satisfactory

[leaden ether]

I think there is a ways of raising the object limit n a settings file. Try searching the net for raising the UE5 object limit or something

[sullen gull]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Unreal_Engine

Instructions there.

Also, there is a mod you can use to show current UObject count if you would like.

That crash doesn't always occur because of too many objects. I get it frequently after playing a long time and slamming down blueprints at a quick pace.

[quiet gust]

probably wont need yet im nearly done with my factory

[sullen gull]

Also, earlier my save was saying it was at 2,000,000+ objects, which I know it's nowhere near that. There is some sort of bug I believe where it's not clearing out the ubjects and they build up over time.

[leaden ether]

Yeah 1.0 would do that after 10-12 hours of playing. 1.1 seems to be worse and I've goten it after just 3-4 hours a number of times now. Though of course reloading the last save always works, but if your save crashes on loading then....

[quiet gust]

i cant find where the obbject max is

[sullen gull]

2,168,688

[quiet gust]

i went to where the wiki told me to

[sullen gull]

Oh, you probably have to add that line.

[quiet gust]

ohhh

[shy fog]

not entirely... I revel in the ones

[gloomy heart]

Is it possible to get a notification somehow whenever my power demand exceeds the power supply (i have backup batteries)

[quiet gust]

not the nonbinary indivduals

[sullen gull]

Mmmm, need another ceaser... brb

[quiet gust]

not really

[sullen gull]

Not if your batteries take over. You'd have to keep an eye on it manually. without mods.

[quiet gust]

i wonder how long ive been at the object limit cause i just read the crash log

[shy fog]

batteries are emergency food... build 1000 of them

[quiet gust]

build 1 billion

😉

[frail sleet]

there's a bug in 1.1 that makes uobjects "leak" and hit the limit every 2-4 hours unless you raise the limit

[quiet gust]

that makes sense

i increased it anyways

[shy fog]

imagine you are the tetris piece

[quiet gust]

maybe i can open the map now

i havent been able to open the map for the last 20 hours

[unkempt yew]

how do i use a blueprint on satisfactory calculator i have it in game but the blue print does not show up

[noble topaz]

hai chat! Just got the game officially (first played via frowned upon methods)
wish i could post images here (and i had my screenshot somewhere) so i could send a very happy ficsit pioneer about to start building their planet size factory

[shy fog]

did you forget to unlock the map?

[quiet gust]

yes thats why i have map markers everywhere

[unkempt yew]

how do i use a blueprint on satisfactory calculator i have it in game but the blue print does not show up

[quiet gust]

you can just not in this channel

my game is taking forever to boot up

ruh roh

[jaunty jewel]

#screenshots , #math-and-meta or #design-and-architecture depending where it should go

based on what you said screenshots is best for you

[unkempt yew]

@quiet gust do you know how to use satisfactory

calculator

[quiet gust]

yes

ish

[unkempt yew]

can you show me if you have time

[quiet gust]

my game still crashes whenever i open the map

[sullen gull]

@noble topaz Also, if it's a quest for help, it's best to create a thread in #1038092680493801533 with screenshots there

[unkempt yew]

can you show me if you have time

[sullen gull]

Send me the save?

[shy fog]

I think it's time I do excessive stupid

build everything via sink

[quiet gust]

before i do i forgot to save th eupdate to the uobject limit lmao

lemme try that

[sullen gull]

Been there, done that, about 100 times 🤣

[quiet gust]

it pains me to say this but i am computer dumb, is that just like, usable ram. If so 16 gig (yes ill be getting more at some point)

[sullen gull]

Ram on your video card, or dedicated to video

[quiet gust]

ummm

something im sure

a number hopefully

[sullen gull]

You can right click on the task bar and open Task Manager, and check the performance tab.

Then click on the GPU

[quiet gust]

8 gigs i think

i put it in screenshots

[sullen gull]

Yeah, 8gb

[quiet gust]

I CAN FINALLY OPENT THEM MAPPPPP

[sullen gull]

on lock

[quiet gust]

which tells me i have been at the uobject limit ( or at least easily reached it since the 1.1 update) for about 100 hours now

crazy what reading a crash log can do to help

[unkempt yew]

how do i use a blueprint on satisfactory calculator i have it in game but the blue print does not show up

[quiet gust]

wym

[wicked nacelle]

how would you "use a blueporint"?

[quiet gust]

did you add it to the blueprints folder

[unkempt yew]

ya

and it does not show up in game

[wicked nacelle]

oh I thought you meant the production planner... mb

[quiet gust]

screen shot of the file please( and try to hide ur personal info

cause there are two file types for every blueprint

[unkempt yew]

we can just call to make it easyer

[quiet gust]

.sbpfg and .sbp

[unkempt yew]

if you can

it does not give a a sbpfg thing

[quiet gust]

i mispoke .sbpcfg

[unkempt yew]

ya still no thing

can you just call rq

[wicked nacelle]

one of the things i've alwaays wanted an option for is how long to hold mouse button while deconstructing to make it faster. But time hack 2x halves the deconstruction time 🙂

[quiet gust]

you can call

[unkempt yew]

@quiet gust

[mental crescent]

hi

[prisma parrot]

Is there a way to fix broken save?

[wicked nacelle]

what is a "broken save"?

can you just load a previous save?

[lost wagon]

this stupid splitter is snapping in the floor lift hole instead of the lift itself

[wicked nacelle]

yeah, scim actually has a better loader and a compliant save

[prisma parrot]

It's very weird, all three auto saves is broken ,and I don't no how the hell did I do that....

[wicked nacelle]

yeah go to https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/interactive-map and in the top right corner load your save in and then export it back out and try to load that

[prisma parrot]

What happened is I was playing the game and my computer crashed ,and after I restart my computer all three saves are broken...,.

[wicked nacelle]

computer crashing won't mess up old saves. maybe your game needs to be verified/re-downloaded?

if you post a savegame somewhere I'll try to load it for you

[velvet drum]

can i have a train bring in my plastic and also take out my final products or should i run 2 trains?

[prisma parrot]

I tried the web can load the save normally, but even if I save another save on that web the game still can't load the save

[wicked nacelle]

yeah, it's your game. your saves are fine

[leaden ether]

Yeah this sounds more ike a shader cache corruption or something.

[wicked nacelle]

can you start a new game? can you save and load your new game?

[prisma parrot]

That's what I thought, even if the computer crashing broke my save, it shouldn't affect the other old saves, cause at that moment those saves haven't been rewrite

[wicked nacelle]

so can you?

[prisma parrot]

Haven't try new game yet ,but my game can load my other world's save normally

[wicked nacelle]

mods?

[prisma parrot]

No mods

I have been playing the pure version

[wicked nacelle]

super weird. post your save game that you can't load somewhere like google drive and link it

[leaden ether]

One thing that can corrupt all three auto saves is that the game save gets corrupted as it is actually in memory running, then 15 minutes goes by and it overwrites all three saves with bad data. Would have to try older save files in that case :(

I create a new save file every day just in case.

[quiet gust]

i pinged the wrong guy mb

you will get screenshots when im done

thatll be in like aday or two

[prisma parrot]

That's awful...

[quiet gust]

but its really easy to finsh the game now that it doesnt crash every 5 seconds

[prisma parrot]

Ok let me try

[wicked nacelle]

dunno if you can dm files in discord but that would work too

[prisma parrot]

Doesn't seem I can post file here

Could I just dm you and send you the save?

[quiet gust]

u have to dm it and hope its not to large of a file

[prisma parrot]

OK

Not a big file ,just about 10M

[void belfry]

Ada can go straight to hell

How dare does she say I can't put Rocket Fuel into my coffee to get its energising effects

DON'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO MOM

[quiet gust]

the hell is a concord

[ivory condor]

Sony flop

[quiet gust]

just like ps4 fr

i have dementors

[ivory condor]

They spent somehow like 400m on a garbage game

[quiet gust]

chat is 60 biochemical scuplters per minute too much?

[ivory condor]

With some of the worst character design i have ever seen....

[void belfry]

Don't worry it was diverse and inclusive xD

[sullen gull]

Was a plane. Though I hear it may make a comeback

[ivory condor]

Everything DEI I have seen has been trash garbage that will forever haunt my memory

Let it be shows, games, DEI destroys everything it touches....

[void belfry]

Indeed including Canada

[sullen gull]

Ignorance at it's finest

[ivory condor]

Facts at its finest

[quiet gust]

my game is so damn laggy now

[ivory condor]

Look at Disney and how complete the destruction has been all in the name of DEI

[quiet gust]

at least it doesnt crash every lag spike

[ivory condor]

I know just saying facts but I agree

[sullen gull]

Umm, you are aware that they are against DEI right? Last I'll say anything, but DEI exists because bigots and fascists exist. That should tell you enough. If there wasn't such a thing as exclusion based on race, gender, religion, it wouldn't even be a topic. Those against are those completely misinformed, typically from the far-right. (I.e. ignorant individuals who thought the current cheeto head actually cared)

Greed is king for sure.

