satisfactory

[crude canyon]

steam is down for me rn

[sullen gull]

Lies!

[loud jewel]

unless youre kibitz

[sullen gull]

Are you getting the "server" error in game? Or, you literally can't open steam?

[peak wasp]

I can't. I do electrics for stage for a living. I can't handle spaghetti and get extremely angry when spaghetti occurs IRL

[crude canyon]

Steam is down, and when I try to play satisfactory it says that it failed to create a backend and that services are down

[proud bough]

even his arent

[sullen gull]

Fyi, you can play the game completely offline. Just make a shortcut and add the --nosteam option iirc

[proud bough]

theres a lot of spageht in the walls

[loud jewel]

yeah well, you can hide the spaghet

in the basement

[proud bough]

but its still there

[peak wasp]

You cant problem solve spaghet fast

[proud bough]

and it will always bother you

[loud jewel]

spaghet is inevitable

[sullen gull]

Sorry, it's "-NoSteamClient"

[leaden turret]

embrace the spaghett, do not hide it https://communityhighlights.satisfactory.video/meta-search/?q=spaghett

[proud bough]

because you get too deep and cant fix it without ruining everything

[sullen gull]

!wikisearch Launch+Arg

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=Launch+Arg

[peak wasp]

THAT IS INSANE

[sullen gull]

!wikisearch launch+arguments

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=launch+arguments

[loud jewel]

damn

and here i am worrying about the slightest angle

[sullen gull]

Don't fret, I am the same 😏

[peak wasp]

Next play I will have no yellow when building, blue all the way and beautiful forever, and signage and labels and perfect angles. It will be glorious

[proud bough]

untill the rescoures nodes dont line up quite right

[loud jewel]

honestly thats the worst part

getting the ores to the factory

[sullen gull]

Use the "road barrier" trick to align foundations to miners if ever needed.

[winged glen]

how do you get auto-connect to work with blueprints? I've got a simple array of constructors that wont connect, but my rail BP does. Only thing I can think of is the rail BP is new

[sullen gull]

Then you can setup nifty things like: #screenshots message

[sullen gull]

They need a belt to connect to if not already there.

And then yes, switch to Auto-connect modes (Default and Blueprint) with R

[winged glen]

oh, it wont draw belts between splitters/mergers?

[sullen gull]

Autoconnect does not connect to "machine connections"

[winged glen]

I see, that's my issue then, thank you

[sullen gull]

Only belts and pipe connections.

"standalone"

[proud bough]

#screenshots message

side lit

[sullen gull]

Currently working on trying an "'under rail" light.

[proud bough]

that could be good with the inside light too

[peak wasp]

this is the best game, fight me if u disagree

[proud bough]

so the left hand lights and a under rail light

[proud bough]

no fights here

[sullen gull]

Just wish signs always emitted glow, and not only when in LOS

[proud bough]

yeah

[sullen gull]

Heh, I started this game a year ago with U8 ... Since then I am currently at 3700+hrs (though shave about 120 maybe for when I left the game running by falling asleep or collecting some coupons in a save or two 🤣 ). Soooo, no disagreement here 🤣

[proud bough]

still love there a bot that reacts with a coupon if your message has coupon in it

does checkit even do anything else

[peak wasp]

about to unlock coal in this new savew let's gooooooooooo

[sullen gull]

Just under rail alone: #screenshots message

Not working how I would like.

It does work a bit better if I use an H beam for the rail and tuck the ~~lights ~~ signs inside of them. But the H beam doesn't look no where near as "seamless" as the round pillar rail

[loud jewel]

coal power for the first time is something else

[sullen gull]

@proud bough #screenshots message

[hollow halo]

I’m sad

I JUST got coal power and now I gotta figure out how to remake everything…

[sullen gull]

Just leave what's running, running. And build a new one with what you've learned elsewhere 🤷‍♂️

[proud bough]

That's looks great

[peak wasp]

Right I have a straight track from one stop to another and the train says it cannot reach the station whyyyyy

[sullen gull]

Make sure the station isn't backwards

[peak wasp]

No signals, no other train aghh

[river oriole]

Geothermal power seems too easy, its just a free 1200 MW

[sullen gull]

Not very stable tho

[river oriole]

Wdym

[sullen gull]

Watch the generation... it fluctuates greatly from a min and max depending on the node

[stray herald]

How do you still manage 'X per minute' when using trains?

[river oriole]

well yeah but its 400 average

so pretty good

now i get more than 4500

instead of 3600

[gleaming turret]

thats looks very nice man

[sullen gull]

Thanks!

[gleaming turret]

seems i should spend some time in screenshots channel 😄

[wary vessel]

they do maintenance on tuesdays so yea

[feral geyser]

i friggin love drones, y'all

[naive scroll]

i just went ahead and grabbed like 20 hard drives today and ims till at t3/4 do you guys think i need to get to phase 3 or something before scanning them or is it a waste

[sullen gull]

@proud bough , In case ya'll were wondering what the scale of the pioneer is to the stairs 🤣 ... Only one of them is using the "pose". The other two are just naturally standing on the steps: #screenshots message

[sullen gull]

Just hold on to or reroll ones you don't want. That way they don't keep showing up.

[naive scroll]

oh so if i reroll at phase 3 while i scanned at phase 2 i'll reroll for alternate recipes of phase 3?

[sullen gull]

And it's up to you. Getting to phase 3 isn't super hard anyhow. It should tell you if you have to have all recipes available at the time.

[sullen gull]

I believe so. Can't say that for certain though.

[naive scroll]

yeah it's not i'm just taking my sweet time making good factories first xD

[shrewd hatch]

I took my sweet time

[naive scroll]

and are phase 3 alternate recipes important?

[shrewd hatch]

My factory looks clean and unorganized at the same time

[sullen gull]

But if they are in the list, then then are not in the "pool" to choose from when scanning

[sullen gull]

Some can be. Some of the fuel alts. diluted fuel, HOR, etc

(I think that's in Phase 3, can't recall)

[shrewd hatch]

it is

is it?

Im on phase 3

[naive scroll]

ah

i think i got most of the good stuff in phase 1 and 2 anyway

[sullen gull]

Yes, phase 5

[naive scroll]

cuz the same stuff comes back and i dont even know whats good or not anyway

[hollow halo]

Water…

Gotta head out for practice so someone @ me a good way to do water systems for coal :3

[sullen gull]

Every recipie can have thier niche and use. There really isn't a "best" persay. But, some, like HOR and Diluted for example, make things much easier on a pioneer for sure.

[shrewd hatch]

leached caterium ingot or caterium wire chat

[sullen gull]

!wikisearch cg

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=cg

[naive scroll]

i see okay hmm

[shrewd hatch]

how does that work

!wikisearch fg

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=fg

[sullen gull]

There are some of the "proven" methods on how you route things to different configs. However you want to layout it all out after that, that's all up to you. Check out #screenshots and #design-and-architecture for plenty of inspiration.

Here is one to get you started: #screenshots message 😏

[shrewd hatch]

what do you guys think about my factory in #screenshots

[lost wagon]

I wish we had halves of a lot of things in this game, half ramp, half frame stuff

[shrewd hatch]

a quarter of a foundation

half railings

curved railings

[sullen gull]

Looks to be "Open air, 'clean/organized' sphaget" 😏

[lost wagon]

I don't want to usea full frame foundation to make the "metal support" thingy for ONE belt

[shrewd hatch]

I have a closed part too but its small and under construction

sent it in screenshots

[sullen gull]

Same, but you can always clip into the next foundations. Unless when doing curves. Then it gets tricky.

[lost wagon]

yea but I meant the width, it's too big for 1 belt

I could use the pillar frame thing, it's smaller, but then I don't have the other frame parts of the same size to make it look good

like ramps

[sullen gull]

One I recently "finished" (Ie only better lighting planned). It's a drone delivery 3600/min quick wire plant. #screenshots message

[shrewd hatch]

howd you get it curving like that

And it looks gianormous and beautiful

[lost wagon]

there is a curve build mod

[sullen gull]

It can be done with the use of beams and time, But I 'cheated' with using Curve Builder

No, I lied...

This one was the one that made me say "OK, I need a 'shortcut'" 🤣

[lost wagon]

now I understand why there is a hollow frame pillar mod, didn't know you couldn't build things inside it like you can with the frame foundation

[sullen gull]

Yeah, that's one thing that irked me when doing long "trusses" across the map. Having to dismantle sections if I wanted something in them (Power, belts, pipes, etc). Or, to be able to walk through them for "framed" sky catwalks would be cool.

