How to properly create regions

[stone willow]

Hello, I'm somewhat new to the game. Been playing for a couple weeks, and came across some posts on the forum from 2017 detailing how to create regions. That said, I have questions, as it's possible the game may have changed since then:

1. In single cities, we can choose small or giant. Is it possible to have said city sizes in a region grid? The starting regions have only medium, big, huge and colossal, but I'd like to make my own region, which contains giant tiles and/or small ones too

2. What are the tile sizes of small and giant regions? Giant seems to be 8, but... assuming small can be added too, medium were noted to be 1 tile. Would that mean small are 0.5? Or have tile sizes been adjusted (small 1, medium 2, big 4, huge 6, colossal 8, giant 10)?

3. Again assuming these tile sizes can be used, what would a console command code be like? I tried this:

cr:{name:"My Region",seed:"1703110296",size:32,maps:[0,0,1, 0,1,1, 1,0,1, 1,1,1, 0,2,2, 2,0,2, 2,2,2, 4,0,4, 0,4,4, 4,4,4, 0,8,6, 8,0,6, 8,8,6, 16,0,8, 0,16,8, 16,16,8,]}

But... it hasn't worked. Of course, I'd prefer keeping the map square rather than circular.

Any and all help to better understand how creating regions in modern TheoTown are appreciated.

[tacit remnant]

I would suggest taking a look at the pinned resources in #seeds-n-maps

You have alot of text here so give me a second to read and understand it all! But in the meantime that may help you

[stone willow]

Read the pins

and seems console doesn't likey small. A shame.

Are there though ways to add them? I don't care how lol. be it files or whatnot

[tacit remnant]

Not to my understanding

Well

I wonder

[stone willow]

So sad small cities are only in Single Cities

[tacit remnant]

I suppose

[stone willow]

I was dreaming of doing sm like this

[tacit remnant]

You could likely take the small city maps, out of the maps folder

And then move them into the regions folder

And rename them accordingly to get them positioned properly

But I am not sure if that would work

[stone willow]

I'll try later and let you know lol

[tacit remnant]

But then again I see no reason that it couldn't given all the maps are just .city files

[tacit remnant]

Well Ja since you are here

Could you move a map from the small city from maps folder into a region folder and have it work?

Or would it being a .5 make it impossible

[faint dome]

As the sentence is highlighted, there's no way to place it on the region grid

[stone willow]

https://tenor.com/view/joe-hawley-joe-hawley-its-joever-joever-gif-18282355701517291166

Thanks for the info tho

[tacit remnant]

How is the tiles placed? Based on the upper left side?

[stone willow]

What about giant cities though? That should work.

Yet my code seems not to

[tacit remnant]

Because if that is the case couldn't you just put in in the 8_8 spot for example and then it would be flush in some regard

[tacit remnant]

I believe your map coords may not be spaced out correctly

[stone willow]

🙌 maybe, but I used the references to help myself

[tacit remnant]

cr:{name:"Example",seed:"123456",size:32,maps:[0,0,16, 16,0,16, 0,16,16, 16,16,16]}

[stone willow]

if anyone can fix the code to properly have the map be like this (but without the "small" squares in the bottom left) then that'd be great

Thats what my code should be after all

[tacit remnant]

Give this one a try, just to see if it works

I pulled that from a random discord message but it should prove the concept

[stone willow]

last number is size. Isnt giant 8?

instead of 16

[tacit remnant]

Hmm

Let me read on it more

Custom made regions were never something I was really good at

[stone willow]

Yeah for some reason despite Huge, Colossal and Giant taking up respectively 4, 8 and 16 tiles

they're labeled as 4, 6 and 8

[tacit remnant]

Yeah then go with 8

Which would then divide everything else by 2

Right?

[stone willow]

Everything except coords and actual size

Again, assuming how I read is correct

which would give me

cr:{name:"Example",seed:"123456",size:32,maps:[0,0,8, 16,0,8, 0,16,8, 16,16,8]}

[tacit remnant]

I will take your word for it, this is a learning experience for me too lol

Which is likely not what you wanna hear

[stone willow]

It's ok, appreciate the help

Ok so Giant didnt work, region was stuck loading

So I tried Colossal:

cr:{name:"Example",seed:"123456",size:16,maps:[0,0,6, 8,0,6, 0,8,6, 8,8,6]}

will try setting coords to 6 despite the fact they should be 8 tiles big...

[tacit remnant]

Well that is a step in the right direction... it loaded lol

[stone willow]

This vexes me

Does that mean that the city tiles in Tributaries are Giant? That would explain why 4 Huge seem to fit in (what I thought to be) a "Colossal" (actually a Giant)

[tacit remnant]

I guess the sense of scale seems off given the fact there are no small maps in them

[stone willow]

*medium but ye

maybe

[tacit remnant]

You pretty much have to bump everything one up from what you'd expect

[stone willow]

I guess then that is sizes are actually tile sizes, then this is how the map should be

I'll wait and see if anyone can confirm wether colossal are 6x6 tiles, or that is just the way they are designated

[tacit remnant]

@faint dome Can you confirm or deny?

[faint dome]

Formally speaking, city sizes are actually measured in tile width. The smallest map size (small) is exactly 32 tiles.

In region generation, the size argument is used as a multiplier:

• Medium map (smallest available in regions) is considered to be 64 tiles its size is 1
• Colossal map is considered to be 384 tiles, 384/64 = size 6

So yes, that makes colossal 6x6

[stone willow]

Neat!

And it seems it's almsot working...

wonder why it gets stuck

[tacit remnant]

Could be the nature of trying to do it on Android

What is the code your using, I can try it on PC

[stone willow]

cr:{name:"My Region",seed:"123456",size:22,maps:[0,0,1, 0,1,1, 1,0,1, 1,1,1, 0,2,2, 2,0,2, 2,2,2, 4,0,4, 0,4,4, 4,4,4, 8,0,2, 10,0,2, 12,0,2, 14,0,2, 0,8,2, 0,10,2, 0,12,2, 0,14,2, 2,14,2, 14,2,2, 4,14,2, 14,4,2, 2,8,6, 8,2,6, 8,8,6, 16,0,6, 0,16,6, 6,14,8, 14,6,8, 14,14,8]}

[stone willow]

Androids suck ass?

Damn

[tacit remnant]

Let me boot up the game!

[stone willow]

Thanks

[tacit remnant]

The nice thing is, once the region is made, it will be easy for a phone to load up

@stone willow

[stone willow]

Yeah… tried it on my iPhone too, it works

Guess Android I used just has skill issue

[tacit remnant]

Well atleast the code is right

Now you gotta find a good seed lol

[stone willow]

True. Also, gonna make a suggestion to the devs to please let us add small cities too