satisfactory

[rugged ore]

well what are you missing

[dim flint]

Batteries and Control Rods.

Control rods are also going to be in a wing of the electronics factory, since they need computers.

Oh and my iron wire.

Basically, I go on little building sprees. Then I tend to sit back and clean up random other things before going back and inspecting things.

I just discovered that I forgot to hook up half of my aluminum smelters >.<

[heavy pine]

Isn't that always a joy? You finish a large build but forgot one tiny thing, like a Mk.1 belt where there should be a Mk.5, or some missing pipes, or whatever.

[mint elm]

Hey somebody lend me a hand here cause im struggling with the math. Please dont be mean if my math is wrong, I am not great at math

I have a source caterium with 540 ore per minute that I've turned into 6 smelters to give me 540 ignots/ minute. (6 smelters doing 90 per minute)

I want to turn the 540 ingots per minute into 2 lines of quickwire.
One for storage, and another for high speed connectors.
To get my line of high speed connectors I need a total of 210 quickwire per second.

Im struggling with the constructer math to path the ignots correctly

[dim flint]

The joy right now is pretending I don't need to build 68 more refineries.

[hard ivy]

umm 540 caterium ore turns into 180 ingots when smelted

[mint elm]

Please see i am not good at math

[dim flint]

Just add up the productions.

[mint elm]

Oh right. Its 3 per not 1 per

[hard ivy]

I don't think that's a math issue. I think it's a "you didn't look at the recipe" issue

[mint elm]

Okay thanks

[dim flint]

Senny, https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production might also help you visualize things if you're bad at keeping a lot of numbers in your head.

[heavy pine]

Unless you're using the Pure Caterium alt recipe, then it's 2 ore to 1 ingot. But you need water and refineries for that.

[dim flint]

I've traded so much factory space for more efficient ore production.

Pure recipes are great tho

[mint elm]

Oh dude thank you so much. Keeping numbers in the noggin is the hardest thing.

[dim flint]

the tool is pretty intuitive. GL

[unkempt blade]

you get good at math with practice though 😄

[limpid cairn]

is there a known bug with conflicted block entry signal types?

[hard ivy]

no, there's a bug with signal loops into itself

[limpid cairn]

ah i fixed it

[green crypt]

How does one 'zoop'? I open build mode, hold R, and I get to choose between... default. And nothing else.

[hard ivy]

only some things are zoopable

[flint aspen]

Depends on what item you’re building you can’t always zoop

[limpid cairn]

only foundations, walls & some stuff from the architecture are zoopable

[green crypt]

ahh

[hard ivy]

stackable poles, ladders and probably a few other things are zoopable too

[feral geyser]

Also railings

Catwalks

Pillars

[green crypt]

Thanks

[unkempt blade]

yeah but also zooping is just a crutch for people who don't have the sheer skill necessary to laboriously place every single piece individually

[limpid cairn]

i did that with my first ever "big" factory

[quick verge]

Im trying to build a curve foundation using this technique....I get the first curved block fine, but after that I cant tell exactly where he is rotating it from. It doesnt seem to work exactly the same way. as the first non curved block. Is there an easier way? https://youtu.be/QO3rQYbZb2E?si=gFiMUwQySzz72zDX&t=1358

[sharp plinth]

My friend has to leave and rejoin to receive unlocks whilst myself and the other player don't is this a known desync issue and is there a fix?

[green crypt]

I heard that this was a core statement of philosophy from the devs

The reason we don't get big blueprints

I suspect some amount of roleplay as FICSIT is involved.

[coral glacier]

Plankton: "MOLECULE BY MOLECULE, ATOM BY ATOM"

[limpid cairn]

t3 miners are so nice wtf

[coral glacier]

t3?

[limpid cairn]

Tier 3

[rustic hare]

until you plop them on a pure node, full OC and realize your current mk5 belt can't transport the max rate

[limpid cairn]

When do you even unlock mk6 belts

[coral glacier]

tier 9

i think

[rustic hare]

last tier I remember, your mk3 on pure node will be handicapped until you got mk6 belts

[dim dock]

Hi again. I noticed an issue of trains derailing where track intersections used to be? say i removed a track from a branchout, and now it's just 1:1, the train is derailing there. Is this a known issue?

[true mulch]

rebuild the track

it's probably just visually in the same place but not actually connected

[dim dock]

rebooting the game fixed it. but the arrow signs are still there. on a 1:1 they shouldn't be.

[dim dock]

i removed a track. i didn't build one. it shouldn't be disconnected.

[small notch]

40 hours in and I’m about 30 mins of completing phase 2 finally

[true mulch]

that can still break things

there definitely shouldn't be a switch lever

[severe plover]

do fluid pipes lose pressure when travelling in a straight line?

[small notch]

I think it does after going straight for a while

[severe plover]

ahh okay

[hollow tartan]

what do you mean lose pressure?

[severe plover]

sorry flow rate

[hollow tartan]

they shouldn't no

[shy mulch]

I'm not a fan of that technique. When I make circles I pick a centre point and zoop out from there, a row of each angle, then delete the intermediate foundations to leave just the curve in place

[severe plover]

aka if i have a water pipe going in a long line with an input of 300 flow rate would that flow rate deteriate over that long straighbt pipe?

[hollow tartan]

flow rate in should = flow rate out

[severe plover]

okiedokie

only time it loses pressure is if you change elevation then

or fluids are removed

[hollow tartan]

elevation should be the only hinderance

ye

[severe plover]

sweet ty

[upper gale]

Elevation going up. But you already know down is all good

[hollow tartan]

np, also quick tip if you haven't seen when you attach a pump to your pipe line, it will visually show head lift in the direction of the pump

[hollow tartan]

yea good to learn how to use "water tower" method for fluid distribution

[dim dock]

yeah. i dont remember this being an issue when 1.0 freshly released. But considering track building got an overhaul, a lot of bugs popped up around the time (like the constant z-fighting at intersections and in some platforms).

I probably should make a post about all those issues in the Q&A forum.

[solid storm]

Using a controller, how do you switch what your looking for on the object scanner?

[true mulch]

1.1 overhauled the track building system and introduced a lot of currently unpatched bugs

party due to the devs being on vacation

[dim dock]

i see

i was pretty busy at the time myself so i wasn't keeping up with the news

[atomic notch]

Right trigger iirc

[solid storm]

thank you

[dim dock]

how's the experience using a controller? i tried but once used to pc, it's definitely more difficult on the controller.

[keen crane]

building a base over a gigantic abyss 👍

[rustic hare]

the kibitz hole or some other edge?

[dim dock]

he got a hole named after his channel?

[solid storm]

I don't find it difficult at all, then again, my laptop is off to the side of me, so I kinda have to use a controller.

[rustic hare]

I just named the hole with his channel name since he built a mega factory down there I don't assume everyone knows it, which is also a good convo starter

[deep pier]

what do I do if I am stuck?

[rustic hare]

try to relog, else -> respawn

[tall lantern]

realise you're not stuck and solve it

[hard ivy]

respawn

[tall lantern]

stuck with what, progression or location?

[deep pier]

will respawning make me lose my items?

[dim dock]

good name 😅

[tall lantern]

turn on keep inventory before respawning

[deep pier]

like I parachuted to a place but I can't get out and got nothing to build with

[hard ivy]

depends on your settings

[dim dock]

no jetpack?

[upper gale]

Can you activate the parachute again?

[rustic hare]

been spamming different sized belt balancers like daily recently

[upper gale]

This is the real answer though lol

[atomic notch]

U cant get ladders?

[true mulch]

you can always just load an old autosave

provided it's recent enough

[solid storm]

you can buy the plans for them at the awesome shop

[true mulch]

stackable poles work as ladders too

and you have those from the start

[atomic notch]

Lol ik

[unkempt blade]

Yeah I do remember there being some friction for blueprints along those lines too. But here we are today with 5x5x5s 😄

[dim dock]

or place a foundation, bio-genny, and then hoverpack out. i've never tried this before. could be fun

[hard ivy]

my man :)

[desert bridge]

best alt recipe for HMF's?

