satisfactory

[sullen gull]

Concrete walls? Purchased in the MAM

Or you can colour with the customizer.

[limpid cairn]

not that

i mean when im building stuff white walls appear

[cunning siren]

It only takes 42 quartz to research and build Blade Runners 😆 I'm almost done with phase 2 and just built them... ooof

[silk ocean]

It's like the historical manufacturing heartland of the US, prob not so much now, the rust belt is like Pennsylvania, Ohio, Indiana, Michigan, Illinois, and New York

[sullen gull]

OH,,, "Show Clearance". Under Gameplay iirc

[sullen gull]

Am I too assume you are also in the belt, given the interest? 😏

[sullen gull]

@limpid cairn

[silk ocean]

I wish, I am stuck in England xD

[limpid cairn]

theres still a white box even after disabling it

[sullen gull]

Oh, fak, duh, you said that. 🤦‍♂️

[silk ocean]

London town xD

[sullen gull]

Sho a quick screenshot?

[limpid cairn]

#screenshots message

[sullen gull]

I've only been to Gloucestershire, and through Heathrow .

[stray herald]

How would y'all solve this situation:
I have a copper sheet mini factory. 700 metres from it is a motor factory.
Together, they should be taken to a train station, which takes them to the red forest, grabs aluminum, then goes further south to the cooling system factory.

How do I cleanly transfer the copper sheets and motors to the station?
A drone?
I need 5 motors and 60 sheets a minute

[clear wadi]

my planner are making 90 quickwires, 6.25 circuits, 5 limiter, 6connector, 10 computer and 3 crystal oscillator

[silk ocean]

I have no idea where Gloucestershire is xD

Somewhere in England lol

[sullen gull]

I feel this may just me a limitation of your graphics. Hopefully someone has a better answer, But I think that's part of the build animation, and as far as I know, cannot be disabled.

[sullen gull]

Next to Cheltenham, The spa towne 😏

[silk ocean]

I'll have to google this poop XD

[limpid cairn]

it kinda appeared after i changed my settings to low

[clear wadi]

will computer be use more after this state cause i can make more

[dense violet]

do a sloppy belt 🙂

[sullen gull]

Yeah, in "high" settings, I think it's supposed to be similar to a "subtle" downward glow... if that makes sense.

[stray herald]

Yeah that's what I have rn lol

It's whatever lmao idk why I want everything perfect

Especially with curved belts, tey look decent

[silk ocean]

In the Cotswolds? Where is that, like west of London xD

[dense violet]

that's fine 🙂

if that sort of thing bothers you , later you can learn to plan out factories to avoid that sort of thing

[sullen gull]

Bout 3 hours from ya. NW iirc

[silk ocean]

It's a bit far to go XD

[stray herald]

These are both in my starting location (rocky desert) and I didn't know cooling systems existed beforehand. That's why

[dense violet]

oh yeah it's suuuuper hard to plan things out nicely when you ahven't unlocked everything

that's why I don't bother. Sloppy belts = happiness

[sullen gull]

Psssh, the fact that you are able to drive to so many countries with in a couple of hours is awesome to me lol.

[dense violet]

it's only after everything is unlocked that I make really planned out nice factories

[sullen gull]

London to Paris, 8 hours, done

[silk ocean]

Driving 4 minutes to the supermarket is a mission lol

[stray herald]

I just got to phase 5 a couple days ago. I set up a fused frame factory yesterday and today I am doing the cooling systems. I have all the resources I just have to ship them, make some heat sinks, then add nitrogen

[sullen gull]

Hell, less than, only 6 hours! GAH!~

[silk ocean]

How much is gasoline in your neck of the woods?

[sullen gull]

I regualrly drive 12+ hours for work to different states, so driving is nothing lol. Though, To continue this convo, better to take it to #off-topic-general

[dense violet]

nice 😄 got some world plans for when you've done all the tier unlocks?

(brb shower)

[quick verge]

Can you set up a push pull train system within a loop, or does it have to terminate on one or both sides?

[silk ocean]

We're like 1.28 per liter

[stray herald]

I am trying for 100% achievements on this world!

[silk ocean]

It's not hard to get 100%

Doesn't even require all hard drives

[sullen gull]

That's the only reason for my current save 🤣

[stray herald]

Yeah lol

I want to play with alts unlocked and stuff

So once I finish this I am dipping

Maybe unlocked MAM too

I like relaxing when playing

Make it a little more cozy-ish

[sullen gull]

Ahh, I was merely just referring to the steam achievements 😏

[stray herald]

Oh yeah don't worry I understood I was just saying why I have no major plans past phase 5

There's a lot to explore that I haven't done

[dense violet]

well that's not too hard. ! what about factories post phase 5?

[stray herald]

Not really. I feel like I've learned a lot though

I don't usually do creative stuff, my artistic side is non-existent lmao

My current save is all math no flavor

I care too much about efficiency. ADA PTSD

[dense violet]

oh? that's too bad. No mechanics you feel like making part of a personal goal?

I'm aiming for 1600 HMF pm

with some sushi load balancing and fancy architecture

[stray herald]

I wanted to make a storage hub, and have everything moved by vehicles

This is my first world since U8

[dense violet]

that could be fun? you could also move jsut a small amount of everything to a central spot and produce it there ?

[stray herald]

There is a SAM ore in a lake near the slope going from Rocky Desert to Red forest. I was thinking about building a pyramid-shaped purple factory for SAM stuff there, but the lake is now covered in train tracks xDD

[dense violet]

it does sound like yo uahve plans 🙂

[stray herald]

Yeah but I always say 'After I get the achievements i'll do that'

[silk ocean]

SO... is there any point in the crater other than extracting the oil for other purposes xD

I have already plundered everything.. next step would be to nuke from space if it wasn't infinite. 😈

[exotic pilot]

Oi chat

I bet you there will be mk 3 pipes in 1.2

[rigid fractal]

After playing for a while is it normal to get lag deleting things?

[exotic pilot]

Idk my computer is too bad not to lag

[rigid fractal]

I thought mine would never lag but it does after like 4-5 hours of playing. Probably just have to restart

[exotic pilot]

My computer takes 10-15 minutes to shut down

I think I might reinstall windows soon

[rigid fractal]

I just built this Ryzen 9/5090 build 2 weeks ago and have been grinding satisfactory

[exotic pilot]

Dang

[stray herald]

I'd like better vehicle controls (e.g tell a train to grab X stacks of an item, and drop Y stacks of another item) at the same station

[exotic pilot]

Add both

It’s just having 16 pipes for 16 power plants is a bit annoying

I find liquids the most annoying thing on the game

[dense violet]

trains are big manifolds. As long as you supply enough that'll happen

[stray herald]

Anyone ever get a bug where the resources won't go into the freight station?

[dense violet]

only if the station isn't powered/connected properly

[stray herald]

I usually have to rebuild thes tation

Without changing anything tho, it fixes it

[dense violet]

are you building them as chunks of BP?

[feral geyser]

i don't get a bug where that happens, but i do sometimes forget to set the station mode correctly for load/unload -.-

[distant hill]

Oh good it's' fine again... this discord went wonky earlier during a wider spread discord issue... I'd never seen anything like it and thought 'did I get banned or something' But no, it was just the servers being wonky

[stray herald]

It won't let me dock for some reason

IDK what's wrong

Every time I adjust rails/ signals to/ from a station, I gotta rebuild it in-place, otherwise it won't let me use it

[limpid cairn]

Pretty sure the devs said they can’t implement t3 pipes

😔

[stray herald]

Oh?

Why not?

[limpid cairn]

No clue

I can imagine that the engine isn’t letting them implement t3 pipes

[reef basin]

There won't be

[exotic pilot]

: (

[stray herald]

Do we have an approximate release window/ content adjustment for 1.2?

[green fiber]

We dont even know whats supposed to be IN 1.2

[stray herald]

Oh I see

[limpid cairn]

Iirc someone said 1.2 will appear next year (not 100% approved by devs)

Or if we are lucky in winter time which I highly doubt

[lament eagle]

has there been any update on vertical splitter jank?

[limpid cairn]

Would love to see more energy types tbh

Atm you kinda only have fuel and nuclear power

[green fiber]

Technically Alien Power counts as some form of power production

[valid dragon]

unpopular opinion but i want the nuclear power plants to meltdown and explode if they are overloaded with waste

machines exploding would be pretty cool ngl

[rustic hare]

the jank when you use floor holes + splitters together and the vert splitters snap to the half mark? and the superposition when you put a vert conveyor between a splitter and the floor hole it just have a mind of it's own on where it wants to rotate? no, those haven't been fixed

[cunning siren]

Anybody have a DPS chart?

Cant seem to find stun rebar 🙁

[limpid cairn]

Thats not the only machine that’ll explode if that gets added

[lament eagle]

dang. i just need them to behave like one might expect and then I could come back to the game. it really irks me.

