satisfactory

[zenith pecan]

I don't have the sloops to spare tbh, in spite of the map respawning sloops after a patch, I used pretty much all of them in my power stations support tower which resulted in a colossal power boost.

[outer saffron]

nah i got factorys EVERYWHERE

[wicked nacelle]

I’d work on power to regain those sloops. Sam is the only thing in the game that NEEDS sloops because of how little there is

[outer saffron]

one location for each purpose

and i used cannons to travel between them all

[zenith pecan]

I don't really need to, it's not like I can't just build more.

Besides, I'm not ripping apart the support tower, the bloody thing took me six days to build.

[outer saffron]

most fun and fast way to travel

[lean goblet]

So how many Ballistic Warp Drives per minute is a good number to aim at?

The problem is you quickly need lots of Dark Matter Crystals

[unkempt blade]

while it may be fastest, the most fun is a factory cart bouncing on jump pads

[outer saffron]

lol

havnt tried it yet

[wicked nacelle]

I have drone ports at random coal spots over the map that just supply diamonds.

Crater lakes is good for cloudy diamonds

[prisma thicket]

I want to start a fresh run, what would you guys say is the best starting spot?

[lean goblet]

So you dont use Dark Matter Crystalization?

[lean goblet]

I like the Rocky Desert.

[wicked nacelle]

I use as much diamond based stuff and then use a priority merger to take what else I need from the alt that only uses Sam. And of course I prioritize the output crystals from other stuff first

[zenith pecan]

My favoured start is at the dunes.

[wicked nacelle]

My favorite is the one I haven’t done in the longest

[prisma thicket]

You like everything to be in the dunes lol

[wicked nacelle]

But once you have a jet pack and hypertube launchers it’s really not that large a map

[lean goblet]

Portals!

[wicked nacelle]

With the ability to just put down a blueprint hypertube launcher portals tend to take longer unless they’re right there

[lean goblet]

BIOFUEL

[zenith pecan]

I put an industry where the resources can be moved to the most easily, my last nuclear power station and all its support was in the grasslands and on top of the huge waterfall there.

[lean goblet]

oh thats nifty

[zenith pecan]

My current game has the blue crater pretty much filled with multiple towers generating 1.1Tw of power.

[wicked nacelle]

I’ve found that putting the generators near the factory is annoying. Either a 5 car train or 5 drones works great to put the burners wherever is convenient. Three for fuels two for waste

This game is so punishing for running water

[zenith pecan]

Not that bad, it is less painful if you keep your pipes level even if they are seven kilometres long, it makes keepin track of headlift simple.

[wicked nacelle]

No blueprints. Pipes are huge and don’t carry much.

Auto connect makes pipes a LITTLE better but it tries to make bad connections so much it’s often useless

[zenith pecan]

I do tend to route major logistics through a network of tunnels though rather than a mess of random and disorganised belts/pipes snaking all over the landscape.

[wicked nacelle]

A 2400 pipe and water extractor blueprints would go a long ways

[sullen gull]

Anyone use Satisfactory modeler?

[wicked nacelle]

Does it do anything the two webpages don’t?

Scim is the only thing I use

[sullen gull]

No worries, Was just noticing an oddness with adding a mk3 miner for Caterium ore is all.

[distant badge]

From what I can tell (not that I've used it), it lets you select recipes in production, so I can use the normal steel ingot recipe for, say, steel beams but also use solid steel ingots elsewhere in the same factory.
I think, anyway.

[wicked nacelle]

That could be handy sometimes

[sullen gull]

And yes, in the way of layout and organization me thinks. Though, it doesn't automagically calc the items needed for an end item, It's nice to have an 'offline' utility.

[quaint sorrel]

does anyone know if you can turn all of your walls to a single color?

[kind berry]

change the color swatch in the customizer menu

[sullen gull]

You can edit the standard Ficsit factory color swatch if you prefer, or you can color them individually with the customizer. (Standard key is X)

[quaint sorrel]

ive changed all of the ones at the top and walls never change

is it a glitch?

[young crest]

Satsftactory

[kind berry]

what color swatch are the walls painted with?

[sullen gull]

The only walls that will color 'nicely' are the standard ficsit walls.

[wicked nacelle]

Reload your save maybe?

[quaint sorrel]

they're currently the default orange color

also they are the standard walls

[kind berry]

and you changed the fiscit factory swatch?

[quaint sorrel]

ive tried all of the ones at the top

[sullen gull]

So, you've changed the FICSIT Factory Swatch, and the Project Assembly Swatch and it still didn't change?>

[quaint sorrel]

yeah it didnt work

it changes foundations and machines but not walls for some reason

[kind berry]

try painting the walls with those swatches just as a sanity check

[wicked nacelle]

Works for me

[sullen gull]

Or with any swatch for that matter.

[quaint sorrel]

aight ig

[kind berry]

also is this 1.0 or 1.1?

[quaint sorrel]

1.0 im not in experimental

also i just tried painting them and it just says "swatch is already applied"

[wicked nacelle]

Worked for me in 1.1

[quaint sorrel]

even though they're still orange

[kind berry]

as a further sanity check, can you provide a screenshot of your current swatch menu?

[sullen gull]

Can you take a screenshot of the customizer screen for us and post it in #screenshots :?

[quaint sorrel]

ill send it in screenshots rq

[sullen gull]

Great minds.

[quaint sorrel]

sent

should i just reload my save?

[kind berry]

yeah try reloading

[quaint sorrel]

aight

[sullen gull]

So, try changing the Project Assembly Swatch. That one still looks to be default

[quaint sorrel]

ill try that first

still orange

ima reload

works now ty guys lol

[kind berry]

first rule of tech support strikes again lol

[sullen gull]

I love how we all knew it was a 'thing' before IT crowd. Then they seemed to just 'notify' a semi-larger pop lol.

[quaint sorrel]

anyone know how to do this with the finishes?

[sullen gull]

I believe the finishes can only be used individually. As far as I know, you cannot use any finish as a 'standard' swatch.

I could be wrong though.

[quaint sorrel]

aw

i right clicked and selected everything and it doesnt work even when i reload sadly

and my factory is pretty big

guys i just realised something

if you build something new it has those selected finishes

and my factory isn't done being built so i barley got anything to put the finish on

[sullen gull]

I mean, given the scale, they tend to get pretty big: #screenshots message 😏

[outer saffron]

Yall if i have 20 refineris making turbofuel, total 600 a minute, how many gens can i run with that amount?

[prisma thicket]

I had 50 gens running on 375, so probably 75-80?

[sullen gull]

OC'd or not?

[outer saffron]

ocd? what is that

[sullen gull]

One gen uses 7.5 at 100% and 18.75 @ 250%

[prisma thicket]

Overclocked

[sullen gull]

Overclocked.

[outer saffron]

nah

but i could

[sullen gull]

So, then, 600/7.5

[outer saffron]

80??

man thats enough for my grandchildren

[atomic notch]

Wheres the guy who had 1200 gens

[sullen gull]

Heh, I have a 140x RF plant going in another save 🙂

[outer saffron]

and lets say i overclock

how much i need then?

[atomic notch]

80/2.5

[sullen gull]

18.75 per

[outer saffron]

crazy

[sullen gull]

So, 32

[outer saffron]

aight ty man

[prisma thicket]

Yah, 625 rocket fuel feeds 150 gens easily, or 60 overclocked. That was my blue crater setup for previous save xD 150 gens providing 37.5 GW of power. Not even that much compared to some of the setups of people on here.

[zenith pecan]

The blue crater, if you're happy bringing in the additional materials can yield a huge amount of rocket fuel.

[prisma thicket]

I mean, even with just what's there you can get pretty massive power setups. I think it was something like 3750 RF per minute just with the resources in the crater itself.

[zenith pecan]

With outside materials that aren't that far away, I managed 7200 RF, and there is an oil well still spare.

[prisma thicket]

Lol damn, guess that's how you wound up with over a TW of power out of there? xD

[zenith pecan]

That does include the support tower and a lot of somersloops (including respawns)

There are sixteen out of a normal possible max of ten power amplifiers on the ground floor of the support tower.

[prisma thicket]

The only things I slooped in my previous save were power shards and elevator parts xD Think I'll make slightly more liberal use of them this time around.

[zenith pecan]

Having sloops handy for a constructor when processing the slugs is fabulous! 😄

[prisma thicket]

Yah, without even hunting down all the slugs I have over 1600 power shards banked and a couple hundred in use lol

[zenith pecan]

That is the only reason I had enough shards to clock 720 fuel generators at 240%, I farmed so many slugs it's unreal.

[outer saffron]

@sullen gulli already finished half of the factory and now it makes 4k power

from 16 normal gens but i need to overclock them i think no?

[storm bluff]

Guess who has 27k uranium waste to deal with ?

[atomic notch]

Ima sloop pet coke and win the game off coal gens

[sullen gull]

shrug up to you. I usually do a coal plant out putting 9600. Have an aluminum factory I am working on to use all of the bauxite in the world and have 60 fuel gens overclocked making 37,500 if I recall.