[hard ivy]

encased

[atomic notch]

Flexible

[tall lantern]

depends what resources you have, just like every recipe

[dim dock]

my favorite is heavy encased frame

[rustic hare]

I got 6 to 8, 6 to 6, x to 4, x to 3, x to 2, what more do you suggest

[tall lantern]

for an initial factory though, I do also like encased

[hard ivy]

with HMFs, not really

[dim dock]

with the right alt recipes you can make it with just iron-ore and limestone

[desert bridge]

i have both of the hmf ones

[peak wasp]

hello, where you use the powershard?

because i continue a no use it for future use but i think is a good idea used on the refinery for copper ingot etc

[desert bridge]

unless theres more than 2

[atomic notch]

With the right recipes you can use more screws

[unkempt blade]

whichever one uses the most screws

[atomic notch]

Bolted plates bolted frames

[rustic hare]

let the carts craft and transport it 😂

[atomic notch]

All the way man

[rustic hare]

on the harvesters, besides water, I shard every harvester to max

[unkempt blade]

yeah carts are pretty good at moving large stack size items so they'd be perfect with screws!

[hard ivy]

whatever you need. I make my balancer BPs when I that many belts in and out. I don't make them in advance

[peak wasp]

oh yes on miner!

[dim dock]

i love my pc too much to unleash this monstrocity upon it 🥲

[atomic notch]

Get like 20 carts movin screws

[keen crane]

to the left of the kibitz hole

[unkempt blade]

Maybe instead of rolling dice to pick recipes I'll just always pick the one with the most screws. That seems fun

[dim dock]

they tiny. would look fun.

[reef basin]

depends on situation

[rustic hare]

this man knows the kibitz hole! 🤣

[hearty plank]

anyone here feel like helping me run this game on my potato...? 😅

[unkempt blade]

that's an awfully wishy washy way to say "the recipe with the most screws"

[rustic hare]

rate your potato quality from 1 to 5, with 5 being $$$ and 1 being -$

[unkempt blade]

I've heard good things about using old pizza boxes for some extra processing power

[hearty plank]

uhm

price when bought: $$
actual ability: 1.5

[hard ivy]

you could at least make your comment useful by suggesting people to figure that out using your calculator

[dim dock]

just go to the lowest preset first. disable every video feature, and set resolution to 1280x720. then go upwards from there depending on what you would like to see.

[harsh thorn]

bro how do i make a game

[dim dock]

start with an unreal engine tutorial

[tall lantern]

all that'd tell you is which one uses the lowest globally weighted resources

[harsh thorn]

nvm

[reef basin]

that's advertising

[true mulch]

ideally make a #1038092680493801533 post with your PC specs (CPU, GPU, RAM)

[hard ivy]

you can toggle recipes to compare combinations

[rustic hare]

damn, so I'd guess something near 7th gen i5-i7 and a gtx1050, hard pass, maybe start with turning everything to lowest, cause I couldn't even get decent fps on a 1070ti running low graphics

[hearty plank]

#1404501364318539939

[harsh thorn]

mk50 talks

[hearty plank]

It crashes on game load atm so... yh... fun

[unkempt blade]

Weighted points for resources often undervalue the unparalleled joy you get from 50k screws/min though. Math sometimes lies

[dim dock]

i've played on a 6th gen i3 + 1060

[rustic hare]

reading the thread now, my guess on 7th gen i5-i7 was pretty dang close there 😂

[dim dock]

it should run.

[small notch]

How long did it take u guys from the start of the game to complete phase 2

[hard ivy]

like 30h probably

[potent badge]

1060 what

well really what 1060 since it gtx or gt or rtx before the card number idk

[tall lantern]

are there multiple 1060s?

[rustic hare]

there isn't a rtx1060

[potent badge]

yes there is

i just built it and it cost 3 MILLION vietnamese dong

[tall lantern]

there is not

[upper gale]

I ran it on 1080 before and it ran good but that was some years ago

[rustic hare]

so quick math, $120?

[potent badge]

i ran it on a gt 1030 for most of my time playing satisfactory but then i actually invested money into my pc

[dim dock]

GTX yes.

[tall lantern]

I used to use a 1060 and an i5-8400 and that was fine enough

[dim dock]

however i could run satisfactory with GI at 60% upscale FSR (50~60fps stable)

[rustic hare]

couldn't find the rtx1060, the raytracing series started with 20 I believe

[dim dock]

^

[potent badge]

ryzen 3060

[manic arrow]

do yall ever just mesh conveyors inside of eachother when there somewhere they cant be seen

[rustic hare]

oh dang yeah I forgot fsr existed, works on 10 series cards too?

[rustic hare]

I'll just pretend this didn't happen then ig 😂

[unkempt blade]

that sounds like a slippery slope to a spaghetti tornado

[upper gale]

Nahh I keep them visible so I can edit or fix issues

[manic arrow]

nah its only when its under my factory

[rustic hare]

no, never, I strictly don't do that, it's a slippery slope

[manic arrow]

and i only do it as a last stitch

[upper gale]

For aesthetics though maybe. But I try to keep a way to go down there

[unkempt blade]

one minute you're just hiding some conveyors in a logistics floor and before you know it you've got pasta flying everywhere

[limpid cairn]

But why aren’t you using factory carts for the logistic floor…

[rustic hare]

I just have one massive logistic floor to reroute the lines of my tower to the storage and sink excess, no clipping ever, I don't have any other logistic floors the logistics are visible and I love seeing shit move

[unkempt blade]

the reason you use carts is to see them not to hide them underground!

[limpid cairn]

Sounds like a reason to add glass foundations

[manic arrow]

wait factory carts can actually move things lol?

[manic arrow]

built with silica

[unkempt blade]

one stack at a time but no fuel cost and S-tier cuteness

[limpid cairn]

I wonder when the devs try to host a factory cart race with like 50 people across the map

[rustic hare]

btw if you want it to look wonky with barely circular wheels, just reduce graphics saw the cart on my pc vs my brother's pc today, it's hilarious

[manic arrow]

okay i fixed the belt meshing 😭

my solution wasnt very efficient but its ight

[rustic hare]

you will be loved for non-clipping belt paths

[slate python]

I don’t understand #fan-art message

[rustic hare]

meanwhile there's someone here who builds non-clipping spaghetti

[manic arrow]

https://imgur.com/a/39F5qIj

had to use a vertical conveyor under the building 😭

[unkempt blade]

it's glorious!

[manic arrow]

https://imgur.com/a/PpsyrQZ

[rustic hare]

could be better with factory carts ™

[slate python]

How do you do small text

[rustic hare]

phone keyboard lol

[unkempt blade]

I have the balance my cart evangelism with being super positive about how other people build

[slate python]

Where you make your text miniature

[slate python]

Ya

[dim dock]

yep. 1060 has experimental API for what later became RTX. that's why some of the GI still worked (like i said 50~60 fps on FSR)

[rose lotus]

is it possible to move an elevator's bottom floor upwards while keeping all the stops above it

[rustic hare]

there's a symbol section that has these © ® ™ °

[slate python]

No I mean where it is small

[rustic hare]

oh nice, I got too used to dlss, maybe I should try fsr for my old 1070ti, since it's the same lineup, I assume it also has that API?

[manic arrow]

is it okay if i just straight up stopped producing iron plating as itself?

like besides foundations and t1 conveyors do i need them

[rustic hare]

as long as it doesn't hinder your current progress or factory

[manic arrow]

i use the concrete only foundations so i dont beleive it does

how do i quick trash things out of my inventory?

there has gotta be a keybind

[rustic hare]

there's copious amounts of iron in this world though, beside energy requirements to keep the line running, I don't see why you would want to shut it down

[manic arrow]

true

[slate python]

#screenshots message

[manic arrow]

but belt highways take so long 😭

[rustic hare]

holding ctrl while dragging an item to the trash can will delete all identical items in your inventory

[cunning glade]

Is a circuit factory worth it?

[manic arrow]

tysm

[tall lantern]

almost everything is worth automating

[cunning glade]

I have been debating I wanna do a hmf one and computer

[hard ivy]

they're pretty useless by themseleves so not really

[cunning glade]

So just make them on the spot

I mean I do have a train running rubber and plastic so shouldn't be too bad

[rustic hare]

I feed circuits right into computers and high speed connectors right on the spot, had never depot a circuit

[cunning glade]

I see

[dim dock]

DLSS is probably the best option if you're using NVIDIA. FSR is more 'generic'

[sudden galleon]

dismantle crate has infinite storage now?

