satisfactory

[mortal ginkgo]

I am not even at Oil yet. I still got things to do kek

[sullen gull]

https://tenor.com/view/keep-secret-secret-pas-un-mot-stand-by-me-no-word-gif-21201403

[mortal ginkgo]

#screenshots message

😊

[sullen gull]

Yeah, I've seen some of your builds lol, Envious for sure!

[zenith pecan]

Erk, well umm, looks like I'll be feeding some refineries with exclusively wastewater, and drawing off the waste from the end group of refineries 🤣 , otherwise I'd have 420 refineries producing 31300 copper ingots at the cost of 11250 copper ore, yeah I'm going to add some other crap too 😄

[reef forge]

the plan for 300 packaged turbofuel and 10 computers a minute has made good progress

[mortal ginkgo]

its way too silly big for its own good but thank you ❤️

[sullen gull]

Lol, yeah, I am only up to 5,876.67/min lol. But that's purely just for sheets, casings, and heatsinks.

[sullen gull]

Lol, almost want to come hire you to come help with my alu plant and lighting 🤣

[zenith pecan]

I do need other materials such as concrete as well so I'll start calculations for that setup.

[sullen gull]

I am also running your Engine.ini tweaks fyi @mortal ginkgo

[sullen gull]

What all are you making there ooc?

[zenith pecan]

But this is going to be one giant interdependant mess.

[mortal ginkgo]

"Say no more Bro, 50x20m foundation pillars coming through, coz pillars are cool yo. Oh and I need 395830459830498539045 amount of signal components. Yes."

[mortal ginkgo]

Keep in mind that I yoinked them from reddit and might have some silly stuff going on or just performance hits etc.

[sullen gull]

Yeah, But, in doing that, it was also pointed out that, this WHOLE time I have been playing, my monitors were locked at 60hz 🤦‍♂️

Setting the max of 165hz was an amazing game changer for sure lol

[mortal ginkgo]

I kek at your hz issue. Kek.

[zenith pecan]

I've accounted for using 1680 wastewater (one row of refineries feeding three pipes) I still need to find use for another 6720, though I can burn a lot by having some of the bauxite processors taking up exclusively waste with no loop.

[sullen gull]

I am noticing some new flickering issues though. With walls flickering and showing what's behind them. Just noticed it today though .

[sullen gull]

So long as you're only pumping the difference between fresh and waste, you should be able to use all of it.

[abstract heron]

i am debating putting my 515,000MW power of RF into my main power?

[sullen gull]

https://tenor.com/view/doja-cat-star-wars-gif-25078126

[mortal ginkgo]

Delete the lumen stuff and see if it fixes itself, it not, issue is somewhere else.

I am not exactly sure if Lumen would cause that too. I mean, flickering lights? Sure. But walls come and go? Don't think so but hey.

[zenith pecan]

I've had closed loops implode far too often.

[abstract heron]

@zenith pecan

[zenith pecan]

Otherwise I'd just run that.

[trim vine]

Imagine building enough smelters for a 1200 line of ore, or, you drop a BP and boom, good to go

[zenith pecan]

Looking at the colossal scale of the problem, I massively underestimated just how much wastewater I'll be dealing with, I'm going to have to try looping it.

[radiant raptor]

Hey is it normal that my conveyor highway blueprints attaches themselves but for only like 5 meters ?

[scarlet lake]

how do you make custom colors again?

[radiant raptor]

Bruh

[scarlet lake]

like really bright

[radiant raptor]

-1000 on the Color

It’ll go bright

[pliant prawn]

WOOT!! First time ever automating RCUs! I might actually get past phase 4 for once lmao

[scarlet lake]

how?

[sullen gull]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ipg3CIRP7Ns

[radiant raptor]

Go in any swatches there’s numbers on the left

Of the 3 colors

[scarlet lake]

gotcha

[reef forge]

i think with the turbofuel i'll be making, i can get 8000mw of power and still have 60 packaged turbofuel per minute

[radiant raptor]

Can someone tell me why my belt blueprints only go for 5 meters bertween each ?

[tribal elk]

i'm told rocket fuel is better

[reef forge]

my blueprints just straight up dont work

[radiant raptor]

Bruh

[reef forge]

im still in phase 3

[tribal elk]

i see

[reef forge]

i dont think i can even get rocket fuel

[tribal elk]

ionized fuel however isnt, apparently

[sullen gull]

Research under Sulfur tree in the MAM

But need Aluminum iirc.

But, if you explored a bunch for hard drives, you find a lot of materials laying around them if you wanted to research it 'early'

[reef forge]

yeah

[abstract heron]

i might just add into my main power and then spirecoast i can delete it and turn it into something else later in game

[reef forge]

i'll just wait until i unlock aluminum production

[unkempt blade]

If you're just using it for jetpacks that's probably a lot more than you'll need. You might want an overflow into more generators

[zenith pecan]

I'm sorry I kind of lost the thread, I've been puzzling out this potential monstrosity.

[reef forge]

im also planning on using it for truck stations because i like trucks

[abstract heron]

so should i add my 515,000MW or 520,000MW at best Powerplant into my main world grid

[sullen gull]

Also note, that if you use any of the 'premade' swatches, and change them later, it will change everything you used that swatch on. If you don't want that, just use the 'Custom Swatch'

And be sure to save your colours and such you like as presets.

[scarlet lake]

yeah

[sullen gull]

Tbf, turbo fuel is horried for jetpacks. I'd stick with liquid Bio until you get RF

For the jetpack that is.

[latent prawn]

i kinda feel like even rf isn't very good in the jetpack

if you get used to the burn time of lbf, everything but ion feels like a step down

[reef forge]

what so bad about jetpack turbofuel

[sullen gull]

I mean, it's got a shorter burn time and doesn't last as long as LB, but it's still way better than TF imo which doesn't last for crap

[sullen gull]

IMO TF just burns way to fast

[reef forge]

ah

[white dawn]

IMO TF has a lot more longevity than many folks give it credit for; over short-to-mid bursty-float ranges, Turbofuel's just fine

[reef forge]

so is there any upside to turbofuel or what

[sullen gull]

But, I do a lot of 'hovering' with my jetpack, crossing valleys and such ...

[latent prawn]

yeah, you kinda end up with a lot of 'oh crud' moments high in the air

[unkempt blade]

I was thinking it was just outright better than normal packaged fuel but I might be misremembering

[white dawn]

When I'm at that stage of the game I tend to keep a stack of both LBF and TF around for jetpacking, and switch as the situation warrants

I think they're both quite good at that stage, but for slightly different use-cases

[hard ivy]

Imo, liquid biofuel is the best general use jetpack fuel

[sullen gull]

TF is great for a 'larger' boost

[white dawn]

TF is excellent for building vertical factories, pre-hoverpack

[sullen gull]

I agree. Though, since i have a lot of RF on hand now, I have been using that more and more. and just learning to manage it.

[latent prawn]

i've always been a big fan of lbf as jetpack fuel, but i gotta say that ion fuel really ends up being nice

[white dawn]

It's extremely late game, but Ionized Fuel is actually S-Tier for sure

Lasts for ages and has incredible immediate thrust

[sullen gull]

See, this is where I find LB better for. MUCH better control imo

[white dawn]

Yeah, the control is certainly nice. I'm quite fond of LBF as well. :D

[sullen gull]

But again, that thrust can come to bite you in the butt if you're trying to be precise lol

[latent prawn]

my only qualm with it is the wierd float behavior you get at times with it

[white dawn]

I didn't end up having any of those moments, but perhaps I've already accepted my skill shortcomings. :D

[unkempt blade]

I just slide-jump off the cliff and flutter the jetpack trigger unless I need to go straight up so control usually isn't a huge concern

[hard ivy]

I use LBF for building even after I unlock the hoverpack

[sullen gull]

Same tbf lol. Hoverpack is too slooooow lol

[hard ivy]

My main issue with the Hoverpack is the range actually. Like 3x too small for me

[sullen gull]

LOL, I know what you mean, it kills me all the random poles I throw around just to maintain range 🤣

[hard ivy]

The speed is fine for building, but yeah, it's slow if I want to move across half the factory

[mortal ginkgo]

How about Towers?

[hard ivy]

They don't have longer Hoverpack range

[mortal ginkgo]

oh dear

[sullen gull]

I mean, better for the extra height, but just get in the way

[sullen gull]

Extended slightly due to height of them in my experience.

[atomic notch]

just include power in ur foundation blueprints

[mortal ginkgo]

well wouldnt they need to keep linking foundations?

[hard ivy]

If AC connected power poles, I absolutely will

[sullen gull]

I never personally make foundation BPs... mainly due to reconfigure so much on my layouts. Then run power through them later.

[hard ivy]

Until then, it's more effort than it's worth I think

Especially because my foundation platforms can contain several thousand

[sullen gull]

I run all my power through the foundation everywhere possible, so, eventually it works out... just not so much DURING the building lol

Btw, when you all are restarting the game due to lag, invisible items, etc, are you quitting to desktop? or just the menu?

[atomic notch]

i never have to do that lol

[unkempt blade]

I turn flying on for some of the factory decoration stuff. It's annoying to manage hoverpack range while being far away to see what I built

[sullen gull]

I used to, but don't want to touch AGS for this save only because I am wanting the achievements this go-around.

[unkempt blade]

don't really need it for basic factory/logistics but the outside of the factory needs a little more space to see

[atomic notch]

usually if i go too far back stuff stops rendering

[sullen gull]

Also, I know I was running at the default FOV for a long while. Until I was informed I needed to up it do to my screen size and viewing distance. Made a huge improvement. Currently at 118 FOV

[mortal ginkgo]

My problem isn't rendering but the Build/Color Menu starts to freeze game for too much after a while. Then game just crashes if I want to delete a detailed BP

So I have to reopen the game after like 6 hours

must be a memory leak somewhere imo

[sullen gull]

That's when I notice it.. when placing/deleting BP's and it starts to stutter more and more in between.