[void belfry]

Well if DEI was so great they'd actually be hiring qualified folks instead of just the talentless losers that create DEI based content we get now

If they were actually making good content I wouldn't have to go out of my way to avoid them

[quiet gust]

Oh my gah politic talk

[sullen gull]

You know, the sad part is that the majority of countries are in trouble because of that man thought pattern though. Yay for social media! 😒

I'm gonna go drink some more 🤣

[quiet gust]

what baout spide rpig

[sullen gull]

I vote for calling nuke hogs - Hulk hogs

[hexed dirge]

Т⁠о⁠ ⁠н⁠е⁠l⁠l⁠ ⁠w⁠і⁠т⁠н⁠ ⁠т⁠н⁠і⁠ѕ⁠ ⁠с⁠о⁠м⁠р⁠а⁠п⁠у⁠.⁠ ⁠І⁠'⁠м⁠ ⁠D⁠О⁠Х⁠Х⁠і⁠п⁠g⁠ ⁠е⁠v⁠е⁠r⁠у⁠ ⁠е⁠м⁠р⁠l⁠о⁠у⁠е⁠е⁠

[ivory condor]

Misinformed I been watching all of favorite shows, etc be destroyed because of DEI, what's happening with Disney is just one example

So to even suggest im misinformed, sorry that couldn't be further from the truth

[quiet gust]

what in the bloddy maga is going on here

[covert talon]

is caterium how you get lights?

[sullen gull]

Quartz Sorry, I was thinking of signs as lights. Otherwise you buy lights from the Awesome shop

[covert talon]

isnt it quickwire?

u need quickwire researcehd i think thtas caterium

[wicked nacelle]

so we fixed jacktx's save game. Somehow he had a 400,000,000 KM conveyor belt in his save. Deleted it in scim with two clicks, and game works great.

[sullen gull]

Yeah, you are correct.

[sullen gull]

Lol, like, literally?

[void belfry]

Most people didn't even have a name to DEI until game quality began to massively go downhill

[snow forum]

hey guys, having a throughput issue with trains. I'm trying to transport essentially 23100 iron a minute down from the desert to main base for iron related production. But my calculations based on each station taking in 2400 a minute, requires a train to stop there every 45 seconds, but for 25 seconds whilst the train is loading. I'm essentially losing 1000 ore during that 25 second period. Is there maybe a better way to do it that hopefully doesnt involve making my train even longer? it's already 19 freight cars long lmfao

[wicked nacelle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1390875990749610004/1390883227962441738/image.png?ex=6869e072&is=68688ef2&hm=023e95c928ae0d27c98a329fa00f2e1b7ce1a4df9786a5c4003d5444a5cb8529&

right clicked it, hit delete, downloaded it, and it opened perfectly

[sullen gull]

But, like bugged, or actually had that amount run i mean lol

[wicked nacelle]

I don't think you understand how wide the map is vs how long 400,000,000 km is 😛

the map is 8km x 6km

[sullen gull]

Yeah, I am well aware lol. That's why I'm here like lolwtf

[wicked nacelle]

this was a straight line 400,000,000km conveyor belt.

somehow his save got corrupted but likely the game kept running and overwrote his autosaves. that's why you gotta make named saves, too

[prisma parrot]

And the most crazy part is,the save I sent him is the oldest save file among all three auto saves, and in the other two newly saves ,you can't see that conveyor belt on SCIM, it's just like the game was trying to delete the bugged belt and didn't succeed

[leaden ether]

I kinda feel like I'm going to break something doing this...#screenshots message Like I'm doing a QA stress test on my own game -.-

[prisma parrot]

That's crazy

[leaden ether]

So you just looked around SCIM for something that looked weird?

[quiet gust]

Holy schieße

No I just like the word

Merde

[charred pumice]

jesus its 2600 AU. How the hell do you get a belt better measured in AU.

[quiet gust]

Belt all the way to earth

[frail sleet]

max throughput is around 1700 per cart due to the resource locking. Realistically i'd say that 1200 is much less likely to have you pulling your hair out.

Yes, this makes trains kind of suck.

[charred pumice]

a single AU is sun to earth. trying to belt to Voyager?

[pseudo perch]

whats the new file name for screenshots?

[charred pumice]

at the speed of light its... 2 weeks? holy shit.

[snow forum]

i assume resource locking is the 25 second loading time stopping the belts. and because the best we can do is 2400 a minute, you can't exactly put a container in front and put faster belts between to compensate

[sullen gull]

Located in %localappdata%\FactoryGame\Saved\Screenshots\Windows

[pseudo perch]

thanks

[sullen gull]

Or if you hit tab in photomode, there is a button to take you there.

[snow forum]

also @frail sleet https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/1390888488592867378

if you could help me solve this, I'd greatly appreciate it

[frail sleet]

Yeah.

The best that you can do is load 3200 items (32 stacks of 100 stack) in 80 seconds, then lock the station for 27.08 seconds so that you've loaded 3200 items in 107.08 seconds. That's ~1793/min.

[snow forum]

my super uber autism stops me from fully comprehending this shit lol, im mentally in a pickle

[velvet drum]

how exactly do you make a train loop to connect your factories. currently my trains all wait because they need to use the same track to get back to my base. how do i make it so they can go on at the same time

[snow forum]

as long as they're all going in the same direction. block signals, place em in intervals of slightly more than the train's length

[sullen gull]

Or dual rail system

[velvet drum]

so like a block signal on the "on ramp" to get on the main loop?

[void belfry]

Woot got rocket fuel

[snow forum]

I wouldn't know how you have your loop set up. Without knowing i can't really provide an answer sorry

[velvet drum]

how should i set it up tho

[boreal musk]

share your setup in ss, its hard to tell

also, train wont move as long as the block in front of them is occupied

when you have the signal hologram, you can see the colors on the rail, those are blocks

[velvet drum]

Like how can i have a big circle with branches off to go to different factories. Like a roundabout. If i try to do that now the trains will get blocked if theres a train already on the loop

[snow forum]

depends on what you're transporting, how many trains you have on the loop. so many variables. It's hard to give a good answer

[boreal musk]

roundabouts and intersection needs path signals

path in, block out

place it on every entry

[velvet drum]

What does that do

[boreal musk]

path signal reserves entire block for the said train, so the other train from other rail will be stopping until said intersection is clear

[void belfry]

By the way who likes 48 fuel generators

[velvet drum]

so can i have multiple trains on the loop at once or do they all need to wait because of the block

[boreal musk]

i recommend you to watch some train guides in youtube, they are very helpful

[boreal musk]

you mean roundabout? most of the time it only allows 1 train at the time to pass

[void belfry]

Because that's my stupidity I am making

[velvet drum]

like im assuming my big map wide loop is like a big roundabout. how can you get multiple trains to use the same loop

[boreal musk]

again, doesnt matter how big the roundabout is, it will only allow 1 at time

[velvet drum]

so how do people usually do their big train setups?

[boreal musk]

bcs when using path signal, roundabout and intersection becomes 1 block for its entirety

[velvet drum]

yeah

[boreal musk]

it mostly depends on your block signal placements, general approach it to have the gap of longest train in the network + 1 for each block signal

so all the trains will always moving, they wont stop

[wicked nacelle]

run 2 rails everywhere you want to go and then put the stations on "on/off ramps" from the two rails. If you build the "highway" right you can expand on it however you want just by making it a little bit longer each time you expand out

@velvet drum if you want more help, I've got nothing going on and can help you with some basics 1 on 1 if you want

[velvet drum]

how do you make it so mutliple trains going the same direction can be on the same track at the same time

[wicked nacelle]

the direction the signal is facing says what way trains are allowed to pass through it

[void belfry]

Excellent my power plants will soon be complete... Then once the power generation is done...then the bitches

[wicked nacelle]

so you just always put the signal on the right side (for the way the train is heading) and you can't have trains going opposite directions on the same track

[void belfry]

After all women love men who have a big power grid.

[velvet drum]

yeah but how do i have a way one track with multiple trains without them crashing into each other

[void belfry]

....right?

[leaden ether]

That seems a little excessive to me, I used like a 50 platform spacing and it worked fine. Once one train moves ahead and frees it's last block the train that follows will not running the first trains block ever again (Unless it's like severely loaded or something). I had 5 trains running on the same (dual) track loop with that spacing and they very rarely had to wait for a block to free up. Now when you are in the station area... yeah block signals end up being very short of course, but in open track it's not necessary to have them so close.

[wicked nacelle]

I don't understand "have a way one track"

[boreal musk]

please just use 2-way rail, make your life easier

[velvet drum]

if i make a 2 lane highway, everything on each rail goes the same direction. but the blocks will see that there is already a train on that track and not let another get on even if they're both going the same direction

[wicked nacelle]

you put signals down periodically to make more blocks for more trains to go at the same time

[leaden ether]

Best to not do that but you CAN do that with "bypass" tracks every now and then. Basically the single track temporarily splits into a dual track for a couple train lengths. Then one train can take the spur and wait off the main track til the other train passes. I did this on my firs track but quickly decided that dual tracks were much better in the end.

[velvet drum]

so I only make the train wait if another train is on the close part of the track that they might colide, but once all other trains are far enough past then the other train can hop on?