[slate python]

Idk

[rustic hare]

I believe so, since you get to choose to make a single, or multiple dismantle crates
and to have only a single crate, it should be near infinite, until the items run out of index of the computer system, or some other low-level limits imposed on the program

[rustic hare]

the 1070ti doesn't have dlss though, so I'll give fsr a try

[sudden galleon]

how can I decide to have multiple?

[lost galleon]

Guys I want to build a highway, is there any simple way do to turns?

I watched a youtube tutorial and the dude had to put like 15 foundations at different angles lol

[dim dock]

yeah that could've been the reason why i used FSR. on 3060 i started with DLSS because it was around the time satisfactory had issues with FSR i think? some fps lag

[rustic hare]

it's somewhere in the settings I remember

[rustic hare]

blueprint it, take the pain once then you get to paste it

[dim dock]

oh right blueprinting is the reason why i headed back to base. i forgot when i got there, and took off again 😎

[lost galleon]

Do you have any Idea where I can find blueprints?

[clear wadi]

can u guys check the screen shot, i need help

🥲

[rustic hare]

I have a blueprint designing spot with 8 floodlights shining on it, no shadow dead spot, as bright as day (actually it's brighter than day)

[narrow cloud]

Guys, i just found a bug, how do i report it ?

[fossil ice]

Satisfactory Questions

You can send Questions, Feedback, Suggestions, and Bug Reports
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com
<3 @hard ivy

[lost galleon]

I am an Idiot and decided to use all of my brainpower to google, sorry y'all its my moms fault for dropping me as a baby

[dim dock]

i recently started building a road network since i'm about to unlock drones. I put the bp-designer in the middle of a roundabout 🥲

[rustic hare]

pretty sure it's saying resource not deep enough

[clear wadi]

but its the same high as the other one 😭

i build platform underneath

[plain gate]

is it just me or are train signals just completely broken now in 1.1

[rustic hare]

that's such a roundabout way to do it

[plain gate]

they display erroneous errors 50% of the time

[rustic hare]

working perfectly fine for me, if it's errors I just smash the road and place back until it's good, then it stays good

[clear wadi]

its doesnt work even when i delete the platform

[solid storm]

How are you guys getting your builds on the map like in this screenshot? Is it a mod?

[rustic hare]

cartographer mod

[solid storm]

https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/553550313533997057/1413231339632853143

[solid storm]

ok, ty

[plain gate]

yeah the signal building just feels weird now too

[hollow tartan]

don't you not need road if you are using drones?

[dim dock]

drones are typically great for megafactory scenarios. for modular setups, drones work more as 'support' as in they facilitate other modes of transport alongside small deliveries

in my case, the drones will be supplying fuel/batteries for the road network

[hollow tartan]

I use drones for everything 🙂

[dim dock]

in modular, battery delivery for drones becomes the big issue.

[rustic hare]

yeah, transporting circuits or computers to a mega factory using a whole train cart is just luxury drones does that way better

[hollow tartan]

rocket fueled drones OP

[mortal ginkgo]

I think whats borked with crossing is that sometimes signal is placed at the wrong location, like 0.0001 inside the crossing instead of being outside.

Doing some manual distancing fixes that, some folks reported

[dim dock]

oh. that's a thing now...

[hollow tartan]

bottled rocket fuel goes into drones yea

[dim dock]

my previous save was pre release so it was only batteries then, i think

unless that was my choice and i just remember it that way

[hollow tartan]

gotcha yea I didn't do drones pre 1.0

I think you may be right though based on things I read in the past

[coarse epoch]

shit didd the new update break the small and medium adjustment modifier keys?? ctrl is no longer nudging half a step

[hollow tartan]

only thing you need to watch out with for drones is naming. duplicate names of drone depots can ruin your whole network

[dim dock]

yeah.. i have to keep that in mind. i usually have a convention. like [Resin/iResin]-[FacilityOutputType/Name]-[Location]

the i stands for input node

[hollow tartan]

yea thats a good scheme

[mint elm]

can somebody help me with my math real quick I

I'm still trying to balance my caterium

[dim dock]

pure caterium recipe?

[mint elm]

base

[dim dock]

and input is?

[hollow vector]

is fanart becoming the new "post unfunny screenshots that clutter everything" channels?

[mint elm]

540. I think I need 12 Smelters to make it even

[dim dock]

hopefully.

[dim dock]

540 is a weird number. this isn't direct from miners?

[dim flint]

I thought 540 was a bit odd too.

[mint elm]

overclocked MK2 at 225%

I have a max of 600

[hard ivy]

540=2x270

[dim dock]

45 -> 15. think 90

54 = 6 x 9

540 = 6 x 90 or 12 x 45

[heavy pine]

540 ore would give you 180 ingots and require 12 smelters.

[hollow tartan]

yea SCIM can help you fix if you mess it up. I had to do that after successfully not overlapping names for like 150 drone ports, 1 almost took down the whole save XD

[hollow tartan]

if you have the power run max!

[hard ivy]

why mine ore you're not gonna use?

[mint elm]

thank you, my math was right. So I would need to do the flow for balancing The Source being 540 x 1 into 45 x 12 right?

[hollow tartan]

SINK IT

[dim dock]

yep, satisfactory be a game like that.

[hard ivy]

manifold

[hollow tartan]

haha no idk just to have so you dont have to rebuild

[mint elm]

600 ore per minute comes out to 13.3 Repeating smelters and I don't want to balance that. 540 is easier

[mint elm]

what do you mean?

[heavy pine]

Manifolds are much easier to set up than balanced splitting.

[hollow tartan]

you can manifold instead of load balancing and it makes building factories a lot easier

[hard ivy]

!wikisearch manifold

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=manifold

[dim dock]

consider moving to pure caterium later. it's just better. doesn't need a smelter army.

[mint elm]

WAIT I THOUGHT THIS WAS BAD

[hard ivy]

why would it be bad?

[hollow tartan]

its slower to balance, but works the same eventually

[mint elm]

Yeah the pure recipies are new since the last time I played. they're looking cool

[mint elm]

i just thought doing this was frowned upon

i've been trying to do balancers this whole playthrough

[hard ivy]

it's balancing that's generally frowned upon lol

[dim dock]

also always use mirror output. as in output of manifold on the other side. else the ones on the far side take longer to start up

[hard ivy]

for some reason

[mint elm]

Really? I got clowned pretty hard for not balancing the last time I shared anything

[upper gale]

@mint elm If you want to use the full 600 then underclock the smelters so they require 30 each. So then it's 20 smelters

[hollow tartan]

I only balance my biomass, and some pipe builds

[hard ivy]

never seen someone get clowned upon for manifolding

[clear wadi]

how can i get liquid up high without too many pumps ?

[hard ivy]

what's wrong with pumps?

[hollow tartan]

when you put your first pump down then build up the pipe, it will show the highest point the flow goes, then you can build a pump on that spot

it will actually snap a pump to it for you

🤌 very nice touch I might add

[hard ivy]

too bad it puts the pumps at 110% lift

at the absolute limit

[coarse epoch]

sirdigby is looking into it, it is in fact broken

[hollow tartan]

I've never had a problem with it

[clear wadi]

i need to bring water to my packager floor but 6 pumps for just 3 block high i found wasteful

[coral glacier]

Power Shard boosts

[true mulch]

what

[dim dock]

there is one way for multiple pipes... apparently you raise one line up using pumps, then connect that line to subsequent extractors to trick the system into thinking the max flow height is at the last pump's.

[true mulch]

sounds like your packager floor is in the wrong floor...?

[coral glacier]

Water Extractors have overclocking slots via Power Shards

[hard ivy]

you can use the new vertical junction bug kekw

[true mulch]

that doesn't make them provide more head lift

[hard ivy]

head lift without pumps

[upper gale]

Yeah the horizontal junction
-# it's too good

[hard ivy]

idk how to execute it tho

[clear wadi]

i want to maximize the amount of extractor

[coral glacier]

Oh, that, then i suggest mk2 pumps for the height problem and also power shards for accelerated output from the pumps.

[hollow tartan]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/553550313533997057/1413283475833749555/image.png?ex=68bb5e4e&is=68ba0cce&hm=6711cce6b96f20604aa6a0cc5e475c8bd0607633835c0bf8da5c4278427be97e& only load balancing I do 🙂

[clear wadi]

does 6 full pipe connected together cause any problem?

