satisfactory

[trim vine]

That shouldnt be the case, if it comes up again, please send a screenshot

Then there is your answer

[dense spoke]

Thanks

[bright helm]

ok thank u

[crisp crane]

I’ll try, I’m off to work but I’ll probably be back on later tonight

[ivory condor]

Probably why the game won't support cross play between console and pc, because they have to do special optimization for the console release.

[bright helm]

And the best part is PC players can always upgrade their PC

and console players cant

[ivory condor]

Yep, console is going to be limited on how much you can grow your factory no matter what

Though I suspect some players will probably break their consoles on this game anyways😹

Really no solution to that problem, best they can do is try to optimize for console as much as possible

[bright helm]

At what tier do I craft circut boards?

[dense spoke]

I just want this game

And I dont have a pc

[reef basin]

sell a console, buy a pc

[bright helm]

I wanted amplifier but I got lucky and I found 54 circut boards in a wreck

Pc is so much better

[true mulch]

tier 5

[dense spoke]

Eh im a console person

[trim vine]

buy a pc, plug in a controller

[true mulch]

a console allows you to game, a PC allows you to game and do other stuff

[true mulch]

unironically tho

[dense spoke]

Well nitendo is my favrite console

[ivory condor]

I imagine console loading satisfactory will be like "Why do I hear boss music" moment😹

[true mulch]

the latest gen consoles shouldn't have problems with performance I believe

[dense spoke]

Except Nintendo

[true mulch]

it's not coming out on the Switch 2, but it can handle CP2077

[dense spoke]

Okay

[stark lagoon]

hi guys is there a way to permanently turn of lights of parked vehicles? coz mine always turns on whenever i go back to them parked

[ivory condor]

Problem is Satisfactory remains a very demanding game, because those aren't fixed requirements, unlike even CP2077

[true mulch]

yeah, naturally the performance goes down the more you build

[ivory condor]

Factory building remain a unique type of game because of unfixed system requirements

[last tartan]

The northeastern begalf of the map is my new favorite all time 😍😍

[dense spoke]

Im just ready for it to come to ps5

[spark wedge]

We know when next update arrives?

[fluid sapphire]

no

[spark wedge]

And some content?

[daring stag]

isn't the game done?

[ivory condor]

Right, creative games like this are difficult to optimize for, even for pc, let alone console, which at best will be challenging

[fluid sapphire]

its nothing short of a miracle the game runs as well as it does

[true mulch]

consoles have the advantage that you know what exact hardware to optimize for

[true mulch]

for a UE5 game... yeah xD

[naive palm]

Fingers crossed, crashes have practically disappeared for me after 1.0

[fluid sapphire]

i have a lot more crashes after 1.1

[spark wedge]

I am so hyped for 1.2

[fluid sapphire]

i get like 10 every day i swear

[ivory condor]

Right, but how much can the factory grow on console, while maintaining a playable framerate is a definitely a question

[naive palm]

I wonder if they'll implement a PCU limit like space engineers for satisfactory on consoles. Just a broad way of controlling and limiting complexity.

There is technically an actor limit on PC, it's just so high only the most diabolical factory madmen run into it.

[true mulch]

afaik console games have to work around crashes as much as possible

[last tartan]

Y’all get crashes?

[true mulch]

so if they can prevent the UE limit crash, they probably will have to

[fluid sapphire]

sometimes i am standing still, not doing anything and the game crashes

[last tartan]

how tf is my ancient 600 dollar pc doing better than you guys 😭😭

[fluid sapphire]

no crashes =/= better pc

[naive palm]

crashes are often more closely related to driver quality and developer foresight than the price of your PC.

[true mulch]

restricting the total building count could work, but foundations cause less objects to be made than factory buildings

[last tartan]

typically could correlate with quality of things in your household

[fluid sapphire]

(but no, i dont have powerful hardware)

[last tartan]

internet, lack of good hardware user error etc

[fluid sapphire]

silly assumption, game is just unstable

[last tartan]

But yes a computer’s hardware quality doesn’t usually correlate with how your game crashes or not

[lean ferry]

Bro I was getting jumped by a radioactive hog but a stinger and his freinds ganged up on him

[true mulch]

my previous PC had the most popular AMD GPU on the market and I've lost hair due to the problems I've had with drivers

[ivory condor]

I have thought about that to, there likely is going to be a lower limit for console because of limited system resources

[lean ferry]

Ok NEVERMIND I’m their next target

[naive palm]

that said I got the game to run just fine on a 1050ti 8gb tower running Linux which was a surprise to me as much as anyone else.

[lean ferry]

Meanwhile me with a 1650 that nearly crashes opening google with satisfactory open 🙂

[last tartan]

AMD drivers are the stuff now 😮‍💨 Nvidia’s new 50 series drivers have sucked forever

[fluid sapphire]

i used to play on i5-8500 and rx580, it was OK, but started to struggle a bit after a while

[last tartan]

Similar build for me, i5-6600k and a 580

[fluid sapphire]

i literally upgraded so i could have a smoother satisfactory experience, thats the primary reason

[last tartan]

that’s why I’m about to upgrade again 😭

[ivory condor]

I had a worse system at one point aka rx 560, the performance during ea with this game was very bad needless to say

[last tartan]

Salute to this absolute unit

[ivory condor]

I remember back then. I started to build, game quickly became close to unplayable, it ran so slow indeed

[naive palm]

I will say this is an excessive amount of crashing. Even when I started back in update 4 I would get a crash maybe once a week (playing a couple hours every day)

[fluid sapphire]

now i can build massive glass towers and not feel the fps drop

[ivory condor]

I swear my framerate back then was so low it was like watching a movie in slow motion🥴

[naive palm]

second-per-frame life

you can relive those days by hitting tilde and setting maxfps to 5

[fluid sapphire]

i am maybe exaggerating a bit, its not every day i get 10, sometimes i get 7-8, today so far i have had like 5 maybe

[ivory condor]

It only took one second to render a single frame🥴

[fluid sapphire]

sometimes the game crashes after 5 minutes of playing, other time it runs fine for 10 hours straight

[daring stag]

holy cow packaged ionized fuel is something else with the jetpack

[fluid sapphire]

its fucking lit fr fr

[ivory condor]

I have lost count how many times the game has crashed for me lol

[fluid sapphire]

used to be really stable after the first few patches after 1.0

[ivory condor]

Satisfactory: Game Crash Edition XD

[fluid sapphire]

but hey, whatever, id rather have the features of 1.1 with crashes than not have them and have a stable game

[ivory condor]

I wouldn't agree🥴

Thankfully it seems mostly stable now

[fluid sapphire]

i cant live without auto-connect anymore

or vertical nudge

that is such a game changer

[naive palm]

vertical nudge my beloved...

[fluid sapphire]

i can finally cosplay wireless machine grids

[ivory condor]

Sure if/when it works, but last I tested that, it was still really buggy and worked half the time at best

[naive palm]

I've been fighting for my life to build perfect, seamless foundation curves for rails this week. I still haven't figured out a solution to my satisfaction, but I would have given up already if hold, nudge, and vertical nudging weren't in the game.

[fluid sapphire]

i have no idea what you mean, i dont have any issues with it?

it has its quirks, but it works very predictably

[lean ferry]

Guys if there are no available alt recipes and I scan do I lose my hard drive?

[ivory condor]

Auto-connect sure seems like one of those especially experimental features, that is very much still in a experimental state of some sort

[fluid sapphire]

the belt/rail/pipe stub on the newly placed BP has to line up with a belt/rail/pipe stub or port of a previous BP, then you click to lock and do your final placement, whats the problem?

[ivory condor]

In my previous testing it worked about as reliable, as throwing a dart blind folded at a board and just hoping hard it even makes it inside any of the circles

[trim vine]

no, it works great

[fluid sapphire]

i find the default autoconnect is very unreliable, but the blueprint one is really good

[fathom shuttle]

It works like you want wdym

[fathom shuttle]

It’s the opposite for me lol

[fluid sapphire]

sometimes it doesnt matter, i do do a lot of manual alignment for both the connection and final placement

[ivory condor]

Sure if your lucky🙃

[main topaz]

I don't think it lets you, or it will just hold onto the scanned drive until there are alts.

[fathom shuttle]

With blueprint auto connect something weird happens and the instead of snapping to the other building it snaps to the foundations

[fluid sapphire]

you just have to learn how to use it

[trim vine]

No, I build and design in such a way to forward think for it

[trim vine]

I hate saying "skill issue" in here, but its a skill issue likely

[fluid sapphire]

sure, the snapping is a bit weird, but just aim roughly where you need the prints to go and nudge it in place

[trim vine]

The only annoying thing about auto connect is when it tries to connect belts where I might not want them, but thats fine and happens rarely when building near other BPs

[fluid sapphire]

or, yes, build your prints so they work how the connect feature expects

[ivory condor]

Alot of issues with auto-connect in my testing, connecting in ways that don't make sense, connecting but breaking when you reloaded, making it basically useless, etc

[fathom shuttle]

That’s redundant with default auto connect, you can just place it exactly where you want

[trim vine]

Have never experienced this, and I dont really build outside of BP form/connects for systems

[fluid sapphire]

i heard about this bug but i am pretty sure thats been patched out, i have literally not once had a previously made connection unlink

[ivory condor]

Some of the issues with auto-connect still wasn't been fixed, such as it still wants to connect to connects that are close, even if I don't want to connect to those, making for alot of my builds, auto-connect basically something I cant even use

[lean ferry]

Auto connect is annoying because it doesn’t always connect intended input and output

[fathom shuttle]

That’s an early bug in experimental that was patched out

[trim vine]

This is a fair critique

[lean ferry]

Let’s say you have a blueprint that had a merger and splitter line the splitter line will cross over to nether

[fluid sapphire]

if you have a lot of connection points nearby, then yes, its finicky

[trim vine]

But to say its unreliable and does not work is not

[lean ferry]

Merger*

[ivory condor]

Only the connection being lost when reloaded was fixed, the other issues basically havent been

[lean ferry]

It all depends on the blueprint

[trim vine]

Can you give me an example of BPs you have where you are experiencing mass failure of "as intended" features?