[outer saffron]

so i overcloacked all 16 gens i have up rn and im on around 11k

[zenith pecan]

My old power station would create that in about 25 minutes 😛 #math-and-meta message 🤣

[outer saffron]

thats insane for me

my last power capacity was 2400

[storm bluff]

A single nuclear reactor is 2500

[outer saffron]

i just finished phase 3 tho

[storm bluff]

Gz

[sullen gull]

Now only 16 or 64 more to lay down 🙂

[storm bluff]

I would not recommend more than 18 coal gens. Move on unlock better stuff

[outer saffron]

my factory is only able to load 32 total as of now but i would 100% expend it in the future

[atomic notch]

I just started p3 on my world an i got like 11k as well

[outer saffron]

i aint on coal gens

[sullen gull]

32 if they were all overclocked right?>

[outer saffron]

yep

look here @storm bluff #design-and-architecture

[sullen gull]

So, yeah, only 16 more to lay down 🙂

[storm bluff]

Fuel gens too should not exceed 16
It’s just to dispose of residual fuel

[outer saffron]

why not exceed 16

if i can use 32 overclocked

[storm bluff]

Because nuclear is best

[outer saffron]

man im still not that far into the game

[storm bluff]

Hence my advice

[sullen gull]

I mean, in terms of simplicity it isn't

[prisma thicket]

Nuclear is best if you can deal with the waste, if you can't be bothered Ionized fuel is best

[sullen gull]

The waste management alone is a chore heh

[outer saffron]

but yall missing the point

as of now, turbo fuel gen factory is the best i can do

so aint nothin stopping me from abusing it to the max

[sullen gull]

With a bit of mam research, you could upgrade that to rocket fuel 😏

[outer saffron]

and would i need to re build it or its just an expension?

[sullen gull]

Erm, it's a bit of a different config

[outer saffron]

so i would need to re construct it ?

[hard junco]

hey i cant share a picture here but why does the flood light tower float on the air i cant place in a foundation

[sullen gull]

Here is a setup I did running 400 gens. Can't remember if they were overclocked or not: #screenshots message

[sullen gull]

There may be something near that is blocking it from snapping to the foundation?

[outer saffron]

Man, I salute you

pls tell me you used blueprints

[sullen gull]

You can share pictures in #screenshots if you need.

[sullen gull]

Lol, I did not.

[outer saffron]

WHAT

[sullen gull]

NO

wait, I lied. I did on that one.

[outer saffron]

phew

[sullen gull]

made a 2x fuel gen setup I think?

[storm bluff]

Simplicity isn’t good anyway otherwise why play a factory game

[sullen gull]

Don't remember how many fit in a mk3 miner

err mk3 blueprint maker rather

[sullen gull]

Out side of the generators, the entire production setup is right there in the middle.

Out side of nitrogen, I just setup a packager facility at the resource well node and drone'd in the tanks. Then picked up empties and just recycled.

[outer saffron]

Tinker look here #screenshots thats my first big self designed factory, took me like 4 good hours no bluerpints and pure math cuz i suck at looking at videos and coppying

[storm bluff]

Doesn’t sound very efficient

[sullen gull]

How wasn't it?

And then of course, 42x nuke facility in the same save 🤣 #screenshots message

[outer saffron]

dude the blue pipes stacking onto each other is making me sick

[plush owl]

quick question: i saw snutt showcase the "unreal console" in the "dedicated servers have leveled up" vid, but idk how to get my console to show up like in the vid. am i missing something? am i supposed to download the console or something?

[hard junco]

i tired placing it in other places but its still floating ill send a picture here #screenshots for you to see

[sullen gull]

Not sure what vid you refer

[plush owl]

https://youtu.be/v8piXNQwcUw?si=EqUdvQSLn7TPPRlk&t=336

[sullen gull]

Heh, I so wish I had 1.1's ability for blueprint autoconnect for building that lol.

[sullen gull]

You sure you're not looking for the 'console' tab in the Sever Settings on the main screen?

Nevermind, I rewatched it, and I've never used the windows variant of the dedicated so I am not sure. You could try asking in #dedicated-servers

[plush owl]

whoops i thought this was the dedicated server chat

@sullen gull when u open up ur dedicated server, do u see the unreal console?

[sullen gull]

I do not, as I run it in the background on linux VM

Jotted down on how to get into it though later lol

[tranquil maple]

Theres no way to co op with satisfactory modeler right?

[sullen gull]

You can export your configs and share them if that's what you mean

[tranquil maple]

Okay that works

[static surge]

What is global illumination

nvm

basically realistic lighting ig?

[chrome cloud]

How the hell do I snap blueprints to align with an existing foundation?

[gritty socket]

Hi I'm new and watched a lot of videos on setting up my first coal factory, I have 24 coal generators each with 120 coal/minute coming in but it's still using too much coal I have already put in 100 coal in all for a manifold setup but it's still consuming more than it's getting

how would I fix this issue? more coal or?

[prisma thicket]

120 coal per minute is for 8 generators, so you need 360 coal per minute. Don't put them all in one manifold, but 3 separate manifolds to make the belting easier.

[gritty socket]

I have 3 separate setups as manifolds each giving 120 per minute (normal coal node with mk.2 mining) all of it with mk.2 conveyors but it's still consuming more than it could provide

[prisma thicket]

So you have 3 coal nodes providing 120 per minute each?

[gritty socket]

yes

[prisma thicket]

Hmmm not sure what to tell you then, it sounds like everything should be running properly. Can you double check and make sure all your belts/lifts are mk.2 at least? If even one segment is off it can mess up the whole line.

[zenith pecan]

Also, is the water system primed?

[gritty socket]

okay I'll double check everything

yes water system is primed

[atomic notch]

Hmm weird

Prolly misplaced something

[trim vine]

For the priority power switch, does it prioritize grid A or B?

[zenith pecan]

Can you show us a screenshot of the setup, or a short video clip (under 100mb or it won't go) so we can take a look?

Man my typing is so bad!

[dusty field]

satisfactory dlc would go hard

[atomic notch]

I think you can set it to what you want

[trim vine]

I see options to set groups

I believe 1 is the highest; most important

8 being the lowest; screw that screw factory

But on the main page, it just shows power grid A and Power Grid B, and doesnt say which is the "keep this going at all cost" side or something

[atomic notch]

Yeah the one that keeps going at all cost is the one you set the highest priority to

Idk which ones are a and b for you so i cant tell you

[trim vine]

But I dont set an A or B, I just set the console itself, or is that all that matters?

Like I have everything on a "closed" grid for my turbo fuel set up, and set the power switch to 1 in the groupings, then have it connect to the power tower and go elsewhere

[distant pilot]

You might be using the normal power switch instead of the priority power switch

[trim vine]

No, its the priority one cause it allows me to assign that switch to a group

[atomic notch]

ima look at it rn just hopped on

pull the switch from undefined and put it in agroup

[atomic notch]

#screenshots message

if ur tryna find out wich one is which just turn the switch off see which grid goes down

[toxic zenith]

I recall mk2 pipes sometimes having issues getting the full 600/m throughput. Should I not design a fuel factory that assumes the full throughput from a single overclocked extractor on a pure node and slightly underprovision it instead, or am I probably safe in that particular case?

[atomic notch]

up to you man

some people have problems some people dont

[gritty socket]

I found this picture @zenith pecan it looks like i need 3 streams of 120coal/minute for 8 coal generators is that true?

i will post it in screenshots

[atomic notch]

no thats water

[unkempt blade]

15 coal/min per coal gen

[zenith pecan]

Fairly standard water plan per cluster.

The coal feeds ideally should be three mk2 belts, each going through a splitter near each generator.

[unkempt blade]

or just do one and let it saturate before you turn on all the generators

[gritty socket]

posting screenshots in screenshot of setup now @zenith pecan

[atomic notch]

oh.

[crude canyon]

guys I have 1000 hours in this game and I just realized...
If I line up multiple truck stations. I can make a truck carry way more than 2 maxed belts

[distant pilot]

but depending on how fast those belts are the trucks themselves can be a throughput issue

[zenith pecan]

Just seeing the screenshot, it looks like you have one of the mk2's going to way more than the max of eight it can feed due to its upper throughput limit.

[atomic notch]

yeah i saw it too sure theres all sorts of stuff

if u want i can hop in and help but from screenshots i wont really be much help

[zenith pecan]

I'd be changing the positioning of the generators and reworking the feed big time, as well as probably adding another eight.

[atomic notch]

id just fix the belt work tbh

you can put generators wherever you want

[crude canyon]

of course, but there's also ways to get around it, like compressing items

[atomic notch]

also looks like theres only 23

[crude canyon]

still, learning that I can just put more stations frees up so much

[zenith pecan]

It'll take me a couple of minutes to get to where I keep my soon-to-be-retired coal station to show my typical layout, assuming it can be of assistance.

Most of its superstructure has already been taken down, but that will at least make its logistics more visible.