[dim dock]

pipes have a max flow rate, which is 600m3/min

mk2 pipes that is

[hollow tartan]

more pumps does not equal more fluid fyi

[coral glacier]

I tell ya, my memory is as good as a corrupted hard drive from the 1950s

[clear wadi]

does it work like belt?

[dim dock]

so you'll have work around that. ensure flow doesn't reach a singular bottleneck point. more flow = more pipes. and as a result = more pumps.

[dim dock]

kinda... but height is an issue, and fluids can flow both ways.

so not exactly like conveyors

[atomic notch]

Isnt there a plumbing guide around here somewhere?

Also daily pipe appreciation

[hollow tartan]

nah gotta go to trade school for that bro

[true mulch]

!wikisearch File:Pipeline+guide.pdf

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=File:Pipeline+guide.pdf

[true mulch]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/File:Pipeline_Manual.pdf

[clear wadi]

i mean can 6 pipe connected carry 36k water/min

[hard ivy]

*60 pipes

[clear wadi]

or just 600

[hollow tartan]

600/min is max flow through any 1 mk2

[dim dock]

each pipe can carry 600, as long as it's not sharing the path with any other pipe anywhere. it doesn't matter if you connect pipes together, as long as the pipes aren't bottlenecked anywhere

there will however be slightly hindered flow issues. not sure of the exact mechanics there though.

preferably, keep pipes separate. OR use valves.

[atomic notch]

Use valves for what lol

[dim dock]

he wanted to connect those pipes together. so the valves are to prevent the back-and-forth movement mechanics

[atomic notch]

Kinda a niche thing u dont really need valves

Dont connect the pipes together?

[dim dock]

that's what i said. keep the pipes separate, preferably

[clear wadi]

so if they can reach their destination they will provide the fluid that all pipe combine yes?

[dim dock]

lets put it this way. you can't go past 600

[past robin]

I have made a beautiful pipeline

[clear wadi]

ok

[dim dock]

so you can have many pipes. but don't expect one pipe to carry more than 600 at a time

[atomic notch]

If you can get 600 id be surprised

[past robin]

I have a great screenshot of the lengths you need to go to to maintain 600 per pipe

[dim dock]

on a 1:1 line it's possible i think... and even on non 1:1 if you have buffers it can somewhat mitigate anti-flow mechanics

[hollow tartan]

? what does this mean?

[clear wadi]

so can i bring 1 pipe up high and connect it to the other to bring them up?

[past robin]

I just got done making my 5400 water per minute line for my factory, its in #screenshots

[dim dock]

that's the trick i was talking about. but don't hold me to it. i saw it on youtube.

[atomic notch]

Bro is so lost rn

[dim dock]

the one pipe to push others, is for the pump (headlift trick) only

[mint elm]

Sorry just wanted to ask 1 more question, I think I've got it. So with the 180 Ingots/Minute for my quickwire lines, I would then need 15 constructors all making quickwire?

[atomic notch]

Its doable anywhere im just sayin id be surprised if he got it first try

[hollow tartan]

Jax you need to look at this screenshot lol

[dim dock]

correct.

[mint elm]

😎

[dim dock]

you can split them up. 180 ores -> 60 ingots -> 5 constructors

that way the maths might be easier

[hollow tartan]

you can create a "water tower" to help with flow, but I have never used it to push up many lines

[past robin]

@clear wadi

[past robin]

this is for my rocket fuel power

7200 rocket fuel per minute

I am currently working on the 5400 notrogen/min

[dim dock]

yeah of course. getting it wrong is half the fun!

[hollow tartan]

its perty, part of my rocket fuel base is above your screenshot, not exactly sure how to link to other channels

[hollow tartan]

#screenshots message

[past robin]

use a hashtag! #screenshots

[hollow tartan]

got it

[past robin]

lemme get a screenshot of the inside of the building, note this isn't my design, so don't praise me for the build itself, I'm only running the pipe, belt work to get the stuff inside

[hollow tartan]

why so much rocket fuel? just infinite power?

[past robin]

yeah, just for the fun of the challenge

I put the screenshot in now

[dim flint]

This sounds dangerous.

[past robin]

look at the screenshot 😭

[dim flint]

I should really do some more interesting shapes and do some geometry to get it all right. But my habit is to design things to be expandable because I always want to add things later.

[hollow tartan]

that will produce like 432000MW of power

[rose tulip]

what goes into the alien energy thing that needs 10 loops to be crafted

[hollow tartan]

more than I needed for my first completion of the game by like 100000

[rose tulip]

theres a belt entrance

[past robin]

we were doing the math yesterday, and the only limiting factor on rocket fuel power in the sulfur, which using all possible sulfur AND sam nodes would be 3000GW

[hollow tartan]

gotcha, I mean that makes power a non issue

you can power infinite drones too

and you dont have to produce nuclear waste XD

[past robin]

this probably is a tad more challenging than just using uranium, but wheres the fun in that

[hollow tartan]

there is a thing that uses power shards and stuff to help it produce a bit more energy and multiplier, but it is for limited time and not really worth IMO

[hollow tartan]

its called the alien power matrix

[rose tulip]

10% not worth it

[peak wasp]

Finally leaving the hub to expand brings back memories of leaving home for the first time 😭

[hollow tartan]

yea was fun to do after completing the game, but not worth otherwise

[rose tulip]

those 10 loops put in something else would have way more value

[hard ivy]

depends how much power you have

also, that 10% is instant. you don't need to build more generators

[dim dock]

even using alt recipes to boost the intermediates?

[past robin]

yeah, that is using all of the most efficient alts

[bronze dagger]

Nuclear power🥹

[hollow tartan]

it is temporary though right?

[hard ivy]

it lasts as long as the augmenter is built and connected to the grid

[dim dock]

well yeah. eventually we do move to nuclear power. it just requires massive infrastructure

[atomic notch]

Im workin on nuclear rn

[coral glacier]

Nuclear power does require a few subsystems, but it is an amazing power source both in the game and irl.

[atomic notch]

10ufrs should be good right( never done this before

[dim dock]

i only did nuclear once on a friend's map. but that said i dont play a lot myself, and when i do, i get busy designing stuff 🥹

[past robin]

no we don't

[coral glacier]

And it's both Technically, Statistically, and Literally safer than Coal! :D

[past robin]

who is we

[coral glacier]

We, the players

[hard ivy]

It's 125 GW

[atomic notch]

K

Yeahh that should be fine

For now

[hard ivy]

plus 500 waste/min

Hope you have some plan for that

[coral glacier]

ImKibitz has a cool nuclear facility Other than considering that there's been numerous Near-"Meltdowns", waste build-up, and fluid transport issues

[atomic notch]

Oh yeah ofc

[desert bridge]

is there no way to calculate overclocking and sloop multipliers?

[atomic notch]

Everything will be built and tested before i run it

[desert bridge]

on the sttools or satisfactory calc

[hard ivy]

wdym? they're simple to calculate

[coral glacier]

That's exactly what i do on my creative world.

[hard ivy]

oh, yeah, no, those don't support it

satisfactory logistics does tho
and modeler

[atomic notch]

I do forge stuff on my creative world

[dim dock]

right i should do that. i forgot i can make BPs in creative.

[coral glacier]

I do set up the nodes, subsystems n everything for every project, that way i have a good idea of how i'm going to network it.

[dim flint]

Not that massive if you aren't doing a huge amount of it.

[coral glacier]

I need Nuclear Waste Merch

[hard ivy]

massive compared to the power you get out of it

[dim dock]

there can only be huge amount! i mean, in a modular setup that's kinda the default you end up with. else logistics are a total waste there.

[dim dock]

this too

[atomic notch]

What if i build two npps?

I might honestly

[dim dock]

your pc would love you for it

[dim flint]

I guess the first small reactors I made were easier because I already needed the materials.

[limpid cairn]

is there even a reason for logistic floors when you can just make all the logistic on the ceiling?

[atomic notch]

Since the current one im building in the cube wont be enough for post game fun

[hard ivy]

is there a reason for logistic floors or ceilings when you can do all the logistics level with the machines?

[dim dock]

technically.... the ceiling could be the logistics not-floor for the floor above it.

that way you don't have massive conv-lifts

[limpid cairn]

good point

[vestal merlin]

How is every1 doing here! 🙂

[coral glacier]

I am doing good!

