satisfactory

[hard ivy]

disconnect everything from the power plant and build a few biomass gens/augmenters to kickstart it

[wide cedar]

😅

[clever pier]

skill issue

[prime crane]

30 minutes into the satisfactory tutorial and the guy starts on throwing eggs💔💔

[wide cedar]

all all the wires are kind of connected to everything

😭

[clever pier]

Johnny has 4000 hours and can't figure out pipes?

[prime crane]

who does?

[wide cedar]

The wires which the pumps get power from are from the wires that already

[wide cedar]

whAT NUH UH

[clever pier]

you have problems with pipes?

forget balancing the water.. I just use coal gens and wet concrete

[hard ivy]

you don't need to balance anything either way. VIP, separate fresh/byproduct or packaging and everything works

[clever pier]

mexican or columbian coke?

[wide cedar]

@green fiber@boreal musk I have attatched a nice illustration of the problem

#screenshots message

[clever pier]

attach biofuel burners to the water extractors

[green fiber]

Yeah you use biomass to kickstart it

[clever pier]

use them to kickstart the coal gens

[green fiber]

Biomass burners to power miner, extractors and pumps

[wide cedar]

7 of biomass burners still keep failing ;-;

[peak harness]

Dude

[clever pier]

once its running you can connect everything in one network and the coalgens power themselves

[peak harness]

how about nukes can blow up bigger terrain pieces

like making a big terrain pieces to have two radius

[dim field]

so im hiiting my first time nuclear. i finished t8 and will start the space elevator for t9

[peak harness]

The first radius is to detect nuke so it explode in one nuke

but the second radius is making it look worn out

[dim field]

what combo of recepie u would recomend for nuclear power

[clever pier]

build more biomass burners and connect them directly to the water extractors

[peak harness]

the worn out look need another nuke to totally blew up

[clever pier]

and the same for miner and pumps

[pearl walrus]

Max uranium fuel rods, and non fissile into instant cell plutonium rods

[hard ivy]

depends what you want

[wide cedar]

oh like disconnect the water things from the one huge power network temporarily?

[clever pier]

yes

[pearl walrus]

You sound like greeny lol

[clever pier]

also you would make your setup simpler if you moved the coal gens to be directly next to the water extractors

[wide cedar]

but wait there are pumps near the coal power things because the pipe goes up

[clever pier]

and bring the coal to them

[wide cedar]

._. waitaminute

[hard ivy]

for nuclear it really depends on what you want exactly 🤷‍♂️

[wide cedar]

😭 kms

[pearl walrus]

Power lol what else

[clever pier]

I have 12 coal gens, 4 alien power augmenters, 12 fuel gens burning rocket fuel, 6 on turbofuel and a bunch of geysers... total 12 GW

[wide cedar]

why am i like this

[hard ivy]

for power, it's best not to do nuclear in the first place lol

[pearl walrus]

😭😭😭

[hard ivy]

unless you want the absolute max the map can give you

[clever pier]

but I plan to build some nuclear now just for fun

[boreal musk]

is it only a single water extractor?
if yes then you are not providing enough water as in extractor only provides 120/min while 4 coal generators needs 180/min (45*4)
and about the height difference, can be solved with pump
and dont forget to use biomass to kickstart coal miner and water extractor

[pearl walrus]

Average rf slave talking points😭

Jk ofc

[clever pier]

yeah I never disable the old power plants just build new ones as I unlock stuff

[dim field]

i got all alternate recepi but its my first time so i have no clue what would be effective

[hard ivy]

I hate RF because it's too good

[hard ivy]

but the fact is that it's the easiest power source

[pearl walrus]

If you intend to make the most power out of all uranium, go down the fuel unit, non fissile instant ölutonium route.

[hard ivy]

so if you just want power and don't care about anything else, there isn't much reason to do anything else

[pearl walrus]

No i called him a slave to rf

[pearl walrus]

Ye true

Building it was fun thiugh, i can imagine rf to be very boring

[clever pier]

counter point: nuclear plants look cool

[wide cedar]

theres two ;-;

thank you strange math people

[peak harness]

I have an crazy idea, wanna hear it?

[boreal musk]

then it narrows down the problem, your headlift is more than 20m

meaning you need 2nd pump

[lament vault]

is there a way to load balance in satisfactory modeler?

[boreal musk]

just for reminder, pump doesnt stack, you space them

[dim field]

@hard ivy so i wanted to use the uranium node north on the hilltop. with drones

[boreal musk]

theres a splurger in modeler, you can use them to load balance

[dim field]

for power i use turbo atm (30k)

[peak harness]

How about a building where you could make more somersloop by feeding it 1000 SAM ore and 1 million Megawatt

[hard ivy]

I'd suggest alt uranium cells, alt uranium rods, and default non-fissile, default plutonium pellets and cells, and default plut rods. Then sink the plut rods. That gives you the most power without any waste

[peak harness]

and it create one Somersloop per minute

[boreal musk]

sounds broken, how about 1 somersloop per year

[dim field]

i saw u saying nuclear is not worth for power. so for what u use uranium then ?

[peak harness]

no no its an reward for hte insane (the people who love to create big nuclear reactor)

[hard ivy]

nuclear. I just do it for fun, not for power. the only other thing you can use it for are nuke nobelisks

[peak harness]

did you know

YES

[dim field]

so i can also just sink it raw without any real loss

[peak harness]

Btw if a person need 200 watt of enegry to live

The whole humanity only takes 1.6 terra watt

A great pioneer could make 3 terra watt if it is the greatest

[hard ivy]

the nodes don't run out so you can sink anything you want without any loss. just remove the sink and use the ore when you need it

[frozen ingot]

🤔

[peak harness]

1 terra watt and plus 200% using the Alien Energy Aumenter

So 3 terawatt powerplant could exist

[dim field]

i meant loss in terms of that i dont need uranium at all if i wont make power out of it

[peak harness]

no no, i use reddit

its diffret

[hard ivy]

nuke power and nuke nobelisks. that's all uranium is used for

[boreal musk]

theres no any use of uranium outside bomb and power

not really a loss

[peak harness]

Any how

[dim field]

well then i save myself the hustle and just continue to use oil for powe

[peak harness]

The pioneer could feed enough energy for Humanity twice

Dyson phere anyone?

Cough cough

Cant wait for 1.2 where dyson sphrere could exist but it take 200 real life day to cover the whole sun of the planet

it could be 100 if you are bold enough

[lament vault]

if I have a train station that gets inputted with 120 item/m, then will the other train station also have 120 item/min but delivered in batches?

[limpid bluff]

Sorry, do we have any information on when the 1.1 update will be released?

[boreal musk]

#announcements

[limpid bluff]

ty

[hard ivy]

yes. assuming your setup can handle moving 120/min

[dim field]

or is there a combo that outputs more ?

[lament vault]

ok, so the output is limited by the belt speed?

[hard ivy]

belt speed, belt setup, number of trains, distance, stack size, stop settings

have you tried connecting the pipes?

[peak harness]

Did some say PLANET CRAFTER???

I like z1

gaming, cause he play that game to the fullest

[dim field]

currently i use crude oil - heavy oil residue-diluted fuel- turbo fuel. i guess i can just advance it to rocket fuel @hard ivy

[peak harness]

currenlty watching him playing the dlc

[dim field]

or is there a more effective combo

[peak harness]

I have another crazy building idea

[hard ivy]

rf has 2 recipes so you can either upgrade fuel or turbofuel to rocket fuel. you can use https://satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production to figure out what you want to do and how much it'll cost

[peak harness]

To the fix the infinite green energy bit

How about a solar extractor building where we place one somersloop so its absorbs the sunlight and turns it into liquid Ion that can be burn and use as fuel

It is

so it would be at late agme, tier 9

[hard ivy]

#1038092680493801533

[pearl walrus]

Post your question there

[mortal ginkgo]

sometimes it looks like they are connected but actually not. try rebuilding them

if you are going vertically you need pumps

[clever pier]

FICSIT does not approve of any kind of renewable power

although I guess the geysers can be seen that way

tim sweeney is doing one good thing, fighting to break apples monopoly on app store on ios

[mortal ginkgo]

ADA clearly states that Ficsit only cares about exploitation.

Sun cant be exploited as it naturally provides power by giving it away, simply put.

It is obvious that company changed direction after they found SAM probably in other planets but this gets to spoiler section.

off topic and I dont answer personal questions. thank you

[spark ruin]

[mortal ginkgo]

Some bros in internet is just.. not satisfactory.

ask in #1038092680493801533 so you can provide pictures. pumps dont need to be chained. they dont add up to each other.

