisons controllers on some ssds.

[mortal ginkgo]

kek.

[spice patio]

Only if you consider the water to be free.

[rigid mist]

it isn't for me i'm in a desertr

[versed mesa]

@shy mulch to start small I built 3 refiners side by side buy with spaces in between them

[zenith pecan]

Neither microsoft nor phison are owning up to the issue and I'm not seeing much in the way of fixes, in my brothers case, he just bought a different ssd and the crashing and drive disappearences went away.

[spare crow]

also not sure what that pc is updated to, it'll suck if I have to replace the entire CPU/MB/ram to end up finding out

[shy mulch]

What recipe

[mortal ginkgo]

it is still a much faster recipe so you need less buildings but still using valueable sulfur so. It is a meh setup.

Imho devs just forgot to edit the recipe for 1.0 . That recipe should be vastly superior since it asks for sulfur.

[spare crow]

ssd is easiest first, probably look for a fully different brand

[rigid mist]

this

[spice patio]

At least some of the cases are from overheating drives.
And some are from drives released to marked with preproduction firmware for some reason or other.

[zenith pecan]

Look your existing one up first, if its controller is not phison, then the problem I mentioned will absolutely NOT be the case.

[zenith pecan]

Good to know.

[spice patio]

And the original post wasn't Phison specific.
Lot of other manufacturers controllers doing the same thing.

That is is "Phison only" is broken phone thing.

[hard ivy]

By 2.3%. or 0.055 ingots per ore. Or 0.0091 ore per ingot. idk where you got 0.341 from

[zenith pecan]

I seem to be lucky in that regard.

[spare crow]

yeah, it's a Samsung 990 pro so it's their own ctl, that doesn't mean the thing hasn't gone to shit on its own though

[rigid mist]

15:37.5 compared to 15.341:37.5 (pure to leached)

[spice patio]

And the JayzTwoCents Phison E25 issue was actually from using reviewer only MB BIOS/firmware with known issues from 2024.

[versed mesa]

@shy mulch well I wanted to produce plastic and polymer so I did that I built way over 25 storage tein units to have each one of each product but ive got pachaged fuel because I needed fuel to help run the gens but now I need it to run always

[zenith pecan]

Yeah I just looked it up, shouldn't be the issue, though I cannot explain your crashes 🙁

[spare crow]

might as well get a decent nvme heat sink package while I'm at it, can't hurt

can't remember now if it has one

[fierce flicker]

should i start a new world?
cause i didnt get far my energy sources suck
and my area does 2

[hard ivy]

They're usually a waste of money. Unless your MB doesn't have one and the drive is gonna be right under the GPU

[zenith pecan]

My system drive is pretty old, gen3 🤣 , the last of the mlc drives out of samsung before they decided endurance didn't need to be a thing but prices still went up.

[spice patio]

Are you sure your CPU or RAM isn't unstable instead?

[versed mesa]

@shy mulch plastic and oachaged heavy oil is a goid one to have and ill use them most of the time anyways so the units can go down gradually

[shy mulch]

Sounds like that'll all work fine, u just need to do the maths right

[mortal ginkgo]

if you started at dune desert, sure. Other places should have plenty of wood and grass tho.

[spare crow]

it's directly above it, so, physics n all

[zenith pecan]

Out of curiosity, what is the cpu? (please not intel 13th/14th)

[spare crow]

did a bunch of memtest86 runs, no errors, I didn't really get around to much CPU testing before I had to just switch to my laptop to start getting work done due to the instability

[versed mesa]

@shy mulch so I was just told to keep sinking polymer and then fuel will be infinite

[hard ivy]

And your MB doesn't have a built-in heatsink? That's almost always enough. Just a hunk of metal to soak up some heat quickly and then dissipate it slowly when the drive is idle

[spice patio]

Which isn't be-all, end-all test.
So you have general stability issues.
First, disable XMP/EXPO/DOCP and let RAM run on all-auto.
And remove any manual CPU tune, including Curve Optimizer etc.

[spare crow]

i9 14900kf :/

[spice patio]

So update MB BIOS if you haven't.

[fierce flicker]

no but like im at phase 2 of the elevator and i needed to rebuild my factory cause it sucks but i cant do a proper rebuild cause i only have one coal vein for 3 machines

[spice patio]

About 50% of those are unstable at older BIOS versions.

[hard ivy]

RIP

[fierce flicker]

its okay

just update the bios

lma

[hard ivy]

A bios update doesn't undo the damage tho

[fierce flicker]

oh no! anyways

[spice patio]

If there is damage.
The underclocking done by older BIOSes helped a lot against that.

[spare crow]

i never do anything tuning wise, I just want stuff to work so I dont even bother

[shy mulch]

Yeah can do that. Or use the resin for something else

[zenith pecan]

🙁

[spice patio]

But there is known issue with Intel 13th and 14th gen systems.
Need BIOS update from this year to fix.
Without that, about 50% of 14900K(F)s are unstable.

[spare crow]

lovely

[spice patio]

Three things Intel fucked up (first by not limiting what MB makers were doing like AMD is):
MBs undervolting CPUs by default (straight up unstable CPUs without damage at stock).
eTVB activating when it shouldn't have (damage).
CPU making too high VID requests (damage).

