satisfactory

[viral tendon]

That game costs a lot

[minor rock]

seem like the lg c series is still meta

[viral tendon]

27 is a big screen??

Anything above 27 is just a TV

[tranquil hemlock]

Me: Finally, got some plastic, now I can FINALLY research the next step in getting the rif- Ahhh, crap. I forgot I needed to make Smokeless powder" 🥲

[proven canyon]

then how do you have a 144hz monitor but not a 60$ game

[harsh flicker]

Most games I play I can get over 120fps and I’m thankful for that but like I’m a fucking tech nerd who thrives for more

[minor rock]

i'd rather not have multiple monitors tbh

you can get a 32" oled, or 42" oled, theres nowhere in the middle though

[harsh flicker]

If I win the lottery you better believe every gamer in the world is gonna want my setup.

[minor rock]

ASUS has a 38" LCD monitor, that's prob a good size for it

else theres a premium for UW

[harsh flicker]

Not me with 2 hooked up and 2 in my closet cause I don’t need them rn

[viral tendon]

That's like saying how do you have a good car but not golden rims for it, they're just 50% cheaper than the car

I don't live in the land of freedom

60$ is a lot to spend on one single game

My monitor costed me like 130$? It was brand new not used

[minor rock]

1440p UW has been good to me, got it new 5 years ago, it's still going strong. i'd get an oled one , but what i like about the monitor is 5 yrs, no dead pixels, looks like it did on day one

[harsh flicker]

How about this. How a game about to be 60 usd and still be trash?

[harsh flicker]

And chance you could link it?

[viral tendon]

42 oled i staright up tv

[viral tendon]

Can you send one

Also i fuckingh hate that my monitor can't have an arm for it

[harsh flicker]

I think a well polished game should be like 30 USD or imma get it other ways lol.

[minor rock]

they don't manufacture them anymore. it was an high quality IPS for the time. there is some motion smearing, but it's not too noticeable
it's an lg 34gn850b

[viral tendon]

Only the one that will grab it

Like 2 things on the bottom that will hold it and two things on the top

[minor rock]

you can get the same sized panel now in a VA for a lot cheaper. but those have their own problems

[viral tendon]

Ghosting

[minor rock]

the backlight bleed is pretty minimal on my model

[harsh flicker]

I’ll do 120 usd for it. 200 for both

[viral tendon]

I have 24 VA

[viral tendon]

My monitor costed 120 usd

[minor rock]

i went from 24 TN to 34 21:9 IPS. i couldnt believe there was colors on my screen lol

[harsh flicker]

No.

[viral tendon]

Anything above 3 is just unnecesesary

[harsh flicker]

This

2 horizontal and 1 vertical

[viral tendon]

3 is a lot for most of the people

[minor rock]

idk lg need to make a 42" c4 but as 21:9 240hz

[viral tendon]

Ion even have arm stand for my 2nd monitor

[harsh flicker]

Which is why I only have 2 hooked up right now.

[viral tendon]

1 monitor for game, 1 monitor for discord, one monitor for like shows or shit

I currently got 2, i use pip for vids

[minor rock]

like we have the 45GX950A , but is it enough ?

one ultrawide been pretty good. the 16:18 DualUp monitors are cool

idk how do they even fit on ur desk xD

you must sit pretty far away

my desk is 2100mm long 900 deep and i could just about fit 3 but not really

idk can you raytracing on both and how slow is it ? xD

[viral tendon]

When ray tracing on python

[minor rock]

wait so u could just run cuda and it will just work over both ?

[viral tendon]

Imagine coding with ray tracing

[minor rock]

it wont be fast or look nice lol

[viral tendon]

Never will code in my life shit is too complicated

[minor rock]

idk a line is a ray, simple

[viral tendon]

Well wait hold on a second

What you said made me interested

[minor rock]

i made my first internal on satisfactory so theres that and yes it does wear you out 😩

[viral tendon]

23 pass royales an hour great heavens

[minor rock]

let's find out 🤷‍♂️

[viral tendon]

I may have been to harsh on coding

[minor rock]

280 pesos 🧠

[viral tendon]

I hope it's not zimbabwe dollars

[minor rock]

and how many story points will it take to fix that ?

[viral tendon]

280 and hour is like monthly salary for some people\

Yikes

Encased industrial beams production for some uranium fuel rods is done

Time to get electromagnetic control rods cooking

[minor rock]

hell yea

[viral tendon]

22 per minutes

4.4 ufr/m

That will be enough for some time

[vast plinth]

Hi how would I go about reporting an oversight in how controller support is implemented?

[viral tendon]

Since i was making only 1.2 before

[silk ocean]

My Slug Repository has reached 100 in storage... SLUGREPO™

Well, 100 Power Shards that is xD

Nothing like fixing bottlenecks by throwing slugs at the problem

wb

yea I must remember to do that XD

I think I only have about 40 sloops tho but I'll check it out now

Thanks. I haven't unlocked that bit yet xD

[shy mulch]

Unlocking somersloops is one of the first things I try to do on a new playthrough, in early game it makes a big difference to power shard and biomass production

[silk ocean]

Working on the Alien Technology tree now, I've been slacking on that part of the MAM

[viral tendon]

It's crazy how we have only 1 thing that makes power from literally nothing

I mean no additiona lresources

[shy mulch]

alien power augmenters, and geothermal

[viral tendon]

Alien power augmenter gives a boost

If you have 0 power you're generating 0

[shy mulch]

also gives 500 MW

[viral tendon]

Oh, well we have 2

[shy mulch]

I underestimated the effort involved in producing alien power matrix lol

That's a lot of biofuel, why?

Fair enough lol

How do you make enough biomass to keep them all running?

Why underclock the burners?

Efficiency of biomass burners doesn't change by overclocking/underclocking. One unit of biomass makes the same amount of power regardless

Burning 1 solid biofuel every 5 minutes is what, 5% clock rate?

So each one produces 1.5 MW

so you have 200k biomass burners?

[smoky reef]

how do i fix train signals looping onto themselves

[viral tendon]

I might try to do it

200k biomasses would be hard to get

[shy mulch]

How many biomass burners do you have?

You stated quite a high amount of power, but if each one is only making 1.5 MW that's a LOT to build

[viral tendon]

The fact that you can't automate biomass burners sucks

[shy mulch]

Would be a lot less building to just clock them all to 250%

[viral tendon]

About 2.5x less

[shy mulch]

No, his are clocked at 5%

so 50x less

[viral tendon]

So we're torturing ourselfs

[shy mulch]

Got any pics? I'd love to see that many biomass burners lol. How many have you built so far?

[viral tendon]

Coders are ALWAYS anywhere but their home

[shy mulch]

I miss my coding days a bit

It's fun, but not enough money in it

I went about as far as I could, but there is a ceiling

I just moved into corporate consulting

[south sinew]

Biomass burners in general just suck really, you should get coal power as the first unlock in Tier 2 IMO

[burnt ferry]

shouldnt i supposed to be able to rotate platforms for lesss than 90 degrees? i mean while still being attached to another platform.. it works when i put entirely off grid but then its hard to align. goal is go get a curve

AH... put a supporting platform underneath for construction

hm.. just doesnt look as good for ramps

[shy mulch]

You can also put beams at any angle and snap foundations to the beams

[burnt ferry]

true... but id still have to put it one by one, no?

would be great if we could use bezier curves for them beams

[shy mulch]

one per angle, then zoop the foundations

If you get a design that you like, put the curved part in a blueprint

[burnt ferry]

nah thats not it

for a curve each foundation has a new angle

hence you cant zoop

[shy mulch]

Yes that's what I meant

[burnt ferry]

wait

[shy mulch]

for each angle, put one beam, then one foundation

[burnt ferry]

the zoop folllows the beam?

[shy mulch]

Then from that you can zoop outwards

[burnt ferry]

that doesnt work

[shy mulch]

I think we're talking about different things

[burnt ferry]

im talking about a curve of foundations bro

[shy mulch]

That doesn't narrow it down much, we're talking about specific methods

[burnt ferry]

i just tried to zoop foundations along beams

doesnt work

[shy mulch]

It works for me

In what axis do you mean "along"

[burnt ferry]

bruh

the curve!

[shy mulch]

The beam isn't curved...

[burnt ferry]

dude.. how ios the beam supposed to help then?

[shy mulch]

"along the beam" and "the curve" can't possibly be the same thing

[burnt ferry]

my expectation was to put beams like i would put foundations which each beam being rotated a bit more...

