satisfactory

[leaden ether]

Yeah "central" is tough unless you built way up in the air.

[twilit escarp]

i just want a cool spot where i can relax and have all materials delivered to me, instead of jumping arround like crazy

[naive palm]

You don't have to store things if you don't want to. Dimensional depot can pretty much keep you stocked up wherever you are.

If you want one purely as a flex or aesthetics, I've seen some amazing warehouses that incorporate natural structures, the space elevator, your hub, etc. Make it look like it belongs.

[dense violet]

if you're wanting to save time grabbing items for building?
it'll take way less time using a hyper tube and hitting a few factories , than spending all the time planning and builidng a central storage

[wicked nacelle]

that's the biggest truth in this channel in the last 24h

[twilit escarp]

but what if i need more than what depot can hold

but i dont want to go to the other side of the world?

[dense violet]

Like, before depots, that kinda make thing semi creative by just having refilling your bag with automated materials, central storages weren't practical. now? less so.
you don't build them for practicality

[wicked nacelle]

"go to the other side of the world" is ... 30 seconds? 30 seconds back? That's a LOT of trips vs the time to build central storage

[twilit escarp]

BUT I AM LAZY :/

[dense violet]

"it'll take way less time using a hyper tube and hitting a few factories , than spending all the time planning and builidng a central storage"

If you care about time spent getting items? you don't build a central depot

not buildign a depot is the lazy option

[twilit escarp]

i wanted to have one place that i can feel relax

🙁

[dense violet]

then pick a pretty place and go for it

[wicked nacelle]

play how you want, but it's not time efficient 🙂

[twilit escarp]

where i also drop the space elevator

[dense violet]

no matte rwhere you pick it won't be practical

[mortal ginkgo]

you can do this.

[twilit escarp]

and all the other comodities

[mortal ginkgo]

you can have concrete wagons with trains where you are going to develop stuff

[dense violet]

fine, the west coast on the cliff.
great view

[naive palm]

Okay. So it sounds like you want one for aesthetic purposes. There's nothing wrong with that! The best advice we can give to that end is.. pick somewhere that you can relax. Somewhere chill you can kick back and watch the belts roll by. There's some caves, grottos, and cliffs that may be a suitable hub/storage area to chill and plan out your next factories.

[mortal ginkgo]

I heard swamps is pretty peaceful at night

[twilit escarp]

sure, but aesthetics inst my best suit

[dense violet]

then it really doesn't matter where you pick. Just pick a place you like

[naive palm]

Gotta keep at it. The more buildings you build the better they will look. Don't aim to make your first hub and storage area perfect, just build it. You will naturally learn things along the way.

[twilit escarp]

but picking the spot is also an important location right?

[dense violet]

only if you have a solid idea of what you want to do

if you don't, location won't matter

[naive palm]

Maybe not. I'd try building a storage area right where you are. You will naturally get an idea of what you like, what you don't, and it will sharpen your vision of what a chill hub/storage area should be.

Then with some practice under your belt, you can go out and make that dream a reality.

[twilit escarp]

in the future it will also hold the portal hub, and maybe a hypertube for each of major region

[shy mulch]

Planning is for the weak 😄 I just build stuff, if it doesn't work, I make it bigger until it does

[twilit escarp]

the issue is: #design-and-architecture message its getting a bit chaotic and i want to move out to have all the space available to redo this

[naive palm]

This is dey way. Learn by doing.

[dense violet]

you can do that anywhere 🙂
either come up with a basic concept, like a cliff fortress, or a hidden cave.

or just pick at random

[twilit escarp]

wait, i just noticed, i sent in the wrong channell...

oops

[wicked nacelle]

maybe look at satisfactory design videos for inspiration

[livid kernel]

I try not to mess with the beans, but I swear those things are like, "Oh, you're trying to build a factory here? This will be my new home and I will always be right where you want to place something"

[naive palm]

I only started going crazy on beams when I recently tried learning how to create arbitrary size and angle curves. It's involved, but those puppies turn out soooo good.

[livid kernel]

I'm talking about the creature lol

[wicked nacelle]

don't remember who it was asking about hand rails but there's a mod called "curve builder" that seems like maybe it does what that person wanted

[livid kernel]

@woeful gate

[livid kernel]

found a cave mercer sphere where you have to swim up a waterfall earlier, It would be cool af to build something in there, but the cave was too small for anything. I actually had that thought when I grabbed the sphere lol

[dense violet]

yeah sadly almost all cave thigns are far too small for even basic manufacturing

[dry salmon]

is it normal that conveyor wall holes are not see-through but just contain a black void like GTA Vice City Cop spawners?

[livid kernel]

yes

[dry salmon]

a bit sad innit

[livid kernel]

there's conveyor walls you can buy in the shop too that are actually see through

[dry salmon]

what

oh the walls

[livid kernel]

if you're wanting a window that size (guessing that's the point)

yeah, but you can't move the holes

[dry salmon]

yeah but i can't place the holes arbitrarily with those. but tbf for my current use they might suffice

just realized that there's no reason to keep coupons in a box anymore if i can just put them in the cloud

why is there an auto react for coupons

[sturdy pivot]

can someone tell me what the recycled rubber/plastic build looks like? trying to find the image on the subreddit but can't find

[steady glade]

you want the build image, the scim map overview or the graph?

[dense violet]

here https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=xel1AtGfsriARIYKeZ4I

[sturdy pivot]

ty

[manic monolith]

does anyone know why my pipes of crude oil are getting any flowrate even with pumps

everything has power and it was working before and all of a sudden it just ether ran out or ther is some bug

[dense violet]

fluids are bidirectional and prefer to go downwards when there's the option

so there's often initial confusion on how to do their layouts

that being said there occasionally exists buggy connections of belts/pipes when you put junctions/splitters directly on them (or pumps)

[manic monolith]

so what should i do

[dense violet]

so its likely a layout issue

post some overhead images of your set up in #math-and-meta or in a post in #1038092680493801533

it's nearly impossible to diagnose pipes w/o images, and often very simple to, with

[white dawn]

Recent update on the campaign indicates that you'll still be able to do post-campaign pledges for awhile, btw, though it doesn't mention how long that'll be available. See the "Post Campaign" section near the bottom of kickstarter.com/projects/heroicreplicas/satisfactory-collectors-big-box-and-factory-cart/posts/4447954 (server URL filter eats that link if I try to include the actual link)

[manic monolith]

i sent it there

[white dawn]

@dense bone (re: #screenshots message ) - I'm not sure if you're supposed to, but you definitely can get it that early. I think you don't get the other half of that chain unlocked until rather later, though, so it's a bit silly

[wanton apex]

I feel like I'm opening up a major can of worms I'm not ready for in trying to play with aluminum

[dense bone]

yeah i dont even have nitric accid to produce it yet

[white dawn]

Yeah, it's weird, for sure

[dense bone]

ah nvm i can unlock it at this phase

[dry salmon]

is there a way to apply a customization to all connected foundations? It's a bit tedious to apply it to every foundation of the whole platform.

[white dawn]

Not in the vanilla game, though maybe there's a mod out there which'd do it

Keep in mind that in the future you can set a customization as the default before building, so that any new thing you put down has that customization

(though that obviously doesn't help if you change your mind later)

[dry salmon]

yeah i changed my mind later. still thanks

[white dawn]

Maybe SCIM would let you change stuff en masse

[dry salmon]

what is scim

[livid kernel]

you can filter with the customizer, so you can at least filter the foundations, hold the mouse and run around. But that's really the only option I know of

[white dawn]

Satisfactory Calculator Interactive Map (https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/interactive-map)

[dry salmon]

right, i wasn't aware of the abbreviation

[white dawn]

Oh seriously? I thought that only worked for dismantling. Hah, I'm amused that I've gone this long without noticing

[livid kernel]

lol

[dry salmon]

this might actually be helpful, thanks

[versed plinth]

uh why does the alien power augmenter have an input

[livid kernel]

yeah, at least you won't have to accurate af to avoid all machines and logistics

[wicked nacelle]

extra 20% more powa

[livid kernel]

you can buff them with https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Alien_Power_Matrix

[wicked nacelle]

I prefer to call them scooby snacks 🙂

[dense bone]

what is the input of the alien power augmenter for

[dense violet]

duping power mostly

[dense violet]

!wikisearch alien_power_augmenter

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=alien_power_augmenter

[dense bone]

i mean the conveyer belt entry it has

what goes in there

[dense violet]

look at the page.

it'll tell you

[livid kernel]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Alien_Power_Matrix

[naive surge]

I just lost two mercer spheres when dismantling dimensional depots cause my inventory was full.

no dismantle cratge dropped is this a known bug?