Going to have to look up that mod now lol

[shrewd hatch]

I play without mods

Im all natural

[lost wagon]

that's what I am trying to build right now lmao

[sullen gull]

The stairs I have been messing with today is all done via vanilla methods fyi

[smoky nimbus]

how many bean murder voicelines are there?

[sullen gull]

OH ... lol ... probably a few 🤣

[smoky nimbus]

i need ALL the voicelines.

im sorry beans

[sullen gull]

Lol, sometimes they got in to a completely enclosed factory, stuck on a machine lol... Sorry/not sorry, but I'm not rebuilding to set you free. ... Just glad radiation doesn't hurt machine's or stay around long 😏

And, then, of course ADA's commentary just makes you feel all 'icky' 🤣

[stray herald]

What is a good spot for my space elevator?

I just reached phase 4 and it's time to restructure everything

[smoky nimbus]

your main base or somewhere cool looking

[sullen gull]

Personally I just rebuild mine when I'm ready to use it. Same with the hub. Haven't figured a "good" spot myself.

[smoky nimbus]

concrete upload speed is consistently my bottleneck when building 😭

[sullen gull]

Some like have placed it at 0,0 on the map and built out. Some want scenery, 🤷‍♂️ . At the end of the day, you'll have to explore and determine what works best for your goals.

[sullen gull]

Build multiple containers with DD's on the top.

I made a blueprint that I could plop next to a normal (or two impure) limestone nodes. Boom, another 270/m going into the dd

[smoky nimbus]

the concretinator

[sullen gull]

Multiple DD uploads do "stack"

[ivory condor]

Oh yes I know 0,0, anytime I try to build outside of the map, thats where my stuff ends up getting moved to

[smoky nimbus]

theres this really cool pit next to another big pit and a waterfall in grass fields, gonna make my main base there and put the elevator down in the pit

hopefully it'll look nice

[ember niche]

we love rebuilding in phase 4/5

im doing my restructure rn lol

[sullen gull]

I have strangely never had this issue. I have had to move a few containers with SCIM because they were in the void after running out of jetpack fuel, or lately more so with the new overflow container setup

[ivory condor]

Well I did build really far outside of the map and the game didn't like it

[sullen gull]

Ohhhhh, I see what you mean now lol.

[ivory condor]

yes

[sullen gull]

Infinite Zoop/Nudge get the best of ya? 😏

[smoky nimbus]

explosive rebar is SO convenient

better than the rifle imo

[ivory condor]

well you know that really big crator north of the DD. I thought it would be cool to build inside of it, because its really big inside, so I build some stuff there and upon reload, that stuff was moved to the center of the map

alot of weird stuff starts to happen when you try to build outside of the map as it turns out

[sullen gull]

Hahaha, good to know. I was planning on something similar lol.

[ivory condor]

oh you were, i have some bad news

[sullen gull]

What'd you do ... build down till you found the 'death zone' and start there?

[ivory condor]

beyond that

look to the north of the DD, its that really big crator in the distance

[fiery lotus]

I think you may be overthinking it

If your factory is producing X & it doesn't exceed the capacity of the train in its round trip time, then you will have X per minute (You just need the storage to buffer it at both ends)

[ivory condor]

i was building inside of that crator north of DD

[sullen gull]

OHH. lol, I didn't even think one could get there 🤣

[fiery lotus]

If the train's capacity is exceeded by that value, add more cars

[ivory condor]

Normally no

[fiery lotus]

If the train can no longer get up the hill, add more trains instead

[ivory condor]

I did say I was building outside of the map

[smoky nimbus]

NO I ACCIDENTALLY BLEW UP A LIZARD DOGGO

...rest in pieces

[sullen gull]

I thought you were talking about inside the smallish void just NE of the grass lands for some reason.. DD didn't even register lol

[fiery lotus]

I see DD & I just think destroyer

[smoky nimbus]

removed every giant mushroom from the blue crater, time to pave

[sullen gull]

I immediately think of Dimensional Depot

[smoky nimbus]

same here

[sullen gull]

Not Dune Desert

[stray herald]

I am NOT proud of my phase 3, I manually filled 10 manufacturers from resources all over the place 💔

[sullen gull]

I did that for phase 4 😏

And phase 5 the next two times come to think of it lol

[ivory condor]

Well I did try to build outside of the map south of grass fields but the game didn't like that either

[fiery lotus]

I despise every single moment I am forced to manually craft

[stray herald]

Do doggos do anything except petting?

[fiery lotus]

I don't think I've done a single piece of manual crafting that wasn't forced

[sullen gull]

They bring 'goodies'

[fiery lotus]

Sometimes very shiny goodies...

Almost glowing...

[smoky nimbus]

which can also include nuclear waste...

[sullen gull]

And sometimes big boomy goodies 🤣

[sullen gull]

I don't think they bring waste anymore do they?

[shrewd hatch]

Why is there no rain in satisfactory

[sullen gull]

Preach 😏

[smoky nimbus]

do we question why the lizard doggo brings home nuclear bombs?
no.

[shrewd hatch]

There's one creature that always ran away from me

[smoky nimbus]

dunno

[sullen gull]

Berries

[shrewd hatch]

Berries dont have legs silly

[smoky nimbus]

hold berries and he'll become your friend

[shrewd hatch]

I kill everything i see

[sullen gull]

Lol, I'm saying throw berries and the doggos won't run 😏

[smoky nimbus]

real

[sullen gull]

Throw*

[shrewd hatch]

Sometimes the ai says, is killing harmless animals your job or something like that

[smoky nimbus]

you have to throw them?

[smoky nimbus]

you're killing dogs... en masse...

[sullen gull]

Or drop them, yes

[shrewd hatch]

I kill fat trampolines

[sullen gull]

Drop a berry and step back. The doggo will come sniff, eat, and be tamed.

[smoky nimbus]

beans

[shrewd hatch]

And ugly walking flowers

[smoky nimbus]

i hate those things

[shrewd hatch]

They look like those creatures from subnautica

[ember niche]

i js realized we were talking phase and not tier
im entering tier 5 and restructuring because my assemblers were arranged like a rat nest

[smoky nimbus]

i'm doing phase 3 right now and I just left my original versatile framework thats making 5/m and i have them all

haven't even touched the other project parts

[shrewd hatch]

I have so much reinforced iron plate and versatile framework

[smoky nimbus]

what phase are you at?

[shrewd hatch]

The ones with the aluminum casing

[ember niche]

shoutout blueprints

[fair salmon]

train stations seem to be glitched

[shrewd hatch]

Nuclear power

[fair salmon]

I have a random train station in the middle of nowhere that doesnt exist, anyone ever run into this before

it is interfering with my other stations conecting

[fiery lotus]

Weird, can you purge it on SCIM?

[smoky nimbus]

tried reloading?

[sullen gull]

Out of curiosity, what is that mod you refer to? 🙂

[fair salmon]

yes has been there from very early on in my game play

[lost wagon]

literally called hollow pillars

[sullen gull]

@lost wagon nvm, found it.

Lol, yeah, had my filter set to 'installed' 🤦‍♂️

[lost wagon]

now all we need in the game is a angle grinder to cut things to size

[smoky nimbus]

wanted to install the alwaysday mod, how do you go about getting them?

[sullen gull]

Or 'beams' of the same size those are constructed from would be nice. Then you can do your own freeform structures.

[sullen gull]

Get Satisfactory Mod Manager.

[smoky nimbus]

removes achievements i assume?

[sullen gull]

Personally though, I like the Sky UI mod for ToD settings.

[sullen gull]

No, not all of them will.

[lost wagon]

that actually could be a good mod

[smoky nimbus]

link?>

[sullen gull]

I am running mods and started this save with the specific ~~coal ~~ goal of getting achievements.

[ember niche]

i prefer general coal

[sullen gull]

There should be a link to the modding discord in #faq

[smoky nimbus]

nooope

[sullen gull]

Yeah, just checked lol. sec

[sullen gull]

my bad,. it's in #welcome

[peak wasp]

16 coal gennies, 6 water extractors, should be sweet 🙂

[stray herald]

How do I build trains around this kind of terrain? https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/553550313533997057/1410059752154730516

High up?