[shy mulch]

you put one beam out from the centre of the circle to the edge, one beam per angle

then place a foundation at the end of each beam

[burnt ferry]

then to zoop foundations along that... otherwise, tell me how the beam helps for the curve in particular

[hard ivy]

Zoop always goes straight. If you want a curve, you need to place them individually

[burnt ferry]

you said that before, to which i replied yes.. you just cant zoop the foundation .. i mean there is no other method where you can zoop, not that i know of.. but the claim comes from your statement, not from mine

ye thats what im saying the whole time.. thanks for confirming

[shy mulch]

you definitely can zoop foundations

[burnt ferry]

@hard ivy is he getting it? tell me

[hard ivy]

How can you zoop a curve?

Without mods

[shy mulch]

Either I'm explaining it badly, or you're reading it badly. Either way, the method works.

At no point did I claim you could zoop a curve

[burnt ferry]

lul

[hard ivy]

Then why was zooping ever mentioned

[shy mulch]

Sigh

[burnt ferry]

you realize that you replied this, to us speaking about curves?

[shy mulch]

I give up, watch a youtube video about it, there's about 788923

Part of the process involves zooping

But not on the curve

[burnt ferry]

wait

youre saying make one straight segment,

then connect a curve, using said method and then connect another straight segment?

[shy mulch]

^

[burnt ferry]

ich hab dir ne dm geschickt.. wahrscheinlich sprachbarriere

[leaden turret]

zooping for the radius, yus?

[shy mulch]

yes

I put a #screenshots to show what I was trying to explain

[leaden turret]

I wonder if curved pipe mode and beams can play nice with each other to do curves more efficiently...

[shy mulch]

That is worth an experiment

I'll play with that idea now and see if I can make anything work

Beams won't interact with the pipe at all, booo

Nice thought though

[dense violet]

rails are probably easier. Already ways to use them for that

[silk ocean]

Does Bacon Agaric regrow or is it one pick and gone?

[vague sparrow]

So, just planted my first radar and my entire last evening of exploring and meticulously documenting every ore patch and it's purity feels immediately invalidated lmao

[shy mulch]

Pick and gone

[silk ocean]

Thanks

[leaden turret]

do pipe poles snap to curve?

[vague sparrow]

I don't think it scans sub-surface though, found an uranium node in a cave and it does not show that, so that's a win 😛

[shy mulch]

Never used rails for that, gave it a try and posted the result in #screenshots not sure if I'm doing it right, feels a little messy

[sweet wing]

I just found out that the reason some satisfactory screenshots have shaders isnt because they've installed reshade, (the way I - an utter fool have,) but because theres apparently a built in shader type thing called Lumen.

I spent hours fiddling with reshade settings. HOURS. I feel silly and humbled

[leaden turret]

photo mode shaders also

[dense violet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9V0fQPq3Xo&t=3s

[shy mulch]

Ooo pillars, interesting

[tranquil hemlock]

Do other people always follow your tractor for a lap when you first set a route to autopilot, just to make sure it goes without mishaps?

[white dawn]

Yeah, I generally end up doing that

Also to look for any errant blue pause nodes I might have accidentally left there

[vernal kelp]

sup boyos

how do i fuel a train?

[leaden turret]

you don't.

they're electric.

[vernal kelp]

i see.

[open pollen]

Trains don’t need fuel. Hook up the station to a power pole and it will run. Also power runs along train lines so you can use each end of the station as a connection point to transfer power

[vernal kelp]

i see

thanks boyos

also do i need to do 2 trains on each line? like back and forth

[open pollen]

You could do a two rail system where two rails run parallel to each other and one is used to only go one direction and the other the opposite (like a road). This makes expansion much easier later on cause it allows for multiple trains to run on the tracks at once

You could also do a simple one lane system with the train having engines on both ends to go back and forth between two stations along one single line, but this is hard to expand later on

[south elm]

how do you change rifle ammo ._. i crafted homing bullets and i have no clue how to load it, i feel stupid

[dense violet]

hold R

[south elm]

ffs

thanks

[dense violet]

holding E or R does a lot in spots

[tranquil hemlock]

runs from oil factory back to base
"Why the hell did I come back to base?"
runs from base back to oil
"Oh, that's right, I wanted to unlock fuel power. Duh."

[boreal musk]

praise the to do list ingame

[silk ocean]

Well the Alien Technology tree has escalated quickly XD

[sly delta]

is there a way to boot straight to the main menu and skip the bits of info ?

[hard ivy]

there's a mod for that

other than that, I don't think so

[pulsar bobcat]

I am about to complete phase 3 so i looked at the wiki to see whats in the next tiers and is the productions as bad as it looks 💀

[stark bear]

no not really

[pulsar bobcat]

i guess i'll have to just trust u then

[vital elk]

Phase 4 is the meat of the game. It's not "bad" but it's a step up in scale. Aluminum production can be tricky to figure out the first time

[hard ivy]

no it's worse 💀

[naive pendant]

Phase 4 is kinda a lot, yes.

[south lion]

guys im kinda struggling to start up my new coal power generators

i built a new factory with alot of them but idk how to start them up without it blowing up instantly

[naive pendant]

You have to jump start with extra biomass burners.

[leaden ether]

And fire them up one at a time.

[south lion]

do i need like 1 biomass burner per generator?

[leaden ether]

One biomass should be enough for one generator and one water extractor to start up. But if you want to go quicker, you can put 2 or three on sure :)

[shy mulch]

Connect everything together so everything is on one power grid

[south lion]

so i tried filling all the generators with water and coal to the max and then starting them (all of them are connected to a closed grid with the water pumps) and it still failed

[naive pendant]

Isn’t it just the miners, water extractor, pumps that you need to power to jump start? 4-10 biomass burners should be fine.

[south lion]

yeah

ima just try 1 biomass burner per generator now

[leaden ether]

You can add up the power requirements (I forgot about the miner) But if you have enough to get one going then booting up the others is quicker.

[shy mulch]

Leave them all turned off. Have 1 biomass burner on. Then turn on one coal miner and 1 water extractor and they'll feed 1 coal plant. Then turn on that coal plant, wait a min, turn on next coal plant etc

[hard ivy]

just connect the entire coal plant together, see how much power you need to power it all up and build that many burners

[south lion]

if the generators are off but connected does it still show how much power i need?

[hard ivy]

the coal generators don't need power to start. the water extractors and coal miners do

[south lion]

yeah

alr thx ima see

ok somehow it started up without any biomass burners

we'll see if it stays lol

[buoyant vapor]

How do i destroy these, nothings working
#screenshots message

[willow glen]

Sometimes electric generators that require multiple sources require two fuse pulls to start up. Not entirely sure why

[hard ivy]

that's the neat part, you don't

I don't tink even nukes work

[buoyant vapor]

...

[willow glen]

try blowing up the base of it, not the balloon

[buoyant vapor]

i did

[hard ivy]

though I haven't tried a chainsaw

[buoyant vapor]

nope

[willow glen]

is that one in particular not removable? Most of them are now, the balloon flys up it’s pretty cool

[unique jacinth]

Is there an easy way to find, where is this god damm blwon fuse, that aperantly isnt connected to my main power grid?

[hard ivy]

SCIM has a list of grids

idk if it tells you which one is blown tho

[buoyant vapor]

like dawg
#screenshots message

[hard ivy]

the big ones, yes. these small ones in the red forest apparently were forgotten

[willow glen]

red light above machine will tell ya which is blown, use SCIM to narrow down which one it is (I bet it’s one you forgot about)

[willow glen]

hope they patch that

[buoyant vapor]

im gonna kill my-

[south sinew]

dog? that seems excessively cruel

[south elm]

do you guys know any trick to dismantle a thing that doesnt want to be dismantled? As is, it's undergroud and any mouse angle doesnt catch it

it bothers me greatly cuz its a foundation that sticks out a little but refuses to get targeted.

[hard ivy]

Save editor

[south elm]

dangit thats extreme

[true mulch]

If you built it recently, load an old autosave

Otherwise save editing is the only option

[spice patio]

Or glitching into the terrain also works.

[true mulch]

Yeah depends what it's glitched into

If it's just the ground, sure

If it's a cliff face or some rock, not guaranteed

[frail sleet]

it's not really, takes a matter of seconds using free tools

[unkempt blade]

Stinger ranking in order of the best arachnophobia alt image:

• alpha
• baby
• elite

[willow glen]

the green stingers love to clip their hitboxes into terrain, I emptied a whole stack of explosive rebar on the first one I encountered and was convinced they were unkillable lol

[unkempt blade]

just gotta get really close and hit them with the basher - what could go wrong?

