satisfactory

[hard ivy]

C is more convenient for slide jumping imo

[delicate nymph]

guess os

ill leave it as c then

[sharp sentinel]

TMW I'm going like Mach 3 slide jumping with control.

But I also don't type like I learned in a typing class, so my fingers aren't in the same positions as most other players.

[short pulsar]

I always cringe when I see stuff like that translated to my native language. I have been so used to having anything gaming related in English since I was a kid.

[burnt ferry]

it says 'satisfactory' as in school mark 3 or a C

its worse for porn titles tbf

[short pulsar]

Lmao

[burnt ferry]

i guess ironically it would translate to 'fabrikspiel' on a porn site

[pastel harness]

Finished building my big platform #screenshots

[delicate nymph]

whats a good fps to have in this game?

[lime ermine]

Reminds me of a couple weeks ago when the devs of one of my favorite games said they'd been hiding some dev kits from Nintendo in a secret room but the captions changed it to deaf kids in a secret room 🤣🤣🤣

[short pulsar]

Surely a video about 'plumbing' isn't that innovative 🤣

[pastel harness]

Anything above 40 is playable

[quick barn]

Xbox Design Lab needs to get it together. I wanna buy this real bad now that controller support is pretty great.

https://xboxdesignlab.xbox.com/en-us/xbox-elite-wireless-controller-series-2?recipeId=EX943U2L

[pastel harness]

I've played on 25fps but its a bit jittery on the eyes

[delicate nymph]

im at about 200 currerntly

[quick barn]

40+ is solid.
I'm fortunate enough to get 100+ @ 5120x1440 and it's gorgeous. ultra everything. Max view distance. No FSR.

#UltrawideGang

[delicate nymph]

ill turn up my graphics untill im down to 100then

[pastel harness]

Oh on the 2k ultrawide? nice

[burnt ferry]

i dont even care as long as it seems smooth

[lime ermine]

What GPU do you have

And CPU

[quick barn]

Radeon rx6900xt

[sharp sentinel]

Hypertube Power Towers when

[quick barn]

AMD 5900x

[lime ermine]

Nice

[quick barn]

Team Red baby!

[gentle jacinth]

i figured out how to get multiple people (or atleast 2 people) on a train

[lime ermine]

I have a 3070 and 9600x

[hard ivy]

I have played for 100+ hours on 15-25 FPS while making my nuke plant in U6. (I had an i7 7700, a 1080 Ti, and 6000 machines in my world lol). I got used to it pretty quickly tbh

[burnt ferry]

just stand on the train

[pastel harness]

Honestly turn them up until you're on a good smoothness, even like 60 should be fine.
The game just looks so nice on good settings that it's worth a drop in frames. It's not a shooter game after all haha

[lime ermine]

Gets about 90-110 fps in 1080p ultra

[gentle jacinth]

stand on the freight cart and put an item in it to freeze yourself in place until you jump

[pastel harness]

That seems like a bit of a low FR for your specs, I was at like 20-30 with my i5-5500 and 960. Maybe less machines idk

[delicate nymph]

what fov works the best

im still on defult and im not sure if i like it

[primal haven]

im at 70 fps on ultra with upscaling

[quick barn]

Here is a pic.
Its so.... Satisfactory!
#fan-art message

[primal haven]

ive had some bad frame drops when building with big blueprints near a lot of other stuff though

[hard ivy]

Yeah, no I started at 100+ FPS. U6 and 6k machines didn't go well together. U8 more than doubled the performance of that save

[delicate nymph]

is frame gen worth turing on

totally agree

[pastel harness]

Oh right yeah they did heaps of optimisations for U8

[quick barn]

I think FSR/DLSS makes it look.... Muddy

[delicate nymph]

whats u stand for

[hard ivy]

Update

[delicate nymph]

ah

[hard ivy]

U6 = 0.6

[primal haven]

well I switched to FSR so I could test frame gen and I have 150 fps now

[delicate nymph]

what volume settings is good

the mechines make my ears ring after a while

[hard ivy]

Depends on your audio setup lol

[pastel harness]

Hopefully the 10k platforms I just placed don't impact my performance too much

[hard ivy]

I run both game and windows at 50% but that's probably useless information to you and everyone else

[pastel harness]

If it's a specific freq/machine you can lower just that one in the audio settings
Otherwise look into a software EQ? or just lower your master

[primal haven]

I think im going to stick with FSR, it still looks good to me and its like double the frames

[delicate nymph]

whats network quality do

[primal haven]

makes online games not choppy

[delicate nymph]

ah

[hard ivy]

Even 100k probably won't

[delicate nymph]

dererctx or vulkin

[pastel harness]

Oh nice. The factory I'm planning is only like 1200 machines too so should be ok

[next umbra]

Turning it on I went from 120fps at 6ms to 75fps at 10ms so no

[hard ivy]

If you're worried about performance, OC to 250% as much as you can

[sharp sentinel]

Working on a hypertube line between factories, might just build a tower that connects to every area. Just got tired of riding powerlines for 2km.

[delicate nymph]

i hear vulkin may be slightly unstable

[pastel harness]

worthwhile investment

[delicate nymph]

also what does the hardware benchmark do

[fathom shuttle]

Damn so with sloops 1 animal remain can make 2 protein capsule, which when turned into biomass can be slopped to make 6000, those can be slooped to make 6000 solid biofuel lol

[dense violet]

sure. sloop every step if you want

[hard ivy]

Sets your graphics settings automatically to match your hardware. Idk how good it is at it tho

[delicate nymph]

what about upscaling / vsynk

should i turn those on

[primal haven]

its worked well for me but i dont think it auto sets the whole page of settings

[hard ivy]

Upscaling gives you more FPS at the cost of minor visual artifacting

Vsync should be on I think. Unless you have a VRR monitor, then idk

[loud vault]

when i first saw folks post about "sloop", ngl, i def thought they were talking about some kind of flying skiff...🤣

[fathom shuttle]

If it’s DLSS4 then yea, if you don’t like the ghosting that comes with DLSS 3.8 then don’t

[dense violet]

fair

[loud vault]

no way to hand feed a smelter huh?

[fathom shuttle]

Ghosting is soooooo bad with dlss 3.8 especially if its holograms

[hard ivy]

Haven't noticed many issues with dlss on my 3080. Idk what dlss it can run tho

[delicate nymph]

lumin good to turn on?

/ global illumination

[hard ivy]

For screenshots, sure. For playing, depends on your GPU

[delicate nymph]

mine seems to handle it

[hard ivy]

See if you like how it looks

Some like it, some don't

[delicate nymph]

think ill leave it off

[dense violet]

yes? just put stacks of ore in there

you can skip dragging by just double clicking hte stack if you want

[hard ivy]

Or shift clicking

[fathom shuttle]

If you like your entire image being really dark then turn it on

[loud vault]

ok ill try again. i couldnt seem to get the stack over. does it need to be powered before i load it?

[dense violet]

yes

[loud vault]

ah, ok

[hard ivy]

Yes?

[dense violet]

except for generators, machines don't accept inputs if unpowered

[delicate nymph]

where do i see the past dialog

[hard ivy]

They don't take items from belts when not powered but I thought you could handfeed them?

[fathom shuttle]

You can’t

[hard ivy]

Codex (O) and messages

[loud vault]

but they need power to take the input

[dense violet]

I've never tried handfeeding w/o power at all tbh.

but I wouldn't be surprised if that's the issue since click dragging should work, or jsut double clicking the stack

[delicate nymph]

ah thanks

awesome

[dense violet]

wait, have you not selected a recipe for it?

[gentle jacinth]

my sam is starting to slow down i might need to stop sinking it all

[hallow flicker]

Is the lizard doggo milk production mod done yet?

[gentle jacinth]

What.

[primal haven]

lol

what are we going to craft with milk?!

[hallow flicker]

I am hoping for a complicated setup that utilizes diluted doggo milk as an alternative recipe that leads to a way to solve Jason's drone fuel problem.

[loud vault]

i powered it and selected the iron recipe, now i can move the stack to output but i cant seem to get it over to the input side

[delicate nymph]

fixed the dementional depot issue

works now realized i needed to place one down first

[loud vault]

geez, im a dink..... im trying to move the ingots and not the ore........

[dense violet]

post an image in #math-and-meta of the control paenl

[hallow flicker]

It must be nice to have two incomes and no children

[loud vault]

i was trying to move the ingots like a dumbass, and not the ore

[dense violet]

yup, saw that

[loud vault]

once upon a time.....now im an oink

[gentle jacinth]

is there a mod or anything to get noclip

[dense violet]

probably

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[dense violet]

Highly advise to get through all the teirs at least once before moding though

[loud vault]

yea now it works. much better than holding the button in the bench

[dense violet]

automation in MY automation game? it's more likely than you think

[loud vault]

is the green clouds coming from rock fingers a hazard or resource? both?

[delicate nymph]

sad i didnt realise you couldnt reorder the depot in the invintory

[steel sluice]

Hazard :)

[steel sluice]

you'll get access to tools to remove or prevent injury, for short bursts you can load up on berries and run through though.