[wicked nacelle]

any weird setup can be made to work but the problem is every time you change anything you have to re-verify your entire track. with 2-way highway style you can change it basically all you want and all your old rail just keeps working

[wicked nacelle]

that's what signals do, yes

[boreal musk]

.

[leaden ether]

THere is also a savegame out there called "Train Bootcamp 4.2.sav" (May be a newer one now not sure) ANd it allows you to load it up and explains all kinds of train signalling with in world examples.

[vivid hinge]

if i have a drone carryign fuel in it will it drop the fuel into the receiving ports fuel port or unload port

or do i have to build a new drone port for each thing i wanna fuel

[lost wagon]

we can put pipes under the ground irl, so I will just clip all this shit and pretend I did like real life

[wicked nacelle]

it comes out the normal "dropoff port" and then you have it manifold into all the other drone port fuel inputs (including its own)

so one drone fuel getter supplies all the drone ports at the location

[vivid hinge]

so whats the best way to fuel my drones cus most of them are nowhere near good fuel sources

[sullen gull]

And just use a smart splitter to keep it separate. Although, having a dedicated fuel drop-off port won't affect throughput of other items

[vivid hinge]

do i have to make a new port for each one?

[wicked nacelle]

I make un-droned pickup drone ports and then have "getter" drone ports where I want the stuff - and I usually have a bunch at those locations so 1 is for fuel

[naive pendant]

@vivid hinge Drone your drones

[wicked nacelle]

the ones that are just remote pickup ports don't need fuel

[sullen gull]

I usually make my RF plant have a packager portion for drone fuel. And then have a drone port at each station dedicated for fuel that goes to the RF plant and picks it up.

[wicked nacelle]

This is exactly what I do. And that drone port doesn't have a drone either. I bootstrap with rocket fuel from DD for the fuel getting drone

[naive pendant]

It’s called the “one to many” or “many to one” concept for drones.

[wicked nacelle]

or at my nuclear factory, I use nuclear power

[vivid hinge]

so do i have to make 2 drones at each station one for fuel and one for the item

[wicked nacelle]

can't have 2 drones at a drone port

[vivid hinge]

i mean 2 stations beside each other

[wicked nacelle]

do you really have factories where you need to drone stuff in and you only need one thing?

[sullen gull]

It's best to make two stations. one for fuel, and one for the item. Unless that item is really low throuput, then you can have a drone delivering items to that station and a drone built there to go get fuel. But, that only really works if the other items throughput is really low.

Again, best to have a station dedicated to going and picking up the fuel.

[vivid hinge]

im making fused moduler frames in the middle of nowhere and i need aluminum cases from my aluminum factory but neither have good places to fuel

[wicked nacelle]

drones for casings? I think not. You're going to want a train.

[vivid hinge]

im not making a train from red jungle to the dunes

[sullen gull]

For low throughput it's fine. I drone in casings and nitro gas for my fused frames.

[wicked nacelle]

sorry, fused frames and casings doesn't scream "low volume" to me

[sullen gull]

I don't need to make 100000000/min 😏

[prisma parrot]

How do I send pic here?

[sullen gull]

#screenshots

[wicked nacelle]

@prisma parrot you gotta... yeah

and then link it in to here

fused frames are a stack a minute of casings per blender

[sullen gull]

By clicking the three dots

[prisma parrot]

OK

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/553550313533997057/1390900798296293406/image.png?ex=6869f0d0&is=68689f50&hm=7bd96193bcefdbe2868d92e9401c000dc974b04354af4c14bc9fe0684391a673&
Found the broken conveyor belt

[wicked nacelle]

is that the 400,000,000km one we deleted?

[sullen gull]

for the setup I have atm, I only need >200/min casing. Drone bringing in from a station being fed 600/min atm

[prisma parrot]

Yep

Somehow this tiny conveyor belt became that long

Cause I thought the game won't build a bugged conveyor belt itself, it has to be an exist conveyor belt got bugged, so I went to the location on SCIM and found it

[wicked nacelle]

makes sense.

I wonder if we'd let it load for like... overnight.. if it would have ever finished

[sullen gull]

https://tenor.com/view/the-more-you-know-gif-27063063

[void belfry]

Question here

[sullen gull]

Answer there

[void belfry]

Am I a madman to build a railway from the northern forest to the blue crater?

[sullen gull]

Nope.

[prisma parrot]

It won't I let my game load a whole night and nothing happened

I guess it's just the conveyor belt is so long and the data exceeded the maximum numerical limit that the game could handle, and the problem of numerical out-of-bounds has always existed

[sullen gull]

Lol, go to sleeeeeep

[covert talon]

should i put hypertubes between all my factories

or is there something faster that i get soon ( just got hypertubes)

[sullen gull]

That or cannons 😏

[covert talon]

hypertube cannon?

how do i figure out the angle lol

[sullen gull]

Look up a few videos on yt on HT cannons

[covert talon]

oh those are pretty simple

back in my day

[worn edge]

i said to myself a million times im not gonna spaghetti my reinforced iron plate factory. that didnt work out, it works out and you cant exactly see that theres spaghetti so idc

[covert talon]

i keep getting invalid pipe shape for ewhatever reason

[quiet gust]

I just automated 30 ai limiters per minute

now i need to make 20 balistic warp drives per minute then i am done\

i am also about to build 7 fully overclocked slooped particle accelerators

[covert talon]

this cannon just doesnt work lol

nvm im dumb

[tranquil hemlock]

Ok, my first train test worked. Note to self though, use same foundation type as the rest of my base, so that merging it looks right XD

And also have to set up my main storage hub at a location where there's enough space for the station XD

[velvet drum]

how can i make a train roundabout that only lets train go one direction when getting on and getting off of it

[tranquil hemlock]

The guides I followed by TotalEclipse on YouTube delved into roundabouts. I wasn't paying full attention at those segments of the guides though, so I don't know if it has what you need

[covert talon]

the amount of timesive already gotten sent across the map

[wicked nacelle]

it would be fun if the massive planet/moons in the sky actually impacted gravity based on their positioning

"fun"

what white dwarf?

oh apparnetly there's one at night?

you freaks know way too much lore 😛

I knew I felt my limbs being ripped off my body

[drowsy kelp]

So that’s why it’s so bright at night

[haughty flax]

if i place a conveyor splitter/merger directly onto a belt does it connect or do i need to delete belt and create the connections manually?

[silent merlin]

hey! quick question, was sharing mam research removed? nvm just bugged

[tranquil hemlock]

It should automatically connect, but you won't be able to snap it in place. I prefer to do it manually, just in case

[lost wagon]

sorry, I added a mod to make the flashlight a portable sun, it's leaking to other people's game

[woven nebula]

hey guys, could someone help me please? i was playing the game then idk what i did but my power wiring tool is gone. any way i can get it back or something?

[chilly anchor]

Anyone got recommendations for sink items at every stage of the game?

[leaden turret]

what do you mean by your power wiring tool?

[woven nebula]

oh cant send images

[leaden turret]

#screenshots

[woven nebula]

sent it to your dms

[leaden turret]

there's multiple hotbars, you can accidentally mousewheel onto a different hotbar

you can also just re-assign the tool

find it in the build menu, press the number to reassign (I think)

(it's been a while so I forget how to articulate it)

[woven nebula]

ah thankyou man

have a good one

[covert talon]

how do you guys farm ficsit coupons

[frail sleet]

Put unwanted/excess stuff into sink

later use smart splitter overflow function to automate that

[frozen cloud]

make warp drives

[cloud crown]

Wait until after steel for almost everything but that one op item

[lost wagon]

some mod in my game is breaking milestone, unless I am mistaken how they work, the one that is supposed to give me a hand equipment slot and 3 inventory slots aren't giving me them

[robust brook]

any tips on how to get back into the game? im on part 3 project assembaly and have everything done besides the project parts (-versitile frames) and ive take a multi week break now, i just dont want to do the last 2 project parts, what shouldi do

[covert talon]

is the dimensional depot like an ender cheset

[frail sleet]

Why don't you wanna do em

[frail sleet]

cloud storage for buildgun/inventory 😄

[covert talon]

ARE THERE ANY OTHER BOOT UPGRADES

[quiet gust]

Yeah

[covert talon]

doe sthis explorere serve any purpose

[undone lichen]

How many fuel does a fuel gen consume/min?

And what about turbofuel?

Nvm

[covert talon]

is plastic beyong phase 2?

[void belfry]

So terrible idea here

[upbeat shore]

I love those

[void belfry]

Can I create a system that sorts out every item into its correct chest

[upbeat shore]

smart splitters

[void belfry]

Basically have a chest I can dump out crap into, that gets sorted neatly into bins

[upbeat shore]

well you can't really belt out of chests

[latent prawn]

pre-1.0 ea releases, the explorer was more like a fast version of the tractor and had a lot more use, now its kinda not very good

really the use for it is early in game progression for fast-ish travel without getting clocked by the occasional scary spooder or hog

[void belfry]

You can with one big container

[upbeat shore]

yeah for a container you'd just need smart splitters to allow the designated item into the other container while letting the other items through to the next splitter

just not chests

[latent prawn]

yeah, you use smart splitters to filter items out various outputs and overflow down to successive smart splitters that do the same

[void belfry]

Nice

[hallow crow]

Where can i upload audio files? its related to satisfactory

[latent prawn]

my early game mall is a truck stop with a bunch of them hanging off to filter low-tier buildstuff into crates

[leaden turret]

audio files of whut?