[late void]

Place down another foundation connecting it place down a cart with the door side facing the cliff and get out it allows clipping into the cliff side and deletion, and yes most of the time you’ll be able to reach it because most of the map is made in sections

[sage flame]

so i wanted to take one final crack at fuel powered generators before dealing with radioactivity, and using the nitro rocket fuel i was able to get a 600m3/m pipe of rocket fuel. took a lot of doing, and along with setting up 28 coal-powered generators to absorb the compacted coal. everything was up and running, even set up a tiny bottler to run off. then i finally, finally hooked up a fuel-powered generator to see what i was working with

a fuel-powered generator needs 4.17m3/m rocket fuel for power. 600 divided by 4.17 is... 143.88 fuel-powered generators

[hard ivy]

it's 4.1(6) actually

so 144 gens exactly

[sage flame]

mm hm

[terse dome]

Anybody wanna take a guess at how many Buildings you need to complete everything?

[sage flame]

probably 140 so some bizarre bottling incident doesn't cause problems

[terse dome]

3

[hard ivy]

one of each

[sage flame]

i thought i was being efficient in my playthrough

[terse dome]

Hub, Space Elevator, Assembler

[sage flame]

+180 buildings

[hard ivy]

how do you plan on making BWDs in an assembler?

[terse dome]

The Hub has a Crafting bench, so you can do everything there, the Assembler is so you can make the Space Elevator parts, you might need the 4 slot one, I dunno

Yeah, I was assuming.

[sage flame]

the real method is hunting aliens for ficsit coupons

[hard ivy]

you can't buy SE parts

[terse dome]

But still, only needing like, the hub, the space elevator, possibly a power pole for the 4 slot assembler thing later,

[elder apex]

Technically you don't need the hub permanently either, you can construct it only when you need to acquire milestones

[sage flame]

you can buy the parts for the hub parts

[terse dome]

Yeah, but you do need it for power

And its crafting bench

[sage flame]

you could canvas the map and get plenty of goodies

[terse dome]

Very true.

[sage flame]

i'm not sure personal chests count as buildings

[elder apex]

no, you don't need it for power if you are hand crafting, you can use the buildable bench

[sage flame]

i suppose they do

[terse dome]

Assembler.

Needs power for the ship parts. and so does the 4 slot thing, which would probably need a power pole, does it use more than 20 MW?

[elder apex]

you'd need something with more power than the hub for the particle accelerator for pasta i'd bet unless you want to underclock it to hell

[sage flame]

finally time for biofuel to shine

[terse dome]

Ahhhh

So, probably a Geothermal

[hard ivy]

you need 1 assembler, 1 manufacturer, 1 blender, 1 particle accelerator, 1 encoder, the HUB and the Spelevator
and MAM

[sage flame]

you could use the 3 pure geysers in the red forest

[terse dome]

on a Pure

[sage flame]

yea

[terse dome]

Since Geothermal requires nothing else and is great power

[hard ivy]

you can underclock to 1% and run everything off the HUB

[terse dome]

True.

[sage flame]

see you in five billion years

[terse dome]

but that makes you need the MAM

[sage flame]

true efficiency

[terse dome]

to unlock Underclocking

[sage flame]

a biofuel burner isn't that bad until you need like, pasta

[elder apex]

once again, the mam is not a permanent building. can build it as needed

[terse dome]

Counts as a building

[sage flame]

they can take power shards right

[terse dome]

If you place it down, we're counting it

[hard ivy]

by that logic, you'd only need the elevator

[terse dome]

Not even!

Just hold everything for it in the INV

[elder apex]

or the editor. 🙂

[hard ivy]

AGS and 0 buildings lol

start the game already completed

[sage flame]

man

[spiral stratus]

I just finished building a starter smart plating factory and
I now understand
It could be more efficient
Ig it's time to demolish everything and restart

[sage flame]

i was like, ok what does 140 fuel-powered generators looks like. and with how i threw down the coal-powered generators, the best place for all these freakin fuel generators is where my batteries are

[spiral stratus]

[terse dome]

Now, assuming we are doing it with the rules of: Any building placed down permanently counts towards the total, no AGS, and no mods.

[hard ivy]

I'd say making any smart plating factory is already being inefficient

[terse dome]

For Phase 1 it's understandable

But Phase 2, you might as well have the factory be for everything

Also, the Deployable Miners would not count as buildings

[sage flame]

the traditional method for project parts is to have select assemblers etc. outside your production with storage fed parts

[hard ivy]

yeah, you don't use the build tool to build them so they don't

[sage flame]

since you can math out the actual requirements fairly easily

though a storage container of smart plates will get used.. eventually

[spiral stratus]

How so?
I completed the 1000 smart plating thing for the elevator. Am I gonna need more or should I build something else instead?

[sage flame]

they don't need to be automated since they're only for completing the main quest

basically

[spiral stratus]

Oh

[hard ivy]

it's just easier to place one assembler, overclock and sloop it, and then handfeed it the exact amount of items needed to make the amount of plating you need for that phase and not a single one more
then do it again when the time to complete the next phase comes

[terse dome]

though vehicles do count.

And we wouldn't count power lines

[spiral stratus]

Got it

[hard ivy]

not the factory cart

[terse dome]

Okay, how does the Sloop generator work?

[terse dome]

True! But that requires Awesome sink and shop

[hard ivy]

and a container and a belt

[terse dome]

Nah, you could technically use one of your production things to insert

[leaden ether]

MAN I wish there were 4x2, 8x2 and 16x2 billboards for sign use.

[chrome glen]

How does the train station transfer average rate work? how long does it take to stabilize? Im setting up a nuclear facility, so i can't really leave this one up to figure if its insufficient later

[hard ivy]

it takes like half an hour I think

[flint aspen]

If your train car isn’t full and isn’t backing up or anything weird you have the same throughput as the machines

If the train car is full, just add another train on the same loop

[chrome glen]

I supose i have enough rail to stack another train

[flint aspen]

Or add another car

[leaden ether]

One gotcha to look out for is that when the train is in the station the ability to load or unload from the backside of the depot is halted for.. 15 seconds? If throughput is critical, put a buffer storage container on the back side of the depot so it becomes your uninterruptable buffer, not the depot itself. This allows your factory to not back up for 15 seconds every time the train (s) come by. (Probably only really useful for very high throughput needs)

[chrome glen]

I already got those

Just got a long ish train line now, and sorta can't afford to have it come short due to lack of train troughput

Anyways, 2nd train ought to really make it 100% safe

[south sinew]

dang why are singularity cells so expensive

I just want to be able to teleport around the map

oh wait, each portal is 2 cells/minute to maintain? I thought it was 10 lol

[rare torrent]

is there a way to go back into free fal after activating the hoverpack??

[hard ivy]

double tap C i think

[rare torrent]

thanks

[vital pendant]

when the game comes to console, will it be crossplay

[hard ivy]

crossplay between consoles, yes. crossplay between console and PC, no, at least not anytime soon

[maiden pollen]

I hate trains

[willow glen]

Are you having a particular issue, or just a fan of other transportation means?

[maiden pollen]

I do, Y-junctions. Wrote a thread in the #1038092680493801533 channel

[hot panther]

How i can get the Bolted Frame Recipe?

[chrome glen]

Alright, with fuel production done... now i have to build the equivalent of 45 nuclear power plants, and its water pumps, any tips? I dread manually rigging all those pumps, i understand they were even barred fromb eing blueprintable?

any tips to make it less tedious?

[elder apex]

you can blueprint water extractors if you use the Shallow Water Extractor mod or something similar. You can also download pre-made blueprints of extractors and use even in vanilla

[loud leaf]

can someone help me with my diluted fuel setup not working. i put a post in questions and help

[flint aspen]

As tempting as it is don’t fully overclock them, keeping perfect throughput with the water at that level is a nightmare and a half

The nuclear power plants I mean

[chrome glen]

Isn't it the opposite? Full overclock means full mk2 pipe, means 2 full extractors

each power plant just gets its own pipe and 2 extractors, no need to balance water

[flint aspen]

Yes, but the slightest fluctuation in output will completely fuck you over

The numbers work nicely but in practice there’s some issues

[fluid sapphire]

is there a way to reliably position items on shelves?

[chrome glen]

alright, will run em at 225% instead of 250, it ill make it a round 20 NPPs

[flint aspen]

That should work well

[tidal epoch]

any online servers i can join?

[sly delta]

I think there's a channel dedicated for servers

here #1201555265942724758

[spiral stratus]

I need another opinion
Someone here told me it's not worth it to automate smart plating
Is that true?

[vapid zephyr]

Is it right that Singularity Cells only sink for 114k points while Nuclear Pasta sinks for 539k? I though Singularity Cells would sink for more.