[cosmic laurel]

wheres a good spot for first aluminum, im not seeing an rea that has bauxite/coal/quartz near by

[steady glade]

since 1.1 crates are consolidated if possible

[dense violet]

it centralises to 1 crate somewhere nearby

[steady glade]

unless you yourself disabled dismantle crate, one of them a bit far has a bunch of stuff

[dense bone]

it doesnt

[livid kernel]

IIRC it's if there's one within 100 meters?

[versed plinth]

hey guys? is rocket fuel classified as a gas in this game?

[naive surge]

there was like 1k meters away is that considered close?

[dense violet]

you can read what it does in the little preview I linked to you xD

[livid kernel]

It does, and I sent a link to what goes into it

[dense bone]

i read thru it

[dense violet]

right above the image

'if you provide it with ...'

[livid kernel]

it's in the first sentence I think lol

[versed plinth]

because its going up 60 meters without a pump...

[dense bone]

ah right

ty

[livid kernel]

Yes it is

[versed plinth]

good to know, i was very confused when it was magically going upwards...

[wild kindle]

What is it called when you put a splitter on every input and have one conveyor go through them while waiting for them to back up to go to the next one and so on

[naive surge]

manifold

[versed plinth]

good design 😎

[wild kindle]

Is it worth doing? I previously just did basically a triangle formation of splitters to get the ratios done

[livid kernel]

yes

[naive surge]

i only use manifold tbh

on some rare occasions I dont

[wild kindle]

Alr thanks

[livid kernel]

so much cleaner. As long as you are supplying the right amount, it will be perfect once you get it fully started up

[dense violet]

load balancing gets extremely complicated and you have to end up designing your whole factory aroudn it

[livid kernel]

you can speed it up by hand supplying the inputs to the first machines the belt hits

[naive surge]

only downside is it takes some time before youjr factory gets to full efficiency

[steady glade]

thats called load balancing, you get exact ratios that way but it takes more space and complexity

[naive surge]

but not that long

[wild kindle]

I thought its less complex

[steady glade]

basically load balacing is good only if you have extremely few items or stupidly many to get through

[steady glade]

its not that complex, but a manifold is easier than load balancing

[naive surge]

and even if you need more items than you can support with one conveyer you can just merge one along the way

[wild kindle]

Oh thought you were talking about manifolds

[steady glade]

my bad for the confusion then, i was talking about your triangle formation

[wild kindle]

Yeah load balancing is a pain it feels impossible to remember a 3 to 5 ratio

[livid kernel]

the wiki has pictures of the common layouts.I think 3:5 is on there

I almost strictly use manifolds, but if you ever want to balance again, I'd check that page

[wild kindle]

Ight thanks

[brisk stream]

for smart splitter storage do i set the center output to any?

[brisk stream]

bro is crushing some castles rn

[livid kernel]

like on a sushi belt?

[brisk stream]

#screenshots

[livid kernel]

only plastic on the belt?

[dense violet]

whicever direction you want the flow to keep going

often centre but depending on your design it doesn't have to be

[livid kernel]

If you want to feed the machines first, then the storage 2nd, set the one going to storage to overflow

[dense violet]

yes overflow, missed a word before

[brisk stream]

👍

[livid kernel]

if it's a sushi belt going to a bunch of different boxes, you set the center to overflow and the specific items off the side into the box for it

[gritty sleet]

Anyone else seen this bug where unpowered ceiling lights make light?

[versed plinth]

man

i am in love with my pipework on this project

#screenshots message I love it

also: how important is it that I cover it all up?

I have some ideas on what to do I'm just curious

[livid kernel]

looks clean af

[versed plinth]

ty!

[livid kernel]

you don't have to cover anything, stricty a personal choice

[versed plinth]

ah ok. i thought it improved performance or something?

[livid kernel]

if your gpu isn't great and you have a major factory, you might see some stuttering, but most lag in this game comes from CPU, and that's everything in the world being calculated, covered or not

[versed plinth]

ok good to know

new question: are there any mods that make finding collectibles easier?

[livid kernel]

I don't use mods, but you can use the map on satisfactory-calculator.com

[dense violet]

is it running smoothly?

[dense violet]

just use SCIM

[versed plinth]

reasonably. performance wise or?

it stutters whenever i place big blueprints so theres that

[dense violet]

I mean the fluid

vertical split manifolds tend to be unrully

[real raptor]

I just dismantled an entire floor with 25 fuel generators and the materials weren't returned to my inventory 🥲

realized too late and can't load an autosave back far enough lol

[dense violet]

find the crate that spawned

[steady glade]

some crate exists elesewhere

[real raptor]

there's no crate either

[dense violet]

crates combine, it'll be somewhere

[real raptor]

i thought i was going crazy and even put my save into satisfactory calc lol

[versed plinth]

for the most part. some weird bugs but nothing too serious

[real raptor]

waddafuq there was a crate 😮 like a bajillion miles away

omg ty guys

[gritty sleet]

Btw the "combined crates" option can be turned off if you want a bunch of less-filled ones

[dense violet]

well, you can generally do whatever you want with pipes and if you're happy with 90 95% output that's fine. but its tough getting it to run smoothly with branches like that

[dense violet]

that'll probably murder people who cronically cannot empty their packs

omg.. you have no idea how many people just would continuously bitch about crates going everywhere whe nthey co0uld, in 2 seconds, just empty their inventory into a container.

peak lazy bitching. Reminded me of customers in basically any retail job.

[gritty sleet]

I assume that's why they made combining crates the default when they added that feature

[dense violet]

probably. It was like someone complaining about being stabbed in the face, while the knife was in their own hand continuously stabbing themselves

[twilit escarp]

I havent done a drone setup yet, but how do you deal with drone fuel? do you have a drone fueling other drones? do you just make a fuel station nearby?

[full perch]

anyone can share train railway system on their map? i want see how it typically look like

[astral knot]

I have two stations at my main base, Serpentsnest and Serpentshead. With the new aluminum and sulfur stuff i might need a third or even fourth one once i get to nuclear stuff. Any name suggestions? Something that still follows the Serpents- naming thing

[twilit escarp]

Serpentegg

Serpentfang

[glacial geyser]

does anyone know how to make a hypertube accelerator using the new hypertuve things? i saw some people where doing it on the experimental but cant find a video on how to do it now

[dense violet]

drone the fuel to them 🙂

[twilit escarp]

so you have to place down 2 drone stations everywhere? one for fuel and the other for the actual resource?

[dense violet]

if they are all scattered? maybe.

one of the good ways to manage it is by having a common location that multiple drones use as a drop off or pick up point. That way you only need to feed that much

[sturdy pivot]

i used this video, was easier than attempting to follow what's on the wiki
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMIfjfCCgb0

[dense violet]

but at worst, even if you have 2 drone ports in a lot of spots, the drones will stop flying when they can't deliver any more fuel, so they won't waste much

[glacial geyser]

thanks ill try it

[dense violet]

and you only need to fuel 1 end of their path

[twilit escarp]

yeah, ik that,

also curious, will they start flying if they dont have enough fuel?

for the full path

[dense violet]

I don't believe they will

[twilit escarp]

ik trucks stop midway

(at least used to)

[dense violet]

and afaik even the lowest tier fuel can fuel the furthest path you can make

with enough in their fuel slot

[twilit escarp]

2 way trip?