[gritty socket]

i just counted it and each line is going to 8 generators

[atomic notch]

i was like halfway though buildin one in creative but my usual setup isnt noob friendly and would require fully re configuring the plant

#screenshots message

[zenith pecan]

This one is mine #screenshots message , it is relatively bulletproof though.

Do ignore the haphazard mk3 belts feeding the two lines of 16 generators, that place was never intended to be a permanent fixture.

[atomic notch]

also like all ur coal is backed up in the ss and ur gens are green i really didnt see any problems in the picture

[gritty socket]

i have the coal lines of 120/minute to go to storage containers then go to coal generators, i wanted to do that to make sure the number stayed the same but it is slowing going down

[atomic notch]

send a pic of that setup ig we just movin back lol

[gritty socket]

ill send ss of 10 second difference between it

[atomic notch]

sure

[gritty socket]

it should relatively stay the same

[atomic notch]

go further back then check miners and double check belts goin into depots

[gritty socket]

okay

[sullen gull]

Are we still doing pictures of coal plants? 😏 #screenshots message

[atomic notch]

look for a mk1 belt sometimes they can be like less than a meter long in front of a splitter or smth

will just mess up everything

[atomic notch]

miners cooler #math-and-meta message

[sullen gull]

Totally! 🙂

[atomic notch]

im just messin lol

[abstract heron]

wow station unrechable bruh

[gritty socket]

omfg it was 1 belt on each one :/ thank you very much

[atomic notch]

yeah its happened to me before

[abstract heron]

trying to set up cargo but it not working

[zenith pecan]

I've done that before, lower mk belt bottleneck.

[atomic notch]

did a mini recycled rubber setup on it

[sullen gull]

Heh, I am working on phase 4 with just two of those setups running lol. 9600 total at the moment

[abstract heron]

What am i doing wrong station unreachable

[atomic notch]

my current save just starting on p3 production

[zenith pecan]

Build one station backwards?

[sullen gull]

That station isn't on the same rail network as the train you are trying to assign

[abstract heron]

lets see if i am a person and did that

[atomic notch]

do you have any path or block signals ?

[abstract heron]

i fixed it

its really dumb and idiot way i did i have no trains on atm minus one

station was backwards

[zenith pecan]

I've done that too many times to count 😛

[abstract heron]

its realy transfering 1 pure sulfur node to a other factory

amd it won't do any unloading cargo why

debating if i want 2 cars

or 1

[atomic notch]

how much sulfur are we talkin

[abstract heron]

780

1 pure node

[zenith pecan]

No mk6 yet?

[abstract heron]

nope

mk5 only

[atomic notch]

(Stack size of cargo) * 32 (stacks per car) / (Round trip time in minutes) = Throughput (items/minute)

should tell you the throughput of each car so whatever sums to 780

[honest flume]

Is there a more streamlined way to build out a factory made in the SCIM production planner? I find myself literally printing it out and highlighting through the lines I've built.

[forest bridge]

Hey question on trains

How do I get the train to load a specific car onto a specific dock

I have a train with two cars making two stops to pick up two seperate items, and I want it to load/unload the items in specific cars

[atomic notch]

thats what empty platforms are for

if u have a car thats noit being used at a staion u just put an empty platform there

[forest bridge]

I see 🗒️

Thanks

[atomic notch]

#screenshots message

like that

[crude canyon]

I ran down some numbers on trucks.
On a 10 min round trip, with stack size of 100, a tractor has the same throughput of a mk4

[abstract heron]

its a big distance idk if i should run 1 oir 2 trains

[atomic notch]

whats the round trip time?

[abstract heron]

how do i check that

[atomic notch]

idk im checking rn

lol

ive done it all before but i forgot

[toxic zenith]

So, if I understand head lift and "water tower"-esque mechanics correct, I should be able to get away with something like

(side view)

REFINERY OUT-----+  +--- REFINERY IN
(40 M below)     |  |  (40 M head lift)
REFINERY OUT-----+--+

and get the full throughput (both the lower and upper refineries) into refinery in without need for additional pumps.

Is that correct?

[atomic notch]

i guess u cant gotta stopwatch it

if you get it u can calculate items per minute to see how many cars you need

if its just going to 1 sation u can save a bit of round trip time by making the train like this <-->

bruh

[latent prawn]

that most likely will work and exploint the game's fluid mechanics, but my experience is when you do things that are 'clever' like that, it ends badly

[zenith pecan]

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[zenith pecan]

My moderator ping didn't go as planned, wtf is it with these scam spammers.

[atomic notch]

dude like 80 percent of internet traffic is bots

[zenith pecan]

Colossal waste of electricity at best.

[atomic notch]

yeah

thx mod

[abstract heron]

so how do i find train distances

[frozen grotto]

A stop watch. Time how long it takes to make a full trip, unload, to unload.

Or load, to load. Whatever side you want to work from.

[atomic notch]

if you set it to its own powergrid you can time it from the power draw

stop watch might be easier tho

[reef basin]

power draw of a train is variable though

unless I'm misunderstanding what do you mean

[atomic notch]

like when it startits the power draw starts and when it slows down it goes down

you can time it from the train or the power pole

[reef basin]

stations and platform will probably mess it up

[atomic notch]

theres generally a pause

[frozen grotto]

Or if you use a ton of trains on a single track.

[reef basin]

but in general, you can just build a train and it will work, if not, you add a second one

[atomic notch]

oh well i dont generally do that i just do 1 train operations lol

[frozen grotto]

I love playing train simulator satisfactory. Trains every where.

I set my hub up near a very busy section of track just so I can hear them go by when I'm planning.

[atomic notch]

its fun setting up the big train network and everything but tbh just doin 1 train tracks makes it way easier

[lime ermine]

Trains are the best part of this game

[atomic notch]

unless u need it for a project i generally dont do networking

[frozen grotto]

It's definitely a choice. But auto connection blueprint made train networks way easier.

[atomic notch]

made everything easier lol

Too bad i cant run experimental past like phase 3 lol

[rich ivy]

i finally automated dark matter crystals

ended up having to make 490 instead of my originally planned 400, decided to round it up to 500

[nocturne ember]

I just realized I might beat the game in less than 500 hours. I'm almost 300 hours in and am almost at the end of phase 4. Just need to make nuclear pasta and bring it to the space elevator, and then have to deal with phase 5 so maybe not quite 500h but maybe pretty close

though, that's assuming I don't procrastinate or anything

[abstract heron]

its at 480 per minute transfering is that good for pure node by train

[reef basin]

did you buffer it?

[abstract heron]

yes

[reef basin]

then it will do full belt without issues

[abstract heron]

should it be 780 per minute?

[reef basin]

if buffered properly (two belts coming to platform from ISC), then yes, it can do 780/min

[abstract heron]

i am debating on 1 train or 2 trains greeny

[reef basin]

use 1, add another if it's not enough

[abstract heron]

its still at 480

and i need it to be 780

[wet shoal]

Does your node produce 780

[abstract heron]

yes

[wet shoal]

And the cargo station has time to completely fill till the train returns?

[abstract heron]

huh

[wet shoal]

because of it does, the time between it being full and getting loaded into the train, is time where you do not actually transfer items in any way.

[cyan meadow]

85 hours into my wife and I saved game and we have to stop playing. Our factory has gotten too big (yet efficient) that she is unable to load items on the belts anymore. Both i9 PC's 64gb ram with 4070 cards network set to ultra. If she hosts the same save file, then I can't render items on belts when i connect to her. I've googled/troubleshooted everything imaginable. Still no improvement. Really sad cause our 1st play through we had 544 hours and we loved every minute of it. We didn't even get to tier 7 😦

[reef basin]

and that would then need another train... which I already told them 😄

[abstract heron]

idk if i should add a other train to keep up with 780

[reef basin]

^

[wet shoal]

Yeah just making sure he knows why in terms that are easily understood.

Bridging the gap between belt and train logic

[abstract heron]

ill try with 2

[wet shoal]

Just to be clear, you could also do two wagons, instead of two trains, and add another cargo station, splitting the miners output between them.

having less trains is preferable in the long run, since a multitude of them can eventually result in nasty traffic sitiuations

[abstract heron]

this is why i am testing its my really first time using trains

i added 2 cars on it

like a extra one

[whole ermine]

where do i submit a bug about worlld geometry and texture issues?

