#Final Fantasy XIV

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golden garnet
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make it too challenging and people dont have a curve to get into raids

rancid iron
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-implying EXs aren't raids

golden garnet
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a stepping stone into real content

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i never said thyere not raids, i said that

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you make the ex primals genuinely difficult and now the only 8 man content casual players have is normal raids

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how do you go form that to savage prog with no experience?

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id like savage versions of primals, sure, but not if it means losing the entry level. only in addition to

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but we all know how stretched se is wiht ff14 as it is

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so ill take a fun but not dififcult ex primal

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at least until squaree starts putting th emoney ff14 earns back into it

woven oasis
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EX isn't very good at being a "stepping stone" into savage tbh

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there needs to be another form of content

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in-between them

golden garnet
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i mean you dont get much more challenging than ex wihtout it just being savage level

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id say its a perfect stepping stone

woven oasis
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you can clear EX on patch with like 20 deaths

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There usually are no body checks, and DPS check is non-existent

golden garnet
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you can clear the first 2 turns of many savage tiers in justr a s long

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so what would be the stop gap between somnething like doomtrain and the first turn of a tier?

woven oasis
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savage "light"

golden garnet
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so ex

woven oasis
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same savage, but maybe some of the mechs are with markers, dps check is easier, and some mechs are easier in general

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but not to the braindead levels of EX

sterile moss
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You mean like savage 4 man content?

golden garnet
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so ex

sterile moss
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Like...ASS?

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That's the mid point you want

woven oasis
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no, criterion is its own content

sterile moss
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Its higher then extreme

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But is savage level of mechanics and positioning requirements

woven oasis
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criterion savage is actually MORE difficult than savage raids, and i'd say even ultimate

golden garnet
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the 4 man content is good, but its not the same as 8 man content. i feel like its less of a steeping stone into savage and more of a side quest to savage

fierce snow
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One day ill do criterion

golden garnet
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same. too many loot brained people just dismiss it instantly

woven oasis
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rewards are important

golden garnet
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hard to get a group thats decent and not like "well my numbers dont go up so theres no point playing the game"

woven oasis
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there is no reason to do content more than once if there are no good rewards

golden garnet
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idcx about doing ti more thna once. i care about doing it once

fierce snow
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Hence why i never formed a group

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Its always more so

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Hey wanna do this? No? Ok

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Or i dont even ask if they dont want to play ff

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Or busy as fk

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Mostly the last two cause most ppl i would ask arent trying to play ffxiv too much

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Or busy

golden garnet
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one day poeple will rememebr that they play games to have fun, and the digging th etunnel is the reason you play, not reahcing the diamonds

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but that days not today

fierce snow
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Goal at the end etc

golden garnet
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meanwhile i realise that the goal is in the doing

sterile moss
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The content difficulties are vertical in this game
Baseline is 4man content i.e story dungeons
Slightly above that is 24 man's
Above that is normal raids/story
Criterion
Above that is neir 24mans
Potd/and releated content just cuz of the sheer rng
Extremes
Savage criterion
Savage raids
Ultimates

golden garnet
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journey before destinaiton etc

woven oasis
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If you had a dream job, would you do it for free?

woven oasis
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When ppl put effort and time into something, they need to get something out of it

golden garnet
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fun

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thats the something

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its a game, not a job

woven oasis
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for you fun is enough

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for someone it isn't

golden garnet
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one day yall will realise it too

woven oasis
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not everyone is the same

golden garnet
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why did you start playing the game to begin with?

woven oasis
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because i like FF

golden garnet
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was it to get betetr loot?

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exactly

woven oasis
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i do want to get better loot

golden garnet
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thats why youre playing. the loot is the carrot on the stick that obfuscates it

pale elm
golden garnet
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i went to visit that guy

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what a hero

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i assume theyre supposed to be the bst mobs

fierce snow
pale elm
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That’s what I though too

fierce snow
rancid iron
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The thing with rewards in XIV is

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We can have it both ways

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Good rewards AND a good time

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So when the rewards are shit its objectively inferior

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and that's just fact

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Because of one simple thing: time why go through the effort of learning the fight(s), prepping food, materia and then the biggest hurdle finding a group you can stick with long term

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Even just one of those things is a colossal fucking pain so if there's no incentive beyond "do it for fun XDD" there's no real point for the majority of people

golden garnet
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im just saying people putitng so much stock in the rewards and ignoring the content that dpoesnt number go up are just goign to get bored of number go up,. or just forget theyre supposed to be having fun to begin with

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like if you want to spreadsheet then there are far better games for that

crimson niche
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i mean

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even if the content has reward

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i still dont wanna do it if its not my type of content

fierce snow
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As a funny sid bit

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I got my friend into savage for one reason

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A dye able coat

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He needed it for his faraam cosplay

crimson niche
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anyway

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did the lv 1. lived

golden garnet
crimson niche
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i dont even care for

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gear upgrade most of the time

golden garnet
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same. in ff i just figure out my bis, follow that map and when its done its done idc

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im there to play, not to get 3s of dopamine

crimson niche
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i do savage purely because of friend

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now that i didnt join stal for savage this time

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because of health issue , idk if i will care about doing it

golden garnet
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i enjoy the content, but yeah also to me it's to hang out wiht friends and do somethign challenging together

fierce snow
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I just get bis on few jobs so i can play with friends

golden garnet
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same reasons i play arc raiders, or lethal, or phasmo or w/e

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just to have fun

fierce snow
sterile moss
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Enjoy this meme freshly created today

crimson niche
nocturne frost
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never really got people who'd say that gear rewards from criterion would somehow fix the thing(maybe it'd help a bit dunno). gearing overall is very boring and I hope they try to come up with something more exciting.

sterile moss
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We shud downgrade to a single ring slot

rancid iron
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They can't change gear not without copy pasting the gear idea from the exploration zones

sterile moss
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Obviously 2 rings is to much effort for se

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Cant have you wear 2 savage rings or 2 tome rings

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That would be unbalanced

golden garnet
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the pass is Carbonara if youre still waiting

sterile moss
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Insert SpongeBob meme here

golden garnet
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not a lot is up, but some things are

rancid iron
sterile moss
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Blu was a mistake and so will be beast master

rancid iron
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Indeed

sterile moss
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Too much effort to give them content