[dense violet]

yup

[twilit escarp]

nice

[dense violet]

afaik. I could be wrong

[twilit escarp]

rn i only have some fuel

and only a bit being made

[dense violet]

but most people don't use base fuel for drones. Maybe make some turbo just to be sure

that definitely gets you anywhere. But testing with basic fuel could be useful science 🙂

[twilit escarp]

but once i unlock more oil alts i will do a mega fuel factory

also, how you deal with fuel? you make all of it in same spot? and just split the fuel between power and stored?

or you have dedicated power fuel and dedicated fuel for usage?

[dense violet]

I would make a section of your fuel power station that is dedicated purely to packaged fuel

[dense violet]

my advice in general - completely seperate power production, from all other production

you don't want a hiccup wrecking things

[twilit escarp]

yeah HAHA

[dense violet]

it's less important now if you use priority power switches, but that can get messy depending how you're doing things

[steady glade]

dont split fuel, either you burn it, or you make it into other stuff

[dense violet]

imo it's jsut easier keeping the grids split

[twilit escarp]

Also, in my power fuel plant, do i need one drone station for every location i want to deliever? or i can place multiple drones in the same platform going to diferent spots?

[full perch]

do u guys build train pathway first or factory first?

[dense violet]

1 drone per. Drones only go A to B

[steady glade]

and you could probably find liquid biofuel more useful

[twilit escarp]

Sadge, so the drone station will be as big as drones areas i want?

[dense violet]

generally factory. But if you at least know where your factories are going to be you can do the rails first

[dense violet]

for drones? you want that fully automated. And I don't think drones can use it

[steady glade]

depends what i want, but often i scout an area, start the flooring, get tracks through and end up hating both

[white dawn]

I usually do trains first, partially because otherwise I find I often forget to make room for the station infrastructure, and also because I like having my input buffers ready to go as soon as I want to turn machines on

[steady glade]

wait its for drones, not a first powerplant?

[full perch]

and trains is mostly use for ores, end products or?

[dense violet]

the ywere talking about managing both a fuel station and making fuel for drones 🙂

[white dawn]

(And also because that way if I do want to leave the build site for a bit and go elsewhere, I've got passenger rail all ready to go)

[dense violet]

whatever you want really 🙂
they do get used for large bulk more often though

[dense violet]

there's no hard rule of what type of vehicle moves what type of material.

[white dawn]

glances nervously at his train ferrying a staggering 2/min HMF

[dense violet]

wait until full right?

[steady glade]

depends, you can send ores to a centralized refinery, but you probably wanna send smelted stuff to the factory to save space

[white dawn]

Heh, no, I like a busy rail system; want to see stuff zipping around as much as possible

[full perch]

okay anyone know a good video guide for train on yt etc

[steady glade]

i see, i didnt read the whole context

[dense violet]

honestly, the best advice at this point - treat these tiers as a tutorial for you to figure out how you like to do things. It's a real sand box once you've got everything unlocked

[elder valley]

How many train highways do you have

[steady glade]

there are multiple subjects to get into, you should start searching on yt

[white dawn]

I generally build my train network organically; whenever I need a new train route I just make sure it connects to the existing stuff somehow

I don't recall how many trains I ended up with on my 1.0 save

But my logistics are also pretty well split up between vehicles, trains, and drones, so I've got a lot that doesn't end up on the rails

I sometimes have to remind myself to hook up rails to factories which are only gonna use drones, just so I've got the passenger rail option

[stray loom]

Personal train is cool. I like to make mine the caterium paint finish

Because gold

[versed plinth]

does creature hostility affect achievements

im getting very annoyed by the aggressive creatures

[stray loom]

Nope. Only anything in advanced game settings.

[steady glade]

civilize the area

[sacred raft]

Hello

[trim vine]

Bring managed democracy to the world

Wait, wrong discord

[sacred raft]

Was planning to start a game with 2 other friends what should we do

[trim vine]

someone host and fire the game up

[sacred raft]

We have never played this shoudl we go full blind or is wiki required, what abt stuff like the area

[versed plinth]

@wind trout i really want to see your blue crater base

[sacred raft]

Do we choose beginner or go hard? Whats the difference?

Is there more combat in the advanced areas?

[trim vine]

Go in fresh, do things, figure things out

As you come across things and systems you dont understand after attempting it, then come here and ask questions

[sacred raft]

What difficulty

[trim vine]

just starting zone, doesnt matter, you will be in the same world regardless

[sacred raft]

Ok

[dense violet]

full blind and look up stuff as needed
research the tech in the MAM

but treat it as a long tutorial.

[trim vine]

There isnt a difficulty, its just the starting zone within the same world

[versed plinth]

the primary difference is 2 things.
1: the harder areas have generally more spread out resources.
2: The harder areas have slightly harder enemies. Overall doesn't matter much

[dense violet]

to a great sandbox game

[sacred raft]

Does progression feel meaningful

Or is it just kinda grindy grindy for the same stuff over and over

[versed plinth]

it feels very meaningful

[sacred raft]

Ok

[versed plinth]

every "phase" unlocks entirely new challenges and goals.

[dense violet]

each tier unlocks new things to learn. It's a very well scafolded game to learn

[dense violet]

also, the first time you try anything new expect it to be bad. Just learn from it 🙂

[sacred raft]

Is it a game that sucks early on and gets better later or is it still a good start experience? I dont wannak now too much just general feel of game

How much of a wall is rhere to get into the game

[versed plinth]

boi

[sacred raft]

Bro

[versed plinth]

just play the game already. learn for yourself

[dense violet]

well, imo, most of the game is a sandbox when you've unlocked everything.

and you can decide to build whatever you like

and its only little walls

[sacred raft]

My firends quit allot of games i wanna know bc they might refund or not

Ight

[trim vine]

its a game that grows in complexity

[sacred raft]

Ok

[dense violet]

do you like problemsolving games?
designing your own systems and creating your own challenges?
like automation and exploring?

then you'll love this game

if you don't like these things? maybe it's not for you

[white dawn]

There's honestly not a lot of difference really, but pick one of the two "beginner" areas. And yeah, just go in blind

[sacred raft]

These r fun i finished NMS

[white dawn]

A lot of the fun of the first playthrough is figuring things out on your own

[sacred raft]

They like MC

[white dawn]

You can ruin your own fun by over-spoiling yourself on things on Discord and Youtube

(Well, maybe not ruin, but y'know.)

[sacred raft]

I have seeb literally nothing of this game and they found out abt it yesterday when i told them lol

[dense violet]

no mans sky? VERY different from NMS.

this is a building sandbox, it has exploration but it's mostly a building and problemsolving

[sacred raft]

Mmmmmm ok

[dense violet]

more like minecraft than NMS

except with automation

[sacred raft]

Ok then it should be finevthey like MC

[velvet idol]

like Minecraft but you always play the same seed

[dense violet]

MC is more ... arty? while you can definitely design pretty things in the game, a lot of it is problem solving and a bit of math

[dense violet]

kinda xD but you can start different projects

[last tartan]

i love hoarding these things

i have like 40

[limpid cairn]

How far are you into the game ?

[last tartan]

hmm, just barely got into using refineries

not too far past phase 2

[limpid cairn]

you should have steel unlocked right ?

[last tartan]

oh yeah for sure

[limpid cairn]

Try to find Sam

[last tartan]

use it in almost everything

[limpid cairn]

Some purple ore

[last tartan]

oh yeah, i have dementional depots already

[limpid cairn]

oh

[last tartan]

i only have one set up, i use it for concrete

[limpid cairn]

Well then upgrade your depot 😂

[last tartan]

yes, i have been crafting tons of sam fluctuators

[vague sparrow]

Do they forget what items you put in there? 😛

[last tartan]

what do you mean?

[vast ivy]

damn, i must not be exploring enough, i got like 6 after just reseaching depot

[vague sparrow]

demential depots, as in dementia

[last tartan]

yeah, ive been doing TONS of exploring lately (im bored) and find lots of em

[vague sparrow]

in stead of dimensional depots

[last tartan]

i was trying to figure out how to spell that 🤣

[vague sparrow]

😄

[vast ivy]

you use the online map to find em?