[fossil ice]

Satisfactory Questions

You can send Questions, Feedback, Suggestions, and Bug Reports
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com
<3 @reef basin

[whole ermine]

i found a spot where rocks are clearlly floating and theres a strange bug with the water texture

[reef basin]

there's tons of floating rocks all over the map, blame hannah 😄

[whole ermine]

do i submit map coords with it and pics

[whole ermine]

yeah thats a smoll issue

so im wondering if i should submmit since its in a weird random ass cave

#screenshots message

[abstract heron]

i am just filling up the buffers atm

[whole ermine]

in the proccess of building turbomoters rn

[rich ivy]

i just set up my first quantum encoders

and i am SO proud of this little cover thing i made for em

#screenshots message

[whole ermine]

xd it looks llike some sort of pllayground attraction

like it

[rich ivy]

im going for like

"factory that tourists can visit"

[whole ermine]

yeah! i see it nice job

[rich ivy]

so im keeping all the pretty stuff visible and the dangerous stuff hidden away

calling this place "Great Plateau Industrial Park"

because the red forest is a plateau

[whole ermine]

what about the thingys in the back

[rich ivy]

and its in the center of the map

[whole ermine]

they have bits that haphazardly go in and out

[rich ivy]

like botw's great plateau

[whole ermine]

finger crushh hazard

[rich ivy]

converters have railings around them

[whole ermine]

you shouldl set up signs that say pinch point

allso poisonous gasses comeing out

id like to not huff SAM fumes

[rich ivy]

eh

the converter doesnt emit fumes unless you sloop it

[abstract heron]

let me try dis out

[rich ivy]

plus i trust people to be smart enough to not stick their fingers in the converter

theyd have to lean preeeetty far over the railing to do that so its kinda on them if it happens

yknow the saying

"play stupid games win stupid prizes"

[whole ermine]

bro is going to get sued

OSHA does not approve

actually thats occupational

whats osha but for llike. tourists stuffs

[rich ivy]

weeeeell

ficsit will just take a page out of JCJenson's book

"in case of government audit: shredders are conveniently located on every floor"

[whole ermine]

OSHA cant reach MASSAGE-2(A-B)b anyways

no such thing as an ethhics board on an alien planet too

OSHA too busy worrying about the safety of warp drives

[warped cove]

if I try to dismantle the space elevator will it let me

and if it will then will it keep the level

I am planning a relocation

[stuck dagger]

You can dismantle and rebuild the spelevator without any issues, yes

[dense violet]

there's basically no unreversable thing you can do in the game except spending items on research, and those items are abundant

[abstract heron]

with 2 ATM i have one car 459 second car is at 429 per minute is that good?

[warped cove]

alright thanks

[rich ivy]

alright all the belts and pipes are set up

my first ever quantum encoders are ready

this feels like a big milestone

OOOGHHH THE POWER ON ANIMATION

its all over the walls

also i lowkey thought it would just swing back and forth in power, i didnt think it would just

pick a random number every now and then lmao

[warped cove]

I just came here with a question but I have another one:

how does one fuel the cyber wagon

[rich ivy]

takes any fuel the other cars do

[warped cove]

no but like, where do I put it in

oh it was just not showing up for me sorry

[dense violet]

congrats! it's as good a quality and functionality as the cybertruck

[warped cove]

I agree fully

[latent prawn]

i'm snickering as you try driving it for the first time

kind of a shame that it isn't usable as a vehicle after update 8

[rich ivy]

so the red forest is very high up

and theres stuff i gotta ship in via train

should i train stuff up halfway and then use drones the rest of the way, or should i just say fuck it and try and run a train line through here

[night phoenix]

idk tbh rn making a hmf factory and im just gonna use trains to ship stuff to my base

[reef basin]

you can also just put them in dimensional depot

[night phoenix]

yeah but i also need them at my base for adaptive control units

[reef basin]

make ACUs where you have your HMFs 😛

[night phoenix]

Nah nah that would mean i have to clean up my spaghetti 😞

[abstract heron]

my train of 780 now can't do enough resources i think to have it back should i be worried?

[fallen orbit]

Are you transporting them for future or what do you need acus for rn?

[onyx shuttle]

is dedicated ram important for satisfactory or just normal 16 gb ram good enough?
I have heard that if you build satellite factories then during mid game cpu is the bottleneck? is this correct

[dense violet]

make a post describing how you've set it up, with overhead images of your stations

[abstract heron]

ill do it tmr cobalt

or later today its late and i set it all up today ish

[onyx shuttle]

tag me if someone replies

[storm bluff]

Guys did you know that coal generators also sink water? Why do I figure that out only now smh

Anyway so I think it’s non fissile uranium that produces water also
I used a nuclear reactor to sink it and send the waste via merger
Feeling so smart

[sullen gull]

huh?

[prisma thicket]

When it comes to late game SAM usage, is it reanimated SAM or the fluctuators that is mainly used? Last save I just instantly automated fluctuators as soon as I could, but wondering if maybe I should be holding onto the reanimated SAM and just make fluctuators as needed.

[cyan garnet]

Fluctuators are only used in buildables, whereas reanimated Sam is a resource for making dark matter residue and trigons

[prisma thicket]

That's what I needed to know, thank you.

[forest bridge]

Do block signals not work for push/pull train systems?

[prisma thicket]

You need block signals going both ways for each block I think, or path signals and branching segments to allow trains to pass each other going each way.

[forest bridge]

🤔

[prisma thicket]

If you don't have multiple trains on the same rail you don't need block signals though.

[forest bridge]

right

I have 3 trains

and am trying to coordinate 3 push pulls

[prisma thicket]

Then you'll need side branches for the trains to pass each other, and path signals at each branch

[forest bridge]

Ok I think I got it

My track is basically an H now

And I have blocks going both ways at both intersections so the middle one doesn't crash into the ones going along the long sides

Very nice

[cyan garnet]

Satisfactory trains always take the shortest path. They won’t dynamically route around traffic

You need to have signals at the entrances to the bidirectional section of rail but you can’t have any block signals inside it or it will deadlock (the entire bidirectional rail has to be a single block)

Honestly it’s 100x easier to run a two rail network

[prisma thicket]

Or just 1 push/pull train per rail.

[frail sleet]

Pipes which go from A to B without any junctions are safe.

The cause of that issue is backflow, and problematic backflow only happens in a few situations

the most common one by far is junctions splitting fluid unevenly, which is fundamental to manifolds. If you split with a junction then ensure that the same amount of fluid is wanted from every exit. Otherwise, assume that the pipe will be effectively derated by ~10%+ (or more if you want to be safe).

It's easy to compensate for by avoiding manifolds where they are not neccesary, and when using manifolds from a high-flow-rate pipe, splitting that pipe equally (e.g. a 600 to 300+300) right before the manifold. That way you're manifolding a 300/600 pipe instead of 600/600 which would require the entire flow rate to be in the desired direction.

e.g. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/558721941410807812/1363346708356141106/image.png?ex=681acb11&is=68197991&hm=724181f81a3964bcb84e122a17e02d8e5e43ce4641fe87abe368a2b62845f22b&

The same issue also occurs in the same circumstances with mk.1 pipes, and deep diving into why the heck my second coal plant didn't work (with a classic 3 extractor, 8 gen setup that had inputs "appropriately" divided so that all pipes could flow <300) was the start of my pipe studies 😄

[jaunty jewel]

i believe fluctuators are used for alien power matrices? i could be wrong (and theyre deifnitely not needed to make)

[dense violet]

wdym 'dedicated ram' ?

vram?

[dense violet]

yeah, doing multiple trains on bi directional rail is a nightmare. make 2 lanes

[night phoenix]

Used for phase 4

If i ever want to finish that i need adaptive control units automated

[quick sky]

Is it a good idea to make modular extendable blueprints for widely used parts that only intake ore, like for example a BP for hmf that takes coal iron and limestone in scalable amounts?

It's gonna basically have a bus that feeds into manifolds that feed into machines that feed into each other that feed into an output belt

[peak wasp]

Yipee, 7680MW

First time ive gotten this high

[reef basin]

not bad idea, but I wouldn't recommend a bus

[fallen orbit]

So all this time I was thinking there's a issue with blenders , power or faulty connections that's why my fuel generators were fluctuating but
Turns out I just needed to loop the crude oil pipes on the HOR refineries ;-;

Also guys am planning on having 70 refineries and 70 fuel generators overclocked for my new turbofuel plant.
Will I need pumps on each floor pipeline because I will be building vertically?
And what would be the best amount of generators/refineries for each floor so even the last generator/refinery have enough fluid

[onyx shuttle]

yes

[fallen orbit]

How do people launch so far with hypertubes i don't see a canon or anything here
Will I have to make a hypertube line this long from a to b?

[onyx shuttle]

search hyper cannon launcher on YouTube and be amazed

[leaden turret]

[fallen orbit]

Is it not efficient to use hypertube lines? Just better to use cannons for every location?

Also thanks

[leaden turret]

some people like abusing the physics engine, other people like myself prefer to be able to take a pee break as it takes 10 minutes to go across the map at a normal speed

[tall lantern]

define "efficient"

[leaden turret]

fficient, but online

[fallen orbit]

I had a idea to setup up a good looking pathway for the hypertubes

[tall lantern]

hypertube cannons require some troubleshooting and potentially manual control when actually using 'em, plain ol' hypertubes Just Work

[fallen orbit]

I mean it's much better to use hypertubes than ziplines I am tired of ziplines

[cursive crane]

Something to keep in mind with [original] cannon is the power it takes to reach a high enough speed to warrant it. Switches help if you want to turn things on/off for use, but 1.1 will fix all that

Im so hyped for 1.1 release cuz the power saving with the ability to manually change directions is sooo good.