[hard ivy]

1 pasta makes 10

[vapid zephyr]

Oh yeah

[silk ocean]

Putting sloops into machines is kinda... freaky xD

[vital elk]

You need like 4300 total smart plating total. I don't see why you wouldn't want to fully automate that

[merry mountain]

Anyone notice, if you have a drone port, and you look at it on the map and mouse-over, the pop up tells you the incoming and outgoing items, BUT, they are reversed!! I have a drone port I'm exporting packaged nitrogen.. when I'm at the drone port, it says "1,800 outgoing" with the inbound empty (this is reality), but on the map, that drone port says "1800 incoming" with the outgoing side empty

[merry mountain]

They need to fix that map view where Incoming <> Outgoing are backwards

[spiral stratus]

I have a machine making them rn. So I should make the total amount I will need and stop it there?

[vital elk]

You can stop or you can continue making them and sink them for tickets. There's not really a reason to stop producing something since resources are infinite

[south sinew]

to use the resources for something you actually want

[lavish sedge]

Guys I made a hypertube luncher but i cant go the right way because my character wont choose the right direction and i dont know how to change the direktion

pls help

there is a loop but it wont choose the loop

[grizzled lotus]

what kinds of fuels do trucks and tractors take

[barren eagle]

Hi, I’ve four pure iron nodes, shall I get rid of the basic iron factory (iron plates, screws and the other that make the screws) and put 1 for smart plates or whoever it’s called, 1 for reinforced iron plates, another for roters and last one for modular frames?

[grizzled lotus]

are you still in phase 1?

what are the space elevator requirements? If you're still early on, I would recommend on focusing on making Smart Plates. Don't try to intersect and overlap different nodes as it can get inefficiently confusing

it's better to expand and build "mini-factories". For example, a minifactory for Iron Plates, another for Reinforced Plates, etc. Once you get to phase 2 you have better options that can help

Pure nodes can output 120 ores with Mk1.Miners, but you need Mk.2 conveyor belts.

[reef basin]

Keep what you have, build new

Production to storage is always fine to have

[vernal kelp]

boys i need help, preferably in a voice call

my train no workie

[grizzled lotus]

should I be stingy about using mercer spheres in research, or is that what they're for? (aside from the dimensional storage box)

[hard ivy]

there's more than enough spheres for everything you could want to use them for

[grizzled lotus]

I'm sure that's true eventually, I'm wondering if that's the proper way when I'm still in phase 3

also, can I upload an item and download a different item simultaneously?

[hard ivy]

Not sure what you're asking? Items get uploaded by uploaders, they get downloaded by you

[elder apex]

downloading is pretty much instant and doesn't require any DD bandwidth

[grizzled lotus]

I was thinking of setting up a storage container connected to a dimensional storage to upload different items

[elder apex]

and each DD upload operates independently of the others

[grizzled lotus]

I was wondering if that would block me from downloading stuff

[elder apex]

no, but it will block you from uploading stuff

because when one item fills up it will block

ie. if you are sending iron rods, screws, and wire when the rods slot fills up it will block the uploader the next time a rod is sent to it

basically, use different DDs for each type of item

[barren eagle]

Just move to phase 2, my first game

[grizzled lotus]

I've had a few runs, but honestly once I set up different factories for different stuff it made the game much easier. instead of trying to intersect and connect everything such as using one iron node for smart plating and plates and rods etc

in the starting area there's a bunch of nodes together, I usually set up my smart plate factory first, then the other stuff that's important such as iron plates and reinforced plates. if you run out of nodes, try to expand

[barren eagle]

I made that, 1 for smart plates and the other for the basics iron pieces, and in my base I have two more pure iron nodes, which is the best way to uses it any advice you can give me????

[barren eagle]

Just to now, I saw there is trains in late game, but for now the best option is dropping belts from one side to another, and another things, srry bothering, shall I do a big storage

[grizzled lotus]

if you're mkaing extra parts make a storage container too. if you don't your factory will get stuck at 200 iron plates, but if there's storage it can store more

[grizzled lotus]

if you're setting up what you need, then try to unlock more stuff in the Hub, do research in the MAM and explore the area

building a factory is a big part of the game, but it's not the only part

[viral tendon]

Just ai limitr production and uranium fuel rods are donee

[grizzled lotus]

can I put a hole in the foundation for me climb into?

I built a foundation above my ladder

using foundation holes, starting to think they're more trouble than they're worth

[elder apex]

use one of the Inner Corner Extensions or some variant to make an opening. #screenshots message

[stray thicket]

Am I the only one who finds it annoying that the base biomass burners have different effeciencies than the normal ones?

[grizzled lotus]

pretty

[stray thicket]

Was it always like that?

[hard ivy]

They have the same efficiency. Just different power output

[lunar sparrow]

could someone help me? https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/1393313194922999979

[south sinew]

@bleak crypt you can make a 4x4 blueprint that includes the packager and unpackager so that you don't really have to care about that stuff; it's like a blender in a box

[stray thicket]

Right but it burns through fuel faster

[frozen ingot]

nope, it bugs me a bit too 😄

[hard ivy]

I just stop using the HUB ones after I have the standalone ones

[stray thicket]

I've never noticed it before so my guess is that they changed it so that the base biomass burners wouldn't slurp up as much biomass

[frozen ingot]

probably!

[stray thicket]

Also since when do trees explode into gaint blobs when cut down lmfao

[frozen ingot]

i'm sure there's good reason behind it. I eventually stop using them so ii can refill at the same time - and of course now since 1.0 (?) you can semi-automate them

[willow glen]

My justification now would be “well you can’t automatically feed the HUB ones” but tbh they were more efficient before that got added

[stray thicket]

I've always found the whole biofuel gathering process at the start way to tedious

would've hoped the biomass burners effeciency got improved

[frozen ingot]

i don't find it much of an issue

[south sinew]

biomass is pretty awful yeah

doesn't fit the game at all

[frozen ingot]

and i think it is meant to be slightly tedious in order to make coal power a w e s o m e

urgh, that doesn't work well 😄

[peak wasp]

Hey question

Is there any reason why I should be using 2600 screws a minute?

[frozen ingot]

and once you get the chainsaw it's easy, and i think it is meant to encourage exploration as well, which is one of the three pillars of the game arguably

[peak wasp]

And using 45 constructor's to do so

[stray thicket]

prob but it's a weird gameplay loop that doesn't fit in the game that well. Satisfactory isn't much of a hardcore grind in that sense

[frozen ingot]

guess i just disagree with you then 😉 😄

[willow glen]

It depends, if you never use alt recipes then that is not a crazy amount for phase 4

[peak wasp]

Heavy frames

[south sinew]

the real issue is that biomass burners punish automation, but the handcrafting system is terrible

[peak wasp]

Going for 30 a minute

[south sinew]

so it's a lose-lose situation

[willow glen]

but I’d highly recommend looking into alts by that point. In this case, encased frames is my preferred alt

[peak wasp]

I am using encased frames but bolted reinforced

The bolted reinforced plates

[hard ivy]

once you're past steel, the only reason to make screws is copper rotor. all other screw-using recipes are terrible

[peak wasp]

I was thinking of using steel to make screws

[willow glen]

ah yeah I like adhered. Rubber is cheap, it sounds like it’s added complexity but I find importing rubber easier than a giant screw factory lol

[hard ivy]

use stitched plate and steeled frame instead

[peak wasp]

Also got my massive sky highways

Basically I use a giant sky highway to import resources around the map

[peak wasp]

I do need to produce more rubber...because the side effect is what I need more of

The basic rubber recipe makes a resin I can use for synthetic fabric

[willow glen]

Sounds pretty normal, terrain has pathways but they’re inconvenient after phase 2 lol

[peak wasp]

Honestly I might just retire my land base

Would it be weird to make sky bases?

[mystic oriole]

would it be fun to make a sky base?

[willow glen]

If you can get all 4 of recycled rubber, recycled plastic, heavy oil residue, and diluted fuel (or diluted packaged fuel), that’s the endgame plastic and rubber mix right there. Even without it there’s tons of oil tho.

[peak wasp]

It could be having everything in a place where I don't need to deal with the terrain

So another question for you guys

Is it efficient to bottle up liquids

[willow glen]

ultimately at some point you either have to build around the terrain or build in the sky. I think most choose the sky

[drowsy arch]

lol, I'm still waiting for a SkyFactory mod like Minecraft has.

[peak wasp]

Like I could either do massive sums of pumps to get up into a sky base...or I could bottle it up on one end and unbottle it when it gets to the top

[mystic oriole]

of course, verticality does help with efficiency.