[latent prawn]

if you're making it available for a bug report, google drive is often preferred for such stuff, but if it's just to show people some stuff here, probably not worth the effort since we won't clickbait on it 🙂

[hallow crow]

It's not to show anything off

its for a discussion

its of the music from the 1.0 trailer

i extracted the vocals from the song cause i dont know what its saying

[leaden turret]

ghostwood empire accelerator lyrics
google it

[void belfry]

So any suggestions for blueprint's

[hallow crow]

It doesnt sound like they're saying "finally"

it sounds like "totally"

[leaden turret]

you're hearing things

[hallow crow]

mannnn

i've been up for 45 hours i should go to bed

[upbeat shore]

apparently xd

[hallow crow]

that was a lie its only been like 16

[agile forum]

Does anyone know why blueprints sometimes get a small offset and fail to align with the foundations or other blueprints? It's smaller than the nudge precision, so you can't even fix it manually. I saw a similar issue was patched in a previous version, but I'm still running into it on latest version 1.1.1.1 (build #418783).

[latent prawn]

some buildables like power nubs and ladders push the bp's bounding box out a little bit

[half scaffold]

Oh that's fun.... If you kill a jumping spider in the air it's remains hang in the air.

[latent prawn]

yeah, lol, they're a real pain to collect

[agile forum]

It's not just a simple push out of the bounding box, on one side the bounding box sticks out, but on the other side the white bounding box is even inside the blueprint. I'm going to post a thread in the question channel to post the pictures.

[shell grove]

Someone able to explain/ got a video of how to work with train signals? I don't quite get them

[frail sleet]

The track between two block signals becomes a "block". If any part of a train is inside of a block, then no other train can enter it.

that's basically all that you need to know unless you want to do fancy advanced things

[shell grove]

What would the fancy advanced things be?

[shell grove]

Also isn't that for the block signal? How about the path signal? Does it work different?

[frail sleet]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Train_Signals

[latent prawn]

take a look at 'toaster gaming' 's train tutorial on youtube

[ashen belfry]

Path signal creates a block aswell and a train in front of a path signal reserves the block ahead of it, no other train can enter that block while that train is on the block receding the path signal or preceding the path signal.

Basically a double block signal

[eager tartan]

Is there a way for a truck station to take like different materials and go to different stations but give inly one specific type of thing at a particular station and rest at like another

[faint pawn]

my friend and I using VPN to play but we can't but when we close the VPN we can play, is it normal?

[boreal musk]

no

[mild finch]

#screenshots message @remote lake do you use a graphics mod?

[upbeat shore]

I give up on using trucks, this shit is unusable 😭

now I'm just left with a couple hundred pathnodes that won't disappear when the path is deleted

I'm having fun, I swear

[celest lichen]

theres no way to build a 4 way intersection in the mk2 blueprint maker right ugh

[reef basin]

I mean not in one blueprint, but you can build multiple blueprints

[celest lichen]

you can make 3 ways but the path signals wont fit

pain

[reef basin]

well I wouldn't blueprint train junctions anyway, as I'd rather build them according to specific needs

[marble brook]

What would happen if the area where the HUB is was covered in radiation from a nearby storage container filled with radioactive items?
Would you just respawn and die in a softlock?

[spiral summit]

is there a way to make an "overflow" pipe similar to the smart splitter?

[marble brook]

You could probably use valves to limit the flow, if you know how much surplus you need to trash.

[frail sleet]

going up

liquid will stay down unless it has no other choice

[sullen gull]

@frail sleet ?

[spiral summit]

ah right theres actual fluid dynamics in the game yeah?

[reef basin]

sort of, yeah

[frail sleet]

somewhat 😛

[cobalt lodge]

Just found out the real reason why there is no wind energy in Satisfactory:

It‘s really inefficient.

Even huge wind parks produce less than 1000MW of electricity… with 50+ turbines. This translates to a maximum of 20MW of electricity per turbine… or 1 biomass burner

[reef basin]

there's no wind energy because devs reasonably don't want to add free infinite energy

[cobalt lodge]

And that

[marble brook]

I wonder how close we are to the theoretical maximum efficiency.
Steam we historically only ever got like 40% or so iirc.

[stone python]

theyre also not eco friendly like the companies claim. It takes DECADES for them to become "cabon neutral" due to the processes that go into actually making and installing the turbines.

[frail sleet]

we have 45 GW of wind power

[cobalt lodge]

Where

[frail sleet]

and that's with all of the NIMBYs yelling about it and not letting anyone build anything

[stone python]

now that's a lot of wind

[marble brook]

Decades to be carbon neutral is probably still better than never carbon neutral.

[frail sleet]

a little island country

[cobalt lodge]

wtf how

[sullen gull]

@frail sleet You seeing these?

[cobalt lodge]

True but probably not for FICSIT

[marble brook]

To ficsit, the environment is an externality.
Who cares what species are helped and harmed, how much can you exploit?

builds unholy amounts of trains.

[stone python]

psh, we dont care about the environment here.

[cobalt lodge]

True, so let’s destroy another planet guys!

[celest lichen]

I’m just building the global network rn

3 ways come in hand since I can use auto connect and nudging

[stone python]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/images/3/39/Pipeline_Manual.pdf?2090cd

page 17

[sullen gull]

Actually I was tesing something else...

Thanks though

[stone python]

oh

wrong person

my b homie

[sullen gull]

All good

[marble brook]

Given the lack of an answer to this, one way to find out.
Time to brick my save, I guess.

[reef basin]

yeah personally I wouldn't "build a global network"

imo best way to build a global network is to not specifically build a global network, instead expand it over time as you add the specific routes that you need

[hard oasis]

someone convince me to play again pls 🙏

[reef basin]

why would we force you to do something you apparently don't want to do?

[hard oasis]

i do want to

[mortal ginkgo]

then go play

[reef basin]

then go play? if you want to play, why do you need us to convince you?

[hard oasis]

🤦‍♂️

where should i start

[reef basin]

roll a dice

[hard oasis]

amazing idea

[marble brook]

The top of the highest peak.

Walk up there, and right across from the uranium, start laying foundations.

[floral cairn]

im having hard time with freight fluid when i need constant input of oil, it stop the output when loading the container

[marble brook]

Add a buffer?

[reef basin]

trains need buffers, no matter if fluid or solid

[floral cairn]

i tried the buffer but it keeps draing, i made it full

[reef basin]

like this #design-and-architecture message

[floral cairn]

i might need to make load balancer, 2 freight fluid making it loading alternately so it will not stop

[reef basin]

no, don't

[floral cairn]

i made it like that but still draining

[reef basin]

well it's supposed to drain

[floral cairn]

i mean the output stop when its loading even with buffer

[reef basin]

that's how trains work

platforms get stopped when train docks

[floral cairn]

why is there a pump at the end

[reef basin]

why not

[floral cairn]

i thought some special function or something

[reef basin]

adds headlift

[floral cairn]

might as well run long fluid 😅 pipes

[reef basin]

if you don't have enough fluid to keep factory running between trains, you need more trains/cars/whatever. I assume you've added the same buffer for loading as well?

[floral cairn]

for loading no

[reef basin]

there you go

[glad hemlock]

Hey guys coming back after a long ish break , super glad to see controller support and thats why i am back, was wondering if there was a guide to some essential mods or just general good QOL/Decoration/Etc mods?

[reef basin]

I don't think any mods are essential, basegame is fine

[glad hemlock]

Thanks but doesnt exactly answer my question 😄

[oak hinge]

You know what annoys me to no end? The rotations of miners don't let you snap them to 45 degree angles

It's always off just slightly on one side or another

[oak hinge]

I'm not aware of a guide, but personally i like playing with infinite nudge, infinite zoop, additional inventory slots, and blueprint extensions

They're all just QoL, infinite nudge and zoop are just incredibly convenient for building, additional 500 inventory slots too (since i like to build fairly large stuff), and blueprint extensions adds a few more blueprint designers that are much larger than vanilla ones for bigger blueprints

[reef basin]

inventory slots are kinda pointless if you have dimensional depots

[oak hinge]

With larger blueprints they very much aren't, since dimensional depots can only store a few stacks of each item at max

[reef basin]

and you can have more depots

[oak hinge]

?