[gentle jacinth]

whats the point of them even being there? are they just an obstruciton to kill you?

[steel sluice]

often if an area is difficult to get to, it has something in there to reward explorers.

[fathom shuttle]

Jump pad + packaged biofuel is op, you can travel 2km in less than a minute

[steel sluice]

traditional videogame logic

[loud vault]

ok, htere is a yellow glowing slug up there in the middle of a bunch of green fingers

[fathom shuttle]

Destroy the fart rocks first

[steel sluice]

there will be lots to explore and unlock, and many, many, many slugs

[gentle jacinth]

get the nobelisk or anything to heal yourself with

[dense violet]

a thing to work around.
they often hide valuable stuff

[delicate nymph]

is the rebar guns damage good

[open tree]

for the first ranged weapon, yes.

Shatter rebar is fantastic for up close.

[delicate nymph]

okay

ill try it currerntly using tnt to blow enemys up

[pastel harness]

Okay so I think I'm gonna have space issues... Just my row of train stations are gonna take up like a third of my platform 😢

[open tree]

i love the explosive rebar to target the gas fingers from far out compared to relying on the nobelisks once you get there.

[pastel harness]

My dream of a single-layer factory seems not very feasible unfortunately

[open tree]

your basement/lower level can be all trains to distribute material Up to the rest of the factory

[steel sluice]

Factorio dreams don't always translate perfectly into 3D Satisfactory

[pastel harness]

Ahhh this is true

[delicate nymph]

is explocive rebar good?

[pastel harness]

I was hoping to do 10 BWD from raw ingredients in a nice 2D layout

[open tree]

i really enjoy it for blowing up the stone fingers when i cant throw nobelisk

[steel sluice]

Yes, but what kind of answer do you want here ?

[pastel harness]

Looks like I underestimated the size by a lot

[open tree]

whats BWD?

[steel sluice]

Very normal problem haha

[delicate nymph]

compared to shater rebar or does it break trees / rocks

[hallow flicker]

That's what she said.

[pastel harness]

Ballistic warp drive haha

[open tree]

explosive rebar blows up the gas rock and removes biologic matter

[pastel harness]

I've only got an 80x128 platform so

[delicate nymph]

shoould i just get the rifle

[pastel harness]

And I can't extend it in any direction

[steel sluice]

If you're ok with spoilers the wiki is pretty good for nuts and bolts information like that

[steel sluice]

Try everything and see what YOU like

[open tree]

rifle does slightly less damage, but has longer range and no/less bullet drop

[delicate nymph]

ah

[steel sluice]

I keep my parachute and skip regular fuel in my jetpack, MY preference. Better/worse isn't objective in most aspects of this game

[delicate nymph]

this game gets super complex as time goes on

[pastel harness]

But yeah I might have to settle for Train/logistics layer + Machine layer

[open tree]

i run both rifle and rebar gun pending the enemy im fighting.

[warped pawn]

stun rebar and xeno is all i use

[open tree]

and i keep nobelisks as emergency

[loud vault]

how do i get the constuctor to take stuff from the belt? its powered and i can hand feed it but the belts is not

[gentle jacinth]

i throw nobelisk at any wildlife i encounter

[steel sluice]

I alternated stun rebar and homing ammo

[pastel harness]

might be a stuck item, try rebuilding the belt?

[loud vault]

ye, a copper was in the chute blocking the iron

[fierce temple]

guys do we going to have a tag for satisfactory

[void gust]

Do we know if a sorting setting is planned for the dimensional depot inventory?

[pastel harness]

Yeah common occurance. You often can't see the blocking item

[delicate nymph]

i really hope so

just unknowingly placed things into it in a REALLY bad order

[loud vault]

i also had to stand at an angle to get it to highlight instead of the configure prompt coming up

[gray osprey]

Is there a place I can find the 1.1 press kit? the standard kit doesnt include the new logo or any new key art or etc.

[short pulsar]

Hmm I kinda wish the Chain Saw could run on other fuel types than solid biofuel so I don't have to carry the solid fuel too

[hard ivy]

Simple. Just carry nobelisks instead 🙃

[short pulsar]

Well sometimes I only need 1 tree removed.

Also I needed the biomass for the liquid biofuel although after realizing how much biomass I can get from slooped machines munching animal remains then that is no longer relevant

[fathom shuttle]

So I decided to build a temp bauxite set up until I can unlock blenders so I can use the instant scrap recipe instead of having a 2 stage process to make scrap

[hard ivy]

It's still a 2 step process because of the sulfuric acid

[fathom shuttle]

I assume the electrode scrap recipe has worse efficiency right?

[hard ivy]

Unless you don't loop the water

[fathom shuttle]

How bad could that be

[undone yarrow]

Electrode+Sloppy and Instant are identical

as far as making scrap goes

Instant in theory has easier water as the acid and waste water are 1:1

[fathom shuttle]

Electrode + sloppy is worse if you use the pure ingot recipe right

[open tree]

i didnt even think about this until i read this for the first time earlier.

[undone yarrow]

(of course then you have to deal with A: computer jank maybe emptying your pipes slowly and B: That you're spending sulfur on something other than power)

Instant Scrap and Electrode+Sloppy are the exact same amount of Aluminum per ore

[hard ivy]

The bauxite to scrap ratio is the same for instant scrap and the sloppy + electrode combo. The ingot recipe is irrelevant, because both can use pure or default

[undone yarrow]

And seeing as neither produces Silica, Pure vs Standard ingots are entirely up to you/irrelevant to the question

[fathom shuttle]

I’m not using rock fuel for power btw, I assume my 40GW power plant is enough right? At least until nuclear

[undone yarrow]

40 is plenty until t9

[hard ivy]

Speak for yourself lol

[open tree]

im pushing 13 GW at T8 but my factories are trash right now.

Attempting to run turbo fuel generators with the sloop booster

[zenith pecan]

I'm finding myself hating on the mk6 conveyor lifts, the bloody things keep not actually connecting to the floor holes.

[undone yarrow]

Huh, that's neat. Sulfric Acid is made at the same speed that Instant Scrap needs it.

[fathom shuttle]

I was sinking my rubber all this time while thinking why am I running out of it so fast lol

[gentle jacinth]

i wonder if theres a mod for more weapons

[simple sand]

Hopefully someone can help! How do you turn off controller settings with a controller. Having issues with my controller and want to go back to keyboard and mouse!

[fathom shuttle]

Go back to settings and set the controls to keyboard and mouse

[simple sand]

I can't without the controller, and I can't get my controller to connect.....

[fathom shuttle]

Uh

[spiral steeple]

did i miss something has 1.1 been out?

[open tree]

unplug it?

[fathom shuttle]

The game switches to one controls mode lol

So you’ll need a controller to revert to keyboard and mouse

I just tried it lol

[open tree]

if you unplug the controller and then reboot game will that work?>

[simple sand]

sadly no

[open tree]

is there a way to force keyboard and mouse via steam console controls during game launch commands?

[fathom shuttle]

Lil bro is cooked I guess

[simple sand]

that's what I'm hoping to find out! 🙂

[fathom shuttle]

What’s the problem with your controller?

[fluid sapphire]

Not sure why they didn't implement it the way other games do, just support KB and mouse and controller at the same time and change button prompts based on last touched input

[tropic bear]

got cast screws first try

lets go

[simple sand]

Upgraded GPU, had to lose the PCIe BLE card I was using and move to a USB BLE dongle. Now my controller wont connect and if I try to remove it from the bluetooth list is fails.

[fluid sapphire]

It's been out for about a week

[primal haven]

could get a usb to pcie adapter and use the first card

[simple sand]

Good call. I'm gonna keep trying! Hopefully I'm a crazy edge case!

Have good night!

[zenith pecan]

Here's what stacking all the smelters on top of the miner looks like #screenshots message , each tower has 20x smelters clocked at 200% to deal with a pure node each, right now it's a complete pain getting the splitters to line up though.

[lost wagon]

where tf is the factory car, was I scammed

[zenith pecan]

Once bought, you have the plans, you then build them

[lost wagon]

yea but they're not in the transport tab, or anywhere else unless I am blind

[zenith pecan]

Equipment workshop for the cart.

It is a flatpacked deployable vehicle.

[lost wagon]

ah

[vagrant oar]

song name?

[zenith pecan]

Ahh nuts, I need to shut youtube off when I do clips, err , ahh no problem, copyright free, here's the vid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSpwqZJJGCM

[vagrant oar]

sweet, many thanks

[dense violet]

instant scrap is still 2 stage, you hav eto make the acid

and honestly is probably more awkward to use as sulfur next to baux is fairly rare

[lucid pagoda]

whats yalls opinion on hidden spaghetti?

[zenith pecan]

Well I'll be damned, both slender towers are throwing 1200 ingots a piece, I still wish coffee stain would take another look at the vertical splitters/mergers and make them less irritating.

[open tree]

just put a 4m tall foundation over the spaghetti?

or enclose it in a wall?

[zenith pecan]

I'm not that keen on it tbh, though I have a habit of using glass floors etc to show the beltwork artwork in all its glory.

