How can i edit/merge plugins with .plugin extension to reduce memory pressure

[olive sage]

So i wanted to merge .plugin file to reduce the memory pressure and eliminate "Out of Memory" crash during saving on the "Write Preview" section by replacing the HD preview images with much lower resolution images. Last version who supposed to "fix" this issue by downscalling the preview resolution didnt help. if there is no way to merge the plugins, please tell me where to download older version of theotown safely since playstore didnt provide us option to downgrade app version (version before 1.11.76)

[charred estuary]

No you can't merge plugins.

As far as I know.

And as far as the downgrade part maybe. I just don't know how

[olive sage]

i think you can with plugin who use folder

idk what to do anymore, how this game was "out of memory" because of plugin preview image on 12GB RAM phone. i can just keep hoping justanyone will really fix it one day

[charred estuary]

It's just a lack of ram on your device

Nothing anyone can do

Unless you upgrade your device

Or just keep trying to boot it until it works.

[olive sage]

"Lack of ram" bro nothing gone wrong before update 1.11.76.

[olive sage]

do you expect people to buy $1000 high end gaming phone just for theotown lol

[charred estuary]

What's the specific error

Like what does the whole thing say

[charred estuary]

Yep that's your classic java lang outta memory

[olive sage]

basically theres nothing i can do to fix this except by disabling some plugins which i use before without any issues

[charred estuary]

Did you add anything new?

(also closing other processes on your phone can help)

[olive sage]

i have no idea that the devs actually working to totally fix it or not. or they just ignored it because its considered "fixed" on version 1.11.82a

[olive sage]

ofc i do. nothing is running except theotown, 7GB of ram left unused

[charred estuary]

It's possible that JA was talking about something else.

Granted unlikely

[olive sage]

i didnt add anything new before. just updating some decals plugin who arent in the store. shouldnt affect much on the performances

[olive sage]

wym?

[charred estuary]

JA (short for Just anyone)

[charred estuary]

New maps?

[olive sage]

i know but what he's talking about?

full screenshoot

[charred estuary]

I don't know.

[olive sage]

nope

[charred estuary]

Have you tried the good old restart and try again? That works for me. other than that I'm stumped. I can ping someone more able though

[olive sage]

ofc i do, i mean this issue exist for ~2 months.

[charred estuary]

Look I dunno man. I'd be as frustrated as you.

[olive sage]

on the first save the game is doing fine, on the second save (right after the first save) it crashed on "write preview"

[charred estuary]

@deft phoenix ahem. Sorry to bother you. But I'm stumped

He says it's fixed? (JA)

[olive sage]

Technically yes : #updates message

[olive sage]

oh im about to ping JA lol

[charred estuary]

Don't

[deft phoenix]

By all means do

[olive sage]

Np man, thank you for the helps

[deft phoenix]

The soulation at this point is get a better phone lmao

[charred estuary]

Oh. Well my thoughts were if I remember correctly he didn't like pings.

And was going to ask you first

[deft phoenix]

Sure, your right

but he is the dev

[charred estuary]

I'm aware

[deft phoenix]

And with this issue, albeit recourring for Melon there's not much we can do

[charred estuary]

Yeah. Sorry melon

[deft phoenix]

So more direct dev intervention is required

[charred estuary]

Even with my 350$ phone it struggles a bit

[olive sage]

As a wise man said, "don't fix what's not broken". idk what happened inside the codes after Theotown 1.11.76 but it should be fixed on pre 1.11.76 conditions

[olive sage]

np man

[deft phoenix]

Sure, but if it generally does fix the issue for most and your a one off, then it's just one of those things

Annoying as hell for sure

But unless the devs can pinpoint some goofy nonsense that is making your game specifically not work then I am out of advice :/

[charred estuary]

Hmm. I honestly don't remember my phones cost

It was an estimate.

[olive sage]

I saw some people reported it too, also should i ping JA rn?

[deft phoenix]

But for them we fixed it

But just getting rid of some plugins

Which should work for yours

[olive sage]

yeah i was about to tell some unfunny jokes abt it but nvm (like extra $5 for mayo jokes idk)

[deft phoenix]

But I am assuming you have tried that

[olive sage]

i suggested him to add an option to disable plugin preview image completely before, since downscaled image wont help you much on finding something from specific plugin

im okay if the game displaying it as list as long it didnt crash my game

[deft phoenix]

Yeah I would suggest dropping him a ping

[olive sage]

very unfortunate i have to did it to fix the issue, since i used all of the plugins i downloaded.

