#Final Fantasy XIV

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golden garnet
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no pf meant dead servers

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but yeah hw had good classes

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BUT

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only for poeple that try

fierce snow
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I talk in chat in hw i am mostly fine

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I talk in chat in dt someone goes out of their way to get offended

golden garnet
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it sucked for people that try because those that didnt did 30% of the dps they should and became deadweight

fierce snow
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Its a player fault mostly

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Not a dev thing

woven oasis
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"better community" had "skip soar or disband" and people using big mounts to block npcs

fierce snow
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Game got more popular

woven oasis
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why did they stay? who knows

slim marlin
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Berserk Macros…

woven oasis
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damn, discord is dying

fierce snow
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Just feels like these days chat in ff gets overly mad at ppl just for talkin

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Even my diadem days

golden garnet
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tbh it was always like that. just back then there was less people

woven oasis
slim marlin
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How dare you try to get me to interact with this massively multiplayer online single player game!

paper flower
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thats why people dont talk in WoW mythic plus dungeon runs

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they join, wipe once, leave the key

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thats it

slim marlin
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People get so mad at the silliest shit. Like undercutting on the MB. Bro is getting so mad at the most basic market tactic like he just learned the Queen can move diagonal in chess.

woven oasis
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tbf i didn't encounter much problematic people in the game like that, only seen them in forums. Community around Forked tower was mostly chill (tho one of the raid leads was a little too passionate and screamed a lot). In PF people don't interact much if nobody fucks up.

The worst experience i had lately was in FRU PF, because i wanted to practice a little outside of static, and learned that it's full of parse junkies in prog groups

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so i kinda would have to change my entire rotation for the fight because people refuse to hold, and just full blast p1 with pots

slim marlin
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At 66/100

fierce snow
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Cant remember peak annoying community moment for me. Theres alot of little spikes

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Cant remember the big spikes

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Oh nvm i have one but

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Its another

fierce snow
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Its kinda bad out of context and i know it will escape my original point

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Like after 2min

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The perception of the msg will shift hard

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If u want vague hint as to what i can only say it has a bit to do with the perception of the story and strat names

woven oasis
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who would get mad at strat names

fierce snow
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Me

woven oasis
fierce snow
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Not often

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Happens sometimes tho

paper flower
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good thing that strat names are over next patch too, people will only share the strat codes now in PF description

fierce snow
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Idk if the same amount in other servers too

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This could be a strictly na issue for me

woven oasis
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i personally don't care about strat names, but i don't like how we have several guide makers in the west and they all change something juuuust a little to be unique and shit

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like, pf already doing strat for 2 weeks, and suddenly Hector or someone else makes a new guide with slightly changed positions or movements for absolutely no reason at all

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and pf gets flooded with that

slim marlin
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Kindred Sleepo JP Uptime Braindead spreads

woven oasis
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is it the xddtree?

slim marlin
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No I just threw the usual suspects together

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WAIT FUCK I FORGOT HECTOR

woven oasis
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i'm pretty sure at least 4 of those words were in a strat for that one mechanic in p7s

fierce snow
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Fuck

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P7s

slim marlin
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But speaking of tree, shoutout to the 13 different PF Strats for Harvest

woven oasis
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is harvest the last mech?

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the best strat for that was die and heal lb3

slim marlin
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Whatever this fucking thing was

woven oasis
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This looks like a shitpost

slim marlin
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CAR was a good fight that settled on the most dogshit strats and made it awful to farm

paper flower
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CAR wouldnt be as fuckin stressful if you could move between the inner platforms and out without being locked and making that if 1 person misses a tower in the middle is a instant wipe

slim marlin
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Healers out solved that by not having half your rezzers stuck on the inner tiles.

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Though whatever Strat you used didn’t matter because you’re going to wipe to the Third Art of Darkness anyways. KEKW

fierce snow
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You know why

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CAUSE IT WASNT JP DEATH HARVEST

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THE BUTCHERED THE STRAT

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AND MADE IT WORSE

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AND THEN CALLED IT JP DEATH HARVEST

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I PULL OUT RESOURCES FROM THE JP DISCORDS AND YA KNOW WHAT THEY WERE 10X BETTER BUT NOOOO IM THE ONE DOING IT WRONG CAUSE IM NOT INTRODUCING DOWNTIME TO AN UPTIME STRAT

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I will never forgive hector for this

slim marlin
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Ah there it is

fierce snow
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Fuck

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P7s

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Hector does great but

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That fight was a critical miss

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Also this isnt my other rant of pf naming schemes thats something else

golden garnet
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hectors shitty rush job guides ruined the starts for an expansion

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every time there was some bullshit

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but it is what it is

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people just kind of refuse to go in without guides now, so if there isnt a guide out in the first few days then pf gets so shit

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so guide makers have a choice: either they wait a week or 2 to make a good video with a solid strat that takes the best of everything the different regions are doing, or they rush something out so they can be first and get views

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and what usually happens is a better guide comes out a couple weeks after start, but pf refuses to adjust cause "hector only"

reef flame
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this is also such cope , like that kidnapper syndrome. Wow was utter shit tier garbage and then they did something to be on shit tier only, which is slightly above, and people say it's good now, ffs. Also when she left , she put the blame on the community

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that's not to say i think ff14 is good though

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as you guys already pointed out

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i voted no man sky for the lolz

fierce snow
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Yeah

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Id say osrs deserved a spot

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They handle community stuff well

reef flame
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yeah, honestly, as much as i like nms, if it's there, so should be osrs

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no reason not to

paper flower
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did she even play endwalker? Stare

fierce snow
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Pretty sure she did

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Yes she did

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I remembered cause i watched it

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She just didnt finish dawntrail from i can tell

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Unlocked the jobs then stopped there

paper flower
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oh yeah she did

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but she didnt play DT then

pseudo mesa
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8.0 will be a Realm Reborn: Electric Boogaloo

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gaym saved

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praise Yoshi P

rancid iron
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Cuz if she only did the story but didn't actually consider the content or even job design then that'd explain the take

paper flower
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i just dont like people that go for example like her saying that had good expansions until the latest one, how did you know if you didnt play it? Stare

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well i know why, she is friends with zepla and xD

reef flame
rancid iron
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Really?