[mortal ginkgo]

yep, the warning sign is the menu opening tho'

[sullen gull]

Ahhh. gotcha

[mortal ginkgo]

Doggo brought me... 7 rotors.

Doggo needs to do better.

[copper raft]

#screenshots will this take biproduct water first? (instant scrap blenders) takes water back in through junction and takes 10 water/min from overhead pipe. I think it should work because of pipe junction priorities but im not sure

[mortal ginkgo]

you asked this in everywhere but #1038092680493801533 😛

[copper raft]

forgot about that thread, thanks

[mortal ginkgo]

from what I heard the bottom pipe gets priority, I dunno about side feeding tho'. Still better to ask.

[copper raft]

bottom pipe is output

[sudden flint]

Waiting for a manifold to fill should be considered a valid torture method

[mortal ginkgo]

I know its not really a good answer but test it until someone responds properly

[mortal ginkgo]

manually filling up a manifold is good too 😛

[sullen gull]

This is usually how I have been doing it and good luck thus far.

[scarlet lake]

Slight miscalculation - I made the cube too big. Apparently being able to fit 20 fuel generators in a row and making that into a cube means that the ground floor would be able to fit 20 * 20 fuel generators, which equals to 400 fuel generators. On one floor of the cube.

time to downsize

I now need to make the cube 8 * 8 * 8

but I also want batteries in it, so 10 * 10 * 10 fuel generators will do

[modest solstice]

howdy chat

how goes it

[scarlet lake]

CUBE

[modest solstice]

yes

[elder apex]

ADA does not understand one of the words you used - 'downsize'

[modest solstice]

Removing already functional production for reasons other than further upgrades is inefficent and is punishable by sector reassignment. FICSIT HR recommends you reconsider your decision.

[scarlet lake]

I know... I wanted the build to be large and looming over the mushroom bay... sadly I will not be able to support 8000 fuel generators

[scarlet lake]

it is not already functional

[pliant prawn]

TURBO MOTO! man its been a productive weekend

[elder apex]

are these planned generators already slated to be overclocked? If not, doing that would cut the number needing to be deployed

[scarlet lake]

so I'm downsizing to 1000 fuel generators

actually wait

10 * 10 fuel generators on the base

but each fuel generator is 4m * 7

[dusky relic]

Is there a reason to use the bolted frame recipe?

[scarlet lake]

if you really like screws

[pliant prawn]

alts are kind of all situational. I like bolted because its just easier

[hard ivy]

How is it easier than steeled lamo

[scarlet lake]

so only 10 * 10 * 6 which is still 600 fuel gens

[pliant prawn]

you mean stitched?

[hard ivy]

They asked about frames, so steeled

[dusky relic]

But its less items/min per iron

[pliant prawn]

oh lol I was thinking RIPs haha

[scarlet lake]

in my household screws are forbidden

[hard ivy]

But yes, the Sam applies to bolted and stitched. Neither of them make any sense to me

[pliant prawn]

I like both. My current is all bolted ironically. after cast screws it made more sense to me

[hard ivy]

They're faster but they're so expensive that overall they require more space on top of being expensive

[pliant prawn]

space is hardly an issue haha

[elder apex]

if you are trying to fit things onto a blueprint, space is definitely an issue

[hard ivy]

Stitched + steeled is the smallest when only considering iron-only frames

[pliant prawn]

it doesnt have to all fit in the same BP lol

[hard ivy]

Bolted + bolted is the largest lol

[elder apex]

if you use multiple blueprints then you have the hassle of having to connect all the logistics between them, thus devaluing the blueprint(s) somewhat. Everything is a trade-off

[hard ivy]

No, actually stitched + default might be slightly larger

[pliant prawn]

thats so inconsequential I dont count it

[elder apex]

that is perfectly fine, just trying to point out that others might not share your disregard for size considerations and the reasons why they might not.

[hollow brook]

Random thing that happened, I was ganged up on by three alpha stingers that just spawned out of nowhere. I won the fight by flying around in the parachute while they just kept leaping on eachother and hurting eachother, then just bashing the last one to death.

[hard ivy]

Unless bolted + bolted has some perfect ratios that other recipes don't, it still isn't good for blueprints. it has a larger average footprint than stitched + steeled

[pliant prawn]

that was my whole point in the begining. All the Alts are situational. Its anyones choice from there

[zenith pecan]

Wow, with the division of my wastewater & fresh water, two thirds of the refineries will run on wastewater alone 🤣 , should make bauxite processing bulletproof.

[modern jungle]

how do I unlock the bauxite tech tree? I have bauxite yet the tech tree isn't unlocked

[shell sluice]

just progress more

its just locked behind other stuff

[modern jungle]

what other stuff? I'm on phase 2 rn

[shell sluice]

phase 4

[modern jungle]

fuel-powered generators produce 250 MW?!

[dusky relic]

yes

[modern jungle]

I'm not gonna have to worry about power ever again

[scarlet lake]

uh

[elder apex]

famous last words

[scarlet lake]

yes you will

[fast lotus]

just wait until you make ficsonium rods

or, i guess just dont make it.. that would work

[modern jungle]

nah, I will just keep making generators

[fast lotus]

how much power yall currently have in your worlds

[modern jungle]

I have 2900MW rn

[fast lotus]

Noice

From coal?

[scarlet lake]

#screenshots

[fiery garden]

crude oil -> heavy oil residue -> diluted fuel -> i dunno man, i just build refineries all day for weeks so i forgot

[fast lotus]

lulz

[modern jungle]

that's... a lot

[scarlet lake]

I'm filling the entire cube with batteries and fuel generators

[fast lotus]

where is this? like on the map

[fiery garden]

thats not a lot

[scarlet lake]

mushroom bay

[latent prawn]

I have 3 gw of coal and 120gw of rocket fuel along with a couple of apa's and some geotherm adding noise to the graphs 😛

[fast lotus]

idk where that is, like up down right left?

[scarlet lake]

totalling 482 fuel gens with 432 being powered by rocket fuel and 50 being powered with turbo fuel

[fast lotus]

3gw of coal????? how??

[forest osprey]

i havnt played since release. But as soon i open the game, it starts to load then crashes?

Uninstalled, etc. ANy tips?

[latent prawn]

i think we call that blue crater

[scarlet lake]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

I like mushroom bay more

[fast lotus]

ahh blue crater, is this the place with 2 pure + 1 normal + 1 impure node

[latent prawn]

16 generators at 250% takes 600 coal and 1800 water and makes 16 x 75mw x 250% = 3gw

[fast lotus]

that's a lot of power shards

like 48, damn

[latent prawn]

good thing i've made a few crates full

[fast lotus]

I guess its not too bad, I havent yet unlocked the recipe to generate more

[fiery garden]

https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/553550313533997057/1378558934335619204

[fast lotus]

lol nice

[latent prawn]

in all seriousness, there's tons of slugs on the map and very simple to sloop a constructor to double the yield from slugs. 48 shards is a few minutes worth of slug hunting

[fast lotus]

goddamn, this is all from residual fuel?

[fiery garden]

no, heavy oil residue alt

[latent prawn]

probably dilluted fuel

[fiery garden]

with diluted fuel and recycled rubber/plastic

[fast lotus]

yea I meant converting heavy oil to residual fuel or whatever the name is. ahh is diluted fuel an alternate recipe

[fiery garden]

those other train stations on the right are for aluminum, not related to the rubber/plastic/generators

[scarlet lake]

482 fuel generators * 250 MW = 120500 MW * 1/1000 = 120.5 GW

[fast lotus]

damn

im only at like 10k MW lol

[fiery garden]

this game takes forever lol
cancel your plans for the next few years

[scarlet lake]

still 10 GW is pretty good

just so happens my max consumption rn is 11-12 GW

[fast lotus]

by the way, I kinda came here to ask, has someone drawn on the map for a good path for the trains? Im having a really hard time figuring how to make trains connect all my shit together

[shell sluice]

i think just dont build directly on the ground, put up pillars?

[fast lotus]

scary

ahh fair, thats what ive been doing but i keep destroying it because it ends up looking like shit

[scarlet lake]

I've got a pillar blueprint which allows me to use auto-connect and train wherever I want

I call it the tactical power pole

[fast lotus]

damn, nice. I need to figure out a good design then

[scarlet lake]

#screenshots

I just noticed its asymmetric

🤮

[fast lotus]

is this the experimental version? damn thats such a sick idea

to have the hypertube exit

[scarlet lake]

oh yeah

I also have it on a priority switch so if I need it off I can remotely turn it off

[fast lotus]

having multiple entrances and exits will also ensure really high speed

wow amazing, im gonna steal that idea hahah

[prisma forge]

I just hooked up my first fuel powerplant of this save. Phew!

#screenshots message

[scarlet lake]

solid beginner fuel build

It'll hold for a couple phases

[prisma forge]

yeah I definitely wouldn't manage to hold with only two coal powerplants lol

[scarlet lake]

I have to revamp my copper sheets build from phase 1 because my mega builds have drained the 60 copper sheets p/m dry even with the storage bin

[prisma forge]

I had to ditch my first save with over 250 hours so I can make a new one where I do things correctly. Still visit the old save from time to time tho.

[scarlet lake]

I've had to do that multiple times

I've done that 6 times now

80h in the first one 29h in the second 12h in the third 98h in the fourth 90h in the fifth 73h in the sixth

I now have 170h in my most recent one

[prisma forge]

I've done it twice now lol

First with 251h, second with 30h and now the third one with 48h

[dusky relic]

Rhye

Please fix your power :(

[prisma forge]

I just hooked up an oil powerplant, I got like 2kMW more from that

[sullen gull]

Lol, whaaat, don't like living on the edge? 😏

[prisma forge]

I'm edging my power

[dusky relic]

Only in cyberpunk edgerunners.