[willow glen]

Answer depends on context

[peak wasp]

Or I could do all the fluid stuff at the bottom and important the resulting solids to the top

Or...another option I could do

...can train rails go up ramps

Because massive train networks for fluids could also work

[willow glen]

Both sounds fun, if you’re worried about efficiency the break even point for mk2 pumps is 100M; 2 packagers use less than 3 pumps

but ultimately pumps aren’t draining much of my power, I don’t worry about them

[south sinew]

although the 3 pumps can pump way more fluid than the 2 packagers can package/unpackage

[peak wasp]

How high is this

[mystic oriole]

snoop dog?

[willow glen]

Wall is 4M tall, so that would be 25 of them

[peak wasp]

#screenshots message

[south sinew]

probably less than 100, but honestly, just use pumps, packaging fluids is annoying

[willow glen]

I’d probably just use pumps too

[peak wasp]

Is there a command for how high something is

[civic oar]

random question what is the m^2 conversion of extraction for crude oil to what it says on the parts page cus it says on the parts page i need 60/min to make 40/min of fuel which is what im going for. is this in m^2 value or is this in a different value all together

[south sinew]

all fluids are measured in m^3

[civic oar]

okay thank you

[peak wasp]

it's over 50 walls down

[viral tendon]

Mk 3 disgner sucks for storage containers

Is there any way i could get blueprint for the most amount of industrial containers connected?

[arctic isle]

HOW DO I GET UNDER THE MESH MY SHIT JUST FELL TROUGH WHEN I DIED

[viral tendon]

Is there like a website for blueprints

[civic oar]

also last question i swear, can liquids in pipes go in a flat 2d direction indefinently without needing a pump and only vertical movement is needing boosts?

[civic oar]

savescum, load a save to before you died if the stuff you had was important

dont make a save go back to last autosave

[south sinew]

yes, the only restrictions are about moving upwards vertically

[arctic isle]

THX

[civic oar]

thank you and thank god for that

[smoky reef]

hey given 5 joker slots whats the most efficient combination of photographs and chads

[gaunt gyro]

Anyone else ever experience a bug where one of your blueprints is invisible?

I made a basic 4 Assembler blueprint, but when I place it, I can see 4 floating assemblers but nothing else. Yet there's still collision with the invisible buildings.I can't blueprint dismantle it either

Meanwhile I have a mirrored version of it that is perfectly fine

[hard ivy]

Are you sure you're in the right server?

[smoky reef]

LMAO

woops!! apologies

[abstract trail]

#math-and-meta

[barren eagle]

genuinely a silly question, in order to extract the coal and transport de coal to the coal generator, shall I put biomass generator where the drills are??? or what???? start with the biomass generator, and then when the coals generator are producing enought energy change to this coals generator, for auto-supply?

[viral tendon]

It's been so long since i've seen coal gen i forgot how they look 😭

When i saw the i was surprised

[south sinew]

yeah you have to kickstart it with biomass power

once the coal generators have enough coal and water and are enough then you can remove the biomass

you can handmine coal or use automated miners, but you can't handmine water, so you have to use biomass power to start the system

[foggy heart]

Any tips when starting out with oil?
I have 900 crude oil pm, I'm thinking 300 to make 200 plastic, 300 to make 200 rubber and then 300 for fuel? What should I do with with the heavy oil residue? make more fuel?

[south sinew]

do you have any hard drives available

the #1 tip is that oil alts are insanely overpowered

[tropic kelp]

is 11.25 reinforced plates per minute good for do i need to add 5.625 more plates

[sour ledge]

What I spent a lot of time on: Integrating a hypertube network with cannon entrances/exits to my rail, to ensure rapid transit station to station (or intersection to intersection)

What I end up actually using: A simple blueprint with 8 cannons, one north, northeast, east, etc. to launch me into the roughly right direction.

The hypertube along rail idea seemed great, but over time as the number of intersections grew its stop and go stop and go so i find it easier to just... launch off...

[foggy heart]

I do but no rescans left and nothing for oil recipes. Shall I go hard drive hunting before bothering with setting up oil?

[south sinew]

nahhhh, when you first set up oil, it's no big deal to be suboptimal, you really just want to get some oil products going so you can progress, fuel your Jetpack, etc

[foggy heart]

@south sinew okay cool, so does this look okay to start with?

[hard ivy]

You'll want alts when you're making a lot of plastic/rubber, because with the right combination, you'll need up to 4.5 times less oil.

[south sinew]

yeah, you can start with that and put the heavy oil residue into fuel

[foggy heart]

okay great, thanks for the help! 🙂

[south sinew]

you probably don't have any giant power demands right now, if you can coax a few GW out of fuel, that will do you for a while

[whole crystal]

how long can you go between power towers

[viral tendon]

So if i have some excesdsive liquid, can i just connect it to packager so the excesisve thing goes there? WIll that mess up the whole production or no

[hard ivy]

!wikisearch power+tower

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=power+tower

[whole crystal]

thanks

[viral tendon]

Turns out i wasn't making enough of everything for my 15 manufactures but instead of 15 i was making for 11

Now i have to redo literally everythinf

This game sucks

[hard ivy]

no u

[steady glade]

skill issue

[hard ivy]

do the math correctly next time 😛

[viral tendon]

It wasn't about math

I just forgot about 15 manufactureres

Litearlly forgot that they exist

I mean about 4 out of 15

There was 19 but after i found out i forgot about some of them i decided to screw 4 of them

[vestal ore]

is there anything i can do to get rid of exessive liquids in pipes? like an awesome sink but for liquids. Or do i have to flush them manually?

[viral tendon]

Packager probably

[hard ivy]

convert them into something else that can be used or sunk

[viral tendon]

Or use them for another recipes and then sink them

Like hor that can be turned into coke

But you'll have to do exactly right math

[vestal ore]

oh, that makes sense, thank you

[indigo dock]

hi

[warm hinge]

Did the devs patch the infinite conveyor lift?

[willow glen]

What do you mean? If you line up two conveyer floor holes it can go,,, well I’ve only tested 200m, but possibly infinity

[warm hinge]

Well in reason it can go to the max build height

But I can’t do the trick

Unless I did not line them up

[willow glen]

Build a guide, I use temporary walls straight up

that will make sure the foundations always line up

[gaunt gyro]

Anyone ever have a bug where your blueprint places but is invisible and you can't dismantle it?

[hard ivy]

you either have to use the world grid, or connect both top and bottom foundation to the same foundation/wall grid

[naive pendant]

I always did the infinite lift via placing foundation 1, huge vertical wall, foundation 2. That way they guarantee align.

[elder apex]

why not just vertical zoop a 4m foundation straight up?

[naive pendant]

Many options, yes.

[leaden ether]

Man why are there so many mercer spheres on the map :D There are so many more than you could possibly need for the DDs. Like generally 50 DDs is probably overkill but there are almost 300 spheres on the map.

[hard ivy]

Remember that research takes 100+

[mortal ginkgo]

So that even a casual player can get the "get 150" achievement.
Not everything need to be collected, imagine majority of it being missed considering game doesn't even need you to go around the whole world.
Multiple DDs can make it truly fast to get stuff if you are mass building.
Research takes a lot of them too.

etc etc.

[leaden ether]

Oh yeah I forgot it was that many

I remember looking at my initial play thgough on SCIM after all the research and final DD count (I DDed everything not realising that wasn't at all necessary) The map was still littered with them everywhere.

[reef basin]

good for what? do you need 11.25/min or more?

[elder apex]

look at it this way. Having so many more than you need means you can skip out on getting the ones that are annoyingly difficult to get

[frigid nova]

The ‘'streamer mode’' is an option that says it disables licensed music from the game, can anyone tell me what those songs are? Because there are so many tunes in satisfactory, that it's scary to stream.

[shy mulch]

Saw a marker for a dearth crate, I don't remember dying recently and usually pick them up as soon as I respawn when I do, so it was a surprise to see. Spent 5 mins trying to find it, gave up and checked on SCIM, it's a 0,0,0 and contains 1 cable. Weird.

[candid loom]

is there a help channel?

im getting a plugin error, this is my first time ever installing so I dont have mods

[hard ivy]

#1038092680493801533

[shy mulch]

Most stuff is on the FAQ so have a quick read through that first

[candid loom]

i did

ty tho

[median shell]

It does nothing, devs just wanted streamers to feel comfortable

[viral tendon]

Love the mk 6 eblts, don't have to worry about resource rate, except when i need 2 pure nodes ...