[lucid pagoda]

i do that for smaller factories, as i do larger ones though ive leaned towards hiding spaghetti and making the visible stuff look great

[zenith pecan]

I've just onlined two mining towers that are full on vertical, within a 1x3 foundation footprint, both will be enclosed in glass to show the crazy levels of vertical beltwork.

[burnt ferry]

am i reading something wrong or are water extractors more efficient than these pressure thingies?

power wise

[lucid pagoda]

probably, but the extractors (i think) are more for getting water in annoying places

[dense violet]

do whatever you're happy with, we're not your mum

[burnt ferry]

ye .. im just at one location where there is a water basin right next to some extraction place, so i guess i remove my pressure water thing

[lucid pagoda]

im just curious what yall think of it, im stalling on building a thing

[dense violet]

I'll sometimes do very thin logistic floors that can be messy underneat

its fine if you're ok with it

[lost wagon]

How muth tight can you make a belt spiral? Becase otherwise I don't think I will be able to use these pure coal veins until I get train or drone to transport it from up there, that crater lake area near the desert on the west

[zenith pecan]

Even my very thing logistics levels between floors, I won't clip or spaghetti them, they have to be in order for me.

[burnt ferry]

you can glitch belt lifts to any height using floor holes

[pastel harness]

Do you mean railway tracks?

[lost wagon]

Hm, I guess I could try that

[lost wagon]

No, actual belt

[zenith pecan]

The main thing I don't like about the mk6 conveyor lifts (aside from the irritating visual bugs) is that you cannot see things moving on them.

[pastel harness]

Gotta have neat factory

[pastel harness]

you can make them colourful tho which is nice

[spiral dew]

is there a way to make foundation/roofs always face the same direction/orientation lol

glass frame foundation for example has a beam in the middle that can be horiz or vert

[frail sleet]

mouse scroll

[spiral dew]

yeah but that means you have to visually check everytime you place it

not consistent

[frail sleet]

if you place it from the same direction it will be the same every time

you only use scroll wheel to fix orientation when you're building in a different direction

[dense violet]

why a spiral?just lots of lifts

you don't even need floor holes. Just connect them up with each other

[zenith pecan]

The floor holes allow a single lift to extend several kilometres if you so desired, lift to lift actually looks rather bad.

[fresh copper]

aight im moving to the dunes, phase 2 got messsyyy

[dense violet]

sure but can be annoyign putting foundations mid air

[solemn glacier]

"I don't sleep much, that's crazy how'd you know that?" --21 Pilots (The Contract)
Me once I got back into satisfactory

[fresh copper]

stayed up til 5 am my first night back into satisfactory

[solemn glacier]

W

i got back into satisfactory a couple of weeks ago

i have 45hrs in the past two weeks 💀

[hearty hollow]

guys is it a good idea to set up a dron system all around the map to take me back to my base

[solemn glacier]

no

use hypertube cannons

makes you feel like a superhero

[hearty hollow]

yea but i mean if im out away from any established place

i just roll up to the port and ride it back to base

[solemn glacier]

or you place 10 entrances in a row (from a blueprint), plop down a biofuel gen, and fly back

[hearty hollow]

oh well isnt that kinda lame

[vague sun]

plugin 'cartograph' failed to load because module 'cartograph' could not be loaded. there may be an operating system error or the module may not be properly set up. When I want to enter the game it gives me that error

[solemn glacier]

which is cooler?
mundanely flying back on a drone,
or soaring through the air like fuckin superman?

[hearty hollow]

i mean u got a poiny

[solemn glacier]

try verifying gamefiles

[hearty hollow]

but drones are mad fast

[vague sun]

Can someone tell me what it is?

[hearty hollow]

with the right fuel

[solemn glacier]

you got a point too

[vague sun]

I already did it and that error still appears

[solemn glacier]

try the qa

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[cyan garnet]

You can’t ride drones

[cyan garnet]

The mod might not yet be updated for 1.1. Ask about it in the modding discord

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[vague sun]

thx

[fathom shuttle]

Yea after looking a little bit it seems it’s best to just uses sloppy + electrode

[dense violet]

it's very convenient for large production factories. Not only is there oil not far from a lot of bauxite, but if you bring in huge amounts of bauxite to one spot you only need a bit of oil to process it all

[boreal musk]

do you have them at latest update? mine work fine

or, go to their discord and send the debug info and ping them

[fathom shuttle]

Yea I have 2400/min bauxite near by, or 4800/min if I’m willing to go farther. Oh and some refineries will take care of all my petroleum come needs

My only issue is the water, I regret paving over the lake instead of building up a little bit so I can have space for water extractors

[solemn glacier]

where are you?

[granite dove]

do yall prefer silicon circuit board or caterium circuit board?

[dense violet]

might want to find a dif location. Many bauxite nodes around

[granite dove]

in your defense most of the places where you need water they have more surface area than you need

[fathom shuttle]

Blue crater lake

I still have some left over space that I don’t need so I’ll just delete the foundations and convert all of it into water extractors

[granite dove]

what stage are you?

[fathom shuttle]

Phase 4, but only now I’ve been unlocking the things that are in it

[cursive acorn]

whats a good location for a megabase, and how do yall normally determine how much of everything you make?

[solemn glacier]

ok

if you cant get enoguh water, you can always train it in

[fathom shuttle]

Well I’m planning to keep everything close together, the logistics of moving an entire factory to a different location is nightmarish for me

[granite dove]

this

or you can build a large impractical water tower and just have 40 pipes of water coming in from the ocean

[fathom shuttle]

Caterium circuit boards def

[dense violet]

finish all the phases, then create your own project on what you want to do

and megabases depends on what you want to make. Highly not recommended if you haven't unlocked everything

[fathom shuttle]

Do you use it in your world?

I’m considering it seriously now lol

[solemn glacier]

trains?

[fathom shuttle]

Yes using them to transport water

[granite dove]

yea thats what i was thinking, technically speaking silicon circuit boards is better but caterium circuit boards has more node synergy with computers

[dense violet]

why do yo uhate yourself?

[solemn glacier]

i havent had to yet, but if i need to i would

[granite dove]

why do you think they hate themselves? its not that bad as long as the train is fast enough to outpace the pipes

and if it isnt, more train!

[dense violet]

moving a bunch of water by train? that's pain

build near your liquids.

[granite dove]

and if you cant, import them

[fathom shuttle]

Silicon is kind of annoying to mine and refine + caterium alternate is way faster and more compact

[fathom shuttle]

Yea that’s what I’m thinking, I’ll just pile the water over from a nearby lake

And the lake is uphill of me so I have that going in my favor

[granite dove]

just learn how to water tower

oh that works nevermind that

[gentle jacinth]

just started steel and turns out i was accidentally sinking all the ingots

[left arrow]

I realized I finally have a use for the two small buttons to the left of my left click on this gaming mouse: Up and Down nudge.
I also use my two thumb buttons for copy and paste settings.

I didn't expect Satisfactory to be the one game that makes me glad I have those.

[undone yarrow]

It happens

[gentle jacinth]

i think my factory is a bit too small for nuclear rod production

[left arrow]

Wait. "just started steel" and "nuclear rod" feels very contradictory to me x)

[gentle jacinth]

steel, concrete, steel beam, i dont even know what im doing im just playing in an all advanced settings save

[fathom shuttle]

How do I make trains go 150km/h?

[gentle jacinth]

go downhill

[fathom shuttle]

Ohhh I get it now

Does the train apply brakes automatically or no?

[left arrow]

Ah, ok ^^
I'm still on coal power so I was like, how did they make it to nuclear without a steel factory?! x)

[gentle jacinth]

im having to build outside of my factory to get 2 machines outside

[trim vine]

Anyone been having train problems since the update?

I'm getting a ton of signal loops for no reason

[gentle jacinth]

i will nuke my whole factory now i need sulfuric acid

ok nvm its not that bad to get

[lost wagon]

I remember now, the nudge mod that also let you nudge conveyor lift makes them work wireless lmao

[analog carbon]

I simply cannot play this game with the constant crashing

its like every 40 minutes of playtime

[gentle jacinth]

either all your machines or computer memory

[analog carbon]

im on like tier 4

[cyan garnet]

Make a thread in #1038092680493801533 and share crash logs

[left arrow]

Yeah, sounds like a "your specific PC" problem. Not saying it's not the game being at fault, but that's not the typical Satisfactory experience.

[gentle jacinth]

im able to run this with probably the worst laptop in the world to run it on

[left arrow]

Fingers crossed you can find a solution though, I know how annoying inexplicable crashes can be.

[gentle jacinth]

i think its gotta be memory though

[left arrow]

...having recently discovered what had been causing memory leaks and bluescreens on my machine for the past 5 years

(a faulty network card driver)

[lost wagon]

giving specs is a good start

[left arrow]

(I'll end my rant here, but why can't hardware companies make good software?)

