satisfactory

[undone kestrel]

I am talking about power and water

[mortal ginkgo]

Love is infinite. ❤️

[viral tendon]

To lizard doggos ❤️

[placid stirrup]

My man.

[undone kestrel]

In the mathematical description of the word, sure. In everyday (and philisophical) use there is no difference between having so much of something that it is literally impossible to use it all and it being called infinite

[vapid zephyr]

Sorry wrong part. You are practically right about power and water.

[placid stirrup]

Anyways, we kind of got carried away here. All I'm saying is alloy is as viable as pure alt, they're both situational and preferential. I use both in different places. 1800 hrs in game if that matters

[mortal ginkgo]

You are fighting a war that you don't need to win. 😛

[vapid zephyr]

I just use Pure because i hate fish and want to drain the ocean.

[undone kestrel]

I'm not fighting anything, you all just take things far to literally 🤣

[viral tendon]

Just say shit load

[placid stirrup]

They're in uni still, fired up and not as cynical

[mortal ginkgo]

you are using a literal word, wrong. I mean, we can't say "right" to something "wrong".

[viral tendon]

How am i supposed to take infinite less literally 😭

It's like infinite

[mortal ginkgo]

This explains EVERYTHING.

[undone kestrel]

Because in everyday language the word infinite is used to mean a lot of something

And in this context, there is a physical impossibility to use up the entirity of the maps water so for all intents and purposes, it may as well be infinite

[viral tendon]

Don't want to be a party pooper but i genuinely never seen anyone say infinte as in shit load

[placid stirrup]

I think what they meant is "more than one will be able to use" which is indeed correct in this context

[mortal ginkgo]

In my 37 years time, the only time I heard the term is when Arabic language refers "possible infinite" by using number 7.

I didn't hear from anywhere else where people uses "infinite" when meaning something is "a lot".

Listen, it is ok to be wrong.

[viral tendon]

Welp i'm so sorry to break it down to you but it's possible to use all water in the map...?

Just underclock it

[undone kestrel]

Maybe it's a cultural thing because I hear it all the time 🙂

[viral tendon]

And you will use every single m^3 of water on the map

[vapid zephyr]

Just curious, at what point would someone declare something infinite.

[placid stirrup]

Check satisfactory tools and let me know the default number for the available water on the map please

[mortal ginkgo]

ur mom is infinite

[viral tendon]

Underclock ??

[vapid zephyr]

How much needs to be there of something to be called infinite

[viral tendon]

Infinite, unlimted

[placid stirrup]

Irrelevant to the discussion

[undone kestrel]

But then you aren't using all the water on the map, you are just using all the available space 😉

[viral tendon]

How is this irrelevant

[mortal ginkgo]

your university might be unique 😛

[undone kestrel]

Perhaps. However I do also exist outside of a university context so there is that

[placid stirrup]

Finlzz's message above

[vapid zephyr]

Okay but the issue is that nothing is technically unlimited/infinite.

[viral tendon]

Water is just like nodes, if you don't use literally every resource/m you can't say you used everything

You can't have excessive output to say that right?

[mortal ginkgo]

I wonder if there is a madman out there that put water extractors in all possible zones.

[viral tendon]

Yeah

There's nothing infinite if you think about it deeply

[undone kestrel]

In mathematics infinity is very much a real thing

[viral tendon]

Atleast we dn't know about it yet...

[placid stirrup]

I would venture to say the object limit would be reached before they finish

[vapid zephyr]

So for us humans to say something is infinite means there is a cutoff point.

[placid stirrup]

You guys aren't listening. Leon already established that love is infinite

[vapid zephyr]

That is very true but i would like to keep it to the physical world. Mathematics has a lot of kinds of infinite.

[mortal ginkgo]

Pipe annoyances are infinite in this game. Fayt me irl bro

[undone kestrel]

In it's literal definition infinity is a quantity that grows beyong any finite number - nothing in the physical world will every be infinite

[mortal ginkgo]

So that makes power... not infinite

[viral tendon]

We don't know about anything except milky ray

[undone kestrel]

However to go back to my point earlier, the universe is often described as "infinitely large" because of its shear scale and no matter how advanced we get it will never be fully explored

[viral tendon]

Like further than milky way

And also not fully

[undone kestrel]

Except we do

[placid stirrup]

Why are you talking about your milky ray?

[viral tendon]

And what?

[mortal ginkgo]

There are catgirls at the edge of our universe. I can confirm. 100%.

[viral tendon]

I mean yeah we do know that there are black holes that are outside milky way

[vapid zephyr]

The milky way has already been decently mapped. it's outside that is going to be an issue.

[placid stirrup]

uWu

[viral tendon]

But we don't know like A LOT

[mortal ginkgo]

exactly, brotherman

[placid stirrup]

Something, something, extraction rate...

[sour pilot]

my favorite resource node is infinite

[viral tendon]

It's really not technicallyt

[brittle rapids]

Hello everyone, does someone know if u can change the amount of Stacks the Dimensional Storage can have? (not researching) like any mod or changing gamefiles.

[viral tendon]

Because if you say it's infinite then no

Because one day the servers of the game will be shut down

[ivory condor]

I wonder how much play styles would change if resources nodes ran out

[viral tendon]

And even if you have a copy of the game the sun is just gonna fucking explode and no node

[viral tendon]

The game would be impossible to beat

[mortal ginkgo]

Sun is a bro, it would never explode

[sour pilot]

no

[viral tendon]

Atleast before we go extinct lmao

[placid stirrup]

Sun owes me money actually, not very chill of it

[vapid zephyr]

If you have maxed mam then i would look into mods.

[mortal ginkgo]

Sun is hot, thats why. deepest lore bro

[viral tendon]

Humanity will probably die because of endless wars before the heat death of universe

And if we don't then we will figure something ouit

Like move the planet

[mortal ginkgo]

Humanity will go extinct because males are not going after the real females but AI.

[sour pilot]

but every depot upload speed is independent, so you can increase it by building multiple depots for the same item

[mortal ginkgo]

I mean, I can't blame men in my country

[brittle rapids]

i already looked for some but there are only normal storage containers but not for dimensional

[placid stirrup]

@silk ocean look what you started

[mortal ginkgo]

@silk ocean good job mate

[placid stirrup]

Bang up job

[mortal ginkgo]

I did not fact check but Tsunami is on to something.

[vapid zephyr]

https://ficsit.app/mod/AlmostUnlimitedDimensionalDepot

[mortal ginkgo]

@silk ocean keep it up bro like God damn

[brittle rapids]

I love u

[placid stirrup]

I'm usually onto nothing so I wouldn't trust me

[vapid zephyr]

https://ficsit.app/mod/CUwb555ntTPEZF
If you want it to be more of a balance

[brittle rapids]

if i want to use this in a Multiplayer world does my friend need to install it aswell?

[mortal ginkgo]

I think this goes for all mods

[vapid zephyr]

I have not used this one for multiplayer but i think so

[silk rose]

how do i brute force alts do i save before scan or before scan confirm

[placid stirrup]

Collect more drives. You can get to a point where there are no more unlockable alts if you keep the options available

[reef basin]

do you want to find specific one or do you want to find them all?

[silk rose]

i have life

[silk rose]

specific one

[placid stirrup]

Good for you bro

[shy mulch]

life is not required, pioneers are expendable, efficiency is key

[foggy heart]

anyone got a good modular frame blueprint?

[shy mulch]

you definitely don't want my modular frame factory hahaha

I did the maths wrong and accidentally made like 150/min then realised there was no reason to have anywhere near that many

but I just left it up just in case

[stray thicket]

whaha you'll need it endgame

[shy mulch]

I finished long ago. I just build more and more now, but still nowhere near needing that many frames

[stray thicket]

Scale up more then

seems like a skill issue to me smh

[shy mulch]

weird take but ok

[sharp sentinel]

I haven't played in a bit. The issue with my aluminum factory threw me off my forward progression and derailed my wherewithal to persist for a bit. I need to work myself back in, and setup a new and even better aluminum facility...