[sullen gull]

https://tenor.com/view/uhhhhh-gif-18728531

goes back to trying to break stuff in the game.

[dusky relic]

https://media1.tenor.com/m/6qfA5rWOM0YAAAAd/you-fell-over-the-edge-punk-cyberpunk.gif

[leaden ether]

Nothing like finding a good recommended guide for something and following the link to find "Site is disabled" 😦

[sullen gull]

Way Back Machine! 😏

[prisma forge]

idk why but there's something so charming about my 144 fuel generators consuming rocket fuel

[peak wasp]

I wonder how the game handles far-away factories.

Like, is it still doing "This conveyor belt is moving items on it at ten meters a second" or is it basically simplifying the factory into much more simple equations?

Like, is it still thinking about all of the ore on the conveyor belt that a miner is outputting, or is it just going "Miner: 240 ore out. Five smelters: 240 ore input. Done."

[zenith pecan]

I'm still bending and twisting pipes, all hail the colossal bauxite refinery!

[scarlet lake]

I think the main difference is that it loads only the ratios and not the animations

because at a certain distance all animations pause

[summer hemlock]

Have they fixed that bug in experimental yet where splitters put directly on conveyor lifts coming out of floor holes have to be rebuilt when placed as a blueprint

[latent prawn]

it definitely doesn't render far away things, which is often the bulk of the factory compute, but i'm not sure if the game also downsamples factory ticks into less frequent batches

[noble oasis]

anyone know why images arent allowed in comments on the satisfactory reditt?

[latent prawn]

moderators don't want to have to clean up inappropriate content

[peak wasp]

I also wonder how intensive the factory computations are, come to think of it. I mean, you could run 1000 Apollo 11 missions on an NES.

Is a factory in this game really so intensive on a CPU?

[latent prawn]

as you keep building, you definitely notice a degradation in performance

[noble oasis]

do people actually post innappropriate content on the satisfactory reddit under posts? i thought this community was extremely nice and wouldnt do stuff like that

[latent prawn]

factory games are not cheap for systems to run

[noble oasis]

or atleast did they used to do that?

[leaden ether]

Thanks, that worked 🙂

[latent prawn]

dude, spam and trolls are ever-present

[sullen gull]

Schweet

[noble oasis]

oh boy do i know that. my factory is so insane that i go from 120+fps when away from my factory to just 30 fps when in the middle of it

[latent prawn]

wait an hour or two and i'm sure you'll see someone come into this chat offering bitcoin trading lessons or penile enlargement pills or some such, lol

[noble oasis]

lol....totally not interested in those enlargement pills. totally not

[fast lotus]

Lol damn. Mine has 100h in my first and 70 hrs in my second rn

[sullen gull]

Really? I haven't noticed any trolls or anything yet... apart from the usual's, but still 😏

[zenith pecan]

If ever a stackable ceiling pipe support was a cool thing, here's my approach on achieving it in spite of one not existing like the belts setup #streams-and-videos message 😄 , hanging pipe stacks FTW!

[noble oasis]

im on 110 hrs on my current save and had like 105 on a previous save

[sullen gull]

Dude, aren't you on 1.1?

[zenith pecan]

I switch when I wish to experiment.

[sullen gull]

Ahh

[scarlet lake]

pipe support not conveyor support

[sullen gull]

I was just going to say, I literally just did this same thing earlier, but much easier with 1.1 and z nudge

[sullen gull]

I know

[scarlet lake]

oh you were talking about nudging mb

[zenith pecan]

Ahh yeah the Znudge will eliminate the foundation for sure, I forgot about that.

[sullen gull]

Yeah, place the first, H the second just in front of the first, 1m nudge back, 2m down, boom

[leaden ether]

Yeah I used a 3x3 stack of pipe holders I already had as a blueprint, then deleted the ones I didn't use But of course every single time thinking (Why aren't these in the gam?!?!?)

[zenith pecan]

1.1 making the method obsolete tbh is actually a good thing 🙂 , it removes a step.

[sullen gull]

BUT, not knocking btw, I was just confused because i thought you were on 1.1 lol

[zenith pecan]

Not a problem, I switch back and forth simply because 1.1 seems to still hard crash on exit.

[sullen gull]

Yeah, does it to me every time. I just send and close lol. The additions are too much of a QOL for me to want to switch back 🤣

So far it hasn't seemed to mess up anything in this save though, which is good.

[zenith pecan]

I'm used to some lack of QOL, I built my first truly immense facility with NO ZOOP or blueprints for that matter, and it was 888 turbofuel generators, the place took me three weeks to build 🤣

[sullen gull]

Lol, not as big, but similar with only 400 gens, but yeah, I feel ya 😏

Oh, wait, No ZOOP or Bp ... lol never mind ... siiiiike

[zenith pecan]

Update 3, in the old spire coast back when it was all just 2 feet of water and the giant shroom rocks.

[sullen gull]

Ahh nice. I didn't start towards the end of U8

[zenith pecan]

Here it is, though shown just after concrete was introduced and I replaced thousands of ficsit foundations, but still old spire coast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvTc93T8-G4

[sullen gull]

But, oddly enough, even when I did use things like Inifinite Zoop/nudge mods, I still tried to remain to vanilla as bext I could. Literally only thing I wanted IZ for was Z nudge lol

[peak wasp]

Wouldn't that be more of a gpu thing though?

I'm talking more about the computing of like "This machine makes x amount of things per minute"

[zenith pecan]

No floor markings either haha.

[sullen gull]

Hah, sure has come a long way since eh?

[peak wasp]

I wonder if the game is handing as simply as "This machine make x amount of thing per minute" or if, due to game design shenanigans, it has to be a lot more complicated

[zenith pecan]

Tell me about it, now I spend so much time with floor markings and trying to make stuff look cool.

[sullen gull]

I'm upset that the markings don't work on some of the foundation types..

[zenith pecan]

This refinery design is hilarious, like 64% of the refineries are feed exclusively by wastewater, no loops needed.

[zenith pecan]

The half foundations, I wish I could dual-layer the floor art tbh, having numbers overlayed instead of replacing borders, or have coloured lines leading to specific places without overwriting others.

[sullen gull]

Yeeeeees... 100%. Did you suggest it? I'll upvote that for sure lol

[zenith pecan]

I need to recreate my QA credentials, I fired virgin media ages ago, which meant that mailbox got closed, for some reason I couldn't change the email on the QA so I deleted the old account, I didn't think about it since, oops!

Hmm, I might have to shove all these bauxte belts over eight metres, 20 of them!.

Oh wait, I can lower them by 2 metres instead.

[sullen gull]

I just saw this one on the side after watching yours ... Holy .... just, wow: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UIDlQA_WWU

@zenith pecan

Is that person in here? Because if so, Bravo .... dayum

[zenith pecan]

Must be modded, did you see the upside down nuke plants 😄

I gotta admit it does look cool though.

Hang on a minute, some of the nuke plants are bigger?

[sullen gull]

This is the one that was showcased in the stream before last

[boreal musk]

you can check their description for what mods they use

[sullen gull]

I didn't notice, when are those?

[zenith pecan]

Sec, grabbing timestamp.

[dense violet]

that just sounds like a normal sloppy electrode set up?

[zenith pecan]

https://youtu.be/7UIDlQA_WWU?t=730 look at the structure straight ahead, upside down nukes.

[zenith pecan]

Yeah, the challenge has been that it is processing like all of the bauxite.

[dense violet]

still sounds normal xD

[sullen gull]

Oh, haha, hadn't made it that far..

[dense violet]

just do it in groups of 600 or 1200 bauxite, 2/3 of the machines run on waste

[zenith pecan]

Did that by default after using mk5 belts to move it 600 at a time.

[boreal musk]

my fav alu setup, cuz it works well with all node purity

[dense violet]

yeah I just can't imagine doing it any other way honestly

[sullen gull]

Lack of imagination imo.

[leaden ether]

Truly amazing for sure, and yeah, lots of mods, including a build underground mod it looks like.

Unless he found a way of traversing below the land layer without one

I have seen such a mod though.

[sullen gull]

The mods are on the description, only like 4/5

[sullen gull]

I think that's in a cave

[leaden ether]

THe entire area seems WAY too large to be a cave though.

He doesn't list it as a mod he used though...

[sullen gull]

Well, there is no 'terrain' under the map.

[zenith pecan]

I'm always building underground, no mod is needed.

[sullen gull]

There are some pretty decent sized caverns, wonder where that is.

Also the work.of three people it seems

[leaden ether]

Ah, okay. Yeah I've seen some pictured of other underground builds, but you kind of need to make a roof or it doesn't look that great (Which that guy did I'm assuming)

ALso turn off the fog -.-

[sullen gull]

If you look, there is ground under those buildings 😏

[zenith pecan]

You're not wrong about enclosing underground builds, it looks bad down there 😄 , no mod for fog though, r.fog 0 handles that in the console.

[leaden ether]

Oh speaking of underground, I'm assuming that drones probably don't navigateinto/out of caves? Or should I give it a try?

[sullen gull]

They clip through the terrain

[zenith pecan]

They fly through the terrain, same as when launched from under the map.

[leaden ether]

He IS using the decorations mod which gives you access to a lot (most?) of the games assets for your own placement use, so he would have recreated what looks like ground by hand

[zenith pecan]

Good point, I don't know the capabilities of most mods, I've never used them due to the potential for a bricked save when a mod is deprecated.

[sullen gull]

Dunno, very well could be

[sullen gull]

Same

[leaden ether]

From reading the videos desc, this seems like the kind of build that you max out what you have available at the time, then when another version comes out you just start all over again....

I go through that a lot with Minecraft... 🙂

[sullen gull]

I wanted to like minecraft. I just couldn't get past the graphics sadly 😒

[leaden ether]

TBH THe pixellated Graphics actually hurt my eyes. Or rather the high level of "noise" just irritates my sight. So I use mods to change them to something a lot more pleasing.

