satisfactory

[subtle swan]

how? 4 fuel things are 5x5 and so is the mk2 editor

[silk rose]

i told how

make pipe between them

[hard ivy]

put them all in as far apart as you can, connect the gens together with a pipe, put the junction on the pipe. you can use another junction on the floor to align it

[subtle swan]

ohh icic mb

[slender quest]

Make a factory that creates some parts then.
Also automatic miner unlocks during tutorial. Should be available to you.

[silk rose]

im bored so i can even explain in dms

[naive pendant]

@ashen trail The maximum throughput of one wagon is the wagon item count divided by the round trip time. People essentially always ensure the throughput of the train step is greater than the item consumption. Ala train not the bottleneck.

[slender quest]

Check out Equipment workshop.

It has mini miners necessary to craft big ones.

[ivory condor]

It requires trial and error figuring out needed throughout amount and putting in the needed freight cars

[peak wasp]

im abt to make a central iron factory anyone got any decoration or layout tips

[silk rose]

cast screws tip

[slender quest]

No screws tip.

[silk rose]

lmao

[ashen trail]

why bother with trains if I can just belt everything where I want it and I'll know the exact throughput... either limited by my miner or my belts?

[silk rose]

screw only took 3 mk4 belts on my factory

[peak wasp]

i js dont know how to lay it out since like theres so many iron things

[silk rose]

deppends on how much you wanna make

[peak wasp]

i wanna make a pretty big factory producing a lot of iron stuff

[hard ivy]

trains only need 2 rails between the 2 locations, regardless of throughput. plus you can expand rails by reusing old ones

[silk rose]

my 40 of each factory took 3 days, 3 burning ass, headaches, black magic,... days

[ashen trail]

so basically, I can run two rails instead of 15 belts, and just add cargo cars to ensure the train isn't the bottleneck?

[peak wasp]

do yk any good layout ideas im super new to building proper factories

[silk rose]

tip one, make storeys

flat bad

general tip tho

[hard ivy]

all of my factories are flat. no complaints

[peak wasp]

wait can u dm me this stuff so i can note it all

[silk rose]

the elevator 🙏

[ashen trail]

Check out the smelter

[acoustic shell]

I have it as a floor per part if needed, like for motors, I have a floor for just iron/rotors, and then the second floor is stators and motors

[topaz shale]

Or ladders. Both of which are amazing.

[vocal quail]

Yes, ish. More cargo wagons equals more weight so you need more engines. I like to use a max of 4 wagons per engine as a rule of thumb. Also, buffer each station with at least one industrial storage bin connected to both inputs/outputs.

[topaz shale]

Just like Factorio. Luckily got plenty of experience there

[warped peak]

For nuclear power plants, which is better to use,Plutonium Fuel Rod or Uranium Fuel Rod?

[hard ivy]

define "better"

Plutonium Rods last twice as long

and you need to burn uranium rods to make plutonium anyway

[topaz shale]

How can I make my doggo kinda stay in a spot? He is getting in the way of my building and I don't want to hurt him on accident.

[hard ivy]

walls

[barren glacier]

does anyone here know the answer to this #design-and-architecture message

[cosmic laurel]

has anyone else encountered a bug where a toggle switch doesnt display an arrow, causes trains not to be able to route, and whne you go to interact it crashes the game?

[maiden dagger]

hello, i just started a new run and all my knowledge come from my 50 hours on Factorio (only factory game i played more than 2 days)

[lusty notch]

Cool

[exotic pilot]

What if I get every single deposit on the map and make a massive factory

[warped peak]

But from what I've been seeing, with uranium you use 20 units/min of uranium, and with plutonium you use 40 units/min of uranium, so why would you use plutonium first? It's absurd, right?

[lusty notch]

Air quality decreases significantly

[exotic pilot]

Huh

No

[hard ivy]

plutonium uses 0 extra uranium ore (unless you want it to). it's made from uranium waste and some extra stuff

it just depends what you want, really. if you don't make any plutonium, you'll have to store uranium waste, which is a pain

plutonium, when burned, creates waste too, but much less

and plutonium can be sunk to get rid of waste permanently

[exotic pilot]

Does the planet even have air we have to wear a mask the entire time

[hard ivy]

lag

[warped peak]

Okay, thanks. I'll take a closer look at it tomorrow.

[lusty notch]

Machines produce smoke which is made from combustion which uses oxegyn

[slender quest]

Judging by blue hue of sky and wind noises, it has air. But the mask doesn't protect from poisonous gas without filter.

[topaz shale]

Welcome to the club. I have around nearly 900 hours in factorio and this game is definitely different but it is fun.

[lusty notch]

There is also water which broken down contains oxygen

[ashen trail]

so can trains actually be faster than just running belts? or are they slower but at the benefit of cleanliness?

[exotic pilot]

So is it toxic air or something

[frail sleet]

depends on the belt speed

[hard ivy]

faster in what way?

[slender quest]

They can be as fast, and cost less materials than lots of belts.

Still, 1 station is limited by 2 in/out belts speed, but you can have multiple stations.

[ashen trail]

like mk5 belts... you would have whatever the belt speed is, plus loading/unloading time... where if you bypass trains, and just run belts directly into the factory from the source, you don't have train load/unload times

[remote lake]

question, if I enable advanced game settings in one save, do I lose the ability to unlock achievements in all saves, or just the one that has those settings enabled? I have my vanilla world that I play but I wanted to make a separate save to do planning and stuff without build cost but I don't want to lose the ability to get steam achievements

[hard ivy]

use enough wagons and you can match the belt input, no matter what it is

[slender quest]

Just one with AGS.

[remote lake]

thank you!

[frail sleet]

building time: belts take less time to set up

density: belts are much higher (move more resources in less space)

transit time A to B: belts go up to 86km/h without stopping or 27s load/unload

power: trains use, belts don't

train is mostly for cosmetic/thematic reasons

but yes you can transport however much you want via either.

[atomic notch]

Mine isnt low fps just low graphics lol

[topaz shale]

I freaking love the curved belts. Makes having long beltways actually look nice.

[frail sleet]

I found a belt that wouldn't connect via default or straight, but worked with curve. That was also really nice

[topaz shale]

Yeah having to go through the various different belts to find the one that would work is always such a nice feeling.

[dense violet]

this game has a very different design, not much from factorio will help

[maiden dagger]

i saw

[maiden dagger]

yeah, in first person and with 3D buildings will be hard to plan production chains

[topaz shale]

There are a ton of in-game tools that will help with production planning and what not. You got this

[true mulch]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production for planning
https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/interactive-map for the map

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Online_tools for the full list

[topaz shale]

Man, steel this time around was a lot easier to actually set up than last time. Probably since I decided to build big last time instead of just enough to get by.

And now the depot is unlocked

Time to get those hard drives found now that I need to start finding specific recipes.

[dense violet]

it's less that it's first person 3d, it's more that factorio is built around inconsistent production with finite resources

satisfactory is consistent production with infinite resources

[dense violet]

and those links Ondar shared are very useful for you

[fast roost]

how do i turn in hypertube branches'

[hard ivy]

E

[fast roost]

thx

[manic patio]

is there a way to snap the lifts from conveyor floor holes directly onto mergers?

i tried to place a lift, snap merger onto lift, then reattatch the lift to the merger but it still doesnt work

[hard ivy]

nudge the merger into place first, then connect the lift? maybe?

[manic patio]

i tried that but items still gets stuck 😭

[hard ivy]

connect with a tiny belt?

[manic patio]

ye thats wat im doing but i dont like the space

[hard ivy]

But I think it should work

putting the merger 1 tick closer doesn't work?

[manic patio]

no...maybe im doing it wrong

[silk ocean]

I'm still salty about my Cloudy Diamonds experience... it has clouded my judgement on diamonds xD

[hard ivy]

I never tried doing this hole to merger/splitter so idk, maybe it can't be done

[slow kindle]

Can anyone send me a crafting tree for radio control unit? I don't understand how to use the calculator ...