Mostly fixed on the BIOSes with that 0x129 microcode at stock.
And BIOSes with microcode 0x12B to fix last cases of that third point.
But any already accumulated damage is permanent, and will continue to degrade at faster rate than normal would have been.
With Intel seems now trying to bandaid the CPUs with permanent damaga over the warranty windows with new microcode 0x12F?
https://community.intel.com/t5/Processors/Microcode-0x129-Update-for-Intel-Core-13th-and-14th-Gen-Desktop/td-p/1622129
https://community.intel.com/t5/Blogs/Tech-Innovation/Client/Intel-Core-13th-and-14th-Gen-Desktop-Instability-Root-Cause/post/1633239
https://community.intel.com/t5/Processors/Intel-Core-13th-and-14th-Gen-Vmin-Shift-Instabilty-Update-New/m-p/1686948

[versed mesa]

Yeah well for niw ive git storage units full of it so sinking is best idea ive heard yet lol

[zenith pecan]

Problem is, if they are unstable already, then the damage was done already and the bios fix wouldn't help that chip, but would work for its replacement.

[spice patio]

That first point is the most common cause for instability with those.

[shy mulch]

There's really not any good reason to store it

[spice patio]

The damage ones still come far behind.

[zenith pecan]

Lets just say my next build is so AMD!

[spare crow]

I mean at the very least, power wise I do feel like I fucked up getting a KF, the GPU always running makes it use more power than I wish it did at idle

[versed mesa]

@shy mulch so I'd just run conveyor from refiner straight to sink

[mortal ginkgo]

yolo to another coal gen deposit place or make a smol oil production setup to kick start fuel gens.

[zenith pecan]

Have you stressed your .. oh wait you mentioned your entire OS got nuked three times 🙁 ..

[versed mesa]

Why wouldnt you store it lol

[hard ivy]

Why would you?

[versed mesa]

Lmfao

[shy mulch]

There's no reason to

[limpid cairn]

Are there specific drone paths in the game ?

[versed mesa]

Goid question well i thought it be needed lol

@shy mulch @hard ivy am just stupid dumb I guess

[hard ivy]

So is mine. I mean I already have an AMD CPU, but I'm prolly getting an AMD GPU too next time I upgrade. Unless the next gen ends up being garbage

[hard ivy]

Resin is not used for building anything. You can turn it into something useful and store that but storing the resin itself is pretty pointless

[zenith pecan]

My current machine is a hugely overclocked 12900k, it's survived nicely since its release, that's why I was shocked & disgusted that intel stuffed up the 13th and 14th afterwards.

[spice patio]

And has intentionally done everything they can to keep those issues out of general news media.

[spare crow]

yeah, the funny thing about all this is that when I picked satisfactory back up after a while of not playing is when all this started. i do a fair bit of audio work but, then I clocked 90 hours in a week running ultra gfx settings at 4k, and shit started going sideways

[spice patio]

So people affected don't even know there is an issue.

[versed mesa]

Thanks for that well its can be turned into plastic

[spare crow]

maybe not 90 but, more gaming than id done on the machine since I put it together

[zenith pecan]

I hate to say it, but tbh you probably want an am5 board, a reasonable x3d chip and reinstall the os again 🙁 🙁

[hard ivy]

Or update the BIOS and get an RMA from intel? (No clue if they still accept them tho)

[shy mulch]

The only things you ever need to store are stuff you use for construction

[spice patio]

First: Update MB BIOS and see if there still are issues or not.
And CPU warranties were extended to 5 years.

[versed mesa]

Like plastic

[zenith pecan]

In its current form, I would trust intel rna about as far as I can throw my home town.

[spare crow]

I mean given how Intel is going these days as long as it's a reasonable price I'd be fine with moving to AMD as long as my audio DSP cards have no compatibility issues

[versed mesa]

@shy mulch but also pachage heavy oil is great for fueling transport

[spare crow]

which is the only reason I've stuck to Intel for years, there were issues in the past there

[zenith pecan]

It all depends on, as you said compatibility (shouldn't be an issue) trust, your financial position etc.

[hard ivy]

I mean a bios update and an RMA are free. A new board and CPU is a few hundred bucks. Depends how much you value not having downtime due to the RMA

[spare crow]

I mean, financially I need a decent gfx capable pc for work so, sucks but at least it's a write off

[zenith pecan]

Right now I'm more likely to be able to throw Nottingham clear across the horizon than trust Intel.

[rigid mist]

my factory cart apparently gained infinite velocity and yeeted itself into the corner of the map

[zenith pecan]

Back in a bit, I have to do the good old tech support for family 🤦‍♂️

[rigid mist]

i can't even delete it

that's why you don't put them in elevators ig

[tawny jackal]

hey does anybody have some starter oil blueprints to share?

i cant seem to find on satisfacory calculator

[somber sigil]

please someone ive put pumps everywhere on my oil pipes but idk why it doest go trhoughhh

[hard ivy]

putting pumps where they don't need to be usually makes things worse, not better

[tawny jackal]

can somone tell me more sites for blueprints?

[somber sigil]

...so if i remove pumps it will go trough whats the logic its pure nonsens

[tawny jackal]

?

[hard ivy]

make your own 🤷‍♂️

[cunning siren]

^

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0 <--- this can help with ratios

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/images/3/39/Pipeline_Manual.pdf <--- liquid manual

[tawny jackal]

thats what the last guy told me

but just askin bc i wana save time

[cursive phoenix]

At work,
Could be playing satisfactory rn😞

[tawny jackal]

so nobody has any?

or could somebody join and help?

[limpid cairn]

So you’re not at work

[limpid cairn]

Iirc it’s hard and not good to share bps

[tawny jackal]

why is it not good?