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She chose to play a story heavy game and get pissy when chat kept bringing it up that she hadn't?

reef flame
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yeah i remember cause i wanted to watch her, but then i realized how she was playing and i didn't like it, but unlike your classic twitch chatter, i just moved on

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just like nobbel

rancid iron
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TBH she should've seen that coming

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Like I figured it would get grating after a while but A that's what streamer rules are for and B she made her bed

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Ya know?

idle wren
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I mean, if you're just trying to enjoy some aspect outside of story but then people keep pestering you about how you're enjoying the game wrong I could see that being annoying and drive someone off

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Maybe don't choose a story heavy game or one known for it's story then, granted. But I still think people telling you how to enjoy something is a valid reason to quit.

next mica
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You can say there’s more content all you want, but lucky bancho shows a consistent drop in player numbers even after stuff like occult came out

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People were trying to bring up the issue with lack of repeatable content in ew but consistently shouted down

idle wren
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Doesn't matter how much content there actually is if only a fraction of the total playerbase is actually interested in it each time.

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(Because they try to appeal to many different types of players with different content and long release cycles between)

rancid iron
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Meanwhile job design has a target demographic: brain dead

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TBH that's the MAIN issue if people don't find the core combat loop stimulating throwing out shit tons of different content types literally won't matter

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Its something I've been screaming from the rooftops since EW and I too was shouted down

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Hell Shadowbringers even made me wary of the direction it was going

next mica
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Healer gameplay Despairge

rancid iron
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Tank residentsleeper

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Cept DK but that's mainly cuz TBN actually has skill expression and consequences for fucking it up

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Oh and tanks are either spam the same button 5 times in a row or OGCD vomit

reef flame
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well it was on the time of the mmo "migration"

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and everyone saw how endwalker/shb reactions on youtube were doing good

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so a lot of streamers wanted to grab a part of that, but then they didn't realize they have to actually care about the story

rancid iron
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TFW people keep tabs on the reactions responses but still ignore the meat and potatoes of XIV

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and then get madge that their viewerbase is questioning why they aren't having the meat and potatoes

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Like we've heckled stal once or twice about being a custcene skipper but she understands or at least I hope she does

reef flame
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she isn't building any expectation toward that

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doesn't farm views, stop before a cutscene, run ads, go to the bathroom, stalling, and then play it

rancid iron
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okay that's something else entirely wtf

reef flame
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that's like what most of the big reaction people do

rancid iron
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ew

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fucking ew

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Man I'm glad I don't follow "react" streamers sometimes

slim marlin
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woven oasis
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Look at this little chonker

tranquil nexus
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THEMB

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I LIOVE TRHE MEV ETHEBM

golden garnet
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anybody know if different tiers of pots make any difference in quantum? somebody in my static was asking but i just use the high grade pots cause im not poor

tranquil nexus
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that's a good question

woven oasis
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you can calculate it based on your stat and the pots

every pot have a certain % of stat increase, but they all have maximum the can give you.

Just look at your main stat inside the quantum and calculate based on what pots say

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generally i think latest pots should give more stat, compared to other within the same expansion

golden garnet
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you cant l;ook at your stats in quantum

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just shows the aetherweapon bullshit

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idk im just gonna tell him to not be lazy and get pots

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dudes alreayd a debuff

woven oasis
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Stat Potions
Tinctures can be useful for a temporary damage boost, which is especially useful to tanks. Just note that they share a cooldown with HP potions. Any grade Infusion or Tincture will give the maximum effect in PotD; use grade 3+ Tinctures in HoH, and grade 8+ Tinctures in EO and PT.

golden garnet
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ok sick thanks

idle wren
woven oasis
paper flower
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d-did youtube just AI dub something to english... FROM english?

woven oasis
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What

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the fuck

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YOUTUUUUUBE

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and why is the sound quality so bad?

viscid pike
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Why does companies keep shoving the AI in our face. Like jeeeeez.
I was already annoyed enough by automatic title translations that I got a extension for it

idle wren
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Because there is an AI race to see who can do what with it first. That's why.

viscid pike
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yeah, I get that. It is just completely shit and also costs a ton I imagine for so little gain

rancid iron
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Oh yeah it does

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Reminder companies that are "investing" in AI burn billions

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On this garbage

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The suits decree'd it so cuz they're too dumb to use it for actual good stuff

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That WORKS

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They already burned the cash so they're desperate to get a return

idle wren
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It's just so new that we're in the phase where nobody really knows how to use it yet and everyone wants to be the first to figure out the most effective ways to leverage it. Which means it is currently the hammer. And when you have a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

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Which is to say that it's going to get forced on anything and everything under the sun even if it really shouldn't.

rancid iron
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Fresh reminder Windows 11 "AI" has been installing straight up malware on people's hardware

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Oh and people literally got told to train an AI program then immediately got fired

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TBH I feel like its AI bros trying to scam people

reef flame
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it's also an AI bubble

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with the big companies investing in themselves

woven oasis
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remember crypto boom?

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where are the crypto bros now?

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probably turned into AI bros, chasing another big thing

rancid iron
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Also yeah prob Tictacs

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Another example: the suits; AI won't ask/demand for legally binding paid leave, or benefits it'll stay at work looooong after everyone else has gone home

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Its insanely fucked up

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Meanwhile the actual jobs it would be ideal for they won't use it (like replacing bad managers or suits)

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Nope just axe the workers and do their job worse

woven oasis
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8guqjIeFSd8
At first i was like "Wow, that a nice FF7 themed DRK mod"

After the Samurai Cloud mod released, many asked if a Dark Knight version would ever happen.