[sullen gull]

I had read that there were mods to make them better, I just never made it that far. Maybe should give it another go around if/when I get some burnout from this 😏

[zenith pecan]

I'm taking my time with construction, innervating the map with logistics tunnels and hauling everything from certain resources would cause me epic burnout otherwise.

[sullen gull]

Heh, with racking 2,845 hours since August, I'm showing no signs as of yet 🤣

[leaden ether]

I'm just starting to plan another factory and one thing I am a little burned out on is finding out I need even more of thing X and realizing I'll have to make it on site. (I.e. Encased Industrial Beams) I'm leaning more and more on my next complete build, picking out the few 10?15? mid level items that are the most commonly used in everything else and making smaller higher volume factories for these mid level items maybe. (Course would increase transportation needs a lot as well)

[sullen gull]

Perhaps it's because I never seem to go high volume (this Alu plant is my first REAL mega project probably) I just don't seem to care. Plan out what I am trying to make, then just look at what I need for it and scout the loc with everything that's near. Though, 'near' for me could be a good few kilometers lol, idc. 🤣

[cyan garnet]

It’s one of the main meta decisions you have to make. More work building factories? Or more work building logistics?

I tend to go somewhere in the middle. I like having my rail network moving ingots, coal, RSAM, quartz, concrete, etc. and then make everything i need inline from that on-site

[latent prawn]

i think past a certain production level, certain economies of scale and groupings of items become noticeable

[cyan garnet]

I don’t mind making RIPs or EIBs or HMFs as part of larger production at this point

Yeah, that’s fair. In the more complex chains tho it would be a pretty big challenge to manage logistics for all those intermediary parts that are relatively easy to just make inline

Three train stations vs two dozen or whatever

Or a billion drones 😊

[latent prawn]

for instance. RIPs are only really used in mod frames if you discount the expensive base oscillator recipe and know that smart plating is a special case. as such, you only make rips for mod frames and make enough + a bit extra to hit your mf production target

similarly, EIB's can be made in your HMF factory, you have a choice with circuit boards whether to make them with computers, hsc's or as a standalone feeder factory for both

[leaden ether]

Drones are awesome for low volume/high tier items. I use those more than anything atm 😄 But mainly because the way I did my factories, that's all I really have to transport. Next time Maybe I'll go for mid tier factories separate from the all in ones. High volume mid tier then smaller higher end factories and more train transport.

I mean I have some trains now but if you saw my flow chart it's only to have trains, my current builds really don't need them at all. Everything could be droned easily.

Kind of makes me sad 😄

[cyan garnet]

My first playthrough was Oops! All Drones! Cuz I hadn’t really figured trains out yet

[latent prawn]

my playstyle has also evolved. I'm not looking to beat the game in a weekend or even a week. Its ok for me to take 1000+ hours to build what i wish to build. As such, often i'll set up a small build for a component that i'll tear down later when i need to start producing things at a large volume

[sullen gull]

sigh .. sometimes I enjoy dieing ... ADA can say some funny stuff sometimes.

LMFAO... and just did it again.. came in too hot for a landing ... Maybe I should stop advocating the awesomeness of HT cannons 🤣

[pliant prawn]

For the first time ever, gentle peoples of Ficsit, I have automated not just one, but TWO phase 4 parts. Feeling pretty good right now

[frail sleet]

They also fly through unrelated factories 🙈

[west jackal]

dang sam seems so cool now, ive never seen it before bc i havent played since 0.8

[sullen gull]

All until you use it in some Convertors and watch your power grid go bonkers 🤣

[prisma thicket]

To be fair, the early game uses for SAM are pretty amazing, DD and APA really make a big impact early on.

[zenith pecan]

Bah, couldn't sleep, loading my game again 🤣

[prisma thicket]

Don't you just love insomnia?

[green fiber]

Alchemy go brrrrr

[sullen gull]

Must Consume! ... right @junior laurel ?

[zenith pecan]

Frustrating but oh well, I have the worlds bauxite to process and I need to sort a plumbing system that takes 6x mk2 popes and feeds 20 refineries (x5) , blergh.

[zenith pecan]

Coffee first, then aluminium scrap!

[sullen gull]

I swear, with the amount of Items I have thrown into the sink from my inventory, I probably could have P4 done and over with 🤦‍♂️

[prisma thicket]

... but... coupons!

[zenith pecan]

Converters will be working overtime once I have the aluminium ingots, the trigons must flow!

[fast lotus]

any way to delete an entire placed blueprint?

[zenith pecan]

Press F, select mode to blueprint, then dismantle.

[fast lotus]

thanks!

[west jackal]

is solid biofuel worth it if im using the standalone gens that have input?

[sullen gull]

You can press R to switch mode fyi

[sullen gull]

yes (sorry, caps lol)

And make sure to research the Production amplifier and sloop the outputs all the way through.

[prisma thicket]

Solid biofuel is the more efficient fuel, so less is required to keep your biomass burners running.

[sullen gull]

Solid bio for days

[west jackal]

okay cool

im close to coal but i need to run my factories for a few to make the plates/rotors

im like 5h in, im just doing a small coal power plant for now bc i HATE biofuel

[sullen gull]

Making SB is still handy for making Liquid Bio Fuel for jetpacks

[west jackal]

i normally just make packaged fuel

since you cant automate bioefuel can you???

[cyan garnet]

LBF lasts significantly longer in the jetpack

[sullen gull]

No, but with slooping, you make more than enough with minimal effort/gathering

[west jackal]

when you say last longer, do you mean you can fly higher before landing?

what is slooping

[sullen gull]

LBF is more for longevity, higher yes, but slower. Ionized is the top-tier

[cyan garnet]

Longer burn time which means you can go higher or further horizontally

[west jackal]

wth is ionized, ig a lot has changed

[cyan garnet]

It’s really the only jetpack fuel worth using until you can get ionized in late game

[sullen gull]

Lol, Ionized Fuel, way later in game

[prisma thicket]

Packaged Liquid Biofuel has the longest burn time of all the fuels for the jetpack. It's vertical thrust kinda sucks, but you can just spam spacebar to get higher.

[zenith pecan]

Can't fully automate no, but you can setup a container, smart splitters, slooped constructors etc to make a shed load of solid biofuel, which can go to a refinery along with water to make liquid in vast amounts, since fauna respawns, you have a fairly renewable jetpack fuel.

[cyan garnet]

Ionized fuel is tier 9. Rocket fuel + power shards

[west jackal]

i dont know what slooped is

[cyan garnet]

[west jackal]

rocket fuel?? power shards???!

t9 is new lol

[cyan garnet]

Have you found any of these?

[sullen gull]

My bad, shouldv'e known. It's the new items that you could collect in .8 but now have a use

[west jackal]

i just started im not there yet! dont worry about explaining

[sullen gull]

Somersloops and Mercer Spheres

[west jackal]

ik what a somersloop is but idk what it does

[cyan garnet]

Research it in the MAM

[sullen gull]

It allows for multiplied outputs from machines. 1.5x, 2x, etc

[west jackal]

and yeah ill learn this stuff soon, i "finished" the game a while back but that was before t9

[zenith pecan]

Yikes! , I wasn't thinking at all, I'll chalk it up to insomnia.

Somersloops are fantastic for getting more out of the poer slugs.

[prisma thicket]

In the MAM there is the Alien Technology research tree if you have found a Somersloop or a Mercer Sphere. On the right side you'll find the Production Amplification upgrade, which allows you to insert Somersloops or sloops into production machines to double their output.

[west jackal]

that is so cool

[sullen gull]

Just know, you don't want to turn any slugs into power shards (one you get there) Until you can do it with machines that have sloops in them.

[west jackal]

does it increase the input required?

[sullen gull]

Nope

[west jackal]

😮

[zenith pecan]

Power shards do, somersloops don't

[cyan garnet]

Just requires more power

[west jackal]

what is dimensional depot?

[zenith pecan]

Somersloops just use more power to straight up raise (upto double) production.

[west jackal]

ive only found mercers

[cyan garnet]

Get crackin on your MAM research

[prisma thicket]

It takes 4x the power, but that's worth the additional output.

[sullen gull]

Think of it as "virtual storage"

[west jackal]

that sounds amazing

[cyan garnet]

you could just play the game and figure all this out instead of asking us to spoil literally everything 😬

[sullen gull]

Accessible from your TAB menu, once researched ofc.

[west jackal]

ive played the game a lot before its just been a while

[zenith pecan]

Save is in no way ready for share, I'm still untangling the mess of pipes at the process all the worlds bauxite factory.

[sullen gull]

Speaking truths over there 🤣

[next sluice]

Anyone know how to get floor hole working for hypertubes? I set one up and I get stuck at the top in the foundation

[zenith pecan]

You're trying to pierce the ground?

[cyan garnet]

anyways, get going on MAM research with anything you find on the map

[next sluice]

I assumed placing a foundation, and a floor hole would make a hole in the floor?

What's the point of that otherwise

[sullen gull]

Yeah, exploring heavily, as early as you can, pays off big in early game imo

[west jackal]

ahk, okay

ig im gonna go look for sloops

[sullen gull]

Especially when you can find many late game items laying around the hard drives.

[west jackal]

yeah i found som hmf and comps but no use to me now

[prisma thicket]

Might be advisable to setup coal power first so your factory can keep running while you're off exploring, but that's your call.

[sullen gull]

That's cuz you hardcore like that!

[zenith pecan]

If trying to hypertube through the ground to get under the map, place a 1x8 foundation, then snap a 4x8 to it, put the floor hole on the 4x8, it'll go through when you hypertube it, you just get stuck between the foundation and the ground on the basic foundation otherwise..

[next sluice]

no im trying to hypertube from the ground up to the 2nd floor of my building

[west jackal]

thats what im tryna do now, im talking to yall while im crafting sbf so i can let rotors run

[next sluice]

I place a floor hole at the 2nd floor with a tube, and i get stuck at the foundation

[sullen gull]

Do you have an exit?