[limpid cairn]

Apparently it’s weird to handle for the game engine

I heard someone say they had frame issues after importing a bp

[tawny jackal]

i guess

wana come and help a bit bc all my friends are ofline

[limpid cairn]

It’s best for you to figure out own stuff

[tawny jackal]

it the seccond time im doing it because its the seccond world

[analog venture]

I made a MASSIVE recycled plastic and rubber setup in an old save of the game, is there any way to copy that into a new save?

[rigid mist]

it genuinely pisses me off that i have to build 3 sets of 23 assemblers for optimal production

[hard ivy]

that's not even that many lol

[rigid mist]

no. how many do i need in total

i have to make 69 assemblers unironically

[limpid cairn]

Overclock

[frail sleet]

i have 745 on powerplant

[rigid mist]

i'll do 72 assemblers and 6 will be halfed

[upper gale]

This what happens when you maximize everything

[arctic galleon]

heya just wondering if theres a way to connect 2 storage containers to a constructor and make it so that one item goes into storage container 1, another one goes into storage container 2

[upper gale]

Smart splitter will do that

Unlock it in one of the milestones, forgot which one but it's early

[hard ivy]

it's in the MAM

caterium tree iirc

[upper gale]

Ah

Yeah the mam

[feral geyser]

Smart/programmable splitter is in Cat tree, but priority merger is in Quartz tree 😒

I get it, it takes an oscillator to make, but come on now.

[rigid mist]

SJS
i accidentally did 90 assemblers not 70

[honest ridge]

anyone know why my hotbar keys just stopped working?

[rigid mist]

reload save

[limpid cairn]

tree ?

[bronze oriole]

pipes on servers are a nightmare if some1 decides that mk ain´t enough and upgrades them to clean mk 2 pipes

just spend an hour checking 2k pipe segments to see if they are working or if the game removed connections between them

[bronze oriole]

Caterium

[frail sleet]

bug, maybe triggered by blueprint machine, save and reload

[limpid cairn]

Why would you downgrade to clean pipes?

[bronze oriole]

i didn´t

i just had to check all the pipes so my fused modular frame production runs again

he also merged 1.8 k nitrogen gas into 1 pipe and tried splitting it back into 3

because it didn´t look nice before

[shy mulch]

This is why I only play solo. Couldn't deal with people who don't think things through at all

[bronze oriole]

i mean we are in phase 4 and all he did so far is upgrade my pipes and handcraft things i already automated

building factories is overrated

i made like 15 bp so he could automate most things and instead he just handcrafts things

150+

[frail sleet]

average satisfactory player

[merry talon]

Hey does anyone know if I EOS link my account on steam and epic do I still have the early access stuff or does it dissapear if I link it with an account that didn't have the game before early access?

[upper gale]

He seems to enjoy hand crafting

Build him a bunch of crafting benches

[honest ridge]

when i try to add a powerpole to a cable it just says invalid aim location?

[coral sundial]

I’m at a loss on how to setup my iron factory

Should I have one mk3 belt smelt and make rods and another make plates?

And then go from there?

[bronze oriole]

Depends on what you want to produce

[coral sundial]

Or should I have a factory that creates like modular frames right from one belt

See that’s the problem idk what I wanna make I’m trying to get done with phase 2 of space elevator

[hard ivy]

figure out what you want and go from there

trying to max out nodes/belts is usually a poor strategy

[coral sundial]

How come

[hard ivy]

you often end up with way too much or way too little

[coral sundial]

So rn I have one factory floor making 12 modular frames a minute

I guess that’s good right

[hard ivy]

for personal use, sure

[coral sundial]

I see

[hard ivy]

how is this satisfactory related?

[leaden turret]

<@&387163995947270144> rando link

[rigid mist]

good thing i checked 12 of my assemblers makes 960 quickwire

rando never even played this game

[lament niche]

https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/post/68cd80509709d65f190abd85

[rancid flume]

now that steel and quickwire/ai limiters are done i need to start fuel generator power and oil products :} plan for next time, 15GW fuel gens, an amount of plastic/rubber, and theres a spare impure node around all of this that i think imma use to make packaged fuel. mayhaps

[rigid mist]

??

also turbolifts when?

[leaden turret]

@obsidian zodiac Star Trek skinpack DLC, when?

[lament niche]

never

[rigid mist]

no i mean like multidirectional elevators that can go between stops with the floor panel in the current elevators. Basically hypertubes with the benefit of not needing to spam E to get where you're going, and you don't have to remember a metro's worth of directions. Also downside of slower

[leaden turret]

• replace crash sites with shuttlepods
• replace portal with guardian of forever
• starfleet uniform Pioneer skins
• replace hypertubes with jefferies tubes

[lament niche]

you ain't convincing me at all, trekkie

[rigid mist]

and the janeway coffee (i think it's called raktajino) instead of ficsit mug

[lament niche]

ew

[real wolf]

im getting massive lag spikes when i place down conveyors

[rigid mist]

that's normal

[leaden turret]

ADA: there's nebula in that coffee

[rigid mist]

lmao

[leaden turret]

• replace with phaser
• replace with phaser rifle

[real wolf]

no like my fps drops from 100+ to 5

[rigid mist]

mine pauses for a solid seconds

[leaden turret]

is your CPU potato?

[real wolf]

no, my specs are 3060ti + ryzen 5 5600 and im running ultra 1440p but i have never had this issue before

[leaden turret]

🤷‍♂️ check #1038092680493801533 for similar issues/setups ?