[shy mulch]

I'd love to know what you think I should use 150 modular frames / min on

[hasty cradle]

Plutonium fuel rods

Thats about it

[shy mulch]

Got wasteless power set up elsewhere, frames for that are produced on-site

[hard ivy]

HMFs

[sharp sentinel]

I'm considering trying to achieve a good aluminum facility in the cliffs between Rocky Desert and the beaches.

[stray thicket]

There's always smth

and if there isn't, there are always tickets

[shy mulch]

408 sink points, won't even touch the sides, not worth bothering lol

every 40 minutes they'd give me the same points as 1 BWD haha

[steady hemlock]

guys, alternative steel rotor or dioluted packaged fuel??

[pallid arrow]

When we're doing auto connect with pipes / belts, is it possible to have them connect straight insted of curved? (blueprints)

[steady hemlock]

press r

to swap the build mode

[pallid arrow]

That just changes blueprints build mode, not the belt/pipe style

[steady hemlock]

no

so click the pipe

make it bluetake it where you want it to go

without placing it, still blue. press r then

[loud leaf]

i am building a base but right underneath theres that girrafe creature. If i get him up to my base will he stay there after i reload the save or will he go back to where he spawns?

[pallid arrow]

No idea what im doing wrong, its just changing between defaul, auto connect and blueprint.

[steady hemlock]

it take a while but you can kill it

[loud leaf]

i want to keep him in my base

will he stay or despawn?

[shy mulch]

not much you can do to contain them, they wander around randomly and can move through buildings, walls and scenery and sometimes just vanish completely

[reef basin]

do you want to get others as well, or just one?

[placid stirrup]

The pro gamer move is placing a foundation or equal right where they load in

[shy mulch]

they spawn in specific coordinates?

[viral tendon]

I love my nuclear power plant

[placid stirrup]

No, but there's sometimes a delay before their model is loaded in and if you place something inside of that location it gets REAL weird

[ruby steppe]

why does it have to be so hard... i simply want to make blueprint where assemblers in line auto connect but no... bottom input has to be difficult... top one somehow autoconnect with one belt hanging out on one side but bottom splitter doesnt want to autocconet...

[shy mulch]

Can you milk them?

[placid stirrup]

bonk

[viral tendon]

Nuclear power is really a game changer

[modest quarry]

Does anyone have tips on expanding my coal power plant? i can provide screenshare in a vc or screenshots

[unkempt blade]

I usually build it in chunks of 8 gens and 3 water extractors so it lines up easy with the mk2 conveyor, not sure I have much advice beyond that

you having an specific difficulties with coal power?

[modest quarry]

I understand that ratio but i dont know how to expand it. Will a single mk2 belt fed by 2 pure coal noads feed 16?

[unkempt blade]

A mk2 conveyor is going to cap your miner output at 120/min which can only handle 8. If you get the mk3 belt or use another coal node you could do 16

[reef basin]

don't expand, build it again, repeat the module 🙂

[modest quarry]

Ive got two power plants at the moment but one of them is having water supply issues 😭

I hate pipes

[quiet oar]

hypertubes seem underwhelmingly slow, is there a faster way of travel?

[willow dawn]

You can loop them

[quiet oar]

does it make it faster?

[willow dawn]

Check on youtube there are a lot of vids about super charging them

[willow dawn]

MUCH faster

[shy mulch]

or portals

[quiet oar]

what phase is portals

[willow dawn]

I am guessing they are not there yet

[shy mulch]

or my personal favourite at the moment (I change my mind a lot) is to run along a mk6 belt to get a good horizontal speed then take off with ionized fuel jetpack

can get across a biome in one jump like that

[willow dawn]

These are all great tips I'm sure but pretty useless to somebody who isn't at that stage yet 😉

[shy mulch]

fair

at the point where you unlock tubes though, they are the fastest way around

unless you want to link them up to make them faster, I do that myself, but some people consider it not in the spirit of the game as it almost feels too good

it'll never get removed cos loads of people love doing it, but I can't believe it was intentionally possible at first

[willow dawn]

I don't know, it kinda made sense though it does come to a silly point

The other day though people said they only ever used it as a cannon but I realize that might just have been the people who were in chat at the time

[shy mulch]

yeah a line of 10 can easily get you anywhere in the world, some people like doing 20 or more just to be silly

[ripe elm]

whats the best way to get every item that you need to build

[willow dawn]

I just got from an alternative recipe ''+6 inventory slots'' is that good?

[willow dawn]

build factories for them? 😂

Sorry I don't understand the question

[shy mulch]

Are you asking for a walkthrough for the entire game? I don't understand what you want lol

[ripe elm]

yeah like everything you need to craft all the machines i want all those stuff automated so i can just built factorys that i like

for now from iron plated to computers

[shy mulch]

build factories that automate all those parts then?

[ripe elm]

should i like make 1 big factory for it or different ones

[willow dawn]

I think you might be underestimating the complexity of the game

[shy mulch]

depends if you enjoy logistics, if it's just for building supplies there's not much need to pull it all together in 1 place

[willow dawn]

And the amount and different kinds of resources needed

[ripe elm]

what do you mean exactly

[shy mulch]

what phase are you at?

[ripe elm]

i think 3

[reef basin]

as with anything else, it depends on what you like

some people just use dimensional depots and therefore don't need extra space
some people like full inventory of crap and would kill for extra slots

but you can get all recipes (including the inventory slots) anyway, so just pick whatever you like

[willow dawn]

Well for instance, you need plastic for computers (as well as many other things) which requires oil

[shy mulch]

the game is a LOT more complex than anything you've seen so far then

[ripe elm]

i got a whole setup for rubber and plastic

[leaden ether]

For first playthrough you mainly just peel off a small % of your normal factory lines as you go. BUt for subsequent playthroughths I initially build a factory for al the basic materials. THough that onl;y goes so far as a lot of later materials require more complex factories and you are better off going back to just using a small % of normal factory production to save items for building again.

[steady hemlock]

hey, should i get alternative steel rotor or diluted packaged fuel??

[quiet gust]

Dpf

[steady hemlock]

alrighty

[quiet gust]

Both are good

[steady hemlock]

ik that why im asking

[ripe elm]

why

[reef basin]

or just have independent production for storage

[steady hemlock]

im split between both

[quiet gust]

Dpf is one of the best for power tho

[reef basin]

pick any that you like

you can get all recipes anyway

[steady hemlock]

like both :(

ill go dpf bc i need more energy :)

[reef basin]

pick one, find more HDDs

[ripe elm]

is not that i dont understand how to buitl and stuff but i feel like there is a best way to play the game

[shy mulch]

why what? the game is complex, and you haven't seen most of it. are you asking why the developers added more things?

[quiet gust]

Combo it with the alt heavy oil residue and you get super good mid game power

[willow dawn]

I think that differs between people

[leaden ether]

THat's like building almost every factory in the game (though smaller). As I said (IMHO) that becomes less efficient than just building your normal factories and DDing a small bit of the output as you go.

[shy mulch]

there isn't any "best" way, the whole point of the game is that it gives you a huge amount of freedom to do things how you want to do them

[reef basin]

there's no "walkthrough", because there's no single way to play the game

[reef basin]

it is same efficient as any other factory

[quiet gust]

No

[stray thicket]

#screenshots message What happened here lol

[willow dawn]

There is a guided playthrough from TotalEclipse I have been using to get back into this game since not having played it for years

I enjoy his way of building

[shy mulch]

timewarp grass

[reef basin]

there isn't a single best way to play the game, the game is heavily balanced around giving you options and letting you pick your own strategy

[leaden ether]

Except you end up building them twice that way (one small one big) I mean I get where you are coming from. If you don't want to play with the "No Cost" option, and you want to go big from the start, the game pretty much requires you to build practically the entire production chain just to get you to the point where you can build you REAL factories from the ground up all over again.

[reef basin]

no, for same output you build same amount of machines

[shy mulch]

the best way is to build a 100 kilomegawatt power facility then produce 108M ballistic warp drives per millihour

[leaden ether]

The Mk6 Belts and lifts and Mk3 miners being the biggest sticky wickets for early high production factories

[reef basin]

and it's perfectly fine to build factories earlier

later if you really want to, you just upgrade the miner and split excess from the miner, but it's the same as finding a new node elsewhere

[ripe elm]

Yeah but i find that hard

[pearl summit]

What would you guys say is the best rubber recipe?