[reef basin]

faster refill

[oak hinge]

Ah, yeah, but you won't be able to build big blueprints from the items in the dimensional depots because they legitimately just do not fit enough items at once lol

[reef basin]

it's pretty hard to make a blueprint that eats 5 stacks of something

[oak hinge]

It really isn't, especially if you're working with something like powerbanks or refiners

[reef basin]

you can fit like 3 refineries max in one blueprint, that's hardly 5 stacks of material

[oak hinge]

Yeah except with bigger blueprints you can fit much more than 3 lol

More inventory slots are only really useful if you have bigger blueprints

[reef basin]

mk3 blueprint doesn't fit that much more

[oak hinge]

I use a mod that adds mk4 and mk5 ones as well, because the mk3 one is still way too small for my preferences

[reef basin]

eh, that feels cheaty imo

[oak hinge]

To me it doesn't, because i still build the exact same way, the only difference is with smaller blueprint designers i have to figure out how to split the design into multiple different parts that i then tile together

I still design everything in blueprint designers and build basically only using blueprints

[reef basin]

well that "split into small parts" is the intended puzzle for blueprints

[oak hinge]

Well, it's a pretty dang easy puzzle to solve that's more just super tedious and makes bigger structures that need a lot of different parts incredibly prone to mistakes

I have a fuel powerplant on my 1.0 save that i first built with normal blueprints, for the fuelgen portion of it, and then was like "no this is way too annoying" and got the mod for the refiners and blenders

Because the fuelgens and powerbanks needed 14 different blueprints that tiled together xd

[half path]

Guys can someone help me pls I'm too stupid

How do is split a 10/minute output, into 5x 2/minute outputs. I don't have programmable splitters yet

[boreal musk]

5 way splitter, do 6 output and merge 1 back into line

[fathom shuttle]

Power storage enters the chat

[boreal musk]

programmable splitter does nothing like you think it is, they are just smart splitter but you can set multiple filter for each output

[fathom shuttle]

Can’t do this on a belt that’s at full speed right?

[reef basin]

power storage is kinda pointless to build

[fathom shuttle]

It can save your ass in some situations tho

[reef basin]

so can priority power switches, and they don't have a timeout and don't need more to scale

[fathom shuttle]

Too bad I’m too disorganized to do the wiring correctly lol

[keen hawk]

let the first machine fill until its full, then attach the next one

just wait uhhhhh
27 hours 15 minutes

[half path]

got it thanks

[keen hawk]

btw

[reef basin]

--S--S--S--S--S
  |  |  |  |  |

[pulsar bobcat]

Folks

[fathom shuttle]

Lol the manifold never fails

[keen hawk]

its much better if you take a stack per machine, then put it in manually

[pulsar bobcat]

Does this game not accept the existence of 2 way trains

[half path]

did it like this

[keen hawk]

if u use this, your last machine will be on 1% efficiency for 2 years

[reef basin]

What?

[keen hawk]

unless you prefill every machine

[fathom shuttle]

You mean push-pull trains

[reef basin]

What

[pulsar bobcat]

I slapped on 2 freights together back to back

[reef basin]

It's a few hours at most

[pulsar bobcat]

Then on that 2 locomotives

[fathom shuttle]

Oh that’s push pull trains

[half path]

ah, no pics here

[sullen gull]

#screenshots

[keen hawk]

he has a belt of 10/m man

[pulsar bobcat]

When I tried to use the schedule it said that station unreachable

[half path]

look at screenshots, i did it like that

[boreal musk]

your station is backwards

[sullen gull]

A: there needs to be a locomotive at each end, and B: make sure a station isn't backwards

[pulsar bobcat]

Yea

[reef basin]

Under 3 hours with 100 stack size

[pulsar bobcat]

I think, idk

[keen hawk]

each stack of prefill saves like 30min

[pulsar bobcat]

Can u clarify

[sullen gull]

(][][][]--------[][][][) <-- Should look like this

[reef basin]

And in 33 minutes, 3 machines will already be working at 100%

[keen hawk]

ish

[iron patio]

how to solve a path signal saying its looping into itself? i dont understand what that means and why its an issue

[reef basin]

It means that the block in front of the signal is connected to the block behind the signal

[pulsar bobcat]

Station<-freight platform then freight platform->station?

[sullen gull]

And, it should be "Locomotive-Freight car - freight car - locomotive

[reef basin]

Not really, because the machines work at reduced rate, so the manifold will very quickly work at like 80%

[undone lichen]

Does the devs have like any plans to make a conveyor belt version of valves

[pulsar bobcat]

Yea I did that, I guess the station setup is the wrong thing then

[keen hawk]

i think

[reef basin]

No (and valves are pointless anyway)

[iron patio]

how do i fix that

[keen hawk]

i hate the manifolds for liquid pipes the most

[sullen gull]

Yes, but be sure that your stations are pointing opposite each other on either end... if that makes sense. Refer to previous diagram.

[pulsar bobcat]

Yup I'll fix that when I can

[reef basin]

Not have it connected, split blocks using signals

[undone lichen]

Feel like they'd be useful for both manifolds and balancers since they limit stuff/min

[reef basin]

They would remove one of main puzzle mechanics in the game

[undone lichen]

Ehh fair enough

Would make things easier though

[sullen gull]

Wasn't aware utilizing the "limits" of belt speed was ... hard?

[undone lichen]

Guess my tunnel vision made me forget about that

[sullen gull]

Not saying it can't get "tricky". But all just the basics in math imo. Unless aiming for some "wonky" ratios, but that's one's own doing lol

[sly bloom]

Hey guys, Ive heard the alternate recipe "heat fused frame" Is better but i looked at the math, and the normal is better resource wise in every way. What makes heat fused frame that good?

[undone lichen]

Now im starting to have an jdea

[boreal musk]

cutting aluminum cost

[sly bloom]

ohhhhh

I mean its not by much, And it uses like 2x more nitrogen gas

[reef basin]

If you heard "X recipe is better", then it always means "X recipe is better in vacuum based on my own preferences, which I didn't include in the message", so basically the same as saying "green is best color"

[sly bloom]

Oh yeah that makes sense. And then theres some recipies we can all agree are better

[oak hinge]

I mean, eh

[reef basin]

No, there aren't

[sly bloom]

Cast screws.

[oak hinge]

Straight up worse resource-wise

[reef basin]

Remove possibility for using rod alts

[sly bloom]

Pure caterium, pure iron, pure copper

[peak wasp]

hello! sorry for another stupid question but:
quickslot bar, only 10 ? can add other ?
10 is lwo for me ç_ç

[reef basin]

More complexity

[sly bloom]

Its just water

[reef basin]

You have 10 groups

[reef basin]

It's still more complexity

[oak hinge]

If you press alt and scroll, you can have multiple hotbars

[peak wasp]

yes

sorry i want say 10 hotbars no slot for hotbars

[oak hinge]

Which also HEAVILY restricts the areas where you can use the recipes

Also, more power

[sly bloom]

Theres water like everywhere

[oak hinge]

There very much isnt xD

[sly bloom]

Examples?

[versed mirage]

what alternate recipes should i be looking out for

[oak hinge]

Steel screws and cast screws are amazing early on, as is encased industrial pipe

[reef basin]

Whichever you want

[versed mirage]

i have steel screws but i have like over 20000 screws so i dont know if i need it right now

[oak hinge]

That's fair xD

Yeah steel screws just makes some builds so much more convenient

[reef basin]

Like 80% of the map is land

[versed mirage]

early on i feel screws arent as needed

[oak hinge]

True

[versed mirage]

theyre still important

[sly bloom]

There are lakes everywhere, and ponds

And rivers and ocean

[versed mirage]

but i dunno i kinda have too many resources all my factories are good

[oak hinge]

Southern grassy plateaus are one place where water is super annoying to come by

[sly bloom]

iron pipes. Its so good

[versed mirage]

should i split my reinforced iron plate farm into a smart plating farm and rip farm because it still has mk1 miners

[oak hinge]

Another is the northeastern desert

[reef basin]

That's the 20%

And it's still more complexity, using a refinery instead if a smelter, need to handle fluids...

[oak hinge]

Also it's MUCH more power usage

[sly bloom]

True, But the recipies are very good

[oak hinge]

And the numbers are annoying

[sly bloom]

both recipies are good, I just like recipies that mixes water for extra yield

[reef basin]

you like it. That's completely fine

Doesn't mean it "better" in general

[sly bloom]

But we can all agree diluted fuel is alot better than the heavy oil residue to fuel

[reef basin]

You could say e.g. "it's better for saving raw resources"

[oak hinge]

Needs blenders or a ton of packaging and unpackagaing

[unkempt blade]

subjectively it's the best choice and people just have to deal with it!

[sly bloom]

Packaging? what are you talking about

[oak hinge]

Either you need blenders or you need to use the diluted packaged fuel recipe

[reef basin]

Again, complexity for better yield

[oak hinge]

You can't do diluted fuel with just refiners

Because they don't have 2 fluid inputs lmao

[sly bloom]

Oh yeah i forgot packaged diluted existed

[oak hinge]

Yeah and blenders you unlock a whole phase later than refiners

So it's uh not amazing for that phase

(you can't use it)

[sly bloom]

Okay but a recipe that is objectively better is heavy oil residue.

[oak hinge]

Compared to what

[sly bloom]

The normal fuel recipe

[oak hinge]

Is your goal to make heavy oil residue or fuel?

[sly bloom]

if you want to make fuel, heavy oil residue is better

[cyan imp]

Don't sleep on "Iron alloy"

40 iron ore + 10 copper = 75 iron ingots per minute

[sly bloom]

It gives more fuel per oil

[oak hinge]

It's just straight up not until you have blenders

[unkempt blade]

I think we can at least all agree that steamed copper sheets are the best recipe in the game

[cyan imp]

I got 6 foundries for 75x6 iron per min

[sly bloom]

elaborate

[oak hinge]

No, that'd be wet concrete

[unkempt blade]

a close second!