[ivory condor]

Meaning for most of my design patterns, auto-connect is basically a useless feature....

[fathom shuttle]

If you’re making very weird design choices that are basically edge cases as far as blueprints are concerned that’s not a really problem

[lean ferry]

Like the one I just told you? Like when you make blender or manufacturer blueprints and you have to handle lots of inputs and outputs

[trim vine]

Then you built the BPs poorly with respect to being able to utilize that feature of the game

[ivory condor]

Nope that isn't the problem

[trim vine]

Again, I have BP's that use that, and have not experienced these problems

[ivory condor]

Even for the bps I tried to do that, because of how the feature works, aka wanting to connect to places i dont want to, it still isnt something I can use

[trim vine]

Yes, your own fallacies could never be the problem

Again, I invite you to share BP designs in #design-and-architecture and lets take a look

[ivory condor]

Wrong on that one, this is a problem with how the feature is implemented

[lean ferry]

Side question rq I scanned a hard drive and when I checked hard drive tab there wasn’t anything

[willow dawn]

Sooo I just trippled my power AND made 150 packaged fuel for drones... hopefully that will be enough for a little while

[trim vine]

Did you click on accept before tabbing over?

[fathom shuttle]

Then provide some examples lol

[lean ferry]

Yea

[ivory condor]

Sure, want to see all of my simple examples of connecting being applied in all of the cases I dont want it to?

[trim vine]

Again, provide examples, or we cant help/wont get anywhere, and this is just another "game doesnt work how I think it should so it must be broken" convo

[lean ferry]

And I definetly have not run out of recipes cuz I dont have diluted fuel and recycled rubber yet

[ivory condor]

I have plenty examples of that one trust me

[fathom shuttle]

I just asked for an example dawg

[fluid sapphire]

well, share them then?

[fathom shuttle]

Then share 💀

[lean ferry]

Nvm lol I think I didn’t press the scan button bruh

[trim vine]

Shouldnt be the case, and it wont let you scan if you dont have recipes, try rebuilding the MAM and seeing again

[ivory condor]

Want pictures?

[ashen token]

i had a problem with my power's water supply and after 1000000 years of trying to fix it
it was all just 1 pump that wasnt connected to power 🥲

[lean ferry]

My fault I checked

[trim vine]

Nooooooooooo, thats not what we've been asking for this whole time

[ivory condor]

Sure, not that it will fix this oh so very experimental feature

[fathom shuttle]

Send them over Bluetooth to my brain

[trim vine]

Its a feature, not experimental

[ivory condor]

Lol ok

[fluid sapphire]

just because a feature doesnt conform to how you want it to work doesnt mean its broken

we can analyze the way you are trying to use it, and help you actually make use of it though

[ivory condor]

And just because you think the feature is great and without issues doesn't mean thats true either

[fluid sapphire]

i literally said earlier that i have had some issues with it

not to the point of it being completely useless

[last tartan]

I used to get average 40

[fluid sapphire]

its very good for belts and rail in particular, it struggles with pipes in my experience

[lean ferry]

Guys there’s a hard drive that needs 25 cooling system I have 24 what do I do

[valid lark]

Hi! Quick question. Is it the same (power consumption wise) 2 constructors, than 1 constructor overclocked to x2?

[lean ferry]

WAIT the goat awesome shop 🙂

[fluid sapphire]

overclocking uses more power per product produced

[willow dawn]

ahhhhhh so many pipes going so many places and no issues at all.... it's beatiful to see

[valid lark]

Oh, I see, so its better having 2 machines instead if I want to save power

[fluid sapphire]

you can even go a step further in some scenarios and underclock to save power

[valid lark]

In this case was more about the space, since where Im building rn its pretty limited

[ivory condor]

Oh ok, guess its just useless with my design patterns then, good to know I guess

[fluid sapphire]

if its a small amount of machines, its a small difference

[trim vine]

No, power requirements go up exponentially, versus building more machines

[trim vine]

THATS WHAT I SAID!!!

You built poor design (for this feature, not in general)

[fluid sapphire]

well, you aren't sharing your design patterns so who can tell, but yeah it works in a particular way so yeah it expects you to conform to that obviously

like any other mechanic

[ivory condor]

First call caps isnt it, and as I said your wrong, why do you keep repeating yourself

saying it in caps isnt going to make a wrong and incorrect statement true you know

[fluid sapphire]

but its literally a fact

[ivory condor]

No it isnt

[trim vine]

you're*

Saying it doesnt make it so

And since you refuse to share any designs, I don't care

But you will not make claims that something is useless because you cant be bothered to figure it out

It's like when people come in here complaining about trains and MK2 pipes

[fluid sapphire]

it doesnt work for you because you dont build for the feature, you build counter to it

you cant argue with that

[ivory condor]

If you dont care, why are you still responding?

[south elm]

OH MY GOD I just found out you can manually put 33.3333 into underclocking to actually get 1/3rd of production, that saves sooooo much issues I had with my 100% setups maaaaan

[unkempt blade]

I like capslock. It's easier to read. All my factory signs use caps

[ivory condor]

Really if you dont care, just stop responding to me

[trim vine]

Please, acquire reading comprehension skills

read the fourth paragraph

[last tartan]

heated argument ‼️ ‼️ time to lickidy split ✌️

[ivory condor]

Already did, as said your wrong

[trim vine]

you're*

[trim vine]

as in, you're wrong and inept

[unkempt blade]

Just kiss already so we can go back to talking about why factory carts are the best vehicle 😆

[south elm]

Cyber wagoon*

[ivory condor]

Insulting people isnt going to prove anything you know. For example I could say your inept, but there isnt any point

[fluid sapphire]

the feature expects a certain kind of design, and you work against that so the feature doesnt work for you - this is a literal fact

[trim vine]

you gotta have a circular factory for those

[ivory condor]

Is it because you cant deal with the fact your wrong, seems like a you problem

[fluid sapphire]

what are you even talking about

[lean ferry]

Recycled rubber lets goo

[trim vine]

You can say anything you want, it doesnt make it so.

If I am having a problem with the game, I come with screenshots, sharing, videos, detailed itemized lists of the problems

You just come in here, throw your hands up, and say shits broken, when you just arent designing for said system

[finite garnet]

Kids move on....

[ivory condor]

Oh dont worry about it, this person is just acting like a child at this point

[fluid sapphire]

Im sorry but you are too, kinda, no?

[ivory condor]

But thanks for remaining civil, unlike the person above

[last tartan]

should i research oil refining or jetpack first

[trim vine]

What I have done that hasnt been civil? Passionate maybe, but still civil

[fluid sapphire]

i just think that if you adjusted your patterns a bit, you could make use of an awesome feature, thats all

[trim vine]

-stares in Z axis-

[unkempt blade]

probably oil refining so you can gas up the jetpack

[ivory condor]

#satisfactory message when you crossed the point with insults

[fluid sapphire]

but obviously if you dont want that, then there is no convincing you

[ivory condor]

You crossed that point, not me, thats on you

[dreamy scroll]

Why are we engaging with the ragebaiter.

[ivory condor]

Good point

[leaden turret]

XKCD-386 time again

[ivory condor]

Though to me fair, im not the ragebaiter here

[trim vine]

I mean....

inept: having or showing no skill; clumsy

Which is a fair description of the current skill set being displayed with respect to the fact you're harping on auto connect being a broken feature

[ivory condor]

for example, i never was insulting anybody as clear as the points above

[trim vine]

Anywho, moving on

[unkempt blade]

sorry I only know the one about fighting on chairs while my code compiles project parts finish

[leaden turret]

someone is wrong on the internet

[ivory condor]

I could keep going on about why your wrong, but i dont see the point

[unkempt blade]

this seems like a good time for my extremely important recurring PSA that factory carts can use jump pads

skate parks are great and all but they're ever better with some jump pads for the sick aerial tricks

[fluid sapphire]

thats it, i have to put a "factory cart skatepark" on my todo list

[leaden turret]

https://communityhighlights.satisfactory.video/meta-search/?q=skatepark

[fluid sapphire]

thats sick as hell

[willow dawn]

My drone has a red outline on my screen... will this go away?

[ivory condor]

Did you still want those examples of auto-connecting doing all of its thing, went back to testing but it is as I saw before, experimental feature alright

Well can't say I'm suprised, it just guesses here on connects, so even connections being near is enough for it to decide, that it wants to connect to any of these, meaning for all of my manifolds that are side by side, basically cant use it for any of them

[dreamy scroll]

I've been getting this on vehicles I place. Had to hover the deconstruct option on it and it went away. Not sure if there is a reason, but it didn't time out for me otherwise. Would be nice if somebody knew why it was happening.

[willow dawn]

Thanks, that did it for me too

[pure condor]

why is caterium an unlockable scannable ore in tier 5 if you can get it from mam

[fluid sapphire]

without a screenshot its impossible to tell

[trim vine]

a good number of things in the MAM are unlocked later on, in case you happen to completely skip the MAM

[ivory condor]

Where would you want the screenshot, dm?

[pure condor]

oh

[fluid sapphire]

you could put it in https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/932761153703149659

[trim vine]

But you should be burried in the MAM trying to unlock stuff the moment you get it 😛

[pure condor]

ah ok

[ivory condor]

Ok sure if you want to look at it, but it is as I said before, this isnt a design problem with even the bp, but as I said, with the auto-connect feature itself, and the really sad part about this, there is basically no changes I can make to the bp to fix it either, so thats great....