[leaden ether]

HOR/Diluted Fuel/Recycled rubber/plastic

[pastel carbon]

If you want maximum rubber for your oil, look at the diluted fuel and recycled rubber loop

[pearl summit]

Gotcha, will have a look and fiddle around, thanks!

[quiet gust]

I can send you a screenshot of the loops

[silk ocean]

20,146 MW for an overclocked slooped particle accelerator xD

[quiet gust]

What recipe

[silk ocean]

Pasta

[quiet gust]

How much pasta does you need

[silk ocean]

100 xD

Just running it fast 😄

I'll take the sloops and overclock out once Phase 4 requirements done

I can't produce enough Copper Powder to keep up tho

[quiet gust]

I see

[quiet gust]

I mean how much per minute are you planning on automating

[silk ocean]

That gives about 2.5 Nuclear Pasta per min, for the two Particle Accelerators

If it's not needed after Phase 4 I'll just shut them down after storage is full I guess

[reef basin]

I mean other people can hardly tell you how to play the game if they don't know how you want to play the game 🙂

[tidal epoch]

i dont see a point in using lookout tower

it did nothing in my case

[silk ocean]

They have limited use xD

[leaden ether]

I used it for taking pictures early on if there was no high land mass nearby. That was about it. Maybe as decoration?

[silk ocean]

Yea they look kinda cool, like the radar towers. Once you have the hoverpack they aren't all that much use

[pearl summit]

Please, if it is not too much ask 😊

[quiet gust]

In #math-and-meta

[pearl summit]

Thanks buddy!

[undone lichen]

Maybe to safely throw nobelisks or shoot rebars at hogs but that's a pretty niche use

[pearl summit]

Is there a way of seeing how many alternate recipes are left?

[shy mulch]

count how many you have and subtract that from 106

[silk ocean]

Load your save into SCIM and go to the Research / Alternate Recipes list

[steel atlas]

Does it matter if I play on Steam or Epic?

[clever fossil]

No, but if you have friends palying on Epic while you're on Steam, it would only be possible with an Epic account, unfortunately

[reef basin]

no

[clever fossil]

no?

[steel atlas]

oh so the game is not cross platform?

[reef basin]

not at all

[silk ocean]

Would that affect a dedicated server?

[reef basin]

it is, you can easily play between steam and epic

[steel atlas]

oh, so if I have the game on epic, no need to have it on steam

[reef basin]

yeah

[steel atlas]

thanks man

[clever fossil]

what's the difference of making an epic account via Steam, besides that not being necessary to have when you play with friends who are on Steam?

[steel atlas]

I have it on epic but I'll buy it on steam just for achievements

[haughty flax]

caterium wire alt recipe is super nice, feels like caterium in general doesnt have much use but im only on phase 4 so far

[silk ocean]

Quickwire has a lot of use xD

[steel atlas]

So the game can be modded now? there are mods?

[leaden ether]

So modded...

[clever fossil]

don't you need an epic account on Steam if you're trying to play with someone on who is on Epic?

[haughty flax]

oh definitely, but im making a full mk5 belt of wire with only what 6 constructors non-boosted, then i have a full belt of mk5 quickwire as well, all from 1 node

[steel atlas]

I remember there was a guy teaching basics of having the first factory going on on youtube videos

Anyone remember his name?

[reef basin]

no

[silk ocean]

The game uses direct connect IP to a dedicated server, I don't think it matters how the client is run (correct me if wrong on that), it doesn't use Steam/Epic multiplayer stuff as far as I am aware

[lament niche]

yes

[clever fossil]

I remember my brother and I had difficulty's joining each other because we had this game on different platforms

[lament niche]

You need an epic account JUST to connect to Epic Online Services my guy

[clever fossil]

yeah, we needed to be logged in to an Epic account for me to access his session or him to mine.

[silk ocean]

I don't use Steam or Epic Online Services to connect to my local Linux server, I just entered the IP address

[reef basin]

you can play via session ID

or via IP indeed

[clever fossil]

i'm not referring to dedicated servers, but yeah

[reef basin]

well IP is not limited to dedi servers

[clever fossil]

lan and whatnot

[lament niche]

who wants to tell this man about regular servers

[clever fossil]

pretty much

[reef basin]

afaik session ID works cross-platform

wiki seems to agree with that

[astral blaze]

so wait where do i ask people too start a world with me i have abt 72 hours and a return phase

[lament niche]

I always love when someone argues with people with actual experience in this topic

[silk ocean]

Run a proper dedicated server xD

[open pollen]

#1201555265942724758

[astral blaze]

thanks

[reef basin]

because wiki isn't written by people with actual experience

Every online session has a set Session ID. Anyone who has access to this ID can join the session, as long as its privacy is set to Friends Only (despite the name, neither user does actually have to be in each other's friend list on either Epic or Steam).
(...)
The host of the session can then share this Session ID for both Epic and Steam players to be able to join the session.

[lament niche]

"my two minutes of research trumps your three years of experience"

[reef basin]

go correct the wiki then and don't complain here

[lament niche]

I'm correcting you because you're parroting incorrect info. You don't even play the game.

[reef basin]

what's incorrect on the quote above?

[stuck oak]

man, my brain is not big enough to manifold properly

[reef basin]

because that's what I've heard here all the time

[open pollen]

Manifold is not that complicated imo. What are you having trouble with exactly?

[lament niche]

As someone who routinely hosts community saves:

You absolutely need a Epic account to join via session ID.

Otherwise you need to be steam friends.

[stuck oak]

conveyor speeds mostly

[reef basin]

I didn't need it last time 🤷

[shy mulch]

Sounds like the wiki needs updated then

[shy mulch]

use the fastest you have for everything, no need to complicate it

[silk ocean]

I never knew about any of this, I've always just run a dedicated server and connected by IP, none of this ID stuff

[stuck oak]

i only have mk2's :(

[open pollen]

Just make sure you don’t try to stuff more objects on the belt than it can handle and you are all good. If you have too much stuff put it on a different belt line

[lament niche]

Yeah, it doesn't even let you join via session ID if you don't have an epic account.

Which btw, is free

[shy mulch]

I don't play co-op, I'm solo only, so I have no side in this. Just saying you clearly have a lot of experience with this, and what you're saying directly contradicts the wiki, so it would be a good idea for you to update the wiki

[stuck oak]

yeah thats my issue lol I'm trying to make it all fit right but when i do the math it almost makes more sense to just load balance since i'm pretty much just limited by conveyor speed

[reef basin]

then do manifolds of 120 max

if you need more than 120, do multiple manifolds

[lament niche]

I'm aware

[stuck oak]

thats the part where my brain shuts down

[open pollen]

Load balancing would not change your belt max capacity

[clever fossil]

industrial storage ftw

[open pollen]

Just put the items from the machines on a different conveyors once you max out the items on one conveyor

[stuck oak]

yeah i get the idea in concept, just having trouble laying it out in a non-insane way

[shy mulch]

If you can share your entire production line layout it would help, maybe someone can give you specific advice

[clever fossil]

screenshots can help

[lament niche]

I don't even get load balancing when programmable splitters exist

[open pollen]

Same man

[lament niche]

like why spend 5 hours troubleshooting a load balancer when a PS does the same thing with 1/10th the worry

[reef basin]

if a machine makes X, hook it to a belt that manifolds the X to machines that need X in total. It's super easy

[stuck oak]

i'm only on T2 so I'm probably just trying to do too much at once rn

[open pollen]

Maybe post an image of the problem in #screenshots or go into #1038092680493801533 (with screenshots as well)to get more specific help

[clever fossil]

maybe, but you might be on to something that you'll happen to realize once something's pointed out.

show them what you're doing

[stuck oak]

#screenshots message

[green fiber]

i dont quite get how programmables work around load balancing when they only allow you to select item filters, overflow and such.
Are you talking about sushi or something?