[peak harness]

How about dimensional engery steeling

[south sinew]

APA basically does that

[prisma thicket]

That's what Alien Power Augmenters do

[peak harness]

like making drone and sent it into other parts of the planet so it could extract ores and other raw metrerial

[mortal ginkgo]

ya. Alien Power bois are literally that. Exploiting alien stuff.

[peak harness]

How about Somersloop duplication by shooting it with 1 Terawatt of power for 1 hour straight?

[mortal ginkgo]

you dont need to extract ores from other places. current map provides infinite supply of many nodes.

[mortal ginkgo]

waiting for an hour is unfun.

[south turret]

Hey quick question, im currently in exerimental and when dismanteling stuff with a full inventory the materials just get deleted and no crates appear with the materials in it... am i overlooking something?

[peak harness]

Yeah i just bored and one to use my noggin to think of an idea

[mortal ginkgo]

I get crates spawned for me. check map to see where they end up.

[south turret]

ok thanks, because for me they just dont appear (or maybe all in the same spot so the map just shows one)

[pearl walrus]

Yes

[mortal ginkgo]

np. I got a crate spawned in 0.0.0 location so thats a thing too. but map gives their location surely

[peak harness]

It is funny that you can realistically beat the game in 180 hours if you use all of your brain power and dont think about ecstatic

[mortal ginkgo]

share some images of your setup

[peak harness]

Truly the pioneer that Ficsit want

Helping humanity in under 8 days of playing

[past cairn]

Am I stupid, why can't I make a hypertube vertical

[mortal ginkgo]

another info, in experimental the crate spawns right beneath you, not where the building was. I think its a new option that is toggled on by default

[south turret]

oh damn didnt know thanks, but well I just dismanteled a bunch of coal plants and well their materials all were gone no new chest on the map or under me, nothing so yeah guess ill wait for the full release. Also this one might be older but wasn't the jump height much higher in the earlier experimentals? (took a bit of a break recently)

[mortal ginkgo]

it happens I guess. Some people reported jump height increase too but I assume it was a bug.

[pearl walrus]

Add some more

[south turret]

ah I see, really enjoyed being able to jump on pipelines and splitters tho

[past cairn]

Anyone got any ideas? 😦

How? R doesn't do anything and scrolling just rotates it

[pearl walrus]

Have you tried seeing a doctor about this issue?

[spark ruin]

dont even bother to ask
he wont, cuz he is just a troll with time to burn

[hard ivy]

click once, then rotate and it tilts

[clever pier]

start the hypertube flat then attach it to the wall, that worked for me

it goes through a 90 degree bend upwards

[pearl walrus]

You should be seeing a trained professional

[past cairn]

Ah amazing thank you.

Why can't I place it on the side of foundations?

[hard ivy]

you need wall supports for that

[clever pier]

have you tried adding lubricant

[past cairn]

I can't see "wall supports" in the builder?

[clever pier]

works for me on 4 meter foundations

[hard ivy]

awesome shop

[clever pier]

use packaged crude oil

[past cairn]

of course.. 😂😂😂

[clever pier]

https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/553550313533997057/1378358632097251368

hypertube going straight up a wall

[past cairn]

I just didn't have the items yet

[clever pier]

foundations I mean

I'm trolling you, machines don't need lubricant

[lament vault]

I wonder how are the cables able to support such massive power going through them?

[spark ruin]

for the same reason you keep trolling everyone on this server ?

[clever pier]

oxygen not included has wires that burn out if too much current goes through them. I'm glad we don't have that in satisfactory

caterium probably allows room temperature superconductors to be made

[lament vault]

ngl current mod would be kinda fire but I get why vanilla doesn't have it

[spark ruin]

haha, sure

[clever pier]

you'd need many more types of wire to handle different currents and even bigger power towers

[jovial oracle]

Time to target 1 TW power.

[twilit remnant]

guy while using trains i found out that during the unloading phase the station doesnt allow to let materials go out. this become a problem beacause every cycle i cant get some resource i got which they keep stacking in the station

[hard ivy]

use an industrial container between the platform and the factory

on both sides

and connect both belts between the container and the platform

but even with this, you won't get 2 full belts per platform through

[peak harness]

If you are insanse

I have a gane for yiu

Wire my factory.com

Where you give you a bunch of output and you need to wire then input

[clever pier]

no such domain

[peak harness]

Before the whole energy sistem shutdown

[peak harness]

You sure about that?

Hahah yeah

It not exist, i just wanna make a joke

[clever pier]

it desont matter that theres a gap, the freieght station tells you the total throughput per minute including the load and unload if you open it

you'll never quite get 3600 per minute with mk 6 belts but you can get close

[hard ivy]

with ore (stack size 100), you can get up to 1793/min/platform

[clever pier]

zachtronics has a bunch of puzzle games like this, Shenzhen i/O is sort of like the game you are describing

they also have a factory game infinifactory

[winter hill]

I am SO excited for 1.1

✨

[prime crane]

anyone knows a good tutorial for a big fuel power plant that produces like 20.000w and doesn't include blenders

[hard ivy]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=nP1WlIg6Rg5Qhzh7Piix

[prime crane]

this is actually way helpful than a video

thanks

[hard ivy]

regarding canister management: the ratio for water packager:DPF refinery:fuel unpackager is 1:1:1. build all 3 in a line/blueprint and loop back the empty canisters for each refinery individually. do not merge them.

[prime crane]

alr ill try to understand when im in-game

[stoic mountain]

Do you guys have distribution centers/train hubs or just send things from factory to factory

[hard ivy]

Neither. All my factories turn raw ores into a final product. I do not move items between factories

[pearl walrus]

Megafactory enjoyer🤙

[hard ivy]

not really. I have like a dozen differnt factories. more like independency enjoyer

[stoic mountain]

I just have factories turning raw ores into simple products and send them to where they are needed but i dont know if i want a center where the resources are sent to before being sent to their factories or just to send them directly to the factories.

[clever pier]

factory to factory with three seperate loops that don't connect. I just use belts to take stuff from one train to the next platform to move stuff between the different loops

[stoic mountain]

I like trains so i might just build a hub so i can have more trains

[jade glade]

if I play on a save which was created on early access, is it automatically switched to 1.0 ?

[hard ivy]

if you load it in 1.0, yes

until you load it, no

[boreal musk]

if you want to play in old saves, you might want to fix something cuz some of the nodes in the map are different

[static surge]

same

[clever pier]

I also have a few point to point A-B tracks with a single train where its a bit too long for a belt but not high enough volume to need a loop

like taking sam ore out of the big cave to a processing factory on the shore outside the cave

i did have a factory inside the cave but it got too big so I moved it outside

[zenith pecan]

Oh god, the part I've been dreading is about here, 12300 bauxite & 4920 coke have finally arrived in the dunes 😱 🥶

[clever pier]

should I build an elevated train line through the middle of an active particle accelerator?

[zenith pecan]

Will it go without clipping?

[clever pier]

i think its big enough if you get the right angle

[cunning ingot]

u gotta used diluted packaged fuel rather than diluted fuel recipe

instead of a blender it just ends up being two packagers

does anyone know how many smelters u need to smelt every ore

[prime crane]

what if i use the things that multiply. i have a ton of them. because i don't lnow if i have diluted packaged fuel recipie

[cunning ingot]

wdym

somersloops?

to check if u have the recipe press n search up packaged fuel and read through ur possible recipes if u got one called "diluted packaged fuel" thats the one u want

[pearl walrus]

Its nit bad cause you end up with tons of fuel, but i'd retain the sloops for more important stuff then rubber and plsatic

[prime crane]

actually i have a pretty big farm that needs plastic and rubber

so ill just stick to these

[clever pier]

why build 20,000 watts all at once before you need it?

I just expand power as I run out

[hard ivy]

plastic and rubber are actually best made from fuel

[clever pier]

you can finish the game on 10 MW

[hard ivy]

4.5-ish actually

or even less with batteries

[clever pier]

yeah its just a bit faster with 10MW

[prime crane]

im out and im 6000watts behind

[clever pier]

dod

doh

[pearl walrus]

Im making a massive power plat so ill never have to br limited again, so thats nice, being able to build as much as you want

[clever pier]

but you're making it before you've even unlocked blenders?

[pearl walrus]

No im done woth alls stages

[clever pier]

its far easier to build later once you have turbo fuel and rocket fuel

so why not use blenders and rocket fuel?