[fallen egret]

ngl just by being at these servers I feel like such a disorganized unproductive unoptimized pioneer

[shrewd palm]

either pillars or wrapping it around the cliffs

[shrewd palm]

ik some of the people here are absolutely insane

[fallen egret]

Bro I thought i was doing alr, then I saw kibitz lets plays

And then this

[hollow vector]

you can leave the server too

[shrewd palm]

cant wait to see if his new power plant has a meltdown

[ember niche]

is the molded steel pipe recipe good

or should i do the 6 inv slots

[fallen egret]

Nuh uh, I'll get better

[shrewd palm]

whether or not something is good depends entirely on circumstance

[fallen egret]

Bro i bought Satisfactory like a month ago and it is already my second most played game behind tmodloader

With almost 100 hours

[shrewd palm]

i think ive had it since around christmas last year

maybe the year before

every now and then i relapse and play like 2-300 hours in under a month

[ember niche]

i have the means to make the recipe but im questioning if its better/more efficient then the default recipe

[fallen egret]

cool, I'd wanted it for a while but I bought my PC in december and kinda forgot about it

[shrewd palm]

i think the regular recipe is the cheapest

although concrete isnt very hard to make and you get a lot more pipes out of the molded recipe

and with the depot there isnt much reason for inventory slots these days

[ember niche]

yea, 30 more per min

[frail sleet]

if it makes you feel any better, kibz kinda wasted like 200 hours and a lot of resources because of using a wrong recipe at a really important place

[ember niche]

200 hours?? insane

[fallen egret]

tbh I don't even have the time to spend 300hrs in stage 2 of the elevator

That isn't min-maxing, it is straight up suffering

[frail sleet]

in p2 you shouldn't

but p4 can be very long

[fallen egret]

Ik

I quit my first save bc of quantum pasta

[ember niche]

what

[fallen egret]

And everything was just so unefficient

[ember niche]

do i
wanna know 😭

[fallen egret]

Idk the name in english, I play in spanish, it uses copper powder and some more stuff

[ember niche]

say it in spanish 💯

[fallen egret]

Haha, that's a song name, you probably don't although it's not the toughest thing

[fallen egret]

Pasta cuántica type shit

[fallen egret]

It is just that the save was with a friend, we didn't know a thing and just did it however

[ember niche]

nuclear pasta

[fallen egret]

Like i spent the whole night AFK for the Space Elevator steel beam+casing thing

[fallen egret]

That

I didn't really remember the name

[ember niche]

oh theres particle accelerators in ts
fun!

[fallen egret]

Yes and the power usage is quantum

So it fluctuates

Quantum things just remind me of Outer Wilds (great game btw)

What is ngraham24 typing 🥀

[ember niche]

man im not even processing oil yet
im on my 1st run 😭

[fallen egret]

The oil stuff is pretty chill actually once you get the hang of it

[polar quartz]

Afternoon gents , im relatively new to satisfactory and was wondering how do you all figure out when to make a seperate factory vs what to bunch together into 1 factory.

To elaborate ive recently got to oil and trains etc and have a factory producing everything i need for building up to phase 2 ( and a bit ) , my next plan was to make a large factory solely for steel and steel related items. ( pipes , beams etc) but im struggling to figure out how much of each i need and/or if i should just bunch my steel productions alongside more complicated parts. Any help would be greatly appreciated thanks.

[ember niche]

i barely hit 1GW of power generation last night

[fallen egret]

That's great! On my first run I had to depend on coal for a while as backup until I got to uranium

Bc my oil production was weak to say the least

Where's your oil place at? Islands or Mycelia lake

[shrewd palm]

if you're doing something like that i think the general rule of thumb is to make specific factories for all of the basic parts and then move them around as needed
for the second thing check out satisfactory tools (website) or satisfactory modeler (steam), they're production/logistics planners and are very helpful

[ember niche]

no clue, havent unlocked oil yet

i JUST entered tier 5

[fallen egret]

You reached 1GW with coal?

[shrewd palm]

i'd argue they're needed for big builds unless you're a human super computer

[ember niche]

yeah lol

[fallen egret]

You must be screwed regarding steel

Or you're just built different and shit out coal

[last tartan]

does satisfactory support raytracing

[ember niche]

kinda js shitting out coal i think

[fallen egret]

Cool

[shrewd palm]

1000MW with coal is probably more than whats worth going for with it tbh

[ember niche]

i got lucky i think? i had a close coal deposit that was pure so it could support 8 gens on a mk1 miner

[shrewd palm]

in grassy fields and rocky desert there are a few good spots that you can use to make enough power until you unlock fuel gens

[fallen egret]

The lake place? Or the one south from fields

[ember niche]

no clue

[fallen egret]

The lake north from fields is amazing for that

[shrewd palm]

yeah thats what i used to get me started off, i think its still around

[fallen egret]

Yup it is in 1.1

[shrewd palm]

working on a 630GW nuclear plant rn and then once thats done i can finally play the game!

[ember niche]

im so new to ts 🥀

[rustic hare]

pretty sure it does, the lights are raytraced, so it gets blurry if not enough samples were taken

[shrewd palm]

the power plant i put there*

[fallen egret]

Wdym finally play the game 😭 🙏

[shrewd palm]

i tore down a lot of stuff when 1.0 launched

[fallen egret]

oh i thought youment the nodes

[rustic hare]

Un-toucher of grass, makes sense 😂

[shrewd palm]

and the T5 stuff takes a boatload of power if you want to overclock/sloop any of it

[fallen egret]

Idk I've been playing for a month and got an unfinished save and a new one

And 100 hours overall which seems to be too few

[shrewd palm]

i've got 470 or so on my main save i think

[rustic hare]

this game is so addictive it got me staying awake at 4AM figuring out train intersections and why is it fucky wucky

[fallen egret]

YOur username makes sense now

[shrewd palm]

and i think about the last 70 on this power plant\

[polar quartz]

Ah i see thanks for responding. How far down does that go ? Like do i make a factory solely producing say iron plates for example or separate it by ore type or contructor/assembler/manufacturer parts or something else thats kind of the main issue im struggling with.

[fallen egret]

My attention span would never

[wicked nacelle]

do you know about the signal bug where you put it right at the split and it doesn't work? (signal loops back on itself)

[shrewd palm]

just put paths on entrances and blocks on exits, theres also a bug in 1.1 that can make 4 way intersections not work sometimes

[ember niche]

yall have shown me that there's so many levels to ts

[shrewd palm]

if the signals are freaking out in another way just keep rebuilding the track/replacing signals until it works ig

[fallen egret]

Yup there are many many levels

[shrewd palm]

and you also have to use block signals across your entire train network

[wicked nacelle]

I've never had a properly built 4 way intersection not work. You probably have the "missing switch path" bug where it only sees 2 paths instead of 3 out of a switch. Put a train down and manually try to select all three directions and if you can't rebuild the rail leading in to the switch

[fallen egret]

Like there's people who build concrete bridges across the whole map to use a single grid

(most people actually) I don't even have a main bus

[wicked nacelle]

You can have it forget a 2 way switch is 2 way and you dont' get the arrow thingy. But a 3 way split that it only knows two still has the arrow thingy but it won't give you all three arrow directions, just left/right

but once it's built bug-free it will always work forever - no reason to scare people away from 4 way junctions

[ember niche]

a what 🥀

[fallen egret]

It's just like a belt highway

[ember niche]

is a single grid not normal?