[pure condor]

how am I supposed to kill the spiders they are literally impossible

[fluid sapphire]

sure, i am curious

[trim vine]

[leaden turret]

[pure condor]

I see

very helpful

[ivory condor]

Thats fair

[pure condor]

do you have guys have the hostility set to retiliate or am I just bad 😢

[fluid sapphire]

i do, 300 hours of fighting was enough for me. pesky locals getting in my way

[trim vine]

Unlock Rebar Gun/Rifle/Nobelisk, even the upgraded stun thing works wonders

[fluid sapphire]

i donthave time for that

[ivory condor]

#design-and-architecture message enjoy

I mean I won't because I can't fix it, but still interesting to look at I suppose

[pure condor]

the only weapon I have is the energy sword ting

[dreamy scroll]

I'm bad and I have them set to normal. The rage fuels my building.

[trim vine]

works great for everything

[ivory condor]

And what was that I was inept, little does that person know how wrong they are....

[vestal mica]

the first one or the upgrade you get with steel?

[pure condor]

I didnt even know u can upgrade it

how

[ivory condor]

Guess I cant see a day ill using auto-connect with my bps, sad

[fluid sapphire]

im gonna have dinner but i will be back to look at this later

[ruby mountain]

equipment workshop, if you have it unlocked

[trim vine]

I dont understand the problem here, is it connecting where you dont want it to, do you want it to connect elsewhere?

[ivory condor]

But also not suprised the results havent changed at all

[pure condor]

the only option is the normal one

when do I unlock it

[ivory condor]

Two manifolds here, it shouldnt be connecting to the manifold on the other side, but because I have no control it is and I cant stop it

[trim vine]

MAM 🙂

[vestal mica]

one of the milestones in tier 3

not the mam

[trim vine]

gonna talk more in the design channel, since its where I can see the image and reference it

[ivory condor]

another bad thing about auto-connect, very little control over it all

[pure condor]

mam 😔

[ivory condor]

but the problem i feel is two fold, one with how bps are and two, with how its integrated with auto-connect

[vestal mica]

no, it's a milestone

[vestal mica]

not the mam for the stick upgrade

[ashen token]

guys how to i make these graphs to calculate my production

[trim vine]

Oh, he said energy sword so I assumed it was the upgraded one

[vestal mica]

yeah, that's not the MAM

[ruby mountain]

yeah thats in tier 3

[pure condor]

no I have that

I was talking about the upgraded one

[vestal mica]

!wikisearch xeno-basher

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=xeno-basher

[vestal mica]

if you have that, you can fight big spiders pretty well, i would just run away if you still have the starter version

[pure condor]

I have it

[vestal mica]

but an even better idea is to research the sulfur tree in the mam to get explosives and rifles

[pure condor]

im on tier 5 now

[vestal mica]

well there you go. that's how you kill spiders. although the gas spiders I personally would avoid unless i have ranged weapons and a way to stay out of range of their jumps

[pure condor]

are those the spides that have a black cat instead of a tabby cat

[vestal mica]

i don't use the dumb cat mode, so i don't know

[past ledge]

It appears that currently both smart and programmable splitters do not sort berries or nuts. Any suggestions how I can sort these out of a belt without causing complete stoppage when new player joins and drops "leftovers" in my recycling bin? tia

[willow dawn]

Ok, I am going to have some dinner. Expanded my power and have my first drone flying bringing packaged fuel back to my main base

Thats enough for right now

Time to start planning elevator part #7

[lean ferry]

Are there good stator, motor and rotor recipes cuz they are expensive in large amounts

[main topaz]

There are a few ways, but I use both Satisfactory Calculator and Factorio Lab.

[reef basin]

what resources do you want to save on?

by now you should know that there's no generic "good" recipes

[trim vine]

Baseline Stator is great
Steel Rotor is amazing

They both line up 5 to 5, and feed into motors evenly

[unkempt blade]

Cat mode is way scarier so it makes the game feel more exciting

[reef basin]

steel rotor is expensive lol

[lean ferry]

Copper because I need copper powder I don’t mind about anything else

[trim vine]

greeny pls

[leaden turret]

🏃‍♀️

[reef basin]

they literally said they want to save on resources

[naive palm]

I really enjoy the steel rotor and iron wire recipe. You can make a whole motor factory out of steel pipes and wire.
If I just want a factory off in narnia crunching out motors I'll pair it with the iron pipe recipe. So you get iron ore -> motors easy (though not very efficient iron-wise)

[unkempt blade]

My little 10lb cat regularly beats up my 70lb dog so I have to assume one of the alpha cats in game could fight military vehicles at least

[lean ferry]

I don’t really need much coal lol I have a lot of spare nodes so I can do that to save iron

I can also handcraft turbo motors to make myself some mk3 miners

In using pressure recipe and I have everything else automated

[last tartan]

the NEAREST crude deposit is 2500m away 😭

[past ledge]

Can you help @ruby mountain ?

[ruby mountain]

smart splitters dont sort nuts or berries for you?

[past ledge]

not an option in there

[lean ferry]

WAIT IRON WIRE IS A THING

[ruby mountain]

odd...

[lean ferry]

that makes everything so much easier 🙂

[trim vine]

Welcome to the future bb

[lean ferry]

I have iron pipe but I never knew wire could work

[past ledge]

search "ber" only shows rubber - and "nut" is blank

[trim vine]

I literally have so much iron wire being made for my phase 4/5 factory for the stator rotor combo

[lean ferry]

That means I can make the whole factory based on iron and coal

[ruby mountain]

It works for me, must be a bug

[trim vine]

More or less, yuup 🙂

Solid Steel is a life saver when making pipe

Would recommend making either wet concrete or rubber concrete for molded pipes to make even more 😛

[lean ferry]

I’m gonna ship in the packages nitrogen and the pressure conversion

[lean ferry]

Don’t have any of those because my luck is so bad

I have 15 hard drives sooooo I think I should be able to get it

[past ledge]

are you suggesting that the option to sort berries and nuts via smart or programmable splitter is available? I'm not seeing them at all. Is that an unlock in the MAM somewhere?

[white dawn]

Sometimes having an option on the Smart Splitter seems to require some kind of milestone or something to be completed; it's weird

[trim vine]

Get em ASAP before you start building, it will make your life soooo easy

• Wet Concrete or Rubber, depending on what you got going on
• Molded Pipe
• Solid Steel
• Iron Wire

Motors become sooooo easy

[white dawn]

If berries/nuts aren't showing up, have you done the first level of MAM research on them? That could be what triggers it, maybe?

[ruby mountain]

maybe nutritional processor (MAM)? you probably already have that right?

[lean ferry]

Icl why mam take so long to research hard drives

It’s gonna take me 2hrs and a half to research all my drives

[white dawn]

It took my game ages to let me smart-split Somersloops for some reason despite having done what seems like it should've been sufficient MAM research

[open pollen]

That’s why you research while you explore and do a new one each time one finishes 😉

[trim vine]

my advice, scan hard drives, and go gather more drives, slug, sloops, spheres.

Drop a MAM when its done scanning, start a new one, delete the MAM and keep going, easy way to kill an hour or so

[white dawn]

I haven't run into the berry/nut problem with SSes before, but it could be that I just don't get around to setting up storage until whatever unlocks them unlocks them

[junior flower]

does having multiple trains make it go faster/get stronger?

[white dawn]

Multiple engines does improve the acceleration power, but not top speed

[trim vine]

Yes, multiple train engines will help pull larger trains

[white dawn]

As you add more and more cars, or have steeper grades to go up, multiple engines may be required

(and remember that cars get heavier as the amount of material inside increases)

[junior flower]

alright thanks

[past ledge]

It was the nutritional inhaler in the MAM under "Nutrients" - thank you very much LOL!

[unkempt blade]

I just use a standard of 1 engine and 4 cars and increase the number of trains because I like to see more trains zooming around

[white dawn]

On a perfectly flat track, you can technically get by with just a single engine if you don't mind the slow accelerations. :P

[lean ferry]

That’s what I did but my efficient ass got like 15 in 20 mins

[trim vine]

Dont forget about the slugs, sphere, and sloops too 😛

[lean ferry]

I got 14 sloops and 12 spheres and around 8 purple slugs and 10 blue

[unkempt blade]

yeah any time you've got stuff automated and need to wait for more materials it's pretty fast to polish off a region

[lean ferry]

Dw I got 14 sloops and that was only the swamp

[trim vine]

FICSIT wants more 😛

[lean ferry]

I know 😔

Anyways I’m outside now (15 minute pioneer benefit) and I’ll do that when I’m back

[last tartan]

Do oil deposits work similarly to that of a mineral deposit

Only one extractor

[naive palm]

aye

though there tends to be 3 or 4 oil patches near one another in my experience.

[last tartan]

There is one 200m east of this one

[ruby mountain]

ah glad its resolved ;)

[last tartan]

this is the weirdest pumpjack ive ever seen, enat

neat*

any1 else notice the only vehicle with functioning headlights is the Truck?

everything else doesnt have illuminating bulbs

[bright helm]

Oh hell nah, the closest oil node to me is 2km away

How am I supposed to transport this?

[naive palm]

[bright helm]

Sadly I dont have trains

[naive palm]

🚜

[bright helm]

oh wait a minute. I can unlock trains. I thought I needed plastic for trains

or silicon

[last tartan]

You and I both bro, I better be getting some of that

[naive palm]

Yeah. If you're a bum like me you can also just set up power towers and zipline over when you need rubber 'n plastics (and to carry back power)

Plus if you have a dimensional depot you can start stuffing those full of rubber and plastic.

[last tartan]

I ran 30 of those along the west coast 😭

[main topaz]

The other trick is a very long pipeline. Which is a trick done in real life.

