Guild Wars

[rancid musk]

LOL

[crystal cave]

xD

[willow mist]

LOL

[crystal cave]

it used to be worse

the tickets were giga backloaded im pretty sure they spread it out more evenly now

[rancid musk]

its like 1400/1500 pips? to finish

and i dont think so

[crystal cave]

getting any wvw legendary as a non wvw enjoyer was like getting a second full time job

[rancid musk]

diamond boxes r like 20 per box

[crystal cave]

hm

[rancid musk]

mith is like 13

[crystal cave]

i need to double check but there was a rewards rework

[rancid musk]

then its like 3/5/6/ or w/e

[crystal cave]

did it just not happen?

[rancid musk]

no clue

im letting my bags and boxes stack up

[crystal cave]

oh i remember you get more pips for like getting boxes last week and having a rank and stuff

they made pip gen faster

[rancid musk]

ah

[crystal cave]

the spread thing was just something hte community wanted forever

[rancid musk]

no spread, diamond jail

23/23 weeks for a full set of armor

6 or 7 for the ring

of tickets

[crystal cave]

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Game_updates/2021-11-09

[rancid musk]

thankfully they r gving me gloves

[crystal cave]

getting to diamond without farming outnumbered was sillier before

[rancid musk]

the +1 pip per rank is nice

[crystal cave]

just make raid armor you can make all 3 sets in same time

-> did not do math

[rancid musk]

i hear what ur saying, and i raise u

i got my chest already (the only pce with a gfx) + free gloves monday

im pretty much done

[crystal cave]

o.0

[crystal cave]

well youre a bit more than half way to halfway there 😄

[rancid musk]

i could get another pce this week i believe actually

1300 tickets left over

id have 2 look

[crystal cave]

legy shit gets transmuted instantly anyways

its there for infinite fashion charges and stat swapping

[rancid musk]

i like the back squiggles

[crystal cave]

and rune/sigil swapping and being used on all the chars

[rancid musk]

so i cant mog it away 🙁

[crystal cave]

aw

[rancid musk]

its ok

chest looks alright in full black

like a normal shirt

[crystal cave]

yea it does look like a normal shirt

is it perma?

[rancid musk]

im so glad i found these elegy pants

the squiggles?

[crystal cave]

ye

[rancid musk]

only when wep drawn

[crystal cave]

oh ok

[rancid musk]

but yeah, 100%

[crystal cave]

same as raid squiggles

[bright stump]

all ugly

[rancid musk]

fucked up

[crystal cave]

LMAO

[bright stump]

:>

[rancid musk]

ethical pip game

[bright stump]

I've never chased pips tbh

[rancid musk]

yeah, they just happen while playing

[crystal cave]

same

->doesnt do wvw

[bright stump]

I don't think I've completed diamond since... rush

[rancid musk]

u also have what

30k tickets or something

[bright stump]

25k tickets

[crystal cave]

lmao

thats silly

hides pristine fractal relics

[bright stump]

I have about 23k of those too

[crystal cave]

oh

ive been liquidating them

[willow mist]

im over here with neither im just broke

[rancid musk]

https://tenor.com/view/greasestain-woody-dap-up-dapping-toy-story-gif-16829324021208675735

[crystal cave]

make them into rings->attune and salvage

free money printing machine

i think i hav 8k left now

[willow mist]

dont u have a ton of gold, im still broker 💯

[bright stump]

this is sillier

[crystal cave]

that is silly

actual dungeon enjoyer spotted

[bright stump]

i haven't done dungeons since vanilla

LOL

[rancid musk]

a lot if questionable, i think i got like 500 total saved up now

[bright stump]

it's just in vanilla i used to cycle multi dungeon paths like crazy

[crystal cave]

this is my silliest one

[willow mist]

Damn.

[willow mist]

WHART

[bright stump]

here's the fun part.

I spent 2m+ of them

[willow mist]

WHARTER

[crystal cave]

🫡

[rancid musk]

this is my silly stack, its not much but its mine

😭

[bright stump]

before tomes of power existed, my friends would run characters to CoE and we would complete the dungeon path, and switch to a low level character, enter the dungeon, get the reward to level up.

[crystal cave]

thats jsut a normal amount for someone who doesnt craft legendaries like monthly

[bright stump]

levelled up like 30 alts that way

[crystal cave]

dang

[bright stump]

but more so...

[rancid musk]

i just crafted .... 4? within 2 months

[crystal cave]

😮

[bright stump]

it was because CoE you used to be able to cycle multiple paths in one instance

[rancid musk]

twilight/sunrise/ wvw armor/ orrax

[bright stump]

so we just.. exploited the hell out of it lol

[crystal cave]

you can also do AC right

i guess coe is higher level content

[bright stump]

in the sense that, we still killed everything it was just skipping the first part of the dungeon.

well, it was also charged loadstones

which back then was 3g a pop

[crystal cave]

tru

[willow mist]

what yall know about this

[crystal cave]

holy

you get them from guild missions

do guild missions

[willow mist]

ive had this one for like 9 years

[crystal cave]

if you want more

i think you can buy like a core stat ascended ring with that

[bright stump]

and yeah you can multi path AC, but CoE in vanilla you could respawn the end boss triggers.

so you never needed to leave the instance.

just run back and forth between paths

[crystal cave]

wait thats silly

i wish i played pre expac

[rancid musk]

u can buy wvw supplies 2

[bright stump]

but you also needed to avoid certain triggers

[rancid musk]

and sell them

for like 2g ech

[bright stump]

so it was very specific lol

[rancid musk]

sometimes

just depends if guild trader has it instock

[bright stump]

but yes, my friends and I would run CoE for like 4 hours straight in vanilla

[crystal cave]

i love dungeon jank

[bright stump]

it was something like 2 hours to level a character from roughly 10->80?