[pearl walrus]

Because i wanted to build a uranium power plant, with absurd power numbers, that seemed fun to me so I did that

[clever pier]

ok

[boreal musk]

you can make your own poor man's blender for packaged fuel

just make a bp for it and youre golden

since its 1:1:1 ratio

[pearl walrus]

Yippueee

[sturdy mural]

guys how should i make uranium power? do i bring everything to one spot? or should i be fine making cells at one spot, and then delivering them at another

[timid rune]

up to you

[pearl walrus]

I make cells right before the rods because its 1to1

[timid rune]

really depends on what scale of nuclear power you are after

I reckon cells + rods can be made at the same place as Floxie says

[sturdy mural]

yeah but

how do i get uranium to the spot

[timid rune]

trains/drones

[sturdy mural]

i'm thinking of placing reactors next to water cuz, yk they need water

[pearl walrus]

Depends on you, I started with trains got mad and now i use a belthighway

[sturdy mural]

how do i fuel the drone tho

[pearl walrus]

Fuel/turbofuel/plutrods

[timid rune]

setup a rocket fuel or turbo fuel distrbution network to start with!

[pearl walrus]

I did the same, I wouldnt recommend the left edge of the map though caus theres more fake water then real water

[naive pendant]

Use drones. Fuel the drones with drones. Ooops all drones.

[sturdy mural]

WAIT
how do drones work
you can asssign a drone to only go between one station

but can't you make it so every fuel needing station has a drone taking fuel from an empty port?

[pearl walrus]

Ye you make little hubs that have one drone station that supplies al the other ones with fuel

[stone bridge]

Did you know that when you do the tutorial you get the Pionner Obligatory Onbording Program, witch for short is POOP

[timid rune]

I am using the SW Corner of the map

[pearl walrus]

Aight

[naive pendant]

@sturdy mural There’s a reddit post describing drone stuff in detail w common setups. The “one-to-many” drone setup is commonly used for fuel distribution.

[sturdy mural]

did you know that if you drop your weapon in front of a hog it will not spare you and just ram into you anyways?

[stone bridge]

did you know that if you have full health and you fall from what eve hight you survive

[boreal musk]

save the day abbreviated as STD

[stone bridge]

Hehheheheehh

[sturdy mural]

so thats why there are so many overpowered creatures

[timid rune]

I will need either 340 or 850 water extractors

[stone bridge]

that is a big difference in numbers...

[hard ivy]

100% and 250% probably

[timid rune]

yep

[boreal musk]

id go former if i have enough powershards for it

or if you automate it

[hard ivy]

with shards automated, there's no reason not to do 250% tbh

it's just 34% more power but 60% fewer machines to place

[timid rune]

I have 5 storage container worth of shards around before I deleted the setup

idk how much I have left lol

[pearl walrus]

Why delete it youll always need them😭😭😭

[timid rune]

I replaced it with a 60/min superposition oscillator setup

which in hindsight wasn't a very good idea haha

[lime ermine]

Anyone have a name for the bean like bug thing in the purple forest to the south? Just saw one after 200 hours

[pearl walrus]

Lol

[sturdy mural]

i just built 5 km of rails??

[pearl walrus]

Its nice that its a imple setuo though, you jzst need coal and crytal🤙

[sturdy mural]

i made 2 rail segments

[tall lantern]

because you've built something wrong somewhere. not enough info to go on

make a #1038092680493801533 post with images of the setup and the problem parts

[sturdy mural]

don't build 400 pumps

[pearl walrus]

He has go look its hilarious

[tall lantern]

in that case, stop asking here 😛

[spark ruin]

because you dont want to be helped

[tall lantern]

just read the thread, and yeah you've been given plenty of advice

and told that pumps are useless when put right next to each other

were you tho

[sturdy mural]

guys how could i get rid of excess sulf from Uranium Cells

[tall lantern]

you were told to put them within 10m of the producing building, and within 20m of the previous pump

[timid rune]

sulf?

[tall lantern]

and not to chain 'em like that

[last jungle]

if sulf=sulfur just make black powder and nobelisks or smth

[last jungle]

id assume u have coal ore for that

[tall lantern]

you can probably use it somewhere in the nuclear chain, whatever "sulf" is

[last jungle]

i assume he means sulfur

i know no other material

[tall lantern]

I assumed sulphuric acid

since the solution to excess raw material is generally just don't bring so much in

[sturdy mural]

i meant acid

sulfuric acid

[last jungle]

ok then idk what to make with that

[timid rune]

instant scrap maybe haha

[tall lantern]

why do you have excess?

[sturdy mural]

byproduct

[tall lantern]

from?

[hard ivy]

How?

[sturdy mural]

encased cells

[tall lantern]

encased uranium cell also uses sulphuric acid, so just work it back in

[hard ivy]

Put it back in?

[tall lantern]

same as you would with aluminium water

[sturdy mural]

50 uranium + 15 concrete + 40 Acid -> 25 Cells + 10 Acid

[timid rune]

yeah just gotta feed it back in using a priority junction

[tall lantern]

so for every 4 of those, you can make a 5th fed just from the byproduct

[sturdy mural]

how ??

[tall lantern]

or mess with fluid priority nonkiness

but as always, it's more stable to just not mix fresh and byproduct

[hard ivy]

Or use the alt. It uses sulfur, not acid

[timid rune]

I am using Infused U cell

which is argurably better based on the rarity of Uranium

[lime ermine]

You could use it to make leeched ingots of some sort if you have the alts

[tall lantern]

eh

it works, but somewhat wasteful, like making wet concrete in your aluminium

[lime ermine]

Or just package and sink it like I do

[hard ivy]

Or package and priority merger and reuse

[sturdy mural]

oka yeah infused seems better

like personally

wait guys
do i make 5 fuel rods?

[lime ermine]

I prefer the alt that's made in a manufacturer IDK the name

[sturdy mural]

cuz idk if its enough

[frozen ingot]

what exactly is that wasting? 🤔

[sturdy mural]

its the Infused one

[last jungle]

dude why arent there half walls in the game

[lime ermine]

Each reactor uses 0.2/min, do with that what you will

[sturdy mural]

thats 100% oc?

[lime ermine]

Yes

[sturdy mural]

how much water for it btw?

[tall lantern]

the extra sulphur (and water) you're bringing in to make that extra acid

[frozen ingot]

🤔

i think we're thinking iabout different things then

[tall lantern]

well, same deal with the concrete

[lime ermine]

240/min at 100%

[frozen ingot]

wet concrete is just water and limestone. so if you're using it in aluminum, you're just using byproduct water, probably

no sulfur involved, surely

[tall lantern]

if your actual plan is "I want aluminium and concrete" then sure, fine. But if it's just "I want to make aluminium" then there's no need to go the wet concrete route

[tall lantern]

yes, this was back to the original sulphuric acid

[boreal musk]

you can go for wet concrete to burn aluminum water byproduct, if you dont want to do recycling

[sturdy mural]

okay so a single reactor is
0.2 fuel/min
240 water / min
and... 0.5 waste /min?

[frozen ingot]

yeah i do recycling now, since i've figured out how to efficiently recycle the water, but i used to use wet concrete back in the day just for simplicity

[green fiber]

more like 10/min

[tall lantern]

tad more waste than that

uranium's 50 per rod IIRC

[sturdy mural]

so 10 waste /min

[lime ermine]

Yes

[frozen ingot]

and yeah, there's a need to the wet concrete route if that's the case

[sturdy mural]

alright

welp time to go from 5 fuel cells / min to 50 cells /min cuz i hate myself :3

wait no

5/min

[timid rune]

I am going for 50 rods/min and it has been quite a blast to build it out

[sturdy mural]

can you even squeeze out 5k uranium /min?

[timid rune]

you need 2083.3333 Uranium/min for 50 rods/min

[sturdy mural]

what?

[timid rune]

(and a lot of quickwire lol)

[pearl walrus]

Why not add the last 0.5 rods😭😭😭

[timid rune]

50.4 I think 😛

[hard ivy]

yeah it's 50.4

much nicer numbers than 50

[pearl walrus]

Mb

2100 uran which is the entire map <3

[clever pier]

make a new save without mods or no one can help you

[steady glade]

does the work pressure in pipe networks emanate from machines and buffers, or do pipes have their own?

[clever pier]

he has a bunch of mods installled with no idea if they are compatible

[steady glade]

and followup question, could i not make a water tower without the top buffer?