[obtuse tangle]

anyone know why once i updated my drivers i lost 60fps in satisfactory? down to like 40fps if im lucky

[silk ocean]

DDU / clean?

[hard ivy]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=BJ42glA5IRGSMsr5lV5I

[slow kindle]

Thank youuu

[manic patio]

got it to work, idk wat i did differently but it works now 🤷

[obtuse tangle]

what program do you suggest for that?

[hard ivy]

... DDU

[silk ocean]

DDU

There is only one

[obtuse tangle]

lmao oh... i just noticed multiple sites have it thats all figured it was different

[silk ocean]

What a YT video how to do it

or it just won't solve anything

[acoustic shell]

do you need multiple frieght cars to load AND unload at a station

[hard ivy]

yes

a single wagon cannot both be loaded and unloaded at the same station

you could use 2 stations tho

[pallid vortex]

Setup 2 in a raw for load and unload

[brisk stream]

god i fucking love satisfactory

makes me feel autistic

#screenshots

[topaz shale]

Explosives, my beloved

[cosmic laurel]

just realized you can edit timetables to only load/unload specific items ;-;

[acoustic shell]

if I put waste/byproduct water into a buffer can I mix it with extracted water fine

[brisk stream]

i am so fucking good at procrastinating yall dont even understand

[hard ivy]

Good luck with that 👍

[acoustic shell]

does it work?

[dense violet]

not well, or consistently

[hard ivy]

Theoretically? Yes. In practice? Breaks easily

[dense violet]

be prepared to have to rip it up and build it again and fiddle with it a lot

[acoustic shell]

like I have 2 seperate buffers, one for fresh, one for waste then I mix them to use in refineries

[gritty spire]

if head lift is less than 10 meters, does the game even recognize the elevation change?

[cosmic laurel]

your numbers have to be exactly right otherwise you end up clogging the system

[hard ivy]

And it breaks if it stops working at 100% for whatever reason

[acoustic shell]

is there any optimal use for the water generated by making scrap?

[dense violet]

don't.

[dense violet]

fluid wants to travel down, so elevation changes matter

[gritty spire]

so if my pipe increases in elevation by the slightest bit, it can change my rate of flow?

[dense violet]

depends on the layout. If the change is within the manifold it can cause issues

[cosmic laurel]

i cycle the water back in to the system, you just have to make sure your numbers line up perfectly. and i add a fluid buffer i can flush incase i mess up xd

[gritty spire]

no im just trying to squeeze the extractors from our convo in that small lake in the bottom grasslands and it will NOT be pretty lol

[dense violet]

if it's coal gens, they can probably handle 'not pretty'. I really recommend keeping future piping pretty if you care about flow though

[shadow isle]

is it like a super rare animation for pioneer to throw away the rebar gun on reload?

cuz mine just did

never seen it happen before

[slender quest]

Yeah, probably.

[wet moth]

does enabling keep inventory disable steam achievments? cant find solid answer online,

[dense violet]

is it part of Advanced game settings? no? then no

[ruby mountain]

interesting, can double xenozappers and scroll between them for faster attacks

[hard ivy]

too bad it doesn't work with the rebar gun

the reload gets canceled when you scroll

[modest solstice]

hi chat

[peak wasp]

hi!

[eternal plume]

👋

[rough swift]

where would yall recommend I build? I'm on phase 2 going to phase 3, my power is entirely based on fuel

[sage jay]

Northwest lake near grassy field is a good coal gen location

[dense violet]

where you build is entirely dependent on what you're tryign to build and how.

[gilded goblet]

750 quickwire a minute seems okay

[peak wasp]

thats alot lmao, i think im the same

i have 5 machines at once so how many is that a min?

[gilded goblet]

clock speed?

[peak wasp]

normal speed

[gilded goblet]

12*5 then

[peak wasp]

ok whats the awnser? :3

[gilded goblet]

60/min I think

[peak wasp]

heck yeeeee

[gilded goblet]

wait

mb, 300/min

I did how many ingots you needed a min LMAO

[peak wasp]

lol

[gilded goblet]

had to drop to 500 bc I didn't realize for my smelters I needed 450/min I have 300/min cuz it's a normal cat node

[peak wasp]

heck ye

[quiet gust]

cries in pure caterium

[gilded goblet]

LMAO

twin never responds to my dms' 💔

[quiet gust]

iwas battlefielding

[gilded goblet]

fair

wanna vc

[quiet gust]

nah im bouta be eating dinner soon

[gilded goblet]

alr

[shy mulch]

Glad I did the maths before starting my new factory. Gonna be cutting it fine on SAM. Almost using all of it, might need to change things around a bit to free some up if I want to make more things

[gilded goblet]

like, all the sam on the map?

[shy mulch]

Yeh 😬

[gilded goblet]

:(

why, just fucking why

[quiet gust]

cause sam goes quick

[gilded goblet]

fair

[agile grotto]

Losing all my copper to copper powder

[shy mulch]

Need to make lots of stuff

[gilded goblet]

i was using a sam node to make the sam constructor and to get my depos maxed

[shy mulch]

Copper powder eats so much copper but using pure ingots helps a lot

[gilded goblet]

i'm fucking SCARED for copper powder, cuz I'm going to have to deal with it soon

[shy mulch]

Yeah when you start working out how many machines you need, it just keeps going and going

[agile grotto]

For sure it’s just the ratios. 4 refineries OC’d to 200% = 1 constructor. Hungry recipe

[gilded goblet]

also, people of satisfactory that ACTUALLY know the game, should I ->

A : Setup a TRICKLE pasta automation that produces like 1 or 2 per minute, then just let it run for Phase 4 & 5 parts.

B : Baby feed whatever it uses and wait

[wicked nacelle]

One pure node and pure ingots is plenty to beat the game.

Pasta is needed as an input in last tier so you want to automate it eventually

[gilded goblet]

it's used as an input for phase 4 and 5 like mentioned, yea

[quiet gust]

and for severel non space levator reasons

[wicked nacelle]

But for elevator you may want to sloop it

[gilded goblet]

I was just asking if I should just get nukes rn and trickle it (bc I have NO plan to complete phase 4 anytime soon) or just baby feed it when I want to progress a phase

because if I trickle it right now i can likely get all 1100 that you need before I want to progress

then whatever else it's used for

[wicked nacelle]

One pure copper node gets you 4.5 pasta/m? that’s good enough for most people forever

[shy mulch]

1 or 2 per minute is quite a lot of nuclear pasta btw. If you're talking about trickling it into a storage to manually feed later. Doing 0.5 per minute is plenty

[gilded goblet]

mk2 or mk3 miner?

[wicked nacelle]

Don’t listen to that. It’s not plenty

[gilded goblet]

I'd do 1-2/min unless I can get more out of like single nodes and drones

i want to drone in the resources that aren't within 300m, but entirely not sure what shit I need because I haven't modeled it out in modeler yet

just wanted to get an opinion

[wicked nacelle]

Copper powder is great to drone. 500 stacks

[gilded goblet]

mhm

lemme model it and come back

bc nuclear pasta sounds scary to automate icl

[quiet gust]

its not scracy its just tedious

[wicked nacelle]

The conversion cube is way harder

[gilded goblet]

i'm assuming thats t9

bc ik 2 unlock in t9 but dont necessarily want to know the names

[quiet gust]

thats the thing that you need to make pasta

[gilded goblet]

ahhhhhh

[quiet gust]

that used fmf

[gilded goblet]

i see

[shy mulch]

I was making 0.5/min at the point when I completed phase 5. Was no problem at all. Scaled up a lot now just because I wanted to, absolutely not necessary though

[gilded goblet]

wait it's just a pcc and copper powder?

half the fucking thing is just automating copper powder

[shy mulch]

Yes

[gilded goblet]

but i KNOOOOOOOW the pcc is going to be a pain in the ASS if it's that little of a recipe

[quiet gust]

half the thing is getting enough power to rubn them. Protip if you do half clock speed and double the machines you save 20% power

[quiet gust]

its just 1 fmf and 2 parts radio control units per 1 cube

thats the main use of the cubes but some of the best alts use it as well

[acoustic shell]

why dont these pipes actually fill with water

[quiet gust]

i did my first load balancer today which took 2 minutes cause its just 2.5 to 2 and .5

[acoustic shell]

like I have 200m/pm flow rate and then the next pipe segment

its just 0

[quiet gust]

did you destory and rebuild

[shy mulch]

Headlift?