[crystal cave]

i used to be an aspiring dungeon solo enjoyer

then the server stability™ patch happened

and like the entire dungeon community quit?

afaik

[bright stump]

no they nerfed the rewards

[crystal cave]

people still did dungeons long after that

[bright stump]

used to be if you finished a path, you got the 1g reward

then they made it 1g per day

[crystal cave]

just cuz like soloing arah was fun content

[bright stump]

then they made it clear x paths for it.

[crystal cave]

lupi is a cool boss

[bright stump]

the thing is, infinite cycling never was touched for a long time

because we never completed the path

if you dungeon opener never left the dungeon, you never completed it, so if you triggered the end boss again, you could trigger the reward again

[crystal cave]

i think even now being in a good dungeon group that does dungeon frequenter in like 20 minutes? is decent gph

[bright stump]

would not count towards completion achievements though

but counted the boss kills.

[crystal cave]

the people who did that jsut dont play anymore

[bright stump]

arah was fun but couldn't cycle

but it was fun to change it up and break skips

or like, the one shot lupi fights

[crystal cave]

wonder how powercrept lupi is nowadays

[bright stump]

considering you can one shot it

in vanilla

probably not very

[crystal cave]

wym one shot

[bright stump]

you can reflect him

[crystal cave]

ye

theyre kinda necessary

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiQL-aL7x9I

i guess power would be instagib? idk

[bright stump]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nw_QIE6Nv5c

[crystal cave]

well the kill includes getting to that point 😓

its an interesting fight on non mesmer xD

[bright stump]

well the fun part with core mesmer is that it has higher burst and dmg modifiers than any of the specializations

[crystal cave]

makes sense

[bright stump]

that video was also 11 years old

[crystal cave]

yea

[bright stump]

so the stats were lower in the game, as values got retweaked and everything. But yeh these days you could do it with guard, ranger

technically thief

[crystal cave]

[rancid musk]

big fan of shove a boss into the wall tech

[crystal cave]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSxQsFPKiuI theres actually a non wall reflect any%

also rip roul :c

[cloud narwhal]

Are those infinite use blueprints worth going for or is it like going for legendaries?

[bright stump]

absolutely not

they save you no time or money realistically

[crystal cave]

-> doesnt wvw
from what ive been told its a scam

[glacial locust]

let's just hope there's a wvw event where we can get some infinite use blueprints

[bright stump]

blueprints are so cheap

you get space limited before you realistically need it

[crystal cave]

its like the golden sink decoration

[bright stump]

and the commanders that wvw a lot will just slot 250 into their shared inventory or something

[crystal cave]

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Golden_Sink

fantastic content

i feel like efficiency trying to tell me something

stares intently at death rank

literally

• spams fractals
• dies a lot 😭

[bright stump]

that's wild

i have half the deaths

and i basically only wvw now

[rancid musk]

🫡

we be dying

we also be killin

[crystal cave]

grinding pve speedkills is a fantastic way to rack up deaths :>

[rancid musk]

i want to get some red SAB stuff

im sure my deaths sky rocket

[crystal cave]

"oh someone fucked up rotation 2 seconds into the fight gg"

-> the someone who fucked up the rotation 2 seconds into the fight

not even speedkills just above average fast strats

how do you have only 1.6k thats insane actually 😮

[rancid musk]

wvw only

zerg only (i roam very little)

[crystal cave]

makes sense

[rancid musk]

its funny

we actually talked about this yday in squad

someone had like 83k deaths or w/e

but only played that 1 char forever

[crystal cave]

you can tell which days we did our boss time grind

[rancid musk]

rofl

[crystal cave]

stuff like loading into a frac cm that already started also kills you so i just avg 6-10 deaths per day cuz of dailies

[tardy ore]

failing the chak gerent meta event because your lane has 10 afk people scaling up the events

[shadow loom]

whats with me and deepstone zzzz

[unique herald]

keeper of the sun

in a cave

[crystal cave]

after you do 10 randoms a week theres no reason to random again unless you wanna meet the fresh puggos

oh if youre a wvw enjoyer you might like the mursaat panel addon for nexus

i think it lets you see wvw stats and stuff at a glance over your exp bar

reffect is also a part of nexus which lets you customise your ui

[fickle barn]

[crystal cave]

value

[rancid musk]

damn ur rich

[teal vault]

Getting all of my wvw tickets this past took too forever. I played a ton last weekend and after work all this week and only just finished getting all diamond boxes last night. I did almost nothing but wvw and maybe one or two fractal quickplay per day for daily/weekly. I know getting higher ranks will help but currently it is quite the time commitment to max out skirmish tickets IMO

[rancid musk]

thats rlly weird, i only get 1 extra pip per tick than u, but i can cap in umm

1.5x6 hours per week

not sure what the difference is

[crystal cave]

clearly the war score pip

[rancid musk]

yeah surely

oh hey, my team isnt last right now

crazy

first time in .... 2 months

[tardy ore]

[rancid musk]

gz

[teal vault]

If you are bottom score all the time, its 18-20 hours to max. https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Special:RunQuery/WvW_skirmish_pip_query

That link is way longer than i thought

[crystal cave]

nice query

also gz on 10k

you can get bonus pips from reward track chests a little faster if you max out your boosters :^

[rancid musk]

thats an insane link

[teal vault]

I killed the query lol

[crystal cave]

its still 18 hours

[rancid musk]

i guess this does add up

[crystal cave]

yea

[rancid musk]

if i add in boosties and stuff

[crystal cave]

cuz you get an extra pip every 5 minutes

[rancid musk]

when we run, we r also the highest war score

so

[crystal cave]

that helps

[rancid musk]

def tracks

lol

[crystal cave]

who'da thunk doubling the pips per tick halves the time it takes mhm mhm

[rancid musk]

just get rank 6500+

and life is comfy

[willow mist]

how much bonus do you get for that raank

[teal vault]

Workin on it, wvw is fun so far. Not sure if i will commit to the full grind each week though.