[rigid mist]

i think it's just that it needs to recompute a lot of pathways if the belt system is long

[real wolf]

its nvidia drivers

"nvidia container" was taking up all my gpu and cpu power, caused by outdated drivers

[limpid cairn]

are you building something when it drops to 5 fps?

[real wolf]

yes

[limpid cairn]

are you sure its not refineries killling your fps?

[real wolf]

i have 20 on my save total

its cause i havent updated my drivers since march

[rigid mist]

6326/9576 quickwire/m

[hard ivy]

well, with nvidia drivers, it's best to wait a few days/weeks after release to make sure they aren't too buggy

[limpid cairn]

HOW

i have like 700 and every one of them is at 200%+

[real wolf]

i maybe have waited months, by acident

[leaden turret]

drivers turned your cpu into potato

[real wolf]

Im working on a computer factory atm 😭

i dont have the need for refineries atm

[limpid cairn]

theres always needs for a refinery...

[hard ivy]

computers can use plenty of refineries

[real wolf]

im making a crystal computer factory

25 per min

[wispy echo]

Is there a way to click one button to disable all the raw material converter recipes on satsifactorytools.com? Cuz it gets really annoying when I have to manually go through and disable all of them every time I want to set up a production line

[hard ivy]

disable SAM or the converter. if you actually need them for something, the best advice is to search for (, because that displays all resource conversion recipes and not much else

[somber sigil]

i dont understand a thing to pipes ive read the 18pages manual but still nothing am i supposed to put the pump on top of the hill and or both lower parts

[wispy echo]

Oh wow, I didn't realize there was a Machines tab, ty

[limpid cairn]

type ( into the searchbar

and disabled everything from ther

ah kyo already said it

[honest ridge]

is there a way to locate your dogs? one of mine has a nuke nobelisk that i want back

[wispy echo]

I've been doing that, but it's still a good dozen or so recipes to disable one at a time. I like the idea of disabling the Converter much more, I rarely use a calculator for things when I'm that far in 😄

[somber sigil]

please someone help me im litteraly crashing out

[wispy echo]

Mostly because I just make a single building and fully overclock it, then just set up whatever that building needs

[wispy echo]

Liquids only go upwards a certain distance, and if you want them to go higher than about 10 meters or so, you'll need to put pipeline pumps in to give them more "head lift", which is the distance the liquid will go up

Ideally your factory is at a lower elevation than your fluid producer, but with water that's rarely the case

[somber sigil]

my oil is 2000m away so all the hills go right but for some reason the last hill doesnt go trhough with pumps every where faw pumps or no pumps nothing goes through but there oil before

[wispy echo]

When you're holding a ghost of a pump on a pipe, it'll show you how far that pump's head lift will reach

Are all your pumps connected to power?

[somber sigil]

yes

[wispy echo]

Also it might be easier to have the pipe go up really far right at the oil extractor, then build foundations to get it to where you want

If all your pumps are plugged in and facing the correct direction and you're still not getting flow, it's likely that you have a pump too far from the last pump

[hard ivy]

I feel like something like this should be easy to troubleshoot. you look at the extractor to see if it's extracting, and if it stops, you go along the pipe and see where flow stopped and fix things there

[somber sigil]

thats what im doing all the previous hills work fine but for some reason the last one doesnt

[wispy echo]

Find the first pipe section that doesn't have oil, and the pump right before that section is the problematic pump

[somber sigil]

also one of the pipes worked and then suddently nothing got trhough and i touched nothing

[violet delta]

how can i find locations ofhard drives using the radio tower?

[wispy echo]

iirc the only way to find hard drives is with the handheld scanner, the radio tower only reveals the map and resource nodes

[hard ivy]

that's the neat part! you don't.

[violet delta]

🙁

[hard ivy]

sometimes momentum can carry fluid higher than head lift can, resulting in a setup that works for a while and then breaks. or works but doesn't transfer at full speed. always make sure the head lift on any pump is not exceeded

[somber sigil]

ive put pupm at random places and now it works idk why ( futur nuclear engeneer btw)

[hard ivy]

you put the first pump immediately after the extractor and the add another whenever the previous one says more than 20/50m

not randomly

[limpid cairn]

isnt there also an visual indicator

[jaunty jewel]

you probably (really should) just make your petrochemical stuff at the source rather than transporting it that far

[limpid cairn]

i believe irl fluids are different than ingame fluids

also there shouldnt be much fluids in pipes in nuclear powerplants no?

[jaunty jewel]

i mean, water

[limpid cairn]

isnt water just in the cooling tower

[jaunty jewel]

idk im not a nuclear physicist

[limpid cairn]

@somber sigil

[marsh garnet]

hey fellas working on upgrading my rubbers and plastics

[limpid cairn]

are you planning to use th HOR for something else?

[alpine tide]

Des français par ici ? ^^'

[limpid cairn]

je ne par parl francais

[marsh garnet]

well i technically use a portion for my bombs i think, but it has a buffer and that factory is mostly dead unless i need it

i was thinking of doing the recycled loop

but i don't have blenders yet

so packager hell

[hard ivy]

a) that's at 110%, not 100% (pumps technically go to 110% but I don't trust it)
b) it doesn't show up if the previous pump is too far away horizontally

[limpid cairn]

its not that difficult

just make sure to have 1 container half way full with packages

[marsh garnet]

i used em for my turbofuel setup

[hard ivy]

nuke plants have like 3 water cooling loops

[analog venture]

IRL liquid metals and salts may also be used, especially for breeder reactors

[unkempt blade]

it's actually pretty easy with a blueprint and the blueprint can be saved with an appropriate amount of packages already included

[marsh garnet]

my refineries don't fit into the blueprints

i have no idea how many computers i should make

[unkempt blade]

they should fit inside the 3x3x3 unless something changed very recently

[marsh garnet]

i was like super sure they didn't fit wtf, so much wasted time man...