[spark ruin]

🤣

[clever pier]

wtf are you taking about?

mods can break the game if different mods clash with each other

[spark ruin]

stop trying

[clever pier]

you made the bugs by installing so many mods and not checking if they are compatible

[green fiber]

Ore? Only with alchemy

[steady glade]

on behalf of coffee stain and every other dev out there

[clever pier]

yeah can a mod ban him

[green fiber]

Oops DC moment, didnt scroll

[clever pier]

back to unlocking teleporters

[spark ruin]

kind of begining to hope so...

[steady glade]

i dunno how old you are or how many games you've played, buit any and every moddable game tells you not to report bugs occuring with mods installed

[clever pier]

installs a bunch of mods before then understand the game, has no idea if they are compatible with each, blamesthe game dev when nothing works

insert stick into own bike wheel meme goes here

"why would devs do this?"

[pearl walrus]

Haahaha

[spark ruin]

🤣

resident entertainer

[clever pier]

prove it, make a new save, connect a water gen to a single coal gen then show us the peipes

[spark ruin]

none of which you will do BTW

[clever pier]

anew save without mods

[spark ruin]

cuz you are just a troll with time to burn (not referring to eskatonia BTW)

[green fiber]

Work pressure is innate to pipes.

Machines only make fluid and push it into the pipes

[pearl walrus]

10m innate headlift!!!!!

[last jungle]

time to use my full storage container of rods for modular frames for versatile frameworks

[green fiber]

Different from work pressure, but yes, machines also apply 10m head lift

[pearl walrus]

Hea hea

[daring reef]

2 stages of struggle in satisfactory first is where do I get metal ore from
2nd is how do I turn this into hmf and nuclear pasta

[last jungle]

mine is 1.5

my screws are nowhere

[surreal ingot]

I’m on 1.6, what year am I in

[last jungle]

actually 1.5 is prob "how do i transport my steel beams to my versatile framework assembler"

suspicously relatable rn

[clever pier]

yep..... given up and blocked them

[last jungle]

i dont know

[spark ruin]

yeah, blocked

you know

i'd whish that blocking someone meant that their messages are COMPLETELY gone

but, i guess discord doesnt allow for nice things

[clever pier]

just imageine them trying to work out the pipes in phase 5 with the excited photon matter

[last jungle]

hey dont blame a version 1.0 game for having bugs

[dense violet]

Man I love my perfectly working pipes that I, at some point, got help with making them function in a sane fashion. ❤️ love them pipes

because I learned from others. And took advice.

[clever pier]

im building pipes right now.... and filling them with lovely fresh water

and nitrogen and nitric acid and oil

[last jungle]

h2o best liquid imo

why did that rhyme

[clever pier]

nitrogen is number one

[pearl walrus]

I just love when crafting aluminum ingots just works and doesnt cause any problems😍

[clever pier]

no headlift worries

[dense violet]

hydrogen is number 1

[last jungle]

is hydrogen considered a liquid

[velvet idol]

where my liquid biofuel enjoyers at

[last jungle]

not in water form

[clever pier]

at absolute zero it is

[pearl walrus]

Exiled

[dense violet]

a fluid in any case

[finite latch]

all cases but head lift

[clever pier]

if we had hydrogen in satisfactory it would be a fluid with no headlift needed

[pearl walrus]

A gas is also a fluid so the question is kinda redundant

[last jungle]

helium 🗣️

[sturdy mural]

guys is 1 locomotive for 5 cargo enough?

[clever pier]

yes

[sturdy mural]

wait no for 6, one of em is fluid

[clever pier]

it might slow down a bit on hills but it will get there

[boreal musk]

even 8 car 1 loco is enough if theres no elevation

[last jungle]

are there half walls in the game

[boreal musk]

no

[sturdy mural]

what if a lot of elevation
do i go 2 engines?

[pearl walrus]

Yep

[sturdy mural]

okay, so i need to put a station AND an empty spot for them before freight?

[boreal musk]

pretty much

[finite latch]

did the original stairs disappear? or am I just not finding them

[boreal musk]

they are removed

[sturdy mural]

original stairs?

[finite latch]

there used to be a stair block that could stack and make a staircase in a single foundation space.. but I guess we can't go up and down in that small of a space yet

[sturdy mural]

ladders? hypertubes?

[finite latch]

ladders are gross.. I guess I could hypertube it.. the yet was to imply it will become an elevator so whatever I do, its temporary

[zenith pecan]

I remember that block, it wasn't amazing, the stairs were too shallow.

[finite latch]

never said it was amazing lol it was just slightly better than a hole in the factory though

[hard ivy]

Aren't there other stairs now?

[finite latch]

not that will fit in a one foundation space.. you can't fully turn

[zenith pecan]

There is that, you can get decent stair wells made up with the catwalk stairs now, they're much steeper than the old ones.

[finite latch]

headlift maybe

[finite latch]

catwalk stairs still need 1.5 foundations square

[zenith pecan]

True, the tightest you can do with the catwalk stairs is 1 foundation by 1.5.

[hard ivy]

Ignore them. They've been spamming the same question for like 2 weeks and refuse to listen to any advice

[zenith pecan]

I still prefer them over the old stairs though.

[finite latch]

the answer to everything is headlift lol

[hard ivy]

Sometimes it's sloshing instead

[zenith pecan]

That said, to reduce the number of turns I tend to do stair wells as 1x2, so two continuous stair sections cover 8 metres in height, resulting in fewer "landings" , or have a 2x2 with the stairs snaking around a column in a spiral.

[boreal musk]

elevator removed that problem now (and we can finally transfer power within floors neatly)

[finite latch]

yea, I am just gonna either have to rethink or wait for elevators.. the factory is tall/skinny.. not a lot of room to play with

[clever pier]

no body waste your time on ittheberke197, people tried in detail to help him in and question and help thread and he refuses to actually try anything people suggest

make a new save without mods

[zenith pecan]

The elevator was promising, but the 196 metre height limitation prevents me using it effectively for my power station, the one place where having it would have been awesome, the four towers are 600+ metres tall 😦

[clever pier]

they have like 18 mods installed andno idea if compatible

[boreal musk]

theres actually a mod that removes elevator height limit

which is amazing

[zenith pecan]

I don't use mods, updates can risk bricked saves 😦

[boreal musk]

you should go to the dark side thats why you backup save files

[hard ivy]

It might get removed for 1.1 stable considering people complained about it. Or at least increased

[boreal musk]

ppl complained?

its called a mod for a reason

[sturdy mural]

maybe you could snap elevators?? like how you can get rid of ...~40m high belt lift with a floor hole?

[boreal musk]

oh wait you talk about vanilla limit

[zenith pecan]

Yeah, if they do change the limit then I'm so adding lift shafts to the power station 😄

[zenith pecan]

Wrong kind, I'm talking about the personal elevator, not the conveyor ones, I've actually managed to snap a more than 1km length of conveyor lift as a joke before.

[boreal musk]

but yeah its fair point since 196m can be very limiting for each floor that are more than 5-10 foundation tall

[atomic notch]

get limited lol

[sturdy mural]

yeah, i'm talking about the elevator too
i just compared it to the belt lift

[atomic notch]

you prolly messed up somewhere

[lime ermine]

Bro we tried to help you in your post like 30 minutes ago

Where did that even go

[atomic notch]

rage bait lmao

[green fiber]

Pipes have a speed limit just like belts.

Shoving in more wont make em fill faster

[atomic notch]

they were prolly right

[lime ermine]

Because you refused to make the changes we were suggesting to help you

[pearl walrus]

If yall just didnt take part in the rage bait he would have been silent by now

[zenith pecan]

Ahh sorry, I misunderstood, I do with unlimited snapping could be done between the floor sections with the personals.

[solid mason]

what is your all favorite starting location?

[atomic notch]

somewhere close to iron copper and limestone

[hard ivy]

both deserts

[green fiber]

MASSAGE-2(AB)b

[lime ermine]

-Kzzt-16-16-16

Glass

[clever pier]

eastern desert

[marble socket]

Never quite gotten far enough in that game to know what the hell was going on xD

[clever pier]

itheberke187 needs to rub SAM ore on his nipples. that always unblocks pipes

also make the laxative inhaler in the equipment store

[kindred pumice]

Steal bank money

[clever pier]

its 30% off on humble store

its been 50% off before in sales

just have to wait

[kindred pumice]

Tape "kinguin"

That's a site which regroupmany games with all prices available

If u have 0 money, ask parents, work if you are 16yrs/+ idk

[glass ivy]

Why are we still in May!... Can June hurry up already, I want 1.1. 😂

[kindred pumice]

What 1.1 will add ?

pump ?