[ember niche]

id think one giant ass grid would be the best idea for power

[fallen egret]

I mean

The whole map

[dense violet]

Just power through the the milestones and don’t think too hard

Spend the time learning the basics and make factories as you like

You’ll almost always think of something you could have done differently, and that’s good. You’ll learn how you like to play

[fallen egret]

Btw are you americans or from where bc in Europe it's 3:07 am idk what I am doing still up

[ember niche]

i do need to increase my steel production

[ember niche]

american here

[shrewd palm]

if you do it like what you said it'll usually involve taking all the resources from a biome or larger section of the map and bringing it all to one factory, this helps with keeping the build size down (very nice for endgame stuff because this game can get very CPU intensive very quickly)

how you kind of extend that is by making something (lets just go with radio control units) is just bringing everything you need (which you'd already have automated) over to wherever you want to build your factory, and then all you have to do from there is make the actual part and then use it to make other stuff or throw it in a depot or whatever

the other lazier and more pc bricking option is to make megafactories where everything is being made in one spot

[unreal sand]

I just got the game last week

[shrewd palm]

i tried making one a little while ago and the game didn't like it, although i do have 2 four ways on my network already and they work just fine for whatever reason

[rustic hare]

yeah I do, I just tear down random parts of the intersection, rebuild it, and the signals near the part where I tore it down and it registers the split correctly

[polar quartz]

Fair enough , cheers gents youve been a great help

[shrewd palm]

not sure exactly why but im assuming its because they were already built or were a 3 way before 1.1 launched

[rustic hare]

also make sure you have 1-2 blocks after/before the intersection, or the exit block signals won't have any blocks after it

[wicked nacelle]

ah, alternatively a much more reliable and faster approach is to just move the signal back a smidge. But if you want it to "look right" then rebuilding over and over until it works is what you have to do, for sure

[fallen egret]

Welcome to your life now

[unreal sand]

Im having a crisis

I don’t understand supply chains

[rustic hare]

I just yeeted 25k concrete building railways yesterday lol

[unreal sand]

And my brain is short circuiting

[boreal musk]

dont worry, it get worse

[rustic hare]

I'm a perfectionist, can't stand signals not being right at the start of the intersection 😅

[fallen egret]

Don't worry on my first save I didn't understand anything at all

[shrewd palm]

probably good to have blocks across the whole thing, you dont want a train getting stuck because theres another train in the same block halfway across the map

[unreal sand]

How do I combine things like plastics

[fallen egret]

Like tf is armazón modular pesado

[unreal sand]

I can’t just place a bunch of oil refiners

[trim vine]

combine?

[rustic hare]

yep, just a reminder for people building intersections without paths before/after some of the exits, that can bug out the signals

[unreal sand]

Computers

[shrewd palm]

plastic/rubber is just the intro to aluminum tbh

[unreal sand]

Circuit boards

[fallen egret]

Circuit boards in assemblers

[trim vine]

build a plant for oil products, plastic and rubber, then ship it elsewhere

[fallen egret]

Computers in the bigger 4 entry one (idk the name)

[unreal sand]

Makes sense but uh how

[unreal sand]

Yeah I’ve built them

I want to automate everything

[rustic hare]

trains, trucks, or snaking belts (I prefer the first)

[fallen egret]

OK then just spend a whole day automating and hoping for it all to end

[rustic hare]

there's an ending? 😂

[fallen egret]

Eternal rest

[unreal sand]

I made a massive pipeline of oil

[ember niche]

manufacturer i think

[shrewd palm]

either the west coast, blue crater lake, or spire coast are the best places for a large oil refinery and then you can use a website like satisfactory tools or a program on steam like satisfactory modeler to plan out the production line

[fallen egret]

That

[unreal sand]

That’s where I’m getting my oil from the blue crater

[rustic hare]

I keep going back, tearing down my old builds, then constructing new ones with better alts and train lines

[fallen egret]

There's copper iron and coal around

You can use them for the computer stuff

[unreal sand]

Oh there is?

[unreal sand]

Oh good

[ember niche]

this is the way

[fallen egret]

Yup, a normal copper node, like 3 coal ones and a pure iron one

[ember niche]

im now reorganizing my steel production

[fallen egret]

If i remember right

[fallen egret]

Nice

Now I'm going to sleep bc it's 3am and I go to the gym at 10am

[unreal sand]

My steel plant is very nice

[fallen egret]

Bye pioneers 🫡

[ember niche]

hell yea man go get yo gains
goodnight

[wicked nacelle]

It really isn't. You're tearing down working production. The map is big, just go make more somewhere else.

[fallen egret]

or i could type from the phone

[rustic hare]

also building towers with huge I/O capacity is so satisfying

[fallen egret]

the belts aren't gonna build themselves with weak arms 💪

[shrewd palm]

im about to create some awful spaghetti but it will be inside a building so no one will know

[fallen egret]

hehe sneaky

[rustic hare]

I don't want my world looking splotchy with mistakes of my tier 1 self, also I've exhausted most nodes, so upgrading old infrastructure to increase production rates its the way, there's no right or wrong way, just suitable or not

[wicked nacelle]

I hate to break it to you, you're going to hate your revamped factory too.

Just build a wall around it so you can't see it.

[rustic hare]

and I'm totally aware of that shi

[unkempt blade]

Not me, everything I build is absolute perfection filled with glorious factory carts. I am amazing and only build greatness

[fallen egret]

My first contact with the game was lets game it out and it seemed much easier and fun and now I think I've developed an OCT against belt superposition

[unkempt blade]

If it does what you want it to do then it's amazing. You can worry about making prettier stuff as you learn the game 😄

[fallen egret]

But sometimes it is the only way (at least for me as I forget that belt elevators exist)

But well at least some of my modules look quite organized

Although they take a bunch of horizontal space

[rustic hare]

how do you not use vertical conveyors 😭

[fallen egret]

I do but sometimes i forget they exist

And I always balance belts instead of doing overflow systems for some reason

[rustic hare]

that's serious dedication

[fallen egret]

Like look at my average factory, it is just not optimal

[unkempt blade]

the good news though is you're not going to run out of space, the world is huge

[fallen egret]

Wait there's no pictures in general

[rustic hare]

best I've done is a belt balancer for 3 machines, everything else manifold or hybrid manifold 😂

[unkempt blade]

and less-compact is a lot easier to troubleshoot while you're building it

[fallen egret]

It is in screenshots

I am not proud

[trim vine]

Simple, go to an oil hotspot (west coast, north coast, blue crater lake) and build a factory that just makes plastic and rubber.

You can then build another factory next to it and route the other components to it for computers and such

you can also, once you have computers partially automated (enough to drop signals) start making rail lines to move plastic and rubber around

[fallen egret]

I was until I saw what people made

[rustic hare]

wow, okay, uh, it isn't the best, but it works? 😅

[fallen egret]

It does pretty well actually

[unkempt blade]

everyone starts as a beginner, you'll get there

[fallen egret]

It was smart plating like 10/min

Which is not bad

[trim vine]

practise and being ok updating designs and failing, everything is a lessoned learned if you are mindful

[fallen egret]

🫡

[ember niche]

seeing other factories has put my small assembler setup to shame

[fallen egret]

I also need to start using more power shards but I just want to keep my factory growing and not exploring

[trim vine]

everyones first time in this game they build like straight spaghetti chefs

You learn how to do things, build straight belts and pipes, and build on foundations

[rustic hare]

one rule I strictly keep while doing factories is anything vertical, use vertical conveyors, else the belt stays on the same z height, always

[unkempt blade]

nah you're all amazing and talented and I believe in you

[fallen egret]

Like I've got almost no alternate recipes and I should go disk hunting

[trim vine]

3 priorities at all times;

1. Power, isolated from other factories
2. AGGRESSIVE MAM and Hard Drive Research
3. Whatever you want

[fallen egret]

I do foundations and straight belts it's just that I only now realized I could do overflow systems instead of balancing everything

[rustic hare]

as much as I'd want to deny my past self, this is true 😂

[fallen egret]

And that saves up a lot of space

[fallen egret]

My first save was straight italian cuisine until I got to modular frames

[trim vine]

Manifolds*

And remember, for coupons, at the end of line of products that go to a storage bin, place a smart splitter down and have it overflow to a sink

[shrewd palm]

and optionally a dimensional depot

[fallen egret]

Yup I do that in my plastic and rubber train station bc the storage is already full

And in my first save i used it in aluminium

[rustic hare]

my main gripe with the sink is it's size, gotta plan for it

else it's all good

[fallen egret]

One thing I wish I knew in my first save was that the zoop setting exists

[trim vine]

you can always route it a mile away, dont need to be RIGHT there

[fallen egret]

I built like 30x30 foundations manually and it was a pain

[shrewd palm]

infinite zoop my beloved

[rustic hare]

hmmm, now I'm thinking of a train cart for items meant to be sunken and a centralized sink tower...

[fallen egret]

I downloaded my first mods today, which do you recommend?

Like vanilla+ not overhaul ones

[rustic hare]

infinite zoop, cartographer

[unreal sand]

Im curious how’d you get train stations to work?

[fallen egret]

I already have those but there are some that seemed even cheesy

Like the train speed one, hypertube launcher

[glacial geyser]

is there a bug that makes multiplayer lag a lot? or is it my friends internet?

[rustic hare]

then I also got infinite dismantle, micro manage, remove empty depot slots I think?