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Same with housing

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And free companies

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And subs

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Airships

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Why all these half baked ideas?

rancid iron
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Not even a hard fix either just lock the party out if there's even a single limited job

golden garnet
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they gave airships content in the past and it fell on its ass

nocturne frost
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grand company seals

golden garnet
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but in all fairness diadem sucked ass

sterile moss
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Why does my friends list have to refresh when I want to bulk clear friends who quit

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Why doesnt it show me last login date

nocturne frost
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why pvp team menu is so much better than friends list.

rancid iron
sterile moss
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Grand company trusts another abandoned half baked content

golden garnet
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you used to have to have a company airship to go

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then eventually they dropepd that

sterile moss
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Mentor is half baked as well can we just get rid of it as well

rancid iron
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Mentor sysem perfeclty fine its the rewards that need to be banished to the ether

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Ironic considering what I was saying earlier

sterile moss
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Mentor has no real checks and balances on how you act in the group channel

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It doesnt require any effort to just camp in it all day

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Using a slot when someone who wants to help cant get in

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The roulette itself is ass, the rewards to little for the amount of bull that's in it

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Yes I want to do rathalos ex and striking tree extreme

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Thank you mentor roulette

rancid iron
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You're a mentor you're supposed to be able to do that content and help sprouts learn it

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West doesn't raw dog EXs but JP does

sterile moss
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Jp actually use raid finder the correct way instead of dog piling public pf

rancid iron
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Indeed and they actually make use of the housing districts as intended

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Instead of west where its empty and uncanny

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cuz there's no one around

sterile moss
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Afk at fc/private house

Afk in limsa main aeth

rancid iron
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That too

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But I didn't count it for obvious reasons

sterile moss
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Dont get me wrong, I love 14, ive been playing it since 1.0
But it has a lot of problems and half thought out ideas that were implemented they still havent fully addressed
Trusts are great, sadly it came at the cost of grand company trust first and that came at a cost of limiting how much grand company could evolve. We still dont have max ranks shown on its own tab

crimson niche
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Trust isnt great for mmo imo

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Multiplayer game but implement solo play

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Its good but its not

rancid iron
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It will be when they allow CT on trusts

crimson niche
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Like i understand ppl get nervous

sterile moss
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Because they keep trying to allow more and more casual players reach endgame

crimson niche
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But its a mmo

sterile moss
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Remember when you could fail a duty cuz ur gear wasnt up to snuff?

crimson niche
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Yoy gonna get use to it eventually

rancid iron
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Its more then that they treat XIV as a single player FF first

sterile moss
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Last one was in storm blood right out the gate

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Now they have an easy mode

crimson niche
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It all begin with the vault

sterile moss
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Better get used to rahbaun and Pippin talking about that mech and how badass it is and the amount of guards around it

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As the nearby hornet wrecks your chocobo for the billionth time

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Why are there no I-level restrictions on dungeons that matter yet? Or roulette
We only just got them on alliance cuz how many kept cheesing it to only do CT

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A lv 90 character should not have 80 gear

crimson niche
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i just dont like ff14 system in general

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maybe im too used to gw2 freedom

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but gw2 "get 1 gear and you good" also not that fun

sterile moss
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Speaking of, why do we only get some gear pieces in msq if its designed to fix that issue? Why are selective pieces side quests only? What do u Mean my lv 55 gloves are from this side quest back in western highlands that isnt even apart of aether currents?

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Im already in hinterland

crimson niche
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i think only shadowbringer expansion

sterile moss
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This is another half baked idea they needed to fix

crimson niche
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the gear start to get better in msq

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but not til the 50% of the msq

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because the gear is still shittier than previous raid gear

sterile moss
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That's just how they do scaling in general

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Thats a different issue altogether

crimson niche
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yea im pretty sure

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qitana ravel is where you get 1st gear upgrade

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its so bad LMAO

sterile moss
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It is, for that expansion

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The real problem with shadowbringers was

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How armor scaled

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Tanks melt in holminster

crimson niche
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i remember in shadowbringer

sterile moss
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Even with 1 pack pulls

crimson niche
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the mob is so fking tanky

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its unreal

fierce snow
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I love holominster

sterile moss
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There was one dungeon in storm blood that also gave tanks wearing raid gear a huge kick in the face

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Its the one in the plains with a fucking "know ur mechanics" boss

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That does "no damage"

crimson niche
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the mob there

sterile moss
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Yup

crimson niche
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is fking stupid

sterile moss
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Bardams was a step in the right direction to force common raid mechanics into the brains of the lowest denominator

fierce snow
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Also a good time

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I love these dungeons

sterile moss
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But they panicked and shifted back

fierce snow
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Fun to tank and heal

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Except now im a dps main i guess so

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Uhh

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Unga bunga

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Me bonk

sterile moss
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Nier raid should have been another step up to get the lowest denominator into a better mechanics check

fierce snow
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Bardams no bonk

sterile moss
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But they scaled it back a lot

crimson niche
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they so afraid

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of alliance raid

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after heavensward alliance raid

sterile moss
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Thundergod says hellow

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Now its thunder who?

crimson niche
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thundergod is the only one

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that wipe me

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for 2 hrs straight

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and voted abandon

sterile moss
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Things r so watered down now its almost pure water and there's no grit no dirt no emotion

nocturne frost
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I was doing weeping city day one and ran out of 2h instance timer

sterile moss
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No desire to get better

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I can play any class to a high blu, low purple without even consulting balance. I don't have to be in the most optimal raid gear, the best melds

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I can die 6 times a fight and the party can still clear

crimson niche
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its funny

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im not that hype about new raid tier at all

sterile moss
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I like doom train cuz nostalgia

fierce snow
sterile moss
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Ill forget half these bosses within 3months of clearing them

fierce snow
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Chcullain or however its spelt

sterile moss
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But I can tell you, I still remember all of Alexander teir

fierce snow
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It was the allaince raid decider

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So many wipes on it

sterile moss
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I still know all their mechs and gimmicks

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I cant remember anything from eden teir

fierce snow
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Thundergod wasnt as bad compared to me

crimson niche
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i remember most of stormsblood raid

