satisfactory

[viral tendon]

Where do you live?

[wanton blaze]

dev/null flavor.

[sharp bay]

vietnam

[viral tendon]

Fuck are those flavours give me a real one

[sharp bay]

uhh original

[unkempt blade]

blasphemy! your opinion is wrong but you're still an amazing person and I hope you have a great day

[sharp bay]

(idk how it tastes anyway)

[viral tendon]

ubuy vietnam

[sharp bay]

eh i probably won't be bothered enough just to try a drink

[viral tendon]

Please do

[sharp bay]

nuh uh

[viral tendon]

It's the best thing i've tasted

In my country it's not avaible but i'm good with overpaying for it just to drink it

[sharp bay]

i will not be tempted by your addiction

[viral tendon]

It's the best taste that touched my mouth in drinks

You're just missing out

[sharp bay]

nah i'm good with co2

[viral tendon]

Dr pepper is better

[sharp bay]

nuh uh

[viral tendon]

Yuh uh

[sharp bay]

i'd rather drink blended bacon agaric

[viral tendon]

I love coconut flavour

[sharp bay]

bacon agaric flavor

[viral tendon]

It doesn't exist

[narrow cedar]

where can i find bacon agaric? Is there like a specific spot, or should i just run around

[sharp bay]

nuh uh you're just lyin to me

[quiet gust]

anywhere

[viral tendon]

run around

[wanton blaze]

Spread around the map

[sharp bay]

some areas has more concentrations of it
but general it's anywhere

[unkempt blade]

all over the place

[viral egret]

#screenshots message reinforced iron plates: done ✅

[manic topaz]

holy crap satisfactory with UEVR seems amazing
too bad my computer can barely run satisfactory on its own

[wanton blaze]

No thanks.

[lean ferry]

NO

MY GAME JUST CRASHED DO I LOSE MY

[wanton blaze]

PRogress?

[sharp bay]

autosave

[ivory inlet]

just discovered that foundations cost the same amount no matter the size

[sharp bay]

at max you'll just lose 5minutes of progress

[ivory inlet]

did not expect that

[wanton blaze]

autosaves exist, but you may have lost some, depending on your settings.

[wanton blaze]

Unless they changed to off, or increased the timer

[viral tendon]

I wondah how will phase 5 space elevetor will look

[sharp bay]

either the foundations are hollow to give us the illusions or it's magik

[white dawn]

In general the game's not interested in nickel-and-diming you. :)

[sharp bay]

makes sense

[ivory inlet]

It's gotta be magic lol

[silk rose]

why isnt vc here

[viral tendon]

156 ai thingies and 18 warp drives, 17 warp drives

[white dawn]

Impossible (or at least totally infeasible) to properly moderate

[wanton blaze]

They got removed because people being asshats in voicechat, and no proper moderationtools for it. It's generally better to create your own group.

[quiet gust]

large server * vc = bad idea

[lean ferry]

its telling me to donwload content

its taking like 10 mins ]

[silk rose]

unfortunate

[quiet gust]

they had a patch

[tidal epoch]

finally 700 MW power

[sharp bay]

the factory must grow

[rustic hare]

spamming load game to get steel screws now..

[ivory inlet]

are there specific rewards I am aiming for from these hard drives or will I eventually get them all?

[silk rose]

i just realised that this server is like 250k people and largest server ive been in vc on is like 15k

[rustic hare]

there is a tier list somewhere, but I like I discover things on my own, so my top picks are casted/steel screws, heavy encased frame, diluted (packaged) fuel, heavy residual oil

[sharp bay]

some of the recipes are really really good

like the said diluted/diluted packaged fuel

[white dawn]

You will eventually get them all, and have hard drives to spare

[quiet gust]

you will eventually get them all and almost no one can agree on any recipes except the top 5

[ivory inlet]

awesome, this makes me feel less stressed lol

[white dawn]

There are a handful of recipes which have pretty wide consensus about being "good" or "bad," (and even those will have people who disagree with that consensus) but the vast majority are just there to give you options while building

[ivory inlet]

I took steamed copper sheets as my first one over bicoal

[quiet gust]

what tier?

[ivory inlet]

i didn't even notice a tier im not going to lie

[quiet gust]

what phase

like are you at

[ivory inlet]

oh mb, im in phase 1 about to unlock steel stuff

[rustic hare]

btw you can save before the rescan, then just load that save back up if you don't like the rescan

[quiet gust]

i will tell you, steamed sheets isnt useabl till tier 5

[narrow cedar]

Im convinced there's a bacon shortage on this island

[ivory inlet]

no worries, to be honest I didn't plan on using bicoal either

but thank you for the heads up!

[quiet gust]

what you could have done hoever is save them in your hard drive library so you donmt get either again for awhile

[silk rose]

thats what i asked here about recently and guys just said 'just get them all', i replied like 'i have life'

[rustic hare]

lol, I specifically did that to get all the ones I consider "good"

[narrow cedar]

I FOUND BACON

[ivory inlet]

this is good to know thank you, I would do that but I am working on something and dont feel like pausing for however long to fish for stuff

[rustic hare]

you can leave the drive in there indefinitely, and save, then rescan etc.. whenever you are done with the task, you can even scan another drive

the first roll is determined the moment you hit scan, but the rescan is determined the moment you hit rescan, think of this cheat as infinite rescan lol

[reef basin]

usually it's easier to just find another drive, than to trying to cheat the system

[rustic hare]

it'd be harder to cheat if the rolls were determined the moment it enters your inventory

[silk rose]

another 100

[white dawn]

An unasked-for tip, btw: when you do get back to hard drive hunting, remember that you can construct a MAM out in the field, load the drive into it for research, then deconstruct the MAM and go along your way. Once the research finishes you can build another MAM to choose, and/or load in another drive for research. Saves a lot of time later on if you start researching right away

[ivory inlet]

Legend thank you, I will keep this in mind. I havent reall gone hunting for them at all, just happened to find some while looking for resources

[steel atlas]

what is the mercer sphere for?

[rustic hare]

same thing with crafting bench, I keep forgetting it can be standalone outside of the HUB

[white dawn]

Research it in the MAM to find out!

[rustic hare]

spoiler || dimensional depot ||

[steel atlas]

I researched back at base but didn't go back to check yet, exploring ^^

[silk rose]

imagine if mam and hub needed power

[steel atlas]

thanks

[ivory inlet]

It's so weird having coal power now cause I dont feel rushed to do things while I have enough biofuel to last me a few hours lol

[white dawn]

Non-hard-drive researches all take like 3 seconds. :) You can construct a new MAM where you are to check the results, if you want.

[silk rose]

you mean ||ender chest||

[rustic hare]

ikr, overnight afk sessions suddenly became possible

[sharp bay]

and such a relief as well

[ivory inlet]

I would do this if my game didnt crash every now and then

[white dawn]

🤢 @ AFK "playtime"

[ivory inlet]

16 gigs of ram is not enough lol

[rustic hare]

mine too

[white dawn]

But yeah, the jump to coal power is always a breath of fresh air. Though with belt-fed bio-burners, Phase 1 feels a lot less frantic

[quiet gust]

i play on 16 gigs with nly 8 as dedicated vram

[ivory inlet]

idk what im doing wrong then, my PC is pretty messy so it probably has something to do with that

[minor rock]

find a kit if you can, 32 is nice to have

[rustic hare]

I didn't even know you can place the portable miners down before I built the auto miner, first playthrough is REALLY frantic

[quiet gust]

in video settings click run hardware benchmark and use the settingsx it gives you

[minor rock]

tbh i would nearly prefer mismatched kits vs the speeds, like 2x8 and 1x16 over 2x8 tbh

[rustic hare]

idk if it's a pc thing, but I'm running a 5700x, 32gb ram, 4060 and still getting those random crashes

[lean ferry]

HOW TO CHANGE PREFERED FUEL FOR JETPACK

[steel atlas]

if I put down a MAM while exploring and start a harddrive research and take the MAM down, will it continue researching?