[willow mist]

bc i think i just hit like level 40

so im almost there

🙂

[rancid musk]

each rank is +1 pip

so 8 at max?

[willow mist]

u mean like raank bracket?

[rancid musk]

yeah

[willow mist]

i know i have to get 150 to get out of bracket 1

[rancid musk]

6500 is diamond start

[willow mist]

dayum

[teal vault]

I do like that most of the rewards are tied to just existing and participating at least. Not like you are locked out of everything if you are getting stomped

[willow mist]

also do the xp booster saand heroic boosters stack?

[crystal cave]

well you sorta are if you get spawncamped

[rancid musk]

i think xp boosties r weird

theres a whole chart

but i think those 2 do?

[willow mist]

it says i get 50% more reward track progress

and heroic booster says it does the other thing among all the others

idk if its worth me saving heroic for like some nerdy pve shit tho

[crystal cave]

i just click all the boosters in my bank

wvw reward track is a good use of heroic if you dont like wvw

[willow mist]

bet

gimme my gobs

[glacial locust]

i think candy corn gobbler has some wvw boosts in it

[rancid musk]

just pray for another wvw rush

[teal vault]

Does getting killed by a player or doing damage to a player add participation? If so you can RP as a bagfarm at spawn for 18 hours

[crystal cave]

no

[willow mist]

i saw someone link like 120 GoBs in chat yesterday and i think i felt jealousy and pain at the same time for the first time

[rancid musk]

u can kill a guard every.... min because i think thats how long it extends

[willow mist]

jealous of the gobs just paain for what they must have felt

[crystal cave]

i think guards are 2 min

[rancid musk]

i dont know why people camp gob track

[crystal cave]

i know dolyaks are 2 min

gob is the only thing worth getting in wvw 👍

[rancid musk]

JW track is unlimited and gives like actual money

so if ur gonna be there anyway

[crystal cave]

ok idk what jw track does

new tech?

[rancid musk]

no

[willow mist]

maybe theyre lazy and want some clovers

[glacial locust]

a lot of people are only in wvw for gob

[rancid musk]

it its just more gold than the gob track

and if u have 150 gobs

why?

[willow mist]

bigger number = better person

duh

[rancid musk]

damn

[teal vault]

I have been picking up all the one time tracks that give 7 clovers so far, idk if it’s the best but i need clovers

[rancid musk]

thats a valid strat

for clovers

the ummmmmmmmm

drizzlewood? ones give 10 or something

[crystal cave]

i think doing the one time tracks for clovers is big value

[willow mist]

yeah i think im gonna get involved

im just a gob, some money, and clovers away from my first leggy

[crystal cave]

dwc is 14

[rancid musk]

yeah that crazy value

[teal vault]

I know what button i’m clicking tonight in that case lol

[crystal cave]

what does jw track give thats worth so much money?

[willow mist]

so drizzle then bjora lol

[crystal cave]

yea

[willow mist]

probably orrax mats

[crystal cave]

ooh

[rancid musk]

selectable bloodmoon box i believe but leme check the main part

[willow mist]

(i dont actually know im just saying shit)

[rancid musk]

blood moon wep is insta sell 3 gold (stat selectable exotic wep)

• orrax mats

[willow mist]

yeah i might be a fweakin genius

[rancid musk]

lol

[crystal cave]

xD

[teal vault]

I can vouch for your geniososity

[crystal cave]

thats pretty good yea

[rancid musk]

its 100% unlimited 2

vs like eod, which u can only do twice on the repeatable track

[willow mist]

and you get the 2 clovers during too

[rancid musk]

u can also cheese some cringe relics this way (or the soto 1)

[willow mist]

i think i need to do that for relic of zakiros

ive never seen someone do the meta for that

[glacial locust]

there's usually a run around reset

you pretty much have to join a comm on the meta train to do it because it requires a lot of coordination

[willow mist]

people do like amnytas meta, then east or west nayos, and then leave to do skywatch

they never do the full spider lair meta

[glacial locust]

i mean that's how i got that meta done a couple times

[rancid musk]

be the change u want 2 c

put on the soto reward track

[willow mist]

no

[rancid musk]

get ur clovers and relic

[willow mist]

oh yeah

yeah im just gonna do that lol

[teal vault]

I have done the full spider lair meta twice and seen it fail once. I wasn’t particularly looking to get it done, just good timing i guess.

[glacial locust]

the problems in the failed runs i've joined are either not having a group on rifts or people dying and not running back

i guess that's not a lot of coordination, more just dedication to do the bare minimum contribution

[teal vault]

Lol yeah in the commander runs it gets spammed that if you are dead to respawn and come back

[cloud narwhal]

What's a good magic find % to stop at?

[glacial locust]

well it maxes at 300 but it also doesn't do much afaik since most loot is from bags and unids that aren't affected by it

[cloud narwhal]

So it only affects stuff like world boss chests?

[bright stump]

it affects drops

loot bags in HoT

opening up your Unid gear

all that to say, very minimal.

[glacial locust]

i mean it affects mob drops but, kind of like gold find %, the lion's share of your loot isn't coming from mob drops

i guess that might have changed since eod but that's how it was for a long time after the nerf/rework of MF% in core

and it's been a long time since MF affected unids

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Unidentified_Gear 2019 apparently

[teal vault]

I have been wondering when to stop eating magic find and start hoarding it for obsidian armor. I am thinking maybe 150% as just some arbitrary threshold I came up with.