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not alexander

fierce snow
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Hw ones were rough

crimson niche
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i afked

fierce snow
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A9 also so many wipes

crimson niche
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the whole shadowbringer raid

rancid iron
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I miss weeping city

sterile moss
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I could not do any of Gaia time stops anymore

crimson niche
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you know why i afked the most shadowbringer?

sterile moss
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I still vaguely remember my spot in lions

crimson niche
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it was pso2 time

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and then ngs happen

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back to ffxiv POLmao

rancid iron
crimson niche
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nah

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shadowbringer

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it was still base pso2

rancid iron
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OH I see

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I didn't see the play time

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Unless you actually played 3.5k hours of NGS

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To which I would have to ask

crimson niche
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i think

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i played like 100hr of ngs

rancid iron
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Why do you hate yourself

crimson niche
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i really tried

rancid iron
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Dude fuck NGS I'm still pissed they killed classic for that

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They literally shoved classic out to NA finally and then speedran like a decades worth of content in a single year or some shit and then killed it once and for all for NGS

sterile moss
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Ultimates are probs the last real difficult content of the game, and I tapped out at tea because the amount of effort to learn it burnt my entire static out that doing regular savage was more preferable, some have cleared others afterwards, but that was the real last time I felt like my job had its own issues in a fight [I was dragoon at the time]

crimson niche
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TEA took me 6 months in a static

sterile moss
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Bout how long mine did as well to clear

rancid iron
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Jesus if they thought TEA was rough they would've started their villain arc on TOP

crimson niche
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and then i join another static after not clearing

sterile moss
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We got 2 clears then dropped

crimson niche
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and they fresh to clear

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in 7 days

sterile moss
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Tea is also when multiple plug-ins started really killing the learning curve

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God forbid nobody have melon in ucob

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Or is it uwu

crimson niche
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thats all i have for ulti weapon

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i didnt do fru because of health issue

woven oasis
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damn i really need to clear uwu at some point

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my favorite glow probably

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at least in color choice

sterile moss
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Automatic discord call outs, and "weak auras" saying exactly where to stand made it so that a majority can clear if all they do is pay attention

rancid iron
sterile moss
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Theres even bots out there that can move u correctly

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So all u do is push ur rotation

crimson niche
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nah i didnt get all the weapon

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some ultimate i just clear a few and call it

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its way too tiring

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out of all ulti

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i hate uwu the most

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because all the old ultimate im late to the party

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the dps check is way too easy and skipping phases

rancid iron
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The curse of potency buffing

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It retroactively affects older content

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and the only fix for it is to have the ultimates only have you use the buttons from that expansion with their potencies in tact at release

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and we all know that's a good idea so it won't be implemented

golden garnet
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and suddenly nobody will do ultimates

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cause they can tplay the class they main, only trhe class their unc mained 10 years ago

rancid iron
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Welp guess they're skipping phases then

sterile moss
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Pct in uwu is a huge dps skip

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So is dancer

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I forget which is was but the changes go either arms length or silence changed how you react to a certain mechanic making it easier since ull have more then just 1 option or it cooldown faster

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I cant remember which one it was

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Ah right from storm blood it was 60s cooldown

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Shadowbringers turned it into a 2 minute

golden garnet
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i think the solution to this stuff is them doing unreal scaling on ultimates, but they wont do that cause its such a niece content tobegin with

sterile moss
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Unreal ultimate weapon ultimate

crimson niche
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im saving totem

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for new job weapon for old ulti

sterile moss
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Better get 20 to be sure

golden garnet
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rememebr when they promised thta and then added it to 1 fight HideThePain

crimson niche
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since when they add to 1 fight

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which one

golden garnet
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pct and vpr to top

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that wa sin 7.0 or 7.1

crimson niche
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i dont even remember

golden garnet
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and i thought "yeahg sick ok ill gte a dsr viper weapon next patch then right?"

crimson niche
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is top 6.0 fight?

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i dont remember anymore

golden garnet
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yeah top was in ew

golden garnet
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nah, im still waiting on fc summoned primals

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surely now ct is done it'll be next

rancid iron
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Nope you get void ark instead and fall asleep cuz its boring as shit

golden garnet
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void ark was hype tho

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back on old scaling the fights were interesting, and all the hype leading up to its announcement wiht the ark showing up in chruning mists and sea of clouds was fun

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i wish theyd do more teasing shit like that again

rancid iron
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Was it really tho? Cuz all I heard was people bashed it cuz it was boring a distinct downgrade from WoD

nocturne frost
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yeah void ark wasn't that well received. basically only the 3rd fight was liked.

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also 3.1 was rough time in general.

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I had fun tho as I was just properly getting into basic endgame weekly tome loop and unlocking tons of old content. Also leveling other jobs took way longer back then so had hands full.

golden garnet
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i liked it

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my firends liked it

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mmo gamers hate everything, especially if its current content

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but yeah hw was bottom of the barrel expansion other than its msq

rancid iron
golden garnet
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nah shb wasnt as bad as hw

rancid iron
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Exactly it wasn't hated on current

crimson niche
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i think

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ff ddos again

woven oasis
reef flame
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they did a video reviewing soken

pale elm
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Yeee

fierce snow
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is aether still the home of pf?

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nvm

pale elm
grizzled nova
idle wren
# pale elm

I almost didn't recognize that was the pagos top dyed black

woven oasis
viscid pike
crimson niche
wind jackal
tranquil nexus
slim marlin
tranquil nexus
fickle talon
slim marlin
gritty oriole
tranquil nexus
orchid rapids
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I won the m9 music roll with a 69

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holy moly

woven oasis
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NICE

pale elm
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But not 67

slim marlin
wind jackal
fierce snow
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i realize this as i craft

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this is the wvr wep

crimson niche
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ddos again

worldly swan
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the wf raid is doomed for NA

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They are just gonna DDoS the hell out of NA

idle wren
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If DDoS has an outsized impact on RWF I would actually laugh my ass off

fierce snow
lunar citrus
fierce snow
lunar citrus
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OH

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my friend sent me this LOL

fierce snow
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dw

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this is recent post

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like

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7min ago

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its funny with caption too

woven oasis
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dead game

sterile moss
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Play tank instead myshapeeks

woven oasis
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i don't have any on this character

sterile moss
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If you can travel to aether ill be free in an hour if u wanna catch a tank stalalaHeart

woven oasis
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i'm on EU, so i can't 😄