We need mk 7 belts that'll do 2400/m

[leaden ether]

WOuld help, Working with outputs of 2k/4k and 8k and suddenly the Mk 6 belts are more than a little confining.

And a Mk4 blueprinter :)

[gritty sleet]

I am once again proposing an endgame weapon beyond the rifle, which is similar to Half Life 1's gluon gun. Pew pew continuous-stream plasma beam as long as you hold the trigger (and as long as you have ammo).

I had the idea that its ammo could use plutonium fuel rods, for when you don't want to do ficsonium (or store plutonium waste forever), but also don't want to just sink perfectly good plutonium fuel rods you've made to get rid of uranium waste.

[candid loom]

#1393360509763452969 message @sweet yew is getting this error

[sweet yew]

i do not know this woman

[foggy heart]

Do you guys think its better to process all the oil by the nodes and just transport finished products back to base, or train the liquids back to base and process?

[gritty sleet]

The first one.

[foggy heart]

Oil nodes are only about 1km from my main base for context, 900 oil pm

[gritty sleet]

Oil "shrinks" considerably once you process it

As far as efficiently transporting stuff

[foggy heart]

Aha

[elder apex]

oil nodes are generally nearby to water as well, which is almost always also a requirement for the oil based recipes

[foggy heart]

Also, can trains go both directions on a track or do i need a full loop?

[gritty sleet]

They can, but I'd highly recommend doing two single-direction side-by-side tracks.

Bidirectional rail makes things very complicated as soon as you want to add more than one train and signalling.

[leaden ether]

They can if you put an engine on each end. Looping through the station at either end is probably a little better. And if you ever need more than one train on the track, a dual track layout is best.

[foggy heart]

fair enough

so then would i need 2 side by side stations as well?

[leaden ether]

No they split into two singles basically and loop through the single station at either end (In the simplest case) So the entire thing becomes a single loop

[foggy heart]

Dont think I'm understaning correctly, will post a screenshot shortly of what I think i should do

[chrome glen]

I just fed an uranium fuel cell to a drone pad, expecting it to last a long time until plutonium cells gets there, yet it seems already gone and last fuel used is back to the backup, can drones not use a single fuel cell for multiple trips?

kinda spooked if the plutonium supply i expected to serve hundreds of drones turns out to not even serve its own factory

[foggy heart]

#screenshots

[leaden ether]

Nooo... :) Just have one track go through the station and then when you turn around have it bypass the station parallel to the one that went though it.

I mean there's different ways of orienting the track and the station but the track should only go through the station in one direction.

[foggy heart]

#screenshots think i got it

[leaden ether]

Yeah :)

[foggy heart]

okay nice, but now lets say my main base is b, oil is A, and another factory at C, so the line should essentially go B -> A -> B -> C -> B?

oh wait no

nvm i'll figure it out

confusing asf

[jaunty valley]

is there a way to make a truck load/unload at only specific stations? I have a line of truck stations next to each other and every truck is unloading at the first one they pass by, despite my path not starting there

[latent prawn]

unfortunately no, once a vehicle enters the station hitbox, the load/unload action triggers

such setups are very difficult to get right. when you exceed the belt speed of a station, you have a lot of unfun belting splitting and merging subsequent station's belts together and filtering it all

what works a little bit better is if you arrange the stations to be next to one another, so each vehicle can pull in and out of a station w/o affecting the other ones, but even with that vehicle pathing gets a little challenging and you have to start asking if trains make more sense to be using

[foggy heart]

im assuming trains use electricity, right?

[latent prawn]

yeah

[foggy heart]

nice

[latent prawn]

the rails also can carry power to remote factories

[south sinew]

nope

[wicked nacelle]

trains and stations and freight stations while loading/unloading (I think)

careful there's a bug where drones get stuck randomly half way thorugh their flight path. and you have to reload to fix it... more drones = more problems

[elder apex]

not sure how having to reload to fix something is that bad of a problem unless one has a gargantuan save that takes several minutes to load - and in that case 600 drones might actually be a reasonable number

[gritty sleet]

Aside from being extremely janky, since you might not notice it happened immediately until your factory runs out of supplies?

[solemn crystal]

nah you probbably need more

maybe gpu drivers

i have question

what are you using those drones for?

i use drones to catapult me across the map

with the hypertube things?

nah thats too boring

[tiny sigil]

Try only have the path nodes of one truck on at once and delete the pause nodes at the stations it shouldnt be at

[solemn crystal]

one time i made a player particle accelerator

that just deletes you

so id use it to get rid of nuclear waste

also i havent played satisfactory in a while did they fix the multiplayer stuff respawning bug thing

where trees would respawn on clients

[unkempt blade]

this tracks, existence is such a burden in a polluted world

[solemn crystal]

only 500k?

5% what

overclocking?

[unkempt blade]

500 kilomegawatts?!?!

[solemn crystal]

when you realize that biomass burners dont generate at a set clock speed anyway

theyre adaptive

unlike other generators

ok man

we get it
you like satisfactory

dude thats my total playtime on the game

[restive summit]

is there an optimal way of using bacon, paleberries and beryl nuts

[gritty sleet]

Not sure if trolling...

[solemn crystal]

OHHHH YEA

YOU GUYS ARE UNEMPLOYED!

I FORGOT ABOUT THAT

computer engineer with bad gammer ;-;

[unkempt blade]

hey now, I did my 1.0 save during work hours 😆

[solemn crystal]

bro

just use autocorrect

😔

why 1 handed

k

i wont judge

(i do want to judge)

[dusty horizon]

hello, what's the current maximum coupons/min build, exploiting the whole planet? xd

[unkempt blade]

don't be jelly, we can't all be awesome at satisfactory trains while getting paid or the economy would collsape

[solemn crystal]

like infinite or something i never tried that because i have a job

[solemn crystal]

im awesome at trains and get paid

its called the weekend
read about it

[unkempt blade]

oof you're actually working during work? Must be a rough life

[solemn crystal]

i get paid well

why woudnt i not work?

i find work enjoyable

[unkempt blade]

processing double negative

[restive summit]

?

[solemn crystal]

just research inhaler and use beryl nut for it

10 beryl nut = 1 inhaler

[restive summit]

do foods respawn or no

[solemn crystal]

they do

[unkempt blade]

bacons don't

[solemn crystal]

beryl nuts do

[restive summit]

are bacons useless

[solemn crystal]

sorta

[restive summit]

and paleberries

[solemn crystal]

paleberries r used to tame lizard doggo

[unkempt blade]

no? I mean why do you think that?

[restive summit]

wait so which foods respawn and what are their purposes

[solemn crystal]

beryl nut is used for the inhaler and mam research
paleberry is used for mam research and taming lizard doggos

and bacon is used for mam exclusively

[unkempt blade]

or making inhalers or eating it

[ivory condor]

You all are pale berries

[solemn crystal]

u can make inhalers with bacon?

[unkempt blade]

yes there are multiple inhaler recipes

[solemn crystal]

i am the furthest thin g from pale

[solemn crystal]

oh

you're*

i'd never make that mistake even while 1 handed

[gritty sleet]

They do, as long as you don't cut down the plant they grow on

[restive summit]

are they very imporant?

[solemn crystal]

not for bacons

[restive summit]

also do folioage like leaves and wood respawn? are they only used in biofuel?

[wicked nacelle]

No. and yes

[solemn crystal]

doggos? kinda they find rare loot. bacon? not that much because its finite. beryl nuts? peak

[restive summit]

do pale berries respawn

[solemn crystal]

i don't

[solemn crystal]

think so

[stable gorge]

Is there a compelling reason to start a new save rather than continue my 1.0.0.4 save from like 9 months ago?

[solemn crystal]

funyn elevator and new gear

[stable gorge]

I can still get that in my current save though, can't I?

[solemn crystal]

no

[restive summit]

what should i wait for amplification to craft

[solemn crystal]

personell elevator is in 1.1

[restive summit]

also do enemies respawn?

[solemn crystal]

w h a t

[solemn crystal]

yes and no

[restive summit]

i mean the somersloop output amplification, are there things i should wait to unlock that for to craft

[noble topaz]

what do i do with the issue of water, I'm at the south end of the map, with the closest water source on the map is pretty far away, and the only coal area (pure) is right next to me

[south sinew]

are you near the twin pillars or near the island?

[unkempt blade]

use tractors powered by coal to take coal to the water

[solemn crystal]

if you need more output while you have 3 power shards, then use it, its mainly for saving on resources

[south sinew]

not needed, there's plenty of coal+water spots

[noble topaz]

i just got started with phase 2, and coal power

[unkempt blade]

yeah but tractors are more fun

[south sinew]

there's water spots not far from both pure coal nodes in the south end of the map

[solemn crystal]

try and find a coal node near the water

[noble topaz]

the 2 pillars connected to each other?