I heard you.

This is a complete Cloud inspired Dark Knight overhaul for FFXIV with full VFX and animation rebuild.

Not only did I rework the visuals and animations, I also had a bold idea.
What if you could fight alongside allies from FFVII, just li...

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and then Living shadow happened

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and other stuff after

rancid iron
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I see you too got the Xeno short shoved in your face lol

woven oasis
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no, i actually got recommended this vid

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and THEN got recommended Xeno short

rancid iron
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SO IT WAS YOU

paper flower
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bro

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youtube recommended me 6.4 trailer now

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the audio is SO DISTORTED

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that the AI didnt notice theres voices through the trailer

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so the trailer is literally the sound effects only with the voices deleted

woven oasis
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Surely this must be damaging to the brand and be worthy of a lawsuit

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imagine if someone interested in FF14 sees this shit

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they would be like "this is garbage"

paper flower
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im 100% sure youtube updated that shit and just turned the setting that lets them auto dub anything by default on

woven oasis
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it doesn't matter what they did, it damages any brand

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there's literally no people who would see anything with this quality and think that it's cool or even okay

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unless they're brain damaged or something

rancid iron
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See there's this called money

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and Lawyers just shlorrrp a loooot of it

woven oasis
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i'm pretty sure

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that Nintendo and SE combined have muuuch more money

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than Google

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and if we talking about ALL big corpos

woven oasis
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Google can't do shit against them if they pull a lawsuit

rancid iron
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A you assume companies would unite like that

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B its google if they feel like they're gonna lose they'll literally just stall

woven oasis
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If that actually hurts the income

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the investors will make them unite

rancid iron
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Or tell them to settle and quit it

woven oasis
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and eventually it WILL hurt them

woven oasis
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these guys would massacre a nation to get a penny of income

rancid iron
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Yes those types of people don't give a shit

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Especially when Lawyer money is involved

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They will meddle if they feel its needed

woven oasis
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if they didn't give a shit, FF16 and FF7R wouldn't be the ones that "didn't meet expectations"

wind jackal
woven oasis
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because they made a fuckton of money for the company

rancid iron
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So you think losing waaaay more to a lawsuit cuz lawyers are not cheap are gonna mean they're gonna suddenly hold back?

woven oasis
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if this AI shit actually gonna start causing money loss for all the big corpos

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then yes, there WILL be a lawsuit

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100%

rancid iron
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Hell no

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That ain't how this works

woven oasis
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collective or just from all of them, it doesn't matter

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it will be

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there's nothing more important to a brand than reputation

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and even the thick skull board members know that

rancid iron
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"Oh nooo a few people won't buy our product cuz AI dubbing welp better sue"

woven oasis
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and if your reputation is ruined by shitty AI voiceover that nobody asked for

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that isn't just gonna be swiped under the rug

rancid iron
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No it won't they'll just leave it right there because $150 to over1k PER HOUR will mean its not justified as a worthwhile expense

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And that's with ONE Lawyer these corpos have teams

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10k? Per hour? Really? You think they're gonna waste that kind of cash for a little bad PR?

woven oasis
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after watching something like vids above, if i didn't know anything about FF14, i would actually assume that it was uploaded by the creators and that only people who play this are psychos

wind jackal
woven oasis
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and that would be literally everyone who didn't play FF14 for 400 hours before seeing this

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because YT doesn't tell you that it's an AI voiceover

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So a normie who doesn't know much about it wouldn't even think that it's altered

rancid iron
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Does this not count?

woven oasis
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wow, where do i see it WHEN I LOOK AT IT IN DISCORD?

rancid iron
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Sigh

fierce snow
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I thought my yt algo was ruined

rancid iron
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Yep its AI auto-dub

fierce snow
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Wtf

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Gross

rancid iron
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It was forced a little bit ago across the entire site

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I don't even know if creators can mess with it

woven oasis
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Does FFLogs work for you guys?

slim marlin
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Yeah

woven oasis
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Dayum

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Nice logs bro

slim marlin
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Dead niche content do be my jam

gritty oriole
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i saw or heard that the reason that Dawntrail flopped is because Yoship wanted to quit but SE doesn;t let him xD

wind jackal
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what ? math isnt your favorite part of painting ?

next mica
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Doesn't look too bad

woven oasis
bleak sail
rancid iron
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Wall to wall gotta give it yer a-a-all

paper flower
woven oasis
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"The Council will decide your fate"

gritty oriole
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what gear is this

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pls dont be the raid tier

slim marlin
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Dungeon

gritty oriole
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Where is the source?

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did they make a live letter?

paper flower
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on the new dungeon part

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we dont know what the raid gear will look like

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yet

worldly swan
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Oh yeah... next patch is the universal glam thingy

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forgor

woven oasis
paper flower
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and now usable for everyone pog

grizzled nova
tranquil nexus
woven oasis
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This sparks joy

wind jackal
tranquil nexus
tranquil nexus
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IT'S BEEN EIGHTY FOUR YEARS

woven oasis
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Holy shit he's voiced by Sukuna VA???
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FC8GNK0fng

Special Live - Band Video by THE PRIMALS performing "Insatiable"
Perfomed at Final Fantasy XIV Digital Fan Festival 2021

ファイナルファンタジーXIV デジタルファンフェスティバル 2021 スペシャルライブ - バンドステージの
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fierce snow
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Gonna just sleep on aomine like that

woven oasis
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Please don't be locked behind cosmic exploration...