[lost wagon]

because a billion of combinations of parts

can't account for all of them

[urban root]

This is why i hate and avoid realtek NIC's

[left arrow]

It was ASUS in this case. We're now two out of two for ASUS drivers causing my PC to fall apart; the first one was the driver for the motherboard's LEDs which consumed 100% of one CPU core x)

[undone yarrow]

Other than 3,500 versatile frameworks to unlock Bauxite, Steel is entirely optional because of Iron Pipe and a few other alts (IE encased pipe)

[lost wagon]

don't think I ever installed a driver for anything but gpu, I just leave windows do it

[urban root]

if you use ASUS mobo's you owe it to yourself to go into the bios and turn off armory crate. Then never install it. GPU and chipset drivers, then let windows fetch the rest.

[fathom shuttle]

More like iron is entirely optional because of steel screws and all the other goodies steel makes xD

[gentle jacinth]

most asus computers are horrible or the best things youll ever have

[undone yarrow]

Steel is made from Iron :P

[fathom shuttle]

How many SAM fluctuators do I need?

[gentle jacinth]

i hate steel

[undone yarrow]

Not a lot

[fathom shuttle]

I set up a 120/min production area but it’s kind of far away

[gentle jacinth]

got sulfuric acid booyahhhhh

[undone yarrow]

That is more than enough for your construction needs

[gentle jacinth]

now i have to deal with pipe gravity

[fathom shuttle]

I meant reanimated Sam lol

I’m not that crazy

[left arrow]

It's 6 reanimated SAM per fluctuator, so I know you need over 6000 reanimated SAM for MAM stuff...

[urban root]

its used to convert materials but most people don't tap everything so its not used as much.

[left arrow]

speaking of which, I'm manually crafting some flucturators right now x)

[gentle jacinth]

my factory conveyors are starting to look like some child made them

[undone yarrow]

The hard required use for Reanimated SAM (and not fluctuators) is Ficsite Trigons which are in turn used for 2 space elevator parts, the 110 things for the mk 3 blueprint and a good amount of construction, but even then...

On its own Reanimated SAM is only useful for MAM research before phase 9 or making flucuators for Depots and Alien Gens

[fathom shuttle]

Crazy

[gentle jacinth]

and the worst part is, its all minerals i need from OUTSIDE my factory

[left arrow]

honestly though, it's crafting the fluctuators that's slow.

[fathom shuttle]

Use a manufacturer and sloop them lol

[undone yarrow]

Its just Iron and SAM to make em though :P

anyway, bye bye chat

[left arrow]

eh, I rarely use sloop for stuff like that, I just let it take its time. plenty of other stuff to do

[fathom shuttle]

With a slooped and OC machine I can do 50/min

[left arrow]

but in my 1.1 save I'm crafting them by hand when I need them

[gentle jacinth]

it gets sketchy whenever my sulfiric acid starts draining but then goes back up

fixed it by just attaching like 2 more pumps

i hate how gravity works in this game because theres a 90% chance that it wont fill up and i wont be able to use nuclear reactor

[fathom shuttle]

I’ll need 93 Mercer spheres to unlock all dimensional storage tech tree

Like damn bro

[warm ferry]

Actual worst grind in the game

[left arrow]

yeah, I'm already reaching the diminishing returns...

but it'll give me an excuse to make a radio tower

[warm ferry]

I did it once and it was actually obnoxious

[fathom shuttle]

So how fast is upload speed?

[warm ferry]

Mk3 at final I believe

[gentle jacinth]

how do i make buffers stop randomly drain

[fathom shuttle]

Damn, what if I put more than one uploaded to one item will that work

[warm ferry]

Could be liquid sloshing in pipes I’ve had issues like that before.

Wdym @fathom shuttle

[gentle jacinth]

i might just move the buffer down one meter

[warm ferry]

I would honestly rework the entire pipeline system

[fathom shuttle]

Can I dedicate multiple up loaders for one items

[warm ferry]

Or detach and flush

[gentle jacinth]

its one pipe

[steady glade]

fill it up

[warm ferry]

Yes, but an entirely seperate depot

[warm ferry]

Yikes, what application is it

[gentle jacinth]

its going from refinery to buffer, and the only thing being output for liquid is sulfuric acid

[warm ferry]

Why the buffer?

[gentle jacinth]

storage for now, i dont remember what else i need very well for nuclear reactor

[warm ferry]

Are ypu trying to just deposit your excess?

I would honestly try to milk all of your sulfuric, or turn it into batteries

Cause it’s one of the 2 liquids you can’t really turn into an item

[gentle jacinth]

encased uranium cell

10 uranium, 3 concrete and 8 sulfuric acid with a byproduct

[warm ferry]

What’s byproduct again

[gentle jacinth]

2 sulfuric acid

[warm ferry]

Oh yea I would honestly feed it back into your loop

[steady glade]

2nd output

[warm ferry]

Jump start then underclock sulfuric production

[gentle jacinth]

i wish there was a sink sink which was like a sink that took liquids instead of solid stuff

[warm ferry]

LMAO TRUTH

[gentle jacinth]

conveyor portals would be cool so i wouldnt have to make the ugliest conveyor system for coal sulfur iron a lot of resources

[warm ferry]

Realistically. Produce 8 sulfuric/m then once you back up under lock to 6

The excess then should cover the difference

But make sure your pipes are full

Like fill the machine, standby,fill the pipes, under lock.

That’s how I would go about it

Worse comes to worse put your fluid buffers below your sulfur production and just flush the buffers every once and a while

Obnoxious yes, but it technically works

[gentle jacinth]

buffer is almost full somehow

yeah the pipes in this game dont make sense ever, for my oil factory it works but when it comes to sulfuric acid it refuses to fill

[warm ferry]

I’ve had similar issues with alumina solution

[gentle jacinth]

its decreasing flow rate randomly in the pipes

it stopped draining when i put a headlift in

[gentle jacinth]

might be because of how little it makes

[warm ferry]

Yea could be

[fathom shuttle]

I just need the goddamn aluminum production bruh

[warm ferry]

I would try clocking the encased down to like 0

Filling it as much as you can

[terse bone]

anyone got optiscaler to work with Satisfactory in Windows?

[fathom shuttle]

I’ll unlock mk5 belts after this and begin building da real factory

[warm ferry]

Then standby that hoe

Love my mk5s

[fathom shuttle]

Oh my god

[gentle jacinth]

i hate mk6 because the belt is very very contrasting against my factory

[fathom shuttle]

Mk5 belts would make the pure iron ingot recipe absolutely perfect

[gentle jacinth]

i wonder if theres a mod that lets me spawn nodes to test

[fathom shuttle]

12 constructors make 780 iron ingots, from 420 iron ore

[gentle jacinth]

found one that uses power shards, ill see if its my pipes

[fathom shuttle]

Oh and I’ll only need 240/min water per row

Hmm but I can only do 22 smelters, because of the limitations of mk5 belts, I’ll need to figure out a way to balance this

[latent prawn]

the other way that math works out nicely is that 1200 - 420 = 780 - you can make 2 mk5 belts out of 1200 iron that way, or if you really need a lot you can do 420+420 on pure + and 360 on default or basic

many of the alt recipes have some complementary recipe for evening out their yields into less ugly numbers

[fathom shuttle]

The problem is that I only have mk5 belts, so I can’t use the full 1200 of mk3 miner lol

[latent prawn]

yeah, its like a 'later' sorta thing, but you can plan for doubling your capacity that way

[fathom shuttle]

Yea true, i could turn off the excess smelters too

[latent prawn]

yeah, lots of things that can be done, for sure

[fathom shuttle]

I have 2 pure iron nodes, so in the future that 2400/min iron ore

Close to 4300/min iron ingots

[latent prawn]

in all honesty, as you get into phase 4 & 5 stuff, iron gets to be much less of a concern. most of it for me ends up going to steel/hmf's and then there's an occasional bit needed for nitric acid here & there and then when you'd doing singularity cells in the endgame, they eat iron plates like hmf's eat concrete

there's just not a lot of midgamish stuff that uses iron

*exception: all-iron motors

[delicate nymph]

any tricks for quiclky moving

[willow laurel]

So is controller support on pc gonna release when console releases drop?

[delicate nymph]

got to walk around the entire map to get sloop and mercer

[urban root]

!blade_runners

[delicate nymph]

allready have those

[tame violet]

jetpack

[delicate nymph]

i also have a jetpack

[tame violet]

then you have everything

[delicate nymph]

im using liquid biofuel currerntly

[tame violet]

oh well youl lwant to get better fuel

like rocket fuel

[urban root]

its already out.

[urban root]

or ionized fule

[left arrow]

regular fuel is kind of a letdown though

[delicate nymph]

cant afford that one

[willow laurel]

Blade runners+slide+jumping+slightly downhill wires for grinding or hypertube exit b-hopping

[steady glade]

make about 300m of rail, 2 stations, train surfing running slide

[left arrow]

I just zipline x)

[delicate nymph]

whats hypertube exit b hopping

[late void]

Hypertube cannons

[delicate nymph]

building one right now

[willow laurel]

B hopping is when you jump exactly the moment you touch the ground to keep your momentum in some games

[delicate nymph]

ah

[willow laurel]

Combining that with a hypertube cannon will allow you to speed anywhere

[steady glade]

you wanna arc up left and right

[willow laurel]

Anyways
So theres pc controller support now for satisfactory?

[steady glade]

technically

[willow laurel]

technically?