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but thanks for offer

rancid iron
woven oasis
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i am a tank main

rancid iron
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Oh good then you don't need me to explain

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:v

sterile moss
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If anyone is NA my offer is valid for anyone who needs it. Just ping me stalalaHeart

woven oasis
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finally, the penetration strat

wind jackal
earnest zealot
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Massive

woven oasis
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Also why did they make the codes that massive? They literally don't fit in the pf description window awaree

worldly swan
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my first guess is... they use RDB's for these systems... so they have to build a unique ID that is "scalable" with their infrastructure plus has some encryption to avoid threats

woven oasis
worldly swan
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I work with those databases on a daily basis... there's a lot of "good practices" that you have to follow on the corporate world

reef flame
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encryption is only needed when the data itself is vulnerable

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like a password

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but if you a sharing a code for raid planning, doesn't look like it

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you could use a hash instead

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the idea being that you don't know what hash belongs to whom, you can guess, but there would be millions of hashes

rancid iron
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Here's my guess

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See back in the old days when game's didn't have a "save" file as you'd know it

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Game's had passwords like Doom on the PS1 which was an alphanumeric code

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Input that and it determined the level, inventory and stats giving the illusion of preserved progress

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I suspect something similar is going on here where each alphanumeric determines with each part of the code and how the board is placed with the icons even the arena shape hell even naming it might make it longer

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and those old codes could get real fuckin long

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Oh and the code? You completed a level and the code was flashed on screen and you had to write it down

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Now TBH you could make the code shorter but they could also make the PF popup bigger

woven oasis
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i think they should just make the max character limit in pf desc at least as big as the code can be

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that's a lazy fix, sure, but it would help

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finally, after 10 years of having this acc

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2 years in ARR were on different one because steam version only appeared with HW

earnest zealot
rancid iron
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Not to flex buuut...been playing this account since late endwalker

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My secret? Always wall to wall (yes even in sastasha don't be a weak bitch have faith in your healer), rotate mits, occasionally glance at the vuln stacks someone has and ensure the healers don't have to revive them and fight like hell

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and have a good look of course

fickle talon
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ITS

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1PM

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PST

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SERVERS PLEASE

sterile moss
woven oasis
sterile moss
woven oasis
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NOOOOOO

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rip Lvl 1 .

fierce snow
rancid iron
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and some people wonder why I keep defaulting to "spaghetti code" like 95% of the time

idle wren
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I don't think anyone who is a developer and has personally dealt with spaghetti code wonders that. But I would be curious of a technical explanation of how that crashed the servers.

reef flame
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well the only way i see it is some unhandled exception/error

idle wren
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I'm also curious where on the lodestone they found that

reef flame
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because

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the other way would be some massive amount of connections, like due to the ddos stuff

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but then the wording would blame the ddos

idle wren
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Very possible, and even likely in fact, that I'm just missing it but I'm not seeing the page with those notes.

tranquil nexus
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I'm going to commit a violence

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@steady flicker

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I AM UNLEASHING THE HONKS

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CODE "HONKVASION"

steady flicker
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no idea why but i follow the call

tranquil nexus
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What's been going on for the past fucking week and a half?

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The servers fucking exploding repeately

rancid iron
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Someone with a micro penis keeps DDoSing the ISP's that XIV uses

tranquil nexus
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They ain't gonna have NO junk when I'm done with them

rancid iron
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Just undies and a YH trademark huh?

steady flicker
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dont ask me im not subbed since months

tranquil nexus
#

shit's going straight to LiveLeak

rancid iron
#

Mr Happy put out a thing that can help

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use a VPN and pick the right connection to bypass it

#

Its literally the best we can do since stabbing someone is apparently or so I'm told very bad

crimson niche
#

I really dont think its retainer ddos tho

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Since it doesnt affect oce and jp dc right?

fierce snow
#

Yeah i think its cope

woven oasis
tranquil nexus
#

yeah

golden garnet
#

Brush my static suddenly fell apart right now on boxing day and now I have to find a new team on time for the 6th despite the fact that I'm busy with family until new year

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Just half the team like "i wasn't sure if I wanted to commit to another tiers I thought I'd wait until a week before the next to let yall know"

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Like thanks. Sure wish you said that before I crafted up your sets

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People are so damn inconsiderate cause it's a game, as if it's not our real life time and effort 💀

pale elm
#

Oof

woven oasis
earnest zealot
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Did my first forked tower session

#

Going from fresh to last boss 50% was not on my plan but let's fucking go

woven oasis
#

most of runs are done by ppl with a lot of experience so it's usually should go pretty well, as long as nobody greed

#

grats tho! couple more runs and you'll get a clear

slim marlin
golden garnet
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i gotta do forked tower tooo! i skipped it during all the rush cause of how poorly organised it made the raids become

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it looks cool

slim marlin
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Working on my 100 for Forked Tower. At 75 at the moment. Really the big wall for learners is Dead Stars because you can’t skip any of their mechanics and a lot of them have raid wipe potential. Meanwhile, Marble Dragon and Magitaur difficulty can be greatly reduced by a good shotcaller.

woven oasis
#

Hardest boss of Forked is a bridge

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People need a goddamn leash there

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To not run ahead and wipe everyone

slim marlin
#

I am the firm believer of pre-popping traps

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Can’t blow up the bridge if the traps aren’t there

earnest zealot
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first boss was one pull
Second boss was two pulls
bridge was a one shot
marble dragon had one yolo pull cause we lacked time

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and second run of the session was up to boss 4 50%

earnest zealot
#

next time ewiup

golden garnet
#

i managed to get 5 trials in the hour i was looking KEK screw those previous guys. i'll be fine

fickle talon
#

my groups slaccing till week 4-5 since someone is bzy slaccmonki

slim marlin
tranquil nexus
tranquil nexus
golden garnet
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ive noticed a ton of midcore statics contacting me like "we're looking to raid 2 times per week for 2 hours each" like??
what do people think midcore even means?