[acoustic shell]

the part with the pump and headlift is flowing at about 200pm

the straight part going into a fluid buffer then a refinery is 0

if I flush it works for like a minute

[gilded goblet]

i see

I could literally just plug that into my fmf hmf factory

[wicked nacelle]

don't use fluid buffers for anything except train stations

they don't work the way you think they do (unless you've studied the fluid guide)

[acoustic shell]

still why is my flow 0 when the pipe right before it is full and has a flow of like 300

[wicked nacelle]

start by getting rid of the fluid buffer.

troubleshoot the simplest solution not an unnecessarily complex one

[gilded goblet]

does fluid buffer like kill flowrate?

[wicked nacelle]

it does things that common sense wouldn't generally associate with it, yes

[gilded goblet]

I see

[wicked nacelle]

There is only one reason to ever use them and that's train stations. and make sure you don't have any valves ever

[swift kayak]

anyone set up the satisfactory plus mod before and had it take 50 years to dl? i have superfast internet, yet it is downloading at 100kbps

[rigid glen]

I would delete and rebuild the empty section.

[wicked nacelle]

download what?

[acoustic shell]

ive done that but it always ends up at 0 flow rate after like a minute

[rigid glen]

Sorry, i'd need to see the setup to maybe spot a problem,

[acoustic shell]

I put the setup in screenshots

[deft drum]

Bauxite?

[rigid glen]

You need a second pump, move that one down and add a 2nd. Divide that section into three

[wicked nacelle]

there's water above the pump

[acoustic shell]

yea

[wicked nacelle]

the screenshot is insufficient

[deft drum]

But not at the foundation

And yeah managing water in a Bauxite build is always "fun"

[rigid glen]

Rather than wonder why, just add the pump and move on, it should solve it easy

[deft drum]

When you get it working you almost don't want to touch it again or risk it breaking

[wicked nacelle]

why do you think it would solve it?

[dense violet]

what's going on now?

[wicked nacelle]

when there's already water above the pump?

[dense violet]

your pump might not be low enough

[swift kayak]

because fluids are whack and pumps generally solve everything

[wicked nacelle]

no

[rigid glen]

shurgs I would never even bother building that version because I know how random water is. That's a large vertical change, why are we being cheap with the pumps?

[quiet gust]

Not rly

[wicked nacelle]

pumps do one specific thing and they only help when they are needed

[wicked nacelle]

pumps only do what pumps do. They aren't magic. They add headlift. No headlift seems to be needed here

[swift kayak]

did you put the current pump exactly where it said it had to go for the headlift?

[rigid glen]

I agree in theory, it just doesn't always work that way irl

[quiet gust]

In fact knowing loops and not maxing out the pipe fix most problems

[wicked nacelle]

I've found it does.

[rigid glen]

And I've found it doesn't, so here we are.

[wicked nacelle]

telling people to throw random pumps is just spreading confusion

pumps are a rare part of this game that actually work as intended

[rigid glen]

I'm fine if someone else finds a different answer, but until then, a pump does the job

[wicked nacelle]

sigh

[rigid glen]

Good thing I'm not holding a gun to his head and forcing him to use it

[violet pecan]

What if Hypertubes had a + junction alongside the Y junction?

[swift kayak]

i've had this kinda issue before and even though i placed the pump exactly where the game said it had to go for the headlift, moving it down a little bit resolved the problem

[acoustic shell]

i put the pump at the base ima see if it consistently works

[wicked nacelle]

absolutely that happens. But you know what doesn't happen? the water gets past the pump that's too high

[acoustic shell]

should I be producing exactly what I need or is going a little over fine

or should I go over and use a valve

[quiet gust]

Don't use valves

[steady glade]

depends, is it a water pipe?

[quiet gust]

Ever

[steady glade]

if its a water pipe out of extractors, it doenst matter how much more you produce

if its an output from a refinery, blender or something, ensure you consume it all

[quiet gust]

If it's water crude oil or nitrogen it's fine. Otherwise produce what you need

[acoustic shell]

its a extractor, and I need 192/m but I am putting 200 so it has a little boost

[steady glade]

its cool

[deft drum]

Valves are like the forward assist on M16s and M4s

The better solution is making sure you clock the machines properly, and for Bauxite making sure the machines later down the line don't stop which would then fill up the outputs

[steady glade]

*using 2 underclocked machines is better than one overclocked if you have enough deep water space

[rigid glen]

Just wait till they try to loop in the waste water 😛

[acoustic shell]

I already did that stuff, I was in length taught how to ratio it

[deft drum]

Alternative to that is segregating the two sources of water

[wicked nacelle]

I forget that thing is even there and then I look at it and I'm like "wtf is that?"

[acoustic shell]

thanks Im pretty sure moving the pump down worked

and also I guess I forgot to overclock my coal lol

[wicked nacelle]

I thought you said it worked for a while before stopping before?

[earnest ingot]

im back with more screenshots of my modded playthrough

i love how things look like circuits

[deft drum]

The dubious "Jam Enhancer"

[alpine pier]

Imagine running a power plant that needs 3,100 uranium /min

[storm talon]

Built my first real factory, put it in screenshots.

Gotta figure out how to simplify but haven't done so yet.

Also I'm about to hit my coal power limit, I've gotta set up another power plant.

[rustic otter]

wheres ur current one?

and what section u in?

[storm talon]

Desert.

Current one's on the beach next to a bunch of cliffs.

The nearest one away is in the forest biome. 🥲

[rustic otter]

rockey or smooth?

[storm talon]

Rocky desert sadly

You can take a look at my screenshots.

Err, my screenshot*

[rustic otter]

u can go up to the 4 normal nodes in the top right ish of the screenshot and set up another coal plant there

[storm talon]

Also figured out how to manifold assemblers today

\o/

[rustic otter]

its an easy 1200 mw

[storm talon]

That's not what the resource locator says. On the other hand I can just pump out a bunch of MK2 miners and maybe get a few extra generators in there 🤔

[gilded goblet]

Why does Ficsonium rods even exist

[storm talon]

But I'll look again regardless

[rustic otter]

to burn with no waste

[gilded goblet]

ahh

[sturdy jacinth]

can you fit 6 constructors and 1 assembler into 1 floor of a mk1 blueprinter?

[storm talon]

I'll take a look

[rustic otter]

if u get to the point of making ficsonium fuel rods u might as well burn them

[gilded goblet]

i was sitting here and i was like wait why doesn't everybody just use plutonium it's the highest MJ per rod

[gilded goblet]

i dont think so

you can if you stack the constructors tho

[storm talon]

@sturdy jacinth Afaik you can three constructors side by side in the MK1

[rustic otter]

u can if u crunch it

[dense violet]

no, ficsnium is for people who can't stop themselves from burning plutonium rods

[rustic otter]

also think vertically as well

[gilded goblet]

ah

[sturdy jacinth]

i know, im just lazy and i dont like one blueprint to be more than a floor

[storm talon]

Three floors of constructors is all you can fit, yes

[dense violet]

then do it in 2 blueprints and click.. twice

[rustic otter]

dealing with plutonium wast adds so much more complexity its not even funny

[sturdy jacinth]

wh.... WHAT

[gilded goblet]

ah

[rustic otter]

or use vertical build mode for foundations

[storm talon]

You can stack MK1 blueprinters side by side btw

[rustic otter]

u can save it as a temporary

[gilded goblet]

or just make a 3 con blueprint and put 2 bp's on top of eachother, then throw the assembler to the side

[storm talon]

I don't think BPs are going to be the endgame for me until I get the jetpack

I just can't think that far ahead. Can't brain.