[dim dock]

efficiently.

[limpid cairn]

bad since train signaling problems

[coral glacier]

Working on my plutonium power farm, and how are You? :D

[vestal merlin]

Doing alright doing alright, slowly building up to make a Motor* plant soon so I can start my first ever Phase 3 experience

[true mulch]

finished the steel factory, deciding whether to rebuild my entire starter base before automating motors and taking on tier 5

[ivory condor]

Unfortunately 600m3 seems to be a theoretical max but in practice I have reproducible cases where pipes cannot carry 600m3, at least with a manifold pipe setup and no pipe loop for that manifold

[dim dock]

get the iron pipes and steel rotor recipe!

[true mulch]

I still have no idea which of the new 1.0 alts are any good

yeah I'm quite fond of steel rotor

[ivory condor]

I would say if your using mk2 pipes as general rule pipe loops are a necessary to do with them, otherwise it's impossible to ensure a regular mk2 manifold will actually flow at 600m3

[dim dock]

also iron wires... then you can produce motors from iron nodes alone!

[true mulch]

ohhh that's true

but it gets quite hungry on iron doesn't it

[dim dock]

too much iron to go around

i utilize the impure and normal nodes in the beginner areas for this

gives me a reason to make road networks

hub/spoke logistics, hub with refueling

[true mulch]

there's this cheat called iron alloy ingot

[dim dock]

the... one with copper + iron ore?

[true mulch]

yyep

[hard ivy]

Nah, pure iron ftw

[dim dock]

i have to check how the pure iron recipe compares to that

[dim dock]

yeah this is my usual go to as well. best reason to get trains running early game. fluid delivery!

[atomic notch]

Still running of the same 4 pure iron nodes.

[true mulch]

besides the fact that I hate pure recipes

I am in tier 4

[hard ivy]

alloy is 0.1% more iron efficient 😂

[dim flint]

When I did the math on how much I could make with pure iron it unlocked so much for me.

[dim dock]

but you end up using copper, which is a more scarce resource compared to iron... but that could be mid-game opinion. not sure how it changes late game.

that said, iron wires probably mitigates the issue a bit.

[dim flint]

I'm doing iron wires atm. It feels like cheating.

[shrewd palm]

you're gonna need copper once you get to pasta, although using up a few nodes here and there doesnt hurt unless you want to make an insane amount

[dim dock]

and then there's iron pipes. it's criminal

[true mulch]

base recipes cost 90 coal, 80 copper, 428 iron, 82 buildings, 486 MW
setup with iron alloy, iron pipe, iron wire and steel rotor costs 90 copper, 357 iron, 42 buildings and 402 MW
make it make sense
(for 10 motors 10 rotors)

[dim flint]

I'm less offended by that tbh

[plush dawn]

logistics ceiling

[dim dock]

being able to make HMF from just iron and limestone isn't cheat enough??!

[true mulch]

drove down the cost of everything except 10 copper, removed coal entirely, halved building count

this game is perfectly balanced

[plush dawn]

iron concrete recipe when

[dim flint]

Recipes aren't all balanced, no.

[true mulch]

as much as alt recipes pose to be alternates, there is a huge overall bias that more alts = better everything

[hard ivy]

have you seen the difference between all defaults HMF and HMF with alts? it's a joke

[true mulch]

and dare I say it's objectively better, because it drives down all the measurable factors

[true mulch]

which exact HMF with alts?

[shy mulch]

I am an alt recipe

[hard ivy]

Encased Frame, Enased Pipe, Iron Pipe, Iron Wire, Pure Iron, Steeled Frame, Stitched Plate, Wet Concrete

[true mulch]

ok sec

[peak wasp]

Every modular factory I build, I make sure I have easy access to every part, in case something goes wrong or I missed something

[dim flint]

@shy mulch i just realized you are the Procrastination Lord. Our conversation earlier makes more sense now.

[atomic notch]

Its just iron and concrete lol

[true mulch]

minor decrease from 268 to 74 buildings

[dim flint]

Using stitched reinforced plates with iron wire is pretty nice.

[true mulch]

didn't force it to use steeled frame, edited

only a 4x smaller factory using 4x less inputs

[shy mulch]

My new factory is producing 470/min diamonds and I just realised how many converters that's gonna take to make them into time crystals 🤦

[marsh summit]

I just got to tier 5-6, I made a fuel factory making around 26k power, is that good or should it be more

[shy mulch]

Might need to find a bigger space

[true mulch]

go vertical

[marsh summit]

I have resources to use power shards for it all

[true mulch]

26 kW isn't a lot, but 26 GW should last you a while
just expand when you need to

[shy mulch]

The factory looks good as it is and will be dwarfed by this many converters, even more so if I go vertical, I'll just ship them off and do it somewhere else

[hard ivy]

0 coal, 2.5x less iron, 2.5x less limestone nearly 4x fewer machines. I think this is exactly why people complain about HMFs being difficult. they just use dogshit recipes that make them 4x harder than they need to be

[true mulch]

reminds me of my update 2 playthrough where I refused to use alts because I thought they could appear in the selection multiple times and I didn't want to keep track of what I already have

[true mulch]

that is entirely possible

very likely actually

[stray herald]

Need 603 copper for my factory but my only near node has 600

💔

[true mulch]

consider switching to a different recipe

[shy mulch]

Always annoying when that happens

[hard ivy]

I'd usually tweak the recipes to get below 600

[unkempt blade]

yeah like one that uses more screws

[jade marlin]

I love blueprints. Everyone loves blueprints. I challenged myself to put nuclear power into blueprints, each step in their own (eg encased cells get one and so do the fuel rods). But I have run into an issue. While it all works as intended, it looks like a huge pile of Spagetti. I could avoid clipping the building but not the belts. Could someone recommend a way to decorate a blueprint that has a few refineries, constructors, assemblers and 2 manufacturers? (This is currently the uranium fuel rods blueprint)

[stray herald]

Yup gonna use pure copper recipe

[stray herald]

Sadly I already have everything else set 😭

[heavy pine]

Surround it in walls, maybe build a bow out of belts to put on top of it.

[coral glacier]

I just found out where to access the paint ui

[limpid cairn]

water extractors only produce on demand right?

[coral glacier]

And now instead of eye-sore generic foundation, i have polished concrete :)

[coral glacier]

Extractors have a set extraction level, you can underclock or overclock, with power shards and/or boost it with a somersloop.

Devices that require more water that can be extracted by any one system doesn't pull more water out from the system than an extractors extracts.

[limpid cairn]

you cant put sloops into miners or extractors...

[coral glacier]

¯_(ツ)_/¯ ^

[cunning glade]

If ur playing modded and said friend doesn't have the mods what happens

[wicked nacelle]

They can’t join

[shut valley]

i finished researching a hard drive, should i take iron wire or fused wire

or just leave it for later

[wicked nacelle]

Don’t take anything until you want to use it.

Otherwise you can get it again in your next hard drive. Just sit on them until you want a recipe

[rugged ore]

h

[rugged ore]

iron wire is helpful but dont take if you wont immediately use it

[wicked nacelle]

Yes iron wire is likely the better option here and I’d probably take it but that’s because I know my play style

[shut valley]

ah alr ty

[wicked nacelle]

Iron wire and stitched plates together is a nice combo

[shut valley]

ill leave it until i need it

[dense violet]

you'll leave it until you forget about it

you're never locked out of recipes and they give you no benefit sitting in the library. Pick things that might be useful in your next factory and just keep going

[deep pier]

is there a way to have biomass be automated or do I need to keep gathering the stuff?

[dense violet]

Nope. Unlock coal power

[coral glacier]

Biomass is 2/10 that way.

[hollow tartan]

You can farm a lot of wood and leaves and toss them in crates that feed constructors that make biomass and then have those feed your generators though, it helps get good automation going early

[bronze dagger]

is there no coated concrete wall?

thats sad

[coral glacier]

I wish the merch shop had Plutonium Keychain.
I know there are the uranium plushies but i really want a solid metal plutonium.

[coral glacier]

Actually i don't know

[bronze dagger]

how do I achieve the glossy look on walls 😭

[coral glacier]

You could use half foundations ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[rustic hare]

extra thicc walls

[hollow tartan]

Maybe painted normal walls will be close to what you want

[bronze dagger]

like just a wall with a swatch on it?