[last tartan]

ugly 🥱

I feel like pipes are hard to make look nice

[naive palm]

Pipes take a different skillset and approach from foundations, but I have to dispense with the myth that they are hard to make look nice. Especially now that we have

+ omni-directional-nudging +

Some of the curved pipes I've laid down since 1.0 are absolutely chef's kiss

[bright helm]

I really like how ai driven vehicles get teleported to checkpoints they missed

Farming Simulator should learn from Satisfactory

[main topaz]

I do like how pipelines look but I'm also a civil engineer.

[naive palm]

Satisfactory vehicle AI rivals only space engineers drone AI when it comes to quality pathfinding and obstacle avoidance.

[torpid siren]

#streams-and-videos message how to fix this Fps drops?

[naive palm]

That's sick, though I'm sure you'd find some of my factories floating on 1m foundations a km in the air structurally questionable.

[last tartan]

Farming sim AI is a NIGHTMARE 😫

[naive palm]

I would stay out of that area to avoid fps drops.

[bright helm]

My workers always were crashing into trees while cutting grass

[torpid siren]

its my storage

[last tartan]

Oh they’re especially bad with grass

[naive palm]

what's the ficsit approved way to tell someone they're cooked

[last tartan]

I can barely get them to harvest a base game crop

[last tartan]

“FicSit looks down upon your lack of efficiency”

[bright helm]

Guys is Valve useful in Satisfactory?

My imaginiation is limited I think

[main topaz]

I stopped thinking about it. But I do try to design everything around having to be supported. The only floating stuff I have is whatever im currently working on.

[naive palm]

Is there more stuff under the foundations we can't see? It does seem unusual the game would lag with a few containers stacked on one another.

[last tartan]

I’ve gathered over 200 motors from scavenging wrecks

gosh I love Satisfactory

[rain bramble]

alright, I spent a few hours fiddling with my oil byproduct pipelines. Why is it that when it looks good, it doesn't work, but now that it looks like a clipping spaghetti, it just works perfectly

[naive palm]

one crash needs computers and has motors
another crash needs motors but has computers
Me: "Am I an exploration genius??"

[last tartan]

I love opening wrecks that have the required material right next to them, worked for me with aluminum plates and rotor

[naive palm]

Yeah same. Outside of belting and piping I don't make anything look good single player - but multiplayer I will at least spend a pittance of time to put up beams and walls and such.

this week I'm trying to make foundations curve and.. it's been rough. I can't quite crack the code to seemless, gapless, perfectly matched curved foundations.

[wicked nacelle]

it's all about the beams

[naive palm]

Yeah I've been following the arch guide
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3346733784
I think I'm putting the foundations in backwards though so the arch spirals out. It's a cool effect I'll use for something else, but I haven't quite gotten dialing curves the way I want them 100%.

[bright helm]

What enemies can I encounter in Lake Forest?

Is it safe?

[green fiber]

nowhere is safe

[bright helm]

I saw it has crude oil

[main topaz]

I place all my belts and pipes along foundations, it helps keep everything on the same alignment. it takes longer to do, but I'm in no rush.

[torpid siren]

yes

[naive palm]

💯 . When I say 'look good' I mean having beams and walls and supports in places that make sense.

Having foundations locked to the world grid may technically be an aesthetic choice, but in my heart it is a critical design choice that all my factories maintain. They may be improbably located, but all belting and piping is logically placed.

[torpid siren]

100s of belts

[naive palm]

I remember the devs playing with different belt rendering approaches. I wonder if there's a way to tweak the quality of belt rendering to give you some frames back.

[green fiber]

you can set the belt fps in the menu

[bright helm]

How many portable miners can I place on occupied node?

[grizzled basin]

and the belt render distance

[green fiber]

as many as you can fit

[naive palm]

automated miners cower in fear at the raw unmitigated power of 100 silly boys on a node.

[bright helm]

I need 2400 coal and 2400 iron so It would be nice if I fit atleast 8 of them

[naive palm]

you can deffo fit 8

[grizzled basin]

#screenshots message

7

[naive palm]

I think the 'convenience of being able to click them' is the only practical limiting factor, and that's a soft requirement.

[prime jasper]

It there any way to build your conveyor around a sink in a way were items only go to the sink if the storage is full?

[naive palm]

🥹 Magnificent

[visual pulsar]

How well does this game run on the deck?

[naive palm]

.

Input -> Smart splitter -> overflow/sink
               v
               v
            storage

[fallen storm]

First option Smart spliter, second option wait till storage gets full and then link some t1 conveyor

[bright helm]

If anyone wonders u can probably fit around 30 portable miners on node occupied by a machine

I placed only 24 bc i dont need more coal

[wicked nacelle]

You can get VERY close if you repeatedly split a line and merge 2 of them back to the container then on the 3rd one, split it 3 ways and merge 2 back to the container -- over and over again and you'll eventually get to the point where nearly 0 will go to sink unless storage is full

[prime jasper]

Thanks i will look into the smart splitter. I think I unlocked it but never looked into its details yet.😅

[wicked nacelle]

you'd get 1/3 sunk then 1/9 sunk then 1/27 sunk etc depending on how many times you do this

but yes, smart splitter is WAAAAY better

[prime jasper]

Yeah i thought about that too but since it seems there is another way that is more compact and less tedious i will go for the smart splitter

[naive palm]

smart splitter is so nice for lines that absolutely cannot back up (e.g. fuel byproducts)

[wicked nacelle]

though at some point you can be quite confident that a handful of rubber won't be backing up your system 🙂

[pearl summit]

Is it a bug where I always have steel beams uploading? I always remove them from the upload, but they somehow place themselves back there 🙂

[naive palm]

haha yeah. That resource goes from 'how do I deal with all of this' to having entire fields dedicated to rubber real fast.

[shadow spade]

Do you have a steel line being fed into one somewhere?

[fathom shuttle]

Finally got some free time

I’m gonna start up the plutonium reactors

Set up the waste storage earlier
A massive storage cluster in the corner of the map

[visual pulsar]

How well does this run on the steam deck?

[fathom shuttle]

In the dune deeert

[fathom shuttle]

It definitely depends on your play style

[smoky forge]

excuse me?

[fathom shuttle]

If you build big factories then it’s gonna be pretty rough on the deck

[wicked nacelle]

it definitely runs out of CPU eventually. The frames get bad because of that not because of the graphics

[smoky forge]

lmao u rly wna do it like that?

[last tartan]

guy

[smoky forge]

what if it gets backed up? u gona trash it manualy ?

[fathom shuttle]

Yea idc enough about ficsonium

[last tartan]

i just lost my 80 day no accident streak

[pearl summit]

I have at least one of every resource I use a lot being uploaded. But I only have the issue with steel beams

[fathom shuttle]

It will back up after 800 hours

[smoky forge]

thats not rly a big time

[wicked nacelle]

can you describe the problem one more time? it's uploading to DD when you don't think you have a DD uploading them?

[smoky forge]

u will get there eventualy

[fathom shuttle]

I can do a full uranium-ficsonium pipeline in like 200 hours

And I’m definitely not going to be playing this game for more than 800 hours lol

[visual pulsar]

So if I build small factories throughout the whole game, could it run well?

[fathom shuttle]

Yea it’s ok

[smoky forge]

weak

[wicked nacelle]

no, it has to simulate the whole world no matter where you are. It's a CPU issue not a GPU issue

though smaller factories help some in terms of alleviating sending graphics commands to the GPU

[naive palm]

your idea of what constitutes a large factory, I've learned, may be very different from some of the madmen (and madladies) here.

[pearl summit]

Every now and again when I open up my inventory, there are steel beams being uploaded, even though I never placed them there. I have a DD for every resource I use the most. Concrete, cables and whatnot, but steel beams keep poping up in the upload, never anything else

[visual pulsar]

Maybe I should wait for a ps5 release then…..

[wicked nacelle]

oh in your personal inventory dimensional storage uploader?

[naive palm]

I beat the game in beta with factories and power production fractionally smaller than some of the builds I've seen suggested in this channel 😂

[pearl summit]

Personal inventory uploader

[wicked nacelle]

super weird, I've never seen or heard of anything like that.

[prime jasper]

yep that is exactly why i came here to ask about sink lol

[stray loom]

"Oh I just setup some small factory making those, was no big deal" posts picture of a giant 300m tall skyscraper

[prime jasper]

Just went from 1,8 GW production to 6.8 GW due to building a petrol plant.

[pearl summit]

Not bothered by it (yet). But thought it was worth asking to see if anyone knew about it

[naive palm]

yeah liquid fuel is sweet. I like nuclear as a flex, but liquid can (or at least could in beta) take you straight through the endgame.

[wicked nacelle]

with the insane numbers they gave rocket fuel, it can easily do it -- it's weird how they make some things hard and then some things braindead easy

[naive palm]

holy - 3.6 GJ for a unit of rocket fuel.

[stray loom]

You don't even have to go to rocket fuel as long as your factory is efficient and you're ok with lower production rates because with HOR and diluted fuel you can get 20GW of power from a single 600 oil node

[wicked nacelle]

I'd at least go turbofuel. That's a lot of oil for not a lot of power

[fathom shuttle]

Ok boys

[wicked nacelle]

the only part of rocket fuel that makes sense is that eventually you get nitrogen constrained so it's actually a significant tradeoff. but that's pretty far in before you run out of nitrogen

[fathom shuttle]

It’s time for the plutonium reactors to turn on fr fr

[fluid sapphire]

you could say that about almost any somewhat limited resource, if you take it to the absolute extreme, of course you may generate a shortage for other projects

[fathom shuttle]

Almost made a deadly mistake
connecting the fuel belt to the waste belt is not gonna be fun to clean up

[fluid sapphire]

that said you can make 4800 nitro rocket and still have 9600 nitrogen left over

[wicked nacelle]

the only two things that I've been frustrated by a lack of are nitrogen and bauxite. everything else feels pretty plentiful

and I'd take more nitrogen if I had to pick only one

[fathom shuttle]

Bauxite can be silicized tho

16400/min is more than you’d ever realistically need imo

But the nitrogen I definitely agree with that

[wicked nacelle]

how do you get the extra 2000 bauxite?