[rustic hare]

there's a cog icon in your inv

[quiet gust]

click on the options wheel next to it when you equip it

[rustic hare]

yes

[steel atlas]

cool thanks

[lean ferry]

thanks

[rustic hare]

that wait for satisfactory to update was so long lmao

[quiet gust]

100 hours in and only noww am doing weapons lmao

[rustic hare]

not getting the basher asap is really odd of you

[quiet gust]

i have the basher and rebar

thats it

and only shatter rebar

[ivory inlet]

I just realized that I built a tier 2 conveyor belt but forgot to upgrade the lift 💀 I did that so long ago haha

[wise junco]

rebar ftw

[rustic hare]

get explosive rebar as soon as you unlock it, and try to automate it, trust me, good stuff

[wise junco]

classic

[quiet gust]

( i have another save hwere i beat the game i am very veteran)

[rustic hare]

it'll stick for a while, I just built a t4 conv into a t1 lift a few hours ago lol

[rustic hare]

ohh mb

[quiet gust]

np

[wise junco]

shortguini

[quiet gust]

i started a new save with the challenge to use all alts

[rustic hare]

goated ammo still true though, massive damage

[quiet gust]

shatter rebar ftw

tied with homing rifle ammo

explosive*

[rustic hare]

ngl explosive rebar is only weak against the hatcher

stun rebar + basher or rifle alone is better for the hatcher

[quiet gust]

if you cruoch next to a hactcher it does nothing

[rustic hare]

yeah, I read that on the wiki yet never really used that knowledge

[quiet gust]

its op, cause it also works while midair with jetpack

[rustic hare]

jump boost to it, crouch

[quiet gust]

i forgot the other thing i had was reg nobelisks cause i haad to remove rocks

and coral in the blue crator

[rustic hare]

steel screw recipe op af mid-late game

[quiet gust]

( fun fact steel rods plus regs screws is more reasource effiecient)

[rustic hare]

but not space efficient

[quiet gust]

no

[ivory inlet]

OMG I just realized I can use stackable conveyor poles when exploring to reach high up things

[quiet gust]

fun fact, you can make solid aluminum rotors

[rustic hare]

I use the ladder

[quiet gust]

ladder is in the shop though

[ivory inlet]

wait how high can the ladder go??

[quiet gust]

infinted

[rustic hare]

yeah it is, but you can delete it in one go

[foggy heart]

anyone know of a tool or website or app or something where you can plan your factories? not like scim or modeler for logistics but something that has the machines to scale and whatnot

[leaden ether]

It took me an embarasingly long time to figure out that the ladder was zoopable -.-

[white dawn]

IMO catwalks are the best for exploration aids, but yeah, lots of options. Even just foundation ramps do the job

[rustic hare]

that's if you got infinite zoop, without it, caps at 20 rods per zoop, not sure how high that is

[quiet gust]

u think 40 m per ladder but they can stack forrever

[white dawn]

Once you unlock the power towers + zipline, that becomes extraordinarily useful as well

[ivory inlet]

I am currently having choice paralysis over how to best set up this new factory

[rustic hare]

besides canons and jetpack, this is my main method of travel atm

[rustic hare]

don't choose, you'll tear it down later

just yeet whatever is in your mind down into the world

[tidal epoch]

yeah i tore mine as well

[ivory inlet]

Yea I think I am trying to see how I can build my second one without tearing down my first haha

I am starting to think tearing down the first might make my life easier

[royal bobcat]

yo are hypertube cannons just broken for everyone now? I cant seem to angle the tube up to shoot me upwards, it only wants to send me into the ground

[white dawn]

I tend to recommend leaving your stuff as-is. Just build new stuff elsewhere; your original stuff will keep on working even if it's janky

[rustic hare]

friendly reminder: kill one space elephant a day makes ada happy

[white dawn]

It's a huge world, and folks often underestimate how many resources are out there. You have to really try to exhaust resources in this game; you're not going to run out.

Plus, then you get to build in a variety of neat-looking environments instead of tying yourself to one location!

[ivory condor]

[ivory inlet]

I feel like I am forced to do this cause they get stuck on my stuff lol

[rustic hare]

150hr in and I still only explored 1/4th of the map

[white dawn]

(Also, moving back into my usual "build lots of smaller factories all over the map" advice, that also often makes it easier to know how you want to approach factory building. You can try something new and if you don't like it? Who cares, it's just this one factory. Do something different on the next, etc!)

[rustic hare]

note: they have double the hp of the player according to the wiki, will be hard unless they are trapped inside your stuff xD

I had to blast 3 of them away today building my fuel gen, ADA was proud

[sharp bay]

3 cluster bombs should do the trick

[quiet gust]

im pretty sure they respawn regardless

[sharp bay]

well not instantly

[quiet gust]

after 3 ingame days

[sharp bay]

which is probably more than enough for you to finish that portion of the factory

[rustic hare]

at the start of the game where I whack them and they run away, I didn't even know they were killable

[sharp bay]

well the first thing that came to my mind when i saw them is
"big = tanky"

[viral tendon]

Phase 5 resourcers are completed

Sealed

[quiet gust]

are you about to beat the game for the first time

[viral tendon]

Was the question about first time or about beating the game

[quiet gust]

first time

[viral tendon]

Anyway yes

[quiet gust]

get a good photo i swtg( dont share it though)

[rustic hare]

wait, a conveyor wall hole cannot enroach a machine's clearance unlike convs and splitters can be.. is this an oversight?

[quiet gust]

probably

[whole pebble]

could somone help me out? my game keeps crashing a few seconds into loading a save and i cant read crash reports

[gilded goblet]

wires and cables automated

[quiet gust]

ffirst question as this is the only one i know, does it say anything in the first line or two about the object limit

[willow glen]

No, it’s classified as a support, so like conveyer poles they cannot clip inside machines. Curious why there’s a wall inside your machine, but that’s irrelevant

[rustic hare]

the wall is right next to my machine, on it's bounding box's edge

[whole pebble]

no, it says: Unhandled Exception: EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION reading address 0xffffffffffffffff

[willow glen]

ahh, time to expand then (or just clip the belt thru the wall/remove the wall like before)

[quiet gust]

no clue then

[whole pebble]

dang 😦

[rustic hare]

sounds like a memory issue

[willow glen]

Try verifying install on Steam/epic, sounds like your files got broken to me

could be memory but if that’s the case the game would have never worked

[whole pebble]

I have 32GB of ram and I verified my fiiles already. ill do it again tho.

[viscid wren]

Same here boys, just joined to see if anyone else had the issue

[fluid sapphire]

Game is kinda unstable after 1.1

Lots of crashing

Sometimes it's fine for 8 hours straight, other times crash a few minutes in

[willow glen]

I haven’t had any crashes after 1.1, prob about 250 hours since then, but every set of hardware is different

[viscid wren]

Was working perfectly for me with no crashes up till now, it's likely the latest update that borked something up

[quiet gust]

ive only had crashes related to me not reading the crash report and realizing i was a t the u object limit

[ivory condor]

yes but no, thats just how unreal engine handles crashes

[whole pebble]

now its giving: Unhandled Exception: EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION reading address 0x0000021a75d21000

as the first line

[ivory condor]

you would need to dump more of the callstack to get a better idea

[whole pebble]

could i do that in this channel?

[willow glen]

the hex address being different doesn’t give any additional clue tbh. Need more info

[rustic hare]

oh, I have no understanding of unreal, that's just how it crashes?

[willow glen]

prob best in its own thread in #1038092680493801533

[ivory condor]

more or less standard yes

doesnt tell you much without the rest of the call stack

[rustic hare]

ah

[willow glen]

most are cryptic like that, the most fun one I’ve gotten is “VIDEO DEVICE REMOVED” despite it clearly still being there. That crash is usually related to faulty overclocking; I removed the overclock on my card and everything was stable. Wasn’t worth the 1.5fps boost tbh

[quiet gust]

when is intel going to make a sloopable chip

[ivory condor]

yeah oc is usually not worth it for the tiny increase in performance

[willow glen]

UE5 so demanding tho, but from what I’ve read it’s been about a decade and a half since home overclocking was worth it unless you go full refrigeration

[hexed phoenix]

Can confirm, that using a purple slug as thermal paste doesn't increase the performance of the CPU by a factor of 5.. In fact is was somewhat a large decrease in performance..