[fallen egret]

What do those two do. Not infinite dismantle, it is self-explanatory

[rustic hare]

I did steam + IP multiplayer with multiple people, it's smooth, both the framerate and connection is smooth

[shrewd palm]

infinite zoop, daisy chain everything (look into this one tho, not sure how the wires work if you dont have the mod installed), maybe shallow water extractors, maybe soft clearance for everything, structural solutions if you want to have a lot more building options

[fallen egret]

How do i pin a message?

[glacial geyser]

okay thanks because im playing with a friends and either he lags a lot when i host or i lag when he host

[shrewd palm]

dont think you can do that unless you have the right perms

[fallen egret]

Well i'll screenshot

[rustic hare]

micro manage allows you to micro-nudge foundations and such after they've been placed
and empty depot slots just remove empty depot slots from your inventory, like that one time you put leaves in your depot and now want it gone

[fallen egret]

Ohhhh ok ok

[shrewd palm]

you could also go with infinite nudge although i think almost everything from that mod is in the game now

[fallen egret]

Other fearure I found out recently, nudging

[rustic hare]

I also have a mod that allows A/D control for hypertube junctions and one that share blueprints across all your local saves automatically

[shrewd palm]

i dont think i could live withoyt nudging

[fallen egret]

I should've looked at the controls before playing

[shrewd palm]

so useful for literally everything

[rustic hare]

my workflow is literally snap + H + spam arrows 😂

[fallen egret]

Idk why in the base game is E for hypertube stuff

Iike jst why

[shrewd palm]

same thing as trains ig

[trim vine]

thats excessive

[rustic hare]

same, I mean, trains are already a/d, why are hypertubes E?

[sullen gull]

Also, you can do things like Hold E with foundations for instance, and cycle between the materials with left/right click

[fallen egret]

It makes no sense

Like for hypertube cannons you have to spam E to launch and it doesn't always do it

[shrewd palm]

have you discovered the other 9 hotbars yet?

[fallen egret]

Yes I have at least

[shrewd palm]

ok thats good

[fallen egret]

I have a blueprint one and a liquid one

[rustic hare]

right, and when I build a hypertube canon that launches me 500km/h inside the tube, I can't even see which path I'm going down 😂

[fallen egret]

I just delete the tube and shove it into a different entrance

[ember niche]

giggity

[fallen egret]

No way quagmire

[rustic hare]

me at 1AM yesterday downloading the A/D hypertube mod then making this
#screenshots message

[fallen egret]

What is that bro 😭

My hypertube network is just random tubes in the ground

[rustic hare]

controlled hypercanon for fast travel between my stations, there's one exit every station, and a junction like that every time my rail meets a junction, the hypertube is packed into my rail blueprint

[sullen gull]

Me at 3am this morning working on these: #screenshots message 🤣

[shrewd palm]

i don't really even have a big hypertube network, just a small one to get around the grassy fields

[fallen egret]

And also my best train network is a single rail with two loops at the end of each station

[shrewd palm]

if i need to go anywhere i just send myself flying

[rustic hare]

damn 😂 that's smoothh

[fallen egret]

In my first save I had one to oil blue lake and islands, red forest, coal lake and random caterium
In the last one it is just coal place and a launcher to the blue lake

[shrewd palm]

nuclear plant isnt running yet and im already having problems

some of the uranium is going places it is not supposed to

[rustic hare]

I just skip uranium entirely ._.

oil power

[sullen gull]

To be fair, This was at 3am: #design-and-architecture message ... The other was after working on them more today lol

[fallen egret]

Bro's satisfactory world is Saudi Arabia

[shrewd palm]

i already have a 200GW rocket fuel plant but it aint gonna cut it for what i plan to do

[rustic hare]

my second train route is literally coal + sulfur for rocket fuel

and my third is nitrogen for fused frame

[fallen egret]

In my first save I didn't unlock any fuel types and now that I researched them in my second save I feel ashamed of myself

[rustic hare]

spamming diluted fuel go brbr

bigger refinery, and water requirements, but it just multiplies the output so much

[fallen egret]

How could I live with a normal fuel jetpack

[rustic hare]

and yet I played with a biofuel jetpack for 50 or so hrs 😭

how much it sucked

[fallen egret]

Bio nuggies?

[rustic hare]

compacted biofuel I think is the name

[fallen egret]

There's no way 😭🙏

[rustic hare]

it's thrust was so bad 😂

[fallen egret]

Not only worse thrust but also having to go do some deforestation every once in a while

[rustic hare]

early game kinda shi

[fallen egret]

I really want to play a save with someone who knows how to play like

The friend I first played with just watched tiktok while I worked

And used a real life calc not knowing that there is one in the game 🤓

[rustic hare]

same, I want a save with someone, who like, doesn't build spaghetti, put serious planning and infrastructure

[frail sleet]

liquid biofuel is way better than fuel or solid biofuel

[fallen egret]

Btw calc is short for calculator it is just slang

[rustic hare]

I barely even used the search bar in game until I learned it has a calculator built in

[fallen egret]

Idk if that meme is peak ball knowledge or common one

[rustic hare]

hmm, gotta try it, some day

[fallen egret]

It lasts longer than turbofuel and has less thrust

[unreal sand]

Trains

[fallen egret]

It is for more controlled flight

[fallen egret]

Trains.

[rustic hare]

I kinda want to do ionized fuel for giggles and shit knowing it's not that worth it 😂

[sullen gull]

It's totally worth it for Jetpack 🙂

[rustic hare]

oh I mean for my fuel plant

[fallen egret]

Wdym not worth it ending the whole slug population just for flying 1m/s faster??

[fallen egret]

Oh even worse

What was the automated power shard recipe again?

[shrewd palm]

i really hope i dont have to do 3 drone ports for these normal uranium nodes but i might have to

[frail sleet]

you don't

[fallen egret]

I haven't unlocked it yet, kill my enthusiasm for it

[shrewd palm]

with one its 236/min, gonna add another drone and see how it works out

[fallen egret]

How far is it from the power plant?

[frail sleet]

what fuel are you using? Is it going across the entire map?

You can put a drone going FROM and TO a droneport to get 2x throughput from one port.

[shrewd palm]

using turbofuel but once my power plant is running im gonna swap to plutonium

[unreal sand]

Im doing some testing

[fallen egret]

I still do not understand how train networks work so

Like I have separate lines bc I always end up with crashes if I do single networks

Idk how to use the traffic light thingeys

[shrewd palm]

plant here #screenshots message

[fallen egret]

And what node is it?

Far right i guess

[shrewd palm]

thats good to know

[shrewd palm]

the 3 impures are all fine, the 2 normal (bottom middle 2) are the problems

[fallen egret]

The cave and red forest ones

Yup either drones or train and drones is much less work

My former self would've belt-maxxed

[frail sleet]

yeah 2 droneports (4 drones) for uranium transport for a normal node should have a lot of margin

[shrewd palm]

i'd use trains but my rail network is getting kinda full and i don't want to have the most important resource in the game on it

[rustic hare]

make one main line with backwards and forward direction, merge and split according to their direction to/from your rail
the path going in will have a path signal, and going out will have a block signal to define the intersection "block"

[fallen egret]

I remember my first (and only for now) uranium transport, it was a train that irradiated my base every time it passed by

[fallen egret]

Good old times

[shrewd palm]

that was what i had the first time around

[fallen egret]

I'll just look up a tutorial bc english is not my first language and this is straight mindfuck

[fallen egret]

It was fun af

I loved hearing my geiger counter and knowing that "radiotrain" was heading from "nuketown" to "chernovyl"

[rustic hare]

my first encounter with uranium was without a hazmat suit, I wanted that harddrive, BAD, and I thought I could run in and out to not die from radiation, mining down the uranium deposits until it disappears

the catch? I forgot mining something puts it in your inventory

I was fucked then and there, and was also fucked the second time when I gone to retrieve my first corpse 😂

[fallen egret]

Chernovyl being I think half the size of the real one bc I had only one reactor there

[shrewd palm]

i have 101 :3

[fallen egret]

Well I first thought that radiation persisted in my base bc of the train but it was because after doing belt work for the power cells I had 400 enriched uranium just in my pockets

And thank god i realized in time bc i have keep inventory on and it'd be a deathloop

[sullen stream]

I have a world and I want to give my friend the option to open it whenever he wants, is that possible?