[last tartan]

nahh, just run around. I just got a jetpack too so it makes life so much nicer

ive been across the entire west coast

[vague sparrow]

middle of the map has like 10-15 close together

[vast ivy]

nice, i just got jetpack too and started making fuel. so great

[vague sparrow]

I think you need 98 to max out upgrades for the depots

early upgrades I suggest inventory upload and 2x speed 1x stack

[vast ivy]

oh that's right, i did upgrade upload speed first thing but that's about it

[vague sparrow]

inventory upload lets you store stuff while on the go exploring, very handy

upload speed is good to begin with, since it takes forever at the start

[vast ivy]

so slow

[vague sparrow]

Yeah, I usually do 2 speed upgrades before i upgrade the stack

then just go crazy exploring to get all but the final upgrades

because 43 is quite a few to gather, takes a few hours probably

And I think early midgame you don't need massive stacks of items for building, unless you're going crazy with a massive factory

then again you cn still grab stuff manually to keep up

[stray loom]

Gotta love it when your lizard doggo gives you turbo motors to sink while you're in phase 2

Coupon printer goes brrrrr

[stuck oak]

man fluid manifolds are scary

esp when your power grid is relying on it

cause you cant inject items like in a regular one

but it seems like only filling the first row of gens is just barely enough to keep the rest of the turbofuel plant going while it spins up

[sacred raft]

If u had to nake a comparison to mc

Would tekkit becthe most accurate description of this game

[stuck oak]

maybe?

i mean create is the easiest one because conveyors

[sacred raft]

No clue what that is man

Im old school

[stuck oak]

its a pretty immersive tech mod

[dense violet]

from memorty i'ts kinda a factory belt fed thing? I suppose but only in the sense of automation

production and mining in Satisfactory is constant and infinite

[sacred raft]

Wait

Sorry if this is a shit comparison but

Is gameplay loop similarcto like tycoons in roblox

Or off thd mark by miles? Ive never played this type of game ever

[dense violet]

probably not? the only 'loop' is you deciding to create things. At least afte ryou unlock all the phases

[sacred raft]

So tekkit was the closest i could think of

I c

[dense violet]

the 'loop' while you unlock stuff is 'hey you've unlocked these new parts, you probalby need to automate them to unlock the next parts' ect

[stuck oak]

Satisfactory is a math game with good graphics

[dense violet]

extremely basic math. Math you can palm off to good planners

[finite mirage]

is 240 modular frames per hour good for tier 4? or am i lagging behind?

[steady glade]

issa lot

[stuck oak]

I haven’t had to do least common multiples in 20 years lol

[dense violet]

I don't think you even need that. mostly just addition multiplication and division

[stuck oak]

I mean it can help for figuring out how many machines you need if you wanna fully utilize an input

[vast ivy]

rates, its just rates

[dense violet]

that's really just division.

you have 500 ore pm, recipe needs 50 ore pm, you need 10 machines

[stuck oak]

I mean yeah that’s an easy one

[dense violet]

if you have 457 pm and need 22.5 pm that's still just division 😛

457/22.5

calculators or planners are your friends

[finite mirage]

per hour tho

[steady glade]

woops my bad, you probably want a lot more than that

[finite mirage]

what's a good standard?

[steady glade]

that depends how fast you want to make parts

a bit under 60/m might get you 20 parts per minute

[dense violet]

yeah just make stuff 🙂
one of the best things about the game is there's alternative recipes to items, so there's no one way to get to a goal even if everyone had the same goal

for example, you could build a world spanning factory making everything, and not use steel

or use 15,000 crystal pm, or 100.

Pretty sure you could cut Coal out entirely, use little or lots of caterium.

[finite mirage]

how do u guys do the math? for the production lines?

how do u visualise it? or do u just use a pen and paper

[dense violet]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production

and break it down further with a spread sheet

[steady glade]

i use the satisfactory modeler

[dense violet]

it has a bit of a learning curve but has a great user interface.

[finite mirage]

goddamn, this is much deeper than i thought

anyway thanks guys

[dense violet]

it's as complex as you make it 🙂

one of the great thigns about it.

for example - trains. Trains can be very simple. Or very complex if you want ot do fancy things

Fluids? best to keep them simple unless you really want to dive into them

both things take extra know how if you want to get fancy

[finite mirage]

u can dive into fluids?

[dense violet]

metaphorically.

but also there are lakes you can fall into

[finite mirage]

oh

[steady glade]

you can also fly in the sea

[woeful gate]

how many somersloops even are there in the game?

[oblique aspen]

106

[woeful gate]

lol im surprised someone knew

That was fast I guess im not the first person to ask

I want MORE

Every machine in my base needs one...

[winged walrus]

Can't you make them lol

In endgame

[woeful gate]

Not that I have seen.

But I'm not in endgame yet so- mayhaps

[dense violet]

just make more stuff? you can't physically use all the resources on the map anyway

[woeful gate]

ya you can

[dense violet]

your computer will catch fire before that happens

[woeful gate]

I log off every hour or so to let it cool down before it explodes.

[dense violet]

even before they increased the total resources per min you could grab in 1.0, your computer would catch fire

[woeful gate]

But I assure you it is on my todo list!

Now that blueprints can connect, conveyor belt highways aren't even that tedious to build anyway!

I do hope they continue to optimize the game though...

[finite mirage]

should i direct all my steel ingot output to pipes and beams? or would i need it for smthn else later?

[dense violet]

some alt recipes use them for other things 🙂

just build what you need now.

[woeful gate]

BEAUTIFUL question! I wish I was smart enough to ask that when I was new!!!!

Mostly just beams and pipes. You're gonna need a lot of beams and pipes. If you've got leftover steel ingots, you don't have enough beams and pipes

https://tenor.com/view/i-know-better-now-professor-membrane-enter-the-florpus-invader-zim-zim-gif-16452825

[finite mirage]

One coal and one iron, both pure nodes, funneled into 3 foundry,
ALL THAT into just beams and pipes?

[woeful gate]

o-o Uh oh.

[dense violet]

is there any other recipe that needs it right now?

[finite mirage]

I don't think so

[dense violet]

then do that 🙂 the game forces you to expand my dude

[finite mirage]

That's why I asked if there are recipes later

[finite mirage]

Oh alright thanks

[dense violet]

"some alt recipes use them for other things " but those are alt recipes.

[woeful gate]

Yeah you'll be fine with beams and pipes my dood!

[dense violet]

you can, if you want, make Iron Plates out of Steel Ingots.

or Iron Rods out of steel too

but you never need to

[woeful gate]

Oh oh! and liquid containers-

But again, alt recipe...

[dense violet]

imo you'll spend way more time trying to future proof for no benefit. Just build as you go while you learn things

[woeful gate]

Or suffer as I have suffered and restart your entire factory if you run into a requirement you did not plan for-!

Oh torturous agony... How I love you-

[placid stirrup]

The fallacy with that statement is assuming everyone only produces everything in one location

[woeful gate]

I did not say everyone- I said me

[dense violet]

there's a reason why they are blocked.

How likely is building a bunch of stuff now will work with goals and recipes you don't even know yet?
Build it when you need it and you never waste your time

[woeful gate]

I do that! I leave gaps in my factory for new resources I haven't unlocked yet to be funneled from the start of the mega structure to the end!

[placid stirrup]

And you wouldn't need to suffer either with a different approach 😉

My GPU could never

[woeful gate]

Yes but my glorious gargantuan super structure that reaches into the stars builds thousands upon thousands of motors per minute!

And that is so beautiful-

[placid stirrup]

Beautiful 30SPF

[winged walrus]

wow turbofuel is much better than just fuel for the generators

[woeful gate]

#screenshots

Once I unlock aluminum, my gigantobase will be the tallest structure in the world!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[woeful gate]

It's also great in the jetpack if you want to catapult yourself with conveyor belts!