[ivory condor]

when you need to go full refrigeration to enjoy gaming

[shy mulch]

#screenshots this build gave me a headache. Loads of manifolds and buffers, gonna take about 3 hours to warm up and fill everything properly so it all works at max efficiency. If all going one, one final check over everything then I'll release the APMs and see what power it boosts me to

[fluid sapphire]

Just have to set your cpu to 250% clock speed

[viral tendon]

Who else but satisfactory palyers

Well the game is done what do i do now

Wait it isn't

[minor rock]

do it irl but in the china

[viral tendon]

Why is teher new launch button

[lament niche]

you can get past that, ask @grave burrow for his object file

[viral tendon]

Well project assembly is done when new project

[quiet gust]

i know i did that fo rmy first world

[viral tendon]

Absolutely magestic end

[shy mulch]

Self imposed challenges
Start again from a different biome
Focus on design, making things look nicer
Build bigger, scale everything up

[shy mulch]

Yeah it's really nice to watch

[quiet gust]

do a challenge run with no alts

[viral tendon]

Thanks no

[viral tendon]

Thanks no

[gilded goblet]

is there set power slug spawns

[viral tendon]

I believe so

[quiet gust]

yes

[shy mulch]

They don't respawn. There is a set amount all placed carefully in specific locations

[viral tendon]

What if u delete space elevator mid cutscene

[shy mulch]

Try it

[wicked nacelle]

try it

[viral tendon]

No

[quiet gust]

it still does its stuff

[viral tendon]

Nice

[gilded goblet]

ah

[quiet gust]

just only the sky stuff works

[gilded goblet]

is there a map that I can access cuz I just need one more to unlock underclocking and such

[wicked nacelle]

yes, the spawns are set. they do not respawn though. There are LOTS of power slugs -- more than enough

[quiet gust]

but in tier 9 you get automated power shards.

[viral tendon]

Well because elevator only delievers and that sky stuff is just floating

[quiet gust]

satisfactory calculator

[shy mulch]

Satisfactory calculate, Google it

[wicked nacelle]

they are NOT hard to find if you just go exploring

[viral tendon]

Well those were fun 570 hours

[quiet gust]

oh shit

[viral tendon]

What the fuck is this

[austere pendant]

XD

[tidal epoch]

wtf?

[wicked nacelle]

the next 570 hours are even better

[austere pendant]

XDDDD

[viral tendon]

Did you just ping every role in existence

[narrow cedar]

are cast screws and screws the same when it comes to usage

[quiet gust]

was trying to copy the link to the calculator

[viral tendon]

Welp good luck in ban world

Rest in peace buddy

[wicked nacelle]

they are just different ways to make the same thing. the thing that comes out of both recipes is just "screw"

[quiet gust]

no one saw anything

[narrow cedar]

Thanks

[viral tendon]

well moderator loggs did

Oh no here comes the moderator

[gilded goblet]

theres 596 power slugs???

[quiet gust]

well its obvious that was on accident

[gilded goblet]

blue ones

[viral tendon]

Well, was nice time hanging out with ya lunguini

[quiet gust]

IM SORRY

[dreamy nova]

Was a mistake, it's alright just please remember not to ping Moderators for no reason

[wicked nacelle]

and you can use sloops to double the number of power shards you get from them, too.

[gilded goblet]

ah

[viral tendon]

Mf pinged EVERYONE except no role people

[dreamy nova]

You literally can't ping everyone

[viral tendon]

I mean like every role

So everyone except people with no role

[wicked nacelle]

whatever. let's move on

[dreamy nova]

Not every role is pingable, please move on now.

[ivory inlet]

is there a way for me to see recipe info in game without looking at the machines gui

like, a hand book or something

[viral tendon]

Didn't know

[placid stirrup]

Nalculator

[viral tendon]

Press O and type in thing you need

[wicked nacelle]

however you want to pull up the codex...

[viral tendon]

Click on it to see the details

[ivory inlet]

thank you did not know the button for it

[viral tendon]

Longunini is awfully quiet

[viral tendon]

It's down left on the screen

Every button you'll ever need

[reef basin]

huh what happened here

[ivory inlet]

I dont think I ever noticed that lol

[viral tendon]

A guy basically copied message from faq and sent it here

Accidentally

[wicked nacelle]

your other left

[viral tendon]

Yes

[gilded goblet]

this interactive map is, interesting

[bitter agate]

Welp, I now have 67,000 packaged Biofuel

[viral tendon]

So uhm what do i do after project assembly

Haven't seen top right corner being empty for some time

When new content

[willow glen]

Enhance your golden nut collection

[swift pebble]

https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/553550313533997057/1395492540924432567
This has to be basic as fuck but I'm pretty proud of my new power plant

[viral tendon]

We want new content

[royal bobcat]

exploit the planet for ALL of its resources

[willow glen]

or you can make your current factory prettier, rebuild it in a better way, etc

[bitter agate]

Nice work

[viral tendon]

Okay i'm not doing that

[swift pebble]

I finally feel like I'm actually using blueprints effectively

[willow glen]

Full map utilization is a fun goal but at 50% my fps just plummets

[royal bobcat]

idk bro thats like the whole point is to exploit the planets resources to make BIG factories

[viral tendon]

525 hours yikes

[swift pebble]

Big factories that make what, I think that's the question

[royal bobcat]

more power ig, see just how much power you can make

[willow glen]

That’s entirely up to you, but the sink likes project parts the best

you’ll need lots of power to make lots of parts to sink, that’s also a great goal

[viral tendon]

It's funny how i don't have achievment for phase 1 elevator

[bitter agate]

Generally people go several ways about making power, and then there's crazy people that go Nuclear and somehow balance a 9 stage processing cycle for Powah

[willow glen]

Most of the people I see making postgame megafactories end up putting way more time into the facade designs than the actual production lines themselves, something I just started embracing myself

[viral tendon]

Saying nuclaer power is crazy is crazy

Nuclear power is for real players

[willow glen]

I have a save where I use all the uranium on the map. The power plant covers literally half the swamp lol

[placid stirrup]

No gatekeeping

[bitter agate]

It's truly a test of skill to see how well a person can actually manage a factory and regional ones as well that support it as well

[viral tendon]

Better then rocket or turbo fuel

[bitter agate]

Yeah the swamp is one of the best spots for it, I would move it out of that region but I designed a whole startup off a singular Uranium node that would turn on more production

[viral tendon]

Funny how more people have completed space elevtaor phase one than actually who built one

Still haven't visited every 4 biomes afte r completing the game

[bitter agate]

Go collect your artifacts and slugs then

[viral tendon]

No

[willow glen]

It’s not as comparable; uranium has no other use but oil does, however encased steel beams have other uses whereas rocket fuel doesn’t touch your normal production stuff (besides the trickle of iron)

[bitter agate]

Rocket Fuel touches Uranium production chains as well, only limitation is the amount of Nitrogen there is. (I can't remember the recipes off the top of my head)

[viral tendon]

All im saying is using rocket fuel means you're not a real player

Lemme build 3 million fuel gens and 6 million refiniers just using blueprints from internet

What's the fun

[fluid sapphire]

How dare you say that to my plan of 1000 generators

[white dawn]

I'd agree with the "No gatekeeping" comment from awhile ago. Nuclear's always been optional (as has been rocket fuel, for that matter)

Anyone playing Satisfactory is a "real player," no need to get snooty about power choices

[fluid sapphire]

My own blueprints, thanks

[viral tendon]

Nuclear is NOT optional at phase 5

[reef basin]

it very much is

[willow glen]

Dang that’s pretty gatekeepey. I’ve done nuclear in the past and it ends up needing a lot of different resources, rocket fuel just basically needs the oil and nitrogen, neither of which are precious tbh.

[royal bobcat]

nuclear is a test of character and if you dont abuse it and maximize the potential you failed that test vro

[white dawn]

Sure it is. Everything depends on how big you build

[bitter agate]

Yeah it's always been an option, power choices are on how much there will be and what is planned.

[reef basin]

given that you can technically beat the whole game with one machine of each type 🤷

[viral tendon]

You will jkust not have enough coal or oil on the map for 100k max cons

[royal bobcat]

Nuclear is the PEAK of production lines

[fluid sapphire]

My 300GW NRF plant would disagree

[viral tendon]

What is nrf

[hard ivy]

peak of complexity, sure

[frail sleet]

I used like 1/5'th of the oil for 180 GW (not counting APA's)

[fluid sapphire]

Nitro rocket fuel

[white dawn]

I'm one of the resident nuclear power advocates, but it's 100% not necessary, and I don't want anyone to feel bad for not building any of it (edit: sheesh, said "expert" instead of "advocate" accidentally. Oops.)