[shrewd palm]

i think you can buy a server

although exactly where and which ones are good i have no idea

[rustic hare]

just throw him the save and let him host whenever he wants, but if you want to co-host, you can either build your own dedicated server, or rent one

[fallen egret]

Forget about people and relationships your only goal is to serve ADA and save humanity Pioneer

[rustic hare]

and kill space elephants

[unreal sand]

I don’t understand how this works

[rustic hare]

cluster bombs + explosive rebar go brbrbr

[unreal sand]

Im so confused

[fallen egret]

I hate the fact that my comfort game can't be replayed

I'm forever stuck in factory stuff

Where is Outer Wilds my beloved when i need it

[rustic hare]

I love it when ADA tells me space elephants are innocent

THEY ARE NOT, they are plotting against my infrastructure creation, getting in the way so I cannot build more while they plot a plan to take me down

[fallen egret]

I miss my hearthian astronaut fellas 😭😭

[fallen egret]

The big fat guys?

[wary perch]

Wouldn’t it be cool if Ada told you about a new feature that allowed you to have different liquids in your coffee cup

[rustic hare]

yes

[fallen egret]

It would be cool if ADA complimented me every once in a while

Instead of trashtalking

And hanging out with alien things

[rustic hare]

I just want to see and hear ADA chat with the alien artifacts about songs, melodies, temples, blood

[fallen egret]

That talk when you grab their balls

[rustic hare]

this without context is so dangerous

[fallen egret]

What even are the aliens?

Like are they the planet itself

Or a sentient species

Is it specified in the game or is it just theories?

[rustic hare]

I haven't looked up the lore

so far I only have theories

[lime ermine]

Ask in #story-spoilers

[fallen egret]

Okkk

[dense violet]

How what works?

[unreal sand]

Trains

[rustic hare]

you place a line, tell trains to go from this station to that station, train sees line, train goes

[trim vine]

what, specifically, do you need help with?

[unreal sand]

Loading and unloading

[trim vine]

pick up and drop off

[lethal jay]

Did you set each of the stations for loading/unloading?

Also are you trying to load and unload from the same car at one station?

[rustic hare]

just like truck stations, head into the station and select if it's for loading or unloading, a train will need an engine (locomotive) and a cargo cart for carrying the cargo

[noble moon]

So i'm getting back into the game after a long hiatus. What's a good target for phase 5 production items/min? I don't want to go crazy and max out the game file, but don't want something too easy either, a nice comfortable middleground that makes sense

[bold wedge]

use industrial storage containers for both input and output stations to counter the fact that the item transferring halts during the loading/unloading animation

[trim vine]

there are no good targets, make a plan, and build what is needed for you

[noble moon]

Ok but can you give me a range? I don't know what's reasonable for phase 5 items. Is 10/m of ai expansion servers stupid?

[trim vine]

Like, if I suggest 150 radio control units for you, cause thats what I did, you might not need that

[trim vine]

phase or tier 5?

[bold wedge]

...

[noble moon]

project assembly phase 5

[bold wedge]

they pretty clearly said the word phase

ai expansion servers are NOT on tier 5

[trim vine]

Sorry, was responding between matches, i read ai limiters

[noble moon]

imma try this:
Pasta=16/m
Sculptor=16/m
AI Expansion Server=4/m
Ballistic Warp Drive=4/m

Which is easy to work with numbers and puts my phase 5 production time at just over an hour from factory start.

This seems doable? or am I being too over zealous?

I've never beat the game so I don't want to bite off more than I can chew, but I want a challenge

[trim vine]

imo, as someone who took 680 hours to clear phase 4, and then took 5 hours for phase 5 without any kind of planning, cause it was stupidly simply, take your time, make the elevator parts, enjoy quatum shit

[noble moon]

yeah it seems like phase 5 will be easier than phase 4 once I have everything in place. I'm doing it this way so I know what phase 4 targets to go for and so on, and then can break it into individual factories.

[trim vine]

it was very disappointing, I literally just had to hook some belts up and it was over

[visual pulsar]

Will satisfactory on console be the same price on pc?

[noble moon]

(Posted a pic of it in #screenshots )

So i have a MASSIVE oil factory in my world, what's the easiest way to figure out how much production it makes? I used to have everything listed out on satisfactorytools.com but i lost all that.

[shrewd palm]

stick belt monitors on the end of the production line and sink everything

[trim vine]

what recipe are you using

[noble moon]

recycled rubber/plastic

[unreal sand]

I have way too high expectations of myself lol

This is my first play through

[stray herald]

"Yeah I'm gonna build a massive flawless factory ezpz finish the game in a day"
Then a couple hours in it's all a mess 😭

[glad drum]

#screenshots message

how do y'all feel about the alloys

[noble moon]

if you got a iron and copper node and no water nearby sure

[boreal musk]

which do you need the most

[noble moon]

I like pure iron or pure copper for most my ingot production

[glad drum]

neither necessarily - just wondering peoples opinions - no refineries yet so I'm kinda just vibin with base recipes

[boreal musk]

i rarely build big in phase 2, so i never really pick alloy alts

[frail sleet]

Copper is more likely to have shortage, both locally and globally. The global shortages mostly hit in P4-5 and endgame projects where you can consume enormous amounts of copper but there are twice as many iron nodes as you could ever want to use

[noble moon]

how many play throughs have you done?

[boreal musk]

so many saves, cant count
but i finished 3 playthrough over 1k hrs so far

[noble moon]

I'm on world 3, 500 hours played. I haven't been able to complete the game cause life events sideline me and then I get back in and don't know where i left off or the game changed so much it's better to start over lol. but the process is fun

I won't start over again with a world 4 this time, hopefully

[boreal musk]

thats what ppl said after their 50th reset

[noble moon]

LMAO

[boreal musk]

[plain gate]

crude makes 3 end products

you have 15000 plastic and 15000 rubber to work with approx

map limits

or just use scim i think theres an option to view

if u have the savefile

[noble moon]

I'm also making rocket fuel so that cuts into my plastic/rubber

[plain gate]

nuclear pasta 💔💔💔💔💔💔

[wary vessel]

Good luck trying to use all that though

I'm using recycling chaining and only will be making 11,200 of each, and that's STILL more than I think I'll ever need

[plain gate]

well actually middle resevior better used for electrode aluminum but still

[wary vessel]

No harm in having extra though!

[plain gate]

i can use 7000 oil+ pretty well in most of my playthroughs lol

[wary vessel]

Is it bad that this is the first phase 4 part I finished

Ima be real it wasn't that bad

[plain gate]

i will admit it is fun seeing the particle accelerators spin up, satisfying

[wary vessel]

I mean I'm using all of the oil but that's because I'm insane in the membrane

[plain gate]

my first ever nuclear pasta is still spinning in a loop

[wary vessel]

I watched it do a couple cycles then cranked it up to 250% and slooped it to watch my grid burn

[wary vessel]

Lmfao

[plain gate]

💀💀

[wary vessel]

The batteries clutched up ngl

[plain gate]

not gonna lie id rather oc PA then build any more of them they're so fing huge

[noble moon]

all of my sloops are reserved to buffing the grid

[plain gate]

slooping PCC is pretty good not gonna lie too

[noble moon]

PCC?

[wary vessel]

The space isnt that bad

I wouldn't overclock them tbh

The power usage gets so out of hand

[plain gate]

pressure conversion cube

[noble moon]

ah

[feral geyser]

I just sloop the final manufacturer making Singularity Cells

[plain gate]

one of the most important cubes in the game.... my nuclear power almost exploded because of a small issue with rcu 💀 and the plutonium didnt get made

[feral geyser]

IF I HAD ONE

[plain gate]

why u have buffers guys!

[noble moon]

#screenshots you can take an h-4 hercules off that line it's so flat

[wary vessel]

beta buffer user vs chad "it just works" mathematician

[surreal oasis]

human inefficiency

[noble moon]

legit been too terrified to fuck with nuclear

will have to eventually

[wary vessel]

Once my oil plant is done then I do aluminum and big electronics factory

Then maybe nuclear

The oil plant will make 540 GW which delays the need for nuclear

[surreal oasis]

im building nuclear without needs currently

[noble moon]

how are you getting that much??

I'm only getting 115 off mine

[wary vessel]

Uhh

[stark summit]

rocket fuel is crazy

[noble moon]

I am using rocketfuel lol

[stark summit]

(when you have a ton)

[wary vessel]

What if I told you that the factory drinks 12,600 m3 of oil per minute

[noble moon]

where did you put it?