[unkempt blade]

this BP isn't packaged fuel, but does include a couple refineries #screenshots message

[marsh garnet]

maybe when i did it it was because i was in the base and it clipped somehow

idk

[torn junco]

Is there a working satisfsctoryPlus calculator?

[marsh garnet]

you know what i am gonna take it easy for now, factories are gonna get rebuilt, 200 rubber should hopefully do it for computers now

i hope

[hard ivy]

mk2 bp fits 4 refineries side by side

[marsh garnet]

i don't have mk2

yet

[hard ivy]

Modeler or Optimizer if you're willing to to input the recipes yourself

[marsh garnet]

making computers for it

[hard ivy]

I always get it before working with refineries

[marsh garnet]

i can make 24 high speed connectors and 33 computers with 200 rubber, i figure that's good enough right?

[honest ridge]

is it worth automating space elevator parts or just make a production line that u can chuck the parts into

[hard ivy]

for personal use? way too much probably

[hard ivy]

I never fully automate any of them. handfeed everyting I can

[marsh garnet]

you know how it is gotta find the fun in it at that point automate all you got

[unkempt blade]

automate them and leave it running, you can sink the ones you don't need for a lot of coupons

[desert bridge]

given all the new items from 1.0, is it even possible to fit a max power build in the world?

[reef basin]

wdym "fit"?

space never was the issue

[hard ivy]

I mean it's 15/19 TW, but it looks completely possible. just takes a long time

[desert bridge]

is the calc i was looking at just wrong? it shows it was only like 5.3

[hard ivy]

It might've been that before 1.0, idk

it's way more now thanks to sloops

[reef basin]

which one are you looking at?

[desert bridge]

idk if links are allowed here but, https://satisfactory-logistics.xyz/factories/5521f2cd-a855-473f-95b5-a54afae0781f/calculator

[reef basin]

idk, that takes me to 20 concrete/min factory

[desert bridge]

ah might be a cookie thing in browser

but that one making plut rods shows 6.06

[hard ivy]

it has a share button that afaik works

you're probably forgetting about augmenters

[desert bridge]

well i put all the sloops into the x4 on the plut rods, would it be better for augs?

[hard ivy]

well, the max is 15 TW waste-free and 19 TW if you accept storing plutonium waste

and they use 8/9 matrixed augmenters

15 is with 9, 19 is with 8

[limpid cairn]

@unkempt blade can factory carts actually transport stuff?

[hard ivy]

they can be automated like tractors/trucks, and have 1 slot

[limpid cairn]

time to transport uranium with it...

[hard ivy]

and they don't need fuel to run

[unkempt blade]

yeah they get one stack per cart

[solar hamlet]

Whats a good number for first reinforced plate factory?
also cant decide whether to include rotors into it 😄

[fresh copper]

whats the satisfactory flowchart tool ppl usually use

[hard ivy]

10-30/min ig

[hard ivy]

satisfactory tools

[limpid cairn]

depends what phase / tier you are in

[fresh copper]

my starter ref. plate factory only did 7/min, i let it tricklle for a while

[solar hamlet]

PHase 0... but will be unlocking phase one with items ive found around 😄

[shy mulch]

Just thinking, is there a trick where you could just have a massive army of drones moving stuff back and forth to use up plutonium rods, could that avoid waste?

[hard ivy]

the waste build burns the Pu Rods for power, so no

[shy mulch]

Ahh of course. Oh well

[honest ridge]

whats the base burn speed on coal gens?

[hard ivy]

but the waste-free build sinks 27 Pu Rods/min, so that could absolutely be used for drones.

the 19 TW build, on the other hand, doesn't have any resources left to fuel drones with 😂

[shy mulch]

Yeah fair. I just use rocket fuel for my drones I couldn't remember what part of the nuclear path was usable for them

[covert lintel]

I found a bug

Where do i report it? I took a video

[hard ivy]

uranium and plutonium rods. for some reason not ficsonium

[covert lintel]

#off-topic-media message

[hard ivy]

the bot's still broken?

[hard ivy]

https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/

[covert lintel]

The bug is pretty weird

[shy mulch]

Yea

[hard ivy]

couldn't be bothered to use a screen recorder for a bug report? really?

[covert lintel]

I dont see a report option

[hard ivy]

you just make a post there with the bug tag

[covert lintel]

No cuz then the file goes bigger than discord's size limits

[shy mulch]

I don't understand what the bug is. I see a truck moving forward a bit then stopping?

[covert lintel]

How do i post the video

[covert lintel]

Look through the smoke

And then when the smoke is gone

[hard ivy]

post it to imgur as a gif or something and then link it in the report

[covert lintel]

Can i post the dc server link to the video?

[covert lintel]

This link

[hard ivy]

idk how linking to discord works but if it shows the video when clicked then it's whatever

[covert lintel]

Well it redirects to the video in the chat if you are in that server where the link is from

[torn token]

Is there a way to get more energy fragments from the snails or something?