[next sluice]

Yes

The foundation is stopping me

[sullen gull]

I'd say post the question in #1038092680493801533 with screenshots

[frail sleet]

If you slow down to minimum speed or if you approach it at too flat of an angle that might happen. Best to go straight up, with some pop to fly out the other end. Extra entrances (at the start, or midway) can accelerate you.

Yeah post pics

[zenith pecan]

You didn't layer more than one foundation as part of that floor did you, the hole will only pierce one foundation, not several.

[next sluice]

maybe its not enough speed

wait no bc i got stuck ktrying to go down also

[zenith pecan]

Oh, I see what happened, one moment please #screenshots message

[elder apex]

the concrete union 'representative' would like to have a word with you, and he doesn't seem happy.

[zenith pecan]

I stuck another bit of tube on it #screenshots message , and no longer whack into the foundation, it seems traversing upwards, you can't terminate with just the floor hole (at least with a 1x8, I'll test other foundations in a minute.

I just tested the floor hole on a 4x8, you can terminate the hole on that and not slap into the foundation, gotta be a bug #screenshots message

[frail sleet]

I've terminated with only a floor hole almost every time just fine - but i always placed them from on top of the foundation. The geometry or something might differ

[zenith pecan]

The 1x8 I crashed into was placed from above.

[zenith pecan]

After a few tests, it's a bug, nothing we can do other than use thicker foundations with the holes or horizontal exits.

[west jackal]

how do sloops work if you put them in a power gen?

is it just good?

[zenith pecan]

Tested with a powered entrance #screenshots message , I still smacked into the foundation.

No, but you can sloop the fuel producers.

[west jackal]

ohh

[next sluice]

odd xd

[zenith pecan]

Yeah, I tested it to hell.

[west jackal]

idk what augment or pasta means but is it possible to do infinite biofuel with packager/unpackager? or can you not sloop those

[cyan garnet]

You can’t sloop packagers

[west jackal]

nuts 😦

[sullen gull]

But you can sloop everything UP to the packagers.

Ugh ... how much copper again ... 🤯

[cyan garnet]

Other buildings, such as Miners, Water Extractors, Oil Extractors, Resource Well Pressurizers, or the Packager cannot be amplified.

[sullen gull]

Heh, I am only just now getting all the achievements with this save lol. Only just got the "You can pet that" one today 🤣

Still need to do world height, and the rest is just completing the phases/game

Don't you worry about what I do when I do what I do .... 😏

[west jackal]

the terror of spaghetti i have created trying to rush rotor production without enough concrete for foundations

factory is nightmare fuel

my girlfriend made me get a lizzard doggo pet named clifford and he just gave me a freaking nuke ;-;

i used too, it was... fun

i was trying to figure out why my factory wasnt full effeciency and i have noodle conveyors clipping through each other walls, sand dunes, and everything else they can

lol

is coal generator 12 c/pm ?

okay

did they increase water req for the gen?

the generator says 45 but it used to be 3 extractors could handle 8 gens...

wait

its late, my brain no math

[zenith pecan]

Pipe can only move 300 water though, you need 360 for 8 coals, you need to redesign the piping.

[west jackal]

3:8 works

[prisma thicket]

Just make sure to double pipe

[west jackal]

yessir

i remember that pipes are pita

[zenith pecan]

Don't remind me, I'm threading a rats nest of pipes in a bauxite refinery.

[west jackal]

uh yikes

[zenith pecan]

Only 644h in the current save, the old one was about 3000ish, the one before that about 1000, I lost a 500h save due to my machine dying and I can't count the time spent before I bought the game because not a great topic.

[west jackal]

dang i only have like 3k total and 600 of that was before fluids even existed

the good ole days where coal gens only had one input and oil extractors output barrels of crude

[zenith pecan]

I'll see how well 10x pipe merges work under the refinery, dividing 3x pipes between 8 refineries each isn't mathing well.

[west jackal]

i remember my fuel gen "setup" it was... not good

dang rocket fuel? that sounds... fun

i remember spending a couple hundred hours helping my friend with his turbofuel factory

??

no nuclear gens?

oh rocket fuel is ez, idk why the planner isnt working tho

[abstract heron]

getting ready soonish

[prisma thicket]

Rocket fuel requires the Turbo Fuel, Rocket Fuel and Compacted coal alternate recipes to be unlocked to work. So make sure you have those selected in the planner to get it working.

[west jackal]

ohh i didnt realize that turbofuel was an alt only

blend does, but there is 3 right?

plain, heavy, and blend

[latent prawn]

kinda. you need hard drives to unlock it & compacted coal in the mam. as such the base recipes are kinda alt-but-not-alt

[abstract heron]

i make probbaly 9600 RF about now 576,000MW with 960 fuel gens at 600MW per power

[prisma thicket]

Fuel is the only type that is unlocked by normal progression, all the others are unlocked via the MAM and are considered alternate recipes.

[west jackal]

is it a good idea to have everything required for power generation on a seperate circuit from main factory so the power doesnt go offline if i overload?

its irrelevant later game when i have batteries to jump start the grid

[green fiber]

Thats what you can use priority switches for

[west jackal]

long time no see mcgalleon, but i dont have priority switches anyways

[prisma thicket]

You can also unlock Priority Power Switches to automatically shut down lower priority systems in the event your consumption goes over production.

[west jackal]

he taught me pipes, many moons past

er, tried

[green fiber]

funny enough i am on vacation

[junior laurel]

Yus

[latent prawn]

you know, the priority switches don't really solve anything if you are good with building power storage, but they are kinda useful at flipping remote stuff on & off

i've been making good use of them for switching portals on & off so that i don't burn through more singularity cells than i need to

[sullen gull]

You need to go warsh your mouth with soap good sir.. Cussing like that .. jeesh

[rich kestrel]

hello!

this game is satisfactory

i approve and have already ordered a ficsit mug to my domicile

already started the space elevator 1hr21m in

300 screws 100 iron plates and 300 wires DONE

my manufacturing is one to beat

@unborn gyro i got a little bit scared and freaked out when i collected the ||mercer sphere|| but i'm okay

[urban root]

Its really hard to start this project knowing in 10 days i can auto connect these blueprints.

[sullen gull]

Make the switch now. Experimental is easily playable. And your save should transfer just fine

[urban root]

yea, but then ill have to switch my server to an from experi.

[west jackal]

autoconnect blueprints??!

[sullen gull]

https://tenor.com/view/intergalactic-quality-intergalactic-dennice-the-menace-yep-dennis-the-menace-yep-gif-13852416563425310673

[west jackal]

that sounds lovely

[urban root]

yes it looks glorious. Pipe and conveyor bus easy mode. No longer tedious as hell.

[west jackal]

omg i cant wait

blueprints were already such a win

is zipline still on caterium tree

[swift kernel]

Capitalism has ruined our sleep schedules peemay

[dense violet]

if you're sleeping you can't be creating value for share holders, commie

[west jackal]

it is 3am for me and i have to learn how to play pickleball to play with my gf and her brother/his girlfriend

(in the next 6 hours because we are meeting at 9)

[sullen gull]

Ehhh, fellow EST TZ ..

[west jackal]

instead i am playing satisfactory

[green fiber]

sure is

[west jackal]

nice

also, do sloops work on miners?

[green fiber]

No

No sloop slot on miners or other extractors

And neither on packagers

[west jackal]

they told me that earlier

no infinite biofuel 😦

[last jungle]

thats op

[sullen gull]

#satisfactory message

[last jungle]

op isnt fun

[swift kernel]

I want to escape to a democratic socialist country just so I can finally take care of my mental health

[last jungle]

unless its the point of the game

[dense violet]

sadly those countries don't exist

[swift kernel]

This game literally came out of one

[last jungle]

how do i kill the black girrafe-tick things

[swift kernel]

With patience

Lots of patience. Bullets help too

[sullen gull]

Or three Nobelisks I hear... Though ADA may scold you 😏

[abstract heron]

I’ll tell you later what I am making but it’s not 576,000mw

[last jungle]

what does scold mean

im a dumb

ok this guy finally died

[swift kernel]

Telling you you did a bad

[abstract heron]

should I connect my rf fuel factory to my main grid

[last jungle]

only 20 iron rebars wasted

[sullen gull]

Yell at you, chastise, make fun of

[sullen gull]

scold /skōld/
intransitive verb

To reprimand or criticize harshly and usually angrily. To express harsh or angry disapproval to someone. To find fault or rail with rude clamor; to brawl; to utter harsh, rude, boisterous rebuke; to chide sharply or coarsely; -- often with at.

[swift kernel]

Yeah, just separate them with a power switch just in case

[last jungle]

ok

why do i have so little iron plates wth

[abstract heron]

I’ will do that when I wake up

@swift kernel

[last jungle]

ok i killed the black girrafe-tick shit of a thing

[sullen gull]

That's Steve btw

[last jungle]

steve

????

[sullen gull]

🤷‍♂️ Don't ask me lol.

[dark meadow]

So when 1.0 drops who here is gonna be like me and likely not play it cause of some ADHD mental block

[last jungle]

when 1.0 drops 😭😭

[dense violet]

a key point of socialism is companies being owned by the employees. This is not the case

a lot of people confuse 'goverment doing stuff = socialism. The more governmenter, the more socialister'

[sullen gull]

#off-topic-general ...

[last jungle]

3 stacks of reinforced plating from changing my mk2 belts to mk3 is crazy

[abstract heron]

I am going SOON

[zenith pecan]

I'll try to sleep again soon enough, but the pipes! the pipes!

[abstract heron]

Or I want to play and it’s like 30c or hot weather outside

[last jungle]

but a mans best friend is a dog

[storm girder]

do braided cables do anything or are they just for looks?

[sullen gull]

Cosmetic.

[last jungle]

when do i get circuit boards (milestone tier/mam research)

[prisma thicket]

Circuit boards are just after oil processing, phase 3

They may even come with the oil processing milestone.