[clever pier]

rule 8 kinguin is not a legit key seller

[kindred pumice]

Ah ?

[glass ivy]

Many additions and updates.

[kindred pumice]

Every x meters you need to place a pump ( need electricity )

[clever pier]

1.1 adds personal elevator lift, trains improvements, some new decorative pieces, unlimited nudge, vertical nudge and a few more

ignore him, he won't try anything people suggest

[kindred pumice]

I don't understand nothing :x
What's going on

[clever pier]

like actually building a simpler setup in a diffferent area of the map and getting that to work first

no you didn't.... we made a bunch of suggestions you ignored

but you won't disable mods or try building a simpler setup elsewhere

and you have pumps above your refineries for no reason

[lime ermine]

The lore is very vague until later on but it's so crazy when you start trying to figure it all out

[marble socket]

Payday vibes

[glass ivy]

I'm just jumping in here and haven't followed the history, backstory or trend. as eskatonia you need to troubleshoot the cause... If a simple setup does not work, then there is either a Mod error or conflict, or there is an issue with your game files... Process of elimination is key. Just curious, How do you know it's not the mods? What is your current building setup that is not working? Have you tried to re-place your pipes?

[spark ruin]

dont bother : )

[clever pier]

look in the questions and help thread to see everything thats already been suggested

[sterile blade]

#1378353850209275904 message

[clever pier]

the save file is a total mess , 18 mods enabled, cheats to unlock everything early... they don't understand anything because they haven't actually played the game

play the game from start unlocking things the proper order and you'll actually understand the game

no I can see from their screenshots they've unlocked stuff out of order

stuff that needs aluminum and they can't make aluminium

and a 100xawesome tickets mod

which is fine, but then don't complain you don't understand the game

[glass ivy]

Okay thanks, I saw the screenshot. No comment! 🫡 🤦‍♂️

[kindred pumice]

Guys i have a new solution for nuclear waste :
#screenshots message

[clever pier]

build it underwater for added fun

you can place platforms underwater in some places

[clever pier]

have you calculated how many hours that will take to fill?

[kindred pumice]

I have my mind clear for 113 days

Yes xDD

[clever pier]

113 days of real time?

not 113 in game days?

[kindred pumice]

25 waste /minute* 7 (nuclear ) * 60 -> time by hours
*24 : times by days

You divide the total capacity of the stockage build by that

If the server isn't turn off, that's real time

[lime mural]

wait are you talking about burning rods ?

[clever pier]

i hate the feeling of it building up

[lime mural]

for nuclear reactors?

[clever pier]

even if I have plenty of storage

[kindred pumice]

nuclear waste idk the name in english man

[sterile blade]

There's 2 kinds of Nuclear Waste ^^

[lime mural]

lmao i can’t tell if your joking cause you said the exact word

[kindred pumice]

:x

Bad english knowledge i guess

[lime mural]

also i like your Leblanc pfp they really did her justice with her new story too

[kindred pumice]

I think about change it into my actually man but yh she's badass

[clever pier]

https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/556448894993563659

[kindred pumice]

I would saiy it taked 2 hours ( approxy) to build that

1000 containers

[clever pier]

with blueprints it should be quicker

[kindred pumice]

yeah but i have a problem idk i can't save a blue print

[clever pier]

weird

[kindred pumice]

I build a thing, give it a name, a repertory, an icon but nothing

[hidden sparrow]

be respectful jeez

[sterile blade]

Reminder that this server has #rules about being polite to one another

[kindred pumice]

#dedicated-servers message

[hidden sparrow]

you shouldnt need a rule to not act like an ass to other peoples

[clever pier]

ah you are playing on a dedicated server? I never tried tbhat

[kindred pumice]

Yep, with a fried

[sterile blade]

Dedicated Servers rhymes with Dedicated Bugs

[clever pier]

don't fry your friends

[lime mural]

i didn’t know there was a dedicated either

[sterile blade]

It's the server dedicated to collecting all the bugs

||Jokes aside, dedicated servers unfortunately have the highest concentration of bugs for many reasons||

[kindred pumice]

🤷‍♂️

[clever pier]

I have four trains on a really long loop

[kindred pumice]

I have 5 neurons, better than your trains

[clever pier]

how do I stop them bunching up after running for a long time and keep them spaced out

[kindred pumice]

boom

[clever pier]

guess I could just make more trains

[kindred pumice]

That will be worse xD

Trains will always regroupe if you don't have perfect distance to spaced out

Create maybe a new trafic lane unconnected

2 train tack

Idk if you can understand my broken english

[clever pier]

or create a new stop with no platforms and make two of them stop at that stop and two that don't

that would spread them out a bit more I think?

because they'll take different amounts of time

[sterile blade]

Can't you change how long they dock at stations for?

[kindred pumice]

Could spreak them out yeah but that's not 100% sure ( depend of your train tack)

[clever pier]

is it one setting per train or per station

[kindred pumice]

And you will have less ressources

[clever pier]

you would need to give them different delays per train or they will bunch up again

its just one big one way loop

[sterile blade]

They should distance themselves by "minimum docking time", at the very least

[kindred pumice]

(by times, you add more time for the train, less ressources / times)

I have 3 trains and i'm not bother by that, they just wait in line if they want to pass

[sterile blade]

Long

[kindred pumice]

Like childs

prefer strawberries

Man hear me out

[clever pier]

blueberries frozen blueberries with yogurt

[kindred pumice]

goat cheese on pizza with strawberries

[clever pier]

wonder whjat pale berries taste like

[kindred pumice]

HEAR ME OUT

[clever pier]

probably like green grapes

[kindred pumice]

Can't eat solid food like pizza atm

[clever pier]

rotisserie plasma spitter with paleberry sauce and fried bacon agaric

[kindred pumice]

Just had a surgery ( -4 teeths ) 3 days ago

i want a pizza so bad..

Maybe, if i mix a pizza..

Could i...

[clever pier]

pizza with lizarddoggo milk cheese and brushy tailed hog salami

[lime ermine]

Why are both satisfactory and drg servers talking about eating the wildlife rn

[kindred pumice]

because it's GOOD

[clever pier]

its tasty

[glass ivy]

Survival

[kindred pumice]

Like pokemon imagine

Good meat

[clever pier]

if it wasn't so tasty we wouldn't talk about eating it

[kindred pumice]

If it leave, why not try it

[clever pier]

those plasma spitters got thicc haunches

really meaty looking

[kindred pumice]

you are really meaty looking

[clever pier]

one plasma spitter would feed you for like three months if you freeze all the meat

[lime ermine]

What would the spiders taste like

[clever pier]

crunchy

the stingers are the one life form on mirage I wouldn't eat

[lime ermine]

No

[clever pier]

the trains in this are like london buses. none for an hour then three come at once

[ivory condor]

[clever pier]

i made a very pretty scenic route train that goes through the canyons in the north of the eastern desert then across the entire spire coast

you can ride it for the low price of 10 awesome tickets

[ivory condor]

https://tenor.com/view/goodkid-pull-fail-gif-25460487

[clever pier]

spire coast is the prettiest part of the map

I've left it untouched apart from a train line

[ivory condor]

forgot gifs dont work

[lime ermine]

I have a small DMC factory there but that's it

[clever pier]

is the quantum encoder everyones favorite machine?

the animation is very nice

[ivory condor]

it was cooler pre-1.0, they nerfed the animations for the end game machines hard, same with nuclear

[clever pier]

you mean the private beta?

I never saw that

[ivory condor]

before then

[clever pier]

quantum encoder wasn't in 0.8

[ivory condor]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjQM8UXDZAw

[clever pier]

which version of the game is this?

I never saw this version before

[ivory condor]

also nuclear back then https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1CbfQ_pNG4

[clever pier]

so they had quiantum encoders in an earlier version then took them out then put them back in for 1.0?

oh ok it was in a really early alpha version

then removed until 1.0

according to wiki.gg

i only started playing with 0.7

[ivory condor]

yes it was basically compiled with the game but you had to data mine the recipes out of the game to place them, people did just that and built them, because it was included with builds for the game

[leaden turret]

[fry face meme] not sure if delorean or I forgot a satis acronym

[ivory condor]

they of course drastically nerfed the animations as you can see, same happened with the nuclear power plants to

[clever pier]

go play another game then

i hear theres other 3d factory games now

[lime ermine]

Dark matter crystal

[leaden turret]

well that explains it 😅

[lime ermine]

I painted the entire factory for them chrome though

[clever pier]

in the spire coast?