[fathom shuttle]

I’m probably using 5k and right now and you can def run out very quickly

[fathom shuttle]

With pure aluminum it’s 12,300
With the default it’s 16400

Though it uses 8.7k quartz

[wicked nacelle]

you run out of quartz - yeah I am using all the quartz already

[fathom shuttle]

That’s 75% of all quartz

Are you using oil diamonds?

[wicked nacelle]

yes, I'm using all the oil

and of course the way to get more quartz is.... throw nitrogen at it 😕

[fathom shuttle]

Mainly using pink diamonds then?

[wicked nacelle]

pink diamonds. turbo diamonds. cloudy diamonds where I can't do the others

[fathom shuttle]

How many are you making lol

[wicked nacelle]

I'm actually overproducing dark crystals now. I could slow down and reclaim some production but I'm not exactly sure where

I'm probably making 3000 dark crystals/m? 1600 alone just feed directly into BWD but they get eaten at a lot of steps

[fathom shuttle]

Maybe do quartz purification tree, it’s more efficient at making both silica and crystals

[wicked nacelle]

nitrogen

[fathom shuttle]

Ohhhh right 😂

It sucks that they threw nitrogen in there

Way too much to scale up

[wicked nacelle]

if it were sulfur I'd probably be doing it

[fathom shuttle]

Anyway I’m connecting the belt now

Oh fuck

I connected it to the waste belt

[fathom shuttle]

No way I just said ts too

It’s on now

Over 20 hours of work all come down to this

400GW

[naive palm]

400GW and that sweet blue glow

[prisma yoke]

ive heard that for fluid input manifolds to operate at the maximum flow rate they need a loop from the end back to the start because of something to do with sloshing. is this accurate/still the case

[last tartan]

what the heck is this B-374 helmet all about

[fathom shuttle]

Omg all of them are working

518GW online lets gooo

[last tartan]

i found it in it's cave yesterday

[fathom shuttle]

So much steam

[fathom shuttle]

The blue glow clips into foundations as well I’ve noticed this

It’s pretty cool from underneath

[naive palm]

have to edit your pfp to have a third eyeball. ☢️

[naive palm]

Interesting, I've never heard of this. I tend to prime my input manifolds and machines before running them so I don't know if that affects anything.

[fluid sapphire]

i dont have facts, but i do build most of my systems that way, for shorter pipes i dont always do it (my setups tend to be double sided on the input end so i just connect at the end)

what i can say is that i havent had a single flow issue

[prisma yoke]

i read it from a guide on pipes linked at the bottom of the wiki page for pipelines, but i cant post the link here

[green fiber]

for any manifold:
dont use mk 2 pipes if you dont need the extra flow rate

just use mk 1 for everything up to 300/min

mk 2 offers no benefit below 300/min and actively just makes stuff worse if used

[fluid sapphire]

i use it all the time for low flow rates, but i dont do unlooped manifolds with it really

[green fiber]

dont need to loop manifolds if you dont use mk 2 pipes where they absolutely dont belong

[fluid sapphire]

well for me its easy with the way i build

[naive palm]

That sort of lines up with my experience. I've never looked into looping pipes because I've never needed to.

[green fiber]

player specific stuff is player specific

universal adivce is tho: dont use mk 2 unless actually needed

if you know how to use em, dont let me tell you what to do

[gritty spire]

my whole factory is crowded and my brain hurts. should i completely wipe it and start over

[wicked nacelle]

don't wipe it -- it still does what it does. just move somewhere else and build more\

[green fiber]

make a plan to make it better next time or it will just turn into a crowded headache again

[fluid sapphire]

doesnt cover any nuance but i suppose its fair enough as a rule of thumb

[green fiber]

whatever nuance there is is to be discussed on case by case basis

generally though, this advice tends to hold

[fathom shuttle]

Found a problem with one of the reactors

[wicked nacelle]

worse case just throw everything it does into smart plates. You won't regret it

[fathom shuttle]

Turns out it was an extractor I didn’t connect lol

[naive palm]

many such cases xD

[stray loom]

Put a giant foundation slab on top of it and start building a new factory. Keep doing this and you'll have some factory lasagna where the deepest levels are some ancient arcane witchcraft you don't talk about

[fathom shuttle]

Damn so during the entire project the only mistakes I made from a production POV was 1 extractor I didn’t connect and a pump that I didn’t connect to power

Ngl I’m kind of proud of myself for that

[naive palm]

This happens early game. I only rebuild a part of my factory when a vastly better recipe is unlocked.

If the factory is poor aethetically and you've replicated production elsewhere: delete it
If the factory is poor aesthetically but creates valuable output: keep it

[fathom shuttle]

Now I have a very smooth 519GW

[naive palm]

It's fun finishing a beautiful, well built satellite factory where everything is spaced out perfectly and the belting and piping would make snutt cry - then coming back to the hub where your disaster of spaghetti pumping out reinforced plates still lives.

[fluid sapphire]

thats trauma i dont want in my life heheh

[bright helm]

Ok I unlocked trains and I hope they wont cost any steel beams. Atleast not too many

[fathom shuttle]

Anyone need power? #screenshots message

[prisma yoke]

holy

[wicked nacelle]

not with unprocessed waste, no

[green fiber]

[prisma yoke]

yes please. can you like email me some

[bright helm]

Rails will suck all my steel beams I swear

[green fiber]

definitely

[bright helm]

I wont have anything left

[naive palm]

🥹 It's so beautiful. Silos go brrrrr

[fathom shuttle]

xD I can do ficsonium but ill need to sacrifice my BWD for that

[humble osprey]

How much fixonium y'all makin

[fathom shuttle]

Tbh I don’t have any use for sinking BWD now since I already have all the coupons I need

[tall plover]

Is there any way to copy stuff youve already build and is bigger than the blueprint box thingie?

[wicked nacelle]

see, that's what I have a container farm for. storing deez nutz

actually I take 20 with me when I go out and I sprinkle them throughout the world

[naive palm]

You can make modular factories yeah. Recipes that easily slot into one another or pair up for levels of production lines.

[tall plover]

thats not what i meant

for bigger parts of train stuff, like unloading bay etc

[naive palm]

I think 5x5x5 is the biggest blueprint buildable in the game right now. If it doesn't fit in that space, you'll have to modular-ize it.

[bright helm]

Ok so now I have to find that oil crude 2km away from me

[fathom shuttle]

1488 coupons + 227 in my inventory = all statues

[fathom shuttle]

It’s 6x6x6

[naive palm]

ah that's my b

[fathom shuttle]

Each coupons costs around 108m now

Probably means I’m at 2100 coupons farmed

[last tartan]

#screenshots message goated spot for coal plant? atleast 4 coal deposits behind it

[wicked nacelle]

you really don't need that much coal power to get to oil, so pretty much any spot will do especially when you get mk2 miner and some better belts you can just upgrade the spot you make your first one

[fathom shuttle]

Yea definitely

I built my second coal plant there

[rain bramble]

to split a bunch of iron into 11 foundries, are manifolds or basic splits better?

[bright helm]

Is there any way to copy all floor's names and icons and paste them to my new elevator?

Bc I am adding a new floor

[stray loom]

That's the Coal Hole™

[fathom shuttle]

Dismantled it and it’s my turbo motors factory now

[last tartan]

im running TONS of factories off of 2 batteries and 4 coal generators, i really need a bigger power generator

[fathom shuttle]

I think I was making 2100MW through that factory or something

[wicked nacelle]

yes, definitely more than 4. but you don't need a lot of coal to run like 16 of them

[fathom shuttle]

Good times

[fathom shuttle]

Manifold everyday any day

[rain bramble]

aight, big thanks

[wicked nacelle]

there are no downsides to manifolds once they reach equilibrium and you don't have to sit around and wait for that to happen

[rain bramble]

yeah right

[wicked nacelle]

so "should I manifold or...." the answer is always manifold unless you want to do it a different reason for funsies

[rain bramble]

I am now a manifold enjoyer

[naive palm]

Though I don't usually do so, you can prime manifolds the same way you prime pipes: just let the machines fill up the lines before you turn the final production step on. Then your factory starts at 100% and stays at 100% (unless you missed a belt somewhere)

😔 split lines do look cool though. Curse their space-inefficiency.

[rain bramble]

that's what I was gonna say, it's mostly about aesthetic at the end of the day haha

[stray loom]

Off top of my head the only time I've felt it worthwhile to setup a balanced input instead of a manifold is an early game biomass power setup where balanced inputs means you get full constant power from the start instead of a variably ramping power until they all get saturated

[naive palm]

old man on the porch. "Back in my day we loaded biomass gens by hand! in the freezing cold! uphill both ways!"

[wicked nacelle]

I would just manually fill the line -- it's easy to have a surplus to just put a stack in each to start and then manifold 🙂

[unkempt blade]

used to be worth it for nuclear stuff but now with multiple equipment slots and how cheap filters are I don't think it's worth the hassle anymore

[stray loom]

Nah. Back in my day we hand crafted our way to coal power before we did anything else 👴

[naive palm]

yeah slinging a few ingots and bits and bobs into the machines as you build is a good way to clean your inventory. The groaning noise your factory makes when you start it is that first batch of dust and pocket lint getting processed.

[fathom shuttle]

Or turn off the first couple machines

[naive palm]

I'll never forget my first factory. Zero foundations, machines running in every direction at every angle, a small army of biomass burners that I had to constantly fill because I didn't know coal was right around the corner. Good times.

[rain bramble]

I'm living the dream right now

[unkempt blade]

just following the flow of the terrain the way nature intended

[naive palm]

haha, it was exactly like that. Factories flowing down the hill of the grassy plains.

[unkempt blade]

straight conveyor lines be damned!