[placid stirrup]

Need the shot from out in the distance to see the scale of it

[winged walrus]

that's why i just automated it

[placid stirrup]

I prefer it to LBF, the z acceleration is too good

[woeful gate]

#screenshots

It's about half way done. I want it to be in the shape of an hour glass.

[placid stirrup]

Not bad, not bad. Assuming you're giving it a train hub?

Those always take a lot more space than you think they will

[woeful gate]

Yes that coil you see on the outside of the base every few layers is a train track that wraps around the base on its way to the top...

As much as I love future proofing my base... Some things cant be brought into the base until you reach a certain point... RADIATION YOU SLY DOG

[placid stirrup]

I built my storage depot in almost the exact same spot, and Turbo Town in what I believe is the exact same spot haha

[woeful gate]

The base is wide enough to fit 25 train stations. The first train track is in the basement sector.

[placid stirrup]

If you're not at aluminum yet I would worry at all about uranium

[dense violet]

effectively, when you're making turob fuel, you're just turning sulfur and coal into more oil. Since you can always make more diluted fuel.

[placid stirrup]

I've been a fan of doing vertical shafts (basically 90° logistics layers) in tall builds like that

[dense violet]

which is fine if you like moving stuff? or the logistics? but it is just simpler making another fuel power station somewhere

[woeful gate]

Oh yeah verticality is a god send... Combining parts has never been so easy!!!

[placid stirrup]

Well, idk about that, independency makes it pretty easy 😝

[woeful gate]

https://tenor.com/view/500-cigarettes-five-hundred-cigarettes-gif-6779891482871762392

500 foundrys #screenshots

[placid stirrup]

I was about to ask why that gif (glad I didn't need to open it, my man Bortus is seared into my brain)

[woeful gate]

lol I wish they let us post gifs- Hopefully the joke still landed.

[placid stirrup]

I'll never turn down an Orville reference

[winged walrus]

why jetpack doesn't give me caniser back

[woeful gate]

IKR WHAT THE HAY HAY

[placid stirrup]

There's a small catalytic converter inside the jetpack that takes care of it for you

[winged walrus]

i have 2 op canister recipes that don't even need oil

[woeful gate]

Wait so can you make somersloops in endgame or nah?

Cause I will absolutely make my factory full somersloop READY

[winged walrus]

research mam

there's a cool thing after the augmenter

but it requires some complicated parts

[woeful gate]

singularity cell. I see it but have NO idea what it does.

[winged walrus]

you can see what it does in mam

[woeful gate]

says it improves the augmenter. It doesn't say that you can use it as a somersloop tho

[boreal musk]

its a limited resources

[woeful gate]

That is what I was afraid of!

Ah phooey-

[vague sparrow]

@wicked nacelle I'm designing some extra stuff onto your 4x4 generator BP to hopefully make it fancier, I' ll send a pic once it's done 😛

[winged walrus]

why do power poles mk3 exist

[woeful gate]

7 really is more than enough.

[winged walrus]

yeah

you can place another mk2 to get 14

just for a one cable

turbo ammo requires alumi 😭

[versed plinth]

Mmkay

So, I finished my fuel power plant. What now?

[winged walrus]

idk

[versed plinth]

Should I just pick one of the main 3 (FMF, turbo motors, cooling systems)?

I have the power to do literally anything I want so like

[winged walrus]

automate everything

[versed plinth]

I'm asking for a starting point so that's not helpful

[dense violet]

pick a milestone to unlock

and then gooooo

or unlock more MAM stuff

[versed plinth]

I suppose

[dense violet]

or explore and get hard drives 😄

[versed plinth]

I have plenty of those

[woeful gate]

Make an interlocking maze of 50 trains that are all driving around at top speed right in front of or behind each other but they never collide

[versed plinth]

Ig I could just start working on the stuff for mk 3 minera

[versed plinth]

WONDEROUS

[woeful gate]

a horrifiying anxiety inducing monstrosity of near misses and wasted power

[winged walrus]

turbo fuel in jetpack is amazing

[woeful gate]

OR- build 500 million power storage batteries. Fill them up to the brim, then destroy your entire power plant and live off of the energy stored in the batteries

[winged walrus]

it's so powerful so jetpack eats the canisters

[woeful gate]

I like to imagine our character throws the canister downward for a lil extra lift-

[vague sparrow]

Wait till you discover ionized fuel

😄

[winged walrus]

i think i need aluminium or the final phase to get it

same with rocket fuel

[woeful gate]

YOU CAN SOMERSLOOP PROTEINS AND DNA CAPSULES?!

For every protein you get, you can get 3 DNA capsules?! pog!

[sterile blade]

If you eat a Sloop, it'll double how many Sloops you get from gathering one

[winged walrus]

yup

[vague sparrow]

Yeah aluminium for empty fluid canisters

[winged walrus]

erm

how do i use cluster nobelisk instead of normal ones

[vague sparrow]

hold R whith the detonator in hand

[sterile blade]

While using a weapon, you can hold R to change the ammo used

[winged walrus]

geo generator makes so cool sounds

[woeful gate]

Is that all geysers are used for?

Do I need to plan on harvesting it for later or can I ignore it?

[sterile blade]

Yes
The only "plan" you can do if you haven't unlocked the required tech is just to mark them on the map ^^

[woeful gate]

incorrect UwU

[boreal musk]

i wouldve use them more often if the power production doesnt fluctuates

[winged walrus]

use batteries for gaysers

[vague sparrow]

Still the total power from geo on the map is like 7GW only

[exotic oak]

what does it mean when the Node icons on my map are yellow?

[vague sparrow]

geysers are alright for powering a radar or something far away

maybe a drone port or two

Hyperloop cannon perhaps, for some extra mobility

[sterile blade]

With power storages, they can power anything.
Like my 400-machines nuclear processing plant, for one full hour (enough for it to become self-sustaining)

[sterile blade]

Are you using Radar Towers or just the Resource Scanner?

[winged walrus]

you can get even more from one normal crude oil source haha

geysers are used only for a cool sound

[vague sparrow]

The sound and animation are top tier yeah ngl

in my first save I made a terrarium surrounding one, with spotlights on it for show xD

[winged walrus]

refinery sound is on the second place

it's very cool too

[exotic oak]

radar

[sterile blade]

Tbh, my favouritw use for them is powering vehicles, sinks and particle accelerator, so that the power draw on my main grid corresponds perfectly to my machines' efficiency (ie: power draw flat = max efficiency)

[winged walrus]

radar towers also show ores on map

[sterile blade]

Yes, they were asking what does it mean when the ore symbols displayed are yellow (I can't recall 😅)

[exotic oak]

yea

[sterile blade]

If you hover the mouse on them, do you get some useful info about that?

[exotic oak]

just the purity

[sterile blade]

Maybe the color just shows wether you've placed a miner on that node or not

[exotic oak]

hm normaly if you have a miner on it theres a check mark on it

[sterile blade]

Then I just don't recall what that means 😅

If you struggle finding an answer, it may be best asking in #1038092680493801533 (you can add pictures too)

[vague sparrow]

@winged walrus #screenshots message The lights were off somehow, took a while to get pictures lol

[winged walrus]

i gonna automate the heavy modular frame now

i have a more efficient alt recipe now

[vague sparrow]

I'm 150hrs into my save and still haven't automated those >.<

Still procrastinating making petroleum coke for the steel xD

[winged walrus]

i think i'm 60 hours

yeah i'm 60

[vague sparrow]

I've just been throwing some normal frames into a machine with the other ingredients just to pass the milestones 😛

[winged walrus]

same lmao

i hope 2 pure iron veins will be enough

i'll use only one rn

[vague sparrow]

Should be alright if u got mk3 miners going

even mk3 250% should be fine

mk2*

You can always build for mk3 so just upgrade belts later

[distant quiver]

im in my first ever playthrough i think i messed up really bad

i decided when i got to phase 2 ill make a factory for every item in one spot, 100 hours into it im making my 3rd coal power plant and am running out of spots to put these things

[winged walrus]

i don't have mk3 yet

i need alumi for those

and frames for alumi

[vague sparrow]

@distant quiver man 100hrs still coal power, you must have 10000 generators running to keep up with demand

[winged walrus]

what

[vague sparrow]

Should've replied to dapple, my bad

[vague sparrow]

still mk2 at 250% pure is still 600p/m I think, if u have some good alt recipe you can make alot of iron

[winged walrus]

eh

my conveyors only do 480 per min

[vague sparrow]

2 mk2 miners at 200% do 480

[limpid cairn]

only on pure nodes

[vague sparrow]

he has 2 iron pur enodes

[limpid cairn]

yeah i didnt see the 2 mb

[vague sparrow]

with iron alloy ingot alt recipe, add a small amount of copper, you will make millions of ingots 😄

[winged walrus]

yup

heavy flexible frame is op alt recipe

it requires less iron now

glass floor is so nice

[stable warren]

good morning, hows everyone?