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Also this cat is ginormous compared to german shepherd xD

earnest zealot
woven oasis
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Caster and pranged look cool

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Tank top too

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Everything else tho...

nocturne frost
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hmm striking and scouting hats might be versatile

rancid iron
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Don't forget glam unlock when this goes live too

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I fuck with the phys ranged look

odd belfry
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K'lyhia is veli cute

woven oasis
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――This might be a slight digression, but I'd also like to ask about the Ultimate Raid. In our previous interview, you mentioned the next Ultimate would be implemented during the 7.x cycle. Since the PLL didn't list any Ultimate content for 7.4, I'm guessing it will be released in 7.5x. Roughly when do you anticipate its implementation?

Yoshida: The next Ultimate is scheduled for release within Patch 7.5x. However, we won't implement it simultaneously with Patch 7.5 itself. This is because we want players to thoroughly enjoy the main story first. That said, since some players dedicate months to challenging Ultimates, we don't intend to delay its release too long. We're thinking of releasing it a few weeks after Patch 7.5.

That said, this content is quite elaborate, so depending on implementation and balance adjustments, the release date might shift. Even so, we definitely want to release it within a reasonable timeframe of 7.5x.

woven oasis
sterile moss
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Take with a grain of salt

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I dont trust this interpretation

woven oasis
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it's most likely is anyway

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succubus lady is 9, beach boys are a duo in 10, underbomber is 11 and urianger is 12

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or urianger is 11 and metem (or president) is 12

woven oasis
pale elm
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they're live

woven oasis
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EVERYTHING BURNS

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Holy fuck, what a banger

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I wonder what floor is it from

viscid pike
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that sounded like a darn banger indeed

pale elm
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Oh shit

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No more long macros to pull up action bars

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kek deep dungeon disconnect progress loss prevention

tranquil nexus
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vibrates INTENSELY

orchid rapids
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I need

pale elm
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This crafted gear is going to stay expensive lol

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it's all cute and pink

woven oasis
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DAYUMMM

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i am buying that

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holy shit

pale elm
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Yo this pulse album mixing is HEAT

woven oasis
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this might be the best crafted gear in the game honestly

woven oasis
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it looks like genshin impact InaWheeze

grizzled nova
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did someone say Xenoblade?

woven oasis
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woven oasis
wind jackal
woven oasis
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man, this trailer is so fucking good

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i can't wait for the patch and the full song release

earnest zealot
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sittin Did 6 levels of the pvp series today

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end me

wind jackal
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i did that once
its not worth it since they gonna make the rewards available at vendors in a few months LifeTogether

woven oasis
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Anyone knows what's this coat?

rancid iron
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Might I suggest hitting examine

woven oasis
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i'm in deep dungeon

rancid iron
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Ah

woven oasis
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it's a Scientist's coat apparently

slim marlin
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The mats are stupid cheap so it wouldn't be hard to make

tranquil nexus
woven oasis
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What the fuck did i just walk into?

tranquil nexus
woven oasis
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dead game

fierce snow
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floor 58

golden garnet
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At least you got checkpoints!

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Ngl after floor 70 it's easy

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Only 1 scary patrol and the rest are so tame that as long as you don't rush it then you're totally fine

woven oasis
woven oasis
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golden garnet
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golden garnet
woven oasis
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Damn, bro cooked really good

rancid iron
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There is also one other thing I feel like has been sorely glossed over

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You notice how Gulool Ja Ja has two heads one reason and the other resolve

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Well then you've got Koana the reason and wuk is the resolve

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but there's also another pairing

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Zoraal Ja and Sphene cept in that case it was like fitting a square peg in a round hole Zoraal tried to force that and it didn't work

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Remove Wuk and that theme is also broken

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The theme being you need a balanced leader embodying both reason and resolve to both look after the morale of the people to get them to rally behind and believe but reason to actually come up with a plan to fix their problems and push the nation forward

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So TBH I don't buy it

woven oasis
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Also it seems Wuk is actually freaking useless as a leader. All we seen and heard since the end of 7.0 is that Koana is overworked and does all the shit, while Wuk fucks off somewhere and does whatever she wants

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What is her role as Resolve? To just exist and be childishly positive all the time?

rancid iron
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What part of "look after the morale of the people" did I mistype?

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She's a figurehead

woven oasis
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so her role is to just exist, got it

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amazing protagonist, really inspiring

rancid iron
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Ironic you say that when the WoL is right there

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Ya know the player character?

woven oasis
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WoL is supposed to be kinda a self-insert

rancid iron
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So his role is to exist...

woven oasis
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I'd even argue that WoL have more personality than Wuk

rancid iron
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You sure about that?

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Are we just gonna pretend the comments made by other characters saying some variation of "just stand there with a quiet nod" didn't happen?

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Like you can't get any more on the nose then that

woven oasis
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it wasn't "just stand there with a quiet nod", it was a joke about how WoL always agrees to do literally everything and does it with a nod

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again, WoL is your player character, he's supposed to be a blank slate

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Wuk Lamat is a written protagonist for her own expansion

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She isn't someone that is there for us to control

rancid iron
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Ehhh not really you can have a self-insert and them not be cardboard

woven oasis
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Name a single MMO

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where your character isn't either blank or OP GOD CHOSEN ONE

rancid iron
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Actually I was gonna point to Doom guy

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Or Master Chief

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or Isaac Clarke

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or Gordon Freeman

woven oasis
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None of these are MMOs

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actually, Freeman isn't even supposed to be self-insert, despite being silent

#

he has his own backstory

#

and story

#

dunno about other 3, never played their games

rancid iron
#

I mean he's literally supposed to be the "every man" the average joe working a 9 to 5

#

He's got no super power he's no ultimate badass

#

He's just a dude in an advanced suit

#

But MMO's only? LOTRO

#

and STO

#

You get your own set of introductory quests where the game sets things up by giving you a slice of life thing before the tutorial's done and the game actually starts

woven oasis
#

Sure, i guess

#

I'm fine with WoL being who they are

golden garnet
#

Shrug i thought wuk lamat is fine and i think its a bandwagon

rancid iron
#

Some cases it is hate training

#

But then the voice direction of wuk is actually not good

#

Outside of the steak scene like if the character's supposed to be demonstrating passion and conviction it doesn't feel right

#

Like if its a quiet scene the voice directions great

sterile moss
#

I think they were ironing out the changes and trying to scrape together more cohesion sometime around 7.3 as that would address your case and the videos case regi. I suspect 7.0 till then was to far set and they did not want to recast/work/script before then but they could still make changes post that to better meld her into the round hole they needed after shoving the square version through at first

rancid iron
#

It makes sense I suspect a lot of this was done literally during the pandemic

#

So they had to make do with what little they had

fierce snow
#

I had a thought...