[viral tendon]

Says the rocket fuel user

[viral tendon]

With diluted fuel sure

Pretty possible

[bitter agate]

I'm staying away from massive fuel gen spam, not my thing

[frail sleet]

ofc with diluted fuel (though it's not neccesary)

[viral tendon]

I prefer nuclear because it's not that big of a brain fuck as 180k MW of fuel gens

[frail sleet]

you can make like 5000 GW with oil based power only

[viral tendon]

Look who's mad

[willow glen]

1000 oil makes over 100GW. There’s over 12000 oil on the map. “Just beat the game” maxes out around 50-60GW, 100GW is already megabase territory.

[fluid sapphire]

That's fine, it's easily enough to beat the game and then some, is my point

[viral tendon]

Using middle finger reactions

[viral tendon]

Cajn we like not repeat the same thing other 20 people said 30 seconds ago?

[green fiber]

you can play however you like.
Building a ton of the same stuff gets you on the lunatic list regardlessly

[viral tendon]

I'm not trolling

[bitter agate]

I say 1 600/min pipe of oil for power and that's it, any more and it's off limits.

[viral tendon]

Get a load of this guy

[reef basin]

"megabase" usually means "all production in a single place", I guess you wanted to say something like "overkill base"? 😄

[viral tendon]

Anytime person is wrong they're "trolling"

[quiet gust]

Giga base

[hard ivy]

so nuclear does too

[green fiber]

yes

You are definitely on my lunatic list, but for a different reason

[hard ivy]

fair tbh

[viral tendon]

Nuclear power plant of 120k MW took me like 4-5 hours

[bitter agate]

Giga Factory™

[viral tendon]

It's nowhere near lunatic list

[hard ivy]

methinks you're lying because 630 GW took me 200h in U8 with AGS

[viral egret]

Giga Satisfactory™

[viral tendon]

Genuinely have no idea what last 5 words are

[ivory condor]

Tera base

[green fiber]

200 hours in Update 8 (pre 1.0) with Advanced Game Settings (basically cheats)

[viral tendon]

Took you 200 what in what with what

[reef basin]

~~that's because they used nonexisting unit, so they are actually talking about a different amount of power than you think 😛 ~~

[viral tendon]

Got it

[viral tendon]

I thought we talked about this more than enough

Also making that little line does NOT mean i can't see the message😛

[hard ivy]

if we talked about it enough, everyone would be using correct units. yet you still don't

[viral tendon]

What do they do

[green fiber]

stuff

[viral tendon]

Did you understand me? Yes, what's the point of correcting then?

[hard ivy]

because you're wrong 🤷‍♂️

[reef basin]

good thing the strikethrough wasn't there to hide the message

[viral tendon]

Okay you understood me why are you correcting me?

Okay let me correct you, the sentence should start with capital letter

[white dawn]

Strikethrough (when used like that, anyway) is generally used to indicate that the poster knows they're being trolly/snarky/sarcastic, and thus the statement shouldn't be treated as "serious"

[viral tendon]

Welp why are you not using capital letter at the start of your message?

[hard ivy]

I thought we have /s for that

[green fiber]

why not both

[viral tendon]

What is "/s"

[fluid sapphire]

Poe's law

[green fiber]

single standards are silly

[modern apex]

advanced game settings lets you:

• give items
• disable spooky spiders entirely
• disable mobs
• disable like electricity
  and more

[viral tendon]

2nd one is fine imo

[reef basin]

because it's not a sentence

[white dawn]

Heh, yeah, they both do similar duties. :D I've personally never gotten in the habit of /s for whatever reason, though I do occasionally strikethrough. Go figure. :)

[viral tendon]

Then what is it

[modern apex]

yea

[green fiber]

i just use for that

either way, all 3 begin with "s"

[modern apex]

do the devs plan to make the map show actual buildings?

[white dawn]

You would, wouldn't you? /s

[modern apex]

kind of annoys me to need a 3rd party website to see that

[reef basin]

yours begins with : and the other one begins with /

[viral tendon]

I'm losing the plot

[green fiber]

there is no plot

[reef basin]

don't think so, since with 3D it would be a mess

[spring blade]

sup people decided to join the discord like i plan to get the game possibly on the weekend 🤔

[bitter agate]

It's on sale right now

[viral tendon]

I had no idea what is /s and people are talking absolute nonsense about it

[white dawn]

I couldn't find it with a cursory glance through the clips archive, but I believe they have mentioned it on stream at least once in the past. Something they'd like to do, potentially, but just have never had the cycles to do it. There is a mod which does it, I think, called Cartograph or something like that.

[spring blade]

i dont got funds till monday so imma cut it close on the sale. 🤣

so maybe sale price, maybe full price ill see

[hard ivy]

I was gonna say SCIM is fine for me, and a similar solution would work fine in-game but then I realized all my factories are basically 2D

[modern apex]

good

[bitter agate]

I'm sure they didn't add buildings to the map since it may make more lag than ever

[white dawn]

To be fair, the real utility of factory buildings showing up on the map isn't really to get a fully detailed+useful map of the factory (re: the 2d-vs-3d thing) so much as just being able to see your footprint trivially

[viral tendon]

Lovin my 200k Mw

[reef basin]

somehow it got even more wrong

[white dawn]

I don't think anyone would complain just 'cause an overhead minimap view didn't show anything but the top floor. But yeah, it'd be a performance/computational problem to solve for sure, which is probably more reason why they've not taken the time to try it yet

[worldly pelican]

better than 200M Kw 😉

[bitter agate]

Hmm... I feel as if my 8.4 GW Biomass/Power Augmenter setup is overkill for right now.

[viral tendon]

ABsolutely love my 0.200 X M mw

[spring blade]

anyone plays the game on steam deck?

[green fiber]

biomass + augmenter.....

[white dawn]

Though I suppose someone with experience running that mod could comment on how much it impacts performance

[white dawn]

I've heard various reports that it runs surprisingly well on the Deck. (I don't run it myself, though.) Building smaller factories spread out across the whole map is probably even more recommended on the Deck, though, than it already is for other players. :)

[bitter agate]

Shut- I am not touching coal power

[hard ivy]

You know, I think that refusing to admit you're wrong and continuing to be wrong willingly is a sign of low intelligence. Just throwing it out there

[green fiber]

weakling
FEAR the coal

[spring blade]

ah ok. 🧐 i only play on steam deck so ok..it runs well so ill look forward to that next week

[hard ivy]

why? coal is easier than bio

[bitter agate]

More like I want Oil online faster and so I don't have to kill a whole coal plant later

[green fiber]

why kill it.
just leave it on

[worldly pelican]

I did for a while

[late heart]

Nah I make the coal fear me

[white dawn]

You do have a 2-hour refund window, of course, though the early game performance might not tell you anything about later-game performance; the game will eventually start to slow down. But yeah, I'd recommend avoiding the urge to have a "main base" on the Deck; spread out across the map and you should be fine

[bitter agate]

Because i'm using the coal later for Steel

[spring blade]

ok

[white dawn]

Not sure if the Deck could handle anything that most would consider a "megaproject" but AFAIK it should be just fine for regular-person playthroughs where you don't go crazy. :)

[hard ivy]

there's 40000+ coal available on the map

[viral tendon]

You know, i always hate to see when people are trying to correct someone 1000th time when they keep telling they will forget it and there's no point of doing, when they say why you shouldn't correct person who was wrong, when people correct in a bad way and not friendly way, kinda sign of low intelligence too. Just throwing it out there

[ivory inlet]

this might be a silly question, but how do I build a second floor? is there a "floor" block that I'm missing, foundations dont seem to snap to walls

[undone yarrow]

They should..? but can be odd

[green fiber]

foundations snap to walls

[bitter agate]

It's right near where I am and i'm not placing a coal plant in that little lake just because I can

[white dawn]

Foundations definitely do snap to walls; that's the usual method

[viral tendon]

Ramps and elvetaors and ladders

[ivory inlet]

oh I built the walls the wrong way lmao

[white dawn]

(Can also snap them to pillars and such, but walls are generally easiest)

[late heart]

I play on a legion go and I've never encountered an issue

[viral tendon]

Love my 1.2 × 10¹¹ W nuclear powerplant

Nucler power is so nice, 6 blenders can make you whole 0.000000120 zw!

That's really large amount

[reef basin]

just throwing it out there, I always hate to see people trolling for no reason

[viral tendon]

Just throwing out there, i always hate when people can't stop bringing up the same topic

[hard ivy]

I wish blocking someone would hide the messages entirely

[viral tendon]

Kinda wish too

[reef basin]

there's third-party clients, though I think they are against ToS

[viral tendon]

Just throwing it out therem kinda wish when someone asks to not correct them and people still correct them that's bad

[worldly pelican]

🤫

or do I need to throw something?