[winged walrus]

making heavy modular frames

[stable warren]

that sounds cool whatever it is, but dont spoiler it

[winged walrus]

that's a part

and you need it for some recipes

[stable warren]

man my doggo disapeared

i gotta find him

[winged walrus]

same

[stable warren]

he brought me the weirdest stuff i never seen lol

[winged walrus]

haha

[stable warren]

I OFUND IT

[winged walrus]

16 cables omfg

so useful red cat

[stable warren]

lol we could swap, i get things i never even tought of

[winged walrus]

what did you get

[stable warren]

"Encased Indrustrial Beam" Oscular Escilator or wtv its called

Circuit board too

[winged walrus]

haha

very cheap resources for me

put them into awesome sink when you will unlock it

[stable warren]

i did already

wanna see my base :)

[winged walrus]

go in #screenshots then

[stable warren]

bet

alr

its not to good yet

its my first run and i got 7 hours

i spent alot exploring cus the maps cool, i found 2 hard drives already

tier 2 done, awesome

[stable warren]

you like it? i wanna get some cool colors to make it even better

also i even have a factory cart cus why not

i fell in the alpha stinger place while collecting sticks and i got brutally killed.

1.3k biofuell helll yeee

[sterile blade]

With some magic you can turn them into cuddly cats

[stable warren]

i know

its worse to see cats want to kill me

[fresh copper]

chat should i stay up til 5 or so playing satisfactory when imma get up for like a hike or smth at 10

[stable warren]

is that a question

[sterile blade]

Play responsably~

[stable warren]

this gonna take so long to make bruh

but i need the fuel

[fresh copper]

thats not quite the ficsit pioneer mindset

[sterile blade]

Ficsit isn't known for its healthy work policies ^^

[stable warren]

ficsit does not waste time

[sterile blade]

Jokes aside, being sleepy on a hike just sounds dangerous

[stable warren]

whats yall favourite part of the game

[reef basin]

T0

[stable warren]

turbo motor from doggo, valid.

[fresh copper]

okay well now i'm not even waiting on something to download so i have no excuse lol

[winged walrus]

me envy

i want turbomotor too 😭

[stable warren]

it went straight in the sink lol i cant even dream of usin git

using it*

[winged walrus]

heat sink from doggo

[stable warren]

time to start doing phase 1 grind

[winged walrus]

is there grind in satisfactory?

[stable warren]

idk

[winged walrus]

i don't think so

[stable warren]

nvm it

damn this gonna be tough to do

i just need to get rotor factory up then im good lol-

[winged walrus]

that's insanely easy lmao

[stable warren]

i know

[winged walrus]

my automation minimum is 5

[stable warren]

what does that mean

[winged walrus]

i never do less than this

5 per minute

[stable warren]

ah

i think i have to make a huge converyor from my WIP rotor factory to the assembler at the main base

[winged walrus]

nope

don't try to move all your factory outputs to the hub

that's boring and makes too many kilometer long conveyors

you will get new cool ways to move yourself around

soon™

[stable warren]

then how should i automatize the plating thing-

[winged walrus]

you don't have to automate the elevator parts

do that if you want but your can just put resources into assembler next to your elevator

[boreal musk]

id suggest to automate space part phase 1 and 2 since youre going to need a lot of them if you want to hand fed phase 3 and 4

theyre also a good source of points at early game

[versed vault]

I am encountering some train power issues, I have built a 2 way straight railway and at some point for no obvious reason my train loses power

Both train stations are powered

[winged walrus]

oh forgot about that lol

[winged walrus]

there is a #1038092680493801533 channel for such issue

s

[versed vault]

Ok

[winged walrus]

wow
lizard doggo name tag is paleberry shaped

that's cute

[stable warren]

it brought me more turbo motor

4 screws, 40 per min is pertty good but not good enough, when i get coal energy i will make multi smelter factory

[scenic zephyr]

Anyone know if I use the additional inventory slots mod on a server, can I use it solo or does everyone need it?

[reef basin]

that's best asked on modding server

[scenic zephyr]

Is there a known server for modded satisfactory? new to the game ❤️

[reef basin]

see #welcome 🙂 (which you shoudl've read 😛 )

[scenic zephyr]

Thank you!

[ivory condor]

It exists, personally not on it, not playing the game anymore either

[winged walrus]

why are you here then

nvm helping newbies is fun too

[ivory condor]

Im here to watch noobs suffer

[finite mirage]

is there a way to build a large platform like drag and scale?

[winged walrus]

zoop building mode

[finite mirage]

ah thanks

[stable warren]

19 more plate for phase 1 !

[finite mirage]

can u kill the little blue plants?

the toxic mofos

[true mulch]

💥

[finite mirage]

yeah, havent unlocked that yet

[true mulch]

that or explosive rebar

[finite mirage]

how do i find sulphur?

[true mulch]

look for rocks scattered over the place

and note you need tier 4 stuff to research it

[finite mirage]

im in tier 4

[boreal musk]

you should be able to find some sulfur deposits, research them in MAM to unlock the scanner for sulfur

[stable warren]

9 more plate!!

and i can get coal energy

[winged walrus]

why so slow

[stable warren]

cus the stupid rotor factory is far away, anyway i got it and my goal is to get coal energy then remake my whole factory

[winged walrus]

my biogens were making more energy than coal gens at that phase

then i made 18 coal gens hehe

that was fun

[stable warren]

i gotta find coal things when i unlock that thingy

i mean i gotta reaserch so i can scan

my doggo just brought me a sam

[winged walrus]

get the glass frame foundation after getting steel, it's an amazing building thing

[winged walrus]

research it in MAM

you're very lucky haha

[stable warren]

i cant, i need 10...

there is a sam thingy really close to my base anyway

[winged walrus]

that's good

[burnt ferry]

i dont get how lift splitters work.. where is their input??

[livid kernel]

they connect automatically to the lifts if they are in the right spot

[burnt ferry]

yes and then you can deconstruct the lift parts and rebuild them, but again.. where is the input?

they also have terrible snapping behavior

[livid kernel]

if you have a belt or a lift selected, it will show you the directional arrows. It's also the side that is colored differently from the other 3

and agreed, the snapping is rough

[burnt ferry]

like the lifts only jump in steps of 2m it seems.. so when you put the connecting buildings at odd meters it cant snap such that outgoing belts are straight

its super weird and hard to describe.. i think the conclusion is to not use them until they get a better interface

[unkempt blade]

if you loook at the splitter there are different colors on the input and output sides

[south sinew]

they're still a lot better than the alternatives

[livid kernel]

there is a way to have more fine adjustments I think. I've seen people do it on youtube. I have absolutely no clue how though

[south sinew]

nudge I assume

[burnt ferry]

it would involve going half steps while not in nudging mode.. never have seen that

[livid kernel]

i tried, it still jumps 2m

[burnt ferry]

you cant nudge lifts that way

[south sinew]

you can't nudge lifts, but I assume you can nudge vertical splitters/mergers on the lifts