[steady glade]

it doesnt work out of the box i guess?

[willow laurel]

Damn, guess imma keep waiting

[delicate nymph]

how many enterernces do i need for the cannon

[steady glade]

a few dozens i guess

[thorny valley]

Any good at rail?

[steady glade]

start with 36, see where that leads you

[steady glade]

depends, for what?

[thorny valley]

How does one make good curves and good rail blue prints

[steady glade]

minimal increment rotation at the outer side edge of the foundation, and there's a site for ready made blueprints if you want something aesthetic without making it yourself

[delicate nymph]

k

[thorny valley]

Is it scim?

[steady glade]

yup

[thorny valley]

Is there a way to get these blue prints on to the server im on? I do have admin on it

[steady glade]

import the blueprint? download sbp, add to your files

[leaden ether]

My retro-future alien tech factory facade has come far enough to post a screen shot of it finally. #screenshots message

[urban root]

You need access to the servers files or SFTP to the server to add them to

[thorny valley]

Ah okay

[carmine bear]

guys. 2, 600m3/mm fluid per minute, or 300m3mm/? some say 300 is better. or even 599.99

[steady glade]

but im assuming youre tapping a pure oil node

[delicate nymph]

too much

may have crashed somehow

[steady glade]

lmao cool

[carmine bear]

we're you talking to me?

[steady glade]

yea i was talking to you but answering the wrong message

[carmine bear]

oh loll

[steady glade]

i was saying stay under 600 if possible but i think you're tapping an oil node

[carmine bear]

so, 4 300m3/mm pipes?XD

[carmine bear]

yep. :p thats the case

id rather not waste. but if i have to...

[steady glade]

nah its fine, for the most part, if you prefill they should all work fine even if you use it all up

[carmine bear]

i have prefilled... a few times.

[steady glade]

just dont get bottlenecked later

[carmine bear]

always drains :p

[steady glade]

loopback and buffer

[fleet jetty]

Hello everyone,

I'm starting a new game in Satisfactory and I'm planning to build modular factories. I'm wondering what the best approach is when it comes to organizing production chains.

Should I design each factory to handle the entire production chain for a given item, starting from raw ores or basic resources?
Or would it be better to create more modular, specialized factories that each produce only one item, and then distribute those items to other factories down the line?

I'd love to hear how others approach this kind of setup. Thanks in advance!

[steady glade]

1st one is easier, because there are a lot of intermediary items

[carmine bear]

can i dm you and send photos? its okay if not.

[steady glade]

yeah sure

[leaden ether]

IMHO the most sensible approach is somewhere exactly inbetween. 5-6 larger factories with mostly thier own production but sharing the more difficult to make or higher end resouces with each other.

[fleet jetty]

Thx i didn't think about this problem as i'm still making iron plate

[wicked marlin]

Bruh why cant the chainsaw use packaged liquid biofuel?

[leaden ether]

I am in the early stages of planning a new playthrough and am purposely taking a less sensible approach and relying on a much more extensive train system since I liked using them so much in my current save.

[modest rune]

I created a sever on indifférent brocoli. Not 5 minutes in I already couldn't place foundations... Are all hosts broken? 😭

[quick monolith]

I have the same issue, same provider. Restarting the server seems to make it better for a while, but it does come back eventually

[dense violet]

I probably wouldn’t worry about doing well structured factories early on. Just unlock things as you need and then build well planned factories

[frail sleet]

1.1 has some gamebreaking multiplayer bugs that prevent you from building

If you host, they don't affect you - but if you're connecting to somebody or to a server, they do. So just hosting manually and having only the host build the foundations/blueprints that you need etc is a workaround for now, but broadly 1.1 is in a poor state for multiplayer.

[quick monolith]

Regardless of current players I'm assuming?

[frail sleet]

Yeah, if you're not playing as the host then several aspects of building either often break or just don't work at all.

[quick monolith]

Logging out and back in or restarting the server fixes it for a while but that's obviously not optimal

[gentle jacinth]

im so close to this stupid encased uranium cell

either i go make a new all advanced settings save or deal with me making a small factory

[young moon]

is there a way to hotkey or quickselect specific colors in the customizer?

[boreal musk]

you can place them on hotbar

[young moon]

the individual colors?

[boreal musk]

the swatch itself

[young moon]

yeah I know that but then I have to cycle to the right color everytime I pick it

I was wondering if there was a way around having to do that

[steady glade]

not really, colors are a bit annoying to navigate

[young moon]

alright, I'll just make due. thank you 🙂

[gentle jacinth]

im losing my marbles trying to get nuclear reactor fuel

[frail sleet]

how so? Like, what part

[gentle jacinth]

electromagnetic control rods

having to make a whole seperate factory just to have space for it

[upper grove]

does the production planner have an option of listing multiple outputs of the same item using different recipes? need a mix of residual and crude oil plastic for something I'm planning out but it doesn't seem like I can have more than one kind of recipe for the same item

[steady glade]

you can

just like half and half from each recipe for a given item?

[gentle jacinth]

ok turns out i only needed a few things for ai limiter i did the wrong recipe

[upper grove]

it was like, I wanted 2/2 machines for 2/2 plastic and rubber production from crude oil to ship, while also using polymer byproduct from my turbofuel production for containers to package said turbo

mind sending me just pictures in dms of the buttons for me to differentiate it in the planner

[celest prawn]

i have a hot idea right off the overdue press line drum roll half walls! i.e. 4m x 4m so it fits the short side of the half foundation

[gentle jacinth]

why not use basic wall which is 1 meter

[steady glade]

oooh whoops sorry youi meant in the planner, i use the modeler

[celest prawn]

wrong dimension

[upper grove]

oh lol it's alright

[gentle jacinth]

ohh

[upper grove]

I'll just math it on paper or something

[boreal laurel]

my conveyors are bottlenecking and I don't know why. It's driving me crazy.

[celest prawn]

basic is 1m (H) x 8m (W) i want a 4m (H) x 4m (W)

[steady glade]

just use the modeler, you can set part or machine count and organize the graph

[upper grove]

oh, yeah ill look into it then

[steady glade]

check your lift and conveyour, one of them is the wrong level

[boreal laurel]

I got frustrated and went through and completely did it with the highest level conveyors and it still isn't working 😒

[urban root]

the modeler works great. I just build a 1920/min aluminum ingot line after messing with the modeler.

[steady glade]

is it the same for the i/o of the machines?

[boreal laurel]

unsure. I'm pretty new to the game. I've noticed that when I link a bunch of outputs together the furthest-back output always seems to choke up

[cursive crane]

@open robin you think that power will last you but just building out infrastructure during the beginning of phase 4 can eat all that power up lol

Also make sure to get some power storage towers up.

[urban root]

Generally that means you're making more than a full belt can move

[steady glade]

yeah, if the conveyor inst a tier higher than your production creates, dont expect the machines to empty their internal buffer

[cursive crane]

Or its possible there might be a small section of belt that wasnt upgraded^

[boreal laurel]

I went through and rebuilt everything to account for that possibility

[urban root]

^^ we all face this demon

[open robin]

I am in phase 1, we are waiting on the boys to get online to get to phase 2. I got tired of waiting and decided to hook up four pure geysers to our Bio-Burner-sized power grid.

[urban root]

its usually hiding in a lift, splitter or merger.

[cyan moss]

-_- no matter how I try to place conveyor lifts atm it wont snap to stackable convetor poles this is annoying

[open robin]

There is nothing left for me to automate and it is JUST waiting to move on

[gentle jacinth]

ive been playing satisfactory for a solid 6 hours i feel like throwing up is this a common side effect

[boreal laurel]

What's the most efficient way to link multiple outputs to inputs?

[cyan moss]

did the update that came out break conveyor lifts... there's literally no reason for this to not be working

[steady glade]

is it a stutter or do the items move slower than the belt animation?

[steady glade]

generally manifold merger

[cyan moss]

no reason why I can't link conveyor lift to 1 tall stackable conveyor pole

[steady glade]

it does work for me, but do you wanna snap to the pole or the belt?

[cyan moss]

either or, both should work just fine

[steady glade]

so you havent put the belt on

[cyan moss]

I've literally tried 90 ways

[steady glade]

then im not sure why it doenst work if you're properly aiming at the support

[cyan moss]

not gonna list every variation

[boreal laurel]

Not familiar with that term. Do you just mean merging the outputs through successive mergers and then dividing them among the new inputs with splitters?

[boreal laurel]

Stutter

[cyan moss]

not like first time doing it either

[steady glade]

yes that's it

[cursive crane]

Search youtube for "satisfactory load balancing vs manifold"

[steady glade]

if it stutters at the end of your outputs, then your inputs cant handle it all, if it stutters in the middle of your merger, get used to it or use priority mergers with the center at max priority

[gentle jacinth]

its 2am do i keep trying to get nuclear power or do i go to sleep

[left arrow]

go to sleep

[steady glade]

GET IT TWISTED

[left arrow]

(I'm a hypocrite of course, it's 3am here)

[steady glade]

keep going

[gentle jacinth]

but i need nuclear power

[steady glade]

you gotta complete it

[left arrow]

the factory must grow

[urban root]

yes

[cursive crane]

Productivity will improve after the pioneer has had rest, rest now produce later

[boreal laurel]

Grr I really don't understand this it's driving me crazy

[distant pulsar]

Merge onto one belt up to the max belt speed you have, then split that line.