[oak hinge]

Biocoal

[sly bloom]

Why did they even make the biocoal recipies

and the wood to coal

[unkempt blade]

biocoal would be better if it worked in reverse - I want automatable biofuel

[sly bloom]

I dont think anyone will ever have use of them

[oak hinge]

You can't use refiners to do diluted fuel as i said, so it's not better because it's not even possible to use, unless you want to build a trillion packagers

[cyan imp]

Realest message ever sent, on god

[unkempt blade]

atmosphere

[reef basin]

Well yes, if your definition of "better" is "more resource efficient", which isn't what many people would say is "better"

[oak hinge]

Biocoal is actually useful sometimes btw

[sly bloom]

No, i get that but if you use heavy oil residue to residual fuel that just uses residue--> fuel its more fuel per oil

[oak hinge]

I've seen people i use it when they're exploring and need to craft more gas filters

Biomass is a lot easier to come by than coal

[sly bloom]

True, but i'd say its one of the worst recipies in the game

[lapis lagoon]

This

[reef basin]

Again, very much subjective 🙂

[oak hinge]

I don't think there are good or bad recipes xD

[cyan imp]

Mom the chat is arguing about alternatives recipes again

[oak hinge]

I think there's situational recipes (ie all of them)

[cyan imp]

Correct opinion

sure some of them are never used, but I'm glad the option exists at all

like iron pipes, I use that early to get dimensional depot stuff faster by temporarily sacrificing iron

[oak hinge]

Yep

[cyan imp]

Also seriously, don't sleep on Iron alloy alt

[oak hinge]

Yeah it's decent sometimes

Personally not a huge fan but it's neat

[cyan imp]

One impure copper node? Well let me just amplify my iron with that

[cyan imp]

Perfectly fine

[unkempt blade]

gotta use iron wire so you can save all that delicious copper to turn into steamed copper sheets

[cyan imp]

Aurora borealis?

[versed mirage]

should i skip over impure nodes early on

[unkempt blade]

at these galactic coordinates? ...can I see them?

[latent tulip]

do you guys know how far is the oneshot zone ?

[cyan imp]

honestly kinda yeah, everything early game can be considered temporary that you will later want to dismantle

[cyan imp]

I wish, imagine seeing one irl dude, beautiful

[latent tulip]

i post pic in screenshots

[unkempt blade]

personally I think impure is a trap very early on when you're short on power but by the time I get to coal going sometimes being lazy and using a local source wins

[versed mirage]

my storage is overflowing 😭

i cant do ts anymore theres like a storage chain of 5 for everything and i still run out of space

[unkempt blade]

you're getting half the ore output of normal or 1/4 of a pure vein but the power use is the same so when you're just on biofuel or something... it adds up

[versed mirage]

might have to make a massive warehouse full of storage boxes

[tulip orchid]

Simply dump your entire storage into an awesome sink

[oak hinge]

I LOVE that they uncapped the bhop speed

[unkempt blade]

you're supposed to ask yourself "does this spark joy" and if it does you move it to inventory before you hook up the conveyor to your sink

[oak hinge]

It's SO GOOD for early traversal

[shy mulch]

Bio is what you start with, but once you have coal set up from a miner you can forget about it

[oak hinge]

I'm talking about using the biocoal recipe when exploring

To craft gas masks

[versed mirage]

should i get expanded power infrastructure

[oak hinge]

Yes

The towers are such a lifesaver

[versed mirage]

alright

after that i have to do space elevator

[oak hinge]

The range on those towers is HUGE

[unkempt blade]

this is for sure a real use case but with how early I got the depot on my 1.0 playthrough I think this time I'd just keep a huge pile of filters in there and never worry again

[versed mirage]

so should i get rid of all my power lines and replace them or is it alright

[shy mulch]

Just get everything. It never needs to be a choice of get this or that

[unkempt blade]

I'd rather spend the recipe on something I want for a factory I guess

[oak hinge]

I mean if you want to

It's all right for sure, i love using them for long distance travel tho

[versed mirage]

ill test them out

[tulip orchid]

I hadn't considered gas masks as a justifiable reason to take the coal alts
Granted I still think the coal alts are garbage but it's an option

[oak hinge]

Oh yeah i usually don't take them either unless i have a ton of hard drives to burn

But they're useful sometimes

[unkempt blade]

yeah I'm in the "if you have nothing else to spend the recipe on they're not literally without use" camp 😆

[oak hinge]

Same xD

[shy mulch]

Just manually make 1000 filters, drop them in a storage that feeds into a depot, and never think about them again

[oak hinge]

I've seen like maybe 3 players use the recipe ever

[tulip orchid]

Also yeah, power towers are mostly good if you have an unlockable from the caterium tree

Otherwise I uh
Honestly regular power poles will do you perfectly fine

[mild finch]

coal alts?

[tulip orchid]

See, a part of me wishes that weren't a feature of the game because I was so hyped to set up a train-based part distribution system for my building projectd

Then having a storage system in general got invalidated :/

[nova igloo]

[unkempt blade]

I find the lower power connector on the tower to be triggering. Clipping usually doesn't bother me but those always do for some reason

[mild finch]

make that 4, made a small arms factory, with gas filters, iodine infused filters, cluster nobelisks, explosive rebar and homing rifle amo

[oak hinge]

Nice

[mild finch]

this was unnecessarilly annoying tbh

[halcyon raft]

programable mergers, i need them

[mild finch]

made id to be efficient, while also running mk2 miners at like 20% on some nodes

[unkempt blade]

A central mall (outside of the depot) is still a really fun project. That's definitely one of those things I think everyone should try building at least once

[mild finch]

your pfp could be a cool factory build

[abstract knot]

what do you guys think about connecting all oil nodes ingame and lead them back to a megafactory and name it saudi aramco

[oak hinge]

Yeah, i'm too lazy to build circles on that scale tho

[tulip orchid]

One of these days I should do a proper weapons factory
Usually I only bother turning otherwise-sunk rods into gun ammo and that's it

[mild finch]

hmmmm

[tulip orchid]

It is fun!
Making a world-spanning logistics network is also fun, at least to me

Hence why the dimensional depot makes me sad, since it makes those projects Really Stupid To Go Do

[mild finch]

the rates suck imo, i mostly did that because i wanted a small project after my power plant, and wasn't feeling like using my precious points for that

[sullen gull]

Mine if you want any inspriation 🙂 #screenshots message

[half scaffold]

Is there a way to mine uranium deposits w/o burning through filters?

[unkempt blade]

if you want it running all the time I think depot isn't the answer. For consumables like ammo or packaged fuel or building materials it's just nice not to worry about keeping those topped off every time I leave the hub

[oak hinge]

Die repeatedly or explode them with nobelisks / explosive rebar

[unkempt blade]

if I forget something or need more concrete or whatever I can just grab it without running across the map

[sullen gull]

Isn't this why the DD exists? 😏

[shy mulch]

No, but the filters don't burn particularly fast and are easy to make. So it's not really a serious issue

[mild finch]

oh damn, that's way cooler than the shit i did

[half scaffold]

I JUST unlocked them, so I don't have a lot of aluminum yet

[mild finch]

how does the throughput look on drones tinker?

[shy mulch]

Do you pronounce it iodine or iodine

[unkempt blade]

yes, but the message I was responding to was suggesting it invalidated logistics projects so here we are 😉

[mild finch]

iodine

[sullen gull]

For the small amounts I am needing, works great.

[tulip orchid]

I mean, I've used the depot, and concrete and wire are the two things I do run out of

Probably because I don't upgrade the depot and just build more uploaders

[shy mulch]

That's what I thought!

[sullen gull]

Fair 🙂

[keen hawk]

im going crazy

[mild finch]

yeah, that's probably the best kind of use for them, i did belt highways from my power plant's leftovers and took the rest locally

[keen hawk]

lategame concrete consumption is insane

[unkempt blade]

I say the silent d because I'm a language rebel

[sinful carbon]

how the hell do people make buildings look good

[keen hawk]

concrete and copper is killing me

[sinful carbon]

anything i make is just a big concrete blob

[shy mulch]

In my main save I have around 5k nuke nobelisks in storage and still creating 2.5 per minute. Really need to start using them liberally

[mild finch]

there's over 69 000 limestone/min available

[fathom shuttle]

Spent 30 minutes debugging my train network and didn’t even realize that I put a train station backwards which caused me all sorts of problems

[keen hawk]

im still going crazy

[mild finch]

are they really much better than cluster?

[sullen gull]

This one is primarily "self contained" Has it's own TF supply, and is making ALL ammo (well, except for gas nobelisks) up to Nuke Nobelisks and both filters.

[mild finch]

very funny when you get a cluster nobelisk under an ennemy

[shy mulch]

Not really used cluster much so can't comment on that

[keen hawk]

im using rubber concrete and im running out of rubber

[mild finch]

TF?