[gilded goblet]

real

just wait till bro discovers hoverpack, he's gonna be in love

[storm talon]

That's what I mean

[gilded goblet]

ah

jetpack is meh for building hoverpacks where it's at

[rustic otter]

jetpack is for exploring hoverpack is for building

[gilded goblet]

taking a look at my modular frame factory I did so much wrong 😂

[storm talon]

Yeah hoverpack. Until I can get a good look at the area my factory isn't going to be built using primary blueprints. I'm just gonna have to spaghetti a little here and there.

[gilded goblet]

it was my first large scale fac, 10 per minute

[storm talon]

I have no idea how I'm gonna do phase 2

[gilded goblet]

now I need to build factories out my ass because I haven't automated like 90% of the stuff I need to

[storm talon]

It's gonna take forever lol

[gilded goblet]

phase 2 is what parts 500 versatile frameworks or 1000 and some other stuff i forgot

[dense violet]

just combine the things you're already making into the new items

[storm talon]

1000 versatile frameworks + 1000 smart plating + 500(?) smart wiring

[gilded goblet]

automated wiring

[storm talon]

yeah that.

[gilded goblet]

yea thats not bad, wait till you see p3 requirements

[storm talon]

Lmao that's why I'm building in advance.

[dense violet]

keep storing the items you're making, lots of them. Then just put those items into containers for hte space parts

[gilded goblet]

nah but just bitch feed assemblers

[gilded goblet]

this^

[storm talon]

Yeah

[gilded goblet]

thats what I did for p3, never automate elevator parts cuz 90% of them are going to get sinked 😂

might not be a bad thing tho

[storm talon]

I'd like to do it in a smarter way. 😵 But it's gonna be harddddd

[gilded goblet]

automating space parts is like, useless icl

unless it's nuclear pasta which is used for other things

[storm talon]

I'll figure it out

[gilded goblet]

wait turbo heavy fuel is a crazy alt no?

[wicked nacelle]

it's a fun end game challenge

[storm talon]

Maybe just feed them from storage containers.

[dense violet]

dumping stuff in containers is probably smart >.>

[gilded goblet]

cuts out an ENTIRE step

[dense violet]

not hugely , no

[storm talon]

Yeah that's what I mean

[gilded goblet]

really?

cuz it completely removes the need for fuel

[dense violet]

its far far less oil efficient

[gilded goblet]

ahhhh

i see

[dense violet]

better to just make diluted fuel

[gilded goblet]

cuz I was thinking it would be better bc you refine into HOR throw compacted into it then have turbo, but now I see the problem

[dense violet]

its fine if you just need a little bit of it

but if you want a power station it chews through oil

[gilded goblet]

ah

I was thinking of making another fuel gen plant, cuz my current runs 10GW on turbo

[wicked nacelle]

If you don't use oil for power then there's WAAY more oil then you'd ever want

it's sized to be used for power

[gilded goblet]

make a MASSIVE fuel plant in the top left using rocket fuel make like 50GW lol

i heard that rocket doesn't require any pumps bc it's classed as a gas

[dense violet]

eh RF is boring as balls

[gilded goblet]

hmmmm

what is the best fuel then, turbo?

[wicked nacelle]

scaling nuclear is boring as balls

no, rocket fuel by far for power

[dense violet]

if you want a big power set up? nuclear.

instead of 500 fuel gens, you can put down 50 nuclear

[gilded goblet]

i see, i guess it is honestly a personal preferance

[dense violet]

rocket fuel really isn't any different from diluted fuel. Every processing step just converts other resources to more oil effectively

[wicked nacelle]

my current game is 280GW rocket fuel 450GW nuclear

[gilded goblet]

jesus christ

[wicked nacelle]

I don't know if those numbers exactly line up with my power grid -- I haven't measured all of them, but here's the graph https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/553550313533997057/1404315124709195856/image.png?ex=689abde0&is=68996c60&hm=7fd4a6ed342617c3c01eab365a49377a1b2db34a5bc3da2c70ab7325e5bc9e52&

[topaz shale]

I have no idea why it took me this long to not automate the space elevator parts. Just hand feed and somersloops and maybe a power shard or 2 and bam, quick 1000 versatile frameworks.

[trim forge]

Are fluid wagons still worse at fluid transport than packaging the fluid and shipping it like that?

[gilded goblet]

what the fuck do you have that causes you to have a max comsume of 1.2 TW

[wicked nacelle]

liquid fluids it's exactly the same. gases are either 2:1 or 4:1 better to package

[dense violet]

they were about the same before

[wicked nacelle]

a lot of buildings

[gilded goblet]

interesting

[trim forge]

I thought I remembered fluid wagons being really tiny pre 1.0

[wicked nacelle]

I don't think they changed them.

[dense violet]

yes but you needed extra cars to bring back the empties

for packaged fluids

[wicked nacelle]

yes, even efficiency for liquids includes the return car for empties -- so 1 packaged car of full vs 2 cars of liquid

[grave panther]

Anyone have an idea why I'm only getting 3 - 6 wood per tree I chop down?

it doesn't matter the size

[wicked nacelle]

are you setting it to single or area mode with chainsaw? If you want wood, make sure it's in area mode

[grave panther]

its on area but I'm just confused why each tree only provides about 5 wood

[wicked nacelle]

what number were you expecting? wood turns into a lot of biofuel

[grave panther]

idk I just remember getting a lot more

maybe I just remember wrong

[wicked nacelle]

I"ll go chop down a tree

picking up some roots on the ground was 3 wood. chopping down a single tree I got 19 wood

so yeah, that's weird for you shrug

[grave panther]

it could be the kinds of trees im chopping down

[wicked nacelle]

mine was a normal tree looking thing

[grave panther]

mine was a big one in the rocky desert

[wicked nacelle]

I'm south-southwest of the swamp edge of the map by the big lake

[topaz shale]

I'm trying to decide between stitched iron plate or bolted iron plate. I'm leaning towards bolted only because the final machine needs a lot less machines to get the same amount though stitched is just overall cheaper but uses copper.

[wicked nacelle]

if you have iron wire, stitched is great. if you have cast screws, bolted is great

without those... probably stitched

[topaz shale]

Yeah I'm hard drive hunting and so far have found neither iron wire or cast screws. I guess which ever ones I get first will decide everything else.

[wicked nacelle]

either way make the screws or wire as you need it, don't build it all up front and try to belt it in. Build some screw machines then some plate machines then some screw machines then some plate machines

[topaz shale]

I'm just making a list of recipes I'm going to try to get to.

[wicked nacelle]

same with wire

[topaz shale]

Yeah I never belt screws or wire. Raw ore goes in, and out comes a product.

[tepid tangle]

ok quick question, if im filling a train should I use the best belt for all outputs even if they are overkill for said output. basically, do mk4s increase throughput of a 30item output. Like do they physically make the items go faster?

[wicked nacelle]

I send in ingots as an input because refineries are too big to include in templates that do other things

[gloomy juniper]

I did a test with the consumption of iron. If you use iron wire and normal iron plate recipe. The stitched iron plate is the cheapest. But the logistics is the most difficult.

[dense violet]

most recipe's value depends on the previous recipes you use.
for example , bolted plate works really well with steel screw

[topaz shale]

True that. I think I have a good list for now.

[wicked nacelle]

you put a industrial container to buffer. Put whatever belt suits your production to fill it but always the best belt between the container and the freight platform

[dense violet]

.. how is it the most difficult? you need less wire pm. So fewer belts

[topaz shale]

Time for bed though. Pretty late here. Will spend the morning before work getting some hard drives researched and then selecting the appropriate recipes.

[tepid tangle]

ah so factorio style ok, thanks!