[lament niche]

I never sushi

[green fiber]

ok so the what does the programmable splitter have to do with this then

[lament niche]

everything

[stuck oak]

I've got 3 normal iron nodes with mk1 miners so 180ore/min > 180ingots/min in 6 smelters, but my fastest belt is 120/min

[green fiber]

I could now ask "please elaborate" but im afraid its just gonna be "no"

[clever fossil]

you just gotta work on of those miners without being all in one belt

[shy mulch]

each node feeds 2 smelters, no need to pull it all together onto 1 belt

[clever fossil]

yep, just let each miner work for two iron smelters

[stuck oak]

yeah thats what I was thinking but i was really trying to do a nice one belt manifold instead of load balancing in disguise

[clever fossil]

that will eventually work out when you've got that, but like with every new upgrade, sometimes you'll have to either cut back or change.

[open pollen]

You are trying to do too much at this stage. Also making the belts go for 1 miner per 2 smelters is not load balancing

[stuck oak]

smelters i had sorted tbh, i had 1 miner to 2 smelters and then a mk2 for the other 2 miners to the other 4 smelters

[clever fossil]

oh load balancing, yeah don't do load balancing if you dont find such patterns fun.

[open pollen]

Then what is the problem?

[tidal epoch]

whats the giveitem command? also my enablecheats command not working

[viral tendon]

Fuckass game, i hate the fact that lategame you have to re use nodes because u need so much resources and you claimed almoat anything

[shy mulch]

you can "complete" the game using like 10% of the available resources, there's plenty

[stuck oak]

organizing my constructors properly

[viral tendon]

Everything i meant

[viral tendon]

Im like not transporting them across 5k meters

[clever fossil]

well, that's what I did lmao

[shy mulch]

transportation and logistics is one of the main challenges of the game

[green fiber]

@modest quarry hey do you still like.... need help with your coal plant and pipes

[clever fossil]

It was worth it

[viral tendon]

I love doing like 2k or 3k meters but not literally actoss the map, from one end to other end

[clever fossil]

lack of resources or just seems daunting?

[viral tendon]

What is daunting

[clever fossil]

just doing it, even if it takes you several trips and time to complete the global belt

that's not fun for everyone

was good for me tho

[viral tendon]

Its fun for me but were talking LITERALLY across the whole map

Im deadass when i say across the map

[clever fossil]

I did that.

[twin yarrow]

Hey, I don't know if anyone has a quick/easy solution for this, but i'm trying to play LAN multiplayer with a friend (direct IP), im on 1.1.1.1. Every few minutes, the person connected starts lagging and is kicked from the game.

[viral tendon]

Damn

[clever fossil]

Yeah, I got that lol.

[shy mulch]

sounds like a job for a train network, or some drones

[clever fossil]

If you hate belts, just make railways!

those trains will get there with a crapton of resources

[viral tendon]

I fucking love belta

[twin yarrow]

We disabled auto-save and now the kicks happen every 15-20 minutes instead of every 3 minutes, but it is still weird. Has anyone encountered this?\

[viral tendon]

But not that much

[sly delta]

I have a mk3 belt that's moving items at what looks like the speed of a mk1 belt, is this a known bug ?

[silk ocean]

Rainways are fun but oh boy do they take a long time to build

[stuck oak]

yeah i need a uh...merger/splitter combo lol

[twin yarrow]

Conversly, where can I find crash logs?

Although not really a crash

[silk ocean]

Most of the time spent is building the trunk lines, once they are done splitting off stations doesn't take too long

[viral tendon]

Do they resources move like mk 1 belts or just look like

[twin yarrow]

Also, every time my friend saves the game the person connected is kicked.

[clever fossil]

just make your splitters work for inputting resources, and the output for mergers, right?

[sly delta]

it looks and feels like mk1 speed. The machines I'm sending the resources are all at ~33% production rate

[clever fossil]

but if you're choking up on merging everything o nthe output, don't put it all in one storage for now

[viral tendon]

See if all belts are mk 3, if you have even one mk 1 or mk 2 it fucks up everything

[stuck oak]

is that how to properly align it? storages after each step in a line?

[short pelican]

@sour kestrel

[stuck oak]

like instead of smelter > constructor, smelter > storage > constructor?

[clever fossil]

that's a buffer

[silk ocean]

Hold CTRL

[clever fossil]

that storage would be functioning as a buffer

[sly delta]

that's the strange part, none of them are mk1 and there is no spacing between the items like when you go from mk1 to mk3

[shy mulch]

I'm ordering chinese, anyone want anything while I'm on the phone?

[viral tendon]

Ion knkw

[viral tendon]

Lwmmw get thw thing person before me got

[clever fossil]

your concern is that you're got a lot of things going, and you want to put it all in one belt, but you'll ahve to avoid that until you get a mk3 belt to make that work

[viral tendon]

Word

[sly delta]

aye nvm I did have one mk1 belt somewhere..

[stuck oak]

this is the real answer tbh

[clever fossil]

sweet n sour chicken plz

[viral tendon]

Told ya

[stuck oak]

conveyor overclocking when

[clever fossil]

never lol

but there's probably mods for that

[stuck oak]

eh, i need to suffer first

[clever fossil]

that happens to me sometimes, i feel that lol

[clever fossil]

yeah, and just roll with your limitations, you will have that chance to put stuff in order once you've got the resources.

by that i mean your technologies and milestones

[quiet gust]

Never

It invalidates the system of belt tiers

[bright geyser]

I saw in a patch note that community translators were being asked for - where do I sign up?

[silk ocean]

Everybody wants a multicore 5.95Ghz Conveyor Belt 😉

[clever fossil]

lol

multithreaded for her pleasure

[silk ocean]

Hyperthreaded for that extra payload

[clever fossil]

Now that's satisfactory, guaranteed.

[peak wasp]

So when do they add goats to this game?

[green fiber]

we already have goat

Goat Sim music tapes that is

[quiet gust]

When they add golf

[clever fossil]

goats at home: Spitters firing from all angles

that's the closest youll get to a goat

or a deer. or a pony, or a big pony for those bigger ones. or a camel, cuz they spit

[silk ocean]

Can we have a cannon that fires waste at that frigid looking planet with streaks of lava. It doesn't look inhabited xD

[clever fossil]

my lava people live there.

[peak wasp]

Imagine a expansion for this game that is factorio space age

[silk ocean]

Build a rocket, build factories on different worlds

Logistics Space Network

[clever fossil]

wait... Astroneer

[silk ocean]

Yea lol

[clever fossil]

that is what an ambitious Satisfactory would be

[steel atlas]

Do you guys use any mods? Are there any suggestions, like nothing crazy but thing that makes it more fun or QoL?

[silk ocean]

Not currently on this 1.1 play because I'm hunting achievements

[steel atlas]

Oh mods blocks achivemenets?

[silk ocean]

Yah

[clever fossil]

no

[silk ocean]

Oh

[clever fossil]

only advanced game settings do

AGS for short

[steel atlas]

I thought so, ty

[silk ocean]

I read that mods disable achievements but I am clearly wrong?

[clever fossil]

Bethesda does that

[shy mulch]

don't forget to get the secret achivements, for milking the lizard doggo

[clever fossil]

Halo does that too

[quiet gust]

?

[clever fossil]

I have no idea either lmao

[shy mulch]

if you successfully milk a lizard doggo you get another achivement

[steel atlas]

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25 Eyl 2024 — No, mods won't disable achievements. i used Mods in the past. i have to confirm it every time i load a save. Achievements dont work for me

[silk ocean]

Fair enough xD

[steel atlas]

ficsit or nexus?

[clever fossil]

ficsit, for sure

[silk ocean]

I was surprised that ADA pronounced FICSIT by the letters rather than a word

[clever fossil]

nexus is rather wanting for satisfactory mods

[shy mulch]

They couldn't pronounce it as a word on global covering because ficsit is a rude word in botswana

[silk ocean]

Wow interesting fact! Thanks

[shy mulch]

Would be more interesting if it was true

[silk ocean]

Boo xD

[shy mulch]

I'm having one of those days

Spent an hour earlier convincing someone that Egypt is in Europe

[silk ocean]

It's not a million Mk.5 Belts away xD

[steel atlas]

lol what? did you manage to convince someone to that? coz that's so damn wrong lol

[silk ocean]

Well it's only just a hop over the Eastern Med xD

[shy mulch]

it was on a ragebait post with europeans and americans arguing over nothing, I decided just to wade in face first and stir the pot

[silk ocean]

Alexandria isn't that far from Cyprus/Turkey xD

[steel atlas]

did you manage to convince someone tho? coz I don't think anyone is that stupid lol

[shy mulch]

unfortunately it finished unresolved, I think they figured out I was trolling

[tidal epoch]

my water is going up but then its stopping

[steel atlas]

that's a relief..