[valid dragon]

lets game it out would have fun

[cunning glade]

Is there such a thing as too many batteries

[stray herald]

More Drones = more profit = ADA happy

[rustic hare]

I built a huge tower with many I/O lines that require vert splitter and mergers, I literally have to place a normal vertical belt to position the splitter correctly before I can delete it and hook it to the hole, just for it to rotate the wrong way, then I delete and repeat that placement for idk how many times lmao

[cunning glade]

Okay I should clarify

Power storage

Didn't know there was a actual batteries thing in this game

[stray herald]

Oh

[dense violet]

oh well... sure. Especially with Priority power switches exist there's not a huuuuge use for them

[stray herald]

xD

[lament eagle]

ooof. ouch. my clicking finger aches at the thought.

[dense violet]

they aren't bad for kick starting new power projects you don't have enough powe on hand for?

[cunning glade]

I see

I don't be using the priority power switches

[stray herald]

So I just automated cooling systems and fused frames, do I do radio control units next?

[dense violet]

well if you stick one on the output of yoru power station and make the power station the top priority, it won't shut down when the fuses go

[valid dragon]

power switches confuse me tbh havent bothered implementing them in anything
i just save and hope for the best

[dense violet]

sure 🙂

[rustic hare]

yes, pressure cubes, then turbo motors

[feral geyser]

Yes, then pasta

[cunning glade]

I don't think I have them yet

[stray herald]

Yeah I just checked I need the Radio CUs for Turbo motors

[valid dragon]

same here i was gonna automate turbo motors tho but that seems like a much easier step

[cunning glade]

Cuz like I have a lot of space under my factory so I was gonna place a lot

[stray herald]

It seems multiple things need RCUs actually so might make a few

[cunning glade]

Only downside it eats alot of components but I don't think it's a bad idea

[rustic hare]

I prefer the Turbo Electric Motor alt recipe, doesn't need fused frames, or cooling system

[stray herald]

Yes it's way 'cheaper'

Less aluminum = good in my book

[limpid cairn]

will we get a refinery buff in 1.2?

[feral geyser]

It saves you aluminum on the cooling system, but costs you extra on the RCUs.

[rustic hare]

yep, I'm just lazy to automate cooling system tbh

[feral geyser]

Fair

[valid dragon]

whats the best Cooling system alt?

or is the base the best

[dense violet]

like every item, there is no overall best. Depends what you have and how you want to build them

[valid dragon]

ehh

[woeful gale]

do it possible to get 600 water or oil from 250% extractor?

[valid dragon]

i beg to differ with cast screws

[dense violet]

you get more screws per resource with steel rod. Hence, cast screw is not best

[steady glade]

make screws out of aluminium

[rustic hare]

what about steel screws + molded beams?

[stray herald]

Screws??? None of my homies use screws

[dense violet]

they are great and compact. Make steel beams from aluminium 😛

[steady glade]

aluminum modular frames

[rustic hare]

fr 3 constructors at base speed eating 15 beams/min can fill up a whole mk5 belt with screws

[dense violet]

in any case, with Cooling devicse you could cut out oil from the recipe entirely? just use coal for hte bauxite and steel

honestly looking at the two Cooling System recipes both can be great depending on where you are and what exactly you're doing

[rustic hare]

yeah I like Cooling Device because it cuts the water and rubber requirement

[dense violet]

that isn't a bad opinion no.

if you happen to already be making rubber/plastic on site the Base recipe probably is good for that. A bit less complex

and you will often be bringing oil to a place you're processing bauxite

[feral geyser]

I do that

Unfortunately, you still gotta use iron for the plates for the RIPs

[rustic hare]

ngl with products the require many pre-requisites like the turbo motor, the amount of alts you can choose from (including ones that make up the motor like computer, oscillator alts, etc) gets pretty damn long lol

[feral geyser]

It does get overwhelming at times 😭

Analysis paralysis is a real thing

[tiny orbit]

gun go brrrr

[rustic hare]

I'm choosing between what radio controller alt I want to use

[dense violet]

are you making it from scatch? importing things?

[rustic hare]

yeah I can basically pull any item I want, so I'm trying to maximize rates and resource saving, space also isn't a problem

[dense violet]

bit of a tough choice then. Have you picked a location? or mulling that as well?

is the aluminium already being made or scracth scratch?

[reef basin]

That's hardly useful

[valid dragon]

yeah i realised that when i said the wrong recipe and stopped talking

[reef basin]

Their loss 🤷

[valid dragon]

its not that bad when i cant be bothered tho

[dense violet]

caterium CB, alt Oscilator, recycled rubber loop - radio control system is a nice combo

oil caterium for the osci and CBs, need a bit of crystal but can't get away from that

[rustic hare]

already got a 4k aluminum ingot factory with a station ready to ship

[dense violet]

so just oil, caterium and crystal for that set up.

and iirc ti's bauxite efficient

[narrow elm]

Who has the largest amount of point in the sink currently

[dense violet]

!wikisearch sink

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=sink

[dense violet]

list should be on there

[narrow elm]

Like at max output how much are you all making bc I think ima about to top it all with my design

[limpid seal]

guys

i need help with making more water coal so i can get more energy from my coal generators

[dense violet]

!wikisearch CG

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=CG

[dense violet]

easy layouts for coal gens 🙂

[limpid seal]

ooo

[feral geyser]

You could also put three on a pipe with a single water extractor, and clock the gens down to 88.8889% so they only use 40/min water each, 120 total.

It would be stupid, but you could do it

[limpid seal]

my layout is kanda spagetti

kinda

[feral geyser]

It's okay, we're all Italian here

[limpid seal]

i am swedish meatballs

@feral geyser can i dm you a pic of my spagetti

[dense violet]

if you're going to do not spaghetti somehwere, do it for your power

[feral geyser]

Send in #screenshots

[narrow elm]

Hey cobalt

[limpid seal]

done

[narrow elm]

Are modular engines used for anything else then space parts?

[feral geyser]

That's not even so bad lol

[limpid seal]

you havent seen my factory YET

[dense violet]

space parts are only for space parts

[narrow elm]

No

[leaden turret]

sinking

[narrow elm]

Bc dont heavy frames and computers get turedni to

Super computers and nucular pasta

[limpid seal]

I don't even know wat everything does

[silk ocean]

YET 😈

[limpid seal]

my screenshot of my factory inst even everything

[silk ocean]

Coming Soon™

Coming to a factory near you, soon

[limpid seal]

i have five waterpumps

to seven generators

[silk ocean]

Don't mention this on the pamphlet

[true mulch]

the ratio is 3:8 but you need to keep the limit of the pipe in mind

the diagram from the wiki says it all

build on foundations to keep things organized

[limpid seal]

does the nuke nobelisk destroy stuff that i have built?

[green fiber]

No

[limpid seal]

muehehehe

does it make radiation?

[true mulch]

temporarily

[limpid seal]

imma blow some rocks

how do i change to the nuke from the normal nobelisks?

[true mulch]

Hold the reload button

[limpid seal]

oooooooooooooooh

[true mulch]

Also works for holding E for quick switch when building

[limpid seal]

it didnt do shit

i tried blowing up some rocks that are in the way with the nuke and nothing happend moore then radiation

[stray herald]

Do you folks usually split a factory's production (e.g bauxite factory making both iron sheets and cotainers) or do you make multiple factories, each for one specific product?

[reef basin]

B is correct

[stray herald]

When I unlocked steel, oil, and aluminum, I made one factory that splits into two lines (e.g half the oil to plastic, the rest to rubber)

And nos it's giving me headaches

[shy mulch]

I appreciate the 3:8 coal gen guide for newbies, but I stand by my position that if someone is struggling with the absolute basics, it's better to give them a 1:2 layout first then they can upgrade to 2:4, then to 3:8 once they understand how to place pipes and splitters and use foundations. Some people need to take things a bit slower and we should be ok with that

[reef basin]

if you give them the layout directly, it doesn't matter if it's 3:8 or 1:2, they will just build it blindly and makes no difference

[shy mulch]

getting it wrong and learning is better than getting it right by copying 🙂

[reef basin]

sure, that's why you use 3:8, it teaches you more

[shy mulch]

anyone who needs the coal gen layout guide is demonstrating that they don't understand throughput, that should be something to learn by doing, just copying it won't teach them anything

[reef basin]

and what's the difference of showing them 3:8 build vs 1:2 build? they will copy it no matter what

[shy mulch]

I don't show anything, just tell. They can figure it out. Build the 1:2 then figure out how to expand that, notice the problem they encounter with 3:8 and solve it

[reef basin]

1:2 is expanded to 4:8 tho

which doesn't have the issues 3:8 has

[shy mulch]

In other news, my pc wanted a restart for a security update, so I clicked "action now" and it restarted, then said it needs another restart for another security update. Why couldn't it just do them both togeter

[shy mulch]

Exactly, so when they get to 3:6 and try to expand to 2 more goal gens without adding another water extractor, they get to learn something

[reef basin]

why would they not add another extractor, when they learned 1:2 works fine?