[hard ivy]

sloop the constructor making them. then you get double

[shy mulch]

Aha I see. Seems like the smoke is interfering with fog

[torn token]

what does that mean

[hard ivy]

unlock production aplification in the MAM

[torn token]

overclock?

[hard ivy]

no, production amplification

[torn token]

cannot find

[hard ivy]

alien technology tree

[cunning siren]

Smashing glowy slugs and dumping their slimy goodness into a canister 🤔 this is fine right?

[torn token]

i see

[shy mulch]

I like smashing slugs

[hard ivy]

ayo?

[steel dome]

I have automated automatic field generaters and assembly director systems produced but i need help with the others can anyone join

im on phase 4

[covert lintel]

What kind of smashing?

[reef basin]

#1201555265942724758

[steel dome]

i have its been 6 hours

[shy mulch]

With a hammer

[shy mulch]

Wait a few weeks

[steel dome]

ok

[cunning siren]

Rebuilding schematics from a year ago 🤷 ooof

[reef basin]

still, that channel is for those messages

[steel dome]

oh

ok

i wont do it again

[mellow elm]

I thought I was going to take the time to make a dedicated factory to make teleporters my new method of travel between factories.

Yeah. No. Jesus christ. 2/pm for each teleporter?

Does anyone use these things? HT canons are so much more efficient, cheap, and easy.

[steel dome]

2/pm?

sorry i havent unlocked teleporters

[hard ivy]

2 per picometer would be quite a lot

[mellow elm]

singularity cells per minute

[steel dome]

still dont know what they are lol

[mellow elm]

very end game component.

[hard ivy]

2 * 10^15 cells per kilometer

[steel dome]

oh damn

just stick with ht cannons

[mellow elm]

If you know what nuclear pasta is, those are sub components for singularity cells.

[steel dome]

ohhhhhh

thats expensive

and its a sub

[mellow elm]

The other sub components aren't bad. But yeah, the pasta cost sucks.

2 pasta per minute for a good enough supply to run 5 teleporters.

[hard ivy]

shouldn't it be 10?

[unborn cosmos]

i just got the game, how do i fix the ridiculous lag every 10 seconds? the game is unplayable

[mellow elm]

10 ?

[shy mulch]

I use them, currently got 18 of them running, with plans to grow that to 43

[mellow elm]

18 teleporters is 36 singularty cells per minute.
so thats almost 8 nuclear pasta per minute just to run those. lol

crazy.

its something like 1400 copper ingots per minute just for 1.2 pasta.

[hard ivy]

bro what kinda math are you doing? first was 1 pasta for 5 cells, now it's 4?

[shy mulch]

it allows me to have a gate room like this https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/553550313533997057/1419069999318040786

[mellow elm]

memory math, its not great.

[unkempt blade]

really though math is just what we want it to be 😆

[mellow elm]

That is hot. I'm into it. I love it!

I just remember its 2 cells per minute to run the teleporter.

and its 1 pasta per minute for 10 cells.

after that it all gets foggy

[unkempt blade]

I kind of just want to put up an unpowered portals and clip a HT cannon entrance though the front and see if I can get into the cannon

then it's the best of both worlds

[mellow elm]

Temu portals. Great idea.

Put some display panels around the tubes so it looks like you're in a teleporter.

[shy mulch]

I can't even remember what it is exactly, set it up quite a while ago. Just remember that I have 1 manufacturer fully overclocked and slooped, which makes 50/min, and 12.5/min of those go towards BWD production, and the rest goes to the portal room
New factory that I'm working on will be making 100/min and using 50 for BWD, and 50 to portal room

[slate lava]

hol up does stuff stop working if iam to far away?

[unkempt blade]

no it works even better then

[slate lava]

ok then iam just underestimating the stash space in containers

[mellow elm]

It only stops working when you move far away if it was never working to begin with.

[cunning siren]

Worth it?

[rose lotus]

...why https://i.imgur.com/3Sacahb.jpeg

even worse when i rotate it the edges DO line up https://i.imgur.com/bYI53d7.jpeg

[hard ivy]

remove the power tower temporarily?

[spark sky]

You know, sometimes when I watch a video on building things like vertical circles, I wish I knew if they were using mods from the start. I'm trying to build stuff in vanilla, and some of the stuff they do in the videos doesn't seem possible (walls and foundations always seem parallel and level, except for ramps, for instance). I saw in a screenshot that someone had a vertical lift at an odd angle, but can't seem to figure out how they did it without a mod.\

[rose lotus]

is that the cause?

[spark sky]

At this rate, if I'm going to do what I want to do with regard to creative architecture, I may have to look into using mods.

[hard ivy]

no clue but that's the first thing I'd try

[rose lotus]

no effect

also the issue gets less obvious with concrete material painting

like the physical geometry changes

https://i.imgur.com/j8T7rgW.jpeg

[spark sky]

To me, some of the materials are almost impossible to paint. I try different colors and get almost no change.

[hard ivy]

iirc the wonky lifts can be done in vanilla, but yeah, hardcore architects def use mods

[coral sundial]

What are some good YouTubers to learn to build things

[spark sky]

Well, I wish there were more options in vanilla. It would be nice, for instance, to have some sort of beams that were the size of the legs for belt supports and the square signs, it would be nice if there were a way to tilt other things (like foundations and barriers). I also wish there were a way to place caps on the open, unused inputs/outputs to mergers and splitters. Also, it would be nice if the pieces that you used to pass belts through walls and vertical lifts through floors would actually show a hole you could see through. (I know, this would require some more complex programming and/or modelling, which may not be possible, but still, it's something I'd like to see.)