[steady glade]

right then what are you making and what do you turn that into?

[gentle jacinth]

ada just called me a monster

[steady glade]

she's right, now go endanger some more species

[gentle jacinth]

already did

no more weird frog things, no more hogs, and i think theres 2 more lizard dogs

[steady glade]

if the radar tower find signs of life forms its not over

[gentle jacinth]

we need a pollution mechanic and overtime you see less plants, it gets darker, and wildlife gets weaker and eventually stops spawning

of course you are unaffected by it

[steady glade]

the map is hand made, you'd have to move farther to get biomass, and newbies would be on a clock

[warped pawn]

can someone give a brief explanation of how block signals and path signals should be placed? while in a junction

[gentle jacinth]

0 way to remove pollution unless you remove all your machines

[steady glade]

path signal where rails branch out or where they turn to join another line, block sigal otherwise

[boreal laurel]

To simplify it I'm revamping my iron production and I have two iron smelters hooked up to 5 iron rod constructors. To save space, the iron from the smelters goes down a single line to each constructor, which has a splitter in front of it, which leads to the constructor and to the next splitter down the line. I'm aware that this means that successive constructors would get a smaller share of the iron because each splitter splits 50/50, but it was my understanding that it would self-correct when the first machine fills up and the remainder is directed on to the next splitter.

[steady glade]

path signals reject entry unless the following block allows it, so if you chain a bunch of path signals, they will only accept passage if the block signal after them does

[steady glade]

2 iron smelters make 60/m, rods take 15/m, so you can have 4

[boreal laurel]

The iron smelters are overclocked to compensate

[steady glade]

and yes thats how nanifolds work

[steady glade]

then do you have mk2 belts?

[boreal laurel]

I'm up to mk3 right now. I have the belts all upgraded to the level that should be necessary. The first smelter only puts out 45/min, so it has mk1. After it merges with the second smelter and goes over 60/min, I upgraded it to mk2 in that section.

[warped pawn]

so wheres it go?

[steady glade]

refer to the previous message, path signal where it gets dangerous (read derailment), block signals otherwise

[warped pawn]

so like junction area?

[steady glade]

segment the networks into blocks at least as long as your biggest train

[steady glade]

yes

[steady glade]

can you climb on top of your smelter and take a pic of the conveyor line please?

[gentle jacinth]

playing satisfactory isnt like your little kitty cat game, you lose your mind and make conveyors that only children would make

[boreal laurel]

Sure

[gentle jacinth]

i need to kill wildlife after this

I FINALLY GOT THE URANIUM FUEL ROD

[boreal laurel]

Actually I don't have image perms 😩

[left arrow]

#screenshots

is where we post all images 🙂

[steady glade]

post to #screenshots , and copy paste the message link

[boreal laurel]

Ah, thanks

[gentle jacinth]

i have so many resources waiting to be crafted into a fuel rod do i just make another floor to make more

[left arrow]

Gosh, I unlocked Blueprints Mk2 and have no idea where to start. Like I know how they work, but I don't have enough practice to know what I'll find convenient x)

I feel like I need to watch more videos now that auto-connect is a thing too ^^

[steady glade]

its the same as mk1 but 2x as big

[boreal laurel]

@steady glade #screenshots message

[left arrow]

I just skip Mk1 because until I have Mk4 belt I don't really have a use for it

[boreal laurel]

Thanks for the help, by the way.

[steady glade]

its cool

so the belt after the clog is mk2?

[distant pulsar]

What I do is:

1. Generic left to right smelting manifold
2. Generic left to right constructor manifold
3. Generic left to right assembler manifold

Then you can reuse that for anything

[boreal laurel]

The very first belt where the clog is occurring is mk1, since that machine produces under 60/min. The next belt right after the splitter is mk2, since the two smelters combined produce over 60/min.

I've tried upgrading the whole line just to see and it didn't do anything.

[cyan moss]

so for every 8 coal gens I use 3 water pumps with the middle pump splitting between the other 2?

[steady glade]

is that 2nd smelter empty now?

[distant pulsar]

I just do 1 water pump to every two coal gens so I don't drive myself crazy

[steady glade]

yes pretty much, its likely easier to have them all go to the generators, on either end and in the middle

[left arrow]

Also, be careful when putting mergers right next to a machine, it's easy to forget that tiny bit of belt between them is a mk1.

[boreal laurel]

Second smelter in the line is empty, but the first one slowly builds up since the conveyor isn't transporting its full output.

[boreal laurel]

Is it not okay for the belt to be mk1? The constructors in question only need like 15/min or so.

[steady glade]

5 rod constructors use and make 75/m, your overclocked smelters make 90

[left arrow]

I meant that, in generaal, it's easy to accidentally leave a tiny belt of the wrong mk somewhere if you can't see it.

[steady glade]

add one more constructor

[reef basin]

Basically anything that you keep repeating, e.g. design elements or small modular production lines

[gentle jacinth]

am i able to sink nuclear waste

[granite dove]

no

[steady glade]

welcome to Eco-Responsible Fuel Disposal™

[granite dove]

mild nuclear spoilers ||you are eventually able to craft them into other types of fuel rods and sink those, and the last fuel rod down the line doesnt produce waste iirc||

[gentle jacinth]

so do i just pour it all on the wildlife

[steady glade]

you wann have the lizard doggos eat it

[granite dove]

wasnt that patched?

[gentle jacinth]

ive thrown so many things down the void

[left arrow]

I know we're having multiple conversations at once haha, but more on blueprints...
by left-to-right manifold, do you mean you have a blueprint that's got multiple constructors on it with input and output manifolds, or something else?

[steady glade]

just the spliters/mergers with a bit of belt hanging out for the autoconnect

[gentle jacinth]

i think i have 3 cyber wagons in the void, one gold factory cart

and i think ill throw something else down there again soon

[granite dove]

absolute worst case scenario you just have to open the satisfactory calculator and remove the waste/ vehicles that have been banished

[reef basin]

depends which waste are you talking about (though neither is sinkable 😛 )

[gentle jacinth]

yeah looks like im going to pour it on wildlife then

nearly 3am i think i need to atleast get the waste somewhere before i sleep

[left arrow]

This is a tentative blueprint for quicker manufacturer manifolds. #screenshots message

[gentle jacinth]

i have 50 rods in the fuel storage for the reactor

i wish it used them faster. even with overclock it goes super slow

[left arrow]

Welp, I'll think about blueprints more tomorrow and/or some other time. Just saw the time.

which reminds me, I'll change the "server restart" from 4am to 2am because the warning is like the game telling me I'm being unreasonable x)

(default of midnight seemed to easy to just ignore for me, haha)

[warped pawn]

theres never being unreasonable when it comes to satisfactory

[leaden turret]

css saying no to golf is unreasonable 😛

[left arrow]

With ADHD it's so easy to forget to eat and/or sleep when playing a game that alternates between requiring a lot of focus and requiring methodical, repetitive actions.

Reminder that health is not covered by the the FICSIT health program.

So yeah, using the server restart time as a clear sign I have to stop playing seems like a good idea considering I live alone and ADA's not going to stop me from being too productive.

[warped pawn]

ada once told me sleep is a waste of time

[left arrow]

From a machine's perspective, I guess it is. Sleep is just a needlessly long reboot.

And a robust machine shouldn't need reboots to begin with ^^

[gentle jacinth]

ada calls me a monster

[granite dove]

I find it helps to think of sleep like a computer is trying to update itself using itself with little to no outside help

[left arrow]

Well, guess it's a good thing I stopped the game. Heavy storm might cut my power any moment.

[warped pawn]

whats the diff between power switch and priority one

[leaden turret]

what happens when things go bweeeooop

[halcyon raft]

they ruin game when they make those big factory building, they just dont fit nowhere, flop hard

[shy mulch]

who what?

[warped pawn]

whatt

i got this blueprint that makes modular engines cuz ion wanna make a whole setup and all i had to do is put the items max out all upgrades and now i gotta wait

[hollow hazel]

Hapy Midsomersloop!

[chilly parcel]

Wait they actually used let's game it out's conveyor belt cocoon on the steam page

[shut vigil]

so is rokcet fuel better now than turbo fuel?

[hard ivy]

I'd say even regular fuel is better than turbofuel

But yes, rocket is better than both

[reef basin]

depends wdym by "better"

[warped pawn]

in what way do u mean>

?

[frail sleet]

available earlier, uses less contested resources and is easier to scale

[hard ivy]

The only advantage Turbofuel has over Fuel is Oil efficiency. That's it. It's more complicated, requires sulfur which isn't commonly found near oil and requires about as much space as Fuel

So unless you care about oil efficiency and nothing else, there's no reason to make Turbofuel over just Fuel

[warped pawn]

i see

[shut vigil]

with rocket you can claw back some of that sulfur thats required

but looking at the math i would need to do

i couldnt care less

[split flower]

Do the Oil islands next to the Jungle Spires have a name amongst the community besides the official "Western Beaches"?