[wicked nacelle]

every freight platform should have an industrial container buffering either its inputs or outputs because of the pause time when the train is loading/unloading

[gloomy juniper]

True but the splitting is more difficult for iron I think

To make the iron wire

[dense violet]

just clock the machines to what you need

clocking is your single most powerful logistical tool that makes almost everything dead simple

[wicked nacelle]

no, not caring if lights turn yellow is your most powerful logistical tool

[topaz shale]

That is where manifolds come in handy. That and the daisy chain and smart input mod comes in handy as well.

[dense violet]

smart input?

[gloomy juniper]

True so @topaz shale I would suggest the stitched iron plate recipe

[sick dragon]

Don't let ada hear you say that

[wicked nacelle]

ada wants her spaceship built. she doesn't care about anything else

and she's long gone in my game

[topaz shale]

It only lets in around 3 crafts worth of items at a time. Helps to have the manifold setup not take as long to ramp up.

[sick dragon]

And she wants it efficiently

[wicked nacelle]

no, she wants it fast

[sick dragon]

And efficiently

[topaz shale]

The moment I get iron wire, I'll definitely do that.

[dense violet]

you want machines at the front of a manifold to fill up asap. So it spins up faster. It's why using slower input belts on manifolds almost always makes a manifold take longer to spin up

what a pointless mod

[wicked nacelle]

some people hate screws. I've determined I hate pipes. I'm going around and removing as much as possible and replacing with belts

[topaz shale]

That is what the mod does. It makes it so that the machines don't take in more than 3 crafts and so it doesn't need to wait for a full stack to fill before being at full speed. I even make sure to undercooked correctly to have the manifold setup work at full speed. The mod is great and I'm seeing results.

No need to wait for a full stack in the machine.

[wicked nacelle]

It is so pleasant to play this game only caring about as t->oo you don't have to care about things like manifold fill times because you know the amount you get only depends on the rate

[topaz shale]

I think maybe you have the idea that it slows belts down but it doesn't. Just limits how much it can fill.

Faster belts still means faster filling.

And don't even get me started on the daisy chains. Freaking love those.

[wicked nacelle]

I know it's trivial to handcraft with two smart splitters, but I wish smart splitters had high and low priority overflow outputs

[wicked nacelle]

the confidence it gives you to have an plastic/rubber/power oil factory that deals almost entirely in packaged liquids is so relaxing. You want to know what flow you're getting? watch your belts. You want to burn excess fuel for power? Smart splitter

all the normal reliable tools just work

also unpackagers reliably give 600/m pipe flow

belt fed fuel overflow burners at 600 flow rate, no reacharounds requiredhttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/553550313533997057/1404328144877650071/image.png?ex=689aca00&is=68997880&hm=f2fdc444433fff6c92d3f083339e909389a0a520f4bc612dfb5f784617646ad9&

I still need to make my "only turn on extra backup when priority switch shuts off" backup burners with my patented packaged water-blocked priority merger approach fed by containers of stored rocket fuel

[rustic otter]

hey quick question, is it possible to see where the refineries headlift ends exactly?

[exotic pilot]

Why are there no gender options

[rustic otter]

wdym?

[wicked nacelle]

no. It's 10m above the ouput

[exotic pilot]

Why can’t you be a male

[wicked nacelle]

you can't really see your body so don't care

and it's not an overtly feminine model anyhow

[rustic otter]

i always thought of the player model as either a woman or a male

and it isnt a 3rd person game anyways so why would it matter?

[exotic pilot]

Why wouldn’t they have a male model tho

[rustic otter]

it is a male model? and a female? its a mixture of both

[wicked nacelle]

because it doesn't matter and it's a little bit wokish. but it doesn't matter

[wicked nacelle]

pretty sure it's officially female

[rustic otter]

ok thx

[wicked nacelle]

but it's mostly just a goupy mass of arms and legs... clearly not intended to be much more than Pat

[rustic otter]

its a skeleton model with a texture over it

[wicked nacelle]

sure, it's all just bits 🙂

[wicked nacelle]

if it bothers you just think of it as robert paulson 🙂 and every time you die do the chant for your meatloaf

[exotic pilot]

Huh

[rustic otter]

found out that u can snap pumps to be in line with each other so i dont have to manually try

[wicked nacelle]

you sure you're not just snapping them to the headlift point of lined up pumps from before?

[rustic otter]

its the first set of pumps

i already knew that u can snap it to where the headlift ends

[exotic pilot]

Can oil power things use other fuel like turbo or something

[rustic otter]

wdym?

[exotic pilot]

Can the oil power generators use turbo fuel

[rustic otter]

thats the whole purpose

[exotic pilot]

Wdym

[rustic otter]

that and ur jetpack/drone fuel if u want to package some

[exotic pilot]

Ik that but did know if turbo fuel works

[rustic otter]

turbo fuel is a vast more efficient form of normal fuel

it goes from a default of 20 a minute to 7.5 a minute

[exotic pilot]

So it’s slow?

[rustic otter]

no, it consumes less but produces the same amount

if u were making 100 normal fuel a minute u could only power 5. so that means u only get 1250 mw

100 turbo fuel a minute can power a little over 13

thats around 3250 and some more accounting for the underclocked one at the very end

[exotic pilot]

You can’t overclock those tho

[rustic otter]

u can overclock power gens at the cost of them using more fuel

and ofc the power shards it needs to overclock

[reef basin]

it's basically just saving space

[rustic otter]

exactly

[exotic pilot]

So same power but less space used and more materials

[willow glen]

Fuel generators overclock linearly, so at 250% you use 2.5x the fuel and generate 2.5x the power. So yeah it’s just saving space.
Machines that consume power increase their need exponentially, so in addition to saving space there, they also use more power per item made

[exotic pilot]

What about turbo fuel

[rustic otter]

turbo fuel, since the gens need less u can place down more

so it doesnt save space but as far as efficiency it is more efficient

[willow glen]

The same applies to all fuels. Fuel power generators can burn any liquid (or gaseous) fuel; fuel, turbofuel, liquid biofuel, rocket fuel…

[rustic otter]

ionized fuel

[exotic pilot]

Ok so more power from better fuel and less efficient overlocking

[willow glen]

That wouldn’t be visible yet but rocket fuel would be

[rustic otter]

if u can somehow manage the brain hemorhage on making the power shards it could be

[rustic otter]

same effiency of overclocking

[willow glen]

Overclocking doesn’t change efficiency with power generators. Just saves space.

[rustic otter]

u would just need to OC more gens

[exotic pilot]

Ohh

How do you do the wiki thing

[fossil ice]

Official Satisfactory Wiki

This is the totally awesome community driven wiki for Satisfactory!! Come on in and check it out!
<3 @rustic otter

[rustic otter]

exclamation mark wiki and then the name of whatever u want to seach

[exotic pilot]

Is it !wiki

[fossil ice]

Official Satisfactory Wiki

This is the totally awesome community driven wiki for Satisfactory!! Come on in and check it out!
<3 @rustic otter

Official Satisfactory Wiki

This is the totally awesome community driven wiki for Satisfactory!! Come on in and check it out!
<3 @exotic pilot

Official Satisfactory Wiki

This is the totally awesome community driven wiki for Satisfactory!! Come on in and check it out!
<3 @exotic pilot

[rustic otter]

idk how to search things automatically but u can search it once u go there

[exotic pilot]

Bruh

[willow glen]

I’m shocked there isn’t a bot-stuff channel for testing links

[fossil ice]

Official Satisfactory Wiki

This is the totally awesome community driven wiki for Satisfactory!! Come on in and check it out!
<3 @willow glen

[willow glen]

Nope I didn’t do it right either lol.

[urban ember]

mornin'

[boreal musk]

type wikisearch

[willow glen]

!wikisearch fuel-powered generator

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=fuel-powered

[willow glen]

I’ll stop spam, that’s close enough

[exotic pilot]

You don’t even need power shards for the ionised fuel

Or is that harder

[rustic otter]

do u not?