[glacial locust]

i just stopped eating it as soon as i started making the set

[bright stump]

you don't need to horde that much luck

but if you do, you can exchange them for gold

[glacial locust]

it's been the slowest part of the obsidian grind for me, but then i just buy what i'm missing so i guess nbd

[bright stump]

luck is basically free if you buy unid gear, then sell the salvage mats

does take a while to build up but yeh

[glacial locust]

main thing is it's a loss unless i get the runecrafters salvage kit, but i need like 4x as many salvages for that to turn a profit as i need luck for all 3 sets of obsidian gear

...also it's kind of boring lol

[willow mist]

how much luck total is the stack u need for the armor

fast farming says its 3 silver per 1k luck by buying blue unids

[glacial locust]

50k? iirc

[willow mist]

oh so thats not bad

[rancid musk]

park alts at essence chests, save ur luck from scraping the items for leggy shit if u care
then use luck on main for account

[teal vault]

I hear new years has things to spend luck on. Does that impact prices of unids, ectos, etc like four winds does? If so i might need to start hoarding stuff lol

[willow mist]

the 250 exotic for each armor piece looks like its less than 2 gold

[rancid musk]

1 of my essence alts

one day ill log in

and have a ton

gonna be sick

[willow mist]

i got 1 character that opens the 2 large essence chests in north bjora, and a character in each of the soto zones at a chest

[rancid musk]

i thought the soto chests were random

is there perma spots?

[willow mist]

theres 1 in skywatch that never moves, 1 in amnytas that cycles between 2 spots right next to eachother

and 1 in nayos that tps between a few platforms that take 1 second to get to

[rancid musk]

i see

[willow mist]

you get like 15 map materials per open but its a nice passive

sometimes the game treats me with a single yellow item 🙂

[rancid musk]

i thought about maybe filling in my remaing leggy armor slots with soto leggy

but

then i rememberd i gatta do convergences/rifts

[glacial locust]

just play p alac mech

[rancid musk]

no no

[glacial locust]

then even when you play it's like you're not playing

[rancid musk]

just dont play

embrace wvw jail

[willow mist]

what do yall do for getting research notes 💀

[rancid musk]

theres a calc

right

https://fast.farming-community.eu/conversions/research-note

might be the wrong 1

i know 1 exists

im sure u can find it

[glacial locust]

either mithril jewelry or the peer research notes

i'm sure neither is the most efficient but they use mats i already get a bunch of

[willow mist]

peer reviewed looks like the cheapest

less than 1 silver per note

[bright stump]

tofu

[willow mist]

oh nvm theres cheaper methods but thsoe are like 79 copper per note so not too far behind

[tardy ore]

i should have started LWS3 sooner
16 day timegate for the aurora starter collection

[glacial locust]

yea i wish i had all of lws3 when i was grinding hot masteries

doing aurora after i finished them got me to like 30 excess hot MP

[crystal cave]

Wait rly I do knaelbag- eparch only, I don't do anything else on that map

Nvm that was 30 messages back

I create and research raid precursor armor because it's funni

[crystal cave]

they should add more fractals to quickplay

they should add cms to quickplay

[tardy ore]

thats probably the plan for later

[tardy ore]

LWS3 jumping puzzles are wild

[crystal cave]

dont do searing ascent

just ttf

if you dont have a telel to friend

gold->gem

its worth

because fuck those vines

[rancid musk]

dont u need the mists 2 fully finish searing

like in chalice

[crystal cave]

nah

i teled

i also gained 20 gold cuz i logged into my alt when there were no parked tags

put mine on

announced in map chat

ez moni

5 minutes of service

[rancid musk]

i should do that

i leave my shit on when im working anyway

[crystal cave]

this was when return to draconis mons was happening

so peopel REALLY wanted to get the jp

[rancid musk]

park an alt at the most cringe VOE VP

and leave it there tagged up 247

[crystal cave]

auto run into wall

hope gm doesnt port you

[rancid musk]

if he does

im here working

ill type 2 him

[crystal cave]

smart

[rancid musk]

"what the fuck bro? put me back pussy"

[crystal cave]

that'll earn a favor

[rancid musk]

didnt do anything wrong, im here at my computer

i just really like walls

[crystal cave]

you and every other wvw enjoyer

[rancid musk]

exactly

[crystal cave]

solid plan

[rancid musk]

i wonder if um

these r worth even

with how cheap boxes r

it seems they r

lol even normal priced ones are

[crystal cave]

ye

boxes are super cheap rn

[rancid musk]

leme get some fractal relics team

thnx

[fickle barn]

https://www.twitch.tv/guildwars2

stream starting in 1 hour about the new skimmer update

[fickle barn]

NEW HAIRSTYLES NEXT WEEK FOR GW2 will be Shown off.

[rancid musk]

holy

free makeup kit?

[fickle barn]

[rancid musk]

either way

thats massive

[fickle barn]

yeah last new hairstyles were almost 4 years ago yikers

[rancid musk]

all my chars use the human side ponytail

praiyng theres a new 1

[fickle barn]

probably gonna be hopefully some nice tropical hairstyles

[shadow loom]

do not care for me

i aint changing all my character hair

[glacial locust]

maybe i can turn my salad into a pineapple

[shadow loom]

and i hate long hair

in gw2

everything clips like crazy

[willow mist]

is there a mod for event timers like this on nexus (i have tried the world boss one that puts circles on your map but that ones booty cheeks)

[fickle barn]

https://packaged-media.redd.it/f3kic59htrof1/pb/m2-res_1080p.mp4?m=DASHPlaylist.mpd&v=1&e=1758333600&s=9f79c5ffedcf698d22246e6e52e8829a7f4b861f

[digital bronze]

NEW

HAIRSTYLE

??????????

[fickle barn]

mhm

they will be shown off next week

[digital bronze]

IM READY

[fickle barn]

gonna be some tropical vibes give me all the flowy beach hair

[glacial locust]

if only my main characters weren't all bald

i've got like 8 makeover kits and no one to use them on lol

[willow mist]

my guy is bald too but i dont ever take off helmets so i dont see it

[crystal cave]

is this the one that you tried?

[willow mist]

no i think its just called world bosses or something

i think that one from your screenshot is more of a tool for other mods to use

or thats what i got from the github, so i never installed it to check

[crystal cave]

i never installed it cuz im an aerodrome/mistlock camper :<

lemme find out what it does

[willow mist]

there is an addon for blish hud that detects if nexus is active and moves the blish hud icons to the right so they dont overlap

think ill just run both that way lol

[crystal cave]

oh wow that works yea

[crystal cave]

maybe i shouldnt do wvw today

[rancid musk]

good day if ur greenm

[rocky sparrow]

on for guild mish?