[fallen orbit]

Is packaged turbofuel a good fuel for drones?

Making a turbo fuel plant I will packaged a little bit if so

[prisma thicket]

packaged turbofuel is good for drones and awesome in the jetpack

[fallen orbit]

Alright I have 71 refineries for the turbofuel I'll package 1 refinery

[unkempt blade]

at some point I just don't have to worry about power but before that point I really wish HT entrances only consumed power for like... 10s or something after being used

I use tons of entrances on my skyroad to speed up the HT and I'd love to just buffer it with power storage instead of always needing to power it

[fallen orbit]

I think am gonna break my own rules today and build the hypertube in air as it will be much much easier to lay down long hypertubes

[frail sleet]

power saving?

[fallen orbit]

Gonna spend rest of the time I have today doing a full circle of hypertube of the map

[cursive crane]

1.1 you can just have one entrance, and have paths to turn off to use them. Depending on how big your cannons are, its basically going to cut my HT cannon power usages to 1/10th

[boreal musk]

hypertube branches, the loop saves you power with just one entrance

[fallen orbit]

Hypertube cannons take that much power?

[cursive crane]

Each entrance is 10mw

[fallen orbit]

And how many of those are used in average cannons?

[unkempt blade]

I do a bunch of these type boosters along my path and it adds up pretty quick especially early-mid game #screenshots message

not a "cannon" but same idea to increase speed along the path

[cursive crane]

Its not HORRIBLE, but when you start building multiple cannons for multiple parts of the map it gets to be a pretty large amount of power.
My HT cannon blueprints usually have around 10 entrances

[fallen orbit]

That's like 100mw
And even if you have like 100 of those 10gw is not too bad

By the time one has a diluted fuel setup or turbofuel going that isn't that big of a deal

[cursive crane]

Nah, but if you use HT cannons before nuclear thats a fair chunk.

Limits your usage, or at the very least limits you to using switches, which get annoying to have to keep track of.

[fallen orbit]

I think this is what am gonna do
Lay down a single foundation in the air and just build foundations from there in the air while also building hyper tubes then once I have done a full circle of the map
I'll remove the foundaitons

[cursive crane]

Also im just an efficiency nut so cutting each of those cannons down to 1/2 entrances is such an improvement lol

[fallen orbit]

xd

[unkempt blade]

yeah... the map tool says I'm using 530 in my current save 😆

[frail sleet]

how do you choose your exit when you're up to speed?

[fallen orbit]

530 entrances?

[cursive crane]

Check peoples videos on youtube of 1.1. It prompts you with an arrow and you just go left or right

[fallen orbit]

If you enter a different way from the hypertube junction or whatever it is called you can hold s and go back to the direction you want

[frail sleet]

i've seen that, but i dont understand how you can choose between like 4 different exits when you're moving so quickly. At normal hypertube speeds obviously, but not after going through a cannon

[fallen orbit]

Idk about moving quickly but if you are in a normal hypertube you can hold s and just move in the direction of hypertube you wanna go

Am currently playing 1.1

[frail sleet]

Yes but if you use a hypertube CANNON, how can you use different exits with only 1 cannon?

[cursive crane]

I believe you can just hold the input.
Also since the branches are only one entrance, you can CHOOSE how fast you go each time now by how long you are in the branch. So various ways to change speed now

[frail sleet]

since after you go through, you are moving so quickly

[fallen orbit]

That sorry idk

[frail sleet]

i do not understand at all 😄

[unkempt blade]

yeah I would imagine you would need a much less compact cannon to use them reliably but I haven't tried 1.1

[frail sleet]

you have one entrance connected to a loop, and also to like 4 exits? and you reliably choose which one you want to go out of, so that you only need one entrance instead of like 8x4?

[cursive crane]

OG cannon otherwise theres a trick with beams or pillars and concrete barriers where you put one of the entrances an inch further away from the main track than they other entrance, then you use smart switches to turn off one and turn on the one you want

[unkempt blade]

for current cannons I just redirect my last segment of tube if I need to change which way it launches me which honestly hasn't been too awful

[cursive crane]

Look up Dortamurs Hobbies video series on hypertube cannons, i believe part 2 goes over using junctions and stuff.

But obv that doesn't apply to 1.1.

[dense violet]

you want a dedicated graphics card with a chunk of vram yes

[lusty ermine]

I just started Satisfactory yesterday and saw there's a big 1.1 update coming soon. Can anyone tell me if there's news on when it will release and if my save files will be okay if I start playing now?

[prisma thicket]

There's generally not many issues going from one patch to the next, so you should be fine. No news on release date as far as I know, but I believe it will be in the #announcements channel if there is anything.

[lavish lance]

If its integrated its called dedicated, no?

[lusty ermine]

Alright thanks a lot. I'll continue building then! And dying because I get knocked off a cliff by the local fauna....

[unkempt blade]

at least for previous updates they've been very good about calling out any breaking changes before the release happens

[grizzled lotus]

how can I tell if water flow to a coal generator is adequate?

[unkempt blade]

there's a light on the coal generator, if it stays solid green while you watch it for a moment it has enough coal and water https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Indicator_Light

Or https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Power#Power_graph is helpful but probably won't tell you exactly which one is having problems. Lumps mean something isn't generating constantly

[frank tree]

wait if i die of radiation, how do i retrieve my stuff without being affected by radiation without a hazmat suit

[sturdy mural]

guys do machines show their lift on pipes?

or do i have to like slap a pump right at the output for that indicator

[sturdy mural]

you could either

• grab a bunch of heals, get close to the stuff, heal up, use the pickup all button, run away (or use a vehicle since iirc you dont get irradiated in it)
• get rid of the radiation quickly
• theres probably a better way

[reef basin]

integrated = part of built pc, usually laptops
dedicated = separate component, usually has much better performance

[quick sky]

Lorewise, how does the pioneer respawn 🤔

[sturdy mural]

that might be more for the #story-spoilers?

[tall lantern]

ADA dismantles your corpse and rebuilds it in the HUB, duh

[quick sky]

How inappropriate

[fresh wharf]

Hey, I found two coal nodes near each other with water, is it possible to make two coal extractor setups?

[tall lantern]

why wouldn't it be?

[quick sky]

You can make as many coal gens as you have coal for

[sturdy mural]

you got coal
you got water
you can make coal gens

[quick sky]

Check the input and output of the buildings

[fresh wharf]

Just thought it'd have a consequence or something
Anyways in the middle of the lake theres this big rock that I can't break and it has an insanely big hitbox so it forces me to make my water extractors so far away

How do I get rid of it?

It's a big glowy rock

Cracked rock with white particles coming out of it

[quick sky]

Pro tip: you can also use power shards on miners to increase coal yield at the cost of power (but you get even more power if you burn the extra coal)

[sturdy mural]

can you seend a pic in #screenshots ?

[fresh wharf]

Wait, I'm not home, I'll send you one when I can

[quick sky]

The answer lies in the MAM sulfur research tree

[fresh wharf]

Tell me the answer now so I can stop having spaghetti pipes because of badly made models

[sturdy mural]

white particles...

idk if thats the low settings but i can't think of anything with white particles

[fresh wharf]

They're string like and float up to the sky

The rock is uhh
Rock

[sturdy mural]

is the rock like
a bunch of cracked boulders

[fresh wharf]

Yes
I think?

[sturdy mural]

oh ye

[quick sky]

Basically it's explosives, but I would just build the pipes elsewhere, it's a bit of a hassle to automate explosives. If you really want to you can also buy some bombs from the awesome shop with coupons once you've unlocked them

[sturdy mural]

you need a bit of boom booms

[fresh wharf]

Oh yeah the awesome shop exists, thanks

[quick sky]

There are also spooky sounds coming from inside the rock if you heard

Gives you a clue as to what's inside

[fresh wharf]

Yeah and white particles

[tall lantern]

yeah the particles aren't the rock itself, they're from what's locked inside

[lavish lance]

As in dedicated ram not vram if using igpu

[reef basin]

ah I thought you were talking about GPUs

[sturdy mural]

guys will fuel generators burn fuel even if they're not connected to a machine but just to a pole?

[red sun]

i believe so yes

[sturdy mural]

cuz i got like 100 fuel being burnt and its just fluctuating like crazy
its like 99.99999998 fuel probably

and it looks ugly not smooth

[boreal musk]

generator will burn as long as you have them connected to power grid

[fresh wharf]

If I have coal generators on grid will my biofuel generators burn biofuel?

[fallen orbit]

No biomass burners won't run
They are the i think only generators which work according to the power demand
If the grid will ever require more power they will turn on depending on how much power is needed

[fresh wharf]

Ok thanks

[fallen orbit]

Except biomass burners in future if you use fuel you coal plant will still run

[fresh wharf]

Alright

BTW what tier is blade runners and jetpack?