[reef basin]

some food would be nice

[worldly pelican]

My popcorn is empty, sorry 😉

[viral tendon]

Throw grenade idk

[white dawn]

pbfcomics.com/comics/food-fight

[reef basin]

I'm literally sitting in my chair being super thirsty and hungry but lazy to go to fridge 😄

[hard ivy]

same lol

[late heart]

Love my 1.2×10⁴¹ qW of power

[hard ivy]

except I have water at my desk so I'm not thirsty

[viral tendon]

Ah yhess, good old 4.32 × 10¹⁴ j/h

[viral tendon]

Personally i have 0.000000000000120 YW powerplant, what about you bro

[worldly pelican]

lets drop that for now, ok?

[late heart]

Ah yes good ole 3.62×10³⁰ quanta

[viral tendon]

I think we're done

Had one up my sleeve but it had to end

[viral tendon]

👍🏻

[late heart]

Only just saw the moderator

[viral tendon]

Dead chat

[late heart]

Mod killed the chat

[uncut trail]

how can i modify my hotbar, i wanna switch conveyer belt 1 for 2

[viral tendon]

Open build menu hover over mk 2 belt and press the button

[uncut trail]

thanks

[viral tendon]

Well someone's here except us

[late heart]

That's good at least lol

[viral tendon]

Interesting

[uncut trail]

yea i js joined

have been playing for 2 days made my first big factory

[viral tendon]

Nice

[leaden ether]

I SO wish that you had to press ctrl while setting a hot bar button :( I end up accidentally changing my hot bar entries constantly. It shouldn't be that easy to reset.

[uncut trail]

i have a feeling that ill have to scrap all of my factories and build better ones via guides 😞

[clever sandal]

you guys know anything about slide hopping?

[quiet gust]

its amazing

[reef basin]

I'd heavily recommend to not do that 🙂

making your own factories is best way to learn
and generally dismantling factories is a waste of time, just build new ones and keep old ones

[clever sandal]

slide hopping or something else

[quiet gust]

thaty

[clever sandal]

thaty what

[uncut trail]

thanks ill keep that in mind

[quiet gust]

hopping

[clever sandal]

yeah I just discovered that

[gilded goblet]

smart plating automated

[viral egret]

if you dont care about space this game is really easy

it's basic math really

[reef basin]

and since space is practically infinite anyway... 🙂

[ivory condor]

Its very broken in 1.1 now

[narrow cedar]

Does the tractor use fuel when it's waiting on a node?

[reef basin]

should only use fuel when accelerating

[wise junco]

I believe greeny to be correct

[ivory condor]

Seriously I can slide hop and go faster than a vehicle, this sure is balanced

[clever sandal]

ik

you can like go 150 km/h by hopping

i hope they dont fix it it's really fun

[ivory condor]

Forget vehicle, I'll just hop anywhere i need to go

Sure its fun, because the hop is far too strong

[reef basin]

we already have a lot of these "pls no remove bug it's fun" features, and I wouldn't really like to have more

[narrow cedar]

i do know

...

[ivory condor]

Too late I guess this is feature now🤣

[wicked nacelle]

if people don't like feature X they just shouldn't use feature X not ask devs to take it away from other people.

[placid stirrup]

Are you actually playing now?

[ivory condor]

You know greeny doesnt

[reef basin]

if devs don't like feature X, they shouldn't put it in game

[last tartan]

salutations factory creators

[stray loom]

Slide hop into liquid biofuel jetpacking and you can go stupid far across the map on a single can of liquid biofuel

[last tartan]

i am a new member of this discord server

[stray loom]

Just need a bit of height to start

[quiet gust]

thats kinda what makes this game special. In essence if people dont like something like clipping, they wont do it

[last tartan]

and have not completed phase 2 of the space elevator 😭

[placid stirrup]

What's new with slide hopping? Is there a trick to break it now?

[quiet gust]

its just much better and scales much faster

in 1.1

[placid stirrup]

Oh man, so they hyper cannoned slide hopping

[last tartan]

i love slide hopping

[quiet gust]

im pretty dsure it on accident but they dont really care i would gaurenty it

[narrow cedar]

is there somewhere i can make suggestions for the game or nah?

[fossil ice]

Satisfactory Questions

You can send Questions, Feedback, Suggestions, and Bug Reports
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com
<3 @reef basin

Satisfactory Questions

You can send Questions, Feedback, Suggestions, and Bug Reports
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com
<3 @hard ivy

[reef basin]

faster 😛

[last tartan]

i want to hear your suggestion

hit me with it

[ivory condor]

Yes being able to slide hop at 150 km/h this is fine

[last tartan]

im curious about walls

are they always just like, halfway off a foundation or is there any known fix to it

[white dawn]

What do you mean? A #1038092680493801533 post with some pics might be called for

[last tartan]

ill have to dig into it later, in the meantime i gotta get rolling

[uncut trail]

these factories better get me bitches

[fast tendon]

Greetings

[summer agate]

gang does destroying a 3h factory just to rebuild it mostly the same due to obtaining an almost imperceptible increase in efficiency gets interesting in some time or nah

[placid stirrup]

Yes, they straddle foundations. There's a few methods of hiding that seam on the outside of a building, the easiest probably being extending the walls all the way through the ground.

[tidal epoch]

how do directly upgrade from mk1 to mk2 without removing?

[quiet gust]

dont do that, just build more

[quiet gust]

hover the mk2 over the mk1

[ivory condor]

Does getting burn out count as interesting

[reef basin]

build new, keep old

[quiet gust]

careful though if its a miner with power shards remove the shards first

[wicked nacelle]

they go back in your inventory

[last tartan]

Ahhh, glad to know it wasn’t just me. I’ll have to do that later, thank you for the feedback

[quiet gust]

i've heard they dont with shards, and im not too keen to test, but i wouldnt be surprised

[reef basin]

well shards are also infinite anyway, so no real harm

[summer agate]

building in this game is so boring ngl

[wicked nacelle]

I'll test righ tnow

[uncut trail]

where can i get coupons

[summer agate]

my mouse whell broken I can't rotate bidings

[reef basin]

may need to pick up a different game then

[summer agate]

👴

[white dawn]

You cannot lose shards by deconstructing buildings using shards

[wicked nacelle]

never mind no unused ore nodes nearby

[white dawn]

The game is very good about giving you back all resources used to construct things, when you deconstruct, and that includes shards/sloops/etc. There's no known bugs about that that I'm aware of

[summer agate]

is there another one just like satisfactory but not boring? (no offense (

[reef basin]

depends what you do/don't find boring

[summer agate]

I'll hop on again once they give me back my 17min54s free time

[quiet gust]

maybe the person i heard it from is stupid

[summer agate]

🙁

[tidal epoch]

thank god u told me this earlier

[reef basin]

there's tons of factory games, but I do not know your personal preferences

[reef basin]

you don't lose them

[summer agate]

ngl I didn't even knew factory games where a thing 👽ong

[white dawn]

The statement isn't true, though. You will get back everything that's stored in a machine when you deconstruct it. Input/output buffers, shard slots, sloop slots, everything.

[wise junco]

except fluids!

[white dawn]

Aha, true!

[summer agate]

do satisfactory don't have joystick support?

[wicked nacelle]

it has controller support, yes.

[tidal epoch]

im not deconstructing, im upgrading without removing it

[summer agate]

damn I'll have to try again then, gotta configure it on the game tho?

[placid stirrup]

Wonder where they go... 🤔

[white dawn]

Should still be fine!

[white dawn]

Into the Fluid Sink, of course!

It's an ephemeral device that only exists in the Deconstruction Plane

[wise junco]

I cannot reveal proprietary FICSIT information.

[wicked nacelle]

they go back in your inventory.

[last tartan]

At what stage of the space elevator can you get into nuclear?

