Vehicle Disappear after Saving and RAM related Issues

[eternal dome]

Hello, i want to report some bugs and issues
(some I found some time ago)

• After saving the game on the biggest map
  possible for android (105 km²) the game
  automatically zoomed out, the default background changed to gray, and all the vehicles dissapear (you can still see the vehicles by entering "delete mode"or
  "eyedropper mode" then the vehicle will run strangely (like shaking)

• Certain plugins cause massive performance
  drop and sometimes crashed for "Out of memory" error for some
  reason. I've been doing some experiments.
  by downloading more plugins who take more
  space and there is no issue at all. (might be the issue with the plugin itself but im not 100% sure)

• Out of memory error even though Theotown only takes around 1-1.5 gb of RAM and there is still plenty of ram available (Around 7GBs) so my suggestion is to increase theotown possible ram usage on certain devices (in case if the mentioned "out of memory" means out of RAM instead of VRAM)

Vehicle Disappear after Saving and RAM related Issues

Here is the crash logs

After Saving the games

Theres no new logs on logs.txt (only from yasterday about an error for a certain plugin so i didnt include that)

[subtle veldt]

Ptag crash

[torpid eagle]

When submitting a good crash report, please provide the details of when or under what circumstances the game crashed as well as the following files which can be found in TheoTown folder:

• crash.txt
• log.txt
• out.txt
  You can find out TheoTown's directory for your system by checking out Ptag files.

Moreover, if you can trigger the game to crash with the same error in a reproducible fashion, please mention that in your report as well as that helps us get it to crash on our own machines which in turn lets use fix it easier.

[subtle veldt]

It might be because you ran out of memory. having a very big region is bad for your device

What if you build a test city in a very large region and try to replicate the issue in that same area?

[wanton path]

No cuz like theotown isn't the only thing that's taking up your RAM. There are also background processes that also take up your ram. Try closing all background running apps and it may help with the issue a bit

[wanton path]

As for the plugin amount that could also be an issue, try deleting some plugins and see if it works

[eternal dome]

It was like 7GB of ram is still free so it must be the VRAM not RAM

[eternal dome]

im trying to fill my plugin space to texture page 11 (with less than 10% filling ratio) with another plugin and everything was fine (except sometimes, some minor performance drops)

[eternal dome]

ik, Log.txt doesn't contain anything that day (when the bug occurs) so there is no point of posting it here.

Also yeah uninstalling some plugin did helps but i use 80% of them and 20% are some deco plugins that i will use in the future

[wanton path]

Mobile phones use what is called "integrated ram". That's cuz a phone's architecture is different from that of a PC

[wanton path]

Just disable those you don't need. It'll help

[eternal dome]

What you mean by "integrated ram"? if android got no dedicated "Video RAM", theotown (or android) refused to take more than 512mb of my RAM

i hope there is a method to increase it without root access

[wanton path]

Integrated ram means the vram and ram are one

[eternal dome]

@wanton path bruh the situation got worse after 1.11.76a Beta Update 💀

Now i cant even save my game and need to disable some plugins. they take like 40% of a texture page only for night animation

i hope theres a way to remove all the night animation manually (or atleast some of then) or atleast an option to disable it for certain plugins

[eternal dome]

crashed during save when "Write Preview"

disabling plugins did help but i wonder why the game consume much more resources and much less plugin can be loaded after the update compared to the previous update. i hope devs fix it on the next beta

[wanton path]

it is a beta update after all hopefully the devs see your issue

[eternal dome]

should i ping one of them so they can look into it?

the issues still exist in version 1.11.78a

[eternal dome]

@sharp tiger Sorry for the ping, can you look into this please? Even after removing so many plugins (until it reach texture space page 8 (~30% space filled) from previusly page 10 without any issues before the update) during saving ("Write Preview")

On the first manual saving after entering the city the game didnt crash, but during the second one the issues persist

[sharp tiger]

Plugins in general have little impact on memory usage

Write preview creates the preview image, or fails in this case due to lack of memory

I don't remember the units used on the memory stats, if it's in KiB, you only have 524 MiB available with only 22 MiBs actually being free.

[eternal dome]

for some reason on a certain plugins who has so many "sub-category" the game started to stutter (like from totally fine and then freeze for a bit instead of lagging and freeze) regardless of the used plugin space and plugin size.

[eternal dome]

So you mean the game crashed when it takes the whole map preview used on "load city" section? If thats the case i hope you can add an option to make the city preview "screenshoot of the last zoomed area only" or even totally disabled it. Also the game consumes much more resources and the performances dropped when enabling many plugins (until texture page 10) since last 3~4 Beta build for some reason.

[eternal dome]

I don't know what is meant by "memory" here because this game only consumes ~1GB of my phone's RAM, so its like "Shared VRAM"? And Free Memory will return to ~54 MiB after reaching zero and so on.

[eternal dome]

@sharp tiger Still unfixed for me even after "Reduce memory consumption upon taking a map screenshoot". Removing plugins doesnt do much. Please fix the memory usage it on the next beta 🙏

[leaden glacier]

That is likely not something that is possible...

Taking a map screenshot is alot more intensive then you may think, even on PCs it's abit of work for them

[eternal dome]

Sorry but i was referring to "write preview" during the city saving which afaik "screenshooted" your whole city/map for preview on "load city" menu (correct me if im wrong since theres no definite explanation about it). this is why i thought the issues was fixed.

also i just noticed that this issues only exist after this version (previously got fixed by only disabling some plugins from texture page 10 30% filled texture to texture page 9 with ~90% filled texture) but now still unfixed on page 9 with 20% filled texture

[eternal dome]

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[eternal dome]

hmm still unfixed on my game for some reason

now the game failed to save the city on the first try instead on the second one and beyond