[restive summit]

anything early game require quartz

[south sinew]

yeah, if you go north a bit, you'll find a water spot, on the other side of the big crater

[solemn crystal]

not if you consider the m.a.m early game

[south sinew]

it's used to make blade runners which is pretty amazing so rushing a few hundred quartz is well worth it

[solemn crystal]

throw trucks off the void filled with it

[south sinew]

box it up

[wicked nacelle]

it's pretty lame if you don'e refine it and then either sink it or burn it

[noble topaz]

thats the water area i was talking about, is there any water area closer to me?

[solemn crystal]

you cant sink

[wicked nacelle]

"refine it adn then either sink it or burn it"

[unkempt blade]

upgrade to plutonium and then to ficsonium

[noble topaz]

doggos into void

[viral tendon]

Plutonium fuel rods then use them to power power plants and store plutnoium waste cuz it makes like 1/m

[solemn crystal]

how the hell do you refine nuclear waste

[wicked nacelle]

you turn it into the next tier of fuel rod

[solemn crystal]

keep inventory:

[south sinew]

There's a very small water area right next to that pure coal node, but it's not big enough for actual coal power use. Better to just belt the coal across the crater, that's what I did

[noble topaz]

lets game it out's way of dealing with his nuclear waste issues

[restive summit]

should i wait until i unlock production amplification to craft alien protein/dna capsules and power shards

[solemn crystal]

the fk u mean next tier of fuel rod

[wicked nacelle]

uranium waste -> plutonium fuel rod plutonium waste -> ficsonium fuel rod

[solemn crystal]

theres more than nuclear now?

[south sinew]

if possible

[solemn crystal]

W H A T ?

[wicked nacelle]

you can wiki it if you want more.

[unkempt blade]

Sorry you're only 400hr in. You'll see one day

[solemn crystal]

THE 400 HOURS WERE FROM UPDATE 6-

[restive summit]

are those the only things i should wait for amplification to craft

[south sinew]

you could also consider waiting to craft inhalers but that's about it

[unkempt blade]

U6 had two tiers of nuclear 🙂

[south sinew]

and you don't have to wait if you don't want to

[solemn crystal]

no it did not ;-;

dude just throw it off the map

[unkempt blade]

yep - got added in U4

[solemn crystal]

what

[noble topaz]

UHH

#screenshots message

[solemn crystal]

i never got to tier 8 id always have to make a new save for the next upd
but i never knew it was that early in

[noble topaz]

what do i do now

[solemn crystal]

wait does sam ore have a use now

[south sinew]

yes

it's extremely useful

[solemn crystal]

does it like

teleport itesm or something

[south sinew]

dimensional depot

[solemn crystal]

the what

[south sinew]

you can automate putting items in the magic cloud and then you can build stuff with them as if they were in your inventory

[solemn crystal]

so its wireless conveyor belts?

[south sinew]

sorta, but you can't automate unloading

[solemn crystal]

ah

[noble topaz]

(almost) unlimited inv

[solemn crystal]

dropbox

[noble topaz]

basically

[restive summit]

why would i do that?

[solemn crystal]

i assume you cant hold infinite of the same item right

[south sinew]

same as the others; you get more results for your manually collected resources if you sloop it

[south sinew]

no it's pretty small actually

[wicked nacelle]

5 stacks of each item type

[south sinew]

it's still a big improvement over not having it, but it's far from unlimited or almost unlimited

[solemn crystal]

i heard theres something called an alien power augmenter

[noble topaz]

at the start its one stack of everything

[noble topaz]

but you can upgrade it

[south sinew]

super late game only

[solemn crystal]

how super late game tho

which tier

[wicked nacelle]

You can do it as early as you find computers

[solemn crystal]

time to assemble my army of lizard doggos

to find me compuitiers

[wicked nacelle]

You can find computers at crash sites

[south sinew]

you can make APAs in like tier 5 or 6 I think, but they're not actually useful before you have like 100GW of power at least, and even then, it's questionable

[solemn crystal]

wait wasnt there that save file editor a while back wher u could put stuff in storage containers

[wicked nacelle]

SCIM

[solemn crystal]

wasnt it like satisfactory calculator

[wicked nacelle]

Yes

[solemn crystal]

great

[south sinew]

the main issue is that APAs cost quite a few sloops so you generally get more by using the sloops in production rather than to make APAs

[solemn crystal]

id better get to sleeping

[wicked nacelle]

10

[solemn crystal]

arent there like 100 sloops

[solemn crystal]

so i can only make 10 of those things?

doesnt it give like free power

500 mw static..

[wicked nacelle]

It gives 10% of base power without munchies

[south sinew]

yeah, but going out and actually farming them is pretty tedious, and also, 10 sloops per APA means you're missing out on quite a lot of production bonus

[solemn crystal]

500 x 10 is 5000 and 5000 with the extra energy is around like 7k or soemthing

[solemn crystal]

wdym production bonus

OHH THE MULTIPLY THINGS?

[south sinew]

yeah

[wicked nacelle]

And it’s 30% bonus if you feed them scooby snacks

[south sinew]

sloop productivity bonus is obviously pretty damn good

[solemn crystal]

no thanks ill stick to making my factory bigger

my factory dosent use power shards

its just underclocking and alot of machine

[south sinew]

later in the game you can make synthetic power shards now

[solemn crystal]

id better get to sleep

[south sinew]

I have like 6000 shards

[solemn crystal]

gotta wake up early tmrw

bye :>

[restive summit]

besides for mam and dimensional depot are mercer spheres useless

[wicked nacelle]

Besides everything stuff is used for everything is worthless

Wiki tells you what stuff is used for

[green fiber]

mercer spheres are only for the depot and depot research in the MAM, yes

[small bear]

Does that mean that people actually use a Lot of Power shards in the Endgame? I guess its Like a machine mk2 If you can Just build them. ^^

[south sinew]

Not much reason not to

[viral tendon]

Yeah, in endgame you'll use a lot of power

After completing phase 4 exactly

Like shit ton

[cerulean gorge]

hi

[timid rune]

Eventually I need to think about 1500 dark matter crystals/min -_-

[meager kiln]

anyone have a pref of trains vs belts for a set distance? like 1km away? train?

[cerulean gorge]

im new, idk what im doing

[timid rune]

well I am certain about that with your name

(at least I am not looking forward to buiilding 140 extra refineries :D)

[cerulean gorge]

3 cats walk into a bar, with a single braincell amongst the vast populace of cats, they engage in combat and create a discord account

i'm on hub upgrade 6 and i've yet to touch conveyor belts

[lavish burrow]

wait what is this about cats

[cerulean gorge]

catisfactory

[restive summit]

what are the best alternate recipes for steel beams and pipes

[zinc heron]

this game is inanely tedious

every time i build something i go back and build it more later

my fuel generator power went from 4 generators to 20

[lavish burrow]

There's nothing wrong with finding that tedious, but it might just mean this genre isn't your cup of tea.

[zinc heron]

no tediious in the best way possible

theres always something else to do while your waiting for something to finish up

[lavish burrow]

Ah, I actually understand that better than you might think.

Except in my case it's more "there's always something else to procrastinate on".

[zinc heron]

yes

i am now the furthest ive been ever in this or any save

[zinc heron]

do you like subnautica?

[lavish burrow]

I like it in theory but it causes me too much anxiety even to watch others play it.

[zinc heron]

i played it long before i ever found satisfactory and i enjoyed it alot but it was as ominous as this game is tedious

[lavish burrow]

As in, good-ominous?

[zinc heron]

95% of the time yes

[lavish burrow]

Yeah, I can relate to that feeling. Where something is unsettling or eerie or creepy but in a way that for some reason is really cool?

[zinc heron]

theres alot of searching dark caves and seeing giant leviathans unexpectedly

[lavish burrow]

The reason I can't really tolerate subnautica is because I don't deal well with getting snuck up on.

[zinc heron]

the story line has alot of similarity to satisfactory too. you get to this planet and basically figure out wtf the aliens were doing lol

[zinc heron]

very valid

[foggy heart]

I have my main base plus 3 factories scattered around and im wondering if its better to have a train doing a full circle, passing by all the factories and then unloading everything at my main base, or have different lines for each factory?

[zinc heron]

i have yet to touch any transportation

[foggy heart]

Also im curios how I would sort everything if the train does a full circle? Would smart splitters work or would I need programmable splitters?