[shy mulch]

there are a lot of people like that though

[clever fossil]

check if there's any disconnected pipes by the amount of water flowing through

[steel atlas]

there are ppl believing the earth is flat, what do you expect

[silk ocean]

Explain further?

[open pollen]

Do you mean going up and then stopping in the pipe?

[shy mulch]

usually something isn't perfectly connected, try removing both sides of the pipe (last part with water in it, and first part without water) then place them both again

[tidal epoch]

in which channel can i share a screenshot of it?

[clever fossil]

"screenshots"

[shy mulch]

#screenshots

[silk ocean]

Head Lift perhaps

If you go to the pump, it should show you the Head Lift, might be >20m

[clever fossil]

right, a few things to cover: is the pump facing the right way, and if so, is it positioned anywhere before the headlift stops

[open pollen]

@tidal epoch your pump is way too high up in the screenshot

Also check direction of pump like Noedig says

[twilit geyser]

I hate uobject limits. 😞

[stuck oak]

my utter horror going through the wiki

[tidal epoch]

water is not flowing

[stuck oak]

what is this non-factor-of-60 nonsense

[tidal epoch]

water is in the pipe but not flowing

[open pollen]

Did you put the pump lower

[silk ocean]

Try putting the pump at the bottom

[clever fossil]

@tidal epoch I'm going to test something on my end before i say something but i have a suspicion

[tidal epoch]

the coal generator is on a cliff

[open pollen]

Either put a second pump lower or move the pump

[tidal epoch]

let me try putting the pump in the start

[open pollen]

Pumps don’t speed up liquids, they only provide headlift/height. putting the current pump at the top next to a flat spot does nothing

[clever fossil]

your extractor has soem headlift, but up to 10m

put your pump somewhere before the headlift ends

[open pollen]

In the screenshot they sent they have the pump way above 10 meters

[tidal epoch]

now i put it lower

[clever fossil]

that's why my followup was if the pump was placed anywhere beyond headlift

[silk ocean]

Pump is needed yea, you have 22m of headlift

Should work if the pump is at the bottom, they can do like 50m of headlift I think

[clever fossil]

that's mk1

[silk ocean]

He's Mk.1 from the SS's

[open pollen]

Only mk.2 pipes do 50

[tidal epoch]

So with 1 water extractor i can use 2 coal gens?

[silk ocean]

My bad, what is Mk.1 ?

[clever fossil]

just to clarify, it has 20m headlift

[atomic siren]

How many fuel generators (reg. fuel) can I use w/ 2 pure crude oil nodes and what's a rough setup for them

[tidal epoch]

another question, maybeee a stupid one lol. can i power the coal miner and water pump from coal gen which is connected by both?

[silk ocean]

Yes

[open pollen]

Frankly it depends on the recipes you pick

[leaden ether]

Yes but you need extra power to get them going. You can't self start a coal generator.

[clever fossil]

yes, but you may have to initiate it with a temporary powersource to jump start it

[atomic siren]

w/ normal for now, don't have very much luck for alt recipes haha

[silk ocean]

But generally you want external power because if that loop falls over, you need an external kickstart

[clever fossil]

biomass generators do the trick

[tidal epoch]

got it

[stuck oak]

alright, stitched plates or cast screws, i'm leaning plates just so i dont need more screws, but the cast screws would help alleviate the screw need

[clever fossil]

cast screws

[open pollen]

You may want to use something like Satisfactory Modeler on steam or Satisfactory Tools online

[atomic siren]

for example I had a setup of just biomass generators, I completely disconnected my coal gen setup from it. then you just power coal + water with your existing grid, then start the generators up and eventually connect them @tidal epoch

[atomic siren]

didn't know about those, thx

[clever fossil]

cast screws: take away the extra constructor to make screws, its all the same resource cost to make, and a little faster to produce

[open pollen]

They both are quite different, so I’d recommend trying both out to see what works better for you

They are very useful for planning

[steel atlas]

Grass or Rocky desert for the first timer ?

[clever fossil]

Desert :P

[stuck oak]

i was also dreading the 500m long conveyor to get copper over to my iron area

[naive pendant]

Grass

[silk ocean]

Generally try to avoid power trips, use energy (battery) storage. On a large factory a trip can be a nightmare scenario xD I don't want to imagine how I would restart my factory in that scenario lol

[late heart]

Stitched plates, you can pretty easily remove screws from your lineup altogether

[clever fossil]

Dunes rather, but try the grass

forest is actually really good too though.

[late heart]

You can get another alt to make iron wire

[open pollen]

Tbh it doesn’t really matter since you are likely to spread out to those other areas later

[clever fossil]

that can always happen later if you so choose lol

[open pollen]

I started in the grasslands but now most of my stuff is in the desert lol

[steel atlas]

Ait, thanks all. Do you guys remember the name of the guy on youtube that made videos to teach basics of first factory?

[silk ocean]

At first in the Desert you think, why is this "Advanced", Phases 1/2 are easy, but then resources beyond are quite far away xD

[clever fossil]

sorry i don't. i did all this on my own mostly, and inspired interested by Lets Game it Out

[willow glen]

There’s a few, but I think Doc’s are the most popular

[stuck oak]

oh what the hell

12.5 ingot/min

that is an illegal amount

[quiet gust]

Doc is the only one I know who has tips like that

[stuck oak]

must be whole number factors of 60 or i die

[quiet gust]

Though I don't watch many satisfactory YouTubers

[twilit geyser]

TotalEclipse

[clever fossil]

it feels like it, but if you can research powerslugs, you can clock em down to 10

[stuck oak]

ohhh true, yeah ive got clocking

[quiet gust]

I thought it was TotalXclipse

[silk ocean]

Some stuff is like 18.75/min xD

[quiet gust]

Turbo fuel go brr

[twilit geyser]

i suck at spelling

[silk ocean]

Yah xD

[willow glen]

In cases like that, either use an outside tool or over/underclock to nicer numbers

[tidal epoch]

will i get achievement with using mods?

[quiet gust]

Np, I just wanted to make sure they got the right guy(he spells his name differently)

[clever fossil]

you can, jsut make sure you didnt activate AGS, advanced game settings

mod settings dont count as AGS

[quiet gust]

I need to make like 1800 per minute with the reg recipe and more with turbo blend fuel layer

[tidal epoch]

my initial new game was without the advanced settings enabled but then i added the cheat engine mod to setup the water coal factory and test things out

[clever fossil]

with the power of somersloops, you can make 3600 easy kek

[silk ocean]

I got to a point yesterday where I needed 7.258667 more Fuel Generators to handle the recyc xD

[clever fossil]

basically, 8 generators, with one clocked down

[silk ocean]

Yea xD

[tidal epoch]

now if i continue it shows me this. what do i do? i sent a screenshot

[clever fossil]

or a few if you overclock them, they increase cost/consumption linearly

[silk ocean]

I just wish clocking can be more precise than 1%

[willow glen]

Or alternatively 3 generators clocked at 241.8%

[quiet gust]

I don't have that option, I planed it out I need 34 for Sam, 22 for my nuclear project and 40 for matrixed alien power augmentors

[willow glen]

It is, it allows at least 3 decimal places

[silk ocean]

lol haven't done the math but always a possibility, if you want to burn more power XD

[hard ivy]

4, actually
But no more

[clever fossil]

no worries, i was joking for the absurdity of it

[silk ocean]

omg thanks lol, TIL you can type a percentage 😄

[willow glen]

Fuel generators don’t use power, they make power. So, the opposite is true

[silk ocean]

Oh, true

[quiet gust]

Fair enough. I am doing absurdity though, I'm going to make 3,333.333 ionized fuel per minute

[clever fossil]

they dont eat more resource for more power eithers, hence linearly

[hard ivy]

Unless you're doing it for shits and giggles, or for the DMR from shards, don't

[quiet gust]

Shiggles.