[fallen orbit]

Which reminds me I decommissioned my coal power plant which had 48 gens
Because for some reason it was fluctuating a Lil bit but it's still there if I need it ever

[fallen orbit]

Decommissioned sounds cool but there I mean turned off

[fallen orbit]

Blade runners are quartz mam tree and jetpack is p3

[tall lantern]

blade runners are whenever, jetpack is like T5 or so IIRC?

[fallen orbit]

Oh tiger

[fresh wharf]

Ugh phase 3
The part where I suffer

[fallen orbit]

Tier*

Yea I think it is tier 5

[fresh wharf]

Alright

[fallen orbit]

Does anyone know how much turbofuel is consumed when a fuel generator is overclocked to 250% I couldn't find on wiki sorry

[light ginkgo]

Surely 1.1 this month :clueless:

[light ginkgo]

250% of 100% comsuption rate ?

[fallen orbit]

Uhm
Turbofuel consumption per min at max overclocked 1 fuel generator

[light ginkgo]

yes

you probably can find 100% comsuption rate

[clever pier]

I doubt it

[light ginkgo]

then just *2.5 @fallen orbit

[fallen orbit]

Oh yea that was dumb alr

[light ginkgo]

*fades to dust*

[clever pier]

remember experimental somtimes took 6 months... but you can always try experimental right now

its stable in that it doesnt crash for most people

just have to live without mods

[fallen orbit]

Yea I have played almost 40 hours on experimental already I was at 75 hours when I upgraded to 1.1 now at almost 120

No issues only have crashed once

[echo dawn]

satisfactory pls give back my friend

he hasnt stopped playing since last year

[fallen orbit]

Got blueprints ready for my new turbofuel plant soon begining to be assembled

[red sun]

i'm sorry, your friend is gone

[echo dawn]

:(

now he only yaps ab smt ab belt noodles

[red sun]

the only way to get him back is to JOIN US

[echo dawn]

oh no

its a bottomless hole isnt it

[red sun]

you would be correct

i haven't seen my family for 3 months

it's all belts and manifolds

[echo dawn]

i tried playing it once

this spider molested me in a cave and i quit

[red sun]

if you didn't like satisfactory, try ||again||

[echo dawn]

wuts again

[dense violet]

good

[alpine jolt]

WAIT we have MODS?

[dense violet]

also you have the most baffling block note on your profile. No idea what you did to deserve it

[dense violet]

for years. Though I recommend going through the tiers at least once before moding

[alpine jolt]

i see

i am going through once but not legit

[leaden turret]

they once did a mod highlight that showed off the lights mod right before dropping the trailer that announced they added lights

@void gorge Mod Highlight 2025, when?

[dense violet]

I mean... it's good to get through it in a way that you learn all the basics and build everything, including power, and learn how to plan.

I don't know how 'unlegit' you're doing it? shrug

[alpine jolt]

yea i struggled on steel and power management on my first playthrough

so i decided to only allow flight and no build cost for the nonlegit world

so i can learn wat to do

[timid rune]

time to ponder do I downgrade my Aluminum setup from 6480 ingot/min so generate more nuclear power with bauxite conversion

[dense violet]

I'd say that would hamper learning honestly but you do you

[timid rune]

I am post phase 5 so messing around at this point lol

[alpine jolt]

i mean true cus buildcost is preety important

im mainly learning methods for factory optimizations

before this i played mindustry

the 2d verson like this

[dense violet]

I mean that's basic maths that you can use Satisfactorytools to make trival. It's more about layout and design

[alpine jolt]

its fine im playing on both saves anyways

altrenating

only thing i wanna know is, the map is humongus

are all the 4 places just diffrent spawns?

[dense violet]

yup all one map

[alpine jolt]

i see

[timid rune]

maybe I will just convert more caterium ore for bauxite then uranium

it is gonna cost me a ton of SAM but it is what it is...

[alpine jolt]

theres conversion??

[dense violet]

yeah , it's a little pointless though

[alpine jolt]

i see

[timid rune]

I am just planning for a 1TW nuclear setup

[dense violet]

SAM ore is usually always more annoying to get to a factory than whatever other resources you might convert

[timid rune]

but I have used up way too much bauxite for my aluminum factory LOL

[alpine jolt]

i found one of pure rarity on top of the tall piller near the first spawn area

was hunting for slugs

[dense violet]

yup. Annoying.

[zenith pecan]

I'm in the middle of sorting SAM ore right now, all 10,200 of it destined to go to the dunes.

[dense violet]

what are you doing with it? xD

[timid rune]

I am gonna use 2400 SAM for this setup but it is what it is

[zenith pecan]

Pretty much everything from converter operations to just providing fluctuators.

[timid rune]

mainly I don't want to reduce the output of my aluminum factory just yet

[alpine jolt]

i dont understand but intriguing

[zenith pecan]

Trigons will be back on the map when I'm done to boot.

[timid rune]

I do need a steel ingot factory so I have to create that >_>

[night phoenix]

holy shit the hoverpack is the best thing ever made

[alpine jolt]

is there a way to delete(dismantle) factry setups and blue prints together?

[timid rune]

nah

[alpine jolt]

after placing them

[timid rune]

just gotta do it by hand

[alpine jolt]

pain

an accidental click gonna cost a lot of time

[true mulch]

There's mass dismantle and blueprint dismantle mode respectively

[alpine jolt]

ohh there is?

[true mulch]

Hold ctrl for the first, press R for the second

[alpine jolt]

omg thanks

[true mulch]

Better have a look into the keybinds menu

[alpine jolt]

true

[leaden turret]

I miss when Ondar was a Capyabara, too many cats in herte already 😛

[true mulch]

That was biggie cheese

I don't recall having a capybara

[alpine jolt]

i just went through some videos on some blueprints to see for tricks and stuff

[blissful summit]

hello, when 1.1 updates?

[leaden turret]

soon™️

[blissful summit]

ah i see, there is no fix time yet right?

[tall lantern]

never is

[alpine jolt]

does blueprints cross save between saves?

[tall lantern]

"when it's ready" is the real answer

[tall lantern]

not automatically I don't think, but you can probably just copypaste the files

[chrome cloud]

does underclocking save electricity compared to just letting the machine back up?

The stitched plate recipe is so awkward that I am running my wires at 80%

[mossy moon]

underclockign saves power

[chrome cloud]

Is there static consumption on a backed up machine?

[red sun]

yup - two machines at 50% run on less power than one at 100% for example

[mossy moon]

i think thats how it works

[mossy moon]

yeah but the 100% machine will only be online half the time. but i think it still saves power

[atomic notch]

Good morning all

[chrome cloud]

Interesting. Why is this? Is the relationship between power and output nonlinear?

[tribal thistle]

guys, dont u know when 1.1 gonna be released?

[mossy moon]

its more complicated than you think but yeah it does save power still i thinl

[mossy moon]

yes its non linear

[red sun]

hmmm yeah i still think it does, not super sure

[mossy moon]

you can find it on the wiki

[red sun]

here - https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/images/thumb/8/88/Clock_speed_power_consumption_graph.png/300px-Clock_speed_power_consumption_graph.png?186995

that image is awful quality hold on

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:Advanced_clock_speed#/media/File:Clock_speed_power_consumption_graph.png

[quick sky]

Dear Pioneers, why are blueprints called blue, if they can be any color you want?

↪️ Turning Point FICSIT™️

[tribal thistle]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blueprint#:~:text=The blueprint process,-Architectural drawing%2C Germany&text=When the paper is illuminated,blue)%20with%20the%20divalent%20iron.

[leaden turret]

I'm not sure CSS would appreciate joking references to their IP being associated with those [expletive deleted]

[quick sky]

That's ok, I'm not CSS

[leaden turret]

missing the point

[quick sky]

I don't know what you want me to do about it

[quick sky]

So they're actually whiteprints

[spark ruin]

[timid rune]

Hmm maybe I can get away with spending 60 sloops on my uranium fuel rod factory

[whole ermine]

6/min turbomoter factory is coming along nicely

i decided to not go alll out because im noto gonna be using them a whole lot

[quick sky]

Would it be better than augmenters?

[timid rune]

probably nah

I am aiming for a 1TW nuclear so I might just end up using 20 sloops on the nuclear factory

[quick sky]

1tw 0_0

what are you trying to power? trying to simulate crysis within satisfactory?

[sturdy mural]

guys how do you escape a hypertube loop

[zenith pecan]

Save & load, it should dump you next to the tube at your current location.

[sturdy mural]

ooo

also i managed to break the tubes

i just got thrown into the void

without a way to do anything
and got stuck in first person as dead??

[junior laurel]

Nah just trying to get the Unlimited power starwars meme

[light ginkgo]

yep exponential that's why overclocking is not that good

[mossy moon]

wait is it exponential? i thought it was powered to ^1.?? smth

[tall lantern]

though it's not that much more overall, something like 25% IIRC

[mossy moon]

its just some random exponent right?

[light ginkgo]

exponential / x^1.a => tomato tomato

[mossy moon]

ig but they very difernet technically

[light ginkgo]

?