[neon trellis]

Idea: merge the functionality of the AWESOME sink and space elevator.

so if you want to get rid of materials, you have to train/belt/etc. them to the SE and expend a bunch of power all at once to launch them into space.

and make the SE take like 32 somersloops to double the number of tickets you get.

kind of a dumb idea but it would mean the space elevator isn't just sitting around 99.999% of the time.

[rustic hare]

but then wouldn't we be rate limited by how many ports the elevator has?

[bronze dagger]

1200x6 items per min

max

[rustic hare]

yeah which only my iron factory already use more than 6 sinks 😅

[bronze dagger]

lolll yeah

[plain gate]

i mean, if what you mean by "expend a bunch of power" is realistic, 33 gj to launch a stack of copper into space is quite a bit lmao even by ficsit standards

[hard ivy]

my space elevator is sitting idle maybe 10% of the time

that's because 99% of the time, it's non-existent

[neon trellis]

That could be increased pretty easily.

[neon trellis]

I mean about the same in terms of MJ/item (or less) than the current cost, but it's all one big spike.

Or, better yet, make it a hybrid system where you can still use the AWESOME sink, but using the space elevator gives you more tickets and/or costs less power.

[sweet tusk]

If I click on advanced game settings, will I not be able to get achievements ever again?

[hard ivy]

Not on that save, no

[sweet tusk]

Oh okay, but if I load up any other saves, that will still be possible?

[hard ivy]

It only affects that one world

(and any other save files you create of that world afterwards)

Other worlds are not affected

[shrewd palm]

nothing more satisfying than making a massive factory and just watching the belts and everything work perfectly

[rustic hare]

I can't imagine the day one of my train crash and takes down my whole power grid with it

[dim dock]

Advance game settings warning... that's only the game i'm creating right? It's kinda scary the way it says "editting these settings is a one way action."

If later i start a normal game without these settings, i can continue to use the game like before, right?

[hard ivy]

Do a good job designing your rails then 🙃

[rustic hare]

currently it is good, I just don't know for how long it will stay good

[hard ivy]

AGS only affect the world they're enabled on

[dim dock]

Alright. thanks

[rustic hare]

my first world is literally a world with cheats enabled so I can play around

turns out I learned nothing from that and learned more with the actual playthrough world

"how did you learn that"
just play the actual game like it's designed to be

[dim dock]

was like that for me in space engineers. they had creative mode first. so i pretty much learnt nothing either. later on, playing survival was much much more fun. so game-intended tier progress is definitely much more rewarding in the long run

fortunately, i never actually played creative in satisfactory (i started playing before creative mode was a thing, i think)

[rustic hare]

oh I did learn one thing from the creative world
"oh damn belts look cool"

[dim dock]

other than when posting photos and videos for the devs, when reporting on bugs..

[dim dock]

the first time i saw belts... the idea of automating was amazing for me as well.

until then in most games, i'd be running to NPCs crafting and exchanging stuff, so it was fairly refreshing to see belts. and now in every game i'm like, "do i have to do it myself? can't i set up npcs to do it for me?"

[rustic hare]

first game for me that had belts in 3d and placed freely, not on a grid, then when I play the actual game I follow a grid anyways 😂

[dim dock]

you come from factorio? or that factory-craft mod thing in minecraft?

[rustic hare]

mindustry, basically a factorio clone with tower defense mix ig, and a few low quality roblox factory simulator thingy

[dim dock]

oh yeah... i might've had that on my wishlist

dont remember if i actually ever got to purchasing it

turns out i didn't even add it. i just did. someday i'll play it. someday.

someday when my factories look really nice in satisfactory. when they look satisfactory.

[rustic hare]

I scope creep my "beauty" standard keeps creeping up and I find myself reworking old factories

[atomic notch]

once im done with this world ill prolly just play foundry more

[dim dock]

exactly my point.

someday

[rustic hare]

also taj's graphical overhaul, makes me spam coated concrete and bright signs...

[dim dock]

that's a mod? or just RTX 1.1 stuff?

[rustic hare]

that's a mod, it does higher shadow quality and reflection

[crisp edge]

i find that i enjoy figuring out logistics and assembly lines more than i like decorating, but what i find most appealing about other people's saves is the aesthetic designs they put together. i think it stems from enjoying doing what i'm good at. since i'm not very good at the aesthetics, working on them means i'd have to go through the phase of things looking crappy before they started looking good, or cheat and import other people's blueprints

[dim dock]

oh i go insane with efficiency optimization.

so it's even harder for me... because i can't figure out if i want to optimize or decorate

[rustic hare]

having adhd would be the icing on the cake, jumping between decorating and optimizing, whatever is in your view 😂

[dim dock]

i turn into monster ADHD

[dim dock]

LITERALLY 😂

[crisp edge]

what i'm struggling with right now is that i just spent like 20 hours putting together a factory for assembly director systems, but now it's all hooked up and just needs to be fed raw resources and i don't want to figure out the logistics to get them there, i just want to build something else

[dim dock]

that's the fun part. i dont actually have ADHD.

but when i'm playing satisfactory, it feels like that

[rustic hare]

you got a train network?

[dim dock]

i've been building a temporary oil processing plant since day before yesterday. i set it up. then it break it down and rebuild it because it was looking a bit 'off'. i gotta stop doing that.

[crisp edge]

lmao i'm 160 hours into my playthrough, and i do not. i'm actually going to set one up specifically for this, i've spent the last 2 days barely playing because of how intimidating i find it, i've been watching satisfactory train videos

[rustic hare]

rightt, flies by a factory
thinks it looks like shit, and has low rates + early game unoptimized recipes

[crisp edge]

side note came across this one today and it's probably one of the coolest saves i've seen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfYtbsmFyxw

[rustic hare]

this is exactly where I got stuck on, this is how I got out of it, plop down a blueprint mk2, design some supports you like, then start spamming it, build your first 2 stations for begin and end, and I HIGHLY recommend building a 2 way rail system as your main axis

[crisp edge]

that's exactly what i'm about to do actually. i found an oil resource well and i'm about to build a train station at it and package oil to ship out

[rustic hare]

once you got the hang of the signaling system, building 3 way and 4 way intersections become a breeze

[crisp edge]

from what i hear it's path signal in, block signal out on every entrance/exit

or is it the reverse?

[dim dock]

always. 1 way rail system is just obsolete. also i prefer locomotives on both sides. that way i dont have to worry about looping it back. instead path signal handles that for me. no congestions!

[rustic hare]

if you got problems with trains, tag me or Lumi, ready to help you set up a train network, it's a game changing moment

you'll never do logistics the same anymore

been shrinking my stations all morning because I'm upgrading them to mk6 😂

[dim dock]

think of a set of tracks that are connected (touching or otherwise) as a segment.

you can either have block segments or path segments.

as long as you ensure a segment has only one type of 'entrance' signal, (exit doesn't matter here), you're gold.

but note, exit matters for the segment it's acting as the entrance signal for.

difference between path and block signals: a path segment can have multiple trains in it at the same time. the system will handle how they're coordinated. block segment can have only 1 train at a time.

that's it. pretty much

you can even have path segment exit into another path segment with this knowledge 😁

aka path signal as exit signal

[rustic hare]

that's such a nice and clear way to put it

[dim dock]

trains is love. trains is life 🥹

[rustic hare]

oh wait I was supposed to be getting cooling systems, why tf am I here decorating the steel factory that I'm gonna tear down 20hrs later

[dim dock]

sounds like satisfactory 💯

[rustic hare]

putting down a train, setting it's timetable and letting it drive you to the destination without human intervention is such a nice way to zone out for a while

[dim dock]

i always have a personal train for that (i mean i used to need one before dimensional depot was a thing. might still need it until i can set one up for every type of resource)

[shy fog]

Doing a first: Actually completing the unlock of nuclear power... not that I'm building it but I should unlock it... right?

[dim dock]

the game is about automation. if the requisites need a lot of crafting, then creating factories to get there helps. but ultimately it's your choice.

[shy fog]

heh... automation... funny stuff

I am the bench presser

[topaz shale]

I just discovered the existence of the cyber wagon. Bravo, Coffee Stain.