[green fiber]

that wall geometry thing was the reason we originally didnt get any freely placable holes to begin with

the "magic black plane that passes through" solution is probably the best we'll ever get

[spark sky]

Yeah. I tried putting one of those on the output of a splitter, then I tried a beam support (that actually looked pretty nice).

In my current project, I want some arbitrarily angled wall pieces, I may have to build them up from beams.

I also got an odd idea to use signs to make some architectural pieces.

[unkempt blade]

this actually works and it entirely hides the HT entrance if you set it up right 😆

[spark sky]

They wouldn't be "solid", but if they look like what I'm thinking about, it's worth a try.

(Blueprints will help here.)

[cunning siren]

Every time I start game it's like: "Bruuuh! You want 75% Screen percentage right!?!?".... <Have to set it to 50% every time> 😆

[torn token]

Are you sure?

[hard ivy]

wdym "are you sure"???
you get twice as many shards per slug than you would normally if you make them in a constructor with the production amplifier

so 2 for a green, 4 for a yellow and 10 for a purple

[limpid cairn]

There’s blue yellow and purple slugs btw

[hard ivy]

oh, yeah, the first ones are blue now kekw

now that I think about it, that might've been my old monitor's color accuracy being shit

nope, they actually did used to be green

[zenith fractal]

slug

they may even be. powered.

[peak wasp]

You can get double the power slugs and automate them later on btw

I finally got 12 heavy modular frames per minute set up feels good

[tame sierra]

THE DECUPLED CAMERA HAS PUSHING FORCE (it moves the balloons thats the only evidence i got)

[cunning siren]

It's a good plan to set a dedicated "space" for "permanently placed constructors" you will "re-sloop" to get the slug goop because the first combine on a "newly slooped" factory is not counted. OOOoooof! Why it's a good reason to set them up once and never move them again

[tacit trellis]

Surely the decoupled camera is just a drone right

[dark ice]

👀

[cunning siren]

I keep forgetting that is a feature that can be used for things other than taking pictures 😆

[sharp sentinel]

Can you run two drones to the same port?

Any special steps involved or will they automatically go back and forth?

[hard ivy]

place drones at ports A and B, target them to C. the firs tone will go A<->C, the second B<->C

if you place a drone at C, it'll only be able to go either C<->A or C<->B

[cunning siren]

Pro tip, don't place drone at C 😆

[hard ivy]

well, you can if you want double the throughput from A or B

you just can't get both

[brave thorn]

Is there a tutorial on how to stop playing too much?

[zenith fractal]

no

the factory must grow

[limpid cairn]

youll slowly stop at some point dw

[cunning glade]

Is there a list of items I can take around with me too get a good amount of hard drives

[hard ivy]

https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/hard-drives

[cunning glade]

Ty

[feral geyser]

I use two drone ports at either end (1+2 and A+B) and drones on all four, going back and forth in pairs. They don't use fuel while in holding formation, so it's fine if they unload a tiny bit slow.

Or three at either end, or four, however many you need for throughput.

[hard ivy]

omfg I just realized you could use drones to build a balancer lmao

this would be awful

a simple 3:3 would be twenty four drone ports (and 18 drones)

and it probably wouldn't even be balanced properly

[shy fog]

partially... you can throw more drones at a single port than that

Josh showed us his tower of drones

[violet delta]

on the map, after a radar tower has been placed, what does it mean if a resuorse is highlighted in yellow, and i satill havn't put a miner on it

[shrewd palm]

i think its just a bug

every now and then when i open my map resources will be yellow/orange and vehicles/vehicle stations are green

[dense violet]

welll, thats an online map that's a 100% exploration spoiler

if you don't want that just take a stack of every item you make and go.

a spoiler warning should really come with linking that resource

[cunning glade]

For me it's kinda broken

Unless u mean the cords

Idk just looks dumb on mobile atleast

I'll look at it when home

On PC

[dense violet]

it's not a great mobile tool, no

[cunning glade]

Works tho

[dense violet]

but it is a 100% exploration spoiler if you care at all about that

[cunning glade]

What do I do for power

[dense violet]

what have you used inthe past that is small and creates power?

[cunning glade]

Well I have global train network so nvm

[hard ivy]

The list of HDDs is barely a spoiler bro tf are you talking about?

[dense violet]

you're going to run train stations to all of them? I guess that's an option

[hard ivy]

An augmenter can open any drop pod

[cunning glade]

For people that wanna explore it most certainly is

[cunning glade]

A huh

[hard ivy]

Locations would be but the list of requirements? Really?

[cunning glade]

I think ik

[cunning glade]

That link is both

[dense violet]

anyway I was talking about bio burners. They're easy to build. Have a stack of solid bio fuel with you

[cunning glade]

Fuel gens would be better

Wait

[hard ivy]

You mean you know where the drop pod is based on its coords? In units different from in-game units no less?

[cunning glade]

Can they burn packaged fuel

[hard ivy]

Why would you use a fuel gen for drop pods lmao. How are you getting the fuel for it?

[cunning glade]

But I have a global train network won't be an issue

[hard ivy]

An augmenter is the simplest solution by far

[cunning glade]

?