[exotic pilot]

You can use dark matter crystals or something g

[rustic otter]

ionised fuel is the best as far as efficieny, but the hardest to make

[exotic pilot]

!wikisearch ionised_fuel

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=ionised_fuel

[rustic otter]

oh theres an alt

[exotic pilot]

Ye

Is that harder or

[boreal musk]

for jetpack fuel? yes
for power? worse than rocket

[exotic pilot]

Why

[boreal musk]

net negative

youre using more power making those fuels than producing the power

[willow glen]

The power required to make the power shards exceeds the power gained from the difference bwteeen rocket fuel and ionized fuel. In short; rocket fuel better

[rustic otter]

i can see, not a lot more efficient than rocket but the steps it needs to make it can go well into the 10k if u make it big enough

[exotic pilot]

Ohh

[boreal musk]

which is worse in terms of resource efficiency, youre using more SAM and rocket fuel for less ionized

[rustic otter]

and SAM has better use for other things rather than being turned into ionized

[exotic pilot]

This makes me want to make ionised fuel

[boreal musk]

you get more power by converting more uranium with sam

[rustic otter]

what phase r u?

[exotic pilot]

Making 4 right now

[rustic otter]

how were u confused with the turbo fuel thing from earlier then?

[willow glen]

Make ionized fuel but only for jetpack fuel. It’s fun and def worth it over turbo fuel or liquid biofuel, go higher and farther

[exotic pilot]

Never tried putting it in fuel gen before

[rustic otter]

what were u using it for then?

also it has the term fuel in it

[exotic pilot]

Jet pack

[willow glen]

I’m pretty sure when you unlock turbofuel ADA mentions it can be used for power, along with “long distance trucker fantasies”

[exotic pilot]

Yeah nothing to do with making power

[sand pasture]

hey i need some help

[exotic pilot]

I’m going to make rocket fuel soon

[rustic otter]

can be used for power

[willow glen]

huh I could be misremembering then. Rocket fuels better anyway, so it

[rustic otter]

yeah whats up

[sand pasture]

if i already have a world with some progress in the easiest area because im really new and then i find out that the rocky desert is a better starting area should i start a new world and go there

[rustic otter]

what phase r u?

[sand pasture]

phase 1

[rustic otter]

not even done with the smart plating yet?

[sand pasture]

no

[rustic otter]

then go ahead

[sand pasture]

is it a good idea

[rustic otter]

but dont let stuff like yt and all of that spoil everything

[exotic pilot]

My first world is my main but I only play with my friend so I made a new one in desert as well

[rustic otter]

i personally like the desert dunes cause theres a lot more iron and copper there but its difficult until u get foundations

[sand pasture]

where should i start

cause i think the grass area is a little slow

[willow glen]

by phase 3 or 4 you’ll be all over the map anyway so initial starting location isn’t the biggest deal.

[rustic otter]

u can also just destroy the hub and take all the resources u currently have and go on foot if u want

[sand pasture]

true but

my friend says the desert dunes is too hard but i might try and prove him wrong

[rustic otter]

early game as far as getting up to the smart plating is a little slow

[exotic pilot]

What’s the hardest starting area

[rustic otter]

do it in spite

[sand pasture]

bet

[peak wasp]

desert dunes is great for late tier gameplay. really hard for early game

[rustic otter]

northern forst

[peak wasp]

you need foundations everywhere in desert dunes. Go for northern forest you spawn next to 4 pure iron nodes

[willow glen]

do not start in Dune Desert till you’ve done oil at least once. It’ll be a major quit moment

[peak wasp]

^

[sand pasture]

could you join a call with me decker if you dont mind i just wanna talk to someone while i play

[exotic pilot]

Thought that was

[peak wasp]

Seriously dune desert is great for extra resources late tier to cart to your center factory

[rustic otter]

well thats why its advertiesed as an experienced pioneer starting point

i need to stop procrastinating with my pipes

[boreal musk]

funnily enough i find dune desert easier than rocky

[rustic otter]

if any of yall need me just ping

[exotic pilot]

What’s the best way to transport stuff far away

[rustic otter]

trains/drones

[willow glen]

well, for oil you have either that bad patch nearby, which won’t last long, and has no water nearby. it’s much more hostile than the islands, and is farther (likely needing trains instead of trucks or belts)

[lofty oyster]

was there a update today? I have a 3.72GB update or am I missing something else?

[willow glen]

Or spire coast/blue crater, blue crater is thru swamp… no. So spire coast it is. And that’s far

[exotic pilot]

But don’t drones only go to 2 different ports

[rustic otter]

are u trying to make multiple drops/pickups?

[exotic pilot]

I don’t know

Also is it weird that I want every deposit connected to one factory

[rustic otter]

thats called a mega factory and no

[exotic pilot]

Have people done that

[rustic otter]

unless ur trying to use that one ore to make only one part

[rustic otter]

theres people with 2k+ hours that are still working on it

[exotic pilot]

Oh

Bet

[exotic pilot]

I wanna make every part

[rustic otter]

thats fair, just remember u need to distribute properly

and also get ur DD maxed

[boreal musk]

not much of a problem, the only resource i struggle with is bauxite since the nearest one is in swamp

[exotic pilot]

Dd?

[rustic otter]

dimensional depot?

[exotic pilot]

Ohh the home depot

[rustic otter]

yeah, u realistically need to just automate enough for the max rate it can upload with a bunch of storage behind it

[exotic pilot]

Can you make home depot output

[rustic otter]

u can then save a lot of resources for harder parts like HMF andelctronic componets

[rustic otter]

no, the whole reason is for cload storage to be used to drag and drop parts and build directly out of it, if there was an output there would be a lot less of a need for trains and drones

[exotic pilot]

Makes sense

[sand pasture]

hey im at the point now where im making reinforced iron plates and rotors very slowly should i actually make a new game and start at the rocky desert

[exotic pilot]

Use power shards

[rustic otter]

go ahead

[exotic pilot]

Or that

[rustic otter]

power shards also increase demand

[sand pasture]

ty

[exotic pilot]

Ig

[languid rampart]

can anyone gift me the money for the game on steam?

[rustic otter]

#rules

[languid rampart]

im so desperate idrc

[rustic otter]

ask a friend or smth, ask ur parents, if u buy yourself get small job mowing lawns, times runnong out to mow yards cause its going to start getting colder

[abstract trail]

Getting colder???

[sand pasture]

im on rocky desert rn and im not having demand issues so far

[languid rampart]

its already cold for me. pouring outside rn

[abstract trail]

Im literally burning

[rustic otter]

idk its august after this month its prob gonna get colder, hopefully anyways

[rustic otter]

u in the southern hemisphere?

[abstract trail]

Where i live its so hot

[languid rampart]

yeah asked friends and parents already.

[languid rampart]

yeah australia

[rustic otter]

do some chores

[languid rampart]

wish that would work

[abstract trail]

You get paid for chores?

[rustic otter]

start being nice for a while, they might soften up

[rustic otter]

no

[abstract trail]

Thats real? I thought it was a movie thing

[languid rampart]

What do u think ive been doing for the last 3 months

[languid rampart]

It is

[rustic otter]

just mow a couple lawns after it gets dry again

[languid rampart]

guess im going to have to wait a while then

[abstract trail]

Sue them for child labor frfr

[languid rampart]

thats a pretty good idea. Expecpt then id need money for a house not this game

[abstract trail]

Better idea

How about

[rustic otter]

content creation. start streaming or post yt vids. after a while u can get some money

[languid rampart]

isnt it like 1000 subs or smth for monotazation?

[rustic otter]

500

[languid rampart]

It is?

[rustic otter]

unless they made it 1000

[abstract trail]

Sue them for child neglect

[languid rampart]

i swear they did. 500 for donos i think

[languid rampart]

Then i have nowwhere to live still

[rustic otter]

cps will find u a place, might not be able to keep ur pc tho. idk what will happen

[languid rampart]

yeah lol. but cant live without my pc

[abstract trail]

You can but you can sue them for emotional distress

[rustic otter]

i doubt duing over 30 bucks would gain the sway the judge

just wait for a sal or smth, wishlisting it tells u when it goes on sale

[languid rampart]

ican i have more doable ideas without suing my parents

[languid rampart]

$60 for me

[rustic otter]

huh?