[unique herald]

i wont lie this week was alot on my brain and i forgot

i can login

[rocky sparrow]

hang on

is there a gw2 role to ping for notifying guild mish?

[unique herald]

not that i know of

we give it more time anyways only 5 ppl online

[rocky sparrow]

I'll hop on the waiting room

[unique herald]

worst case we all busy or miss the good time window to start em but atleast we get the idea of what time would be good based on whos on when

[willow mist]

im available for guild missions

[glacial locust]

same

[rocky sparrow]

perhaps we'll do guild mish tomorrow

seems like nobody was expecting guild mish earlier

[unique herald]

also wont lie

im locked in agility

in osrs

if i lock in i finish today

[rocky sparrow]

do it

[tardy ore]

i feel ya
we are at the lowest bracket and get our shit kicked in because the allainces we have only ever play ebg

this morning we also had queue on ebg but our whole homeland was capped by greens because we didnt even have 10 people there

[glacial locust]

asdiofios these fuckin amnytas events, wtf reward is 3 stardust i'm better off grabbing motes

[willow mist]

is it for obsidian armor?

[glacial locust]

yea, i should probably just trade excess rift essence

[willow mist]

park some alts at a chest in each zone, and do the metas for the like big versions of the map mats

[glacial locust]

yea, i did the daily runs already and am trying to get ~100 of the last one for the gift of persistence

amnytas just kind of sucks for events, they're all spread out and have crappy rewards

[willow mist]

ohh yeah that sucks if youre so close and you just waana finish it

[glacial locust]

i still need a few more of the big map currencies for this piece and by the time i get those i'll probably have enough, just don't have much to do for progress with the daily meta runs done

[willow mist]

fair

[glacial locust]

feels like i'm always swimming in nayos currency, and skywatch isn't super awful... maybe that's just because somehow i ran more wizards tower events over the last couple weeks, i guess i wasn't really paying attention

[willow mist]

i think bc the nayos meta haas you doing so many small events

and if you do the thing during wizard tower where people grab all the staatic charges in the air, those will add up

[glacial locust]

yea, and nayos has 2 metas and, even when they're both down, there are a bunch of events running

...the 35:10 trade ratio just feels too bad to just farm the other maps lol

[pale flint]

Damn the soto/eod strikes are so good. I just finished doing them all a little bit ago

[crystal cave]

yea eod strikes were a huge step up from ibs

ibs strikes were "we wanna create a stepping stone for people to get into raids"

eod was "what if we just kinda replaced raids?"

soto was like "maybe 50-50"

and then jw was "here's a raid"

it was a very experimental time

[glacial locust]

man the boss reuse in jw is crazy

i guess at least it sort of lets you be familiar with mechanics, probably

[crystal cave]

anet wondering if people didnt touch raids because it was teh r word or because it was too hard

mm

i think if you do the open world boss

you have no clue how the convergence/raid bosses work

convergence atleast has some similar mechanics i think? idk ive done them twice

raid versions the only one where the mechanics do something tho

[glacial locust]

convergence it's kind of hard to even tell what the mechanics are with the visual clutter

[crystal cave]

you dont need to worry about visual clutter if you do the whole fight staring at your skillbar 👍

(dont do that)

(unless youre also a weirdo like me)

[glacial locust]

lol, me trying not to chop auto chains

[crystal cave]

ya most people learn their class to the point where they can just not look at skillbar

not me

i learn the fight so that i can not look at screen

[glacial locust]

i can sort of do necro gs and reaper shroud now

then messing around with condi druid dagger has frickin 1/4s autos

[crystal cave]

dagger auto chain has a kinda rythm tho

on ranger

i recommend just hitting the golem with only auto

[glacial locust]

yea i'm sure if i play it more i might get used to it, but i'm at the "spam my skills" stage since i've been class hopping again

[crystal cave]

mm makes sense ye

[glacial locust]

mostly waiting for galeshot on my ranger but needed some variety while grinding light obby

[crystal cave]

i used to play sb-dagger condi slb

the dagger part of the loop was strangely therapeutic

it looped very well

[glacial locust]

i feel like back when it was... dagger/axe + gs i about had the rhythm down

[rancid musk]

😭 new wvw roto

no one wanted 2 fight us

ran around ppt

shit game

ppt sucks

[crystal cave]

imagine having friends to wvw with and not 5 different meem guilds with 2 players in them

[willow mist]

i just be loading in and checking map for a commander tag

[rancid musk]

ethical

[crystal cave]

fair i do that too
most of the random pug tags basically only talk to people in their vc so its kinda lame following the shiny wondering what they're doing

[glacial locust]

tbh it's worse joining their discord and listening to them

[willow mist]

yeah i just got a stream up on the second monitor

[crystal cave]

ya then its just 40 minutes of inside jokes

[willow mist]

i will NOT be caught entering some randos discord server

[rancid musk]

if ur pub commander requires discord

just dont join

and follow them around

[willow mist]

especially a random gw2 player (no offense)

but yeah its usually super easy to just follow them

[crystal cave]

i think some of the most fun ive had in wvw is in some random pug discord tbh

like being a small 10p player squad

and then blowing up a zerg 3x your size

cuz youre more organised

[willow mist]

lmao

[crystal cave]

felt

[willow mist]

our group was getting ran over by another zerge

but later on in some fights we started poking at multiple sides at once and started winning

made me realize wvw can be pretty fun and not just brainless running into castles and killing lords lol

[crystal cave]

ye

following shiny without any communication whatsoever is just kinda boring content

and almost always ppt

[willow mist]

i feel that, i think i just havent been spoiled by being in a super organized group

[crystal cave]

im gonna be honest

[crystal cave]

ive heard a lot of old wvw heads complain that this isnt possible anymore

cuz of meta changes or whatever

i dont do wvw enough to follow the meta

but apparently wvw meta has sucked for the last 5 years straight

[glacial locust]

probably got harder with the boon strip nerf

[crystal cave]

oh ya funni warrir bubble got nuked right?