[shy mulch]

to be more efficient

[reef basin]

difference is negligible and new players usually just repeat what they learned

[shy mulch]

some do, others obsess about irrelevant efficiencies, just need to tailor the advice to the specific player, which was kinda my point
I wasn't saying there was anything wrong with the 3:8 guide, just that it doesn't necessarily suit everyone

[limpid cairn]

Depends on a lot of factors

[barren dove]

I collected a bunch of harddrives so when i unlocked the phase of oil i went for recycled rubber and recycled plastic alts. Together with a blieprint. So now i only need fuel to make endless rubber or plastic whenever i need some

[orchid forge]

how do you guys link up multiple factories

long distance wise, ive got a few factories which are all over the place so i just have conveyer belts everywhere

[leaden turret]

#screenshots message

[hollow halo]

Idk gang, I got a wired mess of belts to just pull items to one area 😔🙏

[orchid forge]

thanks

[silk ocean]

When* a retailer doens't accept my AMEX, are you able to get them to accept it using corporate threats and bribery XD

or is that illegal, I'm not sure XD

[shy mulch]

Hahaha it's very illegal 😂
There are processes in place to prevent any one person doing something like that, it would take collaboration between multiple teams to get it enabled so it's not the sort of thing you can just hit a button and make it happen hehe

[silk ocean]

So watching Heat Directors Cut has not achieved anything in the AMEX department at the shoe shop

Where are you when I need you, Al Pacino

[shy mulch]

If you're trying to obtain shoes, use the Marie Schrader technique

[narrow elm]

How many hours have y’all got on the game just curious

[shy mulch]

I'm at 1210.7

[orchid forge]

150 hours

and somehow its my most played game on my account but in reality my most played is BG3

[shy mulch]

I'm glad most of my games aren't on steam so I don't get a count. At 1200 hours this isn't even in my top 3 lol

[orchid forge]

honestly im a bit dissapointed

[silk ocean]

1408.6 on steam, 2102.2 server running

[shy mulch]

If I could see the hour counters on my other games I'd probably jump out the window hahaha

[orchid forge]

i thought i would have a lot of hours in my games

[sterile blade]

2k-ish

[limpid cairn]

140h

[sterile blade]

Disappointed by how much time you spent gaming?

[narrow elm]

Mines just at 123 hours

[sterile blade]

Is anyone supposed to shame you for that or something? XD

[limpid cairn]

you can be proud of not wasting a shit ton of hours at playing video games

its something good nothing bad

[narrow elm]

I’m going to be doing a lot more but at the moment I’m jumping between 2 houses so I can’t really play for long plus I have a full time job

[silk ocean]

So I can magstripe my VISA or AMEX in the US with zero authentication, and I can do the same in the UK and have to enter a PIN and basically sell my private details XD Seems like authentication is a giant pile of bullshit xD

[shy mulch]

How is entering a pin for authentication selling private details? You don't give any personal information

[silk ocean]

You missed the conjunction

These non-English speakers.. it's hard work 😉

Try Mk.6 belts.. You could go for a medical checkup in town

You could wait longer than it takes WaslstDaz to develop a new payment system XD

[shy mulch]

what did I miss?

[true mulch]

I wasn't saying there was anything wrong with the 3:8 guide, just that it doesn't necessarily suit everyone
You could say that about just about any guide. Would you rather there be no advice at all?
Not only that the wiki cannot possibly cover every possible edge case and every scenario, it's not even trying to - you're meant to use the provided information to learn about the mechanic and adapt it to your needs, not follow it blindly

[silk ocean]

The and? xD

[shy mulch]

I agree, and that is absolutely my point. Any time anyone mentions coal gens and any kind of issue, everyone just throws the 3:8 guide at the problem instead of taking a moment to understand the player and decide if that will solve their problem or not

[true mulch]

well, the guide came into existence because in most cases, people struggle with the same thing

[silk ocean]

I'm just bad at English. Never trust a native English speaker. We are a nightmare xD

[true mulch]

taking a moment to understand each player takes effort 😭

[shy mulch]

yes, it is correct and very useful for most people, but it is given to all people, there are exceptions where it doesn't help and I just want to raise awareness of those exceptions

[limpid seal]

i have started on the new layout of my coal generator

[silk ocean]

I speak very good English - received pronunciation - pure English or whatever you call it, I slack when typing but that is natural xD

[dense violet]

never seen it on pipes or belts

and I don't have the best rig

[shy mulch]

I intentionally type/speak worse than I want to, because if I type in my naturally autistic fashion people accuse me of copy pasting from wikipedia, or more recently of using AI

[true mulch]

I learned English from the internet (ever since I was a child I knew I wanted to be indoors on the computer), so my typing is fine but my spoken English suuuuuucks

[silk ocean]

Oh don't worry about that I think xD

[silk ocean]

You are excellent, nobody cares about spoken English these days xD

I would never have known either of you are native English speakers

You're both excellent

Better than me. When you are a native you slack

It's also a presumptuous position to get into. Assuming "well I speak English you can do too"

[shy mulch]

But how is your klingon?

[silk ocean]

Exactly xD Not good enough to land a Klingon stealth ship xD

We should all be speaking Mandarin, it's better than English xD

[shy mulch]

ach ach ahcahchch ach achach gach

[silk ocean]

Klingon is not on the list of best global languages xD

[shy mulch]

I'd love to learn Mandarin

[silk ocean]

English came to prevalence because it's just such an entry barrier. It's very easy to speak and zero conjugation

It has an enormous vocab but you don't need to know 10% of it

I barely know 30% of the OED

It's so easy to understand what even a barely writer means. Even this sentence is trash XD

[shy mulch]

Can writing of nonsense grammer being none then understanding meaning is maintainer

[silk ocean]

You can write anything incomprhensible in English and it will make sense xD

Just use long words xD

[shy mulch]

Has Anyone Really Been Far Even as Decided to Use Even Go Want to do Look More Like?

Sometimes I like to use long words that I don't really understand to make myself seem more photosynthesis

[silk ocean]

Yes use capitals xD

Just use ChatGPT xD

[fluid sapphire]

Haikus are easy.
But sometimes they don't make sense.
Refrigerator

just reminded me of that xd

[silk ocean]

Some things English has moved faster, see that in many languages

English moves fast because it is so versatile

You can write multiple languages in "English" and there is a good chance a native will understand

Je ne sais pas le castle on le rock what le que

Pretty easy for an English to get the jist

[shy mulch]

then you get to german, and you take your car to a garage because it's making a strange noise, and they tell you that your doppelkuplungsgetreib is broken 😄

[silk ocean]

lol yes that is when I say - you what mate xD

Google.. amen I love you xD

German and their long words.. so cute.. so good we got rid of them lol SHOTS FIRED xD

Germany is an awesome country tbh

[shy mulch]

I love germany, I try to visit at least once per year

[silk ocean]

Germany, Finland, Sweden, Norway, and states of the US, they are some of the best countries in the world imo. Expensive xD

[shy mulch]

I'm not a fan of America tbh. Visited Vegas once and it felt like going back in time 20 years

[silk ocean]

You haven't visited the best of North America, it's beautiful and wonderful

[shy mulch]

There's plenty beautiful and wonderful things all over the world. America specifically seems to be quite far behind in mainstream technology. At the top end there is some of the top tech firms, but for day to day life, it doesn't trickle down. Supermarkets, restaurants, hotels, airports, all feel like they are still in 1995

[silk ocean]

I get what you are saying yes, systems can be quite legacy. The country as a whole is really advanced

You can walk into an outlet, airconditioned, in the middle of the Arizona desert, buy some jeans, use your AMEX, done, get back in your Chevvy

[fresh dagger]

hey guys, i just got back from like a 6 month break playing this game, i was wondering if they changed nodes, would that mean some of my miners would sto extracting ( like the node dissapeared beneath them ?) thanks

[silk ocean]

Maybe not but just load and find out xD

or start fresh

[fresh dagger]

alr ! anything else i should know about ?

[silk ocean]

A lot of changes xD

[fresh dagger]

yeah but ive done that many times and never went past like aluminum

[silk ocean]

In theory you can continue

In reality, start fresh

[fresh dagger]

yeah im lost in my own factory rn haha

[silk ocean]

Start a new one, it's a great game xD

[fresh dagger]

yeah but like the first 6 tiers ive done like 5 times haha

maybe im just gonna walk around for a couple hours

re understand all my factory and then go

[silk ocean]

Tier 6 not hard, just teardown the fac and rebuild

[fresh dagger]

i unlocked tier 7 and 8 just before my break

[silk ocean]

Start again xD

Tier 5,6,7,8 - just get bulding a global rail network

It only takes 200 hours xD

[fresh dagger]

rn im like at the blue crater

i walked there before building anything and theres like everything there i just use belt haha

[silk ocean]

300 hours then xD

[shy mulch]

What's advanced about that lol

[karmic flint]

Updating done and game is open. Nice. 🙂

[silk ocean]

Not really advanced, payment systems are just disfunctional, authentication is an illusion

[orchid forge]

no i just expected a lot more

i dont even have that much power

i thought i would have had enough by the time i completed my coal factory lol

[shy mulch]

an illusion in what way?