[quiet gust]

And a challenge I have to use all alts in my new save

[clever fossil]

good luck lol, not sure what you're gonna do with it besides keeping some for fun and sinking it

[rocky sierra]

how many computer/min and heavy modular frame/min should i aim for?

[silk ocean]

A project on the list now xD

[hard ivy]

More than 0 and probably less than 1000

[quiet gust]

Power (444.44 over locked power gens)

[rocky sierra]

5/min of each enough or should i go for 10/min

[naive pendant]

5/minute for both

[rocky sierra]

ok thanks

[hard ivy]

Depends what you want exactly, but 3-30 is sensible for personal use by my standards

[quiet gust]

Also if you have a high enough power boost from augmentors (I'm going to have 4 matrixed) it slightly out powers reg rocket fuel

[clever fossil]

there's gonna be some particle accellerators invovled, so make as many of those particle accelleratorsas possible and drastically underclock them.

[warped cypress]

ok guys i need assistance

my demolisher f thing

wont demolish ;-;

[quiet gust]

Nah I'll be fine I did all the stuff in modeler, and I also have a full nuclear plant

[warped cypress]

idk what i did]

[quiet gust]

Or will at least

[clever fossil]

corrected

[hard ivy]

Probably blueprint mode. Press R I think

[warped cypress]

tysm!

[quiet gust]

I'm also going to have a rocket fuel plant

All in the same location as the ionized and turbo fuel plants

[stuck oak]

just when i thought i was a manifolder

turns out im still a manifailure

[clever fossil]

i had this problem too the other week lol i forgot about blueprint mode becuase i dont use blueprints, even though i should

[clever fossil]

lol

[quiet gust]

It's also a steel plant

[clever fossil]

failures a great resource for learning

unless it's fatal, its okay to fail

[stuck oak]

thank god you get 100% back when tearing down

thought i was gettin real smart til i realized i forgot that my outputs are at vastly different speeds than my inputs

[mortal ginkgo]

ficsit does not waste

[clever fossil]

actually, there's gonna be 80% refund for everything for next patch, in order to incentivise better planning ahead.

[quiet gust]

...?

[clever fossil]

roll with it

[quiet gust]

I hate this idea b/c of non renewables potentially being lost

[clever fossil]

good, because I was absolutely making that up

he said the thing about getting 100% stuff back, so somebody had to jinx it for the fun of it

[quiet gust]

I know, mostly because next patch is far out bc of vacation time for devs and consoles being priority

[clever fossil]

lol

[steel atlas]

Okay I need to ask, how hard is it to start on forest instead of grass ?

for first play

[stuck oak]

thats it im turning you into biofuel

[clever fossil]

it isnt spacious, but there's plenty damn good resources around

[quiet gust]

Be prepared to build very tall and narrow with many pure nodes

[steel atlas]

I feel like I like forest better....

[hard ivy]

Imo, all are easier than grasslands in the long run.

Grasslands are only easy in the beginning. Which might be a good idea for your first run, but probably isn't for next ones

Either way, don't get attached to your starting location. You'll need to expand out of it anyway

[quiet gust]

I've started in every biome, I think rocky dessert and forest is best

[steel atlas]

How bad can it be.. I'll start on forest.

[clever fossil]

or, do like I did, and do get attached to the area you're based on, and brign every other resource for several kilometers around to that base to make everthing there!

there was quite abit of spaghetti involved

[quiet gust]

Not for really really large factories

[clever fossil]

you don't understand, it is all there, in the sky platform in the dunes

i bring everything there

[quiet gust]

I mean the amount of lag

The game has a heart attack at some point

[clever fossil]

yeah, lol

but i finished project assembly, somehow

dont get me wrong, most of my power sources are else where, but my productions were at the Dune lol

how else was I gonna get it all done without my rocket fuel generators

[shy mulch]

rocket fuelllllllll

[mortal ginkgo]

ew.

[fleet adder]

we should implement where we can connect 2 wires off of machines

[tidal epoch]

forest best

[clear aspen]

Andor is peak

[warped cypress]

how do i get off my tractor?

[shy mulch]

no need to dismantle stuff, just leave what you already have, and go build the new stuff if you want

[shy mulch]

there's probably mods for that

[warped cypress]

pls ;-;

esc not doing it lol

nope

[clever fossil]

oh, e

[warped cypress]

ohhh

ty

[clever fossil]

try e, i might be wrong

[warped cypress]

its right tysm

[clever fossil]

cool, i stil lremember riding vehicles lol

[lean ferry]

shuld I make like tech factory

where I only make computer, circuit, ai limiter and high speed connectors

[willow dawn]

If you happen to have the resources you need nearby, or can get them there easily

[clever fossil]

if thats how you want to organize your manufacturing, yeah

[clever fossil]

distance is subjective

[willow dawn]

True

[clever fossil]

but it is convenient if theyre all close by, i dont really know an area to recommend though

[lean ferry]

acu are a pain to make tho

this is seperate topic mb

[clever fossil]

for sure, theyre a pain without alternate recipes

[willow dawn]

I have once again fallen for the trap of choosing a spot that is honestly too small for what I am trying to do

[clever fossil]

put it all in the sky!

Be a sky scraper

[willow dawn]

Oooh actually I keep forgetting I can just build up!

[lean ferry]

imagine terraforming in satisfactory

that should be a mod/update

I play too much astrroneer

[clever fossil]

there would be a lot of it, actually

with the amoutn of stuff getting extracted, and the emissions from coal and fuel

[lean ferry]

btw

[clever fossil]

and whatever those alien technologies do

[lean ferry]

any youtuber u would recommend for good architecture

cuz im tryna start modular factories

[clever fossil]

Lets Game It Out?

[mortal ginkgo]

brotherman

[clever fossil]

hahaha

[lean ferry]

however I just realised if im gonna do a tech im gonna have to use trains- do u think they r reliable? ( I can start with a buffer)

cuz one of them ( I forgor which) needs plastic

all others are fine but oil is a pain

[clever fossil]

very reliable

[lean ferry]

will it work with a buffer

or do I need to overclock production

[clever fossil]

just set up your tracks carefully if you're using multiple trains

[lean ferry]

to account for time taken

[late heart]

He offers good absurdist architecture

[lean ferry]

so yes or no

like lets say im making a factory that needs 10 a min, its being train transport and its making 10 a min, do i need to overclock the 1st factory so it can make more to accoutn for time

[late heart]

Og

[lean ferry]

or can I just put crate as a buffer, throw in a few stacks

[clever fossil]

It's usually good if your train is delivering faster than the depot getting dried up

[late heart]

I thought you were meaning like beautification

Not factory design

[lean ferry]

yes thats what I need to check

[lean ferry]

I move topics too quickly sorry

factory design

[late heart]

Gotcha, then not game it out

[clever fossil]

i dont recommend LGIO unless you love chaos lol

nonetheless, the chaos he created took a lot of effort

[atomic siren]

anyone got a design/can give me an idea of one for a fuel-based power system with 2 pure oil nodes?

I just got mk2 pipes

[clever fossil]

what tier you at?

[atomic siren]

5-6

Missing logistics mk4, and train stuff + blueprints mk2

so I have everything needed for a basic setup i think

[lean ferry]

u got coal and sulfur?

[hard ivy]

40 GW:
https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=pmu44FjR6PzixRC6Kl4l

[clever fossil]

i recommend getting mk4 belt for this idea i have in mind

[lean ferry]

if u have coal and sulfur do turbofuel

turbofuel is WAY better

[atomic siren]

uhh somewhat yea

[hard ivy]

Nah. It's very much a sidegrade to fuel

[lean ferry]

wb rocket fuel

but that needs photonic

[hard ivy]

That's tier 8

[silk ocean]

Just completed phase 4... 5 looks... daunting XD

[lean ferry]

wait I forgot lemme check

ok wait u cantt do rocket

[clever fossil]

blender

[hard ivy]

That's ionized and tier 9 and terrible

[clever fossil]

anyway, theyre at 5-6 tier

mk4 belt is a good idea to get

[lean ferry]

yh I realized mb

let me give you a tip

[clever fossil]

i ncase you get a lot of waste for this process

namely polymer residue

[lean ferry]

if you can find a sam node, u can farm sam stuff

[hard ivy]

For a fuel plant? Not useful in any way

[lean ferry]

and then do bunch of research and upg in mam

u can get something VERY helpful for building

[clever fossil]

yes it is, if you're making heavy oil residue

[atomic siren]

i can do turbofuel will js have to belt like 200m which is fine

[lean ferry]

i wont say for spoilers tell me if u want me to

[real iris]

whats the most efficent fuel for drones?