#

You know how the community is on spoilers n what not

#

Is mtg considered a spoiler to them now

#

Like if i play a ff deck do i have to warn about spoilers before playing any ff card

rancid iron
#

The second they expanded MTG to include other IPs yes

slim marlin
#

My rule to spoilers is that if it can be seen in a public setting, it’s not a spoiler. The ancient robes? Can’t stop people from wearing them so it’s not a spoiler. Saying which and how characters died? No reasonable way to determine that from context clues so it is a spoiler.

fierce snow
#

Joking question aside i did accidentally spoil a bit of ff16 to a friend cause the cards

#

He built a joshua deck from ff16 so i assume he played ff16

#

Didnt spoil deep things but maybe first few hrs?

#

It just seemed like a deck to me u owuld build if u like Joshua

rancid iron
fierce snow
#

Especially cause then his card art in itself is a spoiler

slim marlin
#

Yes, but it’s also very different from seeing Emet in the trailer and knowing he’s going to be the major antagonist who will end up being the final boss of the main story.

slim marlin
woven oasis
#

WAIT JOSHUA DIES?

#

AINT NO WAY

woven oasis
#

I wanna end myself...

#

in minecraft

woven oasis
rancid iron
#

Dude that video just refuses to leave my recommended

woven oasis
#

good

#

Scribe vids are nice

sterile moss
woven oasis
worldly swan
#

same ol categories as always

#

"best ongoing" "best community support"

#

but I mean... TGA nominations are a joke in general

fierce snow
#

Its marketing

#

If u win u put it on ads

worldly swan
#

yeah, also that

#

but I meant it like.... the nominations are just dumb... they send the question "give us 5 games for this category" to 100+ ppl/orgs
then they tabulate the results and boom

#

nominations happened

clever galleon
sterile moss
#

Ah there's the original I saw someone share the other day

clever galleon
#

Gaslighting services is CRAZY lmfao

woven oasis
sterile moss
#

Chocobro what happened to you

#

To much greens?

woven oasis
#

I'm gonna lose it pepekms

viscid pike
#

you are nearly there. Last push is painful but you and your team can do it

woven oasis
#

we've been there for like 4 days

#

this 2% wipe is bullshit

#

the lb was pressed literal milliseconds late

#

and it didn't register

wind jackal
#

embed not working zaqThink

sterile moss
woven oasis
tranquil nexus
#

CHAT

#

How would we feel about 'execute' style skills coming back?

#

basically, skills you can only use if the target is below 20% HP

fierce snow
#

indifferent

slim marlin
#

eh

#

Having executes in the game means all the jobs of a role will have them. Which means balance changes around them and now it's like they don't actually exist. And if they are infrequent enough they really won't feel like they're in the game.

sterile moss
woven oasis
#

I'VE DONE IT

#

WOOOOO

sterile moss
fierce snow
slim marlin
#

gratz

sterile moss
#

Suffering un fru will henceforth be known as "suffering reclears in fru"

tranquil nexus
#

I think they were Ninja, Samurai, Bard?

#

and I think Warrior had one early on?

#

yeah, warrior had Mercy Stroke

#

Bard had "Misery's End"

#

ninja had assassinate before it got changed to be just a proc

#

I swear Samurai had one at one point

#

or did I imagine that?

nocturne frost
#

I don't think it did.

woven oasis
#

no

#

warrior had

#

in ARR and HW

#

i don't remember what it was called

#

but you could cross class it

#

unlike assasination

slim marlin
#

Mercy stroke

nocturne frost
#

lv70 sam has pretty much the same kit now that it had in sb. aside from kaiten.

slim marlin
#

Samurai has gotten by with quite few changes

nocturne frost
#

it's more of how the core mechanics work instead of individual skills

golden garnet
#

memebr when war had a dot

#

i miss fracture

nocturne frost
#

or when everyone had dots.

slim marlin
#

Goring blade combo…

nocturne frost
#

ninja had like two dots at some point? shadow fang in a combo and the regular gcd dot that I can't remember the name of.

golden garnet
#

and dragoon also had phlebotomise

#

back then the level 50 rotation felt so satisfying

nocturne frost
#

it also had the damage buff that you only got if you hit the positional. stand alone gcd.

golden garnet
#

heavy thrust

#

which looped perfectly if you nailed the full rotation, and fell off mid combo if you were shit

#

felt so satisfying keeping up disembowel for the brd, chaos thrust, phlebotomise and heavy thrust, and looping them perfectly

#

back when b4b made you take more damage, so you'd have to pop it around big mechanics

#

watching your drg die in prog cause they popped b4b right before some big raidwide or some shit

#

man arr/hw combat was so goated

#

only the bad players hated it

nocturne frost
#

or have weakness (less hp) and still pop b4b

golden garnet
#

stb was good too, but it was a compromise for the casual players

nocturne frost
#

not only dragoons as b4b was key cross class skill also.

golden garnet
#

and raging strikes

#

every dps shitting out big 3m bursts

#

2m if youre bard

tranquil nexus
#

it is complete

woven oasis
#

woooo~

rancid iron
#

Executes im indifferent on TBH it could be interesting

#

What I miss is soul survivor

#

You marked either an enemy or a teammate and if they died while the mark was active you got a big heal and mana back

#

Also blood price I miss that too

#

And obv abyssal drain being on the GCD

#

Oh and for the love of god I really wish we got old paladin rotation back we lost a unique flow because P8S was so badly designed

woven oasis
#

the skill which let you get MP every time you got hit was soooo satisfying, but i can see why they removed it when they made gcds cost no mp. Because DRK would be insanely overpowered in dungeons compared to other tanks.