[placid stirrup]

I don't have enough information to refute those claims so I gotta believe it

[last tartan]

I’ve never made it past stage 1

[white dawn]

Phase 4 (tiers 7+8)

[lost wagon]

I hate going down or up with railroad, should just use a blueprint at this point

[simple stratus]

Jeez some desync issue in a dedicated server is starting to annoy me so much omg

[last tartan]

Stage 2* I’m working on completing the second phase but I need to construct a factory

[quiet gust]

yes

[white dawn]

Factory-building is, indeed, a thing one must generally do in this game

[quiet gust]

bluprint autoconnect go brrr

[white dawn]

(barring some intentional challenge-type runs. :D)

[gilded goblet]

what would be the use of multiple space elevators

[white dawn]

Undefined, since you can't build more than one. :D

[uncut trail]

Does this game have an ending? like poof and credits

[white dawn]

Though presumably if one could trick the game into doing so, you could presumably create a build-once-touch-never complete SE part intake system, rather than having to go back and re-belt it after each phase

[wicked nacelle]

yes, sort of. it's not really that good. its' just like "congrats, you're done"

[gilded goblet]

it lets you like put more into a todo list tho

[white dawn]

There is an ending, yes, and there are credits, though afterwards you are welcome to keep playing and working on personal goals as long as you want (and you may not even have all milestones unlocked)

[uncut trail]

Okay thanks guys

[white dawn]

Also take that implied racist slur out of your profile text, please

[uncut trail]

me?

[white dawn]

Yes

[wicked nacelle]

omfg who cares.

[white dawn]

Also popping in here with a sexist "bitches" wasn't a great look, but c'est la vie

[uncut trail]

yea true

[wicked nacelle]

https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/556448894993563659

[white dawn]

I mean, I do? And probably other folks?

[uncut trail]

its iconic line from a movie just had it there

[wicked nacelle]

then don't go digging into people's profiles - if they don't type it in channel then it doesn't matter.

[white dawn]

Movies have context, profile quotes don't.

[clever sandal]

guys check #streams-and-videos

[white dawn]

They did type in the channel that they wanted to "get bitches" though, which is what prompted the "digging," if clicking on someone's name can be called that

[quiet gust]

have yoou tried not looking

[summer agate]

call lazer dim

[uncut trail]

i bet youre fun

[reef basin]

yeah they are

[wicked nacelle]

this isn't the place to play discord profile police.

[summer agate]

gang do not discuss !! not good for your health 👍 👽 👽

[summer agate]

?

[tired cypress]

how do I fix a typo in a blueprint name?

[wicked nacelle]

edit it

[wise junco]

I rather like @white dawn

[summer agate]

redo it idk (haven't got to that part)

[wicked nacelle]

no you click edit It hink

[hard ivy]

you don't. you need to save a new blueprint under the new name

[lost wagon]

wiki says you can combine 2m ramp and 4m ramp to make an incline, but doesn't say how, the game doesn't let me put the rail in a 4m ramp after a 2m ramp

[wicked nacelle]

really? dang

[tired cypress]

damn, guess I'm stuck with my "manufactirer"

[white dawn]

They can't be combined to look like a 3m incline, if that's what you're hoping

You'd end up with alternate 2m + 4m sections. Each ramp is what it is

[wicked nacelle]

go to a blueprint machine, hit "load blueprint" load it then save it as another name. -- make sure blueprint machine is same size as the one you made it in

[hard ivy]

just load the bp into the designer, and save a 2nd copy with the new name, then delete the old one

[white dawn]

I think that the wiki at some point (and maybe now?) had a section on its Train page about the max incline that you're allowed to build rails on, as being inbetween 2+4

[tired cypress]

yeah that would work

[placid stirrup]

@white dawn donated a kidney to save my dog after a hit and run. They're good people

[uncut trail]

holy shit just made space elevator shits hugee

[lost wagon]

no, I just want to make it go up with the least amount of used space making the ramp

[wise junco]

can confirm, i was the kidney

[white dawn]

So if that's what you were looking at, you can use that to give yourself a sort of target

[tired cypress]

it goes all the way to space

[white dawn]

Well I had a bunch lying around, seemed a shame to hoard...

[hard ivy]

I'm assuming you can alternate 2 and 4m ramps, and place rails on the 2m ones

[reef basin]

I donated a dog to save my kidney

wait what

[tired cypress]

hol'up

[placid stirrup]

"Alright, but everyone has to get real cool about a lot of things right now"

[tired cypress]

yeah I tried to donate a kidney but they were all like "whose is it" and "why is it in a bucket"

[lost wagon]

yea, apparently that works, makes it wiggly, but idc

[hard ivy]

just make sure you're using 1 locomotive for every 3-4ish wagons

it won't climb otherwise

[reef basin]

will it just go slow or will it not clear?

[hard ivy]

and you might even want 1:2, if you want it to be fast

[hard ivy]

well, with 6+ wagons per locomotive, I'm pretty sure it won't climb at all

full wagons I should say

unless the incline is short, then inertia might take it up

[placid stirrup]

This is all assuming 2m ramps, right?

[wise junco]

20m ramp when

[reef basin]

wasn't there some minimal speed? or am I confusing this with another game?

[hard ivy]

we're talking about alternating 2 and 4m for a "3m" incline

[wicked nacelle]

yeah, empty weigh 30T full weigh 100T.

[clever sandal]

guys

play cs:go bunny hop music when slide-jumping/hopping

[white dawn]

Just down to acceleration power in this game; there's some inertia too so theoretically starting an incline going faster might let you clear it where starting from a stop wouldn't. (If I'm understanding your question properly)

Like on a perfectly flat rail I think technically even with a huge train you'd only ever need a single engine so long as you're real patient

[hard ivy]

I think there's a limit on the order of ~1000 wagons per locomotive, even on flat rails

[white dawn]

Ah, heh, k

[hard ivy]

not sure if anyone actually tested it tho

that was a theoretical calculation

[white dawn]

Wonder what the throughput limit per car would be for a given resource on such a train

Those round-trip times would be amusing

I suppose it wouldn't take too long in AGS to rig such a thing up

Though maybe I'm underestimating the tedium of setting up 1000 freight cars and 2000 freight platforms. :P

[wicked nacelle]

Deepnds on stack size

[white dawn]

I suppose for the test you wouldn't actually need any of the platforms

[white dawn]

Right, hence "for a given resource." :)

[wicked nacelle]

it's in the wiki by stack size per frieght station -- then just multiply

for 500, it's like 2200/m

[stray loom]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:Train_throughput

[ivory condor]

I have a train setup that way, but not my creation @past hedge its their save file, that save also has other interesting features like train teleporting

[white dawn]

Right, but on a 1000-car-single-engine train, I predict the round-trip time could impose its own cap.

Since the question is how quickly can the train actually make it from station to station in that situation

Will this be what gets me to open up Satisfactory today? maybe

[white dawn]

Yeah, this is presuming a probably-insane RTT. I suspect that at least low-stack items could get capped by the RTT

[stray loom]

There's probably a sweet spot for number of freight cars on a train. You want enough trains on the line that you have one queued up to enter each station so the only wait time is how long it can load/unload and clear the platform to allow the next train in

[wicked nacelle]

You have 427.08s to make a round trip to maximize 500 stack throughput

[wicked nacelle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:Train_throughput

[hard ivy]

depends on belt speed

[wicked nacelle]

There is only 1 belt speed of interest

[ivory condor]

Yeah none of my trains are going to make that

[stray loom]

I literally just linked this lmao

[wicked nacelle]

good job. I didn't see it

[cerulean gorge]

hi

[wicked nacelle]

pronounce your name phonetically or I'll kick you. You have 427.08 seconds to comply

😄

[ivory condor]

[hard ivy]

write the pronunciation in IPA

[leaden turret]

hops + water + time

🥁

[worldly pelican]

welcome to the server

[ivory inlet]

man reinforced plates are annoying as hell, 5 is such a weird number lol

[gilded goblet]

Would 3000MW of power be enough for like, a WHILE?

[ivory inlet]

then everything that uses them takes an even number of plates

[wicked nacelle]

not really

[white dawn]

I have some bad news for you about the numbers you'll be seeing for the rest of the game. :)

[fervent reef]

what should i do for mid game power (i unlocked fuel generators, but i dont want to setup another refinery plant just for power)

[gilded goblet]

I was gonna overshoot power gen and make a setup for 40 coal gens to make 3000 MW's of power

[white dawn]

Fuel is generally considered the mid-game power solution of choice. You have the choice of:

1. Vanillaish fuel (meh)
2. Turbofuel (if you have coal+sulfur handy, it's nice, but I wouldn't seek out coal+sulfur specifically for it)
3. Diluted Fuel (gives you a lot more bang for your buck, oil-to-fuelwise)

[ivory condor]

Rocket fuel is pretty good to

[stray loom]

Depends how much you're willing to wait on stuff to get made. It can last a while if you're fine with running only a few machines max for the stuff you're making early-mid game

[fervent reef]

do i need to make plastic / rubber to get fuel

[white dawn]

Yeah, not midgame, though

[hard ivy]

no

[gilded goblet]

I'm living off 240MW's rn and only using 120-150

with all the basics automated

[white dawn]

No, you can make fuel directly from oil

[fervent reef]

bet

[white dawn]

That's not the most oil-efficient way of doing it, but it works in a pinch

[dawn sun]

You can make fuel directly, which leaves you with polymer resin that can be turned into either one or just sinked as is

[fervent reef]

should i just setup another plastic / rubber plant?