[burnt ferry]

nope

[south sinew]

huh

[burnt ferry]

it doesnt work in the way it is needed

like the belt supports ALL jump in 2 m stgeps

wait lemme be more clear because this is complicated

[livid kernel]

I've only ever seen someone make a lift smaller by 1 nudge, never saw it the other way

[burnt ferry]

you can nudge the belt supports

however that doesnt work everywhere. .it works best with ceiling mounts

[unkempt blade]

one of my BPs is just a stack of like 10 splitters and I can move those closer or further from a machine to get it to snap with more or less clipping/overlap for the lift model

[burnt ferry]

because they dont need a foundation underneath

[livid kernel]

I'll try and remember the video, but I can't even remember what creator it was

[burnt ferry]

but if you place the non ceiling mounts in the air it wont allow you to build

[winged walrus]

what are factory carts used for

they are so funny haha

[livid kernel]

entertainment

[burnt ferry]

this is the EXACT OPPOSITE of how it works when placing trainstations and buildings.. where the game would show you a red blue print, then you press h and you can build the building.... belt mounts DO NOT work that way

[livid kernel]

it's the only use

[unkempt blade]

the same thing as other vehicles but they only move 1 stack at a time and don't need fuel

[winged walrus]

they're also cheaper ig

[unkempt blade]

also they're fun with the skatepark foundations and jump pads

[livid kernel]

and they are bound to foundations yeah? Like, completely useless off foundations?

[winged walrus]

what if i'll put factory cart into somersloop augmenter

heheh

[burnt ferry]

except ceiling mounts that is, but for their initial placement you need the ceiling, so its always a mess... now the problem with them belts is: put the belt at a foundation that is an odd number of meters of difference to the ceiling or the floor you put the belt mount on

[unkempt blade]

much harder to steer on dirt, they spin out a lot

[burnt ferry]

if you then try to nudge the mount to the desired position, it will snap above being straight and below being straight, jumping over the position where it would be straight

no chance with ctrl-nudge

i now created a super messy variant of this by stacking constructors atop each other with said incompatible spacing.. and i would be fine with them belt being not straight, but it doesnt work at all to make ablueprint from... its really annoying

[livid kernel]

not a great workaround, but you could put a 1m foundation on top of the foundation you already have, make the belt support, run the belt then delete the support and 1m foundation

[burnt ferry]

yep thats a way.. similar to the ceiling mount variant

i started to put all my logistics underneath, so i could reduce the issue mostly.. in fact, as long as there are no lift mergers/splitters involved ALL My belts go straight

[winged walrus]

is that something from phase 5?

[burnt ferry]

nah

[winged walrus]

can't find it anywhere

[livid kernel]

normal splitters on a lift head

[burnt ferry]

works as soon as you have splitters and mergers

[boreal musk]

you can only snap vertical splitter at 2m increments, so just build it around 2m and 4m foundations

[burnt ferry]

see 😂 thats what im ranting about.. the way to use them is a mess

[burnt ferry]

you need to snap a merger/splitter onto an existing lift

like onto the part that is in between the input and output of the lift..

[stable warren]

YAY I UNLOCKED coal power, oops caps

[burnt ferry]

avoiding lift mergers and splitters works great

im not ranting about there not being alternatives

[livid kernel]

lol valid use of caps lock, you're excused

[winged walrus]

this thing looks really strange

[winged walrus]

satisfactory is playable even without coal power

[stable warren]

uhm my dog just got a nuke obelisk

[winged walrus]

WHAT

I WANT THAT TOO

[stable warren]

lemme send a screenshot

[south sinew]

yeah that happens

[burnt ferry]

NO DOGGO. NO! DOGGO.. GIVE IT TO ME... YES SLOWLY. NO DOGGO. NO! DONT SHAKE IT NO DOGGO NO DOG........

[south sinew]

probably best to sink it

[stable warren]

naah

[livid kernel]

or blow something you hate up

[stable warren]

the alpha stingers going to sleep for a while

[burnt ferry]

they prefer fragnobs

[winged walrus]

kill green cats

[burnt ferry]

one normal nob is too little for them

[stable warren]

the thing is the SAM is to close to my base

[winged walrus]

that's very very good

[burnt ferry]

you talking about the same node close to beginner area underneath the arch?

[winged walrus]

my sam is very far away from me

[stable warren]

uuh idk

oh ye it is

[burnt ferry]

is there a HUGE arch atop it? like you see that from biomes away

[winged walrus]

why my lizard doggo just stays in one place

[stable warren]

same but it will bring u stuff

[winged walrus]

yeah

[stable warren]

yep im there

[winged walrus]

which spawn place did you choose

[burnt ferry]

find the upper entrance right underneath the arch.. its protected by some fume plants. take them out with nobelisks or just jump around them, they have a cooldown.... then build some ramps downwards, not to far.. check with building tool... you can put the miner from above, without getting down.. you can then attach a lift the same way

[stable warren]

the thing is i dont want my stuff to get dmged ucs im right next to it

[burnt ferry]

you might need more than one lift though, or you use the floorhole trick

[stable warren]

1st one ofc

[burnt ferry]

there is no damage to your buildings

[stable warren]

oh alr

ima just nuke the hell out of that place

does anyone wanna watch-

[burnt ferry]

infact. if you put foundations into the entire caves floor the stinger wont respawn

[winged walrus]

i chose the 4th one because of the biomes next to it and there is a lot of resources

the desert is op

it has a lot of everything

[stable warren]

this is my 1st run

[winged walrus]

this is my first run too

[burnt ferry]

and tons of radiation and dangerous fauna.. tipp: you can start in noob area and then just migrate up north once you can stand the dangers

[stable warren]

ah

[burnt ferry]

that being said, its perfectly possible to start from that place.. just a matter of taste

[stable warren]

so do i js drop the nuke in the cave

[burnt ferry]

the upside certainly is the crashsites around the 4th location contain lots of endgame mats

[stable warren]

wai

[winged walrus]

the plains one is the worst in my opinion haha

[stable warren]

how do i detonate it

[winged walrus]

nobelisk detonator

[stable warren]

i aint got that

[winged walrus]

you can't detonate it then

[stable warren]

awh hell nah

i need the black poweder stuff for it

[winged walrus]

that's sad, would be better if you handed it over to me heheh

[winged walrus]

it's very cheap, don't sink the nuclear bomb

[stable warren]

i didnt even think of that haha

[burnt ferry]

(you can buy nobelisks from the shop)

[stable warren]

that alpha stingers going to sleep well

[burnt ferry]

i havent crafted a single gram of black powder yet

[winged walrus]

(only after getting detonator)

i automated both types of powder

[burnt ferry]

(without getting detonator you cant do shit with them nobelisks anyway, so who cares?) 😂

[burnt ferry]

certainly not a waste.. i have to account for buying stuff in the shop by generating a bit more coupons, than youd normally had to

[stable warren]

what are electromagnetic control rods..

[burnt ferry]

late game stuff

crashsite requiring it?

[dense violet]

an items used for a few things

[winged walrus]

waste them

into sink

[dense violet]

or save them for future things?

you can always automate random crap for points

[burnt ferry]

starting from their place, the first electromagnetic control rod thing i found going north to your place was a crashsite requiringthem rods

[stable warren]

i foudn coal except i got brutally killed by a aimbotted fire spitting thing

[winged walrus]

never seen any crashsites that are requiring them

[burnt ferry]

spitters

[winged walrus]

ok

[dense violet]

they fire where you will be, change direction as soon as it fires

[burnt ferry]

its in red forest, south of your starting area

[dense violet]

if you keep going at the same direction and speed they will always hit you

[stable warren]

hmm thanks

[dense violet]

I believe this includes the big spitters that fire a ball and explode? you might need to weave around those? can't recall

[burnt ferry]

i think theres one up at your place as well, but im not 100% sure if it was requiring it or if they were laying around

[winged walrus]

i hit my heat sink factory by accident

[burnt ferry]

yep.. found it..