But then again, job identity and all that, it would be great to have some jobs be better than others in their role at specific things.

#

Dark Arts is what i definitely don't want back

rancid iron
#

Ima be blunt rq I am soooo sick of "balance" being such a limiter it ruined blue mage's potential and is nutered job flavour

#

Meta will always exist regardless of what happens so I just think we should say "fuck it" and start getting cool if more unbalanced shit

#

Like resistance shredding the reason why ninja was such a problem was because it had BOTH all resist shred AND slashing that was nuts

#

So fuck it bring back resistance shred

#

Just don't double up this time around

nocturne frost
#

just let some jobs be op in dungeons. they're just dungeons. while we are at it let some jobs be stupid good in doing fates. they're just fates. and so on.

rancid iron
#

and let blue mage into ultimates

#

Just lock it so you either get a full blue comp or yo ass ain't gettin in

woven oasis
#

they say "but mah balance" and then we have whatever the fuck that was in 7.1 and 7.2 with Picto and Viper

rancid iron
#

And now vipers lame as hell cuz of it and picto was dunked on

woven oasis
#

like, in ucob you need healer lb

#

you literally can't pass without it

rancid iron
#

You know diamondback exists right?

#

Thats literally tank lb3 as a spell

woven oasis
#

i doubt diamondback will save you from doom in top

#

which have to be cleansed with LB

#

you can't cleanse it any other way

rancid iron
#

So we get a healer lb3 as a spell

#

Simple

woven oasis
#

tell it to them 😄

#

idk, you can write stuff on the forums, if you have any ideas or criticism

rancid iron
#

That would require me to engage on the forums

woven oasis
#

they are looking at it

#

whether they will actually do something or not i'm not sure

rancid iron
#

I dont doubt it...but its the forums

woven oasis
#

but they are looking at posts there

tranquil nexus
#

having a limit break for blu based on your mimicked job would be neat

#

Though for DPS you'd need to pick melee, ranged, or caster

woven oasis
#

could just make a unique dps blue lb

#

this is a limited content anyway

tranquil nexus
#

what's wrong with this picture

slim marlin
#

reset classic

tranquil nexus
#

I took fatal damage... and didn't die

rancid iron
#

Oh one last thing for now

#

I want DOT spreading back

#

So for context waaaaaay back when Summoner had a thing called bane that if used on a DOT inflicted target every DOT active that you applied would instantly get spread out in a radius to everything else in range

#

and the fact we're not exploring that idea more is a damn travesty

#

They've tried to recapture that with the stratagem follow-up but its just not the same as applying bio, bio II, bio III and miasma and then hitting every mob in range with that

#

Maybe iron jaws upgrade should do that

nocturne frost
#

they should also bring back other dot related stuff for bard if they go that way. like procs being dependent on dot ticks.

rancid iron
#

Exactly and while its relevant

#

Revert sidewinder

#

Which again for context for the endwalker babies it got a damage up for every applied dot still active when you did the OGCD

#

I'm starting to realise just how many neat things were gutted around shadowbringers

viscid pike
#

SHb still had the damage increase per dot. It was EW that removed it hmjj

rancid iron
#

It was? Fuck

viscid pike
#

yeah

rancid iron
#

WELL STILL shadowbringers removed a lot of cool shit

viscid pike
#

Yeah agree stalalaLMAO

rancid iron
#

Flaming arrow cough mmm sorry got a little somethin stuck in my throat

golden garnet
#

shb was a time where square was like "what if we took fun, unique and challenging jobs out of the game?"

fierce snow
#

I was about to sleep

#

Then i rolled in my bed

#

And my ff brain rot brain thoight of the animation of riddle of wind

#

So my brain kept sending signals to hit perfect balance

#

Only im in my bed in a cocoon of blankets

#

So my fingers just twitched a bit and all i am thinking is PB PB PB PB

rancid iron
#

Allow me to help

#

PB PB PB PB means get some PB & J

fierce snow
#

212 or 247

rancid iron
#

Dude its a sandwich not a bus route

fierce snow
#

147

slim marlin
#

⚖️ 🐒 🐒 🐒 🌙
⚖️ 🐒 🐍 🐱 🌞

🌞 🌙 ⚖️ 🐒 🐒 🐒 🌪️

♻️

fierce snow
#

Facts

blazing chasm
#

This guy has been reading too much into egyptian mythology

sterile moss
rancid iron
#

That's the monk rortation

#

🐍 : twin snakes
⚖️ : perfect balance
🌪️ : tornado kick etc

#

@sterile moss

woven oasis
#

Batsquatch, Gizamaluke and King Behemoth

fierce snow
#

Every raid boss this tier is morbing

#

4th floor will be morbius himself

#

Im ready

woven oasis
#

Undermorber

paper flower
#

i knew the champion or president was gonna be a behemoth

#

because i found some kind of sense into this

#

if you see the older live letter, before they put over "the arcadion" words the "into the mist"

#

you can see its the same as that

#

but that image has something else

#

and try to imagine the things on the left and the right being claws

#

and the middle part a behemoth head biting on "the arcadion"

orchid rapids
#

We really can't escape the behemoth can we..

pale elm
#

I need to prep for patch EmetSelchSigh

pale elm
#

lmfaooo

woven oasis
woven oasis
#

Ii don't like its face... Concerned

tranquil nexus
#

I love himb

fierce snow
#

I had a potentially bad shower thought

#

I always see ppl talk about disability support for ffxiv but

#

Most of that support involved making things dumbed down to hell

#

As in like one button combos

#

And i dont think i ever see much ppl with disabilities play this game apart from like 2 blind players