[naive palm]

I'm glad we didn't have soft clipping back then or it would have looked even worse. At least the machines had some space between them.

[trim vine]

(._. )

[bright helm]

#screenshots message What does Skovde mean?

[fluid sapphire]

city in sweden

[smoky forge]

just a random generated name

[bright helm]

It picks random swedish cities when u place it?

[smoky forge]

yep

[fluid sapphire]

not just swedish

there was also "Balti jaam", thats a train station in my country xd

[lost wagon]

I need to find a set of rail blueprints that looks good and not expensive as shit, otherwise my Depo upload can't catch up

I have one that looks cool and even has hypertube with it, but shit uses a billion quartz crystal every paste

[reef basin]

that's the city where CSS has offices 🙂

[bright helm]

I was about to ask if CSS is swedish

I know they released but not developed Valheim

And Valheim was made by also swedish studio Iron Gate studio or smth

[reef basin]

well, technically they didn't even release it

since that's "Coffee Stain Publishing", not "Coffee Stain Studios"

[formal prairie]

Is anyone else experiencing performance issues?
I, got good specs but I don't, break over 70 fps. I also got the graphics on medium/high

[bright helm]

Wait so isnt that the same studio?

[reef basin]

they are both under same parent company, but practically nobody from the team that worked on Satisfactory had anything to do with Valheim

[willow glen]

What does a publisher do if they don’t release games?

[bright helm]

#screenshots message How am I supposed to get down with that train?

Its 120m above the ground

[willow glen]

Build a spiral!

[reef basin]

well... they publish games 😄

[dreamy scroll]

Comedy achieved

[bright helm]

Okay let me cook. I will show the results

[reef basin]

I'm not sure I understand what you're asking tho 🤔

[white dawn]

#announcements message is a good watch re: the corporate structure of CSS and their relationship to other devs (like the folks who did Valheim, etc)

[willow glen]

Your response to “they released but not developed” was that they also didn’t release it, so I’m asking what Coffee Stain Publishing does

[stray loom]

3 options:

1. Build a spiral rail down
2. Have an unload station at the top and use conveyor lifts to bring items up/down to a station at the bottom
3. Find another path for the rail that doesn't put it so far above the ground

[white dawn]

See the announcement video I just linked to, btw. :)

(It's from quite awhile ago, not something new, but the info should still be mostly accurate)

[naive palm]

• Normal answer: build a gentle curve down to your factory using pillars and existing terrain
• Doggo answer: Build a physically impossible but impressive corkscrew until you're level with your factory
• Ficsit answer: Punch a hole in the terrain and build under the mountain

[reef basin]

CSP publishes games (Valheim, etc.)
CSS develops games (Satisfactory, Goat sim, etc.)

not sure if SF and others were published by CSS or CSP, but I guess at that point it doesn't matter much. The linked video may have answer for that

[bright helm]

Can you tame a lizarddog?

[white dawn]

Yep, using ||paleberries. Drop 'em on the floor, and don't move too fast (unequipping blade runners can help with that. Once tamed, doggos don't care about how fast you move, though)||

[pure condor]

are motors important later on im at tier 5

[fluid sapphire]

yes, always

[pure condor]

like how much

[white dawn]

Basically everything you make has a use later on, except for the very "last" stuff in the game

[pure condor]

should I build I giant thing for it

[fluid sapphire]

you need a fair bit of motors to build many types of machines

[white dawn]

I'd recommend just building more motors onsite whenever a new factory needs them

[grizzled basin]

#screenshots message

[white dawn]

Trying to centralize part production (or trying to overbuild for the future) is, IMO, rarely worth it

[bright helm]

I MUST ask for that. Can you rerail the train?😈 😈

[bright helm]

OMG he looks so cute and high quality

[pure condor]

wdym by that? Like a central storage area?

[white dawn]

When you asked "should I build I giant thing for it," I assumed you'd meant that you wanted to build a big factory which makes a ton of motors, and then you could use those motors in other factories as other things need motors. Personally I don't recommend doing that -- that's "centralizing" motor production.

[fluid sapphire]

like having a giant motor factory that feeds all your future motor needs

[white dawn]

IMO that's nearly always more trouble than it's worth, even though it might seem like the obvious solution to many folks. I prefer to just make new motors whenever a new factory needs 'em, right onsite in the new factory

So I make as many motors as I need right now, and that goes to my own personal build-gun-use storage. But then any new motors built later on are just inside new factories which need 'em

[bright helm]

hell nah I must wait 50 seconds cooldown

I havent sent an image

So basically I rerailed train

[white dawn]

(All that said, of course: it's your factory/factories, so build 'em however you like. If you want to centralize motor production, don't let my advice stop you. :)

[shrewd lagoon]

do you need to provide fuel to every drone port?

[fluid sapphire]

no, just one of the two ports that your drone flies between

[reef grotto]

do yall who builds factories build then automate, or automate and build as you go

[fluid sapphire]

build with the end goal of automating?'

[timid tangle]

Which alt recipe is better, copper rotor or stitched iron plate?

[pure condor]

when do I need steel pipes because I have a container full of them

[fluid sapphire]

i dont get the question, automation is a result of building

thats what you are building

[fluid sapphire]

big fan of the stitched plate myself

[shrewd lagoon]

I use stitched plates a lot more, especially in combination with iron wire

[reef grotto]

I mean like how Kibitz builds, where he makes the building then fills it out, or do you build your factory, and have the building built during/after

[south sinew]

pretty much right away for nobelisks and DD, and there's a few other good users like encased industrial beam

[timid tangle]

okie dokie thanks yall

[pure condor]

I dont have those yet thats why

I see

[fluid sapphire]

my decoration phase is after machines are built, i dont want to guess how much room i need

but i dont really build in an impressive style, i lay the skeleton of the building as i am putting the machines down

then later just fill out the missing stuff

[stray loom]

It can be fun to try and do it the other way around some times. Build a building that looks cool and then try to figure out where and how to fit everything in

[fluid sapphire]

for sure

[shrewd lagoon]

is there any way to tilt conveyor poles? like so that the belt goes parallel to a ramp

[fluid sapphire]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/3xfkCAqhV6Q

[red sun]

not that i know of, but some nutjob has probably figured out how by now

you can have the conveyors run parallel, but the poles themselves are always dead vertical

[fluid sapphire]

technique in the video should still work

[shrewd lagoon]

yeah, ty lol

[wicked nacelle]

same idea works with making any-length lifts

[pure condor]

is mk4 conveyers easy

I dont have them yet

[fluid sapphire]

its a very small step from mk3 (in terms of material complexity)

[frail sleet]

they're harder than mk3 and 5 to automate in high quantities, but not bad.

[pure condor]

is 5 easy?

[frail sleet]

5 takes a small amount of aluminum which you need to set up anyway, then it can give you hundreds per min.

[noble topaz]

how do i kill the bug pods? ive wasted like 30 nobelisks killing one of them

[frail sleet]

sword / rifle

[shrewd lagoon]

you can sneak up on them by holding crouch, won't open even if they take damage

[noble topaz]

and if i dont have either?

[fluid sapphire]

they are quite resistant to explosives

[frail sleet]

get them before fighting elite mobs, blade runner and sword are P1 / early P2 items. Rifle early P3.

[fluid sapphire]

back to work

[main topaz]

Mk. 5 belts themselves are easy but if you haven't done aluminum before, it might seem pretty complex to get to making the plates.

[hollow vector]

has cloud glare on vulkan been fixed?

[hollow vector]

nobelisks are more weak for them and rifles are op for them

[bright helm]

tier 5 and 6 are the best

I like trains

Satisfactory made them really fun

And of course u can AUTOMATE them. (Like if it wasnt the main goal)

50 hours already🥹

[main topaz]

My only complaint with trains is that they don't dynamically reroute, so we can't make bypasses on bidirectional rail or a waiting stack before a station.

But, I do like that its different from other factory games.

[bright helm]

Satisfactory is the best factory/automation game imo. I havent played many games from that type but still it may be the best

I have to try Factorio

Greedtorio

[stray loom]

You can sort of make a waiting queue if you have the station on a branch facing the main line and have trains enter from a loop on the far side

[bright helm]

Cracktorio etc.

[stray loom]

Still a single track of course

There is a mod for dynamic train pathfinding if you aren't opposed to using them

[wicked nacelle]

you can make a waiting stack before a station... it's just called the rail before the station

[shrewd lagoon]

oh my god wait nuclear pasta is so easy, I was so scared it'd be terrible after figuring out the rockets

[wicked nacelle]

and dynamic reroutes can cause all sorts of weird problems because then traffic isn't predictable and they can make bad choices that cause deadlocks that you really can't control

[vagrant oar]

nuclear pasta is a power grid check more than anything

[stray loom]

The challenge with pasta isn't complexity but rather "I need how much copper?!?!"

[wicked nacelle]

for me it's a aluminum check. the copper is trivial as this game has very few uses for copper

[vagrant oar]

you can easily just hand craft the copper powder and then shove it into an accelerator tbh

[main topaz]

Tall stack of rails good, long stack of rail bad. Factorio has spoiled me with trains.

[bright helm]

Goodnight everyo-😴 😴

[wicked nacelle]

ewwww?

[vagrant oar]

actually I don't remember what we did for nuclear pasta

I just know we made exactly enough for phase 3 lmao

[wicked nacelle]

copper powder is a great candidate for droning due to its slow production and 500 stack size. so you can just find a spot with a bunch of copper and throw up a copper powder factory there

[vagrant oar]

or phase 4? honestly idk the phases in this game I haven't played in forever

[wicked nacelle]

there's a spot sort of out by the swamp with 3 pure nodes and water. every game I end up taking that for powder

pure node makes 250 powder/m I think?