[hard ivy]

Mk4 belts? Nah, just add a 3rd sink

[hard ivy]

Plutonium fuel rods

[clever fossil]

ficsonium, but practically, rocket fuel

[hard ivy]

Ficsonium doesn't go in drones
Unfortunately

[atomic siren]

what is it

[clever fossil]

oh they dont

[lean ferry]

dimensional depot

fuel? wait im so stupid

[atomic siren]

already got it

[real iris]

worth to use them for drones?

[lean ferry]

u can upg it and connect it to a factory

and then u never needa refill for conveyors

like no more trips back for encased beams

[atomic siren]

I assume theres kinda a smallish limit to what u can have in it tho?

[lean ferry]

no you can upg it

[clever fossil]

they last a reaaaaaaaaaaaally long time and it wont turn into waste once it expires

[lean ferry]

like up to 1k i think?

[hard ivy]

Fastest speed and last insanely long. If you have a nuke plant, very good.

If you don't, and don't plan to build one, packaged rocket fuel is probably best

[clever fossil]

unlike reactors

[lean ferry]

and 240/m upload

[calm thorn]

i got the game today and played 2 hours so far, unlocked the map and made my first supply circuits, now i would like to understand like should i keep developing the hub or explore the map to find a better spot and restart it? i would prefer a flatter area

[atomic siren]

oh shoot alr ill invest in that fs this is on a co-op so my friend unlocked it a bit ago

[lean ferry]

when maxed

[real iris]

are nuke plants not good?

[lean ferry]

i dont think max matters as long as u have a good upload

BTW IS FICSONIUM RADIATIVE? ( i think thats how u say it)

[hard ivy]

Uranium and plutonium are fine, just complicated compared to rocket fuel

[atomic siren]

is programmable splitter worth it? kinda want one for this purpose

cuz i dont wanna flood my dimensional depot with one thing

[clever fossil]

if you happen to have alternate recipes for heavy oil residue, i recommend having that on hand

[hard ivy]

You need separate uploaders for each unique item

[atomic siren]

i dont lol my alt recipes always suck

[lean ferry]

I think its universal

[hushed condor]

do yall think ingame voice chat is a good idea? ☑️ 🇽

[real iris]

where can i unlock rocket fuel?

[clever fossil]

just saying, it yields more fuel in the process

[hard ivy]

MAM sulfur tree

[atomic siren]

nah I meant to not upload all of my output from a factory

[real iris]

ty sir

[hard ivy]

Limit is 5 stacks. When upgraded. After that, it stops until you take out some

[atomic siren]

alr thanks

[lean ferry]

wen I mean universal, it has seperate stacks in ur inventory

u dont need bro who told u that

I put iron ingot and copper ingot in same 1

as long as upload rate can be sufficient ur fine

[clever fossil]

or, put up multiple depots

[lean ferry]

if it isnt it will back up but it will still work

[lean ferry]

yea also that

[clever fossil]

they'll all upload faster with more depots

but thats a factor for adventure to get a lot of spheres lol

[atomic siren]

so u upgrade it one at a time?

or is it a universal upgrade

[clever fossil]

the dimensional depot is useful for personal use

you cant automate with it

[atomic siren]

also so it is worth using turbofuel? I have sulfur + coal ~200-300m from my oil

[elder apex]

the DD upgrades apply to all existing and future depots

[clever fossil]

that too

[reef basin]

worth depends just on you

do you need the sulfur? if not, you can add it to make more power

[atomic siren]

idc about sulfur, there are like 3 nodes next to each other so I don't mind using it

[reef basin]

then go for it (if you want) 🙂

[clever fossil]

wanna know something ahead of your tier about that?

[atomic siren]

sure

[hard ivy]

It saves oil. That's it. If you need more power from the same amount of oil right now, you use turbofuel. If you don't, you use regular fuel.

Effort-wise they're very similar

[lean ferry]

guys u might not know answer- this is steam deck related

im thinkign to get steam deck to play satisfactory are saves saved on cloud? or on device

[clever fossil]

there's an alternate rocket fuel recipe that skips the turbofuel process, by shoving fuel and other stuff in the Blender

[atomic siren]

probably will do it then I only have 2 oil nodes and the closest ones are up a mountain I dont wanna do

[lean ferry]

so can I play same save on both or only 1

[hard ivy]

Both

[lean ferry]

so I can play same save on satisfactory?

[hard ivy]

2 pure oil nodes is enough for 40 GW with just oil and water

[hard ivy]

Unless you disabled cloud saves

[lean ferry]

wheres that

steam or satisfactory

[atomic siren]

oh then i'm probably fine

I need like 5 GW maybe

[hard ivy]

Should be in Satisfactory properties

[hard ivy]

You need the right recipes for that tho

[lean ferry]

im confused 😦

whats properties? any guide or smth

[hard ivy]

Right click on satisfactory in the steam library

[lean ferry]

oh

[atomic siren]

yeah will have to make do with standard, my alt recipes always suck

[hard ivy]

All you need is heavy oil residue and diluted packaged fuel

[clever fossil]

then you can do all that by running as many plastics/rubbers as you want to use or sink to produce a lot of heavy oil into fuel, or just turn crude oil into fuel for less yield.

[lean ferry]

what do yall mean by sink

like awesome sink

[atomic siren]

yea

[clever fossil]

yep

[lean ferry]

k

can u sink polymer resin or not

[clever fossil]

yep

[lean ferry]

then why not do alot of fuel and sink polymer

[real iris]

worth to use rocket fuel for power?

[lean ferry]

if u only want power, if not then get soem rubber and plastic and sink rest of polymer

[quiet gust]

Collect a bunch, store them in the hard drive library, and only use them once you need them to limit the pool

[hard ivy]

Without alts, that's the most oil efficient way to make fuel

[clever fossil]

i put up a storage space for polymer, then put a smart splitter between that and any overflow to go to the sink

[quiet gust]

Yes

[hard ivy]

Absolutely

[lean ferry]

is ficsonium, radiated or not

[clever fossil]

hell yeah, especially that alternate recipe

[quiet gust]

Yes but it has no waste

[hard ivy]

Yes, it's radioactive. The most radioactive game in game

[real iris]

with the normal recipe ?

[quiet gust]

Both are good depending on what you value

[clever fossil]

normal recipe youll researc htem maam sulfer tech tree

[hard ivy]

Both rocket fuel recipes are good. They're just different

[lean ferry]

should I grind mam im tier 4 ( I made new save)

[tidal epoch]

fused quickwire or automated miner?

[quiet gust]

The alt chows through sulfur and nitrogen but is super simple, the regular uses more oil but saves on the other two

[hard ivy]

You should always grind MAM

[lean ferry]

no like grind grind

k ill do when i can

[clever fossil]

wtf happened to the rocket fuel page on the wiki

[hard ivy]

Both are useful. Choose the one you want right now

[clever fossil]

is someone editing it?

[quiet gust]

Auto miner imo but can't go wrong with either

[hard ivy]

Mine looks fine

[open pollen]

Are you on the gg wiki?

[tidal epoch]

what if i rescan the drive?

[clever fossil]

on off topic media

im o nthe fandom wiki

[real iris]

how to get all hard drive easy?

[clever fossil]

is there a better wiki than this?