[glacial locust]

and scourge i think, idk i'm a wvw noob

[crystal cave]

null field still good?

idk

[willow mist]

im not too worried about meta i just throw my spears on warrior (im playing a meta build lol)

im guessing the boon strip was spellbreaker

[crystal cave]

not like meta builds but like the way squads fundamentally construct themselves/engange other squads

[crystal cave]

Ya spellbreaker bubble was hecking strong

I never run meta wvw builds tho
I just take pve full zerker ele and drop some meteor shower on them hos

[glacial locust]

...wasn't that basically ele zerg meta for awhile

[crystal cave]

I guess?
Never checked xD

[glacial locust]

ele staff buffs when anet

[crystal cave]

I'm sure my primordial stance did nothing

Ele staff is still hecking strong right

Specially now you can cast meteor shower 3 times in a row

Yesterday was funny

We were getting our teeth kicked in

In home keep in ebg

I was hiding in the hole where the gate is supposed to be

And casting meteor shower/lava font/pyroclastic blast repeatedly on the lord

They had no clue where I was

I was farming bags while everyone else on my team were dying

[glacial locust]

hm i wonder what evoker will do to that

[rocky sparrow]

Guild mish in like <t:1758470400:R> ?

[crystal cave]

Nothing
Evoker is sceptre merchant

90% of evoker value is currently tied in f5

[glacial locust]

don't they get faster weapon skill recharge?

[crystal cave]

Only if you take the fire camp

And only after casting 6 skills

So long cds are a no go zone

[glacial locust]

oh can't just spam meteor shower then lol

[crystal cave]

Ye it has a kind of antisynergy

[glacial locust]

rip my prophecies nostalgia

[glacial locust]

i think keld went to sleep

[crystal cave]

I think evoker should get like baseline 25% cdr on chosen element

In combat at least

[digital bronze]

do we know if fractals event reset on monday or tuesday?

[rocky sparrow]

Weekly reset on monday 8am

[crystal cave]

8 am is daily reset no? weekly reset should be some time in the afternoon

[rocky sparrow]

I'm using the dialy/weekly mission timer to tell

[crystal cave]

it resets 24h and 10 minutes from now

alongside guild missions

[digital bronze]

thank uuu

[rocky sparrow]

oic

weekly is 7 hours after the daily reset

3pm then

[willow mist]

turns out getting gob was actually not that bad at all and i was just complaining about playing wvw for no reason

LOL

[rancid musk]

🙂

[willow mist]

i also stopped sucking as much so that probably helped

now i just need a gorjillion gold to buy clovers

[rancid musk]

i know what gives a lot of clovers

more wvw

[willow mist]

🙂 so true!

[teal vault]

I like WvW even though I absolutely suck. I just take undefended camps or join a zerg. If I am ever in a 1v1 situation, I usually get dumpstered. Unless I do some cheeky shit like switch to a all-trap build and hope they aren't paying attention and don't have an answer for it 😄

[willow mist]

i just havent learned what each class and elite spec do yet, like a virtuoso runs up on me and hits me with their london-jutsu and i have a 17k damage sized hole in me

[teal vault]

Probably my biggest issue is running full berseker PvE build in WvW, so I drop like a fly. I really don't want to go get more ascended gear with Marauder stats or w/e just for WvW. Zerging seems to work just fine with a PvE berserker build.

[glacial locust]

just use the exotic wvw gear

[rancid musk]

ye a full set of mara or w/e is like 4g total or somthing at the robot

[glacial locust]

seems like you could even just buy a few pieces of valkyrie and get close to marauders, if you don't have expansions

[rancid musk]

🙁 no one wants 2 fight us

[teal vault]

I am guessing some mesmers did a bit of trolling with portals at the end of the chak gerent meta

[glacial locust]

ah yea you gotta watch out for that

or click the first couple chests

[willow mist]

damn this wvw thing is actually pretty fun, something must be terribly wrong with me

[fathom pine]

That's right, join a WvW guild and do WvW, ppl chat alot of random stuff while capping objectives and Zerg Zerg

[crystal cave]

It's not bad no

[tardy ore]

i might have to join a wvw guild as well
the alliance of my current team is pretty much non existant outside ebg

usually i couldnt care less how people spend their time in wvw
but theres a 40 queue on ebg while our home is completely capped by the other teams

at one point we were only ticking 38pts

which means we constantly are last in the ranking and get less pips for the chests

play however you want but dont sabotage my loot

on a positive note, i started preparing for the open world legendary armor and it feels good to see constsnt progress

[fathom pine]

Oof

Seems like MAG world

[tardy ore]

worst team in the lowest eu bracket

only sabing grace are our strong off hours where we earn back points

[crystal cave]

Fractal legendary is bugged :v

But they're working on it ™

[rancid musk]

Lol

What part

[crystal cave]

You can't select stats

Stuck on cele

The glove

[rancid musk]

Cele gamers thriving

[crystal cave]

The spare gloves are EXPENSIVE

[pale flint]

how expensive?

[crystal cave]

Like 200 g in runestones, one condensed might, magic and two gifts of research*

[pale flint]

thats not SO bad for a legendary thoooo

how do you get the first pair?