[boreal musk]

so youre using all the oil in the map for power?

[wary vessel]

#screenshots message

[wary vessel]

Not all for power, but the factory does eat all of the oil yes

I wanted to challenge myself by building a factory that does so

[noble moon]

Damnnnn

[wary vessel]

A few things I have learned:

• placing 420 refineries is mind numbing (even with blueprints)
• I need to do small side projects because progress on the big ass oil plant is so slow it burns me out easily

[noble moon]

love your pipe half tunnel thing, reminds me of LA

[wary vessel]

Thanks, I built those to run the outputs underneath the other half of the refineries because I really didn't want to cross the channel down the middle with them

The spire coast was so beautiful that I just HAD to obliterate the nature with my industrial hellscape. Big improvement

[noble moon]

I did a 1 wall high logistics floor in my oil factory. It was very stupid

[wary vessel]

That is one of my design rules for this factory actually

No logistics floors

[noble moon]

that's a fun limitation

[wary vessel]

Exceptions:

• there is a logistics floor between the basement layer and the top level to align the pipes and belts with the tunnels, otherwise they don't line up
• the blenders are technically on top of a logistics floor, but it's to make them fit inside a blueprint, and the logistics are exposed

[wary vessel]

I like seeing stuff go around on belts n shit and this is a neat way to do it imo

[noble moon]

#screenshots message things got cramped

trying to do the plastic/rubber feedback loop in this tiny logistic floor was a nightmare

#screenshots message

[noble topaz]

is there a way to change the measurements to 'merican units (imperial)?

[noble moon]

why

[noble topaz]

cuz im american

[stark summit]

all the more reason to get a little exposed to metric

just remember a meter is almost the same as a yard. and being american you know how long a yard is right?

[noble topaz]

i have no point of reference on how long a meter is

[noble moon]

100 of them is a football field

yeehaw

[stark summit]

a football field is 100 yards, and like 90 meters

that's close enough for estimations

or just when you see an M, replace it with a Y

[cursive crane]

One tea-in-the-harbor

[boreal musk]

5 beans long

[cursive crane]

[Metric is superior]

[wary vessel]

About 3 feet

[noble topaz]

who likes having stuff look like they would belong irl

#screenshots message

i dont

[noble moon]

just for fun I was looking at the mods to see if there was one for imperial, and I came across Imperfect Production https://ficsit.app/mod/ProductioScrap. this is god-tier masochism

[noble topaz]

oh god

https://ficsit.app/mod/AllNodesImpure

as the name suggests, makes all the nodes impure

[noble moon]

this guy is on a roll

https://ficsit.app/mod/NoDismantle
If you really hate someone, introduce them to satisfactory with this mod enabled in their first playthrough

[plain gate]

build 600 oil megaprints and paste them whereever you need

[wicked nacelle]

That's funny. but even though they give you immediately unlock of miner mk3 how are you supposed to actually build it without the parts?

[wicked nacelle]

it doesn't really seem that bad except for a simpler version of waste water in aluminum

you just smart split off the passthrough back in to the feed. just makes your belts annoying

[boreal musk]

if you want a real challenge, use powered conveyor belt mod

[river oriole]

So uh, when 8m roof?

[glad drum]

#screenshots message

Man, it's tough building things without clipping (except wires, all my homies hate wires) but I am really digging how these assemblers look on top of the refineries

Building my steel factory really got pushed back - but I think I can work on it next time

also, Catwalks > Foundations

[stark lily]

is the uranium node smiley face on purpose?

[near frost]

can anyone help me?
i realy need to alt-tab alot but when i do the game just like frezzes randomly and the only way to fix it is to end task from task manger and i dont got the money to get a 2nd screen anyone a fix?

i mad the autosave to every min so if something like this happens

[stark summit]

change from full screen to windowed full screen?

[near frost]

ok

[rigid glen]

Windowed mode will fix that, the one small downside is the game will never start in full, but you just click tghe box

[near frost]

dude take that over risiking my save file

[rigid mist]

I feel like there’s an art to spaghetti in this game
It will usually look lazy 99% of the time but that small amount and it somehow looks orderly

[rigid glen]

I'm not a perfectionist or designer really, my factories rarely have walls and ceilings 🙂 but I will never allow spaghetti anywhere on my map 😛

[exotic pilot]

Cope

But I ageee

[rigid mist]

Oh no I don’t build spaghetti unless I intend to

[exotic pilot]

I purposely build spaghetti

[rigid mist]

Valid

There’s a design philosophy for another game that I want to see if it would work in this one

[exotic pilot]

Just for the ones out there that tihnk it’s a felony

[stray herald]

So I am trying to start a train network and move my base, but everytime I hop on I get overwhelmed and I just stare at my screen for a few minutes before quitting and repeating the same steps a bit later. Any tips?

[rigid mist]

Ah, the analysis paralysis
I know no cure

[stray herald]

https://tenor.com/view/tunti35-pain-painkiller-stickmanpain-tunay-gif-22123906

[rigid mist]

Just take it in little chunks
Don’t try and think of the whole project as a whole, but instead as a bunch of smaller sub projects

[stark summit]

I've had this same problem. make a station to pick up a specific item, go somewhere else and make another station to pick up a different item. decide the final destination. make rails to connect everything

[rigid mist]

I think there was a thing I was reading in a book about this

[stray herald]

Tell us

[noble topaz]

Go at one step at a time
You need this item for the main item?
Then get those parts, and make sure that works, then go to the next part

That's how my brain works best at least

[rigid mist]

Adam savage has an entire chapter in his book about making checklists to lighten the load and so you can see how much progress you’ve made

[woeful gate]

Has anyone else noticed a bug where you take radiation damage when not anywhere near radiation and don't have any radiation in your inventory?

[rigid mist]

Nuclear hog?

[stray herald]

Thn my next worry is do I have some giant storage area where I route stuff to, or if I make basic factories that route to complex ones (e.g a screw factory with a train going to a reinforced plate factory which then routes to another deeper factory etc etc)

[woeful gate]

Nope.

[noble topaz]

Speaking of radiation, when do you get the stuff for radiation gas masks?

[rigid mist]

Tip: don’t put screws on trains the throughput would be crazy

[woeful gate]

Like i'll be handling nuclear waste and stuff. And then put it all away, but ill still be taking heavy radiation damage.

[rigid mist]

Unlock it in the mam

[noble topaz]

I support this tip
I can't get rid of one cuz of the amount that comes in and the lack of usage from it

I think i have a few big bins full of screws

I'll get around to sinking them at some point

[rigid mist]

I have had a similar situation in another game it was horrible don’t do it

[frail sleet]

further tip: don't merge screw belts any more than strictly neccesary either, and make items like screws as late as possible.

If you have something consuming 100 screws per minute then make 100 screws in front of it and belt them into the input.

That way you transport ingots, not screws. Or quickwire etc.

[woeful gate]

Just transport rods and then convert to screws on location.

[stray herald]

All my homies hate screws

[noble topaz]

fr

I need 200 screws to make one thing

[woeful gate]

Screws killed every noobs first factory.

[noble topaz]

Nvm, heavy modular frames

[woeful gate]

Once you realize you need hundreds of thousands of screws- its all over

[rigid mist]

Tomorrow, I shall see if I can make disciplined spaghetti in satisfactory and not just Factorio (never even managed to get it functioning properly in the game it was designed in)

[hollow vector]

solution: just dont use recipes with screws

as many as you can

[noble topaz]

Tf is disciplined spaghetti

[stark summit]

super this

[noble topaz]

Heavy modular frames?

[hollow vector]

make screws onsite

[reef basin]

generally I'd recommend not routing things between factories. If a factory needs item X, let that factory make it for itself

[rigid mist]

It’s easier to show it than to explain it
If you look up on YouTube “seablock retrospective” or “space exploration retrospective” you’ll see what I generally mean by the base design

[stray herald]

What if I have a train with plastic that delivers to two factories that need some plastic each. Is that doable in-game?

[hollow vector]

also did i not just say as many as you can?

[reef basin]

unless you build them properly, then they are completely fine 😛

[hollow vector]

finally a pioneer with more than 2 neurons

[noble topaz]

This is why ADA is sassy with us

[hollow vector]

problem?

[noble topaz]

The fact most of us have less than 2 brain cells(?)