[rustic hare]

there's so many paths to choose here I can't even think of which path to recommend, because personally I don't use nuclear power, for now

[shy fog]

to be fair the cyberwagon was made before everything went goofy here...

[dim dock]

i want to get to nuclear power in this playthrough

[rustic hare]

look at how many flaws it has, it's hilarious

[dim dock]

but before nuclear power i want to use turbofuel for powering everything

[rustic hare]

I skipped turbo, went from normal fuel right to rocket

[shy fog]

I skipped everything and went straight to alien

[dim dock]

last time i had like 40,000MW fuel power plant or something. this time i'll go intermediate turbofuel, then straight to nuclear

[topaz shale]

It never turns left because the cyber wagon is always right.

[rustic hare]

my brother just used my slugs yesterday to make ionized fuel just so he can get the compacted coal byproduct what a savage

[dim dock]

i am curious if fuel power plants would run on other fuel types.

oof that hurts.

[shy fog]

yes, fuel can run on even liquid biofuel

if it says fuel, it can burn it

[dim dock]

curious.

i wonder what fuel-gennies on ionized fuel would be like.

[leaden turret]

is because it's a terrible vehicle

[dense violet]

except for solid bio fuel

[dense violet]

they really aren't much different

[shy fog]

well it does only run on a liquid input

[topaz shale]

Rocket fuel is amazing but using just regular fuel and burning that is also great. Especially if you put it with heavy oil residue and diluted fuel.

[dim dock]

power output rate is the same, just different input rate/duration?

[rustic hare]

if the fuel gen reacted like the jetpack it'd be interesting, different power levels per fuel, like liquid bio will burn at base speed but super slowly, while rocket go brbrbr with high output

[dense violet]

every step of fuel processing is essentially just converting other resources into more oil. As you can always just output more diluted fuel

[stark summit]

pedantic: fluid, not liquid

[topaz shale]

True. I love the detail of the cracks in the driver side windows. Hilarious.

[rustic hare]

it's exactly where he threw the balls 😂

can't wait for update 1.2: cyberwagon panels now fall off, and discolor in rain

[topaz shale]

I live the dev team for adding it in. The quality of the model for it is also just another cherry on top.

[rustic hare]

dude lost to a factory cart™

[shy fog]

I suspect the cyberwagon upgrade will just have the entire truck flipping over and the wheels never change location

[dense violet]

I appreciate it mostly because talking about it turns into a honey pot for musk simps

I'm sure a lot more are quiet about it though. Need better bait

[shy fog]

mental note... park a cyberwagon on top of the freight rocket

[dense violet]

get one on the space elevator before launch

[shy fog]

kinda did the silly when I was playing Junkpunk and broke mach 6 I think...

[dense violet]

junk punk?

[shy fog]

it's an incompleted...

[floral sinew]

honestly the nitro rocetfuel recipe is so good idk if ill ever build a nuclear plant

currently in progess of making a rocketfuel power plant thatll make 777000MW

[rustic hare]

literally just 3 stages of crafting and 4 resources with 2 byproducts

[floral sinew]

using 6 blenders with sloops

[dim dock]

was that the nitric acid + sulphuric acid or something like that?

[shy fog]

I did have a good bit o fun because I'm a chaos player who does stupid things purely because my brain says "Hey look, I bet I can abuse that"

like when I decided to go sugar cube surfing...

[floral sinew]

yup its so good, i just needa place 300+ generators all at 250% clock speed....

[floral sinew]

nitrogen gas, coal, fuel and sulpher

[coral glacier]

Apparently my laptops dGPU is running in-game about 50c 👀

[dim dock]

i just noticed, bps now allow walls/rails at the edge. sweet

[mossy rock]

anyone else got the problem where all stations show as being at 0-0, even when they arent? if they are out of render distance

[coral glacier]

0-0

[mossy rock]

cords

[leaden turret]

genre of dystopian fiction where everything is themed around genitals?

[atomic notch]

me at ur moms house

[manic arrow]

so i have my coal generators all hooked up and some of them arent stable even tho i have enough water

wait a minute i lied

[atomic notch]

how much water u makin

oh lol

[manic arrow]

im using 360 water per min but can only transfer 300

[boreal musk]

!wikisearch cg

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=cg

[manic arrow]

do you get tier 2 water pipes in phase 2

[atomic notch]

no p3 i think

[boreal musk]

loot at schematics above

thats how you deal with more than 300/min

[dim dock]

moar pipes

[manic arrow]

yeah

[dim dock]

that or get mk2 pipes

[dense violet]

that's just cyber punk still 😛

[dim dock]

if you can only use mk1 pipes, since you're far below the optimal 600 (300x2), you can make a ring system. connect the other pipe to the other end, and you're peachy.

that would be the simplest to do with least modifications

[coral glacier]

@severe elm, Try troubleshooting the alignment.

Make the sure the end of the conveyor that is on the other side of the camera isn't too far over. That's a common alignment issue.

[severe elm]

they're 110% on the same line on the foundation

[coral glacier]

Can you send a full screenshot?

In #screenshots :P

[severe elm]

on it

i see the issue though, its an odd one

doing what i did in screenshot 2 makes it straight, but raising up first and then connecting makes in not straight lol

[coral glacier]

Yeah so the conveyor supports are what's causing the alignment issue

[severe elm]

silly

oh well, idrk why i started off by going out of the bottom train station port if in raising it anyway lol

[rustic hare]

yeah straight mode doesn't guarantee a straight conveyor support I learned so now I place my own supports before placing the belts

[severe elm]

oh yea, pole places by belts are weird but manually placed ones are fine

[boreal musk]

straight not being straight after you place them angled

[severe elm]

thats wacko

[coral glacier]

It all really just boils down to the mechanics of the conveyor system.

Pretty silly issue yeah but easily fixed with a few conveyor support alterations.

[severe elm]

ficsit cutting corners again

[leaden turret]

Multiple different companies in cyberpunk.

Only Wang Computers in junkpunk.

[coral glacier]

That's the wholeeee deal my friend.

[severe elm]

indeedily

i do really like the straight pipes now, makes life so much easier

[coral glacier]

Straight is nice i agree, but when it comes to curved and/or bended pipes there's a certain fineness you need to have when constructing it or else it looks weird.

90 degree angles are what i try to go for to have a clean bend through-out my piping networks.

I wish this leaf on the end of my username would disappear

[atomic notch]

lol ur new

[coral glacier]

To the discord server that is

Sheesh, there's been a HUGE influx of members joining.

[magic thorn]

who here is an expert on pipes?

[atomic notch]

i wouldnt say im an expert since i use some unconventional methods but i can prolly help

[magic thorn]

can you help get my aluminuand oil refinary working properly?

[atomic notch]

you just gotta process the waste

[magic thorn]

you want to join my world?

[atomic notch]

not really im workin on my nuclear power p[lant

[boreal musk]

post your overhead image in #math-and-meta or #1038092680493801533 and whats your issues are

[sturdy jacinth]

chat.. best way to bring together the nearby sulfur and coal nodes on uhh rocky desert?

there's a massive mountain

[boreal musk]

go around it?

[sturdy jacinth]

but

hmmm... i guess thats it

[atomic notch]

#screenshots message this what i did

[manic arrow]

https://imgur.com/a/tuWcofn

COAL

[atomic notch]

nice

[rustic hare]

@rustic hinge satisfactory is subjective, but imo not yet, your conveyors are still messy
#screenshots message

[exotic pilot]

Is there a way to align assemblers and the conveyor holes

[woeful gale]

what happen to my blueprint?

[exotic pilot]

I ate it

[woeful gale]

I made one but when i place it

it have no building but still cost material

[exotic pilot]

I’m not the right person to answer

I’m in phase 5 and only made them last time I played

[boreal musk]

just align to the assembler?

[exotic pilot]

But like I can’t

It’s slightly off

[boreal musk]

wdym, they will align as long as theyre at the same grid

[exotic pilot]

Huh

[stray herald]

Why lower graphics settings if I can just evaporate all the foliage amirite

@exotic pilot https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/553550313533997057/1413394722583478292

[exotic pilot]

I mean the floor ones

[woeful gale]

can anyone check the image i just send

[stray herald]

Shouldn't it w ork the same? Can you send a screenshot?:)

[stray herald]

Very interesting

Have you restarted the game?