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i think people are more ashamed to call themselves casual im ngl

rancid iron
#

Ya see people have this thing they gotta do called "jobs" its not like the jobs of XIV its a thing you do pretty much all day to make this thing called money

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Cuz don't forget you can be a midcore skill level player but have no time at all

golden garnet
#

well sure, but a midcore static isnt midcore if theyre going 4 hours per week

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and dont be pedantic, i ahve a job too

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a great player can be in a casual team. the skill level isn't what makes a team casual or midcore or hardcore

rancid iron
#

Don't be pedantic? Where's the fun in that? :v

fierce snow
#

midcore is a broad term

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like almost any static can call themself midcore

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hell stals group can be considered midcore

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cause they aint raiding w1

golden garnet
#

i think people are just afraid to call themselves casual cause it has such a negative connotation, even if it perfectly describes their attitude and goals

fierce snow
#

midcore can range from 2 days 2hrs, to w1 clear

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literally

idle wren
#

The terms used to define statics never have solid definitions and always vary widely by person. Especially the most populated of those, midcore, where the definitions range the widest.

If you're looking for a group by making a post somewhere or something I'd put the time commitment you're looking to make instead of vague and arbitrary classifications of commitment.

golden garnet
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I did, but yeah i had a lot of poeple coming out and messaging me with very casual coded goals. literally one was "3 hours per week with an optional extra day no guaranteed clear on patch"

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but everybody wants to say theyre midcore

idle wren
#

I feel you're too hung up on the term. What matters, in my opinion, is the intent to clear the content eventually regardless of how much time per week you can actually afford to dedicate to that goal.

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Not all groups have that intent. Some just do it for fun and of they don't clear then cool.

crimson niche
#

If they dont clear , dont make a static

idle wren
#

Either way I'd worry less about vague, arbitrary, and meaningless labels and more about specifying the schedule and raid environment you're looking for. Then those people should know from that that you would or would not be interested in raiding for x many hours a week. (Not that that will necessarily stop all of them from contacting you, but I'd expect it would a good chunk)

crimson niche
#

Just get a friend group , not a static that have other people in it

golden garnet
#

yeha i usually raid with friends. just this tier it fell apart cause half the team decided this last week that they dont wanna raid this tier :^)

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one of the teams im trialling wiht is with one of my friends from the old team tho. im hoping that one works out for us

crimson niche
#

I dont understand making a static with a mindset of not clearing

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If they take longer sure

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But if its fine not clearing then..

golden garnet
#

yeah right?

crimson niche
golden garnet
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like fair enough if you dont want w1/2, or you're like "we clear when we clear" but if youre not aiming to kill in 4 months??

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like whatre we doing here

crimson niche
#

Like we all know ff14 is a reward driven game

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Its why content with no reward , no one cares about them

golden garnet
#

but the reward is the time with the fwends

brave aspen
#

hey does anyone know how they learned there job in ff14? kinda lost on how to go about learning jobs n the balance is kinda overwhelming (little) stalalaHmm

rancid iron
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It took waaay longer then it should've for me

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But I followed someone's elses rotation and just muscle memoried it

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Smacked a dummy between dungeon queues till I can do the rotation on autopilot

woven oasis
# brave aspen hey does anyone know how they learned there job in ff14? kinda lost on how to go...

Basics : learn your opener and main priorities/drifts/gimmicks of your rotation.
You can practice opener in Stone Sky Sea because it resets your cooldowns, and then hit the dummy for at least 6 minutes continuously.
Dummy is not for everyone tho, i get bored and lose focus by the end of my burst worryblaurgh

From there you go to normal raids, then extremes to learn how to apply your rotation in the active fight.

And then you decide if you wanna delve deeper into optimization or not, there are plenty of resources on Balance. Although i personally don't enjoy reading 50 pages of text with advanced math formulas sprinkled here and there.

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You don't actually need to do these giga optimizations to clear 99% of the content. Basics are more than enough, deep optimization is mostly for parse monkeys

rancid iron
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I know enough to not be griefing and autopilot it

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Unless the targets HP is low in a dungeon then I just hold it so I can get full value when I do use my stuff

crimson niche
#

weekly reset

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back to expert roulette

idle wren
# brave aspen hey does anyone know how they learned there job in ff14? kinda lost on how to go...

Largely agree with what Tera said.

Learn your basic rotation first and what the most important parts of the gimmick of your job are (what your job gauges are and how they function etc).

Then get familiar with your ogcd abilities so you know what you have access to. Read all your tooltips and develop an understanding of how things work together.

Then learn your opener after you've got both of the above on lock. Stone, sky, sea is great for learning your opener because you can leave and rejoin and it resets all your abilities.

The balance has information you may use in any of these steps. But I'd treat it as a reference manual instead of trying to take everything they say in at once. Focus on one piece of the puzzle first.

Then just practice a lot in real content until you get comfortable. Once comfortable, practice in content you find more challenging. I've personally found both Alliance Raids and Normal Raids to be great for this when starting out with something new before eventually moving into extremes / savage.

slim marlin
reef flame
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also they forgot 1 step to learning the job

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learn your ping

woven oasis
#

Uncle Noclippy or grandpa Alexander solve most ping issues (unless you have like 110+)

rancid iron
#

Only small problem

#

Just throwin it out there

#

Shits fuckin illegal yo

woven oasis
#

Yoshi-p himself said he doesn't care what you use until it starts affecting the game noticeably (botting, bag abusing), you scream about using mods, link mods or harass others based on mods

rancid iron
#

Totally unrelated

#

What's rule number 1 of fight club?

slim marlin
woven oasis
idle wren
#

I really should try noclippy or uncle Alex one day

#

I've got like 90 ms because SE is a small indie company who refuses to invest in East coast servers or any modern cloud infrastructure

golden garnet
#

one tip i give to new players trying new classes that start over level 50 is if you feel overwhelmed, go down into some lower level content where you have less skills so you can figure out what the core of your rotation is

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a lot of classes now start with 10+ abilities and traits and its easy for a new player to see that and nope out

rancid iron
idle wren
rancid iron
#

Or if you're a monk main

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Seriously at one point it was rough to be a monk main

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Imagine the pali rework but every mid expansion and fresh expansion

woven oasis
#

i don't need to imagine

#

every expansion you literally had to learn a new job

rancid iron
#

Sigh a fellow bane user

#

Don't lie you miss being able to spread 4 DOTs at once

woven oasis
#

you couldn't spread 4

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only 3

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Bio 2, Bio and Miasma

#

Shadow Flare was a ground aoe

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and Miasma 2 wasn't spreadable

#

just aoe around you

#

if i remember correctly, you could also take Thunder from thaumaturge?