[silk ocean]

In the sense that they are shit? xD

Why can't I AMEX at a store

Total mess

[shy mulch]

That's up to the store, accepting amex costs them more so many choose not to. It's nothing to do with authorization

[sterile blade]

Do note that Steam/Epic don't track your offline hours ^^

[silk ocean]

I've walked out of stores that do not accept AMEX

[orchid forge]

i dont use offline mode either

[bronze oriole]

just wanna ask something real quick is it possible to gez 800 liquid Biofuel before being done with Phase 2

or die a guy on the dedicated server just cheat

[undone kestrel]

You’d find it difficult in Europe to shop anywhere that isn’t a big chain store 😂

[undone kestrel]

Why wouldn’t it be?

[fluid sapphire]

fluid packaging is tier 5, which is after phase 2

so... i dont think so

[undone kestrel]

Phase 2 is tiers 5 and 6

Oh wait I see

[fluid sapphire]

its not, finishing phase 2 is a prerequisite for unlocking those milestones

[bronze oriole]

and he managed to pick up 40 somesloops and 130 mercer speres in 1.5h such a gamer =)

[undone kestrel]

I meant phase 2 unlocked 5 and 6

[fluid sapphire]

they said before finishing phase 2

[undone kestrel]

Yes I see that now

[fluid sapphire]

thats doable, if they are really, really efficient about it, maybe

but its a bit suspect to me personally, if all they have is liquid biofuel

to get that many spheres and sloops is a lot of climbing, and liquid biofuel offers very little lift, its very slow

[bronze oriole]

we have no jezpack

and i don´t know if he knows the parachute tech

[fluid sapphire]

ok, a little bit extra suspicious if you ask me

[undone kestrel]

Liquid biofuel has more than double the total lift of normal packaged fuel

And is a little bit faster

[fluid sapphire]

im not even addressing regular packaged fuel, thats actually horrific for the jetpack

spheres are pretty tightly packed, but if you want to pick them up in quick succession, i think you need the jetpack, at least

[undone kestrel]

Yeah 130 is just under half of all sloops there no way you can get that in an hour and a half

[rustic hare]

I could only get like 15 sloops in 2 hours of exploration with rocket fuel (I don't know where they are, it's vanilla exploration)

[shy mulch]

With SCIM open and a planned specific route, and probably some practice, I can see it being doable for an experienced speedrunner. Totally opposite to the way I like to play though

[fluid sapphire]

thats what i was thinking, SCIM and preplanning - but if they are in phase 2, idk

[bronze oriole]

i mean to be fair i can see getting everywhere with parachute bladerunner and some foundaitions but you can´t really ignore all of the aliens

[fluid sapphire]

170 pick ups in 90 minutes is almost 2 pickups per minute, and collection time is also a few seconds of that

thats really like superspeed for collecting this stuff

[silver moat]

kinda having trouble planning ahead is there any command to enable all future recipes on codex? i dont mind if it disables achievements

[dense violet]

!wikisearch

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=undefined

[fluid sapphire]

use a production planner

[silver moat]

no way to do it in game ?

[dense violet]

the wiki is basically that

but also future proofing is pointless

[silver moat]

i just made a huge reinforced plate setup because i thought id be using mk2s for a while and mk3s would be hella expensive

[dense violet]

just treat teh tiers as a long tutorial to teach you how to to play in sandbox

[fluid sapphire]

you dont need to make huge factories for basic supplies, its much easier to make what you need, and make more later if you need it

[bronze oriole]

mk 3 conveyers are less of a hassle then mk 2

same with mk 5 and 4

[dense violet]

see what I mean, you could make a big reinfoced plate factory, but you'll get mk3 belts very quickly

[silver moat]

should have checked the wiki my b

but i see now

thx

[dense violet]

just progress. Pre planning will burn you the hell out

[bronze oriole]

until you reach phase 5 then trying to cook up the space elevator parts to be produced fast and efficient is gonna burn you out

[reef basin]

generally the recommendation is to not plan ahead

[fluid sapphire]

i mean at one point you will have to plan ahead at least a little, like deciding on a target production number for a specific product, thats still planning ahead

[silver moat]

just play for your stage and rebuild next phase?

kind of like levels

[fluid sapphire]

you dont need to rebuild necessarily, you can just explore and expand

[dense violet]

no need to rebuild, just build

[finite forge]

is anything known what will happen tomorrow with the birthday event? is it a stream? or is it something in-game? or both? @obsidian zodiac 👀

[bronze oriole]

i am building my farm to help with phase 5 (Lizzarddoggos) and just be watching from the sidline =)

[reef basin]

no, never rebuild. Just build new

[silver moat]

i should be treating every stage like its own level then basically ?

every phase i mean

[dense violet]

ehhh you can

[reef basin]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:Independency this may be a good read for you 🙂 (keep in mind that it's only one way to play, you can play in any way you want, we're just giving recommendations)

[obsidian zodiac]

in game event AND a video coming out 3PM CEST!

[bronze oriole]

just got 1 of the ada void messages

[obsidian zodiac]

no stream, unless yall wanna hang out with me while i make shitposts

[sterile blade]

Shitposting tutorial? Count me in

[finite forge]

always 😄

[limpid cairn]

Do we get a factory cart wrapped in gift paper?

im not long enough in the community but is there an April fools event ?

If no I’m suggesting to replace every train & truck with factory carts

[reef basin]

yes

[true mulch]

I don't think you're ready for the existing April Fools event

[limpid cairn]

Let me guess, it’s exactly what I suggested…

[true mulch]

nothing like that

I won't spoil the surprise

[steady glade]

||snutt is actually in the game on april's fools||

[limpid cairn]

I have no clue who snutt is

[true mulch]

[obsidian zodiac]

this feels oddly sacriligeous, which i suppose says more about this community than anything else

[obsidian zodiac]

youll have to boot up and see tomorrow 😄

[shy mulch]

Who's Jason?

[limpid cairn]

I don’t think the casual sf player knows anyone in the dev team

[limpid cairn]

For real man, I always see him in my satisfactory files

[green fiber]

Will we get to see more concept arts?
As a treat?

[obsidian zodiac]

i am me

[smoky forge]

wow

[obsidian zodiac]

i think thatd be really fun to look over if theres some that havent been seen yet, maybe a future video 🙂

speaking of, at some point i need to ask everyone what kind of videos theyd like to see, cos it cant always be game updates and id still like to keep everyone involved

[green fiber]

bunch of the machines or part concepts have never been seen on our end

Or heck maybe even some of the world (re-)design concepts

[shy mulch]

I'm a simple man. I see video with Satisfactory in the title. I click.
The actual content barely matters 😛

[limpid cairn]

Isn’t that for every type of content the case ?

[obsidian zodiac]

they watch a lot of videos

[steady glade]

im sure some shorts about lizard doggos, beans and stingers would go hard

[obsidian zodiac]

ive got a great one about stingers ill cook up soon

[zenith pecan]

I often made a combat shack blueprint with conveyor wall holes so I can bomb stingers with impunity because they can be so irritating.

[obsidian zodiac]

you went full fortnite on them, love it

[zenith pecan]

Too right, it was the simplest approach, since this is a building sandbox not so much an fps, it made sense 🙂

While the clip was made for a different purpose, it does demonstrate the bombing with impunity part #satisfactory-experimental message

[true mulch]

you vs. Mikael attempting a Package% speedrun (you must both submit the attempt to speedrun.com)

[green fiber]

Fortnite characters vs Satisfactory Pioneers battle royale - 50 v 50

Which side wins

[zenith pecan]

Does fortnite offer nuclear device spam?

[true mulch]

you can't zoop in fortnite either

[green fiber]

Fornite has rocket launchers and explosives and whatnot

Neither does fornite have blueprints like SF

[zenith pecan]

To blueprint and spam nukes like this #screenshots message 🤣

[green fiber]

They have the edit option for their pieces and also theres some old prebuilt structure consumable item

[obsidian zodiac]

any time to prepare for either side?

or just drop in

[true mulch]

SF players would be at an insane disadvantage without prep

[green fiber]

Prep time and pioneers would build factories so like honestly, to give the fornite guys a chance, it would need to be limited

[zenith pecan]

Yeah, we'd need depots full of produced materials and ordnance.

[obsidian zodiac]

idk if its dropping from the battle bus, i think the fortnite characters win. theyve got better guns and can build with less lol. but if you give SF players even 20-30 min to prepare, i think they win

[green fiber]

5 mins prep at max tbh.

Like, you can still deconstruct stuff you find on the battle map and find weapons

Just that fortnitr guys get fortnite stuff and pioneers get SF stuff or something like that

[true mulch]

on that note, DRG got a Fortnite collab very recently, so Satisfactory collab when?