[white dawn]

If you need some more plastic + rubber, sure!

[hard ivy]

why would you do that if you want power, not rubber/plastic?

[white dawn]

I don't tend to make factories for stuff until I need them, though. I don't tend to make stuff "just in case"

[cerulean gorge]

hru

[fervent reef]

bcz acolyptech said its not the most oil efficent way of doing it

[dawn sun]

If you have the alts, the heavy oil residue alt into the diluted fuel alt is more fuel per oil, but it requires the right alts and either packagers or blenders

[white dawn]

Honestly at the stage you're at, don't worry about the oil-efficiency too much

[hard ivy]

yeah, using plastic/rubber to make fuel is not efficient

[red sun]

anyone else have a thingy where the bottom and right edges of the ADA bubble thing get cut off during the animation?

it bothers me far more than it probably should

[white dawn]

You can make fuel directly from Crude Oil; it'll do for now

[wicked nacelle]

1 engine and 100 empty cars accelerates quite acceptibly

[worldly pelican]

doing good

[white dawn]

There's more oil-efficient alt recipes you can unlock, but it's fine

[dawn sun]

That would be most oil efficient off the top of my head, but it's not worth stressing over too much. I'm also doing smth suboptimal rn because it'll do. I'm gonna be running 15 fuel gens at the end of it anyway, which will do for a while

[cerulean gorge]

i can't wait for when I get to ditch biofuel 🐟

[red sun]

best part of the game fr

[wicked nacelle]

hoverpack is best part of game

[cerulean gorge]

my factory is too cramped 🐟

[leaden turret]

some crash sites require an awful lot of power to open.

you'll never be rid of biofuel

[white dawn]

Heh, good to know; just got my AGS save loaded up, was gonna see how the tedium was re: 1k cars. :D

[quiet gust]

by more, much more some that are 4x better for fuel and 4.5x better for rubber and plastic

[quiet gust]

power augmentors go brrrr

[cerulean gorge]

i just built the space elevator, i haven't done the achievement to unlock smart plates :/

my factory is too cramped and i haven't built vertically yet 🐟

[wicked nacelle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/553550313533997057/1395518235478327296/image.png?ex=687abd22&is=68796ba2&hm=d44228ea3ceb13af287194e1c019a0b8440bd52fb3092321824c973c99ae72f9&

[gilded goblet]

what command to give myself smart plates in creative

[vestal hound]

BURNING BUD IS IN STOCK

[vestal hound]

(not a ragebait believe me)

[gilded goblet]

😭 🙏

My gf just dipped out my game to go grab it

[wicked nacelle]

hit escape, advanced command

[cerulean gorge]

priorities

[hard ivy]

APA

[dawn sun]

I'm making a lot of plastic to turn into cannisters for packaged diluted fuel (I don't have blenders yet), and then splitting that into a fraction for vehicle use and a chunk for power production, and at the end I sink all the cannisters for a little bit of passive AWESOME shop point gain. That is already (over)complicated for this stage of the game. Directly making fuel from oil is fine, it'll get you enough fuel for phase 3

[gilded goblet]

sweet thanks

[wicked nacelle]

you don't need many containers for diluted fuel as you reuse them when you immediately unpackage it

[fervent reef]

i think im gonna setup another plastic / rubber plant bcz im gonna setup a massive computer factory soon for high speed connectors / computers / supercomputer and adaptive control unit

so im gonna need alot of plastic

[wicked nacelle]

don't do that until you have recycled rubber/plastic recipes - you're wasting your time otherwise (not that we're not all wasting our time) --- yes, what KY said

[hard ivy]

• HOR and D(P)F

[fervent reef]

ok bet im gonna go on a massive hard drive run then

[dawn sun]

I could, but eh. I'm not doing optimal stuff anyway. I'm just gonna sink a lot of stuff and then I have plastic for future factories ready as well

[wicked nacelle]

that's a good choice -- and if you want to save scum, you can save before you re-roll a hard drive and if you don't like the options just reload your game and try again

[quiet gust]

with alts you ,make many times the amount of plastic/rubber with no byproduct

[drowsy rock]

is homing rifle ammo better then turbo rifle ammo

[quiet gust]

(unless your name is greeny)

[wicked nacelle]

I think so.

[fervent reef]

im still gonna need more power to setup a new refinery plant though

[quiet gust]

yes by miles

[drowsy rock]

ok

[modest mirage]

Hey I thought that area in the Northern Forest had 4 PURE Coal Nodes but it I have 3 Pure and 1 normal?

[wicked nacelle]

turbo rifle ammo is funny to use sometimes but not when there's a green spider on yer ass

[wicked nacelle]

https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/interactive-map

[quiet gust]

turbo rifle ammo is a close range ammo bc it gets ridduclous spread at max speed

[drowsy rock]

ahhh does somer sloop 2x work on space ship parts

[quiet gust]

it works on every machine but packagers

[wicked nacelle]

that's what it's best for until late game (and doubling slug shards)

[hard ivy]

it works on anything you can put sloops into

[modest mirage]

What are you sending me the map for? I'm asking why it's not 4. It used to be 4. Did they cahnge it in an update

[hard ivy]

1.0 changed at lot of nodes

[wicked nacelle]

https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/interactive-map?switchGameBranch=EarlyAccess

[floral sinew]

lmao

[modest mirage]

ahh darn thats a bummer

[drowsy rock]

that saves me so much stuff

[wicked nacelle]

the interactive map has pre-1.0 and post 1.0

[quiet gust]

for the most part its for the better

[tawdry plank]

Is there a way to stop the day night cycle? Or do I gotta install a mod of that?

[modest mirage]

ahhh noted. Thank you!

[quiet gust]

mod

[tawdry plank]

I wanna work on the aluminum factory in light

[floral sinew]

mod

oopps

[drowsy rock]

2.500 versatile framework wtih the 2x output is like what

[tawdry plank]

Alrighty I guess I'm checking the site

[drowsy rock]

HOLY THATS A LOT OF BEAMS

[quiet gust]

its one of the top mods

[tawdry plank]

Alrighty

[quiet gust]

i would think

[tawdry plank]

I guess many people had the same issue as me

[hard ivy]

I use SkyUI for time control

[quiet gust]

i think its called permaday

no wait thats it

[tawdry plank]

I just started getting real annoyed by night

Esp with the jumping stingers in the dark

[quiet gust]

im porb gonna add it cause night is pretty but its never night when i want it to be

[tawdry plank]

It's only night when I'm busy fr

[quiet gust]

and it oly lasts 5 minutes

[tawdry plank]

Never when I take photos

[ivory inlet]

how far along until you unlock a way do destroy rocks? also, can you only destroy certain rocks?

[quiet gust]

in the mam tree in sulfur

[wicked nacelle]

going through my game and cleansing it of drones

[leaden turret]

the only destructable rocks are resource chunks and rocks with cracks in

[tawdry plank]

You can unlock them pretty quick in research

Just go get sulfur

[quiet gust]

(and stones on the ground)

[red sun]

check the mam, like, every time you remember it exists

there's some game changing shit in there, including the nobelisks which you're talking about

[ivory inlet]

ahh but you cant just destroy any boulder in the ground?

[tawdry plank]

Nope

[wicked nacelle]

the ones that look lik eyou can break you can break

[leaden turret]

if you want to delete anything else from the map, you have to join coffee stain

[quiet gust]

any smallish boulder can be destroyed as well

[tawdry plank]

You will see cracks in the breakable ones

[ivory inlet]

well that blows lol

[broken thorn]

Or the modding community....