[wide cedar]

it feels like im doping something wrong because i just left the game running for 221 minutes and came back to 34 motors

[prisma thicket]

2 questions: How many motors per minute is your system supposed to be producing? and are all your manifolds running at 100%?

[wide cedar]

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh what is a manifold

[prisma thicket]

If you have several machines in a row, with a single input line feeding into each of them with splitters, that is a manifold.

It takes some time for all the machines in a manifold to start running at 100%, assuming you are feeding enough materials into it to start.

[wide cedar]

uh i have one of each of the things thats required for all the thingies

however i just checked to count and im kms because i put wires instead of cables into a thing

oh well problem solved

[prisma thicket]

Lol glad you figured it out

[urban root]

im trying not to play right now because i have lots of stuff to do that will be made 1000x better with the new blueprint connect systme in 1.1

[wide cedar]

me not knowing what blueprints or 1.1 is ._.

[prisma thicket]

Blueprints are a way to pre-build a set of machines, with all the connections and decorations you want, then you can place that blueprint in the world to build all that stuff at once, instead of doing it manually.

1.1 is the next update for the game and it's coming June 10th.

[urban root]

imagine you want to run 8 conveyors across the map. with blueprints you can you can prebuild and save the template as a "blueprint" as a section and then copy & paste them and they will auto connect to one another.

[wide cedar]

im imagining if any of you saw how im doing things youd want to kill yourself just as i do when i see people type google.com into google search

[dark meadow]

Havent played in like 2 years i think

Not thatd itd matter anyways if i did. I'd get into phase 2 and then stop playing cause of some mental block

[urban root]

i cant stop coming back. I wish they would do paid dlc lol

[sacred summit]

Coincidentally, I just jumped back to the Discord to say that I'm thinking about giving it another chance 😅 Coming in with an understanding of all its flaws, if I could now maybe appreciate the rest for what it is.

[prisma thicket]

@urban root love the pfp btw, Electric Callboy are amazing

[frail sleet]

Now imagine it with 120 (yes, that fits)

[sacred summit]

Gods almighty, I jump back, and the first discussion I see is about one of the key things that made me leave 🤣 🤣 🤣

Gonna give me a permanent eye twitch.

[frail sleet]

Well it's fixed on experimental (or in a week and a half)

[sacred summit]

I doubt it.

[frail sleet]

you can connect 120 belts with 1 click

[sacred summit]

My problem (in relation to this topic) is more the blueprint mechanic itself. I won't put everyone through my belly-aching and bemoaning, just... suffice to say, I don't find the blueprinting to be Satisfactory at all.

[frail sleet]

Yeah, it needs work

arbitrary sizing for starters

[sacred summit]

Give 'em a fkin prize, Johnny. They nailed it on the head.

[latent prawn]

except for a few rough edges/bugs, i like the system, its just that i wish there weren't size limits on it all

[frail sleet]

If you want to build 50 of something, you shouldn't have to cram together 6 blueprints to make 1 of that thing, and then connect those 6 blueprints in the same way 50 times

other games understand this and you can just build something in the world as you want to build it, then copy/paste it.

[latent prawn]

i have to say though, even though i wish there were larger dimensions for bp's in the nilla game, the 6x6 final bpm is really big enough for most needs

[sacred summit]

Yeah, I know my complaint - and I think most others' complaints, from those in other factory games' discords who I've seen discuss it - would be fixed if they would just replace that grid size limit, with a machine size limit. You could still have it tiered so you can make bigger blueprints. But it would make more sense, IMO. If I want to make a two machine blueprint, it shouldn't matter if it's 2 squares away, for 472 squares away. It's two damned machines.

[pearl walrus]

YOU CAN PLACE POWER POLES ALONG CABLES???????????

[latent prawn]

i agree to some extent, but i think the building-in-a-box approach to bp's is sort of a good choice for the game

[sullen gull]

And wall outlets fyi

[frail sleet]

Until you try to put 2 refineries end to end, and you can't fit them properly

[latent prawn]

yeah, as i said, bigger dimensions

[pearl walrus]

400 hours in 😭😭

[sacred summit]

They could finnagle in some FICSIT-esque explanation for increasing blueprint size that way, IMO.
"We turbo-synced the neuro-circuits and quantum-sprinkled an extra zettabyte into the brainpan of your Build Gun."

[frail sleet]

10x10 instead of 5x5 at lategame would solve a lot of issues, i just don't personally agree with it being better game design than arbitrary blueprints. The smaller you make it, the more often and severely it infringes though.

[latent prawn]

i get the rationale of it from a game's vision perspective

yep, 10x10 is sort of where i think it should be. mods give you that

[sacred summit]

man, managed to get me back on this topic 😭

[sullen gull]

Lol, I feel that. I still feel I learn new stuff almost every day

[latent prawn]

except for some railroad stuff, 10x10 is big enough for anything you'd reasonably want to bp

[sullen gull]

I think they should all be odd numbers. 3x3, 7x7, 9x9 😏

hides

[sacred summit]

Yes and no... I get that the game really is just "build a factory"... it doesn't have the Bugs of Factorio, the limited resources and civilization management of COI, the interplanetry logistics of DSP.
But at the same time, i think you can honor the idea of "make the factory grow," and still sacrifice the tedium of "put it together brick by brick".

[latent prawn]

early on when the modders added the bigger bp machines, and the building mechanics for nudging them for placement weren't as good, larger bp's were really unwieldy

[sacred summit]

Oh, I need to see that 😅

[latent prawn]

and before bp delete, oh god

[sacred summit]

Yeah, fk them for not making that feature more obvious 😭

[sullen gull]

Ooof, that would be torture for sure.

[sacred summit]

I manually deleted hundreds and hundreds of blocks from blueprints, multiple times, trying to make small, tedious adjustments before I realized that was a thing.

[frail sleet]

I can give an example of an aluminum processing module for 600 baux. Some 8 refineries, bit of room for piping between them or around the outside, outputs at the front and 40 smelters for the aluminum, more for copper. Throw a sink in there so that you don't have to place it manually etc.. maybe you want to make one blueprint with assemblers for alclad casings and another for alclad sheets? You need to build 6-8 blueprints which are all awkwardly made/cramped around the blueprint system and then you need to put them down one-by-one and awkwardly connect them together as if they had come in a single blueprint.

Then to process your bauxite, you might need to do that exact same process 30 times in a row.

[latent prawn]

it isn't that bad, but yeah, a 10x10 bp allows you to build it exactly how you want

[frail sleet]

I would say almost, for the most part 😄 You're still heavily suggested to do stuff like stacking smelters on top of each other for 10x10 to do something like that.

[latent prawn]

i have a 10x10 bp i made of the oil recycling loop

[sullen gull]

Oil recycling loop?

[sacred summit]

Honestly, I'd say 10x10 is perfect. Get rid of the Mk system for the blueprints. Just unlock a 10x10 blueprint out of the gate.... And then have the other upgrades increase the amount of blocks/machines/whatever that its memory is capable of storing.

[latent prawn]

300 oil->900 plastic or rubber

[sullen gull]

Oh, yeah. Duh

[latent prawn]

i end up building a lot of those loops and yeah, they're pretty much the same thing over & over

and alum ingots are pretty much another big thing you'll spam out enough times to wish it bp'd

just about anything else you'll do cookie cutter will fit in the 6x6 bp designer, i think

[sullen gull]

I've personally come to enjoy the 5x5 enough. Been great for everything I've needed and it forces me to build more 'compact' instead of sprawling out. That's just my weirdness though.

[frail sleet]

It hits a bit deeper when you build 100,000 foundations as the first step of your projects

and then you don't like vertically stacking certain things 😄

[sullen gull]

Lol, that's where Inifnite Zoop comes in handy imo 🤣

[frail sleet]

Yeah i remembered that existed afterwards

[sullen gull]

Hindsight and all 🤷‍♂️

[junior laurel]

I have only found myself using the blueprints for decor... 😅

[latent prawn]

i wish there was something like a 2d zoop for foundation

[sacred summit]

Is that a setting that has to be unlocked? I spent my whole time playing dealing with the 10 limit

[sullen gull]

On the x AND y you mean?

[sacred summit]

(Infinite Zoop)

[frail sleet]

It's a mod unfortunately

[sacred summit]

wtf

[sullen gull]

Erm, not afaik? It's been a minute since used

Ahh

[frail sleet]

you can configure it to zoop like exactly 200x if you point mouse at infinite

[sullen gull]

On the x and y axis together..

[frail sleet]

so you get speed AND precision

[sullen gull]

1000x1000 pad, done

[latent prawn]

i find the time with it isn't the 10x limit, but having to do that over & over

ofc, you can just bp a 25 foundation slab and do that pretty painlessly

[sullen gull]

Or 36 😏

[latent prawn]

yeah, the 6x6 is unlocked a bit late in the game though

[sullen gull]

True

[latent prawn]

my preference would be that the level 2 bpm were 6x6 and then there was a 3rd one that is 10x10

[sullen gull]

It does seem strange that they picked an odd number for the mid range imo

But I get it, only goes up by one each mk

[latent prawn]

ehh, its just x, x+1, x+2

i really am happy though that they decided to allow bigger in the base game. it was never a matter of having more space to fit more stuff into a bp, it was a matter of having the space you needed to bp what you wanted to blueprint

[frail sleet]

it used to be smaller?

[sullen gull]

I still feel it was intended to enforce trying to use 'space' efficiently as well 😏

[latent prawn]

4x4 was all you had in the nilla game before 1.0

[plain marten]

pov my power grid: #screenshots message

[latent prawn]

i think it was more that the devs wanted the work of building the factories to be rewarding and not boilerplate

[sullen gull]

Awwwl yeah, living dangerously .. Love it

[plain marten]

theres no danger i just have power storage

[sullen gull]

Wait, didn't .8 have the 5x5?