IO didn't think there was an coal there

btw its very funny you make diamonds from coal in a particle accelerator

[leaden turret]

DMC DMC factory? 😛

[clever pier]

thats not how it works

[lime ermine]

Yep

[ivory condor]

I was to, but I don't worry about it, he went off the rails some time back and I thought he was cool, turned out not so much, sad....

[leaden turret]

now put in a diorama of dante busting out some hip hop for a DMC DMC DMC DMC factory

[lime ermine]

🤣🤣🤣

[clever pier]

they should have put a delorean easter egg in the game instead of a cyberstuck

[ivory condor]

anyways discussions for off topic🙂

[clever pier]

game easter eggs are on topic

[ivory condor]

the quantum encoder animation was so much cooler back in the day, now it just spins and has lights on it, sad

[clever pier]

ok on topic, the particle accelerator looks awesome with the unpainted option

[unkempt blade]

I hope you achieve your allpaca dreams

I submitted bugs a couple times so I'm going to claim 70% of credit for the game

those other folks did great work too though

[kindred pumice]

p

[ivory condor]

I break the game in ways even the dev's don't see coming

[clever pier]

is your name josh?

[unkempt blade]

the name's Carter, Factory Carter

[ivory condor]

Well no but I seem to be able to break the game on a regular basis

[clever pier]

clearly you are a hideo kojima character then

[jade glade]

can I rename vehicles?

[clever pier]

yes

[fierce shore]

Ill say it is so weird and tbh freaking annoying to try and play this game in manual build mode for the most part.

I started a new game in the desert so biomass is a bit of a luxury so im trying to be as efficent as i can until i get my coal power going. Im close i just need a few hundred Reinf Plates and Rotors

[clever pier]

have you got the chainsaw and solid biomass?

[fierce shore]

i have

[sterile blade]

One day I will be rich and famous...

[clever pier]

and you've automated converting woods and leaves to solid biomass?

its much easier than it used to be before biomass converters had conveyor inputs

[fierce shore]

Yeah just not alot of wood or leaves in the desert lol

[clever pier]

theres plenty on the eastern side of the desert

where the small lake is

[hard ivy]

and western and southern too

just not in the middle

[clever pier]

i always run to the east side and start my first factory close to water

[fierce shore]

Ah, thanks ill go check it out, im almost at coal i have the miners down i just need to build the generators and water pumps

[clever pier]

trying to start right in the midddle of the desert? yeah thats pain

also rush tractors

[sterile blade]

I put it all in the S.I.N.K., where it belongs

[clever pier]

and use those to fill up on biomass

[sterile blade]

Animal biomass is the best biomass imo.
Very fast to collect and respawning

[clever pier]

i've seen people do runs where they only use animal biomass

[fierce shore]

tbh i probably have enough biomass if i use my animal parts but im so close to coal power that im like ill just grind this last little bit and get power setup

[sterile blade]

That's like 50% of my runs 😆 (I like to keep nature intact and whatnot)

[clever pier]

I like to leave nature intact except the swamp

nuke that place

[sudden flint]

dude

[sterile blade]

Just don't go there

[fierce shore]

i swear to god, im about to download a mod to get rid of the landwhales, they always get stuck on/in my factories and they dont drop animal parts

[sudden flint]

nah I just came across a friggin

[clever pier]

hard mode. start in eastern desert. go south to the swamp. you aren't allowed to leave the swamp until you have coal power

[sudden flint]

this giant stinger. I am scared

I hate them already wdym it's BIG NOW

AND IT CAN JUMP

NOOOOOPE

[zenith pecan]

I have done a bit of blasting in the swamp because the foliage would clip into the coking plant and its support structures, just a few hundred nuclear devices though: #screenshots message

[leaden turret]

[jade glade]

how can I choose fuel type for jetpack?

[hard ivy]

gear icon on the jetpack in the inventory

[jade glade]

yeah but I have only one fuel type there

[hard ivy]

then you can't use any other fuels right now

or it's a bug

[hard ivy]

which fuel is it?

[jade glade]

biomass

[hard ivy]

solid or liquid?

[jade glade]

[sterile blade]

Turn the bug into biomass; have fuel

[jade glade]

solid

it doesnt work on coal?

[hard ivy]

then you probably don't have any other fuel unlocked. the next ones require the fluid packaging milestone

[ivory condor]

Somebody should make a mod to give the landwhales a 10000x spawn rate, so when you look out your factory all you see is Mr. Beans everywhere

We can figure out via this route how to turn this game into a Mr. Bean base defense game

[clever pier]

you could just bounce from factory to factory across the constant mr beans

[ivory condor]

[iron patio]

hello, i have been running into an issue with my coal power plant, im using a manifold (at least i think) to distribute my 120 coal per minute into 8 coal burners that each consume 15 so the math is right. despite that, only the first 3 get capped on coal, the others run out. could anyone help? if anyone wants a picture of it to describe the situation, DM me since i can't send it here

[hard ivy]

did you use mk2 belts at least until the 4th generator

[iron patio]

yes

[reef forge]

i set up a truck just to move 15 cables a minute

[hard ivy]

did you wait at least half an hour since connecting the coal?

[iron patio]

wait for what

[hard ivy]

for the coal to fill up

[iron patio]

i tried manually filling each generator with 100, it still runs out

[hard ivy]

check if the miner(s) are actually producing 120/min

[iron patio]

omg im such an idiot, the belt that brings coal from the miner to the power is mk1 😭

oh no it was only mk1 on a tiny portion 😭

[hard ivy]

classic

[iron patio]

yup, thank you for accidentally making me realise this lol

[sudden flint]

It makes sense that coal doesn't work in biomass generators

but it still pisses me off

[clever pier]

they can make a tractor that burns any fuel but not a power generator

somehow the tractor can even burn plutonium rods

[sudden flint]

does it make waste?

[clever pier]

no

[sudden flint]

dang

yeah that's what I've been told to do when you get to nuclear

take uranium waste, make it plutonium

and then just sink it

[cyan garnet]

Sink the plutonium rods and/or use them in vehicles

Plu rods make excellent drone fuel

[clever pier]

someone was asking whats the easiest late game sink for awesome points in terms of setup and I reckon its trigons

only three steps to make them from raw sam ore and really high points

easy to scale up

and doesn't require particle accelerators or quantum encoders

[static surge]

1.1 in 10 days!!!!

finally i can make hypertube branches and overly long cannons to kill myself over and over unintentionally while trying to go somewhere

[sterile blade]

"Unintentionally"

Science requires sacrifices

[spice patio]

Or just cyclotron with hypertube branch for exit?

[plain marten]

why is my fps suddenly bad whenever i play satisfactory

[pearl walrus]

Did you build stuff? Maybe thats why🤙😎

[plain marten]

yes but i didnt add any stuff

and it happens even when im not near any big factory

[pearl walrus]

Go to #1038092680493801533 and create a thred tagges as troubleshoot there

[static surge]

That’s what I meant

[green beacon]

I saw a video of a priority splitter or Merger what ever is there also the same for pipes in 1.1 or not ?

[cyan garnet]

no, there is no priority splitter/merger for pipes as a distinct buildable item

[pearl walrus]

Yes therw is merge prio when you place pipe junctions vertically

[green beacon]

i know but that is pain in the ass to set up a priority junction would make it so much easier

setting up a priority merger for belts in normal is also possible without it at least as best as possible but that would make piping so much easier

[cyan garnet]

alternatively, build your pipe system such that priority junctions are not necessary in the first place

[languid field]

👋I haven't gotten satisfactory just yet; as I've been kinda just dancing around the $40 price range lol.. is it worth getting? I've tried the factorio demo and to be fair it was quite a bit of fun and I've recently watched a video on satisfactory that had me a bit eager and hesitant simuletaniously to get the game; any thoughts?

[green beacon]

sometimes you just need them

[cyan garnet]

i mean...this is the discord where all us degenerates who are obsessed with the game come to talk about it nonstop so you're not gonna get an unbiased answer lol

[green beacon]

got it for i think 14 if i am correct at a sale

[languid field]

🤷I'd just want the whole spiel of positives and negatives of the game from those who have experience lol

oh so I should wait for a sale then?

[green beacon]

Spiel ?