[fathom shuttle]

Yes

[tulip orchid]

Off memory, limestone is actually relatively limited compared to iron and copper

[sullen gull]

Trubo Fuel power supply

[keen hawk]

currently only at about 1,200 concrete per min but now all my rubber is getting sank

[mild finch]

oooh yeah, you need turbofuel for the turbo ammos

[unkempt blade]

wet concrete will save you, it's the second best recipe in the game

[fathom shuttle]

1k concrete is what my HMF consumes

[mild finch]

rubber concrete?

[keen hawk]

on my rubber processing side, i have to build uhhh

[sly bloom]

I really want to be able to destroy the giant trees

[keen hawk]

220 rocket fuel generators

[mild finch]

hmmm

[sullen gull]

Yeah, I figured since I needed TF for the ammo, why not just make enough on site to power everything and use it for drone fuel 🙂

[shy mulch]

BTW for those discussing power poles earlier, for long distance power transmission, remember rails transmit power too, so just build a global railway then you don't need to worry about long distance power

[mild finch]

oced?

[fathom shuttle]

You can’t connect power poles to rails tho

[tulip orchid]

Rubber pretty much only exists to turn into concrete and cable imo

Maybe for some use in flexi frame or other alts but it's highly limited

[keen hawk]

un-oc'd

[fathom shuttle]

Electronics?!!

[shy mulch]

They are really nice now with the 1.1 graphics

[sullen gull]

No, but you CAN pull power from the station on the other end.

[keen hawk]

220 power shards is still 110, i think im down to 500 shards now

[mild finch]

damn, that's still almost half of my whole power supply (450 before oc)

[keen hawk]

how do i automate shards actually

[unkempt blade]

don't forget plastic, it's great to turn into plastic!

[sly bloom]

I just need them gone, cause building a train line there will be a nightmare

[tulip orchid]

That's what the plastic is for

[sullen gull]

Yeah, finally getting around to doing a recycled setup making 1200/1200 plastic/rubber from 900 oil 😛

[sly bloom]

What about the insulated oscilator?

[unkempt blade]

Yeah I usually do 600 oil into like mk5 quantities of rubber and plastic and the rest goes into fuel. It's such a satisfying factory

[keen hawk]

im converting 1800 oil directly into rubber, cause that maxes out my HOR while giving me what i need

but now i have to deal

with the consequences of my actions

[sly bloom]

Are you doing the recycling setup that makes the 1 crude oil=3 rubber

[fathom shuttle]

The alternates need a lot of rubber as well

[tulip orchid]

I have this problem where I run power towers inbetween my rail lines everywhere
Not to actually use for power, but rather to zipline on while I wait for a train to drop onto

[keen hawk]

uh no
im doing normal rubber recipe and using fuel to make recycled plastic

[unkempt blade]

I think you can use baby oil to get all the HOR off those lizard doggos

[sullen gull]

I already have power situated with RF for now. Nuke will be the final "hurrah" for this save... only when all of the other "factories" are completely "done" though lol

[fathom shuttle]

Oh and don’t forget about RCUs

[fathom shuttle]

I thought diddy was in prison what is he doing here

[keen hawk]

im like 100h in but i still feel like a complete noob running around in the dark

ive ditched 2 bases already cause they turned into spaghetti fests

[sly bloom]

Oh okay. If you want to up the production by a country mile, theres a way to turn 1 crude oil into 3 rubber or plastic but its complicated

[keen hawk]

nah

[sullen gull]

Using the reclycled plastic and recycled rubber alts, with diluted fuel, nets the best results for rubber and plastic production.

[shy mulch]

That never goes away. I'm approaching 1000 hours and still feel like I know nothing

[tulip orchid]

Multiple of my saves are up to 200-300h and I still do stupid things so it's fine lol

[sinful carbon]

is there a bug with color changing in customizer? i click on one color and it for some reason selects the one above the one i clicked

[sullen gull]

1,319h on this one currently 🤣

[keen hawk]

is it only rubber? i needed to set up another powerplant anyways, but this one is just very daunting

because my motors are on the other side of the map

[sinful carbon]

removing a custom saved color somehow fixed that

[keen hawk]

im tempted to just set up drones to bring me everything i have being produced already

[sullen gull]

SO, if you have tried to save over a color with the same name, it can get bugged.

[sly bloom]

It works for both rubber and plastic

[sinful carbon]

yea thats what happened i think

[keen hawk]

i have the recipe for rubber+fuel = plastic, but im missing a lot of oil alt recipes

[sullen gull]

Upload your save to SCIM and remove the duplicates from your presets

[unkempt blade]

sounds like you need to get way into trains

[keen hawk]

my production quantities

are lowkey not high enough to warrant trains

[sullen gull]

Heed Heavy Oil Residue alt and Diluted fuel Alt

[keen hawk]

im making like 20/min

so drones make a lot more sense

i am making a train setup

[unkempt blade]

one really long conveyor!

[keen hawk]

eventually

[sullen gull]

Until you then have to make fuel for the drones 🤣

[tulip orchid]

I wish I could say I'd do a mega-super-huge ionised fuel plant

Unfortunately, you'd need to pay me upwards of 7 digits to sit through placing all those fuel generators again

[keen hawk]

i have a few battery production lines set up
and i could just bottle up my rocketfuel instead of dumping it all into gens...

[shy mulch]

Dare I ask how many gens you've built 😁

[keen hawk]

but canisters get deleted when machines use them?

[sullen gull]

Unless it's just unpackaging, then no

[keen hawk]

chat
what if i terraform the entire map and just run trucks instead

how much concrete to cover the map in 6 lane 2 storey highways

[sullen gull]

No need to do the entrie map. Just use the natrual roads and clear them

Load your save up to SCIM and click the roads layer 🙂

[unkempt blade]

this was my RF setup so we never really needed ionized beyond playing with the jet pack #screenshots message

[tulip orchid]

I was making turbofuel on the northern coast, so... Few hundred anyways?

I was using 3 pure nodes of regular fuel I think, it was Update 7 and I was stupid then

[sullen gull]

I've been following others' advice and just buying Ionized from the shop 🤣

[shy mulch]

Hard to tell how many that is. Looks about 700-800?

[unkempt blade]

RF basically needs the same stuff as turbo so that one was obvious to do but not a fan of the ionized recipe

[shy mulch]

Just take a bit of your RF and make it into ionised and feed it into depot. Easy set up and no more wasting coupons

[sullen gull]

Only just unlocked synthetic powershards, so I will eventually.

[unkempt blade]

should be like ~960 for the generators

[tulip orchid]

Doesn't ionized fuel just refine rocket w/ powershards?
Would be exceedingly obnoxious to do large scale, but on paper and as a playing supply it wouldn't be awful

[shy mulch]

Good effort. I'm making enough RF for 576 generators. Built like half the generators then got bored 😂

[sullen gull]

Yeah, but syn power shards take a bit to make

[shy mulch]

They aren't too bad if you prepare your setup with good recipes

[keen hawk]

when will we get a 20x20 blueprint bulder

[shy mulch]

Plus it makes dark matter residue as a byproduct, if you sloop the shard manufacturer you get double DMR back so you don't need to input any at all once you're started. Takes one requirement out of the supply chain completely

[keen hawk]

i built 72 for a small scale one and i was already exhausted

and my new one needs 220 gens now

[shy mulch]

Even the mk3 blueprint feels kinda small. I'd love larger ones. There are mods that give you much bigger blueprints but I don't want to use mods

[fathom shuttle]

Some machines don’t fit in the mk3 one…

[keen hawk]

how do we automate shard production

or is that tier 9, im running low on shards

only have about 300 left

[shy mulch]

Synthetic shard production, you need to unlock it in the MAM

[tulip orchid]

Hence I'm not dealing with fuel-based powergen anymore
Not sure if I'll even bother with packaged fuel or if I'll make smokeless powder instead

[keen hawk]

everything but my storage has run dry

my dimensional depot*

[fathom shuttle]

In the world?

Rush to tier 9

[keen hawk]

no that ive found and have on me currently

[fathom shuttle]

Oh

[shy mulch]

There's really no need to use that many tbh

[fathom shuttle]

You will have plenty then, I gathered 1.5k powershards just from random exploration

[tulip orchid]

Each day I realise exactly how frugal I am about powershards

[shy mulch]

Remember you can use somersloop on constructor when turning slugs into shards to get double the return

[keen hawk]

setting up my powerplant has used about 150 so far

if i wanna shard my gens, ima need 220 again

[shy mulch]

Sounds inefficient. Why shard the machines making the fuel? Just make more machines

[keen hawk]

i shard so its a 1:1 and i dont need to manifold or think about balancing

i have them at 167% or something

[shy mulch]

Fair enough. That's a choice you've made. Simplicity of construction comes at the cost of having to find more shards. Whole game is about balancing stuff like that to suit how you want to do things

[tulip orchid]

I tend to downclock to make my numbers play nice, although that does result in uh

Spatial constraints, sometimes

[fathom shuttle]

You should start overclocking way more

Overclock assemblers and above

That’s how I do it

[unkempt blade]

blueprinting got me to overclock a lot more than I used to

[tulip orchid]

I might do for manufacturers and like
Refineries (desgustang machine)

Constructors look nice in big chunks, and assemblers usually tile so nicely I don't bother

[sullen gull]

Bs! Overclock EVERYTHING!!!Muahhahaha..ha..haah..