[stray loom]

🤔 Not something I'd ever considered a drone for but it makes sense

[vagrant oar]

that reminds me we still need to fix our aluminium production, it keeps dying every now and then because our drones are just unreliable (due to fuel supply also being a drone, lol)

[wicked nacelle]

I use a drone to supply rocket fuel basically everywhere and never have any issues

[vagrant oar]

it works just enough™ to only have to shove a bit of fuel into it every like, 50h

[wicked nacelle]

you just have to make sure the packaged rocket fuel factory never dries up -- because fuel getters without fuel aren't getting any fuel

[pure condor]

I just deleted a container with a lot of stuff in it and it al dissapeared

where could it be

[wicked nacelle]

did it make/fill a nearby dismantle crate? they changed how those work so they don't spam everywhere

[pure condor]

I have a dismantle crate like 500m away would that fill it

[wicked nacelle]

I don't know the new rules

[mortal ginkgo]

yes, its currently a bug

[pure condor]

bro😔

[wicked nacelle]

I actually appreicate it... I wish there were an option to "just throw away the mats when I disassemble" (except for sloop/sphere)

[junior flower]

how does the priority of electricity work? will fuel power prioritice before coal power?

[wicked nacelle]

no, once you go over the whole grid turns off

[pure condor]

the dismantle crate has infinite storage???

there is so much stuff in oh my days

[junior flower]

i mean when you have alot more than needed. which generators will have priority?

[stray loom]

How far away will it fill? Curious if you could cheese it by forcing one to spawn by your hub or mass storage location and just going on a dismantling spree

[wicked nacelle]

everything except bioburners always run at full speed and excess power is just thrown away - if you build "power storage" then it will store some amount of excess power from non-bioburners to be used later if you go under so your grid doesn't pop

[junior flower]

ok thanks

[mortal ginkgo]

its a bug so I sometimes saw that even my 1.2 km away crate was filled but then sometimes it worked as usual. Its not reliable

[pure condor]

why does my container let so much stuff out of the bottom belt but nothing from the top on e

[shy fog]

if feed in = feed out then nothing goes to secondary out

thus stockpiles are important

[lean ferry]

can sm1 help pls

basically im making a recycled plastic refinery to supply the plastic needed for supercomputer. its all done, and worked but after checking back after an hour I find no plastic being made, due to lack of rubber, no rubber being made because of full heavy oil residue, and heavy oil residue is full because fuel is full across the recycled refineries. I thought it was cuz it takes longer for rubber to buffer than fuel, so im putting rubber in manually but idk if it wil work that way

[frail sleet]

Are you putting the rubber back into plastic and only extracting via overflow smart splitters?

A recycler loop is stable with a constant overflow generation, but if you extract too high of a rate from it you will kill it. Recyclers must be prioritised over output so that stuff only goes to output if all of the recyclers are full.

[lean ferry]

How do I do that

Smart splitters? And set to overflow? I have a merger line for my output

[frail sleet]

smart splitter, loop the main path (labeled "Any").

For a side path to output excess rubber/plastic, set it to "Overflow".

that way rubber/plastic will only go down that belt when all of the recyclers are full and it's backed up

It can be done without a smart splitter, but that's much more complicated for no good reason

[finite sorrel]

anyone have a blueprint of biomass power plan?

[lean ferry]

So where do I do that for the rubber making recycled plastic? Or the recyclers making plastic themselves? And is there a guide or screenshot to better help me

[frail sleet]

Residual Rubber and Recycled Rubber go to Recycled Plastic with an overflow belt going to output.

Recycled Plastic goes to Recycled Rubber, with an overflow belt going to output.

[lean ferry]

No it’s not a chain

It’s just rubber made normally by refineries that’s being made into recycled plastic and that’s it

Should I still do it? You have a point tho

[frail sleet]

Uhh, yes i think. If what you said is accurate, you're doing something less efficient and unusual.

[lean ferry]

I mean it’s more power efficient

[frail sleet]

Recycled Plastic needs Rubber to feed it, and you get that rubber by using Recycled Rubber

[lean ferry]

If I was looping recycled rubber into plastic into rubber into plastic

[frail sleet]

you can make rubber without it, but that costs like 3x as much oil

[lean ferry]

Oh and I forgot to mention this sorry I didn’t have the recycled rubber before it

I just got it recently, should I redo the whole chain? Or just pre buffer the recycled plastic

[wicked nacelle]

I make two lines of 16 refineries one for plastic one for rubber. First eight feed the other side with splitter to profit. Next 8 are pure profit. You don’t have to fully fuel it and it will adjust to demand as it shifts as you play

[frail sleet]

You might wanna re-do it for efficiency

You have some fixable problem now, i'm not quite sure what it is though and dont have time to diagnose atm. If you post pics / save file in a questions and help thread then someone might be able to help

[lean ferry]

Ok, is it ok if I do it tommorow? I don’t have access to my pc and it’s currently midnight

But what I am understanding from you right now is to get a merger line of all my rubber, put a smart splitter and set one to any one to overflow, the any goes back to the merger line and the overflow goes to the recycled plastic

[frail sleet]

Yeah. That way the Recycler machines will take as much as they need to continue running, while everything that they don't need will go down the output

[gaunt gyro]

TIL that when you do one rotation with control on a foundation, it's 4 degrees, not 5.

[frail sleet]

It's 5

It's impossible to make a perfect 90 or 180 degree curve with 4 degree steps, and i've done both multiple times

via 18x5 or 36x5

[gaunt gyro]

It's definitely 4. I made a full circle and it was exactly 90 foundations

[unkempt blade]

my skyroads just do a 45 degree angle with triangle foundations when I need to turn

rounded is too much work and clipping

[frail sleet]

4 or 5 can make 360, but 4 cannot make 90 or 180 degree turns. You can make them with the default controls and they are perfect

[wicked nacelle]

I don’t fully understand what you said but the priority is feeding the other side of recycled production. What is leftover is your profit

And always merge the resin rubber back into the recycled plastic I put line

[gaunt gyro]

Idk what to tell you, a full 360 circle I just made using this method was exactly 90 foundations around. 360/90 is 4, unless there's something I'm missing (which is certainly possible)

[frail sleet]

Yeah i'm not sure why that could happen, but do try to make a 90 degree turn. They're really easy to see if they're perfect or not because they join up to the same foundation chain without angle or overlap.

If the adjustment were 4 degrees, it would be literally impossible (90/4 = 22.5, non integer)

but i've done it multiple times (albeit in 1.0, not 1.1)

[gaunt gyro]

Yeah I've done the same. Which is why this confused me when I first did it

[naive palm]

I'm fascinated. I've always ignored the recycled rubber/plastic recipes because it doesn't make sense to me to spend fuel and resources just to convert between the two.

Do they have a practical use over just tooling an oil well to produce the desired resource?

[frail sleet]

They're by far the highest rate recipies for converting oil into plastic and/or rubber

You make HOR > diluted fuel with the oil, and use those recipies to convert 1 fuel into 1 plastic or 1 rubber.

600 oil yields 1800 fuel, and therefore 1800 rubber/plastic.

[unkempt blade]

recycled rubber/plastic + heavy oil reside + diluted fuel is both really good and a really fun build imo

[wicked nacelle]

Yeah you profit the amount of fuel you put in

[frail sleet]

Without recycled recipies, the cost is 1662 oil rather than 600 (although you do get some extra byproducts for your oil)

[naive palm]

So you spend a relatively small amount of fuel to double up your rubber or plastic. That's wild, and thank you for taking the time to explain it.

I've disrespected that recipe so long and it turns out to be great if you want bananas rubber or plastic.

[flint grail]

Mk, question for y'all

What one item in the game needs a more efficient recipe the most?

[hard ivy]

Ficsonium Rods

[unkempt blade]

biomass

[silent copper]

fr

[main topaz]

A Green house that outputs biomass would be fun, just need to feed it water.

[unkempt blade]

yeah liquid biofuel is fun sometimes and I want more of it without clearing as much stuff near me

[steady glade]

clear the fauna

[unkempt blade]

I like using that for the dna capsules or inhalers after research is done

[naive palm]

It would be so cool to have fully 'green' power gen.
-# yes I know this goes against the theme of exploiting the planet

[unkempt blade]

they could even make biomass inefficient from a net power point of view and I'd love an automated source for it

[main topaz]

Is not exploitation to use the plants of the planet to Save The Day?

[naive palm]

It would be kind of a weird place needing piping to provide water

the two paths meme:
green energy with plants or burning coal

[main topaz]

I think I'd balance it by it taking up a lot of space and being inefficient but still a net energy gain if you go from biomass to biofuel.

[naive palm]

I like that. Space inefficient but energy neutral (for similar gens in its tier)

[wicked nacelle]

It’s called oil 🙂

[unkempt blade]

if they want to let me turn oil into liquid biofuel I'd take that too - or I've said I think the reverse of biocoal would be more fun than biocoal along the same lines 😆

[naive palm]

I want to use the quantum encoder to turn oil back into dinosaurs

legally distinct Ficsit Jurassic Park.

[burnt ferry]

check #screenshots mergers/splitters snap face side to conveyor floor holes

and then a lift will snap horizontally.. but for some reason the 'lower' part is missign 😂 also while building i couldnt extend the lift, it was ignoring moving the mouse sideways along the direction of the lift

[naive palm]

Alright. Night #4 of perfect curves in Satisfactory. Wish me luck my handsome/beautiful pioneer friends.

[late tartan]

Why haven’t they implemented something where radioactivity is blocked by the environment and buildings?

Maybe not blocked per say but lessened by them

[unkempt blade]

besides game design reasons it's probably just difficult or expensive in terms of compute power

[twilit escarp]

Is it possible to make a super compact hypertube acelerator?

[unkempt blade]

not sure how compact you're looking for but I do these every so often on my hypertube lines and they add up pretty fast #screenshots message

[naive palm]

for every radioactive source you would have to cast a ray from that to the player, then evaluate all materials inbetween.