[crystal cave]

For one glove

It's the most expensive glove by a lot

First is free from acheive

[pale flint]

ok ez

[rancid musk]

I assume u talk 2 mist stranger for last part

2 gift of research is pretty cringe if u ask me (crafting sucks)

[crystal cave]

Also 18 clovers and 2 gifts of craftsmanship in case you haven't been doing cm raids for years and arent already loaded on those

I salvaged a bunch of precursor armor for my research notes

So really I'll be making them into legendaries again :^

[rancid musk]

Medium armor has the best slut mogs hands down

[crystal cave]

If I make them

[rancid musk]

But I'm lite forever

[crystal cave]

Too bad ele and mes are both light and rev is heavy

Only interesting classes ™

[pale flint]

heavy is cringe, light is life

[rancid musk]

Some warrior specs r fun

[crystal cave]

I have a warr I logged into yesterday

I had 4 birthday gifts

[pale flint]

maybe. i just dont like how the heavy armor sets look

[crystal cave]

Which is apparently how long it's been since banner warrior was a thing

:^

[rancid musk]

Is the glow a infusion

Or are u jailed to the ugly glove

For the glow

[crystal cave]

Idk I haven't logged in

Just watching strims

[rancid musk]

Tru

I should get up

Been laying in bedge for like nearly 2h now

[crystal cave]

I only have like 350 points anyways it'll take me a bit :/

[rancid musk]

I put my fan in my window and let that bitch run over night

It's so cold

I'm 50? Away

Easy work on a fresh reser

[crystal cave]

Wowee

[rancid musk]

But I wait

[crystal cave]

I already have full legy Im Just doing this for the infusion effects

:<

They better be good

[rancid musk]

Surely

And surely they work with legendary weps....

[crystal cave]

Time to look at some youtuber who has all the gloves already

Looking up random youtube video for glove effect is how I learn that necro now has access to dual swords

I'm in shambles

[rancid musk]

lol

[crystal cave]

Is necro actually cool now?

[rancid musk]

i like it

[tardy ore]

iirc necro 1-h swords are ranged ?

[rancid musk]

ur 2,3,4,5 are

ur 1 is 130

[crystal cave]

Ok damn
Might have to unretire the necro

Is it used in pve?

[rancid musk]

dagger sword is very good for reaper

idk about harb

sword/dagger*

spear for harb

[crystal cave]

[rancid musk]

and gs feels great 😎 on necro

and u use it on both dps variants

[crystal cave]

Oh ye weaponmastery means it's not reaper only anymore

[rancid musk]

yer

[crystal cave]

Kinda poggers

Necro had a really bad weapon usability issue

[rancid musk]

im a wvw main

so all i know is gs and axe

[crystal cave]

Almost all the base necro weapons were dogwater in pve

Axe 2 and dagger 4 were like the only clickable skills in the whole set

Or dagger 5 idk whichever one is condi transfer

Special mention to wh for breaking cc bars I guess

Sceptre was also ok

But it felt awful imo

[rancid musk]

support necro looks shit 2 play

beause of wep options

hm

so u gatta do the 150 dust, to chage ur glow color

seems like a cheap stat infusion tho

[tardy ore]

im not a fan of they wrapon mastery unlocking weapons for all spec
the wrapons used to be part of the class/spec identity

[crystal cave]

I get that

On one hand it's kinda cool being able to play warhorn on weaver.

But in practice it kinda just meant that every class basically haad all their weapons sorted into power/condi/heal/meme

And every spec plays with the same weapons

With exceptions

I'm glad weaver still likes sword

[rancid musk]

we need MORE weps per classes

give me a bow on my necro

[crystal cave]

we need more bows and shields in general

shield ele plsss

ill make shooshadoo

[rancid musk]

no shield

[crystal cave]

if we finally get shield ele

[rancid musk]

because then i AM farming out a season 2

[crystal cave]

xD

the only reason i dont have shooshadoo yet is because ele doesnt get shield

id totally farm my own gen 2 otherwise

[rancid musk]

i dont think

base gloves have a glow

pretty sure u need 2 buy these gems

for it 2 glow

[crystal cave]

hai does anyone wanna do quickplay cms

i need to be get the acheive for repping the same guild

:<

its cm cuz ill be playing bladesworn and i have NO clue how that class works so that'll be fun surely

[rancid musk]

yeah inv

ill be in the back afk

[crystal cave]

D:

but thats my role

[tardy ore]

you press all the buttons and pray you dont accidently jump off the platform

which obviously never happens to me (after i turned off auto targeting)

[glacial locust]

necro sword aa is 900, dagger aa is melee, gs + sword/sword reaper has been pretty fun

much nicer than our other ranged power option for sure

[rancid musk]

i dont think its 900

i moused over it

said 130

[glacial locust]

wiki says 900 and i've def. been using it at range, unless something changed overnight

[rancid musk]

u know what

i was on dagger mh

[glacial locust]

lol

[rancid musk]

which is def 130

so ye u rite

is sword/sword better than dagger/sword

[glacial locust]

they're both on snowcrows so that's good enough for me

benchmark is less than 1k dps difference

[cloud narwhal]

What does MAG world mean?

[rancid musk]

MAG is a alliance

from the old magumma server

they play like a bunca bitches

extremely annoying 2 fight

even if u win, u lose because u had 2 play them

[crystal cave]

sounds about right

everyone in my server would take a break when maguuma match up came so idk

[rancid musk]

yup

[crystal cave]

they camp ebg

[rancid musk]

my reaction 2 being free

[cloud narwhal]

I didn't know there was this whole subculture to wvw.

[digital bronze]

@willow mist

[willow mist]

I'll be there in a couple minutes!

[unique herald]

hfhf

[unique herald]

this ur new alt

[cloud narwhal]

Nah the mastery level is too high to be Hanna.

[willow mist]

RAHHHHHHH

[tardy ore]

material economy is gonna be messed up for a while with all the free legendary starter kits

[rancid musk]

sorry

im meant

dont we get a second key

in like

a month

so its getting a double whammy

[glacial locust]

you mean at season reset? probably

[rancid musk]

yeah

i assume we get a new key in 36 days

so it just hits the umm

might/magic thing aghain

[bright stump]

it doesn't really do a ton for the other generations

not like you can break down a gift of fortune

[glacial locust]

yea all of the legendaries i have worked on want gift of condensed might/magic

[rancid musk]

i am out of clovers

life is painge

[teal vault]

I want sunrise as my first legendary I think. From a practical standpoint, it probably makes sense to get trinkets first as those get used on all characters. But I have nostalgia for twilight/sunrise/eternity back in 2012. They look so good. Still my favorite looking legendary weapons. I would even say my favorite weapon skins in the game even.