[hollow vector]

you can also use a rifle and point to the helmet visor
it disables ada
however it also causes an unwanted sideaffect of being set into a infinte sleeping state

(no, this is not me telling you to kill your self. sucide is punishable by death)

[exotic pilot]

Or you can press enter or what ever it is

[hollow vector]

i hear nobelisks are really effective too

[hollow vector]

you have just proved my point

neuron, not braincell

[noble topaz]

Not met to do but
But cool

[woeful gate]

ficsit does not waste? Say that to my 5000 industrial storage bins of nuclear waste. I'm not dealin with that slop

[shrewd pelican]

true

[woeful gate]

Don't tell me what to do Ada

Theres no way those bins will ever fully fill. I will have made a surplus of everything I could ever need by that point

[shrewd pelican]

noice

[woeful gate]

I almost considered doing something with it... But regular waste turns into plutonium waste?

Too much slop. Into the bin of perpetual storage.

[fiery lotus]

I make the assumption the pioneer will be stuck managing this sector for the next 10'000 years

[shrewd pelican]

lol

[stark summit]

uranium waste -> non-fissile uranium -> plutonium pellets -> plutonium cells -> plutonium rods -> sink

[shrewd pelican]

i watche kibitz do the plutonim rod setups

[woeful gate]

Uranium waste -> Bin

[stark summit]

with alt recipes you can skip a step i think

[shrewd pelican]

you can

[stark summit]

you can store it, or flush them 1 by 1, but you can't get rid of it.

[shrewd pelican]

and after like 500 hours the bins will eventually fill up

[woeful gate]

I will have saved earth by then

[shrewd pelican]

what phase are u on?

5?

[woeful gate]

last one :3

[shrewd pelican]

so you need 1000 nucler pasta 1000 biochemichal sculptors 265 ai expansion servers and 200 balistic warp drives

[reef basin]

ficsit indeed did not waste, you did

[stark summit]

256

not 265. but splitting hairs.

[shrewd pelican]

oh ok

[woeful gate]

https://tenor.com/view/cake-spy-kids-spy-kids-three-gif-22259371

[shrewd pelican]

wut

ta hell is that

[woeful gate]

apparently im not cool enough to post gifs ;~; cringe

[stark summit]

apparently no pics in this channel i think

[shrewd pelican]

im on phase 2. started playing the game again like 2 days ago after stopping for 4 years. i stopped playing satisfactory in update 3

[stray herald]

LET'SGOOOOOO NO MORE SCREWS https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/553550313533997057/1410152416321605653

[stark summit]

i'm on my 4th world with a friend on a dedicated server, but he's suddenly getting bored of the game, so now i'm here

[shrewd pelican]

i had a world before like with 110 hours and i lost it after i stopped playing 😢

[stark summit]

the change from update 3 to 1.1 is huge

[shrewd pelican]

ik right?

[stark summit]

you're better off starting over IMO

[shrewd pelican]

i did

and its so diferent

like bruhh

i remeber manufactuers like big metal boxes

oh i cant send links

[noble topaz]

Who wants a gen chat with image perms

🤑

[shrewd pelican]

me

@noble topaz

[hollow halo]

Is it bad that wanna find every node and run it all into one place?

[shrewd pelican]

no

[noble topaz]

Nope

I NEED TO SLEEP

HELP 😭

I CAN'T SLEEP

I HAVE FIRST DAY OF SCHOOL TOMORROW

[shrewd pelican]

imma fix that

takes out gun SLEEP

[noble topaz]

gets run over by a train

[hollow halo]

What did I just witness 🧍🏽‍♀️

[noble topaz]

-# i like trains

[shrewd pelican]

somthing ig

[noble topaz]

🧍 🚂🚋🚋🚋

[shrewd pelican]

BRRUUUUUUUUUUUUUUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[noble topaz]

Good enough for me

[shrewd pelican]

ok now sleep or i shoot

[noble topaz]

Ok fine :<

[shrewd pelican]

get good grades

make me proud son

and dont forget to play satisfactory

[hollow halo]

My first day is next week

So I’ll probably spend the free time to go and pull EVERY available node i can into one place :3

/j :3

[shrewd pelican]

my firs day is next week too

[hollow halo]

You start on the 3rd aswell?

[shrewd pelican]

yep

[stray herald]

Made a friend!:D
https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/553550313533997057/1410157669238440057

[peak wasp]

guys does anyone have the water flow to coal gennie pic?
I have 6 extractors and they will power 16 gennies

[stray herald]

Dam I start tomorrow

[shrewd pelican]

its ze moth

im in croatia so i start next week

🇭🇷

[stray herald]

Ah. 🇨🇦 here

[shrewd pelican]

can i get some maple syrup

please?

[limpid cairn]

guys i now have 6 links for concrete

[stark summit]

i'm a few years outside of school lol

[limpid cairn]

lets guess how fast im going to run out while building

[shrewd pelican]

noice

[willow glen]

you might finally have enough, maybe

[limpid cairn]

im pretty sure im uploading concrete faster than producing it

[shrewd pelican]

why is the GLAdOS emoji in satisfactory?

[limpid cairn]

i ran out

gotta wait again

[shrewd pelican]

every tiktoker be like: #satisfying #syrup #lizarddoggo #floors #factory

[hybrid nymph]

hey guys

[stark summit]

howdy

[hybrid nymph]

just hanging out and improving my factory

you are are just as useful if not more than the wiki

you've taught me a lot more than I thought I already knew

[stark summit]

what phase are you on?

[hybrid nymph]

god I wish you could farm paleberries, bacon mushrooms, and bereyl nuts

I am on phase 4, tier 7

I am fixing my oil and then going to work on milestones

[cursive crane]

I mean you kinda can berries and nuts. They grow back

Just dont delete/blow up the bush

[unkempt blade]

yeah! #cartlife

[boreal musk]

you can, you just need to occasionally regrow them with scim

[hybrid nymph]

blow up the bush?

Sure Moses, we think you've been burning some bush lol

[unkempt blade]

Blasphemer! We all know the one true god is factory cart

[stark summit]

I wish I were actually tired

2:30 am yayyyy

[hybrid nymph]

The one true God is Nicholas Cage

everyone knows this

[unkempt blade]

You should set up a factory cart route and add a bunch of carts and count them as they go by. Way smarter than sheep-counting

[limpid cairn]

guys, im sorry, i have to build sushi belts 😔

[trim vine]

no you dont, you making that choice

[past pelican]

Hi. Im new to fluids. Im trying to set up 48 coal generators. It needs 2160 m3 of water. so I built 20 water extractors giving 2400 m3 of water into 8 mrk 1 pipes

[limpid cairn]

im joining the dark side

[unkempt blade]

have you considered connecting multiple truck stops to the same machine and adding a multistop factory cart route per item instead?

[limpid cairn]

guys do i choose instant scrap or nitrogen rocket fuel?

[unkempt blade]

use both in the same build

[versed mesa]

Hello I am new to the game i bought it this morning

[hybrid nymph]

each MK1 pipe only handles 300 m^3 of water, so you'll need 8 separate pipes

[limpid cairn]

i meant for harddrive research

[past pelican]

Hi. Im new to fluids. Im trying to set up 48 coal generators. It needs 2160 m3 of water. so I built 20 water extractors giving 2400 m3 of water into 8 mrk 1 pipes. Before connecting to the coal Gens i checked the flow of the 8 pipes. Its always showing lower than 300

[shrewd pelican]

hello

[unkempt blade]

oh, then definitely pick both

[limpid cairn]

it handles 300m^3 per min, the actual space of it is way smaller iirc

[void gorge]

./sweats

[hybrid nymph]

you need pipe pumps

[versed mesa]

Hey

[limpid cairn]

if anyone wonders its 74,3m^3 for a full length t1 pipe

[past pelican]

Can someone help me with this. Im have been testing the water for alomst a day and it doesnt seem to work. I suspect the probelm is with the connection of the pipes. But i cant trouble shoot it

[shrewd pelican]

do you use pumps?

[unkempt blade]

start a thread in #1038092680493801533 and give us some screenshots of what you're doing there

[past pelican]

No pumps. all the pipes and water extractor are on the same level. i have not raised it yet

[shrewd pelican]

ah ok

[past pelican]

its it okay share the save file?

[hybrid nymph]

I need better conveyor belts

[shrewd pelican]

did you check all of the connections?

[past pelican]

yes

[shrewd pelican]

hmmm

[past pelican]

point is i dont know what im doing wrong

[trim vine]

enjoy your headache ❤️

[shrewd pelican]

yea true