[mild finch]

i do too

besides generators, most stuff is underclocked in my sighs turbofuel plant, that i did before realising it sucks

[sullen gull]

Ugh ... "selective reading" for the loose.... I read "I shart" 🤦‍♂️ 🤣

[fathom shuttle]

If the under clocked number is a good number to work with then just 2x and save yourself the space

[tulip orchid]

Ngl I think the thing that first kicked me into downclocking was the realisation that one water extractor can go to two coal gens and it just works so much nicer when you don't need to mix pipes

[mild finch]

well, i don't want to spend the shards

[fathom shuttle]

Why? They are literally infinite lol

[tulip orchid]

Plus saving two shards in the earlygame, for bonus points

[mild finch]

i'm in the mid game

[fathom shuttle]

You still have 4.5k powershards to spend

[tulip orchid]

To some extent there's also a beauty in watching an entire sea of machines churn in perfect, load-balanced unison

[mild finch]

and i dont value size, but i do value efficiency

[mild finch]

yeah, when you don't run a mk2 pipe at 600 u/min

and get those pesky yellow lights

[tulip orchid]

Simply
Don't run 600/min pipes (I say, overclocking my oil extractors:)

[mild finch]

to give bookie credit, maybe if i wasn't filling it with 16 machines it would've work

[mild finch]

eh when you take from few machines it usually works okay

[sullen gull]

Out of curiosity, anyone try messing with the Ficsit-Networks Mod?

Not looking for help, just some opinions based on experience.

[mild finch]

speaking of mod, does anyone know a graphics mod that fixes the oversaturated shadows?

[tulip orchid]

I haven't messed with mods since Update 8

Part of me wonders if Satisfactory-Plus got updated, it was vaguely interesting for as much as it was also really obnoxious sometimes

[sullen gull]

Taj's Graphical Overhaul?

[sullen gull]

It did not

[sly bloom]

this game is like crack

[mild finch]

i'm using taj's graphical overhaul rn, looks great, allows for much higher lumen quality, and clearer reflections, but uuuh the shadows are still very oversaturated

[sullen gull]

Same, and yeah, shadows are strange

[tulip orchid]

Not the biggest loss
I did like how it handled automatic biofuel by giving you a machine that mixed its output on purpose

[boreal musk]

it was updated for 1.0, broke again for 1.1

no ETA yet

[tulip orchid]

I do feel like if I played satisfactory-plus again I'd want to do it with one of those omni-material mods

Make it entirely about managing ratios without needing to care what the nodes are

[boreal musk]

iirc i used all the copper in grassy plain just for my bronze factory in phase 1

[sullen gull]

bronze?

[boreal musk]

sf+ stuffs

[keen hawk]

my power grid has max comsumption at 40,000 MW and current consumption at 25,000

[boreal musk]

theres also brass which also need molten copper, but thats pretty simple

[keen hawk]

this is thanks to 2 abandoned bases only upkept for power purposes

[lost wagon]

Taj makes the shadows way too dark for my taste

[sinful carbon]

god damn the autosave feature sucks

i destroyed gas geysery, game saved, game crashed later and for some reason the geysers reappeared

[tulip orchid]

Content overhaul that was like
50% "Oh, interesting production challenge"
The other 50% is fucking. Copper rods. Iron wire. God why do belts need screws. Fuck

[sinful carbon]

dont even want to know what progress or item it randomly voids because of that...

[boreal musk]

every production line needs screw, thats the best part of sf+

theres also so many shit that need to be automated in phase 1, i think its like around 12 of them

[tulip orchid]

There is no justifiable reason why tin rods are an item, except to waste your power and time

[boreal musk]

well crusher gives a lot of tins, thats fine to me

and sorter

[shy mulch]

And if no autosave, then when it crashes you'd be even further back and still have whatever you destroyed

[boreal musk]

in defends, algal mass power is fully automated, so thats a plus

[timid rune]

speaking of screws, time to deal with 6000 screws/min

[sinful carbon]

too bad autosave is a basic feature and it not even doing its job correctly is still bad

[tulip orchid]

It is kinda fun rigging up a system and seeing some obscene number of one part or other

Mostly wire :/

[shy mulch]

What exactly is it not doing correctly?

[timid rune]

iron wire is kinda your friend (situation wise)

[sinful carbon]

as i already said, it didnt save the fact i destroyed gas geysers

[shy mulch]

Did it autosave after you destroyed them?

[sinful carbon]

yes

and that im sure about because there was a slug i only collected after destroying

[shy mulch]

And you loaded the correct autosave?

[sinful carbon]

but after loading the autosave the slug was gone

yes

slug gone but geysers there

[shy mulch]

Then you should report it as a bug. That seems to me to be a very rare occurrence

[sinful carbon]

so it saved me picking up the slug but for some reason reset the geysers

[timid rune]

I am in the process of tearing down and rebuilding my motor production from almost scratch

[tulip orchid]

I mean, making obnoxious amounts of wire isn't too bad
The issue tends to be routing that many items, but it's still usually not too bad

It is a little more satisfying than the usual issue I have, a little number called "Oops, everything makes <10/min and can be run on a mk1 sushi belt"

[mild finch]

sushi belts look kinda scary

[tulip orchid]

They look a lot worse than they are, as long as you don't suck at math

[boreal musk]

just remember to hook up the end line of sushi belt to sink, so theres no back up

[mild finch]

oh yeah, forgot you could just do that

yeah, not as scary then

[tulip orchid]

Or make a point of merging your belts in crafting order, or set the output item to sink,

Basically it "can" deadlock but it really really shouldn't

Actually, my motor blueprint uses a sushi belt without a sink iirc
Couldn't be bothered routing individual belts for a whole 10 parts /min

[arctic tree]

hi any one want to play with me on my worl i have factory of iron rod plates screw reinforced iron plates concreate and power of 1200 MV

[mild finch]

#1201555265942724758

[arctic tree]

oo thaks i didnt see it

[remote lake]

Nope! If you're asking because of the reflections in the signs, I have them each set to glossy and max illumination so I think that's what causes the reflection in each one

[mild finch]

hmmm

[ivory condor]

Oh signs, yeah I wouldn't touch those

[sharp sentinel]

I'm officially at the point where I fix most every problem with drones.

Can't wait until they start using more fuel than I can put in a storage container to auto-load the port and I solve that with, you guessed it, more drones.

[winter ruin]

That is way to relatable, I feel like once I have them I get so lazy and use them do everything

[sharp sentinel]

Trains are nice, and still have their use, but they're so much work to get setup and configure. I ending up running containers of nitrogen to one of my factories, sinking the emptied containers, and just running the nitrogen to the relevant spot.

[winter ruin]

I love using trains but with 1.1 the tracks are so buggy im starting not to use them as much

Pre 1.1 I would place a interchange where I would need it and then the signals no issue, now I spend 20 - 30 minutes per interchange rebuilding it 20 times to get it working

[ivory condor]

I remember trains tracks in one of my saves was to buggy trains would teleport across the map, i should go test and see if that's still happening

[winter ruin]

They still do that for me lol

[ivory condor]

Great this still exists

[winter ruin]

And they will clip into each other or loop around in random stations

[ivory condor]

Praise be the teleporting trains

[winter ruin]

I think the signals are what cause it

[cedar thistle]

I do sure hate when my trains quantum tunnel to a completely different part of the map for no reason

[ivory condor]

I should test more to figure what causes train teleportation so I can exploit it more

[sharp sentinel]

I have two trains running with no signals. One delivers just plastic and rubber from Blue Crater to Grassy Fields, and then another one runs from the Beach Islands to Western Dune Forest and Jungle Spires, it hauls a mixture of stuff around.

[winter ruin]

I just have a bunch of tracks and intersections going all over so trains can get to anywhere from anywhere

It is so inefficient but it works

[sharp sentinel]

Adding in signals and stuff is just too much for me. Pipes are enough work, I don't want to learn rail signals too.

[winter ruin]

They are a pain but make trains so fun

[ivory condor]

I think the only thing I hate about it is not being able to predict when my train will quantum tunnel to another part of the map

[winter ruin]

Watching all the trains go through a central interchange is very satisfying

Lots of traffic though

[ivory condor]

But if I could control train teleportation I would exploit it as much as possible

[fluid sapphire]

we can nudge in half meter increments by holding ctrl, one meter increments normally, any way to nudge in larger increments?

[winter ruin]

Left Shift maybe but its unlikely

[fluid sapphire]

doesnt seem to do anything unfortunately

[ivory condor]

Well

[fathom shuttle]

I need an expert on trains rn

[ivory condor]

Im a not a export in train quantum tunneling yet but im working on it

[fluid sapphire]

im only just now starting to even build rail

[winter ruin]

Im not an expert but I know how to use signals/interchanges if that's what it's related to

I hate pipes so much

[ebon parcel]

When did the devs change it so you cant play when eos is broken?