#

dunno for sure

rancid iron
#

Ahh but you forget

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Miasma II

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iirc it was actually a potency gain if you used it with contagion

woven oasis
rancid iron
#

Was it not? thinker

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I guess people marked the biggest thing with the DOTs and then miasma II

brave aspen
golden garnet
#

yeah you learn your rotaiton piece by piece as you level up, but i mean more simply: 5 things are easier to learn than 12.

#

when you know 5, learning 7 more is easy becuase you already know how half the kit works

slim marlin
#

I like monk for this because the core of the job doesn’t change after 60. It just gets things added on to it or improved.

1-59 is learning the rotation of the combo, of how one attack flows into another and picking based on what you need. 60 introduces the core gimmick in perfect balance blitz. Everything past that adds a little more. 70 introduces a couple buffs to combo with your big hits. 80 introduces tools to help you keep uptime. 90 upgrades a few of the attacks you were already using. And 100 gives you little extra attacks onto your buffs that help your combo.

rancid iron
#

Oh and I feel like this is painfully obvious but I've seen it WAAAAY too many times

#

READ THE TOOLTIPS

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Pls don't be another XIV player who doesn't read

#

Read is slowly if it helps but as long as you read it

slim marlin
#

The amount of people that don’t know things like Arm’s Length applying a slow to enemies that hit you, or that Feint/Addle applies to the other damage type is too many.

tranquil nexus
#

so it took me a while to get used to it being a cooldown

tranquil nexus
viscid pike
sterile moss
#

Yall got anymore meme board to share

crimson niche
golden garnet
#

Yeah that's how I learn my rotatos I'm ngl. I read through all the abilities to understand how the rotation works, and then try to figure out the better way to order things so they fit into a burst, or whatever buffs/gauge the class has

#

Once I understand how it all works i look at balance to see if there's minor changes, or if I misunderstood something

#

But that's daunting to a new player opening any of the jobs that start 50+

woven oasis
#

they will never make a sidequest as peak as DRK 30-50 and 60-70 storylines

woven oasis
wind jackal
woven oasis
rancid iron
#

SO when are we getting mandatory ilevel and job stones for content?

#

Don't have either? Welp guess yo ass is banished to the FATE dimension

idle wren
#

9.0

rancid iron
#

Not soon enough

fierce snow
#

one quick expert before bed

#

ddos

#

ok

slim marlin
#

ty exitlag

#

6 for 6 so far

golden garnet
#

its crazy that na has been having so many ddos problems. thye didnt hit eu once as far as i know, after the first wave way back

golden garnet
#

is oce getting hit with them too? if not might be worth raiding there if you can play wiht the ping

rancid iron
#

Not that I've heard

#

Its because NA infrastructure is hot fucking garbage

#

Like its not even XIV directly either they're fucking with, the assholes been DDoSing nodes adjacent to the ones that XIV is linked to

idle wren
#

and yet XIV is the only service I know of that has been suffering from the attacks in the way it has

#

might actually make me feel a bit better if I knew it wasn't just XIV lol

rancid iron
#

My guess is the stress threshold is lower for XIV

#

Even indrectly there's still a connection point and I think that link is waaaay more thin then other things tied to that

#

Either that or the linked node is XIV exclusive

brave aspen
woven oasis
rancid iron
#

Why is a primal being summoned? Ascians.
Why is Garlemald so evil? Ascians.
Why is skill expression being removed from job design? Ascians.
Why is my pizza cold? Ascians.

tranquil nexus
#

If I didn't already just renew my sub last week, I'd legit just let it lapse for a few weeks

bleak sail
idle wren
woven oasis
earnest zealot
slim marlin
earnest zealot
#

Eu no DDOS PeepoHappy

woven oasis
rancid iron
#

Sigh a thomas the tank engine mod take a drink stalalaWater

golden garnet
#

now i just have to play like shit forever to keep the good number

reef flame
#

just aim for 6969

crimson niche
#

the shitty you are , some ppl like that

fierce snow
#

!maintenence

#

eh forgot the command

#

worth a try

crimson niche
#

i still debating

#

if i wanna go dps or tank this tier

#

except the dps choice

#

is reaper POLmao

fierce snow
#

ew

#

whats tank option?

crimson niche
#

gnb

#

i hate myself

woven oasis
#

weekly reset is 2 hours before savage unlock

fierce snow
#

ty tera

fierce snow
#

if u play gnb jeffos rants will hit closer to home

crimson niche
#

holy fk rpr dps is real low

fierce snow
#

RPR kinda dull to play

crimson niche
#

the reason why im thinking is because NA will likely lock rpr out of pf

fierce snow
#

doesnt matter if its low or not tbh cause assuming ur pf'ing their dps will be low too

crimson niche
#

that does matter

fierce snow
#

NA will prob lockout SMN MCH

crimson niche
#

if their dps is low

#

and rpr dps is low

#

they wouldnt wanna risk having a rpr right

fierce snow
#

but

#

NA will also go hive mind and think that 2x melee > any caster

#

so

#

NA isnt smart

crimson niche
#

maybe i just tank this tier

fierce snow
#

Wf race tmrw

slim marlin
woven oasis
woven oasis
slim marlin
#

Edge of Shadow
DRS
classic

#

Glad to see Bozja still pop up from time to time

wind jackal
woven oasis
#

if anyone plays on NA

#

get ExitLag (preferrably, but you need to pay) or Cloudflare WARP (free)

#

WARP will affect your ping a little

fierce snow
#

i use mudfish

woven oasis
#

but both will protect you from DDOS

rancid iron
#

I use nord

idle wren
#

Mudfish pricing looked really confusing when I looked at it before

slim marlin
#

If you use mudfish exclusively for 14, $5 lasts you like 10 years.

fierce snow
#

^^

#

if u only turn it on to raid

#

u can get alot of mileage

#

for like nothing

tranquil nexus
#

Dynamis is still NA

viscid pike
#

Oh come now dejj

woven oasis
#

damn, m10 got hands

bleak sail
woven oasis
golden garnet
#

Had a fun few hours progging 9 and 10 blind with my new static last night. Even clutched up our 9 kill and got given my bis choker on whm as recognition KEK

#

Those 2 fights are fun.