[unkempt blade]

Yeah but does SF have a pioneer skin that turns you into lady gaga? Checkmate CSS

[obsidian zodiac]

lemme call my ole pal tim sweeney, lets get vbucks in satisfactory

[green fiber]

Ficsit Coupons in Fortnite

[zenith pecan]

Better that than the otherway, at least Ficsit coupons are earned in game, not bought from the cash shop

[unkempt blade]

I've mentioned here before that he lives pretty local to me and I'm happy to leave game feedback on his porch in the form of a message written on a brown paper bag fill with poo. For a nominal fee of course

[green fiber]

In the (old) 50 v 50 team modes your prep time is pretty much just the distance between both busses on each half of the map minus the time until the first enemy goober manages to get to your side

[near frost]

what do i need to do to be able to unlock the turbo fuel Alt recipe cuz i opend 20 hard drives and coudnt find it

[green fiber]

Sulfur Mam research

[true mulch]

research it directly in the MAM sulfur tree

[near frost]

i did

[deep pier]

at the mam it just costs a hard drive

[true mulch]

then you have it already

[near frost]

i mean the other one like the turbo blend one

[upper gale]

Lol building fortification WW1 pillbox

[true mulch]

and do you meet the prerequisites (having blenders)?

[near frost]

i feel like i am missing something

yep

[true mulch]

in that case keep scanning and rerolling

[deep pier]

IDK if it still works but I saw a yt like not reroll the hard drives till he has a ton then he saves the game and loads it to keep rerolling diffrent ones you can try that if you want

[zenith pecan]

Beats having to do acrobatics to kill an irritating target, just bomb the area from safety and carry on building, Ficsit health (lack of) and safety ftw, be efficient pioneer!

[near frost]

it doesnt

[true mulch]

yeah you can save scum hard drive rerolls

[unkempt blade]

at that point might as well just do it from SCIM

[true mulch]

just confirming that it still works

[zenith pecan]

Save scum or save scim, same effect I suppose 😛

[near frost]

oh i get what u mean i will try it out but first i need more hard drives

cuz i rerolled all of mines

[true mulch]

the more you can reroll every save reload the better your chances

although the already rolled ones also contribute by reducing the pool

[near frost]

yep

i am pretty sure i have around 40 tored in the libary

[unkempt blade]

hearing people talk about holding onto bad rolls always makes me feel like I'm the only one picking immediately every drive 😆

[zenith pecan]

I really should get my head around building a new cannon yard and running experiments again.

[true mulch]

I procrastinated researching caterium/quartz/sulfur long enough to reach tier 5, so now all the unclaimed drives are making it easier to get recycled oil alts

no point in choosing recipes I won't use, I'll rather them reduce the pool by 2 to make it more likely to get new recipes after later milestone unlocks

[unkempt blade]

you'll take biocoal and you'll like it!

mostly I just feel like I always have loads of HDs to unlock as soon as stuff is automated and I have downtime to run around

especially now that I have an incentive to get spheres and sloops

[zenith pecan]

I found when only one recipie remains, I can't scan a hard drive to get it, biocoal is the one I actually don't have because of that.

[upper gale]

Yeah if you're scanning hard drives soon as you unlock items it's not too bad. The real problem is when you haven't scanned after many tiers. Then there are many recipes in the pool

[reef basin]

imo no reason to hold drives, unless you really don't want either option for sure

[zenith pecan]

Queueing hard drives with recipes you don't want is the way to eliminate them from the pool, otherwise just pick and move on, there are so many drives on the map that you'd get them all in the end anyhow unless you don't explore, which means you'd have very few sloops and spheres.

[mortal ginkgo]

Real Alpha 100% Male Gamers use whatever recipe they unlock via drives.

You are at Phase 2 and got BioCoal? Well, time to get wood chop chop, manly man!

[zenith pecan]

Destroying foliage for fuel if I recall has an impact long term due to the way the game considers things that are no longer on the map, my playthroughs typically always rush coal as an absolute priority.

[mortal ginkgo]

o.O

[near frost]

the rescan thing works and still no luck

[true mulch]

blocking 2 useless early game recipes makes it more likely to get tier 5 recipes (that I just unlocked) while using less drives

I avoided researching stuff in the MAM I wouldn't automate right away for the same reason

can't get caterium alts if I don't research caterium

[reef basin]

taking all recipes makes it more likely to get higher tier recipes 🤷

[true mulch]

taking a recipe blocks the pool only by that recipe

not taking one blocks it by 2

by the midgame I have better gear to explore the world and gather hard drives (jetpack, explorer)

imo it's strategic to do this in the early game

[reef basin]

but you can use it 🙂

[true mulch]

I know what recipes I want to use and it's a small fraction of the entire pool

[deep pier]

is radar tower/object scanner and going around on foot the best way to look for hard drives or is there a a better way?

[tall lantern]

depends how "cheaty" you consider an external map to be

[brittle nexus]

Just what to play. I went to start a session and again there's another update 🙁 now have to wait for 3 hours to play. Very Annoying. Please do updates once a month.

[crystal siren]

drop pods are usually easy to locate because of the debris lying around. Just a bit tricky if they're on a highly elevated pillar or something. You can also use an external map like from satisfactory calculator, but for many ppl that takes the fun out of the hunt

[unkempt blade]

If you're already up high somewhere I'd take a moment to look around and see if you spot any crash sites. A lot of the exploration stuff gets MUCH easier after you have the jetpack so you might want to save your bigger adventures until then

the scanner is... ok I guess but I found it frustrating as often as not

[deep pier]

is satisfactory calculator like a site?

[deep pier]

I already have the jetpack

[unkempt blade]

awesome! it's a lot less tedious than minecrafting ramps up the side of cliffs 😆

[true mulch]

https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/interactive-map (don't use the actual calculator on the site)

[deep pier]

wait what's wrong with the calculator?

[true mulch]

it's not good

use https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production instead

[unkempt blade]

there are similar tools that people mostly seem to prefer

[silk ocean]

Let's say... that.. suddenly after loading your factory carts.... the plane is cancelled - it can't carry all of these carts.. What happens now

[unkempt blade]

the other thing I like to do that might be helpful is using map pins for crash sites 1) to mark the ones I already opened 2) leave a pin with a notes if I don't have the necessary items to open it

[dense violet]

it doesn't really do any of the product loops

also the UI isn't very good imo

[limpid cairn]

why are there 500 different calculators and why is everyone using a different one

[unkempt blade]

because they're fun side projects for opinionated people with a web dev background 😆

[limpid cairn]

why not make it a programm tho

[true mulch]

would making it a downloadable program make it better?

in fact I personally quite dislike the one planner that IS downloadable...

[reef basin]

Way harder to maintain and develop

[leaden turret]

distributing unsigned binaries can cause issues with malware blockers leading to unintentional reputational flak

[green fiber]

Xkcd or something number XXX who cares:

There are 18 competing standards

Unacceptable! We have to devise a new universal standard that will unite them all

There are 19 competing standards

[silk ocean]

I care. A lot

Static v4 static v6 /56 delegation

[unkempt blade]

I agree, every experienced engineer needs a good technical hill to die on

[leaden turret]

?

[silk ocean]

When my factory cart dies, I want a hill it will explode on xD

[silk ocean]

Too much static.. Static v4

[leaden turret]

gonna need some more context there

[silk ocean]

Hmm. how to add context to a static v4.. Let's see.. A static IPv4 routable address that cooks dinner for you?

[green fiber]

What does anything said in the last 10minutes have to do with IPv4 adresses

Or was that regarding that badly remembered quote i said

[leaden turret]

oh ipv4 vs 6, yeah that's where my brain went but I wasn't sure

[silk ocean]

A BGP table CIDR routable address that will deliver information ?

[leaden turret]

deploying a web-based planner/calculator with cloudflare in front of it

[unkempt blade]

Computer networking is all witchcraft. We should just send each other disks when we have something to share the way nature intended

[peak vine]

Satisfactory birthday tomorrow 🥳

[silk ocean]

Use v6. I only use v4 because of other people failure to adapt

Sooner we kill v4 the better

[true mulch]

I love unreadable network addresses

couldn't they've just added another octet to IPv4

[silk ocean]

They're not unreadable at all

[true mulch]

I don't care that all of Europe is one subnet, I want to identify my local devices at a glance

[silk ocean]

Nothing to do with Europe lolz

[true mulch]

URIs exist to be human readable, not to be efficient for computers, why make an addressing scheme that is okay for computers but hard to read for humans

[leaden turret]

reminder:

• calculators are #math-and-meta
• network protocols are #off-topic-tech

[true mulch]

yeah sorry

[silk ocean]

IPv6 is going to replace it, and soon, so get used to it

[unkempt blade]

yeah and factory carts are #satisfactory !

[silk ocean]

and when you start to learn it, you will discover it is lightyears better

[unkempt blade]

unless anyone needs help with a cartifold setup then we can take it to #math-and-meta

[silk ocean]

When you go IPv6, you never go back

[unkempt blade]

so I really like my corkscrews for trains to change vertical height for the tracks but what I really wish I had was a way to do circular ramps for vehicles that both looked nice and my carts could actually navigate

the ones that work at all are super boxy and even those are annoying to record routes on

[glacial inlet]

Anyone wanna create a new factory with me? Im bored and normally just playing ark. And i wanna get back into satisfactory

[fossil ice]

Hello there totally awesome user! You can checkout #1201555265942724758 and check the pins on how to find folks to play with. <3

[tame marlin]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/553550313533997057/1414975972897456259/image.png?ex=68c18690&is=68c03510&hm=878a87b6c5d7ee42db8493a62763a878a96ebafd239849cd492120b5536e381f&
is the place with nitrogen much more recommended or is wtv? to start working with oil

[silk ocean]

IPv6?