[woeful gale]

i havent

let me try

[exotic pilot]

I’m rn waiting for my bus so I can

Cant*

[woeful gale]

its delete the blueprint itself

I create a new one and still have no building

[stray herald]

I am available for the next 3 hours, let me know!:D

[stray herald]

Like the blueprint disappears from the build menu?

[woeful gale]

yep

something happen to the blueprint cuz even if I make a brand new blueprint ts still happen

[stray herald]

????????? ADA just said 'Bad Human'

[exotic pilot]

I’ll try remember

[stray herald]

Let me try

[exotic pilot]

What did you do?

@stray herald how

[stray herald]

Floor or ceiling?

I sent another screenshot

[woeful gale]

can anyone check if they can made blueprints

idk if that game problem or my computer problem

[stray herald]

I just made one an hour or two ago

Can you show me how you're saving?

Send screenshots.
I also recommend you delete the designer and rebuild it

[woeful gale]

I make a new blueprinet but still the same

I press the save button like usual

[rose tulip]

anybody wanna chat?

[lofty juniper]

is there train elevators?

[green fiber]

No

You can build ramps or spirals

[coral glacier]

Hmmmm, Train Elevators.

[silk crown]

Would be an interesting feature

[rose tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/tornado-gif-26879882

do it

[lofty juniper]

i think they should add passenger trains that go much faster

[rose tulip]

can you allow pictures but make them like small

so they dont take up much space

kinda like
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[solid storm]

Does anyone know where the cave entrance is for this sphere? There is a small Uranium cave nearby, but it doesn't go to far. #screenshots message

[boreal musk]

go to the small crater on your left, theres the entrance

guarded by alpha hog and some small hogs

if its the right entrance, you will be sliding to the sphere

[solid storm]

There is one weird thin slope going down towards it under a nearby rock to the left....but it was too small to go into.....so I need to slide then? Lol, never did that before.

[rustic hare]

yeah that sphere also baffled me how well it hid the entrance

[solid storm]

Ok then. Thank you

[boreal musk]

still not as bad as some caves which has further entrance

that one cave in northern forest near the waterfall is well hidden too

[stray herald]

@solid storm You found it?

I guess you did lol sorry I didn't read the chats

[solid storm]

yes, thank you....the exit for that cave does not even show up at all once you exit it?

[past robin]

I only need to get 4320 sulfur/min

i'm so close

[past robin]

only need to get the sulfur now

i am rapidly approaching rocket fuel

[deep pier]

how good is the factory cart and what's the best thing to buy from the awesome shop?

[clear wadi]

ladder?

all the hard drives i got are all thx to ladder

[deep pier]

ok thanks

[clear wadi]

should i just build all the packagers with all this dead space#screenshots

[stray herald]

@exotic pilot It's because Assemblers don't perfectly fit on foundation borders

[exotic pilot]

but why dont the conveyor holes work for mine

[stray herald]

My assembler is slightly shifted from yours

You're one nudge off

[exotic pilot]

dang it

[stray herald]

xD

[stray herald]

That's why I hate this

[exotic pilot]

i hate assemblers

[stray herald]

I hate TRAIN SIGNALS I AM SO CONFUSED

https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/553550313533997057/1413432244017561702

I DID IT!

🗣️

[flint grail]

I have 5 refineries turning oil into fuel and 9 refineries turning fuel into turbo fuel. How many fuel generators do I need?

[stray herald]

Each generator consumes 7.5m^3 at 100%, and 18.75 at 250%

I overclock mine

It gives 625 MW per generator

[cedar socket]

WOW

i only have 250

because i dont have alot of power slugs and im too lazy to find them

so now i have to place 600 generators

💀

[stray herald]

Waitreally?

[cedar socket]

yes

[stray herald]

One of us is way off lmao let me see

[cedar socket]

wdym

600 gens for 2400 rocket fuel

with 600 oil i think it was 40 gens for turbo

so 20 for 5 refijneries?????

i didnt do calcs so i muight be wrong

[stray herald]

I got ~18 generators for 600 oil

[cedar socket]

over clocked?

[stray herald]

Oh yes

so around 50-54

non overclock

[cedar socket]

13000 mw ?

[stray herald]

Around 11K I think

Unless I messed up

[cedar socket]

i think you did

40 is 10k so 50 is 12,5

nvm

ur correct 11,250

i used ur estimate of non clocked

but with ure 18 fully maxed its 11k 250

[stray herald]

Yeah my fault

[cedar socket]

how did u get 11k i got 10k

did u use any alts?

[stray herald]

No alts. Are your generators and pipes saturated?

If not they may be turning off and on periodically

Making it look like less

[cedar socket]

its a straight line

[stray herald]

I had this issue

[cedar socket]

no but i calculated it and i needed 40 gens

lemme join the game

[stray herald]

Yes but is it full of fuel?

[cedar socket]

i broke the factory a few days ago

[stray herald]

So real lmao

[cedar socket]

lemme do math and ill be back

[stray herald]

Once you finish everything make sure your pipes and generators have full fuel before turning on the generators

[severe plover]

I have a fluid pipe going vertically, is it better to place the pump at the bottom of the pipe or closer to the top?

[cedar socket]

whattttt

i forgot to place four gens

XD

[cedar socket]

i put at bottom and it works

[stray herald]

It depends how high. Extractors give you 10 metres initially. You can see a moving hologram that shows how far the pump will be able to push before you build it:)

[stray herald]

😭

[cedar socket]

well it doesnt matter anymore

do yk any way to make 600 gens look nice?

[severe plover]

ohhh i see, forgot that exists

[cedar socket]

bcs i rly wanna make it nice

[stray herald]

Why not overclock them?
IF you have somersloop research unlocked, you can turn every purple slug into 10 power shards at a constructor

[cedar socket]

what if i need them later

[stray herald]

You place a constructor, give it a somersloop, process the slugs, then you can remove the sloop:)

I discovered this yesterday

[cedar socket]

no the slugs

[cedar socket]

i alr have a constructor in my control room w that

[stray herald]

There are around 1250 slugs

Nice BP

[cedar socket]

so if i over clock all 200 % i need 576 shards

[cedar socket]

ty i just need to desgn it

im thinking if i should use the shards or not

cuz i might need them for nuclear

[stray herald]

What phase are you?

[cedar socket]

i just started 4

170hrs

[stray herald]

Once you build the nuclear you can grab the shards from these ones

[coral glacier]

An 8-hypertube launcher provides the perfect speed for transportation in my facility, i just found out.

[cedar socket]

lol

[cedar socket]

but then myh power will half

and how will i start up nucklear

ok ill go hunting for slugs i need 576 shards

the most ive had was like 20

ok ty

[stray herald]

My conveyor belts are revolting against me
https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/553550313533997057/1413443379487969451

[stray herald]

If you soemrsloop them all, you can get 2570 shards from only the purple slugs

There are plenty

[cedar socket]

OH OK TY

[vale grotto]

Time to train 2400 water/min into the desert for an oil power plant !!

This is gonna be fun :)

[cedar socket]

sluygs are so easy to find

[stray herald]

We packaging the water or nah

[vale grotto]

Nope! More fun to see the big tanker cars rolling around

[stray herald]

Yes!
You can also use satisfactory calculator. You can upload your save file there and it shows which slugs you collected and which you haven't. Same for anything else

[vale grotto]

Funny thing is, I'm moving water from the spire coast, where there's loads of oil around, out to those 4 nodes in the canyon because it's more interesting

[stray herald]

😭

[vale grotto]

Simply because I've already built 2 large power plants in the spire coast in previous saves lol

[stray herald]

Okay that's a valid reason

I hope we get another map or a custom editor some day

[vale grotto]

And my power before those 2, was the western islands. Another giant ocean with oil lmao

[stray herald]

Or even procedural generation

[vale grotto]

Custom editor would be amazing!! Let the modders go wild and see what happens :3

[stray herald]

I am a bsolutely exploiting the western Islands right now lol

[vale grotto]

Oh hell yeah

Last playthrough I put a giant oil rig out there, took 1800 oil/min and made 2700/min of both plastic and rubber

[stray herald]

I have been so overwhelmed by phase 4, did nothing for days after only thinking, and almost went for a restart but folks here encouraged me to keep going and now I build a 6 supercomputer/ min factory today and got a train network going