#

Were not a blind static but for our first night we went in blind and it went so smoothly holy

#

Looking forward to playing in 11 later

earnest zealot
#

Pf prog going well

tranquil nexus
#

so they're announcing the VAs for the arcadion fighters

#

Black Cat: Merryl Ansah
Honey B Lovely: Anairis Quiñones
Brute Bomber: Timothy Watson

#

that's what we have so far

earnest zealot
#

Enrage GuraDinoSit

woven oasis
#

let me say CONGRATULATIONS JP (Heavyweight savage was harder on NA) on the Heavyweight Savage (Heavyweight was harder with the DDOS) WF CLEAR. I know you've been working really hard (these fights are way easier when you aren't DC'ing) at it, and I'm happy that you've (the strong connection and being Square's fave made you clear) achieved your goal of completion. I know your journey through (the DDOS took out NA raiders in the first hours three+ times) the content was filled with ups and downs.

#

this fight is so fast...

earnest zealot
#

It's casters worst nightmare

woven oasis
#

this entire tier is pictos worst nightmare

earnest zealot
#

My friend wanted really go Caster this tier forcing me on phys ranged

#

And im literally sitting here, huh best decision so far

#

It's relatively chill

slim marlin
fierce snow
#

I THOUGHT I WAS DOING SHIT

#

THE ENTIRE TIME

#

AND GREEDED SO HARD

#

IM HAPPY TO SEE BLUE NUMBERS

#

m9s as ref

fierce snow
earnest zealot
woven oasis
#

Whoever made Orbital Omen is an asshole...

#

This mech sucks

earnest zealot
#

lmaoo

slim marlin
#

Oof

#

Who didn’t pot

fierce snow
low night
#

small tips, if hp reaches 0% you win

earnest zealot
fierce snow
#

An exploit if u will

#

Wasnt intentional

#

U can tell cause the music says LONG LIVE THE KING

#

ARCADION

#

How is it gonna live long if it dies

low night
#

Do you even have time to hear the music between 2 DDOS though?

#

So maybe NA has no arcadion king

#

So he can die

fierce snow
#

Ur supposed to stop hearing it?

fierce snow
low night
#

Damn that's true

#

Then we exploit the bosses to 0%

#

No other choice

earnest zealot
#

damn.

slim marlin
#

What are those rolls ICANT

woven oasis
earnest zealot
#

M12P1 FUN

sterile moss
#

yall can do it

earnest zealot
#

Best fight this tier yet

sterile moss
#

im playing water/fire snake

woven oasis
woven oasis
#

finally, nice haul for a change

woven oasis
#

HE'S HERE

rancid iron
#

Literally watching you sleep

earnest zealot
woven oasis
woven oasis
#

we did it!

earnest zealot
#

nicee

pale elm
#

But did you get the whip

earnest zealot
woven oasis
earnest zealot
#

M12P2 Music slaps Wanderer_scream_cry_sleepyfawn

earnest zealot
#

wtf is phase 2

#

i dont have a good memory 😢

woven oasis
#

we saw enrage woooo

#

this fight is kinda meh after m11

earnest zealot
#

I like it more then m11

lunar citrus
earnest zealot
#

But phase 2...

#

I can't event comprehend of what's happening

#

1 mechanic is 33 slides in rp

woven oasis
#

i read the raidplan for the first half of phase 2 and this looks fucking mental

#

i bet all of these 37 pages happen in quick succession

earnest zealot
#

Basically you swapping dimensions doing mechanics and moment you swap you continue where you left off .. 1 or 2 things will teleport to a different dimension

woven oasis
blazing chasm
fierce snow
#

speedrun

woven oasis
viscid pike
fast cedar
#

SCH bros we're so back

fierce snow
#

no longer are u cursed to SGE wep

#

or MCH gun

#

no

#

an actual good wep

#

grats seny

orchid rapids
#

Got the new crafted pct wep

#

gonna use it for glam too whenever I get a wep upgrade sadcat_thumbsup

rancid iron
#

Man I fuckin hate people

#

Job stone and ilevel should be mandatory for every bit of content post 30

idle wren
#

Job stone I agree. But you can already get ilvl locked out of content.

slim marlin
#

Make it so the job stone doubles your Ilv

rancid iron
#

But gear is so easy to access already

#

How

idle wren
#

Hard to know if they're doing it intentionally or not too. I know I've gone into content a couple times where I forgot to equip the stone by accident.

But even in that case, I would've much preferred the game just preventing me from queuing instead of having to suffer through it.

rancid iron
#

See 30-40 fine you get a pass its annoying to be playing with someone at a fraction of their potential power (don't forget jobs give stats up too) but 70? They have to be intentional

#

That is just waaay too much content to have played through and not had your set already...well...set

idle wren
#

Unless the job starts around that level and they forgot

#

Though that isn't the case for the job pictured

rancid iron
#

See that makes even less sense cuz Dark Knight doesn't get a class

#

Neither does Sage

#

Like I guess they had a new install done that meant their sets got wiped but ehhh

woven oasis
#

almost there dead

rancid iron
#

ayyyy

slim marlin
sterile moss
wind jackal
#

missing the chuni lala portrait

rancid iron
#

I swear the dude's just singing about a rotissiere chicken

rancid iron
#

POSTURE CHECK

#

YA fuckin pretzel shape

slim marlin
woven oasis
woven oasis
#

FINALLY

woven oasis
orchid rapids
#

Congrats!

gritty oriole
#

guys

#

i finally cleared

#

m10s........

#

after 12 hours of nonstop raiding

#

ITS DED

pale elm
#

Nice!

woven oasis
slim marlin
sterile moss
sterile moss
fierce snow
#

➡️ ⬇️ ↘️ +🇭 🇰

rancid iron
#

Still a better designed tank then warrior is

#

Even if darkknight best incarnation was stormblood

sterile moss
rancid iron
#

Don't you mean those firecrackers you're now doing?