[plain marten]

and problemo solved

[frail sleet]

Building the same thing which has the same 200 parts over and over again is not rewarding, it's easily the least fun part of the game

that's EA "pride and accomplishment" vibes 😄

90% of my stuff is not blueprinted because it's something that i'm building new, and that would not change

[burnt ferry]

instant scrap doesnt seem to be an efficient recipe? satisfactorytools is only using it when iforbid the normal recipe for the things ive looked up

[frail sleet]

It's resource inefficient yes

it skips a processing step

[burnt ferry]

ye.. i thought i could trigger its usage by demanding high output numbers.. but still

[frail sleet]

Tools just goes by resource efficiency only, defined as the % of the total map resources used by each part of the recipe added up

so it will always use the same recipe unless you run out of a required resource

[burnt ferry]

hm.. i thought leached iron ingots were resource wise better as well..

but im ignoring sulfur too much i guess

[latent prawn]

sftools prefers recipes based on their input resource costs. because those costs are weighted by the amount available, sulfur taking recipes tend to get rated pretty low

[frail sleet]

leached iron is less resource efficient than pure

[burnt ferry]

its not using leached iron ingot though

[frail sleet]

Pure doesn't use sulfur, and gives more ingots per ore - so why would it use leached

[latent prawn]

well, it shouldn't

[burnt ferry]

hm.. in my memory there was more ingots per ore

[frail sleet]

only for caterium

[latent prawn]

you get the same yield from basic iron and limestone is more available than sulfur

basic iron & leached are both 2x

pure is 65/35 and alloy is iirc 75/45

[burnt ferry]

ah.. copper is also better than 1:2

so iwas wrongly assuming the same for iron i guess

pure is 7/13

[sullen gull]

I'm assuming Heat Exchanger alt is better than the Heat Sink alt yeah? (Thogh, I've already planned to make sheets ...

[burnt ferry]

there is no 'better'

[latent prawn]

yeah, very good alum conserving recipe

[plain marten]

looks like im gonna have to make a nuclear plant

[sullen gull]

Just trying to figure out how I want to divvy up these 12,300 alu ingots ....

[burnt ferry]

ye... bauxite from sam conversion apparently....

wasnt even thinking about that, but i think ive unlocked it already

[frail sleet]

Leached copper is 1 : 2.44 plus sulfur cost.

Pure copper is 1 : 2.5 and takes water, which is minor logistical concern but resource-wise it's essentially free. You can't run out of it.

[latent prawn]

and tempered is 1:2.4

i have no idea why they added the tempered copper & cat recipes

[sullen gull]

"wrench in the gears" imo. To make people think harder 🤣

[burnt ferry]

which resource an you run ou tof?

cant run out of sulfur either

[latent prawn]

all of them get very tight if you're looking at lofty production goals and/or max nuclear

[sullen gull]

Water essentially has no limit. Unlike all nodes.

[burnt ferry]

and logistically the smelter is the best i guess

only one input

[sullen gull]

I.E, you can ONLY pull a max of 1200/min from a node.

[latent prawn]

the ones you'll find limiting more than others are bauxite & sam

[burnt ferry]

ah node wise

ye but.. i mean as long as youre not at the coast.. the lake i put my water extractors in has also limited size

[sullen gull]

Whereas water, you can add as many extractors as desired. Only limited to a max of 600m3/min for pipes.

[burnt ferry]

and logistically...., 😂 that lake is an ocd nightmare

[sullen gull]

The one with the 4 coal nodes nearby?

[burnt ferry]

noob starter point

[sullen gull]

Ahh

[burnt ferry]

i mean i get the point but i dont consider any resource as limited basically..

[sacred summit]

Sorry, thought I tabbed back to the COI discord 🤣

[latent prawn]

the 12300/min bauxite available on the map becomes pretty limiting quickly

[sullen gull]

Well, for instance, without conversion of course, you can only ever pull a max of 12,300 bauxite...

[burnt ferry]

also i want to build these pressured water extractors..

i mean they cant compete against limitlessly placed water extractors either..

[burnt ferry]

pe rminute

thats unlimited by definition.. but like i said. ig et the point\

mercer spheres are limited

[sullen gull]

I mean still though .... 12,300 alu ingots is a ton lol.. on my planner currently, I have 4100 going to sheets, casings and empty tanks lol.

Though, there is no way I need 4100 empty tanks /min lmao

[latent prawn]

well, if you mean things that don't replenish or allow infinite mining: wood, leaves, bacon mushrooms are really the only limited resources

[burnt ferry]

are alu ingots that important with mk6 belts?

[latent prawn]

mk5 belts

[sullen gull]

Ficsit trigons

[latent prawn]

mk6 belts are trigons+time crystal

[burnt ferry]

then i say mk4 with more paralleziation

[sullen gull]

mk4 = EIB

[burnt ferry]

ah ok

so itsl ike mk3 vs mk4

[latent prawn]

mk4 belts suck to build with, lol

[burnt ferry]

they do? other than because of their speed?

[zenith pecan]

Aluminium ingots give the best conversion rate to ficsite ingots, though you can use other stuff.

[sullen gull]

Oohh, yeah, forgot about that one .. that's what I will do instead of the mass amount of tanks ...

[burnt ferry]

are ficsit ingots just unnecessarily expensive variants of normal ingots? 😂

[sullen gull]

Hmmm, is 768.75/min good nuff, or should I go for more ...

[zenith pecan]

I'm going to split off the 1.5 refinery worth because it will look odd in the dead on 12000 ingot refinery, and dedicate that for depot trigons and sink.

[sullen gull]

Needed to make the trigons, but really the only use for reanimated SAM, outside of research.

[sullen gull]

Only 1200? Not going for that extra 3hundo?

[zenith pecan]

I'm getting that 300, but as I said, that's going to be dedicated for depot trigons.

[sullen gull]

Ahh ok

Hmmm ...

[zenith pecan]

It'll be a little overclocked pair of refineries off to the side.

[sullen gull]

What's your numbers for sheets, casings, etc that you're making ooc?

[burnt ferry]

200/ticket

👹

[sullen gull]

Though, we could take this to math and meta if bothering anyone lol

[zenith pecan]

Undecided at the moment, it was an uneven mess before the teardown so I'm running off stores until I make a decision.

[sullen gull]

Lol, i did that, then had to delete my temp setup to build with, then ran out 🤣

[zenith pecan]

Now time crystals have been shifted to the swamp coking plant, I ripped out the abomination that was sitting on the sand 😄

[sullen gull]

So I rushed to get copper going so I could put up another block lol.

LIke, I just made a 500 ingot > 500 sheets BP, and working on casings now ...

[zenith pecan]

I still have some temp skeletal frames producing modest numbers, I'm leaving those in place until my larger works are onlined, such as the steel fab near the power station that will push 4800 steel with just power station byproduct and the nearby iron nodes.

[sullen gull]

But casings are produced abundantly with the alclad alt ... so I am not sure if I want to make it to eat 500 or 1000

[zenith pecan]

I probably won't use the alclad alt simply because I'm going to be needing copper in abundance elsewhere, one target is 20 sing cells to run the future portal network.

Could say it replaces my old supersonic travelway built out of a web of cannons.

[frail sleet]

Believe me, you can 😄

must you? No

but iron and limestone are functionally infinite on a map scale, and water is as close to literally infinite as anything that we have

[sullen gull]

Well, I'm currently doing 5,876.64 copper ingots ... and I don't need 615 heatsinks /min do I? 🤔

Because now you've got me 'future' planning ...

[frail sleet]

The main problems with sulphur are if you want to use it where it does help yield (processing all of the caterium) and also for power, you can run out on a large enough scale

[zenith pecan]

Ahh heat sinks, I need to keep those in mind when I get nuclear power started again.

[burnt ferry]

i have no trouble in believing that you can exhaust the maximum available resources per minute... in fact.. this is also limited for wter because eventually you will run out of space to place them exxtractors.. you wont reach those limits probably but when i say 'you cant run out' then i mean the fact that you cant run out of that resource

not that you can require more per time than you can extract per time

[wide cedar]

HOUR 81 MINUTE 1 i just found out that big gray panel under buldings sis for overclocking them

[burnt ferry]

which is not hard to imagine

[sullen gull]

Ooh, lemme bring up the awesome Nuke setup someone from here sent me .. wonder what I would need for that ...

[wide cedar]

chat am i cooked

[zenith pecan]

My last save had a grand total of 62 sulphur available on the entire map.

[frail sleet]

oh yeah. I just mean that there's a limited amount per minute on the map

[burnt ferry]

thats true for all resources

[frail sleet]

It is, but it's more true for some than others

[burnt ferry]

no matter if their total amount is limited or not

of course

[frail sleet]

you can do wild builds that take 30% of the limestone and don't benefit at all from using any more of it. Meanwhile, they use like 240% of the uranium or the bauxite which is on the map and they can't go any bigger because there is no way to get more of those things.

[zenith pecan]

My current save has ***all ***of the SAM and Bauxite mined and belted to the dunes.

[sullen gull]

You know what has to happen after all the sam and baux at the rate you're going riiiiight? 😏

[zenith pecan]

I still need to grab uranium and quartz.

[frail sleet]

for iron, limestone and water, limitations per-minute are essentially only local, while for baux/uranium and to a degree others, there is a significant global ceiling

[burnt ferry]

we came to this from discussing viability of certain recipes.. when im on my way to finish my midgame, im not necessarily thinking in the extreme limits of the game already

im just thinking, this is fast, this is slow.. this uses sulfur, this uses wter.. both unlimited resources in the game

[frail sleet]

It is something that will come up going forwards, if you're using sulphur to make more iron and copper locally now then you might not have enough for something else later.

[sullen gull]

I feel at the end, you'll have to figure out how to use up the rest of the limestone, iron and copper. And THEN, you must gather every random deposit ... so that ALL the resources are utilized! MuwhahA

[zenith pecan]

My pc would blow up if I tried to use everything.