[shut vigil]

on the left side of the map?

[split flower]

yes

[shut vigil]

idk i call them the tar pits

[peak wasp]

Anything new on the console realese?

[hard ivy]

You can wishlist it in the store and (probably) get a notification when it releases

[warped pawn]

whats the alt recipe for mass increasing the amount of stuff u get from crude oil? i saw some guy make a massive curde oil factory from 600/m crude oil

[reef basin]

that really depends on what the "stuff" you want to increase is

[warped pawn]

just fuel

[reef basin]

for most fuel per oil, you want to get alternate HOR + diluted (packaged) fuel

[warped pawn]

how long would a setup like that take to make? If you know ofc

[reef basin]

eh, hard to say, given everyone builds at different speed and in different style

[warped pawn]

ic

[tropic dawn]

Is it possible to delete and replace the space elevator? If so, will the progress be saved?

[hard ivy]

Heavy Oil Residue and Diluted Fuel (Packaged or Blender)

[warped pawn]

is there any one thats better than the other?

[warped pawn]

any building that upgrades saves progress

[hard ivy]

Both versions of Diluted Fuel have the same oil efficiency, the Packaged version can be used in Refineries but is more annoying to set up and the Blender version requires, well, a Blender

[tropic dawn]

so i can delete it?

[warped pawn]

never knew.

[reef basin]

if you're a bit smart about it, then the packaged version is not at all annoying and practically equal to blender variant

[short pulsar]

You can delete and rebuild it as many times as you like. And each time you get the cool animation

[south sinew]

so with the base recipe, you have 1 oil -> 0.66 fuel, with HOR alt and DPF, 1 oil -> 1.33 HOR -> 2.66 fuel

so that seems pretty stonks

[hard ivy]

Yeah, the oil alts are weirdly efficient. I don't think there's this much difference anywhere else in the game

[south sinew]

even with HOR alt and residual fuel, it's 1 oil -> 1.33 HOR -> 0.9 fuel, so diluted fuel is really crazy more efficient

[viral tendon]

What's diluted fuel again

[hard ivy]

The recycling loop is even better. It can turn 1 Oil into 3 Plastic/Rubber. The default recipes do 0.66 per oil

[viral tendon]

Fuel from straight oil?

[rancid hearth]

Guys, is it possible to "mirror rotate" a factory ?

[hard ivy]

Not without mods

Even with mods, idk

[short pulsar]

Diluted fuel turns 1 HOR + 2 Water into 2 fuel

[reef basin]

I doubt it, as many machines aren't symmetrical to be flipped

[rancid hearth]

I see, thx

[south sinew]

1 HOR + 2 water -> 2 fuel

[viral tendon]

Interesting

[short pulsar]

I wish it was possible to mirror machines to flip the sides of the inputs/outputs

[south sinew]

Seems like it's only good if you have cheap Fuel from diluted fuel no? since most of that extra is driven by turning 1 fuel into 1 plastic/rubber

[reef basin]

yeah, it pairs well with diluted (packaged) fuel

[warped pawn]

i just finished tier 3 now im tier 4 with all the materials for most stuff in tier 7 and 8 lol

[cunning atlas]

Howdy! First time here, can I ask how many lines peeps usually build per normal mining node? I'm kinda assuming impure = 1 line, normal = 2 lines, pure = 3 lines.

[tall lantern]

lines?

[cunning atlas]

production lines

[tall lantern]

build whatever you need to process the amount coming out

or rather, take what you need to make what as much as you want to make

[reef basin]

normally people don't build "lines per node", they pick a production goal and build it near nodes it needs

[swift goblet]

a miner can, on average and not over clocking, will provide "3 lines".

[tall lantern]

1 line

[reef basin]

what?

where did you get this from

[tall lantern]

chatgpt

how much you split your miner into really does depend on how much you're making

[reef basin]

and how much the production lines need

in lategame, you'll have several nodes feeding just one production line

[hard ivy]

Impure provides half of normal, and pure double normal (4x impure)

Assuming same clock speed and miner tier and that you have a belt fast enough to take all the ore out

But the number of production lines depends on what they are and the speed of the miner. You can run multiple off a single impure node, or you might need several pure nodes to supply one

[cunning atlas]

i see, thanks for helps 🙂

[warped pawn]

i was gonna package and unpackage fuel cuz i thought it would dupe but turns out im wrongg😭

is it worth it to dupe aluminum scrap, theres a ton of water that comes with it

[hard ivy]

Packagers don't take sloops sadly

I would never put sloops in a permanent factory if I can make double and not use them

[zenith pecan]

If packagers took sloops, a setup like this would produce free fuel #satisfactory-experimental message

[warped pawn]

is the aluminum scrap recipe worse than the alt?

[hard ivy]

I use all alts for aluminium: sloppy, electrode, pure

[zenith pecan]

The instant one? , I'm not keen on it personally but many swear by it.

[warped pawn]

okays

ima use alumina solution recipe to save me from having to get quartz

[zenith pecan]

Sloppy & pure together eliminate silica from the setup completely, the electrode swaps coal for petro-coke, which produces more scrap at the cost of using refineries to make the coke, it is a good setup,

Build your pipework in the simplest smallest possible setup, otherwise you'll get a failure that'll match one I had recently.

[hard ivy]

I am aware. Before release, we theorized on Reddit that it wouldn't really be worth the sloops for basically anything except Nitrogen. Packagers are slow and would need 2 sloops each

[warped pawn]

ive seen tons of youtubers struggle with aluminum.. im scared

[south sinew]

it's not that hard

[warped pawn]

they have huge setups i mean

[hard ivy]

Just don't mix fresh and byproduct water and you'll be fine

[red linden]

Are the alternative recipes worthwile?

[warped pawn]

pure recipe gets less aluminum per scrap than the normal recipe

[zenith pecan]

Maybe liquid biofuel as that cannot be automated, the rest would be a waste of time and sloops for sure.

[warped pawn]

absolutely

[zenith pecan]

Also no silica input.

[warped pawn]

is there any difference?

[red linden]

does that mean that once I gef them I get to also relink/rebuild my manufacturing?

[tall lantern]

you could, but don't have to

[hard ivy]

Water is water, but mixing the 2 sources requires some intelligent setup to make sure you don't deadlock

[tall lantern]

it's not like your old factory stops working, and it's generally not the best use of time to tear down working stuff

[red linden]

I see

[hard ivy]

Only if you decide you want to use the resources in a different way

Otherwise it's not really worth the time to remove working factories

[warped pawn]

can u guys check #screenshots to see if i found a good location?

[tall lantern]

does it have the resources you need? then it's good

[hard ivy]

I like to put my basic aluminium on the western beach and advanced aluminium in the swamp

[ripe basin]

Good day guys

[zenith pecan]

I'll take working facilities down when I want to make better use of the resources, an early game iron plant using a mk1 miner drawing a pure isn't an ideal candidate for permanency.

[hard ivy]

But if it has the resources you need, it's as good of a location as any other

[red linden]

So far I had a single extension to the space elevator so I have some time before scrapping stuff

[warped pawn]

im friggin scared of spiders man😭🙏🙏

[zenith pecan]

I only tore out my early game (depot) feeding silica & quartz crystall factory after building a permanent installation elsewhere that used a couple of annoying to get to quartz nodes far from where most of my manufacturing is, hell that place will also make 60 crystal oscillators pm once I connect the two slender tower mines to it.

[warped pawn]

i want to make a pretty big aluminum facility to not worry about it for a while

[zenith pecan]

This big #screenshots message ?

[hard ivy]

Yeah, well, I run creatures on retaliate nowadays

I've explored the map enough times on default settings and I feel like I've earned it by now

[warped pawn]

same lmao i tried passive but it just feels wrong

[tall lantern]

in my last save I never even did that in the end. The only thing I tore down was an old simple fuel plant to make way for large-scale P5 processing

[warped pawn]

pretty much, ive seen how much its used

[zenith pecan]

Moving all the bauxite to one location is a mammoth task on its own.

[red linden]

bro it will take me 300 hours to get to that level

[zenith pecan]

Why worry, this game is a sandbox, not a race, take all the time you need to build vast complexes, or follies, or just concrete statues dedicated to a somersloop, it''s your game 😄

[warped pawn]

i have a TON of resources, i slowed my progression by a ton becuase i was building a huge iron factory and paused all space components, i had all the stuff to make them but i was focused on the factory and exploration, i think i had like 1 week of pausing space parts

[red linden]

Well true but what I am really missing is mobility especially when laying down pipes, I have a need to fly

[hard ivy]

A few 2-8 trains and it's not that bad. All the nodes are mostly in a line

[zenith pecan]

Mine mostly goes along the length of one giant tunnel that goes west to east.

[warped pawn]

f-15EX is a better jet

[warped pawn]

theyre all in the middle of the map going east-west pretty much

setting up a train system wouldnt look too bad.. i think

[zenith pecan]

If you're wanting creative, you can use the advanced game settings, at the cost of 0 achievements, that does have a fly mode, not really for me tbh.