#

You want from nuking one patch to lotsa little firecrackers

sterile moss
#

Mr Torgue got my back

woven oasis
woven oasis
#

(unlike WAR)

rancid iron
#

And in regular content Dark Knight doesn't shut out healers

#

Although warrior does have Shake unlike Dark Missionary

#

and TBF Shake does do a lot

reef flame
#

Oh no, stal has never done astro, do you guys think she can figure out the dps rotation?

slim marlin
#

AST sadgeReflectingInAPondAboutLife

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I miss my gamba

rancid iron
#

Dude none of the healers have a DPS rotation

#

Sage could have one but it don't

rancid iron
#

TBH if we're gonna make healers into actual green DPS cuz tanks can do so much now lets actually give them more to do and press

sterile moss
heavy meteor
earnest zealot
#

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earnest zealot
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I linked the video right under it

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The adventure plate can be bought for mgp

woven oasis
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sterile moss
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sterile moss
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woven oasis
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M11 is officially harder than M12 kekw

earnest zealot
woven oasis
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I hope you like my Arcadion Video Compilation and I must admit,
this Song is, what Smile should have been xD

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FINAL FANTASY, FINAL FANTASY XIV, FFXIV, SQ...

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||"I'm utterly bewildered" theme||

slim marlin
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||"I'm.. not sure what's going on anymore folks..."||

rancid iron
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That is pretty funny

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||Just the dude whose been at this professionally seen all kinds of crazy shit in his career from people becoming part bomb to literal behemoth and the dude just sees this shit and goes "uhhh okay what?" and even he's at a total loss enjoying the show like everyone else||

slim marlin
heavy meteor
woven oasis
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congrats! !!

gritty oriole
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what i found in m11s floor arena

slim marlin
golden garnet
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Yeah that's what I keep hearing from pf

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I don't think its that bad though. Now I've been through it, it just feels like any typical 3rd boss

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I think pf is just used to not having any kind of functioning dps check

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The previous one was kinda adds last tier and they got hard stuck there too

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Its been over a year of the dps checks being little to nothing

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I want to see a return to the days where dps check meant you all had to push, not "if people die you won't have enough"

viscid pike
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My static is a bit stuck on M11. Just 1 a 2 players keep dying on goddamn swords right before a "soft" body check. and boom. There goes a pull. And it keeps happening. I am just bored out of my mind because we are stuck there stalalaDed

golden garnet
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Sometimes people gotta lock innn

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Ive left statics for that reason a bunch of times I'm ngl

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Its all fun joking around and melting sometimes, but when you're hard stuck cause that 1 person just spaces out every pull then it ruins the fun of the game

viscid pike
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I don't think it is really a lock in issue.
One just keeps eating an aoe because I feel like greed. And the healer cannot get on time for most of the places. Though the other healer is all fine, heals good and is on time for everything. And we even did fru together.
I will see how it goes today and hope for the best

golden garnet
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Were only as good as our attention span at the end of the day, but yeah your team is probably different to my experience

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Not me beating dsr 9 time. Taking like 2-weeks off to do dawntrail msq, then being unable to get another reclear in 2 months of 10+ hour weeks cause sch smn and brd just don't care anymore and couldn't lock in for a full pull

viscid pike
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ugh terrible anotlikeduck

woven oasis
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You know whats funny about this? A lot of people complains how "braindead" the jobs are and how "easy" they are to play. Yet, whenever SE puts in any type of dps check the player base just completely shits themselves. These MF would have never survived gordias LMAO

Quoting Eksu Plosion (@EksuPlosionXIV)

Just about the end of Week 2 - biggest wall for people in M11S is still the DPS check. About 23,000 characters stuck at <5% enrage

**💬 33 🔁 63 ❤️ 962 👁️ 61.7K **

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Rare good take from Xeems

fierce snow
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All i know is classes are easy enougb i play a new class every tier and end up doing ok dps without doing too mucb deep study

viscid pike
# woven oasis https://fxtwitter.com/XenosysVex/status/2013031367735407081

I am a bit mixed on this take. If jobs were more complex in the way to access power, the fights would likely be adjusted to it.
You can make a job simple as hell (cough cough smn) and still have a tight dps check. It just depends on how the fight is tuned. Besides, job complexity can also be other than accessing brute power only

reef flame
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there's also a lot of data missing in this chart. Are all these people with the same gear level? Same materia stuff? Are there undertuned classes? Are all these people getting in this phase with 0 deaths?
i don't disagree entirely with his take but it's like the correlation and causation thing

woven oasis
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if you reaching 5% enrage, then you are at least properly geared in the crafted gear

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pentamelds will not give you 5% worth of m11s hp bar

nocturne frost
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talking about job complexity m10s was really nice change of pace as a bard. keeping dots on both, your aoe is gain on two. shadow bite has a shitty range compared to rain of death and that basic aoe cone so gotta be aware. also I'd assume refreshing dots early is ok if regular refresh point is going to happen when bosses are stacked for cleaving. apex arrow aiming on both targets is fun extra layer too that you don't get to do on normal bosses. if only doubling the dots would still give you double procs.

earnest zealot
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m10s is very fun on bard

gritty oriole
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Which jobs are tuned?

rancid iron
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I find it funny how he points to Gordias for why job design should be neutered

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When TBH Gordias was its own special kind of scuffed

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Now obviously the guy went through it he's got more in-action knowledge of how bad it was but I'll bet he ran DPS accessories too

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and lets not forget there was nothing else to do at the time you did Savage or you get the relic long term, no exploration zones, no deep dungeons and definetely no ultimate (although TBF Gordias was a bootleg ultimate)

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For what was it? 4 months?

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If you ask me Xeno is in his own bubble most of his takes have resulted in basic content being even more brain dead and uninteresting while also putting more pressure on fight design to make up the difference

viscid pike
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on the last thing. Yeah I totally feel the balance of fight and job design is so out of wack and can see it in the changes for jobs even recently

slim marlin
tranquil nexus
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BIG SHOT

slim marlin
tranquil nexus
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well that was... annoying
in M9N, one of the black mages is venn diagrammed by the two healer stacks. We weren't trying to kill him, he just refused to move when he happened to be in the intersection
died, then refused to take the rez
both the other healer and I silently agreed to just leave them dead

rancid iron
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I had a dumbass dark knight the other day who never moved for the TB they got both me and the gunbreaker killed