[red sun]

anything you might consider terraforming is off limits

[leaden turret]

coffee stain pays, volunteering doesn't 😛

[tawdry plank]

Yeah terraforming was already a no according to coffeestain

Mostly cause of how they handcrafted the world

[wicked nacelle]

that's basically just a limitation of unreal engine. You have to have most of your world be static or it just doesn't perform

[red sun]

that too

i feel like if they wanted to add terraforming they'd find a way to make it work

[wicked nacelle]

there are other ways to use it, but the default thing is 99.99% of your level is pre-baked

[red sun]

but they don't want to so they won't, and i don't think they should either

[tawdry plank]

Maybe on a dlc island

[frail sleet]

deep rock galactic terrain would be insane

[tawdry plank]

Or something like that

But I doubt it'll happen ever

[wicked nacelle]

you have VERY different options for optimization between the different styles of games. DRG can't have massive open worlds.

[tawdry plank]

Anyway back to the factory I go see you dudes

If you see any cast screws lemme know 👀

No reason

[red sun]

terraforming in drg usually isn't more than a long tunnel or a crater

constant terraforming on a map as big as SFs would run like cheeks

[wicked nacelle]

follow behind the guy with the drill to get out fast

[placid stirrup]

Alright sure thing bu- hey wait a second

[tawdry plank]

Just trust me D:

[red sun]

MOLLY, COME HERE

[tawdry plank]

How can I live laugh lobotomy in these conditions

[placid stirrup]

You could live laugh toaster bath instead

[tawdry plank]

Not as fun

Brb getting a lobotomy at Claire's

[wicked nacelle]

yeah, stupid GFCI outlets

[tawdry plank]

For real 😔

[wicked nacelle]

how are kids supposed to learn these days?

[placid stirrup]

Daisy chain some power strips out into the hallway

[tawdry plank]

No need for that I have no GFCI outlets here

Not in the US so I'm safe to toaster bath myself just as God intended

[placid stirrup]

The building inspector is on her way, we gottem boys

[tawdry plank]

😭

I can't even die in peace smh

[red sun]

hey guys check out my
[toaster.jpg]
my new bath bomb

[hard ivy]

in my country, the "GFCI" is built into the breaker panel so...

[tawdry plank]

New bottom surgery just dropped it's called the machete

[tawdry plank]

Time to change the laws

[placid stirrup]

Both are used in the USA and Canada, at least 🙂

[tawdry plank]

They don't even let kids have fun nowadays smh

[last tartan]

man

I’m 14 and they don’t let me evade my taxes no more

[tawdry plank]

Wo-man

[tawdry plank]

Shame 😔

[wicked nacelle]

In the US they can be in the outlet or on the breaker.

[tawdry plank]

Anyway back to the lobotomy factory I go

[last tartan]

I make federal minimum wage in a pizza shop and they tax me to

I make 112 dollars every 2 weeks

[tawdry plank]

What a scam

[placid stirrup]

No, you're going to jail for the crimes you've committed against Massage 2(AB-b) and its people.
And you will only be served STEEL screws for meals

[tawdry plank]

NOOOOOOOOOO9OOO

How dare you D:

You want me to starve?!?!?

What's next? Aluminum screws???????

[dusk plank]

Steel screws?! That has to violate some law somewhere

[tawdry plank]

The law of basic decency for me tbh

What am I an animal?

I have standards

[hard ivy]

even better, there are two different ways to make screws from alu ingots

[celest lichen]

well aluminium rods exist

[tawdry plank]

Anyway anyone got some spare screws 👀

[tawdry plank]

Don't make screws from aluminum rods please D:

I'm allergic

[hard ivy]

why would I make a single screw past steel?

[tawdry plank]

😢

[celest lichen]

i'm currently ultimating a 12000 aluminium ingots /m factory so i have plenty to spare for you

[tawdry plank]

To feed your friends??

[placid stirrup]

Don't make me mod in residue screws

[tawdry plank]

Me too so please no aluminum screws pls

I will also have the 12.3k aluminum factory

Nuclear screws when

[ivory condor]

ficsonium screws

[hard ivy]

my mod adds a "bolted singularity cell" alt. that's the closest to nuclear screws I have

[white dawn]

Okay gods, I don't think I've got the patience to actually test out a 1000-car train. :D

[wise junco]

Why not!?

[tawdry plank]

a bolted singularity cell sounds like something i dont wanna deal with

[white dawn]

I suppose I could fudge some stuff with SCIM, at least

[hard ivy]

especially 1000 full cars

[tawdry plank]

how long would that take to unload...

[celest lichen]

i rounded to last 300 but dont tell anyone

it will be alchemically converted to uranium later on

[tawdry plank]

🤐

[hard ivy]

27 seconds on a 1000 platform station

[tawdry plank]

im still planning to have all aluminum cooked soon tho

[white dawn]

Yeah, I was thinking that I'd need some platforms after all to make sure the test had some proper weight

[ivory condor]

Good luck building that train station to start with

[tawdry plank]

that is.. not as long as epected

[celest lichen]

12.000 aluminium ingots make 336.000 scres via 10.000 assemblers

fun side project

[white dawn]

I wouldn't go all full, 'cause that's not "realistic." For whatever the hell "realistic" would mean in a scenario lkike this. :D

[tawdry plank]

disclaimer i wont eat those

[tawdry plank]

realism isnt really a thing past phase 3

[ivory condor]

You know even with a train station covering the entire map i don't know if you could upload 1000 freight cars👀

[white dawn]

Heh, yeah, I suppose that's true; would need a straight line, eh?

1k freight cars would be 16km. :D

[ivory condor]

Yep why i think anybody that tries is doomed

[white dawn]

Honestly that gives me hope, though! 1k was seemingly insurmountable, but I could possibly at least try "max stations." :D

[hard ivy]

the longest diagonal has ~10 km iirc

[tawdry plank]

what is the best item transporting method and why is it the factory cart?

[ivory condor]

A train station covering the entire map

[white dawn]

Yeah, 9.6ish, it seems

So that's 600 freight cars, at least!

I think I can live with that.

[wise junco]

600 isn't enough

[shy mulch]

Finally finished my power build, slightly overshot my goal of 1 TW but I'm satisfied. Next task is to make it look nice 😄 #screenshots

[tawdry plank]

that's 600 more than my max

[onyx fern]

How exactly does Satisfactory Tools work? I was trying to plan a factory that used all of the available resources I had in an area, and it gave me an actual output. Though I then went through and selected every alternate recipe I have that could be useful, and it said it couldn't calculate a result.

Isn't it supposed to figure out where alternate recipes can be used, if possible? Or is it actually trying to create a factory with all of the recipes? I am using the maximize mode.

[tawdry plank]

I cant help with that as i use modeler

can someone help with that one\

[shy mulch]

Choose items per minute, not maximise

[tawdry plank]

at most i use tools to just have a rough idea of what i need'

[hard ivy]

1. don't use maximize mode without knowing how it works. it's dumb
2. if it can't calculate the result, you have something disabled that it needs. enable everything, then disable everything you don't like

[white dawn]

Though (one of) the amusing repercussions of trying a 9.6km-long train station is that your only real option for an A->B route would be to loop around immediately and deliver all the material to like 20m away. :D

[ivory condor]

Well yes but the tool isn't 100% perfect, I think maximize still has some bugs in it

[white dawn]

Oh actually I suppose that's slightly wrong. It'd be absurd at the very middle of the train because those materials would be going directly next to each other, but at least the far ends are swapping ends of the map

[onyx fern]

I know. I wanted to use maximize to know how many are actually possible, and then find a number that works. I'm planning on computers, supercomputers, and adaptive control units, and I wanted 2 of each.

Without any alternate recipes, it says that's possible. I just find it hard to believe alternate recipes wouldn't help.

[wise junco]

question:

is the 9.6km just the non-death area? or is it the buildable area?

[white dawn]

Heh, I was measuring from death border, but yeah, I suppose you could SCIM yourself more stations outside of that

[onyx fern]

This seems like a really tough way of doing it, since I should only need to enable the recipes I have. Maybe I'm just not getting it though?

[wise junco]

nope, doing it live. lots of medical inhalers

[ivory condor]

I think the problem is maximize is trying to make the most of a item, but the solver has a hard time especially with multiple products

[last tartan]

am I the only one terrified of those giant green spider things

[wise junco]

we all are

[white dawn]

In the end it's because "maximize" does not work the way you'd expect with multiple outputs. It tries to get equal amounts of each (since it has no way of knowing what ratio of output resources you want), and things can get weird.