Deutsch*

[leaden ether]

THis is true and I think this is what Valves are supposed to be used for. THough they aren't nearly as exact as one might hope, I have used them to solve some flow issues that would have otherwise required major rebuilds to try to fix otherwise. (Still a priority pipe splitter would be awesome :D)

[languid field]

"Schpeel" is an alternative spelling of the word "spiel." It refers to a glib or persuasive speech, often used by salespeople or to describe a rehearsed or lengthy explanation intended to persuade or convince someone

[cyan garnet]

I think it's worth it at full price, personally

in terms of hours played per dollar or whatever

[green beacon]

yes but they have no use at making something go on priority.
I use the fluid sink and more mod so i have overflow valves which make it possible but with normal valves it's not possible to do that

have 741 Hours and 250h from them are from the last 3 months definitly worth buying

[reef basin]

you never do

[green beacon]

Aluminum

[reef basin]

is completely fine without

[hard ivy]

don't merge fresh and byproduct water

[leaden ether]

Well again sometimes unless you don't want to rebuild a huge section of factory to rearraange the output sources of the fluid to make it not necessary... you do.

[green beacon]

depending how you design it but without it's a hell of a work to get it working properly

[leaden ether]

I've only "needed" one twice in 600+ hours but sometimes... it would be really nice

[green beacon]

not everyone builds the same

[pearl walrus]

@hard ivy I didand it works fine🤙😎

[reef basin]

but the point is "not needed", meaning you don't need to use it to get a functional factory

[sullen gull]

Yeah, imo those who say not to recycle waste just have too many troubles with it. Works fine for me.

[leaden ether]

It is tricky at best. Sometimes need to arrange the machines creating the waste in such a way as to make getting rid of it smoothly. Then if you are short of waste and need to add some extra (water for example) from outside that piping to properly supply the machines that are using it... ooof. THe outside water will compete with the waste water and that is bad new.

That is an example where a priority valve would be a godsend.

[reef basin]

how do you do "priority valve" in a bi-directional system?

also we already have that - it's called vertical junction 😛

[leaden ether]

It's not and shouldn't be, You have two pipes of supply going into some piping and you want ALL of the fluid from one pipe and only underflow from the other.

[hard ivy]

a top up valve. if volume in pipe<x, allow fluid through until >x

[leaden ether]

Yeah I have used the vertical junction trick before 🙂 Required quite a bit of rebuild to accommodate it.

Thing is Overflow valves and underflow valves are common plumbing items and the game certainly precents opportunities to use them appropriately without having to resort to some shenanighans with machine levels and such. So yeah I'd be all for them.

[reef basin]

thing is, that's because irl we have variable flow and such, while in SF we don't really have that

[leaden ether]

But we do have need to control flow. And the existence of the Valve was an attempt at doing that, it works okay in some limited cases but is not super great.

[zenith pecan]

Welp, Now I can visualise how many refineries it will take to process the whole map's bauxite: #screenshots message , a lot.

[reef basin]

machines control flow

[leaden ether]

Not entirely, the example I gave is an example of uncontroled flow from two separate sources that we really do need to control better.

[reef basin]

split sources and targets

[leaden ether]

When the two mix, the flow gets erratic. And whiile sometimes it seems to settle down, I've found that every time I laod the save it goes erratic again

[reef basin]

there's a save-load bug

[leaden ether]

Yes, splitting the machines into single or pairs is part of the tricky part I mentiond above. But it's can be difficult or machine wasteful to get a perfect match. I really shouldn't HAVE to add 5 extra machines and under clock them by 90% each when a single underflow valve would solve it all.

[wanton stag]

is 1.1 out officially?

[hard ivy]

#announcements

[sullen gull]

I personally wonder if it is because people are pumping in more fresh than needed. You should only ever need "total needed for solution - waste = how much fresh to pump in". So, if you need 500 total for soultion production, and waste from scrap is producing 350, you ONLY want 150 coming from fresh.

The initial startup willl take a minute because no waste being produced, but then it takes off once it is.

With valves, it "should" be able to be done by having a heavy fresh line and junction off of that limited to 150, but, we know how valves are, sooo

[leaden ether]

THat is exactly us usecase for an underflow valve. And one of the few cases where the Valve object does work sort of. But it's not 100%. And really as greeny was saying, you need to arrange the machines in pairs or threes with one underclocked to make the output waste perfectly match the input needs of one or two machines to sink it.

[hard ivy]

it only works if the refineries are all running perfectly as designed. when production drops below that for any reason, it'll clog and will have to be restarted manually

[sullen gull]

Nope

And I say that because i have tested the hell out of it

When production stops (scrap, ingots, w/e get backed up) The production should stop producing waste. And, if done right, the pipes will already be full and no more waste can come in. And, water does NOT backfill into the refineries producing waste.

[hard ivy]

and that's what I did for my first few alu setups and I always had to set up a sink for the scrap otherwise i'd constantly have to flush the pipes

[leaden ether]

My biggest fluid headache atm is electrode aluminum scrap(*105 water/m output) to a water sink that takes 24m/s/machine

[sullen gull]

Once production starts up again, the refineries produce just as much as needed and the cycle continues.

[sullen gull]

But, as greeny said earlier, everyone builds different and want's they're pipes run a certain way, etc.

[hard ivy]

and what happens when bauxite supply stops?

it also deadlocks

[sullen gull]

Again, the machines stop producing. The recylce loop is already, again, full and should not allow any more to be introduced from fresh

At least that's how it's been working with my setup. And, I also been trying to do everything I can (fly around with hover pack, locking frame rates, etc) to try and reproduce this bug everyone keeps saying is there where apparently .5 is added or something everytime 🤷‍♂️ . Still can't seem to break it.

And, fyi, this is NOT me trying to say that I am better than anyone or what ever. I just think that there are a TON of personal opinions and propaganda on the matter that really confounds things for people.

[pearl walrus]

I have 25 refineries infront of me, they are all looping scrap water into the previous refinery, all of them work poerfectly, even though i change beltwork a couple hours back.

[scarlet lake]

do power lines connect with auto-connect?

[sullen gull]

Unfortunately no.

[scarlet lake]

[sullen gull]

But, with the amount of power poles/wall adapters that can be in a BP, make sense

[hard ivy]

every single time I did a setup that mixed fresh and byproduct water and had a constant fresh supply, it had issues. But when I switched to VIPs, not merging the waters, or packaging and priority merger, it all always worked

[scarlet lake]

but there goes my dreams of powered flooring

[sullen gull]

Pipes and belts usually only have one connection (sans mergers/splitters ofc)

[leaden ether]

In a lot of cases the the feedback loops are pretty well matched. I mean they did an amazing job overall and balancing things out as much as possible. but there are some other things (alt recipies especially) where they don.t and a lot of extra machines and underclocking is necessary to match the source and sink of fluids. It's those cases where underflow and overflow valves would be a godsend.

[sullen gull]

Lol, 100%, same reason I wanted it lol

[pearl walrus]

I had issues to untill i valved the freshwater supply to be half of mk2 pipes, leaving enough room for byproduct water to flow out

[leaden ether]

This is the current fix for my electrode al scrap refineries without redoing the entire thing. However, every reload of the game my scrap output varies from around 1145 up to a solid 1200/m.

The variation is due to the inconsistent side supply of water into the scraps water sink machines on every load of the game.

It's something you just can't rely on. More source or sink machines, paired with underclocked ones to specifically match inputs and outputs is the only real solid way right now.

[blissful violet]

What from these 2 is better:

• To make factories for an specific final product that includes the entire process in the same place/dedicated to that product
• Making large factories of non final products (Steel for example) and distribute the Steel to all factories that need it

Or if none is better, which is your personal preference 😀

[sullen gull]

I not usually the betting type, but I would wager all my coupons that I could get any recycle setup purring if any one wants to send me their save 😏

[hard ivy]

I don't think there is a "better" solution, but I always do #1

[blissful violet]

have you beaten the game/are in late game?
Bc thats what i thought but im at early game yet

[sullen gull]

I feel it all comes down to how you'd like to do your logistics. I do both, depending on resources near by and such.

[blissful violet]

good to know

[sullen gull]

And alts avaliable.

[blissful violet]

bc just thinking abt #2 gives me headaches lol

[hard ivy]

I beat the game twice and almost beat it like 4 more times

I do it like this because I can easily plan everything

[blissful violet]

[hard ivy]

with #2, you either throw all planning out the window and expand as needed or do rough planning

[atomic notch]

Why not both

[leaden ether]

I do something somewhere between. I don't distribute any low level items just higher level ones so each factory generally does it's own low level stuff but then trades goods. So an aluminum products factory, iron/steel, electronics etc. #screenshots message

[atomic notch]

Get a good pile goin

[leaden ether]

THough when first starting out, every factory provided all initially required resources. But around phase three I started grouping stuff.