#

Starting to feel like some of it is just gcbtw trying to virtue signal

#

Or use them as an excuse to make the game easier for them

#

Idk

#

Think i literally only ever seen 2 blind players and 1 thag used his tounge to hit the controller play ffxiv

blazing chasm
#

You are likely right

fierce snow
#

And one blind player can do savage with alot of help from their group

#

And the tounge player did a full mch rotation in HW

blazing chasm
#

Wow also have a 1button thing going on. But it comes with 25% increased gcd

nocturne frost
#

Those who really wanna play the game usually find a way to do so. Like for example BrolyLegs managed to place in SF tournaments for years with heavy disabilities.

woven oasis
#

Bork bork

rancid iron
# fierce snow Or use them as an excuse to make the game easier for them

That makes more sense then it should cuz every time I've shat on that someone's come out to defend it with some variation of "oh it gets more people playing the game" and every time I gotta remind the person that diluting flavour for people who never gave a shit either way is a BAD thing

#

XIV's community while overall generally pretty nice its also forced positivity

#

I don't mean toxic I mean forced as in you can't say anything bad about XIV or critique the game in shout chat or people get INSANELY butthurt

#

So most of the time the player to player experience comes off as an 80s idyllic American suburb where everyone is in the middle of the street smiling and waving 24/7

#

and if you aren't they all collectively stare at you its a really freaky visual but I hope you get the vibe

earnest zealot
#

Finally some prog ded

tranquil nexus
woven oasis
#

i love her stalalaHeart

rancid iron
tranquil nexus
lunar citrus
#

im just here to say

#

she looks very cute

rancid iron
woven oasis
#

That's a cool elezen wowkip

rancid iron
#

Dhalmel calf found it!

wind jackal
earnest zealot
#

made prog

pale elm
golden garnet
#

i miss 8 man aurum vale Sadge

woven oasis
#

FUCKING CLICKBAIT

#

bald fucker

golden garnet
#

he literally logged on earlier just to leave my fc Sadge

#

smgdh

woven oasis
idle wren
#

Xeno quit playing ff or something?

woven oasis
#

no

#

but there are no patch notes yet

#

(final ones)

slim marlin
#

We won’t see the full patch notes until tonight

#

Please look forward to 20 more potency on flamethrower to help MCH AOE

earnest zealot
#

AAAA getting there

rancid iron
#

and job mechanics aren't gonna be fixed till 8.0

golden garnet
#

he used to be in my fc cause he was running with some people in here

pale elm
#

Hope the buff the relic gems in whatever it’s called

#

Still missing like 2 of em

#

Rank 25 in 1.5 days I don’t recommend

pale elm
#

Waiting EVERYTHING BURNNSSSS

rancid iron
#

Wake up and the literal first thing I see on discord

woven oasis
#

it's overall a good change, what they did with gnb

pale elm
#

STEAMED HAMS

woven oasis
#

whm getting lily at the start is kinda nice too, but nothing really big

pale elm
#

Christmas event is today too?

#

I forgot

woven oasis
pale elm
pale elm
#

gotta craft me pink lance

woven oasis
#

NA holding back everyone

pale elm
#

Pretty rare for an extension though

rancid iron
#

HOLY SHIT

#

IT HAPPENED

#

INTO THE HAPPENING BUNKER

#

ITS HAPPENING

#

THEY DIDN'T BUFF FLAMETHROWER FOR ONCE

#

TBH this blood lily change is at best a patch job (heheh)

#

They need to add more stuff that grants a blood lily

#

Like assize

#

Haps pointed that out a while ago and yeah he's right

#

Also viper and ninja buffs jfc

#

Haven't had a potency salad in a while

pale elm
#

Dunno if I want to MSQ or Raid first

woven oasis
#

i'm going straight to Arcadion

#

i don't wanna get spoiled on anything

rancid iron
#

Is it cuz no one cares about the MSQ so no one's gonna talk about it? Smile

woven oasis
#

i care

#

i just care about arcadion more rn

pale elm
#

I think the story should be pretty good from this point on

#

I did enjoy the last set of MSQ though

woven oasis
#

Hey look they fixed NA login issues!....oh

rancid iron
#

Yeah I saw the red mage changes too

#

Dunno how I feel about it

woven oasis
#

oh look it's dead again

rancid iron
#

Oh thank god its just Aether and Primal phew

woven oasis
rancid iron
#

"imrprove healer role balance"

#

See that's how you know they don't look at FFlogs

#

Healers were all pretty much neck and neck

wind jackal
#

fflogs might not represent how healers feel for "normies"

rancid iron
#

I guess? Then how would they know what the job balance is like

wind jackal
#

they probably have their own system that logs certain metrics in regular play
thats my guess

rancid iron
#

That seems excessively complicated for a normie to care to do

wind jackal
#

there might have bven a misunderstanding
my thoughts:
normies dont run logs
they care how playing heal feels

rancid iron
#

Oh

#

In my defense I did just wake up like a half hour ago

golden garnet
#

whm getting more mit thooo

pale elm
#

LOGIN

woven oasis
#

god damn it i logged in on the wrong character

woven oasis
#

damn, that first fight

#

honestly it might be my favorite out of all normal first fights

golden garnet
#

FIRST THING I SEE when i log into the game is a friend in a linkshell posting this KEK

rancid iron
#

oh gdi

#

urgh the link broke meme ruined

half flare
#

Wait, so rdm now gets to slash the air every 110 seconds?

rancid iron
#

Pretty much

#

Their "melee" combo is now occassionally a casting combo

#

Also

#

I expect to see a GRRRREAT deal of fanart for that first fight in the current raid tier

earnest zealot
#

thats so funny

#

they ermegency closed Occult

#

cause of a chest bug

#

being able to open chests multiple time while its opening

pale elm
#

ah yes

#

90k

rancid iron
#

MAN occult coding must be utterly fucked to keep patching it

woven oasis
#

done with normal raids

#

it's nice, but not my favorite tier for sure

pale elm
#

I might go back to BLM for this tier

tranquil nexus
#

SCREAMS EXTERNALLY

woven oasis
#

Damn, what happened to Graha voice?