I think for one radioactive source this would be trivial for the minds at coffee stain. For belts, containers, and machines containing radioactivity, this could become expensive.

[unkempt blade]

I have them incorporated into my skyroad BPs like this. You can see them all lined up in the actual finished road screenshot #screenshots message

[naive pendant]

@late tartan Technically neutron radiation in real life does pass straight through walls, etc. So the game not having radiation blocked is also accurate as well as the other reasons for it.

[twilit escarp]

more like this#screenshots message

[late tartan]

It doesn’t pass through everything. Neutrons are easier to block vs gamma radiation. I actually work in a nuclear plant so i know my stuff

[twilit escarp]

but i think i saw something more compact but i am not able to replicate

[unkempt blade]

I was reading this science journal with lots of really cool pictures and they said the trick is to use concrete walls with a gap between them and then you fill the gap with millions of spiders to soak up all the radiation

just don't let any college kids handle the spiders or it's a whole ordeal

[naive pendant]

Relative to most things, yes, neutrons pass right through common walls.

In any case, devs choose the game design and optimize for what they will.

[unkempt blade]

that many spiders would murder the CPU, they'd have to raise the minimum requirements

[fast cove]

Why I can’t claim 4m^3 fuel from the refinery?

[naive palm]

Radioactive stinger: Did you hear about the spider that escaped the bamboo forest?
Pioneer: No I didn't.
Radioactive stinger: That is because I am a quiet spider.
[Muffled sounds of stinger violence]

[prisma yoke]

unplugged all my factories to have enough power overhead to turn on my new turbofuel powerplant only to discover that i forgot the g⁠oddam⁠n compacted coal 😭
in other news, i have a new fuel powerplant!! and im going to go make a compacted coal factory now

[unkempt blade]

Yeah and next thing you know kids are swinging from skyscrapers and being lawless vigilantes. It's just not worth all the grief only to mitigate radiation

[burnt ferry]

how can i avoid th e ''straight' build mode to slightly rotate the finalpiece? or rather whats causing it so i can avoid that

[naive pendant]

Message devs “fix game pls”

[prisma yoke]

i really hope i have enough items in storage to make the compacted coal setup without having to run around plugging in my factories again lol

my power network is not pretty ngl

actually ill be fine. i literally cannot unplug my iron parts factory and theres plenty of backup concrete

my iron parts factory is like one big organism surrounding my hub and its powerline appendages supply everything else

[twilit escarp]

does anyone have a better design?

[warped cypress]

how does the alien power augmentor work?

its giving 500 mw static boost and 10% circut boost is that good?

10% is 530 mw btw

[ruby mountain]

It can go up to 30%, but requires lategame materials

[warped cypress]

ah alr

ty

[leaden ether]

And it's 10% of your entire power network so the boost amount will go up every time you add more power generation.

[wanton apex]

Is there a name for the Non-Ada entity? I love listening to them speak with Ada and their conversations are just really cute

[naive palm]

I call it the chorus of voices, but ficsit classifies it as a 'mental condition'

[wanton apex]

i don't remember where I heard this from, but I think I heard them called "Evo-Ada" once? not entirely sure

I just know that they're one of my favorite parts. I get the vibe that generally the game doesn't have much in terms of lore, but I legit enjoy their convos and the little story being told through their chats

[rustic otter]

hey is there any way to organize the DD in ur inventory?

[wanton apex]

I wonder if there's a video out there analyzing their conversations, I'd eat that up because EvoAda makes like 30% sense and it's just enough to make me curious about what the rest of it means. Like, they says windows and effigy and temples- windows are eyes, temples are bodies, and the effigy is an entire person, consciousness and all

[timid tangle]

I just watched a video saying that it’s good to put all your conveyors on a floor below or above your actual production buildings, is this actually a good practice?

[wanton apex]

I like to hide them below the actual production floor, because in doing so I can have all the splitters and mergers and associated conveyor mayhem out of view. The exception is when I have a line of crafters, in which case I don't mind having the manifold line above ground (I prefer manifold over load balancer, so it's probably more useful to have the crawl space with the latter) some folks also like to keep their cabling below as well

[timid tangle]

I see

[wanton apex]

I also like to bring all my storage to one place at the end, so having it under the main floor means I can just wire it straight into storage, and then tack on overflow protection, merge all the overflow, and send it to a sink

[timid tangle]

I think this means I’m rebuilding my factory again 🤑🤑🤑

(I’m not even really started phase 2)

[wanton apex]

that's just how it goes sometimes

oh well don't worry too much

[timid tangle]

It’s not like there’s a ton to rebuild

[wanton apex]

I'd say finish up to tier 4, and then prepare the finalized infrastructure for all the components you'll use in the future

[timid tangle]

I guess but I think I could make my factory more efficient than it currently is

My starting area has like 4 iron nodes that I can make a better use of

[wanton apex]

oh yeah definitely make all your miners tier 2

[timid tangle]

I don’t think I have them yet

I like just got to the second phase and rn I gotta switch to coal power asap lowkey

[wanton apex]

I spend a solid 12-16 hours making a factory to produce reinforced iron plates, modular frames, rotors, stators, and motors, and it's definitely worth it

[timid tangle]

Holy moly

Do you guys plan out the factory beforehand or just sort of go with the flow

I’m trying to not have spaghetti but it’s challenging sometimes

Ah

[wanton apex]

I kinda go with the flow? I called it my Advanced Iron Factory, and I built the thing in the order that the components needed to be assembled; so first I built the smelting room, then all the crafters for the reinforced plates, etc etc

[abstract heron]

just big one

my 1.0 world is at 10kmb

or something

yes i think i made way to much

No

[willow glen]

subfactories are how we prevent spaghetti, thats why they're so popular. megabases, unless planned out well, always spaghettify

[vapid whale]

nah factorio is the only big automation game that nails the base defense + automation combo really well

this game is very casual friendly

automation still is challenging, u have to think and puzzle things out

but in terms of combat its not there bro

or its barely there (as in, the exploration combat is really easy and is not the focus of the game at all)

dyson sphere is not finished yet tho, but im pretty sure itll become huge

[abstract heron]

do late game factorys bottleneck people's PC?

my pc NEW one just froze on me maxeek 3khr thing in it

[vapid whale]

i mean u do need a stronger pc than a game like factorio for example. if ur running a megabase

but u should just turn down ur graphics at this point

[abstract heron]

it is strong

i7k 80003d 32gb 5080ti GPU 2tb drive thingy

duh its my new one

its over 3khr world in it

i was doing cleaning

idk what i did wrong

my world is only 19,507kb

but i am tier 8

my steam id then in my save games folder

[warped cypress]

guys im depressed now

i tried to get rocket fuel

and i got the research

the container things

[dense violet]

?

[warped cypress]

and the recepe

but

[dense violet]

what container thing?

[warped cypress]

i need nitric acid 😭

empty fluid tank

[dense violet]

?

[warped cypress]

😭 why nitric aciddddddddddd

[dense violet]

rocket fuel is for chumps anyway. Pick something else

[warped cypress]

but my jetpack ;-;

[livid kernel]

idk if I'm overlooking something stupid, probably am, but for some reason only one of my turbofuel refinerys is actually flowing into the pipe on my subfloor. The other 7 are stopped and full with the pipes going into the floor holes being entirely full with no flow, and the pipes under the floor holes being almost completely empty with no flow

[warped cypress]

redo the pipes

[livid kernel]

I did, like 5 times

[dense violet]

you'll survive 😛

[warped cypress]

sometimes it doesnt register as connected

[dense violet]

there's also another rocket fuel recipe that only takes gasx

[warped cypress]

is there enough fluid being pumped in?

[warped cypress]

time to spam harddrive reaserch lol

[dense violet]

you're feeding pipes from below? that will probably be your issue

[livid kernel]

I haven't even built all the power plants I need to consume it all since they are stop starting

[leaden ether]

I 100% of the time feed pipes from below, it's not a problem unless you are over reaching the headlift of your pumps.

[livid kernel]

refinery on top, 4m subfloor underneath, 10m drop from subfloor to the power plants. Nothing should be going up on mine

[dense violet]

It's very very very commonly a huge issue for lots of people.

[dense violet]

you can try showing some overhead images of your set up in #math-and-meta

[leaden ether]

Never had a problem with it. I think most problems are just bad piping in general.

[dense violet]

that's nice. Just because you don't experience a thing doesn't mean it doesn't exist

[leaden ether]

Feding from above may actually hide bad piping somewhat, but it is not necessary in any sense

[livid kernel]

all the refineries are on top, only the power plants are down. the oil to heavy, and heavy to fuel refineries were working fine until this stoppage

and all the pipes are on the subfloor

[dense violet]

well without images it's generally impossible to solve pipe issues, and even if you do it takes a lot longer with lots of guess work. Let me know when you want to try to fix it

[prisma yoke]

my pipe manifolds are mysteriously maxxing out at 267 m^3/min instead of 300 m^3/min. guess ill try looping them

[frail sleet]

There are very few settings which impact CPU perf, and it's CPU perf which slows down.

[prisma yoke]

update i did something else that was similar but not quite the same thing but it worked

[hybrid sierra]

Help. My save file is starting to corrupt what do I do? Can someone tell me how to make a backup of my world?

[half scaffold]

Does the Hoverpack not work with the long wires from the power towers?

[dense violet]

what is it doing?

[dense violet]

it works off power sockets, not the cables.

[half scaffold]

Ahhh, that's disappointing

[dense violet]

that's what hyper tubes and zip lines are for. Much faster too

[half scaffold]

Can you use the big wires with the zip line?

[hybrid sierra]

Im glitches through terrain and when I logged off and logged back in the last save kept crashing my game so I had to lose 30 minutes minutes of work bc that's when the last save file that didn't crash was

[round fable]

U should use hoverpack for building mostly jetpack is better if u want to go fast

[dense violet]

not sure! hyper tubes are for sure too