[zenith pecan]

The train would likely be on a vast elevated setup thanks to some of the mines being at altitude.

[frail sleet]

fly mode is like a nonshit version of the hoverpack. It doesn't have laggy controls which make it really awkward to build, it can go faster, and it doesn't turn off when you go more than X meters from a power pole

it also gives even higher interact distance

[red linden]

Yak-130 is a training jet, so not surprising

[warped pawn]

while looking for spaceship part maker blueprints i found these place anywhere nodes and they can extract any resource anywhere, ofc i wont be like using it to the max but i will be using it to just make my builds just look better, such as placing it over a foundation where the ore node would be, like said before, only for better decor and snapping

[warped pawn]

thats obtained by disabling achievents

[zenith pecan]

Doesn't matter if you already have the achievements.

[warped pawn]

turning off achievents feels like playing minecraft on creative mode without friends or something to experiment, Pointless

[hard ivy]

Finally, a fellow Hoverpack hater!

Once I get all the achievements, I'm going back to enabling flight mode after unlocking the Hoverpack. For now Jetpack with LBF will have to do

[frail sleet]

I got all of the achievements first

[zenith pecan]

I already have all the achievements, tbh I still don't use AGS because it doesn't feel right.

[frail sleet]

The power tether range just feels like half of what it should be, and the way that you keep moving for a second or so after you let go of the movement key just drives me up the wall. I find it harder to build with that thing than with the jetpack or just on foot.

[mortal ginkgo]

Funny enough this game could use endless milestones as DLC to have upgrades.

[hard ivy]

I'm here to have fun, not torture myself by repeatedly falling out of the sky when trying to build

[keen hawk]

my current production of encased beams is at net +0.125/min
someone send help

[zenith pecan]

You actually fall out of the sky?

[frail sleet]

With the hoverpack, all of the time yes 😛

[zenith pecan]

It doesn't take me long to throw up a hover framework and stay airborne when building stupid shit.

[frail sleet]

setting up a hover framework for numerous square kilometers or tall stuff is a huge pain in the butt though

hours of building stuff just to delete it after

[hard ivy]

The range isn't long enough to place a pole precisely at max distance. You have to eyeball it from half distance

[zenith pecan]

Hours? what the hell are you doing, hand making concrete? just zoop some walls/foundations and toss in temp power, takes a minute or two, not hours.

[frail sleet]

My powerplant is 4km long and 2km wide

with too much verticality for a single power pole to let a hoverpack reach

[zenith pecan]

For just a power plant, that would cover 40% of the map?

[frail sleet]

it would literally be 100k foundations to make a good temp power grid coverage

[warped pawn]

im gonna build my base in the part where theres no nodes around that like near the mid map, is that a good location?

i can provide an ss if need be

[frail sleet]

not 40%, but a lot

[zenith pecan]

Thought my power plant was bad enough with a quartet of 600+ metre towers.

[frail sleet]

https://i.imgur.com/BLGBwNz.png it's about 60% done, i think

[warped pawn]

what the fuck

[zenith pecan]

I wouldn't mind seeing the setup 😛 , but the map itself is like 7km by 6km , yeah not 40% I had the numbers wrong in my head.

[frail sleet]

Red forest in the middle has nasty wildlife

crater lakes is one of my fav places.

[warped pawn]

how elevated is it?

[frail sleet]

with hoverpack i basically spent half of my life fighting against it and limping back to power poles even on my regular play 😄 😄

[frail sleet]

it's like 200m up i think, most of it

[zenith pecan]

That is a huge doce of repitition, how the hell do you use that much space for power, uranium doesn't offer enough unless you downclock loads of nukes and there just isn't the oil.

[frail sleet]

it's a 1.1tw gross ficsonium plant with particle accelerators clocked down to <25% (saves 100gw)

[ivory condor]

Cool

[zenith pecan]

1.1tw is a familliar number 😄 , I have that generated in the blue crater but that place is really tall.

[frail sleet]

Oh yeah this is basically 2d layout for style

2.5D

[hard ivy]

Are you sure it saves that much? 25% clock speed is only 1.5625 times less power consumption per item than 100% (36% less)

[zenith pecan]

Here's mine, seen from a couple of biomes over #screenshots message

[fluid sapphire]

can i clock a machine to make a number of parts with 4 decimals, like 10.9375? i see that the number in the brackets gets rounded to 3 digits, is it rounded just for display purposes or will it actually produce a number of items rounded to 3 decimals?

[frail sleet]

That figure was actually from full world build, sorry. The particle accelerators eat 268GW at 250%, ~200 GW at 100% or ~119GW at 20%. I just generalised that in my head to "around 100gw", but yeah it's not quite that much if comparing to 100%. When looking at 250%, it is more.

[hard ivy]

Clock speed is accurate up to 4 decimal places, yes

[fluid sapphire]

thanks, calculating the ratio in % with a calculator seems to confirm

the kind of stuff that happens when i use 32 constructors instead of 14 ehhehhheh

[zenith pecan]

Vertical is also my choice for the mines, these are a bitch to setup though due to the shoddy vertical splitter/merger implementation but take the design for what you will: #screenshots message

[frail sleet]

🔥 dance music 😄

[zenith pecan]

The three floating foundations are only there for hover pack poer 🤣

[warped pawn]

how should i travel the map? i dont think cannons would be good since i need to power them to launch back

[frail sleet]

You can build a car

[warped pawn]

your so right, but which one

[frail sleet]

explorer (keep in mind that you can zoop 4m ramps to climb stuff in vehicles, i've even driven an explorer out of the stinger hole in grassy fields)

[zenith pecan]

I am considering running 4 metre foundations down the walls of those mines, which will give them a cross shaped footprint, but make them look more supported.

[warped pawn]

i plan to go directly to the desert with no detours

thx for the foundation tip

anyone know what that is in #screenshots

[frail sleet]

uranium

[warped pawn]

can i die to it or does it just get me low?

[frail sleet]

can die

[warped pawn]

oh that sucks, i assume i cant carry it either

[frail sleet]

not yet

[hard ivy]

It'll kill you very quickly if you pick it up or stand right on top of it, but if there's a slug or something nearby, you can usually grab it before you die. Then run away and heal

[warped pawn]

SO. i went to the area that seemed VERY empty. turns out it was red bamboo forest

i hate myself

any base area reccomendations?

[frail sleet]

crater lakes

[warped pawn]

any size reccomendation?

[hard ivy]

Make everything fast enough so you don't have to wait for stuff to produce

[warped pawn]

base not factory

just for yk looks

[hard ivy]

Can't say I've ever built anything that wasn't a factory

[warped pawn]

god i found the crater but theres sam in the middle

[hard ivy]

There's more craters

[warped pawn]

too small for my skyscraper

are the things in #screenshots destroyable

ive seen people say they arent but maybeits a diff one

[sharp sentinel]

Love the first thing I saw clicking into screenshots is someone's factory and I was like 'Dang, this man is savage.'

[fluid sapphire]

yes, you need explosives

[warped pawn]

thank god

[hard ivy]

You'll have to try. Some similar looking things can't but idk if they're these or different ones

But yes, explosives are the way to go

Make sure you hit the base, not the middle or top

[warped pawn]

okays

im making a circle base lmao

i must

the sam is speaking to me wtff

[sharp sentinel]

Time to bite the bullet and build a geothermal. Driving me crazy there's untapped power sitting right there.

[south sinew]

honestly I thought geothermals are a bit disappointing, considering how late they come in the game, they don't offer much power, barely worth building

[sharp sentinel]

It's a trade off for the fact they require no effort at all aside from building it. Most other sources require some input.

But I definitely understand the feeling they're underwhelming.

[south sinew]

yeah, but they're also super spread out and take a lot of effort to build any substantial quantity

[sharp sentinel]

I wonder if most of them are near wrecks that require powering...

[south sinew]

although they do occur earlier than I thought, you could get them in Tier 5 rather than Tier 7

[sharp sentinel]

Sucks that Electrode Mother Board uses specifically petroleum coke. If it was just coal I'd be in business.

[maiden notch]

I am playing once again!

but with a friend this time around

[south sinew]

I dunno, seems like oil to turn into petroleum coke is a lot more available than coal which you really want to be putting into steel

[craggy mica]

My friend is too broke for satisfactory 💔

[shut lava]

Buy it for them

[craggy mica]

RM 61.80 even at a discount 💔🥀

[fossil coral]

Before you get delivery things (vehicles or trains) do you just strap belts long distance like factorio? Or just make stuff at each resource node

[shut lava]

Soo you and your friend are broke

[warped pawn]

resource node

early game nothing rlly matters

[fossil coral]

Ya fair Im just starting to work on space elevator and tier 2 stuff

Found a hard drive and got cast screws though

[craggy mica]

Still studying 😭

So yeah we broke

[fossil coral]

How long until I get a weapon that's better than the cattle prod? Or is that in research

[shut lava]

That sucks

[leaden turret]

!wikisearch xenobasher

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=xenobasher

[craggy mica]

MAM got a nail gun right

[leaden turret]

!wikisearch Xeno-Basher