[deft phoenix]

Well the nature of some of those are just large...

And not well optimized at times

[olive sage]

@thin terrace sorry for ping but the out of memory issues caused by plugin preview image during save (during write preview to be exact) didnt get fixed on version 1.11.82. since you didnt mention anything about it on the changelogs after that version on discord/forum, i assume you considered the issue was "fixed" when in fact its not fixed for me and a few people who reported the same issue before

[olive sage]

ik but no issue like this before bersion 1.11.76 other than small performance hiccup when the game displaying it. I can even install plugins until Texture page 11 (filled(~5% of the space) now i have to uninstall many plugins until it reach page 8/9

[thin terrace]

It has nothing to do with plugins, it crashes because the game cannot allocate a 16 megabyte buffer to store a map preview. The fix is to play on smaller maps.

[olive sage]

Can you add option to disable it completely please? or atleast change it to only take picture on where you saved the city like minecraft instead of screenshooting the whole map who probably wont displayed correctly especially on huge map (sometimes it just blank) on load city option. Also i've tried to enable lower map resolution option but it didn't help at all.

[olive sage]

bruh i will just downgrade Theotown if you didnt state that you're going to fix it

kinda frustating that i need to buy $500~$1000 phone just to play Theotown with too many plugins

[light canyon]

For real man, my theotown hasn't started since 2 weeks now, in my case the ram of my phone is 3gb so its expected, im shocked to found out that devices with more ram than 8gbs are encountering these issues. Guess just playing on pc is the option now (if i buy it)

In my case theotown works after i restart my phone, clear theotown cache, clean my storage (this used to work after some attempts) but now the chances of theotown loading into the game are next to rare 💀

[olive sage]

@deft phoenix it just get much worser than before. Looks like JA wont fix it because its totally my fault when the game performance just keep going down after many updates. now it crashed on the first save instead of the second one like usual, truly an upgrade 👍

idk anymore man, its going to be my last report about this issue and wait if anything even changed positively

[deft phoenix]

I don't think the blame is on you...

Your actively trying to build a large city

[olive sage]

i even removed so many plugins but still didnt work

[deft phoenix]

So of course as you build more it crashes more

Plus the build time on that map is insane

[olive sage]

i didnt add much stuff after/before i updated it

[deft phoenix]

I can only imagine what you have done on the map

It's not about how much you add

It's the fact that growing at all at this size is just alot for a phone to handle

Plus look at this map here, is it not completely forested?

or is the map just distorted

[olive sage]

but i had (almost, like 70%) fully developed a map with similar size in older Theotown version and i never had any issues with this memory stuff. My current city was nothing compared to that one in terms of density

[deft phoenix]

Similar size, but not equal?

[olive sage]

wait let me check it again

[deft phoenix]

If it is it maybe worth just clearing some of the tree cover lol

[olive sage]

i mean why cant just JA add an option to disable that huge ahh map preview when you load a city. it will helps a lot if you can do that. He never replied on that suggestion before so i assume he wont consider adding it for some reason
I mean its the best option to do if too much optimization wasnt possible because too much things was added behind the scene.

my old city before i decided to scrap it. ~2 days of total build time. densely populated and detailed in many areas (compared to the new one)

now i had to remove many plugins from that picture after 1.11.76 update

[deft phoenix]

Well, may I remind you that lobby is the main Dev. So JA might not have that decision-making capability

So putting entirely on him maybe wrong

But I understand your frustration

[light canyon]

I can relate to this, back in 2022 i didn't have this much crash issues but had long loading times (similar to now) but i remember when an update came and for sometime i couldn't tell that i was playing an unoptimized game before since the loading + game in general was faster and smoother than before even with a lot of plugins

[olive sage]

#updates message there is a new update who hopefully fixed my issues. havent updated yet since it still unavailable for me

[light canyon]

I did, absolutely nothing changed but that might be due to my Device

[olive sage]

the update fixed the issues for me. now i can enable hundreds of plugins