[wicked nacelle]

There is no reason to bring everything back to one place.

[cerulean gorge]

i've only automated iron/copper bars, i'm still relying on biomass

[wicked nacelle]

If you don’t have one part per car you have to sink excess out of smart splitters. It’s not a good idea unless you have a very carefully measured sushi line or you don’t get proper manifold behaviors from your sources

[viral tendon]

#screenshots message Soon it will power a lot of power plants

[wicked nacelle]

Any intermidiary parts with high enough throughput to need a train should be built where they are needed

You would never for example train reinforced plates

[zinc heron]

i havent gotten far but one thing that helped alot

[wicked nacelle]

Unless you. Were doing it to be silly

[zinc heron]

was i made a 2x8 biomass burner blueprint and used constructors to turn alien product into biomass then to solid bio mass

just kill a few things while youre away from base and just let the automation do the rest instead of trying to keep up with power until i got coal

[wicked nacelle]

For hdd power requirements? Cuz otherwise that seems excessive.

8 biomass burners should get you to coal

[zinc heron]

this was very early on. now i just use it to jumpstart my coal or fuel generators if im making them in a new spot

[cerulean gorge]

how long do i have to wait until coal :/

[zinc heron]

not long at all

[foggy heart]

#screenshots uhm wtf??? where the water???

[zinc heron]

just keep up with those milestones and it gomes fairly early in the game

[zinc heron]

i was thirsty

[foggy heart]

Yeah so i got all the low tier things being made at the main base, another base is doing all my steel, another one for motors, and the 3rd is for all my oil stuff

[fathom shuttle]

Can I blueprint water extractors?

That’s 800GW

A 32 reactor set up is already plenty enough

Lol that’s rough

[foggy heart]

Just tried placing the blueprint designer in water and it doesnt work unfortunately

[leaden ether]

You could probably make a terrawatt of power using al the oil

[foggy heart]

Well, on a foundation 1m under water

[barren eagle]

Hey, I have 5 constructor doing iron rod, the last one to 75%, and then other two constructor doing iron plate the last one to 50%, but only the rods one, have always 100 iron ingonts inside, will ever the last two for the iron plates be full?

[cerulean gorge]

does it matter which order i do the hub achievements in?

[leaden ether]

Not as a rule no.

O.o

[white dawn]

In a manifold, the last two machines in the manifold will generally have close to 0 items in their input buffer. Once the manifold is fully warmed up, they'll receive their materials just in time to start the next cycle. All the other machines in the manifold should have a basically-always-full input buffer

If you want, you can pre-fill the input buffers with material, if that makes you feel better. That will also make the manifold not require any warm-up time (or at least extremely little warm-up time)

[barren eagle]

What you mean by warming up, I ve been nearly hours and the last two of iron plates, nevers full up and slow down the production, I think

[cerulean gorge]

what're some tips for someone who just started 🐟

[white dawn]

Watch their indicator bars on the machines -- if the manifold's been running for awhile, they should be perpetually green. If they do turn to yellow at some point, then either you're not supplying quite enough material to the manifold, or the manifold's not warmed up enough

[white dawn]

The "warm-up" time on a manifold is basically: when you start, the first machine in the line is getting 50% of the material, and all the machines after it are sharing the 50%. That first one is getting material far more quickly than it needs, so eventually that fills up, and it starts consuming only exactly what it needs. Then the next machine in the manifold is getting 50% of what's left, which will be "too fast," and the ones after it will be starving for awhile

But then eventually, all but the last two machines in the manifold will have their input buffers totally full, and the last two machines will be getting just enough to do their production at 100%

It can just take a little while for all those machines to fill up, so it's a little while until the whole thing's running at 100% efficiency. "Warm-up" time isn't an official term or anything, of course. Just what I call it.

[white dawn]

Have fun, ignore any advice you read online (including in here), explore the game at your own pace. :)

Don't ignore the advice to have fun, though. That one's important!

[cerulean gorge]

if i have 2 automated lines that focus on iron/copper bars, should i focus on making mk1 miners to start bringing the materiels straight to the smelters?

[white dawn]

If you start having some problems that you're having trouble figuring out on your own and it's impacting your enjoyment, definitely feel free to ask. But I'd recommend avoiding youtube/discord/etc while playing the game for the first time. It's a lot of fun to learn the game and explore at your own pace, without comparing your own stuff to other rando folks

[barren eagle]

Did the drill mk2, help me with that, shall I put belt mk2 or that is over extended, I mean unecesary

Srry for my english ajjajaj

[cerulean gorge]

how concerned should i be about biomass fuel running dry, i have 1000 in stock but i f eel like it's not enough

[white dawn]

Always just work backwards from your target. You decide you want to make X/min rotors. So that requires Y/min rods and Z/min screws (if you're using the vanilla recipe). Those'll require certain resources beyond that, etc. Eventually you end up at ores, and that'll tell you how much iron/min you need, etc.

So then find a node which can support that much iron/min and hook that up. Or maybe a couple of impure nodes would do fine

If you need a mk2 miner to get that rate, then sure -- use the mk2 miner.

[white dawn]

You'll eventually unlock fully-automatable power. I wouldn't sweat it too much. You will doubtless have to go out and collect more before you get to the next power stage, but there's way more biomass on the map than you're ever going to consume

[cerulean gorge]

don't underestimate my inefficiency 🐟

should i make seperate lines that make certain products (for iron and copper)

[white dawn]

Up to you! But I do always recommend this strategy: https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:Independency

[barren eagle]

So, sorry for bothering you, but can you help me with some doubts I have in desing or wich ever chat you think is properly for sending images

[white dawn]

Heh, no worries! #1038092680493801533 is a great place for questions which require images and such. #math-and-meta could be appropriate for your question as well

It's mostly only this channel which doesn't allow screenshots. :)

[viral tendon]

#screenshots message Which ones the final container chat please

[steady glade]

looks pretty clear to me

[barren eagle]

Ok thanks, I'll send it to screenshots

[steady glade]

you clearly marked which one is the final chest

[viral tendon]

Can we take the fucking joke 💔

[white dawn]

#screenshots is actually pretty bad for asking questions which need screenshots, because the screenshots and the discussion end up being split over two channels, btw.

[cerulean gorge]

So iron rods/plates are the f unadmental materials so there's not really a need to stop at iron bars

[white dawn]

#1038092680493801533 , #math-and-meta , #design-and-architecture are all better, depending on what sort of question you're asking

[barren eagle]

I send it

[viral tendon]

Make more power 😭???

Why do you make only 22k MW's with nuclear

[gloomy granite]

how many doggos am I allowed to have per square meter

[viral tendon]

3 million

Yeah

It is

You make 22 000 000 MWS????

Bro WHAT

What could possibly use 30 millions of MW

Why the fuck could you posisbly need 5 fcuknig thousands of dark matter crystal per minute

How does your storage for it even looks like

Can mk 6 belts even support your power 💔

So you basically have infnite loop of things?

[hearty hollow]

dude how strong is ur cpu

[viral tendon]

4 sinks just for 1 item production is crazy

[viral tendon]

He uses 2 epycs don't mind him

Welp i'm not suprised

[hearty hollow]

ok nvm hes the goat

[viral tendon]

Ofc the coder 💔

If you have money for 5090 and 14900 just buy server computer atp

With threadrippers

2 of them will do the trick

Idk why i'm not surprised to hear that

Can we stop flexing atp

Just say you don't have anything better to do

Do i even have to say anything

[boreal musk]

is 4000 cell/min even possible with the resources in the map, especially sam, unless you use mods for it

[sly delta]

more time to dedicate to ficsit 👷

[viral tendon]

Ficsit approves your behaviour

How can one acquire 40 fps with 14900k and 5090

How much ram you got again

[foggy heart]

what do I do if I need a splitter on a pipe

[leaden ether]

with todays top end video cards, nearly every game is CPU bound. Could have a 9090ti and wouldn;t get another single FPS out of it

[dreamy bane]

how do i scan for creatues on my scanner? it just shows ores

[viral tendon]

You've got 5090 14900 and only 24 gigbs? Are we deadass 💔

[leaden ether]

And not even thredrippers will help becuse games virtually always have one thread sucking down a single core at 100% and a hundred more cores wouldn't help either

[viral tendon]

Bet it would be more if you didn't have only 24 gigabytes

[dreamy bane]

some help yall? would be much appreciated

[boreal musk]

object scanner is an equipment built from workshop

[viral tendon]

You'd probably need 9950x3d for sper computer

[boreal musk]

its different from resource scanner using V

[dreamy bane]

so i need a seperate scanner for creatures?