[austere lichen]

the place with nitrogen is very nice to make rocket fuel later on the top left one is just fine if you start out making stuff from oil

[gaunt tulip]

You should post this also on the Official Reddit as some players don't use Discord.

[gritty zealot]

IN GAME EVENT??

[leaden turret]

@obsidian zodiac dare you to deliberately not post it on twitter because who needs that trashfire 😛

[obsidian zodiac]

ill have to fight emmet over that, hes got the twitter fingers around here

[steady glade]

i thought the event was already over

[raven hollow]

Anyone else having problems with no-gpu-utilization after 1.1.1.4?

[spice patio]

Probably just reporting error from Nvidia drivers to Task Manager.

[haughty wyvern]

hey are there any good ways to set up a truck station to handle a few different resources, or will it always screw with me? I can handle the trucks, but the belt/buffer work escapes me

and building one truck station per resource seems like a defeat

[leaden turret]

||if there's a live-streamed traffic camera in skovde, go do semaphore in front of it instead of posting on twitter ||

[hard ivy]

That is exactly what I'd suggest

[obsidian zodiac]

starts tomorrow and ends on a date that isnt tomorrow 👍

[steady glade]

oooh cool

[silk ocean]

Can we get some server love? xD

I can share a cute little kitten if it helps xD

Like a UI manager for users

Can do 2 kittens for that

[haughty wyvern]

Yeah, this is deffo the easy way

[bronze oriole]

does any1 know if the hog with the jetpack is still in the game

[haughty wyvern]

and it's the only way I'd ever do trains... but I am determined to give a 2-3 input truck station a go and see if I can make it smooth

[obsidian zodiac]

while i cant promise that, that does sound cool. im planning on making a dedicated server video in the next couple months, just gotta sync up properly with the right folks here and see whats going on

[silk ocean]

That sounds great, I'll keep an eye out 🙂

[leaden turret]

still wanting that dedicated server buildable in the awesome shop (maybe only if the game is running on dedicated server? :P)

[hard ivy]

the only way I do trains is 1 entire station per item, not even 1 platform

[haughty wyvern]

That'd be a bit tight for my needs, stations already eat up a shocking % of my total floor space

[hard ivy]

my U8 nuke plant was like 1/4 stations by footprint lmao

[haughty wyvern]

they do hog space

6x6 is the smallest turn I try to allow myself too which doesnt help

[reef basin]

finally someone who doesn't spam the horrendous 3x3 turns

[limpid cairn]

whats wrong with 3x3 turns

[dense violet]

they aren't 2.75x2.75 turns

[feral geyser]

Is there anything wrong with 3×3 turns? Nein

😏

[limpid cairn]

good one

[restive river]

Imagine more circular rotation instead of gridlike rotation

When mouse wheeling

Like buildings

[feral geyser]

Yeah, I'd like that.

[restive river]

Like I can see that snapping is nice but it is really hard sometimes

[coral glacier]

Bazinga

[glad drum]

Holy crap guys, I have some amazing news - My fiance is willing to try Satisfactory!!

I'm trying not to overwhelm her - she's more of a Sims/Minecraft -gamer type, but anyone got some tips to ease her in or make sure she focuses more on the creative aspects rather than the math/technical side?

[coral glacier]

An already plus, she's a gamer

🔥

[feral geyser]

Make sure she has a ton of concrete and plates at her disposal.

[rustic hare]

if she liked minecraft, esp redstone or technical minecraft, this game is gonna be like a hook

[feral geyser]

Get her equipment to go exploring safely, that part of the game is really fun for new players

[silk ocean]

You are marrying someome that is "permitting" you to play satisfactory. Get rid ASAP xD

It's only going to end in disappointment

[rustic hare]

does ficsit have a service hotline for that?

[coral glacier]

Along with a hazmat and suitable filters

[glad drum]

Nah she liked collecting the pets and building cute houses.... so I should definitely make sure she knows about Lizard Doggos.

[silk ocean]

I'll tell you what FICSIT has for this --> DIVORCE xD

[glad drum]

Good idea - She did say the game looks really beautiful (just doesnt like the mathy-industrial-ness necessarily)

[limpid cairn]

dont spaghetti her

[coral glacier]

We must know her thoughts on Mr.bean

[glad drum]

LOL I won't, I'll have to curb my spaghetti for her sake. She won't have an idea what the hell is going on

[feral geyser]

Lean into that then, see if you can go hard drive hunting or slug snatching together

[coral glacier]

cough cough spitter dodging cough cough

[silk ocean]

Get rid, best advice xD

[coral glacier]

Spitter: "I cast Fireball"

[limpid cairn]

idk if shes into building and stuff but cant you technically let her deisng the builds and you build the stuff inside (machines belts etc)?

[glad drum]

That's a great idea - have hypertubes/train to go visit the slug terrarium area

[cunning siren]

Had a GF that I would play Stardew Valley with 🤔 This game is the same thing right? 😆

[feral geyser]

There are definitely valleys, I can say that

[silk ocean]

Stadew is something

[coral glacier]

And Stardew (Nuclear PastA)

[glad drum]

Too bad Satisfactory doesn't have some sort of farming - it'd help draw her in a bit - but it does kinda go against the spirit of the game (EXPLOIT)

[cunning siren]

Well... ya gotta farm bio at the start

[coral glacier]

You "Farm" resources! >:D

[leaden turret]

a: there's a mod for that
b: CSS are open to the idea of a built-in one

[fluid sapphire]

satisfactory valley

[carmine aspen]

You are exploiting the land for its nutrients

[leaden turret]

somerdew valley

[glad drum]

Oh yeah? That'd be cool - some sort of greenhouse for the nuts/berries and bacon shrooms would be nice

[leaden turret]

mod has that, iirc

[coral glacier]

Satisdew Starfactory

[feral geyser]

Vanilla Greenhouses mods

Combine it with Automated Inhalers

[silk ocean]

Sorry to say but if you marry, you are a fool xD Don't do children, do AMD, NVIDIA, Intel

[glad drum]

We already have a son - best manual crafting I've ever done

[cunning siren]

I found "exploits" to farming starting bio. <Mouse over leaf harvestable hit E+TAB, move to next harvestable then hit TAB again>. This bugs the E key and "holds it down" so auto grab all ground bio spawns while runing around :-p

[silk ocean]

You already failed at step 1

[glad drum]

Yeah you right I shoulda automated the process

[coral glacier]

Thing is, you have to make constant repairs and it doesn't automate. And also costs more over time.

[silk ocean]

You should have done, there is tech to do this

[feral geyser]

You could automate it, but there are ethical concerns

[silk ocean]

Who cares about the woke brigade

[fluid sapphire]

ethics is not a term in ficsit employee dictionary

[feral geyser]

Fair

[silk ocean]

Most humans, and children as we call them, are brought up in poverty. They are not cared for, at least not to my standards

[cunning siren]

Phase 2... com.... plete

[feral geyser]

Can us clones even reproduce?

[cunning siren]

Jetpack time ❤️

[limpid cairn]

only one way to find out...

read the manual!

[glad drum]

He's just not old enough to enjoy Satisfactory yet 🙁

[silk ocean]

If I were to foster or bring up a cat or a child, it would be a non-trivial operation. The best care, the best education. People don't think about this

[silk ocean]

Well yes I'd get her/him fishing in WoW xD

[glad drum]

Cat-ducation?

[silk ocean]

For sure.. dinner is ready? Oh you didn't get 800 yet? Dinner will be in the microwave xD

[coral glacier]

That isn't, Satisfactory.

[silk ocean]

It's a bit like World of Warcraft xD

[glad drum]

#screenshots message --- Satisfactory in World of Warcraft? 😉

[limpid cairn]

There’s no enjoyment, next time you restart let him handcraft most parts, WITHOUT using the spacebar

[silk ocean]

Could be a mod for that XD

[leaden turret]

get yourself some peons in #1201555265942724758

[cunning siren]

AND crafting bench volume at 100%

[silk ocean]

I run my own servers xD

[unkempt blade]

Peons makes it sound bad. I like to think of them as human factory carts

[limpid cairn]

what a surprise

Ngl you should go outside more

[silk ocean]

Shocking xD

[limpid cairn]

you won’t believe how beautiful it is outside

[silk ocean]

Worst video game every.. outside xD

[unkempt blade]

I can't right now. I'm technically in core hours for work

[limpid cairn]

It’s just like… satisfactory

[coral glacier]

It's very satisfactory indeed.

[cunning siren]

The HD in IRL is pretty OP

[reef basin]

they look super horrible and unrealistic (to me)

[silk ocean]

I ave seen a lot of the outside

[coral glacier]

HD?