[burnt ferry]

yes but there you do the impliicit step.. you start by saying 'when you using sulfur to make more copper'and then you jump to endgame immediately

[sullen gull]

I AM going to test it ... one day year! lol

[burnt ferry]

i get that you cant exhaust all limits games have to offer.. thats no news to me..

but not necessarily all im talking about

[zenith pecan]

Keeping in mind, my old save crashed the developers machines 🤣 , so I do tend to build big when I have enough time.

[frail sleet]

I don't think of it as endgame neccesarily, just forward planning. It's helpful to be able to know that you can move forwards without having to tear up what you have built, because you considered 10 or 100 hours later rather than just 1 hour

[burnt ferry]

my oxygen not included savegame would crash them developers pcs as well

because im using an unreasonable large amount of mods

[zenith pecan]

The issues of needing nearly 50gb of ram just to even load 😄

[frail sleet]

although there is a limited amount of planning that you can do when you are playing the game for the first time, some of the concerns are fairly obvious (like it's not easy for me to get more sulphur, for example)

[burnt ferry]

what if im doing exactly that quickly concluding, i wont exhaust all the sulfur in the game?

[frail sleet]

it's your judgement then, i just give the message to have some caution with allocation and recipe choice

[lime flint]

Will there be any dlc added to the game in the future?

[mortal ginkgo]

we know as much as you do, devs only said 1.1 is not the end

[reef basin]

not even those, only sloops and spheeres

[mortal ginkgo]

I think wood and leaves respawn? I got plenty in where I had my starter base which I cleared out

now I have cactus and even trees

[reef basin]

they respawn on updates sometimes, but my point is that lizard doggos can bring them, hence techincally infinite

[mortal ginkgo]

eh, thats hard pill to swallow for me. I wouldn't call such things infinite

[sullen gull]

Anyone ever do a probability test of the items they bring? lol

[reef basin]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Lizard_Doggo#Generating_items

[green fiber]

Suffice to say, unless you go all in on turbo fuel / rocket fuel, you cannot really run out if sulfur doing nuclear or other things

[wide cedar]

can I throw a hissy fit here?

[green fiber]

You can look for assistance but venting is kinda a mixed bag

[sullen gull]

I really should just seriously peruse the wiki some night 🤦‍♂️

Instead of using it as a reference material

[wide cedar]

hiss hiss hiss everything is so slow all the new stuff requires more of the old stuff but that comes out slow af and more power but theres only like 3 pieces of coal nearby which im already using there iis tons of orange sand everywhere running around back and forth everywhere sucks whyw did i pump water instaed of making electricity next to it grr ive wasted tons of concrete on a solid cube every time I want to make new conveyor belts or stuff I have to run back and get more materials and specifically for milestones steal materials from conveyor belts making that even slower and then when i get to hte spot find out im out of more mateirls and go run all the way back i literally just found out how to get overclocking 81 hours in and now im waiting for 50 motors to accumulate so i can send them for the advanced manufacturing before im gonna have to go find oil and plug that into pipes coming all the way back here for some reason and make plastic for the bigger thingies and despite this saying 5 motors a minute its actually less beause i have to wait for the previous parts of which there seems to be a constant wait just one by one and so ive currently expressed my hissing by taking 10 minutes what felt like to run after this ugly weird ass tall piece of smewmew space fat fmewmew creature and kill it with an electricity baton

https://tenor.com/view/cat-fall-ground-drop-oof-oop-die-play-dead-gif-18928206

:AhriIVsad:

[green fiber]

Ok so.....
How about you fix up your production first before you dip into even more production lines you seemingly already have no capacity to even supply in the first place

You need every part you can make already in the future at some point.

Your current lines seem to be running terrible by the sound of it

If you want more power, theres other places to build coal power at

Trying to brute force your way to fuel power is not gonna work out in your favour at this stage

Make a plan, tackle it one step at a time

First up is planning out some power so you can then fix your factories

Use the to-do list to count out all the parts you need for coal plants

[wide cedar]

:AhrismThinking: i made two normal iron mines (one is very far away)
they go into 4 smelters
and those go into 4 each constructors to make plates and rods and those just go into two storage containers each and then i split them into wherever i need them

also i now have 5 coal plants

[green fiber]

Thats not a lot

[wide cedar]

the what?

[green fiber]

To do list

[wide cedar]

._. ?

[green fiber]

If you right click on a machine in the build menu, you can add them to your to-do list

And you can access this list too at any time by opening any menu and hovering your mouse over to the right edge of the screen

The screen will darken. Click

[wide cedar]

wtf

https://tenor.com/view/blinking-eyes-white-guy-blinking-meme-what-huh-gif-26334323

howcome I didn't know about this 😭

[green fiber]

Game doesnt teach you

Its mostly stuff to discover

If you run out of stuff, perhaps some dimensional depots would benefit you too

Also, dont feed stuff into containers ans then back into production

That just means you have a fight with your factory over parts

If you want storage stuff, set aside a container and just have one machine (per part) produce stuff and that goes exclusively into a container

[wide cedar]

hmm i wish I knew what that is

sounds like an ender chest tho

[green fiber]

Do some MAM research

[green fiber]

Close enough

[wide cedar]

wait howcome

[green fiber]

Ever saw some funny purple sphers out in the world

[wide cedar]

ye

they make weird talking noises

[green fiber]

The production after the container eats the parts and then you are pissed because the container is empty

Dont do that

[wide cedar]

actually the 2 containers are constantly full of iron rods and plates (theres 4 constructors merged into them)

[green fiber]

Its still not beneficial

[green fiber]

Collect em, research in the MAM

Then you just follow the research. Explore the world some more, you may find fun things

[wide cedar]

hm i did see weird flowers with legs that poison you and space bee creatures

[green fiber]

better avoid the flowers for now

[dense violet]

I ain’t reading all that. Congrats though, or my condolences

[sturdy mural]

guys how many bonks per second is handcrafting?

[urban root]

Hell yea, I should have known only in this discord (pioneers with good taste) would it be recognized

[sullen gull]

The higher the item .. the more .. bonks? 😛 Not sure if there is a base

[hard ivy]

4/s

[hard ivy]

It's actually based on the crafting time of the recipe in the machine, but each recipe can have a multiplier so I don't think it can be predicted

[sullen gull]

I knew that much. It just seemed the 'bonk' were always at the same interval, just more of them the higher level item you went. But, never paied that close attention as I usually have music that is louder heh

[frozen ingot]

does ionised fuel in the jetpack give more air control? feels like it..

[leaden turret]

different fuels do different things in the jet pack

[stoic mountain]

do we know if there eventually will be boats in the game?

[reef basin]

yes and no

[hard ivy]

Depends what you mean by "air control". It has a lot of acceleration both horizontally and vertically. You can change the direction of movement quickly. But it's difficult to control when you need precise movement

[sturdy mural]

yeah, but i was wondering how fast are they bonking

[sturdy mural]

thank you

so it would take 25 minutes to make 100 pressure cubes

[hard ivy]

Just place one machine and overclock it?

[sturdy mural]

ik i just got curious cuz i saw i can make exactly 100

[mortal ginkgo]

Guys I am ultra sad... 1.1 patch made some very large trees removable. There was one that I destroyed carelessly...

And I just realised that after long while

[sullen gull]

You can put it back with SCIM i believe. Have not tried myself though.

[dense violet]

the ones in titan forest?

like the skyscrapper sized trees?

[mortal ginkgo]

Ya, I think I will do that very later. Scared that experimental save might get corrupted tho'.

[mortal ginkgo]

there was one in Rocky Desert

[sullen gull]

I tried blowing one of those up ... failed.

[dense violet]

I only remember the giant mushrooms there. The coral type stuff

[sullen gull]

I mean, I have edited this save quite a few times. Only one issue and Anthor fixed it pretty quick.

Not sure the issue came from SCIM though. Happened after the last update.

[mortal ginkgo]

#screenshots message its this one (it is truly annoying to not able to post images here, I am wasting space in actual screenshot section)

[dense violet]

oh that's a normal tree. You sure you couldn't blow them up before?

[sullen gull]

Haha, nice. I have one of those I am making sure I save just north of the blue crater 🤣

[mortal ginkgo]

oh is it? I never tried it because I thought it was too large

[sturdy mural]

i accidentally blew up like 2 BIG SHROOMS (like multiple floors type shroom)
i feel so sad bc of it

[dense violet]

right? I wish they were still indistructable

[mortal ginkgo]

@dense violet I am not even at oil stage so I dont think I went to those places 😄

[dense violet]

ah fair fair. Well there are some giant trees to your east

and those ones cannot be blown up thankfully xD

[mortal ginkgo]

I saw some Giant Jumpers back there and noped the heck out before it was too late.

I am a Souls Game veteran but I ain't messing with them jumping stingers.

[dense violet]

as long as you got your exploration gear, and a good gun/bomb you'll be alright with them

[mortal ginkgo]

well I have my trusty rebar

[sturdy mural]

1. place 3 nobelisks at your feet
2. lure one of em
3. it jumps on your location
4. falls on nobelisks, blows itself up
5. profit

[dense violet]

you'll want the rifle, maybe with turbo ammo

[mortal ginkgo]

Fighting with them is not the issue. I just don't like the way they walk, animate, look etc

[sturdy mural]

there's a mode to trun them to cat pngs

[dense violet]

oh lol, you could put on arachnaphobia mode?

[inland prism]

do truck stations use a constant 20mw of power or only when there's a truck loading/unloading?

[mortal ginkgo]

We can't improve ourselves if we always use the easy route. We need to overcome our fears, troubles and eventually get out of the situation.

👍

[dense violet]

also accepting inventory I believe

[inland prism]

struggling to see the point of trucks/tractors once I've unlocked trains :/

[dense violet]

need very little infrastructure, much less power/fuel, can move a lot of stuff