[stable warren]

its kinda small

[winged walrus]

it doesn't give me anything anymore

it got untamed

[burnt ferry]

theres babies

take three hits with the basher

unless they start running

[stable warren]

im gonna get the sword thing

[dense violet]

some are big and different coloured 🙂

[stable warren]

ty for the help i appreatice it

alr i've got the upgrade, time to craft it

alr time to hunt that stupid thing

[burnt ferry]

#screenshots message only one material left

[stable warren]

finally

hmm i also need water

i have a question, is 1 coal generator enough for a whole factory? idk how this coal thing works

ye this was a dumb question

[winged walrus]

get 18 like me

or 9 gens with 2 shards in each one

1 normal coal source will be enough

[burnt ferry]

depends.. each building has a power consumption in watts and the coal generators generate watts... in early game the output of a coal generator sounds massive, but will quickly be outruled by oil based power consumption.. this doesnt mean you should not build coal power.. just dont worry too much about it... if you build enough generators to consume all the coal from one normal or pure node itll be enough for a while certainly

[sick dragon]

This is when he powered it on and went "oh" lol

[burnt ferry]

most importantly: once the coal is running, separate your biomass burners (dont destruct them, just separate them from the network with the coal generators..) then build power storages. Those will tank consumption peaks, if those jump over your total capacity....

[winged walrus]

oil eats a lot of power?

i didn't even notice that

[burnt ferry]

you need lots of machinery to produce fuel

you cant just burn oil directly like coal

if coal generators are build low enough, they dont require any extra power except for the coal miner

[winged walrus]

i use eh 3 refinery to get enough fuel for 18 diesel generators

or 4 refinery i don't remember

[burnt ferry]

nobody said its impossible to be net positive.,.. and of course the ratio is better than with coal,otherwise nobody would use oil...

but just check the power requirement of a refinery.. its quite a lot in comparison

especially when compared to one miner only

[winged walrus]

oh

400 MW

didn't know it eats that much

[burnt ferry]

thats more than 3 coal generators 😂

[winged walrus]

haha

[burnt ferry]

you should avoid putting power shards there as well

as power consumption is increased by square at least

[winged walrus]

i put always put 3 shards if somerslooping it

i have too much somersloops so don't hate me

[burnt ferry]

if you put more refineries instead you gain a lot more power

[winged walrus]

i will get less output or waste much more somersloops

[burnt ferry]

slops is a different mechanic, also consumes more power but generates material out of nothing

[winged walrus]

it just doubles the output

[burnt ferry]

shards just increase production speed, while increasing power consumption faster than speed

[winged walrus]

i know

[burnt ferry]

hence 2 refineries set to 100% consume less power than one refinery set to 200%

[winged walrus]

it's better to put 3 shards into somerslooped refinery

[burnt ferry]

so you loose power by saving space for refineries

[burnt ferry]

thats not the point

and no.. it really doesnt matter as shards do not increase material produced relative to input

you can just build jmore producers instead.. it makes sense in the way that you have limited amount of slops

[winged walrus]

i'll use more crude oil then

[burnt ferry]

but slops increase power consumption even more

[burnt ferry]

my point is: when power sharding fuel production, you loose power. you will get more power out of the facility if you just remove the shards and built more refineries instead

[winged walrus]

i don't care about power

[burnt ferry]

in fact you can increase power gain even more by UNDERclocking the refineries to say 50% and then bulit twice the amount of them

as at 50% clockrate the refinery will consume LESS THAN 50% of the power

[winged walrus]

that's very good

[burnt ferry]

me neither, but we talking about power generation.. you just waste both shards and power 😂

i mean im not demanding you to change it, but theres much better use for all your shards, slops AND the crude oil

[winged walrus]

i will loose less oil, somersloops and get MUCH more fuel if i'll use only one maxed refinery but will loose just a bit of power

[burnt ferry]

no it doesnt make up

you generate twice the amount of oil with them slops yes

(the shards again dont change anything but productino speed which doesnt matter as you can just build more refineries)

but with them slops, yes there is twice the amount of fuel

[winged walrus]

sloops give more output with 3 shards

much more

[burnt ferry]

BUT.. itll require more than twice the amount of power

[winged walrus]

i don't care about power

it will generate more out of the fuel it makes

much more

[burnt ferry]

so you are not talking about a power generator but about a plaastic/rubber factory

[winged walrus]

what

[burnt ferry]

bruh.. i dont know what youre up to.. i talk about power generation onlyu.. i separate my facilities also. the fuel from one crude oil source goes into power 100% and then i use a different crude oil source for other stuff

if you mix those, then surely yes you might want to increase the fuel output

(although its best to slop the material at the END of the production chain and not at the beginning)

[winged walrus]

i'm too confused

[burnt ferry]

yes because you talk about two different things that you put into one facility.. which is fine, but of course increases complexity

[winged walrus]

i'll just play and use the more productive way

[burnt ferry]

that would be the one where you exploit all the oil nodes in the best way 😂

but you will see what i mean eventually, no worries

i did it the same way as you did, so im not saying im smarter or something

but you should consider this advice right now: the slops do the most at the END of the production chain

so if you use the fuel to produce anything else with it, slopping that would be more efficient, as you effectively multiply the other input material as well

[finite mirage]

is there way to cap the fps of the game when tabbed out

i spend quite a lot of time tabbed out and i just dont wanna waste that excess electricitry

[burnt ferry]

oh and this is only true, if you are limited to slop only one facility... if you could slop more than that sharding it would again not generate more material than not sharding

its really simple actually.. shards ONLY increase speed, slops generate more material from thin air.. both do it by consuming more additional power than the material they generate faster or from thin air

[winged walrus]

i'm too stooped to read that much text

[prime jasper]

What is a good heavy modular frame production to fit my future needs?

[burnt ferry]

encased

with encased pipes, adhered plates, coated plates

[dense violet]

just make a handful a minute and keep going. Future proofing is generally a waste of time

[winged walrus]

i gonna make 7.5 heavy modular frame per minute

i hope that's enough

[livid kernel]

It's easiest just to make enough for your needs imo. When you get further and need more, just up the production lines

[winged walrus]

i know

[robust thorn]

is it normal for me to have a giant white square on my screen when holding a nobelisk detonator

[winged walrus]

to fix it don't hold a nobelisk detonator in your hands

[wet totem]

I am struggling with fluids. My distilled silica keeps shutting down and I'm pretty sure it's related to priority merging of fluids. As far as I can tell I've built a system that should prioritize the recycled water, yet the silica factories keep shutting down. What might I be doing wrong? There are no backups in the silica output and no input problems with the dissolved silica or limestone. screenshots hopefully help. looks like I can't post a screenshot. The recipe calls for 51.195 water from an extractor which I'm merging into the 204.8 recycled water from the 2.56 blenders from a pipeline that is 2 meters above any recycled water pipe. I've got the water extracter tuned to the exact amount. what might I be missing? I'm about to just add a second water extractor to supply the 204.8 water and convert the recycled water into steamed copper sheets instead as a fix, but I'd really rather figure out my mistake. Any help?

[south sinew]

don't priority merge fluids, you need to separate consumers so that some machines only consume fresh and others only consume waste, and keep them totally separated

[cedar portal]

You can post screenshots in the screenshot channel, or you can post in #1038092680493801533 where you can also post lots of screenshots

[south sinew]

this often involves building a couple more machines than you would otherwise need but works a lot more reliably

[winged walrus]

ahh too much textt

i'm allergic to messages with more than 1 sentence

[wet totem]

I hadn't thought of separating machines

sorry about the lengthy explain. thought I'd be able to screenshot. I'll try the separation first, then see if I still need a fix.

thank you puppy

[cedar portal]

What @south sinew said. I abandoined priority fluid mergers as too unstable. What I do is have group A machines beeing fed everytthing they need, and the extra output feeds group B. Use a priority belt merger to ensure that products from B are consumed before A and that prevents any deadlocks.

[wet totem]

the overall project is to make 38.4 Uranium Fuel Rods

[winged walrus]

uranium rods 😋