[abstract trail]

Isnt it 40$?

[rustic otter]

i keep forgetting its 40

[abstract trail]

Yeah but suing is bette4

[languid rampart]

im in aus. Different currency remember?

[languid rampart]

but WAY harder

[rustic otter]

australia?

[languid rampart]

yeah

[rustic otter]

so how tf is it raining?

and u dont have neighbors

[abstract trail]

The demon creatures casted rain

[languid rampart]

is winter and my neighbours have kids to do it for them

[abstract trail]

Sue them for child labor too

[rustic otter]

idk what the minimum age for working in aus is

[languid rampart]

$14 but im to young

[rustic otter]

u are atleast 13 right?

13 is the mininimum for discord ToS

[abstract trail]

Age or wage

[rustic otter]

age

[abstract trail]

I think they thought u ment wage due to the $

[rustic otter]

its also 14 in australia apparently

as far as wage its 24.95 for minimum wage

[languid rampart]

yeah 14

[rustic otter]

then why did u say 14 but im too young?

[languid rampart]

minumun age is 14 and 9 months i turned 14 2 days ago

[rustic otter]

oh ok

also during that time of quiet i realized how sad it can be just not talking to anyone

[languid rampart]

yeah sorry i had to do smth

[rustic otter]

naw u good

[south lion]

Satisfactory chat dead? Impossible

[rustic otter]

im still here

also it can be dead for an hour

everyones just building their factory now that no one has anytthing to argue about or talk

[south lion]

Welp I'm not

[rustic otter]

what u want?

[south lion]

I'm not home and I wanna build factories so bad

[rustic otter]

im trying to figure out how to split 720 fuel/min into 32 refineries

i might know now actually

[twin bay]

Has it been estimated when the console release is happening

[rustic otter]

i think november

[stray loom]

#screenshots message
Is it bad when your logistics area is almost as big as the rest of the floor? 😄

[south lion]

At least it's not a belt tornado

[rustic otter]

thats pretty clean, but what part are u making?

[stray loom]

Steel and copper ingots for my building materials factory

I definitely made it harder on myself with some of the choices I made but it's been a fun puzzle to solve so far. The throughput on the alloy ingot recipes combined with only mark 5 belts means I have to split stuff odd like the 3 to 5 setup to bring in iron ore and the 5 to 8 splitter/merger pyramid to carry off the iron ingots to make steel

[rustic otter]

theres tutorials on load balancers if u want to do that

[storm talon]

I've gotta get out of Factorio-brain

[rustic otter]

i go a little insane every minute im not talking to someone about smth

[south lion]

Sad

[rustic otter]

im making a turbo fuel, rubber, polymer resin, and a plastic factory in the blue crater and i have been thinking about nothing except numbers this past 2 hours

i havent even set up all of the compacted coal i need

[south lion]

Satisfactory at it's finest

[rustic otter]

i have yet to begin on the polymer resin part yet

back to belting sulfur

[south lion]

Ima spend like the whole night in satisfactory when I come back home

2 weeks wasted on doing nothing cuz of my mom

[rustic otter]

u go on vacation or smth?

[south lion]

Yh

[rustic otter]

where

[south lion]

Well it's not rlly vacation cuz we are still in our country

It was my grandma's birthday party but we are here a week for no reason

[rustic otter]

as in yall arent sightseeing, going to the local restaurants, any of that?

if so id be pissed

[south lion]

Yeah none of that

I just wanna be home and do my own thing

My mom loves to waste my time like this tho

[silk ocean]

Don't go xD

[south lion]

Can't lol

I would if I could but it ain't that simple

[silk ocean]

Take the PC with you xD

[south lion]

I can barely pick it up

I have a laptop too but it's old

[silk ocean]

Admittedly the not going option seems the best

[south lion]

Yeah

[rustic otter]

i doubt ur mom would let u do that tho

[silk ocean]

Fake a terrible case of food poisoning?

[rustic otter]

shed take him to the hospital most likely

[silk ocean]

To discover nothing wrong XD

Tell her how much money she will save by not going?

[south lion]

She wont

It's fine I'm just not gonna sleep when I come back

[silk ocean]

Something to look forward to in 2 weeks time

[rustic otter]

i can make 80 fuel gens with the turbo plant im building

thats 20k mw

[south lion]

I still gotta complete phase 2 for oil stuff for new power plant

I'm running a bit low on my coal power

[rustic otter]

second playthru?

[south lion]

Nah first

I have like 80h only

[rustic otter]

i ended up having to make another coal plant

rookie numbers

[shy mulch]

I keep coming up with ideas for new big factories, building 90% of it then having a new idea for something bigger. This new one I'm starting will be the last, because I literally can't make bigger without completely ripping out half my world lol

[rustic otter]

procrastination lord really fits it doesnt it

[shy mulch]

yep ><

[rustic otter]

to an extent cause u actually execute it at least

[shy mulch]

I do get things working - eventually

[rustic otter]

i have 16 refineries lined up and apparently and an 18.75 when combined it makes an amazing 300 a minute

first time i felt happiness during this

[shy mulch]

300 a minute of what?

[rustic otter]

turbofuel

overall 600

ill send a screenie if u want to see it so far

[exotic pilot]

make it into rocket fuel

[shy mulch]

nice 🙂 well done

[rustic otter]

i dont have rocket fuel just yet

also i need nitric acid/blenders for that anyways

[exotic pilot]

ok

[rustic otter]

i plan in the future however cause i will have a lot of space

blue crate has a lot of ariel space that makes it look nice anyways'

is that ur first playthru?

[exotic pilot]

yeah

but with a friend

110h so far

[rustic otter]

that explains the spaghetti

[exotic pilot]

this area is mainly by me

[rustic otter]

let me send a screenshot rq

[exotic pilot]

eww

too neat

[rustic otter]

on the middle right is oil left is carrying in sulfur/coal for compacted, on the top is where its making the turbo

want to see my first playthru? this is my second

[exotic pilot]

sure

not enough spaghetti

[rustic otter]

i managed to keep a stable 3 nuclear power plant stable in that btw

[exotic pilot]

huh

[rustic otter]

making an extra 0.1 a minute

and i somehow beat the game in that small area, only getting plastic/rubber/fabric from blue crater and making a nuclear pasta and a supercomputer factory i believe near the top

[exotic pilot]

whats the blue crater

oh thats where i am

[rustic otter]

where i currently am, its got oil, coal, sulfur, an iron and caterium node close, as well as a nitrogen thing as well

and hooking my grid slowly up to this for compacted coal to manifold out is making me realize how much power this truly needs

speaking of which i would like to see ur power grid

[exotic pilot]

how much power you making

[rustic otter]

4916 mw

[exotic pilot]

is it that thing?

[rustic otter]

yeah

i dont like that the producing is bouncing around

[exotic pilot]

probably the geothermal guys

[rustic otter]

the geothermal is a more smooth thing

[exotic pilot]

all at different times tho

i think

[rustic otter]

how many u got hooked up?

[exotic pilot]

i dont like how the consumption is bouncingf around

[exotic pilot]

like over 10 probably

[rustic otter]

oh ok, and my power consumption?

[exotic pilot]

its too smooth

[rustic otter]

imma have to activate batteries for this thing

[exotic pilot]

wdym

[rustic otter]

well, once this whole thing gets going, its going to produce more than i can make, that means my grid will fail

[exotic pilot]

fail??

[rustic otter]

i have a group of 25 batteries that will hopefully last this until gens for this plaint kick on

a fuse blowing?

[exotic pilot]

oh i thought you meant more power than you need

[rustic otter]

making more power than u need is a good thing

[exotic pilot]

ik thats why i was confused

i honestly think fuel is the best power

its really easy

[rustic otter]

really simple and u can get a lot on, also u can base plastic and others like that as a by product so its really simple

nuclear however is so good u just eventually have to do it

[exotic pilot]

eh

i have 1 nuclear plant

isnt waste used for something tho

[rustic otter]

solely for plutonium fuel rods

u can burn the fuel rods but then that will make plutonium waste and thats even more complicated

[exotic pilot]

holy

[rustic otter]

what?