[cunning siren]

High Definition

[unkempt blade]

yeah but I heard there are bears out there and I'm allergic

[limpid cairn]

accidentally fall down the stairs and magically sprain your pinkie finger

[silk ocean]

You can guess what I have done for 22 years xD

[coral glacier]

Reality has a higher quality than HD, because as HD is for describing the resolution of pixels on a TV, that doesn't apply since IRL is the environment that Televisions are made in. Haha.

[unkempt blade]

That won't work anymore. I just yell at an NLP to drive my IDE which is mostly just claude doing my work for me. That's why I have so much time for evangelizing the good word of factory carts

[void cliff]

If only playing satisfactory paid real money xD

[cunning siren]

I agree: Atomic level HD > pixels on a screen <That is the joke>

[trim vine]

-stares at Kibitz-

[unkempt blade]

The key is to get a remote job and set low expectations from day 1. Then you'll have most of a work day to play with trains

[void cliff]

Pretty much where I’m at actually, lol. I feel like I’ll get fired eventually, anyway

[west verge]

I did that on Friday hahaha

[coral glacier]

That's the best part, the "resolution" isn't just by atomic scale, it goes all the way down to the subatomic particles and the fabric of reality itself on which said subatomic particles behave with. :D

[mystic oriole]

just want to say Happy Birthday to Satisfactory with their 1.0 launch.

[west verge]

Clock in ✅
Send 2 emails ✅
Clock in to factory ✅

[coral glacier]

When does satisfactory come out with atomic fusion reactors?

:)

[limpid cairn]

When irl people make a functional one

[mystic oriole]

When we have to pipe the geothermal, ionized gas and ficonium fuel into it to make more enegy.

[unkempt blade]

It's amazing how far being active on slack will go for perceived effort. No one has ever done a good job measuring actual output for engineering teams I've been on

[void cliff]

Belt speed limiters would be so nice for using sushi belts, but idk, I don’t want to use mods

[plain gate]

you can do that with splitter arrays

[west verge]

It’s even better when you don’t use slack or Microsoft teams.. I’ve let my computer fully turn off XD

[mystic oriole]

just say no to microsoft

[limpid cairn]

Guys what is our opinion on alcohol + satisfactory?

[west verge]

I do on my personal machine :D I have a little home server I’m learning Linux and su ch on

[mystic oriole]

here's another controvercial idea, say no to QWERTY

[sullen gull]

Dvorak all the way! 😏

[mystic oriole]

CharaChorder for me

[west verge]

… what is the alternative?

[limpid cairn]

azerty

the French one.

[mystic oriole]

that and controller

[west verge]

Oh I’ve never seen a French keyboard

[limpid cairn]

Why don’t we use abcdef keyboards…

[fluid sapphire]

not ergonomic at all

[mystic oriole]

the very act of having to use single switches for a keyboard is archaic. We have better HID's than a glorified typewriter.

[plain gate]

single switches? wdym by that

[mystic oriole]

push button for single letter switch

[plain gate]

whats the alternative

[mystic oriole]

lol, lots of alternatives.

Example my keyboard here I press the equivelent to t and h at the same time the output is that

great for typing.

but I've been looking into ecg devices.

[plain gate]

how do you type this then

[mystic oriole]

this is this at the same time

the is t and e at the same time

[plain gate]

what wpm can you reach with that

[mystic oriole]

theoredically 900

[sullen gull]

2

[plain gate]

in practice?

[sharp cairn]

3 for me

[mystic oriole]

about 300

[sullen gull]

show-off 😏

[mystic oriole]

me about 80

still learning

[sullen gull]

I ran with a dvorak layout for a long time. But it got a bit old having to recomfigure each keyboard I got and also switching back to qwerty with other's/work computer and such.

[mystic oriole]

I went Dvorak as well before switching to CC1

[cunning siren]

It's funny how you can setup 1 factory to produce a thing then, AFK idle game it for 12 hours... all set 😆

[mystic oriole]

lol hell yeah, been there @cunning siren

[nova lantern]

manifolds works with fluids right?

[cunning siren]

I'm gimping at 600 MW with 3 batteries 😆 phase 3... meh... it's all good, lazy mode idle gaming

[sullen gull]

A bit differently than belts, as liquids can move both directions with pipes.

[mystic oriole]

yes, but remember to reset your pipes once the juction is made

[nova lantern]

Reset pipe?

like clear it?

[mystic oriole]

most put down the main pipe and then juctions. clear the main pipe and then reconnect each juction

[feral geyser]

Why does that matter?

[mystic oriole]

maths of the fluid

[sullen gull]

If you place a junction or pump onto an exisiting pipe, it's 'best practice' to delete the pipe after placing and building it to the ends of what was placed.

[feral geyser]

Details needed

[mystic oriole]

do the same with pumps

[feral geyser]

Why does that matter

[sullen gull]

It's a hit or miss, but some say it can "bug out"

[nova lantern]

so I make a pipe

place the junctions

Delete the pipes, and place them the way I want them to go?

[feral geyser]

In what way?

[mystic oriole]

bitz did a video on what to do and why

[sullen gull]

Well, with belts and spliitters/mergers, some have said that parts can "jump" the other outputs. Personally I have not seen this, but not to say there isn't a potential I guess

[feral geyser]

I haven't seen that video, so summarize

[feral geyser]

We were talking about pipes, right?

[sullen gull]

Just look up the video lol, we have summarized 🙂

[mystic oriole]

yes pipes

[sullen gull]

Yes, same principle with pipes.

Again, I have never personally seen it happen in my saves... but again, YMMV

Gah, lunch is never long enough ... back to work.

[feral geyser]

This has never happened, and unless someone has documentation of it, makes no sense. Also doesn't apply to pipes.

[feral geyser]

You can just place junctions on pipes, there is no issue.

[sullen gull]

I feel it's an EA bug that some still "worry about" imo

[keen jacinth]

producing 833m^3 per min, power or drone station?

rocket fuel

[feral geyser]

Both? Use what you can for power, minus 2 gens, then pack the rest?

[keen jacinth]

i mean

with what i have i could have 200 fuel gens, but i do need drones

[sharp cairn]

Not me waiting half an hour for the game to finish a patch smh

[keen jacinth]

so probably like, 50 or 100 gens and rest for drones

[feral geyser]

Or, 180 gens, and the rest for drones

[mystic oriole]

Yes you can just do so, but there will be times you wont get good throughput out of your pipe

[feral geyser]

Why

You haven't explained

[mystic oriole]

watch Bitz video

[feral geyser]

No

Explain it

[sharp cairn]

why not watch bitz

[sullen gull]

Laziness

[mystic oriole]

It's a math issue, uneven pipe lengths even for the same length of pipe

[cunning siren]

Is crash site side loot random or is the same loot there every game? 🤔 DO want a few computers to buy manual depot uploader and sloopage upgrades AND don't want to build plastics / rubber for it 😭

[feral geyser]

Cuz a) i ain't giving anyone my ad revenue, and b) if you're repeating it, you should understand it, and if you don't, you shouldn't be repeating it.

[sullen gull]

I believe same

[feral geyser]

What??

[mystic oriole]

yes, same length of pipe is longer

longer pipe holds more fluid

[feral geyser]

Yes I get that

[silk ocean]

@shy mulch You'd probably never guess what I am into xD

[sharp cairn]

heaven forbid somebody make ad revenue off of teaching you something for otherwise free

[cunning siren]

Time to find a way to find where the ground spawn for computers and circuit boards may be 😆

[mystic oriole]

make a pi hole and never bother with ads again

[plain gate]

adblocker :p no ads for anyone

[sharp cairn]

i think they're upset that bitz makes money off of making youtube videos, not that they have to watch ads

[plain gate]

iiiii don't think piholes can block youtube ads

[feral geyser]

So i'm gonna assume since no one can actually explain what's wrong with placing junctions on a pipe, that that is some superstitious mumbo jumbo and means nothing.

[mystic oriole]

we did

[west verge]

AGH instead

[feral geyser]

No, you just said it was a "math thing"

[west verge]

😝

[sharp cairn]

assume whatever you want bud. u got ur answer in the form of a video and you refused to accept it

[feral geyser]

And said longer pipes hold more fluid

[cunning siren]

Anybody know if SCIMs can show all ground spawn items like around crash sites 🤔?

[plain gate]

no

[sharp cairn]

SCIM?

[feral geyser]

Does he even explain it in the video, or do they just say "it's a math thing" as well?

It would explain why no one has given an actual explanation

[plain gate]

scim only shows buildings

and consumables

[sharp cairn]

idk i didnt watch the video because i dont care

[mystic oriole]

he doesn't just explain in the video he shows it as well. Watch the video

[cunning siren]

satisfactory-calculator.com/en/interactive-map

[west verge]

Does everyone just argue in this discord?

“I have a question”
“Gives answer”
“Gives answer 2”

Now all 3 people are arguing

[upper gale]

It doesn't but it really should.. it would be so helpful

[mystic oriole]

I'm betting so

[plain gate]

welcome to math and meta

[sharp cairn]

this is general

[topaz shale]

Finally got phase 4 parts being made. Very excellent.