[sullen gull]

But like, in this current save, I have a single quickwire plant, making like 2400+ iirc, that supplies quickwire to other facilities via drones. But then comes the logistics for drone fuel as well

[blissful violet]

another question for y'all experienced pioneers:
At any point of the game, the amount of ores available becomes so insufficient that it is needed to use all of them (of any given ore/liquid/gas) wisely? Or there are so many that it doesnt matter that a factory uses 50% of an ore?

[sullen gull]

Oof, wish you could esc through or disable the new messages in 1.1

[hard ivy]

depends on the scale you build

just finishing the game, absolutely not

[blissful violet]

thank god

[sullen gull]

You would likely never come close to utilizing all the ore unless going insanely huge with builds imo.

[hard ivy]

but if you decide on some huge project, you might run out of a resource. several, even

[leaden ether]

I realise they need to put those in there by law, but the user should have the ability to turn them off.

[blissful violet]

btw is there a point for megafactories other than doing them?

[leaden ether]

Gotta get that golden nut award! (1000 tickets) But just personal satisfaction.

[scarlet lake]

satisfaction

[blissful violet]

[leaden ether]

Speaking of which, at 656 hours, I am three tickes away from getting that trophy...

[sullen gull]

Lol, I feel a bit sad, I have not purchased a single trophy, like ever lol. And only just decided to worry about achievements through this save 🤣

[scarlet lake]

at 619 hours... II've already gotten it

[leaden ether]

I actually have not bought any of them yet myself. I am saving up the 1700 tickets necessary and just going to buy them all out at once.

[sullen gull]

Noice

[leaden ether]

Mainly because I have not made any sort of "awesome" base yet to display them 😄

[sullen gull]

Hahaha, totally feel that one 🤣

Gah, would also be awesome if you could 'sort' blueprints lol. And yes, I know you can organize via folders, but I forget alot and things aren't in alphabetical order at least 😭

[sullen gull]

Yeah, what @scarlet lake said. It's all personal preference.

[hard ivy]

they are sorted. in reverse alphabetical order. no, dont ask me why

[analog totem]

Bro why is my singleplayer game of satisfactory telling me the server is restarting. 😭

[scarlet lake]

I am currently building a cube designed to fit 453 rocket fuel generators... which is only temporary for future nuclear fuel. Megabases are EXTREMELY based on personal preference.

[leaden ether]

Having taken the middle route with the factory size. I am mulling over a replay where I either do the mega factory with everything done in a single central "city" or the exact opposite where ever item (or two) is it's own mini factory with a gonzo nuts transport system.

[sullen gull]

Oh, wow ... duh ... I didn't even notice... lmao.. Ok, never mind then, now that I realize that, not horrid 🤣

[hard ivy]

you might be playing a multiplayer session alone. I don't play multi so I can't say much else

[hard ivy]

also, they only sort upon save/game reload

[leaden ether]

Because even on a single machine it is a client/server achetecture. Several multiplayer capable games are made that way.

[tribal elk]

playing a "mostly" pragmatic run (some regard for clipping and aesthetics), i've only had use for 1 main blueprint

[sullen gull]

Nah, it's a standard thing. Basically restarting services for 'cleanup'. I used to ask the same question lol. You can change the interval in settings.

[tribal elk]

i wonder if blueprints are only ever useful for aesthetic builds

other than that one exception

[sullen gull]

Nope. Great for function as well

[tribal elk]

well i guess with tier 3 blueprints i could make proper refinery factories, but still

[sullen gull]

Yeah, that i noticed. New ones are at the top until reload, then get mixed in

[hard ivy]

you can fit 4 refineries side by side in a mk2

[sullen gull]

Yeah, space is a limiting factor sure, but each has uses.

[tribal elk]

that only makes 2 (3?) main blueprint's i'd ever use

[sullen gull]

LIke, I like making one for smelters/constructors, with a single wall adapter placed, just so that I can daisy chain them.

Just suck the BPD adds the extra bit of clearance. Nothing a bit of nudging won't fix though.

[tribal elk]

hmm. actually, i could make some variations of blender/manufacturer/assembler + smart splitter + sushi belt blueprints i could reuse a bunch...

[sullen gull]

If you find yourself doing the same repetitive tasks to machines (lifts/mergers/splitters, etc) attached and such, just take a bit of that time, whip up a bp that already has it done, and boom, tons of time saved in the long run.

[zenith pecan]

Repetative tasks are seldom an issue since I can knock out large builds quickly enough, sometimes through figuring plumbing is a first class swine.

[sullen gull]

The only 'issue' I have had with pumbing so far is how to make my runs look puurty 🤣

[zenith pecan]

This monster bauxite refinery is going to be a complete bitch, the number of refineries is uneven due to using the electrode/sloppy, and I'm not sure how well merging what would be different pipes will run.

[hard ivy]

build multiple separate setups and only merge their ingot outputs

[sullen gull]

This, 1000%

[leaden turret]

if you are concerned about the appearance of your runs, please speak to a proctologist

[zenith pecan]

They are sorta separate, the intake cluster is split into four groups of three refineries, each refinery pairs off into a single output, so the cluster has six pipes each with 480 alumina per pipe.

[sullen gull]

This is all I am needing to do the same as you are. Though, not all of those are going towards alu solution. Only 24.

[zenith pecan]

Trouble is the second setup, the refineries take in 180 each, and that is sixteen refineries per line (same amount of alumina total) but just meh.

The scale of the entire place is kinda, yeah-no, because it is taking up all the bauxite on the map.

[sullen gull]

The other 10 are for steemed sheets, one for sulfiric acid for the RF part, and one is for the 25th baux 'node' to take in the remaining 300

[sullen gull]

You you're also making copper ingots with pure right?

[zenith pecan]

Yeah but that is unrelated since it's the output of the second cluster that will simply leave the facility.

[sullen gull]

I personally chose to make them with the foundries. Much easier to manage via size and no water 🤣

[zenith pecan]

The problem is connecting the cluster of 12 refineries (each pushing 240 alumina) to the cluster of 16 refineries (each wanting 180 alumina) , the pipework isn't going to be fun.

[sullen gull]

Oh, sorry, forgot to post the link to the #screenshots message

[zenith pecan]

You can see the scale of the thing here #screenshots message

[sullen gull]

I feel like you're making the numbers harder. Imo, one sloppy @ 250% and two electrode clocked at 166.6666667% for every 500 baux

[zenith pecan]

Too many decimal places, the electrode running at that will short slightly.

Though, hmm, time to fuck with clocks.

Bah, doesn't work, 133.3333% just means it will just run ever so slightly too slow.

[sullen gull]

Lol, I'm aware of the scale 😏 #screenshots message

Only things missing are the other 23 baux nodes, which will be built out along the sides, And all that will be necessary for the 'after ingot' items

And, I sorry, had to turn exposure up a lot one due to swamp and dark 🤣

Better one since it got light out: #screenshots message

[thick vine]

Machines stutter on reload anyway, the small rounding error is negligible

[mortal ginkgo]

GUYS THE DOGGO CAME BACK! I didn't see the guy for like 2 weeks!

[sullen gull]

What'd they bring ya?

[mortal ginkgo]

The thing is, rocky desert didnt have berries so I couldnt tame the lil guy

All I could do was petting as I passed him by

But then I couldnt see him ever

[sullen gull]

Erm, you have tame before petting don't you? or no?

Never tried lol

[mortal ginkgo]

well you can just pet him, it makes him squake and runs away

[sullen gull]

Huh, never realized lol

[mortal ginkgo]

ok, got him a nice clousure

[unkempt blade]

I built a doggo house in my enclosure because they deserve nice things too

[mortal ginkgo]

I put some food and play thing wannabe stuff there.

He will be fine. He will be a good doggo

[unkempt blade]

I'm sure he'll return your kindness with lots of sluggos

[sullen gull]

Slugs? 😏

[mortal ginkgo]

I am expecting a Nuclear Waste lols

[mortal ginkgo]

slugs got one purpose in life brother

[sullen gull]

All up until making syn shards, then they're decorations! 🤣

[unkempt blade]

you put them on a conveyor circling around your hub and watch the pretty colors zoom by the way god and nature intended