[mossy moon]

x^ 'smth' and 'smth' ^ x difernet

[light ginkgo]

oh ye m

mb

[mossy moon]

k

[placid stirrup]

Potato tomato!

[wet shoal]

Obviously mixing it with sand to make spice.

[quick sky]

Ficsan al gaib

[forest mirage]

If I die before the game comes to console I'm gonna be so peeved. PlEEaAssseeee hurry! 😭🤮

[reef basin]

buy a PC instead 😛

[wet shoal]

Silksong fans are already harvesting organs from their offspring to maintain their chance to witness the games release.

[rugged abyss]

whats the next power source after solid biofuel?

[wet shoal]

Coal

[rugged abyss]

when do i unlock it?

[wet shoal]

Finish your milestone

[rugged abyss]

which one?

[wet shoal]

Well the hub completion

Then you get to different milestones, one includes coal power

[rugged abyss]

tier what?

[wet shoal]

-_-

[torpid sandal]

Coal Power is unlocked in tier 3

[reef basin]

why do you want us to spoil you the game?

just progress through it and learn it as you go

[rugged abyss]

thank you

[cinder breach]

someone wanna join my game?

[reef basin]

#1201555265942724758

[cinder breach]

thank u

[fallen orbit]

I designed a blueprint in 3 parts
With 4 turbofuel refineries into 8 overclocked 250% fuel generators
With a looped turbofuel pipe connected to the refineries
Is this alright or you guys keep your refineries seperate and gens seperate?

Because due to this blueprint
I can easily manage the fluids
But the downside is it cannot be seperated I will have to build it in this manner only

[abstract heron]

is there a stream today?

[worthy hatch]

I don’t believe so I think they said no stream this week but big exparamental patch is in the works to release within the week

[wet shoal]

The issue is that you might desire to re-purpose the gens for rocketfuel eventually, and then it might result in solid spaghetti

Thats why I keep gens and production somewhat seperated

Also got rid of manifolding and utilize fluid balancers now, because those work much more reliable without the need of pre-filled pipes.

[chrome cloud]

considering the weirdly low transfer rate from a trucking station

it's way better to make steel beams and steel pipes on site and transfer them via two separate trucks, right?

i don't have trucks or even tractors yet, just using tractors to haul steel

[peak wasp]

is there a mod page? i wanna ask if anyone's made any star wars character customisation mods

[leaden ether]

There is the "Satisfactory Modding" discord.

[peak wasp]

you are wonderful

[worthy hatch]

GTA 6 trailer 2 out now

[placid stirrup]

#off-topic-general

[fallen orbit]

Yea I decided that first the place am making turbo fuel plant is at the sea shore
And the rocket fuel plant am gonna make will be in the blue crater

As getting compacted coal is easier to the sea shore and as I had diluted fuel producing there aswell

Starting the project #screenshots

[silver rivet]

Does the pump need a few seconds to spin up to start producing or is it just an animation?

Kind of struggling to understand how the water in my fluid system vanished after it was completely full, with just 4 coal plants and one extractor. Only one theory that I have is that the extractor needs to spin up

[green fiber]

4 coal generators use more water than one extractor makes

[silver rivet]

Uhhhh

I'm not sure how I arrived at the conclusion that it was enough

[green fiber]

Have you checked the menu of coal gens

[silver rivet]

Yeah

[green fiber]

they show you how much they use in the bottom left

not the big 50m³, but the number below that

and extractors also show you how much they make

[silver rivet]

I know, I literally did the math. I'm such a moron. "45 * 4 = 180, 120 on the supplier is 100% enough". I have no clue what I was thinking

[green fiber]

Brainfart moment

[silver rivet]

I spent like an entire hour trying different piping layouts and systems

Anyway, thanks for pointing this out, I'd have spent at least 2 more hours chasing ghosts otherwise :P

[fluid sapphire]

any news past the video from 11 days ago about 1.1?

[rich urchin]

No dev stream today?

[zenith pecan]

Nuclear cleanup in progress #screenshots message 🤣

Lmao one of the bombs delayed going off, randomly blew up after while I was sinking a mine shaft 🤦‍♂️ ☢️

[azure swan]

You could overclock the extractor to make that work or otherwise go with the classic 8 coal gens to every 3 water extractors setup (seen in the wiki for coal generators)

[chrome cloud]

when recording a tractor route from station to station, do i need to do a whole loop?

or can i do A>B and have it drive back in reverse?

[green fiber]

a loop is usually better

you can drive from A to B and then drive in reverse but the autopilot doesnt quite like it

[plucky pecan]

w<

[silver rivet]

I went with 2 downclocked extractors for 4 plants

I like to work with smaller modules

360 is an awkward number to worth with when it comes to mk. 1 pipes

I'd need to section off parts of the module

[atomic notch]

Just split into 2

Or wait two for 4? Yeah glhf dude

[silver rivet]

Yeah, I don't wanna do any of that

Hence 2 to 4

[azure swan]

Yeah that works. Modules of I works too but you can't fit it into a single BP so I see the downside. Yet again you can't BP the extractors anyways 🤷 ultimately that's the beauty of the game. You can do it however you want!

[reef basin]

  G  G  G  G
E-+--+--+--+
E-+
E-+--+--+--+
  G  G  G  G

not ankward at all

[forest bridge]

Anyone have tips for conveyor belts into manufacturers

4 inputs is getting hectic

[tall lantern]

verticality

[reef basin]

4 belts, 4 splitters, 4 lifts 😛

[tall lantern]

stack splitters, connect via lifts (or belts if you have room)

[forest bridge]

alright, so it'd look like a diagonal chain of splitters?

[tall lantern]

doesn't have to

[forest bridge]

going up

[tall lantern]

but can do

[placid stirrup]

I snap splitters directly to lifts, this mechanic is changed slightly in 1.1 though
#screenshots message

[forest bridge]

Ok cool thanks

[leaden ether]

How did it change?

[placid stirrup]

It snaps center on the lift since they added vertical splitting in 1.1, even if you snap to the top or bottom of one. I was figuring out how to redo my layout with this new mechanic but I'm taking a break from the game

It still works it's just more prone to clipping

[leaden ether]

Hopefully it leaves the old builds in place -.- I've used that hundreds of times.

[placid stirrup]

It will, and works normally as far as I could tell

[rotund scroll]

I hate liquids so much in this

Probably because i build cursed setups such as producing alumina with mixing fresh and recycled water

[white dawn]

Heh, you certainly can get mixed fresh+recycled systems working fine; I used to do it pretty frequently

Nowadays I just keep the two totally separate, though. Separate banks of machines; underclock as appropriate so the numbers work out

[toxic zenith]

I would love to know why vertical pipe junctions refuse to snap to machine inputs/outputs but will snap to other junctions just fine... making it necessary to make a dummy pipe with junctions on it as snap points for the real pipe.

[supple rain]

should I start my save file over

[tall lantern]

no

or yes

[supple rain]

I kinda put myself in a place where doing any of the things I need to do is outrageously difficult

[tall lantern]

whichever answer you're seeking 😛

[supple rain]

I'm leaning towards starting over

[rotund scroll]

How do i stop it from unexpectedly losing water throughput?

[naive pendant]

@toxic zenith The game just is a bit janky for some things. I get pipe junctions to vertical rotate with snapped location using a pump placed nearby on a wall. Then I save them as blueprints at different heights.

[supple rain]

yeeaaaah I'm gonna start over

plus now I can move on to 1.1 :D

[toxic zenith]

Yeah. That jank has been there and has bothered me ever since the ability to snap junctions existed. I'm tempted to just BP refineries/etc that already have the junction and pipe attached but then I have to individually connect the sections.

[white dawn]

A VIP junction from the pipeline manual (https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/images/3/39/Pipeline_Manual.pdf?2090cd) may help; for me I generally needed to fiddle with them for awhile before they'd work reliably. One reason why I just keep them separate nowadays

I admit I don't really remember anything specific I'd have to do to get it working properly. I've been keeping them separate for quite awhile now

[cinder breach]

hi i have a serious question, i will try to explain as i dont speak english. im building a very big organized factory and im tier 3. idk if i have to stock resources like copper wire or i can send them all into production for the most elaborate resources????

i will need copper wire in pure state in future??

[white dawn]

I usually recommend generally following this: https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:Independency

[tall lantern]

copper wire is used for a lot of buildings though, yes. So don't go making it all into cable

[subtle kernel]

You will need an absurd amount of copper wire later

[tall lantern]

the factory that needs it can make its own though (see Independency above)

[subtle kernel]

Best bet is to store it in large quantity, prob 3 storage mk 2 and send it out as needed

[cinder breach]

so like i can stock 25% and the remaining send it to production?