#

the mixing sounds really bad

earnest zealot
#

The raid story was very funny

#

Very WWE

golden garnet
#

holy shit

#

we're gaming

#

also finally i can have my cat burglar outfit on my healers!!

#

but yeha that normal tier was good shit

#

loved all of the fights. looking forward to savage

crimson niche
tacit sphinx
#

WHAT A GOOD ADDITION TO THE GAME

slim marlin
earnest zealot
woven oasis
#

ohhh

#

yeah, he sounds ill :C

rancid iron
#

Gotta keep that train schmovin

pale elm
#

Amon hat on my weaver

#

Can’t stop me

rancid iron
#

I mean

#

It makes sense

#

A weaver's gotta advertise their craft

#

Never trust a tailor who doesn't wear their own designs

pale elm
#

Don’t be deceived by my wolfram top

rancid iron
#

Oh so you have an identity crisis Kappa

woven oasis
#

Lumull is so funny

earnest zealot
#

they have great energy both of them

woven oasis
#

i fucking can't InaWheeze

woven oasis
earnest zealot
#

im so glad krile got some much screentime this patch

tacit sphinx
tacit sphinx
woven oasis
#

noooo

rancid iron
golden garnet
#

ttp?

woven oasis
#

Damn, the story is really good in this patch

lunar citrus
half flare
woven oasis
#

this EX is such a big "fuck you" to everyone who plays without in-game sounds

rancid iron
#

You will respect the sound design or thou shalt perish

woven oasis
#

damn that was fun

#

very good EX

earnest zealot
#

good ex

#

can carry your friends by just calling out

#

did 5 for my friends

rancid iron
#

Yeah raha sounds odd

#

Like I was still doing the .3 quests post the dungeon and I thought that was the thing but there he just occasionally sounded like he had a stuffy nose but this one he sounds like he had the flu or something

#

F for the resident labrador

#

I wonder if they're gonna redub the lines later when he's recovered

pale elm
#

Sat down at my pc and the power went out in the whole neighborhood

#

The world doesn’t want me to login

fierce snow
crimson niche
lime patrol
#

I was in the middle of the D O O M T R A I N fight and I get ddosed...

#

ADFADFAJDFFDMXXZMCBFEJKLS

crimson niche
#

the thing

#

is

#

i didnt get ddos , i logout myself to turn on vpn because i forgot

#

i didnt know theres ddos happening and i logout at a bad timing LOL

lime patrol
#

I have NordVPN on and I still get ddosed though on xiv

crimson niche
#

i think its only the us side?

#

when everyone dc-ed

#

i didnt get affected at all

lime patrol
#

Weeeeiirrd

lime patrol
#

Don't know who would be only ddosing in NA

crimson niche
#

i know who

#

expedition 33 player

#

mh wilds player

#

what else have dlc update recently

#

ahh yes

#

poe2 player

lime patrol
#

lol

sterile moss
#

NO VISIT

#

ONLY LEAVE

woven oasis
tranquil nexus
#

goated meme

woven oasis
#

your face when you get Bismarck EX in wondrous tails

sterile moss
#

One of my friends tried to use the board sharing feature to play chess with their friend

slim marlin
#

Yeah, sadly doesn’t work

#

Only the creator can edit it

#

Guess you can like, tell them where to move pieces but still kinda whatever

pale elm
#

They posted the guitar tab for everything burns wikked

#

Time to grind it out

slim marlin
#

Meanwhile I’ve been jamming out to M11

#

We will rise, they will break, We will seize all that we can take.
Close your eyes, hold your tongue, Cease your fight till our deeds are done.
Join the crowd, lift the song, all the rights you try to wrong!
Tell me yes, just believe, don't defy my authority!
Burn to ashes in your struggle, by royal decree!

fierce snow
#

if it sells

#

i make some of my melding money back

woven oasis
woven oasis
tranquil nexus
tranquil nexus
#

kek

tranquil nexus
golden garnet
#

finally smn can use books

#

and sch can start using books too

woven oasis
#

yes, because both of their books are considered "Arcanists' arm"

#

oh wait no

#

the SMN books are

#

so SCH can glam a SMN book

#

but SMN can't glam a SCH book

#

lmao

tranquil nexus
#

it works both ways

#

I tested

pale elm
#

Need moarrrr

slim marlin
pale elm
#

monkaW art the clown was there

pale elm
#

We got the pink weaponnn

tacit sphinx
golden garnet
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been seeing some creative mix and match sets in game

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a lot of people have been cooking since hte restricitons were taken up

sterile moss
rancid iron
sterile moss
rancid iron
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I can see it

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But it feels like their version I'm viewing it through double glazed distorted glass

sterile moss
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Have funi video that is family friendly

rancid iron
pale elm
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Jesus

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I wish I could have that much Gil kek

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I had to play too much catch up on the first day

golden garnet
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did a from start prog into farm of the new primal. was a very ffun fight!

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some friends put together a group randomly so we had a full 8 first timers wihtout having to pf

woven oasis
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this EX is definitely the easiest in this expac, but it was fun as heck to prog

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now that the Hector guide is out tho, i don't think i'm gonna step there again lol

golden garnet
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the hector guide is fine. in eu the only difference is a slight adjustment to the layout fo the spreads

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but yeah im not looking for a hard fight in ex primals, just a fun one

rancid iron
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Ahhh but we can have both

golden garnet
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idk how good of an idea that is tho, seeing as ex fights are supposed to be the the stepping stone into real content, right?