If not then nvm

[hard ivy]

No XD

they used to before pipes were added

[cunning glade]

That's why I said wait and asked

[hard ivy]

You'd have to unpackage it

[cunning glade]

The main reason I've said that is I've seen a few need like 300-400mw

[hard ivy]

I guess you could blueprint a single biomass gen with some fuel, a packager with some packaged fuel, and a fuel gen. It'd give you 250 MW after a few seconds

But an augmenter makes 550, which opens every drop pod

[cunning glade]

I don't have an augmenter

Idk if I can make it last I checked I couldn't

[hard ivy]

You have trains but not augmenters?

[cunning glade]

I'm not the explorer this is a 2 person save

I've been playing alot more than my friend lol

But I'm wanting alt recipes so I'm gonna go on a journey for them

[hard ivy]

Do you have depots at least?

[sullen gull]

What's so wrong with exploring in this game? lol

[cunning glade]

Have yes use no

[cunning glade]

Nothing I just have been doing factory stuff

[versed mesa]

Hello all

[hard ivy]

Insane behaviour lmao

[cunning glade]

I have plans in my head that I wanna do

[cunning glade]

They seem useful

[sullen gull]

All of em should include a dd or 20 🤣

[versed mesa]

Do it what can go wrong lol

[cunning glade]

Just haven't found a use for them

[limpid cairn]

how

[hard ivy]

They're the best addition to the game since blueprints. Since zoop, maybe even

[sullen gull]

To not have to run back to whereever to get parts. Or, in most cases, not have to have the parts in your own inventory

[dense violet]

eh, augmenters are just another 'duping' mechanic they threw in.

boring imo. A 'play less' mechanic

[sullen gull]

Also, I like to keep mutiples of things like Blade runners, rebar guns, jet packs, etc, for when new vistors come to a world. They don't have to make them and can just pull them from the dd

[versed mesa]

@dense violet how are you today ?

[cunning glade]

I also don't use bp

[hard ivy]

What is this, the masochistic playthrough?

[cunning glade]

Well ig kinda I've used some track sets

But haven't made my own

Discord broke

[cunning glade]

I just haven't needed them idk

[coarse yarrow]

What are some rlly cool mods to play around with?

[rigid mist]

bruh no wonder my caterium was running slow my 600 line was linked into my 1200 line instead of the other 600 line

[cunning glade]

Most of the time tho I need different things idk it keeps changing what I need

[rigid mist]

i was only supplying 1800 out of 2400

[cunning glade]

Fair it's only gonna be me and my friend tho

Ammo would be one but don't really have ammo automated actually now that I think about ti

[sullen gull]

That's why you explore early on, collect a bunch of mercers and some sam you find along away, do the research, then add a dd to each item (Don't need ALL, but most are nice to have "at hand" and then build away. Only ones I have ever ran out of are concrete and steel beams. You can offset that by adding two (Or more in the case of concrete) upload sources for an item, and it uploads them faster.

[spark sky]

Hm. Let's see, the programmable splitter, I've not used one yet, but, let's say you had a setup to make something, but you had two possible directions you might want to send it, but not necessarily at the same time. Could this splitter be used to switch which direction it was going?

[sullen gull]

With reconfiguring, yes.

The Pogrammable is basically an upgraded smart spllitter where you can configure mutiple specific items per output.

[hard ivy]

Imma be honest the only time I placed a programmable splitter was immediately after I unlocked it the first time to see what it was. That's it

[sullen gull]

I use one for my "mobile hub base" that I use to configure what items I want to sink and what items I want to pass through to a sorter

I just built it so it's like a "feature" I can walk up to and configure. Need to figure out a better placement near the sink though ...

[cunning glade]

We did do this

I'm just finding it needs too happen again

A good amount of the mam is complete

[sullen gull]

Probably unless doing some strange fangled sushi (Looking at you @sterile blade 😏 ), their use-cases do seem quite limited...

Like, I could see them being useful if one were crazy enough to have a train station being loaded with multiple items and then have them sorted on the drop maybe.. 🤷‍♂️ . Again though, fangled sushi 🤣

[spark sky]

See, I have a constructor setup to make alien protien (with a Somersloop), then have to change which kind of animal part I'm feeding it. That's not the relevant part. All the alien protien goes into storage. Now, from that storage, I can either send it to be made into Alien DNA (also Somerslooped) for the Awesome Sink, or, I might instead want it to go to become biomass (also Somerslooped) to be converted to solid biomass (nice since 1 animal part would equate to 800 solid biofuel). At least, that's the current plan.

[sullen gull]

If you've done the research in the mam already, there is no reason to store the DNA afterwards fyi.

Unless doing a challenge for yourself, you should be on coal power before needing protien to biomass imo.

But otherwise, You would need to configure the progSplitter each time you wanted to change it.

[marsh garnet]

it's free awesome shop tickets

also you get satisfaction of processing your victims in a factory

[spark sky]

I wasn't planning on storing the DNA, just the Alien Protien, since that would be what I would be sending one way or the other. My biomass power plant is there for backup. I'm in the process of building my first coal power plant (3 stacks of 4), but, thanks to the lizzard doggos, I've already researched and set up some geothermal power plants. The Biomass power plant is for backup, in case I go over what the coal and geothermal are producing.

[cunning siren]

When it comes to getting that Ionized fuel... quick and dirty is how I did it 😆 #screenshots message

[sullen gull]

Ya'll some dark mutha truckers for sure 🤣

[spark sky]

Besides, I want some of each power plant just to say I did it.

[sullen gull]

Careful with reliance on thermalgens, their power varies greatly 😛

[rigid mist]

time to build 84 manufacturers

my nuclear factory is already city sized and i still have half of it to build