[subtle kernel]

You can have it self sustaining, but youll want some sort of stockpile somewhere

I generally put a storage infront of each machine, that way you can always build a stockpile of literally everything

[tall lantern]

oof

[cinder breach]

u mean all of it to production of other parts just to hold a part of it

[tall lantern]

that only works if you're building wrong in a way that where you're not making specific amounts of things for later stages and just yoloing it

[cinder breach]

but like that the factory is not automated

[cinder breach]

now im using all the resources without wating one

[subtle kernel]

I mean, it never hurts to have an excess of everything if you have the resources to stockpile it all

[cinder breach]

wasting

[naive pendant]

Anything can work. You could make all iron ingots in one place then transport them to all your other factories. From experience, doing that is horrible. In this example iron ingot is like copper wire.

[cinder breach]

i like one big factory well organized with all in it

like im doing right now

[naive pendant]

Sure. That really causes issues later.

[subtle kernel]

Sending ingots or ores is incredibly inefficient lol. You end up with much slower production due to transportation time

Unless youre sending it to a location that requires other resources to create something

[cinder breach]

my method will cause issues?

[atomic notch]

More like troubles but yeah

[naive pendant]

Yea. The recipes for items get a lot more complex (more steps) as you go. That style just gets too confusing later on.

[mortal ginkgo]

lets just say your factory building needs to be REALLY big to make everything in acceptable amounts.

[subtle kernel]

^^^^

[cinder breach]

its big

[subtle kernel]

It needs to be giant skybase big

[mortal ginkgo]

not exactly enough we guarantee you that. The train system to get everything in will be insane as it is

[cinder breach]

im not wasting a single second or a single resource its all calculated

[cinder breach]

for now

[subtle kernel]

I hated the learning curve with the rail system. Made absolutely no sense for awhile lol

Eventually learned that I had to make 2 paths. I couldnt have bidirectional rails

[atomic notch]

You can just only one car on it

[mortal ginkgo]

bidirectional is the hardmode

[subtle kernel]

I couldn't figure out bidirectional to save my life. I kept running into signal issues no matter what I tried

[placid stirrup]

Useful to learn for when you want to send one through a cave though!

[cinder breach]

wait if someone ever ended the game how much hours is it?

[atomic notch]

Depends on skill level

[cinder breach]

just curiosity

[subtle kernel]

Anyone got time to show me how to make a proper bidirectional rail?

[placid stirrup]

No, but YouTube should

[naive pendant]

Total time to bear phase 3 is like 1/3 total time to beat the game.

[subtle kernel]

Youtube didnt help lol

[mortal ginkgo]

because thats a silly thing to do unless absolutely needed

If noone teaching you, there might be a reason not to 😛

[subtle kernel]

Lmao fair enough

[zenith pecan]

1 track, two ended train approach? shouldn't be a serious challenge.

[placid stirrup]

It really all depends what's connected to the bi directional rail, how many cars you have, etc

[mortal ginkgo]

Also what is there to show? Its literally.. a massive conveyor belt 😛

[placid stirrup]

Like the one I have goes into the cave with two separate stations, loops onto itself to return, then has a junction with two path options out. I just have to put two block signals - one on each path "out" - so the entire bi directional portion is one block. If a train is already on it, the other one has to wait

[sullen gull]

@outer saffron all nestled in the blue crater running like a champ! Nice man!

[sullen gull]

Yeah, for those types, I've always just did a single track, station at each end , and an engine on boths ends of the train. Straight in, straight out, simple and works as intended.

[placid stirrup]

Works for lines that only 1 train go on but yeah it doesn't need to be more complicated than this

I still typically do two lines if possible, BPing a support makes it go so fast

[quick sky]

how many assemblers and manufacturers do you guys have in your late game bases? ballpark estimate

[mortal ginkgo]

yes

[elder apex]

don't need to estimate, you can load your save up in SCIM and find the numbers easily. Right now for me at the end of phase 5 I'm at 669 assemblers/242 manufacturers.

[placid stirrup]

Nice assembler number

[molten dragon]

I asked about this a week or so ago and was advised to wait a while. I waited a while. My plan still exists, so, how sane is it is the question.....

The plan is to mine most resources in an area, then convey them up to a high level, so an established plateau level. I do this for every major zone, not necessarily biome.

Then I thought to link them to a 'central' manufacturing zone, where everything is made, not in a mega-factory but in a spread out zone.

[cinder breach]

wait and in future do yall think ill be needing ingots too?

[molten dragon]

To clarify, I haven't unlocked P4 yet but am very close

[cinder breach]

cause im not saving any

[placid stirrup]

Sounds like you'll be extracting more than you use at any given moment, which means you're consuming a bit more power than you need to. Otherwise you can certainly play the game that way, I just don't think it would look as pretty as if a factory was on the ground with the environment.

Also, a spread-out mega factory is still a mega factory

[molten dragon]

To clarify, when I say 'most' resources, I mean the best and moost closely clustered. Some outputs will naturally be ground level but I'm thinking mostly ores going up to the plateau, then spread out.

[cinder breach]

someone please respond?

[compact trail]

does anyone's game get fked when u alt tab a certain amt of times, it just freezes game cant do anything until i press windows key, restart wait for it to force quit and then cancel it and load back in steam?

[empty spoke]

whats like the best finisher for building? they look all the same for me

tried everything from chrome to caterium

[atomic notch]

Yeah just put a locomotive on each side

[frozen ingot]

i do this all the time so i'm gonna go with no

perhaps specific to your system and/or which mode you're running in?

windowed borderless is usually best for alt-tabbing out of the game a lot

[placid stirrup]

Try putting the game window on another desktop (Windows+tab) I had issues when tabbing out as well and that's mostly fixed it

[compact trail]

ill see

[compact trail]

when i tried to change the type of fullscreen and bordlerless the same crash happened where i had to window key reset then cancel, or else i was stuck lol

[atomic notch]

Yeah like if i tab out then click back in it gets weird but tabbing back in usually fixes it

[red sun]

don't bother storing ingots

make everything you need onsite

for example if you need reinforced iron plates, rather than bringing in your plates and screws from another factory, start straight from iron and make a dedicated RIP factory

saves so much headache later down the line

[atomic notch]

Nah trains and conveyors everywhere

[red sun]

i'm all for belt spaghetti but i don't want to be exporting tons of rods out of a centralised rod factory and have to keep track of how much is going where and how many rods i have left

[cyan meadow]

When I host a game (i9 with a 4080 card), my wife who connects (i9 2070 card), she doesnt see items on conveyors and some conveyors don't even load for her. When she hosts the same save file game, everything shows up. When I connect to her, I don't see some items & conveyors). If we upgrade her card, will we both see everything again? or has our factory gotten to the point where we both will never see the same things again regardless of who hosts the save file?

this recently just started happening when we broke into tier 4/5 and are making items with manufactures.

[placid stirrup]

What settings are you both using? Might just have to drop conveyor quality, perhaps some other settings until it's fixed

[grizzled lotus]

I faced this and it became very frustrating, and not in a fun way at all

although a bit extreme, I ended up starting a new run just so I can get a fresh start

[cyan meadow]

my settings are ultra, hers are medium. Game looks beautiful for whoever is hosting. It's just whoever is the client, they can't render all the items on belts, and even some belts never load at all. Network is ultra, we are in same house, we have fiber 1g internet.

we play through epic

[placid stirrup]

Certainly a strange one. I'd make a #1038092680493801533 post so it doesn't get as lost here

[cyan meadow]

just hate to drop $600 for a graphics card and it not fix the problem. her 2070 card works great for every game she plays. It's just recently (yesterday) that she noticed she's not able to render the game like it used to. I think our factory got too big.

i have a feeling upgrading her card will fix it, but in the off chance it doesn't i'd rather keep my $ for now lol

[sullen gull]

You could always get yourself a 50 series and give her the 40 🤣

[zenith pecan]

I'm giving the 50s a miss personally.

[cyan meadow]

LOL that is a fantastic idea, but that might get me the couch if she realizes what ive done, lol

[sullen gull]

Another thing to try, if you have some spare hardware laying around for a third PC, is you either throw windows on it if you have it, or setup a quick and dirty linux box and run a dedicated server. Take some of any load off of either of your PC's. Then, you can just leave the save running and log in at your leisure.

[sullen gull]

Honestly agreed. running a 9800x3d with a 4070TI in here and it's plenty for me.

[zenith pecan]

I'm still using my 3090 that I managed to buy only a day or so before the prices magically doubled, then shot up again, and a 12900k.

[placid stirrup]

Both my pal and I have run a DS with worse specs and have not had this particular issue. I imagine it's a settings related phenomenon, could try deleting cache or verifying game files

[grizzled lotus]

is there a way to put a marker so it shows on my compass?

[sullen gull]

The last icon on the right across the bottom of your map

You can set it to highlight, show up on the compass, etc. Just make sure to check the settings (the two icons on the title of each section listed on the left) so that they show up.

[sullen gull]

Yeah, I lucked out and got this 4070 for only like 600 If I recall.

[grizzled lotus]

thank you!

I'm about to set up factories away from my base so I don't have to sphaghetti everything

[sullen gull]

Hyper tube cannon's work wonders for 'early' game travel across the map if you need 😏

[grizzled lotus]

I haven't unlocked hypertubes yet on this run, but in my last save I did and I don't recall any cannons