[hard ivy]

Then don't be

[quiet gust]

I wouldn't, you can but it's better to save it

[hard ivy]

Satisfactory.wiki.gg

[quiet gust]

Wiki .gg

[clever fossil]

thanks a bunch

[quiet gust]

Go through sulfur tree get almost all weapons, go exploring

[lean ferry]

I always use wiki gg cuz fandom is blocked on my school pc

[clever fossil]

oh what do oyu know, i do have tabs to that place, it just has a different domain name lmao

[pastel carbon]

Do you like exploration or hate it

If you like exploration, just explore the whole map and you'll find them slowly

[quiet gust]

If you hate exploring get homing rifle ammo and hoverpacks around the world

[pastel carbon]

And use stuff like ziplines and the hard drive scanner to help you

[hard ivy]

Then the 2 recipes that were in it go back to being available, and you have no clue what you'll get. Imo, rescanning is always bad.

If you don't like the recipes, don't take either, you'll be able to choose one of them anytime later if you change your mind

[pastel carbon]

If you hate exploration, there's a map with all hard drive locations online

Well, you'll still get to explore the map, but maybe with a bit less uncertainty and wonder

[clever fossil]

best advice is to have a parachute, radioactive suit and gas filters, and plenty of iron rods for building ladders, and if you have a dimensional depot, use that as a resource for droppods that may require variety of things, like turbomotor, heatsink, anything.

[real iris]

is there a command the get all of them?

[clever fossil]

if you prefer combat with the environment, bring weapons, of course

[pastel carbon]

And if you really hate exploration, cheats exist, but that's not really playing the game

[clever fossil]

sure, if youre using AGS normally

[nova igloo]

we got satisfactory logo factory cart before GTA6

[hard ivy]

By the point you have a hazmat suit, you can have the jetpack too

[pastel carbon]

Although if you've decided you really don't want to find them manually, a command exists

[quiet gust]

It's good if you need a specific recipe and don't want to go hard drive hunting across the whole world

[real iris]

whats AGS

[clever fossil]

just recommending a fuel-free journey lol

[pastel carbon]

Or you can edit your inventory with an online save editor to have all the hard drives / alts

[hard ivy]

Y tho

[quiet gust]

Advanced games settings

[clever fossil]

because i did that

[quiet gust]

Why?

[hard ivy]

Sounds miserable

[clever fossil]

It was

until the dimensiona ldepot became a thing

then fuel was convenient to carry

and explosives

[quiet gust]

I think it was fine anyway

[hard ivy]

They should probably whitelist their own Kickstarter lmao

[eager tartan]

Gujys why do ppl not recommend trucks,

[clever fossil]

the tiny one or the big one

[eager tartan]

They carry like a shit load of items and u dont need messy highway elevators

Edi: Tractor^^

[quiet gust]

You can

[pastel carbon]

A lot of the complaints stem from pre-1.0 where trucks would get stuck easily and not teleport to the next waypoint

Now that trucks teleport to the next waypoint if they're stuck, they're more reliable

[clever fossil]

my dad used quite a few trucks for his delivery system in the game

[pastel carbon]

But having to create the route yourself and them possibly getting stuck are big factors in why people don't use trucks as much

[clever fossil]

i prefered trains whereas he didnt lol

[pastel carbon]

I love trains

[eager tartan]

i despire the 20mw cost early game

despite the 20mw cost per sttion early game

[clever fossil]

right, that number didnt mean much to me with making a bunch of coal generators lol

[shy mulch]

what's the issue?

[pastel carbon]

Yeah, isn't 20 MW pretty cheap

Coal power makes 20MW not a big issue

[hard ivy]

Cus they suck

[clever fossil]

found the oldhead

[fallow hollow]

How do i unlock coated concrete?

[clever fossil]

alternate recipe

[hard ivy]

Tried them twice. When I first unlocked them in like u2 or u3, and when they said they've "improved them". They sucked both times

[elder apex]

coated concrete requires plastic unlocked, then it should be available in the shop for purchase with coupons

[hard ivy]

Awesome shop probably

[eager tartan]

#screenshots message Why cant I delete gang?

[clever fossil]

that, oil/plastic/rubber production unlocked

oh wiat

yo umean the material?

[mortal ginkgo]

• Sometimes they get stuck for no reason.
• Sometimes they unstuck themselves for no reason.
• Sometimes they stop each other despite going the same direction.
• Sometimes their waypoint-mark gets a collision for no reason.
• Sometimes they fall off the map.
• If you got few of them, they work.
• They get replaced by trains which are vastly superior.

[clever fossil]

yeah, awesome shop

[clever fossil]

pretty much why i prefer trains, they jsut do everything better than those vehicles, without spending fuel to boot

and more fuel means more fuel generators!

[elder apex]

electricity isn't free, still costs "fuel", just doesn't require fueling

[mortal ginkgo]

Trains cost more power

[clever fossil]

what i just said

more fuel goes to fuel generators

more power

easy

[latent prawn]

I'll add they're good for simple last-mile loops to get stuff to and from trains. They work ok-ish if you don't try getting very fancy with thiem

[mortal ginkgo]

You are still a bit of wrong there buddy 😛

[clever fossil]

hey man, i use my train to carry the nitro and sulfuric acid, that's all the matters

[tidal epoch]

where does my items go after i buy from awesome shop?

i bought a tape

[lean ferry]

guys is it normal my mk2 belts look like they are battle scarred

like they have so much dirt and rips on them compared to other belts

[clever fossil]

there should be an inventory slot to check to take them out of the shop and into your inventory

as for buildables, theyre unlocked in the buildign menu

[lean ferry]

check screenshots

[hard ivy]

Nevermind being replaced by trains, trucks are replaced by belts before they're even unlocked

[mortal ginkgo]

Imma disagree on that. Not everyone likes very long belts. I don't.

[tidal epoch]

not in my inventory

[mortal ginkgo]

They also make the world more dynamic. They are cute in their own way.

[lean ferry]

@sour dew you can build a 2nd floor

[clever fossil]

I do!

global beltwork

[mortal ginkgo]

Ew.

[clever fossil]

Welcome to the Interbelt

[mortal ginkgo]

Ewwww. Mods. Get'im.

[lean ferry]

huh

beltworks?

like belt highway

[clever fossil]

network

beltwork

[rapid venture]

Rather expecting a chorus of 'git gud', but man, the fluid mechanics in this game are wearing me down to the point I don't much want to play. I've got 2.3K hours in the game, been around since phase 3 was the endgame. And yet, when I set up anything with a bunch of fluid pipes, it becomes wildly unreliable.

Putting a single no-return valve in the middle of a straight pipe can bollocks up a whole system somehow, when it's in the direction of the fluid flow and without a rate limiter. I'm using pipes that are more or less double the capacity I need. And still, I have to nurse the bloody thing along and can never trust it to output at a consistent rate. Compared to dealing with standard items on conveyor belts, it's just exhausting.

[clever fossil]

I mean, i've been there

[willow dawn]

Are all your pipes the same level? I heard that can muck things up even though they shouldn't

[latent prawn]

the major trick i'll share is to keep pipe networks as small as you can make them. figure out the smallest number of machines that need to share a pipe and partition your builds into small modules that move liquids

[silk ocean]

Shouldn't do as long as it's within the Head Lift basic limits

[shy mulch]

I think the key thing people get wrong with fluids in this game is expecting them to be the same as real life
Design something that makes sense and would probably work for real, just doesn't seem to
Recognise that there are very specific ways that fluid physics work in the game, throw out what common sense tells you and learn the rules of how they work in the game, and build your pipe networks according to that

[lean ferry]

hm

very big cliff fall with stingers but I need that sam bro

[silk ocean]

i.e. 10m, 20m tops from an extractor/water pump

[rapid venture]

The pipes are all at the same lowest level, and yeah, there's collection pipes gathering residue from multiple buildings

[lean ferry]

LETS GO

[rapid venture]

And it's not a head-lift problem, first thing I checked

[latent prawn]

oft times if you partition small, you can keep the pipes mk1 which are much more tolerant to sloshing behavior

[lean ferry]

nvm I forgot the absolute goat zipline existed

[south sinew]

never really found myself with the zipline

[clever fossil]

is it the low throughput, or perhaps the sloshing?

[south sinew]

slidejump with bladerunner seems better

[rapid venture]

I suspect it's the sloshing causing pressure waves that block up the pipes