[west verge]

Yeah I saw that guy from this morning in there too XD

[feral geyser]

I thought it was a Wendy's

[sharp cairn]

oh i guess i missed something

[void rivet]

I need help, Im trying to play with my friend in a server together, we both are using steam and we cant figure out how to get into the game together. I havfe the session id but idk what to do with it

[topaz shale]

Once I'm in phase 5, I'm just going to expand my power to have the ionised fuel.

[feral geyser]

Type it in on the Join Game tab

[cunning siren]

It looks like it does! Under "dropped items", the caveat seems to be that you have to explore that area first for it to show up 😭

[feral geyser]

No video link has been provided

Y'all like to say something has "been answered" while giving nothing of substance

[sharp cairn]

u said u wont watch it

[upper gale]

Ohh okay at least that's better than nothing, thanks

[sharp cairn]

oml move on

[feral geyser]

Since y'all won't answer, I've decided to try

I want an answer

[upper gale]

• Arguments over opinion
• Actual helpful tips
• Someone complaining about pipes
  This server in a nutshell

[cunning siren]

I've got jetpack, should be pretty quick work once I get some liquid biofuel up and running

[sharp cairn]

oh look a quick youtube search and i found it

[west verge]

I’ve noticed it seems fun

[sharp cairn]

can i post links in this server?

[feral geyser]

I think

[steady glade]

not really

[west verge]

I’ve also realized the guy that @sharp cairn is arguing with didn’t even originally ask the original question he just chimed in 😭😭😭

[steady glade]

not unless the site is approved

[feral geyser]

Cuz i had a question

[sharp cairn]

https://youtu.be/cuSlYLebSAE?si=bxN_g9zVvQxkoRga

[void rivet]

it says session lookup failure

[sharp cairn]

pls dont ban me

[steady glade]

thats cool, if it wasn't your link would be deleted

[feral geyser]

Un yeah, I ain't watching 40 fuckin minutes

[sharp cairn]

shocker

[feral geyser]

What section is it in

[sharp cairn]

i do not care

[feral geyser]

Then fuck off

[sharp cairn]

k

[feral geyser]

Any clue where in this documentary the claim you make is addressed?

[sharp cairn]

yay my updates finally done :D

[leaden turret]

• Be kind and respectful to others.
#rules

[sharp cairn]

^

[topaz shale]

It's still a nice video to watch, regardless.

Can throw it on while you play

[sharp cairn]

I like Bitz

[steady glade]

i saw that vid, it's good, ill sum up the main point for you

[feral geyser]

The section i found where he addressed rebuilding pipes, involves the multiple small segments generated by auto-connect

[west verge]

You are a very angry man over asking a question about a video game that you could likely just google

[steady glade]

• dont snap junctions, pumps or valaves to pipes, do the opposite
• its better to put pumps at the bottom where you're certain water reaches rather than way up at the headlift limit

[feral geyser]

My question this whole time has been, with regards to the first one, why?

What reason for doing that

[steady glade]

• the rest is a long test of 2 fuel factories showing that snapping junctions to pipes makes irregular sectionsm causing throughput to be hindered compared to the 'clean' model

[steady glade]

i wouldn't know, i didnt follow the previous argument

[feral geyser]

How does multiple irregular segments hinder throughput compared to a single segment?

[leaden turret]

snap-to-grid is consistent
snap-to-pixel is not

[feral geyser]

You are explaining how irregular segments happen

[steady glade]

by snapping a junction to a pipe, you create sections that dont always have the same volume over the length of a manifold, plus the pipes will actually partlyt clip into the junctions, making them longer than needed, combined with the fact that the junction itself has its own buffer, the piping is messed up, unbalanced

[feral geyser]

I'm asking how they affect flow

[leaden turret]

inconsistent splooshing compared to a casually-visually-identical pipe

[steady glade]

and since the game moves fluids over time, those irregular pipes that need to fill up first before the machines will essentially cripple the whole system, stopping it from reaching full throughput

[steady glade]

long story short, its like making spaghetti with a knotted, gangly, leaking pipe and wondering where the water went

[leaden turret]

short story shorter, skill issue because math

[mystic oriole]

I sent you a DM

[feral geyser]

So i get how it can affect the volumes of the pipes, but I don't understand how flow rates is affected at all

Sure, larger volumes can cause longer fill times.

[leaden turret]

💧🔨 = bad

[feral geyser]

I get that too, but in what way do larger volume pipes cause or exacerbate water hammer?

[west verge]

The volume directly changes the flow rate of the pipes. More volume = more pressure = more flow, since physics are coded into this game water hammer REALLY fucks with flow

[leaden turret]

-# 💧🔨
not as bad as
💧🔨

[feral geyser]

Useless

[feral geyser]

Also not helpful

[hollow vector]

hammer cannot smash water?

yes helpful i see

[leaden turret]

tiny water hammer not as bad as huge water hammer

[feral geyser]

Hmmm

[steady glade]

imaging you place a junction, then have 2 pipes on either side with 20m3 of volume, when you instead place the junction on the pipe, you instead have 2 pipes of 28m3 each, now your machines have to fill up 56 per minute (with the 10m3 of the junction) instead of 50, then some machine down the line pulls off, let's say 30m3 per minute, over the length of 2 manifolds (output and input), that imbalance takes extremely long to account for. that's why often on systems making full use of the 600m3 throughput, the end machines are starved even though the imput pipe says it's delivering at 600m3/m

[hollow vector]

true.

[steady glade]

the idea is that the fluid at the start of the manifold will back up because so many uneeded small buffers are on the line and will transfer water as needed to the early machines in the manifold, while the last machines will be starved for an extremely long time

[feral geyser]

Hmmm, that seems like it would only be a problem on empty pipes

[steady glade]

even a clean manifold will take up 30m/1h to stabilize (fuel example from the video), imagine just how long a messed up piping will take to stabilize, if it ever does

[pallid tide]

Can someone help me troubleshoot fluids?

Trying to build beeg diluted fuel system. Making lots of HOR and have correct math for what should be a full pipe. Only getting 570-580. All refs feed into one pipe (series?). There is a slight rise at the end of all the refs and I have a mk1 pump on it.

Any ideas? I am unable to provide a screenshot rn but wanted to see if this is enough to go on.

[leaden turret]

flow in empty pipe just keeps going. water hammer makes flow go backwards

[steady glade]

the pipes at the end will be empty but i meant that even on full 600m3 pipes won't properly feed a manifold if a bunch of small buffers on the line empty and fill themselves irregularly

[mystic oriole]

we were just discussing this issue. Have you tried resetting your pipes?

[pallid tide]

Doing a full network flush? no I can try it.

[feral geyser]

I'm sorry if it seems like i'm being difficult, but there is something I'm still not seeing here.

[reef basin]

usually buffers in fluid systems do more harm than good

[past robin]

I have laid one floor of 144 fuel generators, only 11 more floors to go

[zenith pecan]

You not overclocking the generators?

[mystic oriole]

no deleting the main pipe and connecting them again

[past robin]

nope

[pallid tide]

I'll give it a shot

[silk ocean]

26 to 28 mins xD

[zenith pecan]

Ow man just ouch, building 720 was bad enough, they are overclocked at 240%, because there is no way I'd want to build 1728 of them.

[mystic oriole]

this is also a common problem with autoconnecting pipes in blueprints.

[steady glade]

tonight before sleeping, try playing that video, play the fuel plant part on 2x because he'll genuinely go over the numbers on each and every single pipe section to demonstrate his point

[past robin]

its gonna look really cool

I put floor one in #screenshots

[abstract heron]

hi all

[zenith pecan]

This is what mine looks like #satisfactory-experimental message

[naive orchid]

i finally managed to automate turbo motors 90 hours in nice

[past robin]

i'm laying the stuff first, gonna make it look better later

gotta make the whole factory look better later

[zenith pecan]

It took me ages to build the curtain walls, I got the power running and the byproducts dealt with first, 240 rubber/plastic & 4800 steel ingots 😄

[feral geyser]

YOU are a pleasure, cuz even though I'm still confused, you took the time and actually know what you're talking about, rather than just saying "cuz math." Cuz none of this shit is perfectly intuitive, but also, I don't think I've ever had these problems hit me in my game, so I genuinely don't understand.

[past robin]

lemme get a high up screenshot of the factory quick

[feral geyser]

I avoid working at max pipe/belt capacity at all times.

[mystic oriole]

Yes thanks, I'm at work so I don't really have a ton of time to explain

[sterile blade]

In additions to the points already mentioned, the game can act "weird" when very short pipe segments are used, which can compound the flow issues. When placing junctions close to the end of pipe segments, it's relatively easy to make pipe segments that are too short (ie: if you can't rebuild the segment without using specific piping modes, the segment is likely "too short")

[steady glade]

you're welcome, i took the time of explaining it because that video became my new testament in terms of piping, with the ficsit manual as the old one, it essentially deleted 80% of my throughput issues

the last issues for me are floor/wall holes and slight elevation issues

[south furnace]

[feral geyser]

This, I do know, so i always just clip those off or rearrange to avoid too short of sections.

[naive orchid]

pls anwsers #screenshots message