[random sphinx]

mm.. putting a splitter or merger on the head of lift cuts off the floor hole connection where lift was connected?

all of my new blueprints are plagued with floor hole not working (modular stacking factory setup)

[verbal yoke]

wait since when is there a hard drive in the awesome shop?

[lost wagon]

Since you installed a mod

Because there is a mod that literally does that

[verbal yoke]

I'm on vanilla??

I just realised that I had downloaded SMM once before in like update 5 or something like that, so I opened it, I have 0 mods installed other than the actual "Satisfactory Mod Loader"

[true mulch]

added in 1.0, becomes available after unlocking Particle Enrichment

[lavish lance]

Its in vanilla

[verbal yoke]

ah, ok... why??

[lavish lance]

In case you lost a few

[true mulch]

idk I didn't add that feature

there are still more drives than unlocks

in other news, they released the OST on Spotify...?

...without announcement...?

someone just edited the wiki page to add that in

<@&370483737957236737> is there an announcement coming?

https://open.spotify.com/album/2Gg8J5EOqFfrA0BSuoCuAm
https://music.apple.com/us/album/satisfactory-original-game-soundtrack/1777461781

[rustic otter]

some drives are used in straight research, like turbo and rocket fuel

[true mulch]

I said unlocks, not alternate recipes

that counts as unlocks

[lavish lance]

Its also a nice option for those that need a drive quick withouthqving to look for it

[reef basin]

for most cases those are also considered alternate recipes

[rustic otter]

ahh ok

[reef basin]

(since the game doesn't have anything that would classify if a recipe is alternate or not, the distinction is what people make it)

[silk ocean]

Alt: Pure Iron Ingot --> Alt: Steel Pipe
Good plan?!

(I am floating over an ocean) xD

[dense violet]

eh, pure ingots are a lot of work. Iron alloy or base iron is often fine.

[green fiber]

Its good if you think its worth it.
Definitely make sure you know how much work you are creating for yourself though

[dense violet]

I'd plan a location that has more iron over having to use pure

[silk ocean]

Is it a lot of work in screenshots? XD

Seems like you take from the storage and the pond and stick in Refy xD

[daring reef]

#screenshots message

both recipes are amazing i cant decide

[dense violet]

yes?

[silk ocean]

xD

[hard ivy]

Take whichever one you're more likely to make use of sooner

[dense violet]

which will you use next?

[dense violet]

are you moving hte iron to water to do it on top of that? oof

[daring reef]

prob the circuits

[dense violet]

question answered

[silk ocean]

Moving the Iron from the other side of the map XD

[daring reef]

i dont really want to restart the aluminium production

i already made a closed loop and everything is clean and working

and im making more aluminium than i need im litterly sinking it all

but computers

[silk ocean]

But there is a global rail network in operation, so it was only really a case of building a spur and station in this location. The main iron farm/station is already established, so not a big amount of work

[daring reef]

i need to improve that

[reef basin]

flip a coin

[daring reef]

i already decided on the circuits

[silk ocean]

Is there no Pipe equivalent of the Conveyor Lift Floor Hole? or am I just being my usual stupid-self™

[rustic otter]

pipeline floor hole

[silk ocean]

stupid-self™ confirmed

Thanks xD

[hard ivy]

Depending on the amount you're processing, pure iron can be the lowest effort option.
Half the iron usage of smelting
Slightly more iron than alloy, but alloy requires extra copper - so it's actually significantly more ore that needs to be transported
If you put it over water, extractors go right underneath - no transport necessary
Refinery spam is easy with auto-connect blueprints. And so is foundry spam
So if you're making a ton of ingots, transporting the ingredients is what takes the most effort. And in that case, pure iron wins

[violet moat]

hey guys, why is production planner telling me to add 2 production shards to one of my smelters and still run it on 100 percent only, is this a bug or does simply just adding power shards make any difference?

[shy mulch]

what production planner? any screenshots? sounds like a misunderstanding

[violet moat]

check #screenshots

[hard ivy]

If you're using Satisfactory-Calculator's Production Planner, don't

[violet moat]

oh, which one should i use then

[hard ivy]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production if you want something automatic
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3187030/Satisfactory_Modeler/ if you want something manual

[violet moat]

okok ty

[silk ocean]

Interesting, thanks! I think Pure Iron seems like the lowest effort simply because the rail network existed and I can also use the Iron to make Iron Wire. Basically making Electromagnetic Control Rods so the nuclear plant doesn't rely on them being shipped out of central base. The Stators can be made entirely using Iron and water here. There is oil here, so the AI Limiters I can probably just use the Alt: Plastic AI Limiter recipe and leverage the oil to make the plastic, so really everything is in this location and ready to go now. I think I can avoid Copper entirely but the Caty is not far away

(It's not a big operation in the grand scheme of things)

[rustic otter]

my turbofuel is ready to boot

i goota go connect some batteries and let my pipes fill

[silk ocean]

"Everybody save your work, I'm booting the powerplant"

[ivory condor]

"Prepare for unforeseen consequences"

[rustic otter]

"Prepare for total grid failure"

[silk ocean]

Fire Brigade on standby

[rustic otter]

insert power down mp3.file from fnaf 1

1200 mw of max consumption potential

over current production

im not even done hooking things up yet

[hot ermine]

Guys is there a way to organize the blueprints for everyone in the server?

[rustic otter]

Unexpected delay of an approximate 15-45 minutes has occured, please stand by/

[rustic otter]

wdym?

[silk ocean]

Which wire melted xD

[rustic otter]

i forgot to hook up turbo fuel refineries to pipes and i didnt even build the gens yet

i also gotta hook up pumps to power

[hot ermine]

Like i have many blueprints and I made diferents categories, but for my friends they are just empty categories, while mine has everything organized

[silk ocean]

Claims the powerplant is ready to boot seem overrated 😉

[rustic otter]

maybe

[boreal musk]

well its client side and they need to import the bp file themselves and sort it manually

[rustic otter]

ive been awake for about 15-16 hours atm

[boreal musk]

unless theres a mod for it, which you can ask in their discord server

[daring reef]

#screenshots message

[hot ermine]

I'm playing on a dedicated server. every blueprints are on the server

[silk ocean]

Don't worry, I make far bigger mistakes even after sleep.. I recently trained in Iron Ore from the other side of the map when I actually needed Bauxite

[daring reef]

both really good but imma have to go with heavy oil

[rustic otter]

oof

[silk ocean]

xD

"Why isn't the refinery accepting it.. oohh noooo"

[daring reef]

ok does anyone know where the blue crater than everyone makes a fuel power plant in is

[silk ocean]

In the blue crater? xD

[daring reef]

yeah where is that

[rustic otter]

bottom right

[silk ocean]

Down South East ish

Ya bottom right

[daring reef]

can u give me a screenshot maybe

[rustic otter]

one sec

its in screenshots

[daring reef]

ok thanks

i have a remote oil refinery at bottom left connecting power to bottom right shouldnt be too hard

also what do i do with the polymer resin

i really dont need it

[rustic otter]

make a little bit of fabric, rest into a healthy mix of both plastic and rubber

are u planning on making turbo fuel while u are there?

[boreal musk]

are the blueprints made in that session or the imported one?

[exotic pilot]

almost done with phase 4 items!!!! gonna send it when my friend is back online tho

[hot ermine]

Both

[boreal musk]

you should try asking in #dedicated-servers then, folks there has better understanding

[exotic pilot]

lucky

[rustic otter]

FUCKING GRID BLEW

[exotic pilot]

lol

[scenic socket]

Does adding locomotives to very long trains make them faster at pulling up?

[storm talon]

i built a floor on top of my factory that makes iron rods and plates that only makes screws

[boreal musk]

yes

[storm talon]

it's two floors

[boreal musk]

but max speed always cap at 120km/h