[rancid musk]

gen 1 is free tho

with key

prismatic/aurora/visons/rings r pretty much free

fract backpack is 100% free

orrax is hell

[teal vault]

Still requires gift of fortune, which is 77 clovers

[rancid musk]

i guess im just super out of touch on clovers

wvw prints them, so i had like 400 saved up

[teal vault]

I have done two weeks of dedicated wvw so far. Working on building up my clovers to get my first legendary crafted

[glacial locust]

generally the "best" first legendary is an armor set, even moreso with the soto set, but if you really like a weapon skin send it

trinkets are nice but they cost a ton of gold, although i guess weapons do too

the thing is armor lets you freely swap in/out runes alongside the infusions

and ascended trinkets are easy with lws3

...also the free transmogs, if you like to play with skins at all

[willow mist]

nostalgia and what u think looks cool is most important

legendary accessories are more "practical" but its so easy to get ascended versions so

[teal vault]

Oh I didn’t know you could freely swap runes with legendary armor. Is there much use to legendary runes then? Just so you don’t need to hold multiple rune sets in your bags and for multiple characters at the same time?

[willow mist]

yeah

also legendary accessories come with some annoying quests and collections to get them, prolly bc anet understands how good they are

[teal vault]

Yeah I unlocked aurora collections just so I could do some of the things unintentionally while doing other stuff.

[bright stump]

Yes and no.

inventory spacing.

depends on how many builds and how niche you want to get

but there was a point in time where, before we had a lot of build templates and such, I would carry 3-4 sets of gear with me.

runes/sigils is another where you might want to carry more to switch out for stuff if you need to.

but if you have a bank.... and have spaces in bank, and a perma bank contract....

that's psedo legendary right there :P

to date, I STILL carry some ascended weapons on my wvw characters, so I can do quick swaps for prebuffing or stuff like that without needing to recongure in loadout

[glacial locust]

leggy runes are low priority, probably around where weapons are

especially now that leggy runes are more expensive and they moved the interesting part of runes to relics

you might get some mileage out of a leggy sigil or two for some hard min-maxing though

[rancid musk]

i always thought it was weird how little "value" people put on the leggy wep

once u got 1, ur set for that type... forever

and a lot of classes share the wep type

axes/dagger/swords

etc

big value

[glacial locust]

it's not like it's not valuable, it's just less valuable than the other leggies, and a lot more build dependent

like the leggy weapons cost as much as the trinkets, which every char will always be using in every build

[rancid musk]

leggy weps r much easier 2 get (gen1) then trinkets tho

and def easier than armor

[glacial locust]

well yea, you can whale for gen1 and gen3

[unique herald]

I put more value on leggie left side than right side for that reason

Ez to get ascended trinkets

[rancid musk]

yeah

that

also hear me out

[unique herald]

Left side tho i dont wanna do strikes daily

[glacial locust]

also leggy weapons have some slightly reduced utility because of the usefulness of quickswaps with ascendeds

[rancid musk]

druidic shards

[unique herald]

Im too lazy

[willow mist]

Leggy weapons also look sick as fuck

[rancid musk]

when xpac drops, assuming they give a new leggy starter key, im gonna use it for my other gif, then boom free legendary pretty much

[willow mist]

Anet should have bias towards bladesworn and let us get some legendary type cosmetic for funsaber

Ok funsaber was a typo but that sounds fire

[glacial locust]

map completion though...

[rancid musk]

got 1

in my bank

[glacial locust]

yea anet's slacking on the skins for... skill? weapons, however we want to call them

[willow mist]

Maybe they can give necro shroud scythe cosmetic as a compromise

[rancid musk]

thats why i want dragonvoid

i think the shroud form is sick af

for reaper

[glacial locust]

i mean the reaper scythe is already top tier cosmetic

[rancid musk]

if im that 247 im pogging

[willow mist]

Pogging state of being

Now I need to get a leggy sword or pistol so I can actually use it on my main spec lol

[rancid musk]

ight

might get burned for this

there is no good looking legendary 1h sword

bolt looks like shit

[unique herald]

I cant believe u would tell the truth like that

[rancid musk]

shining blade is bad

[unique herald]

HOW DARE U TELL US THE TRUTH

[rancid musk]

and the aurene shit is mid at best

even the reskins

[unique herald]

Ngl

I want a leggie that looks like a harry potter wand

[rancid musk]

dont need a leggy for what

[unique herald]

The scpeters that look like wands sometimes to big for my taste

Some are ok

But whatever

I use rifle most the time

Or spear for spvp

And what i meant is like

Give me aurenes harry potter wand

[rancid musk]

lol

[willow mist]

True

Looks like wolnirs sword from ds3

The footfall effect would match my set

I think if I get a 1h sword it would be gen3

[glacial locust]

there are a lot of ugly legendary weapons

the gen 2 scepter is cool though

[unique herald]

Ngl

[glacial locust]

you get a little friend

[unique herald]

Greatsword mesmer looks dumb cause its a ranged weapon

[rancid musk]

need ipos

bad

[rocky sparrow]

and then there's rev hammer and rev scepter

[glacial locust]

warrior gs should be a ranged weapon

norn himbos just chucking giant swords at mobs would be hilarious

[willow mist]

I think it's no longer a feature but if you used the eclipse skin on Mesmer greatsword the ribbons would twirl with the animation

[unique herald]

I read online someones gloves only come in celestial...

Stg if all of this is for celestial gloves

[rocky sparrow]

bugged, stuck with only celestial huh

that's some special legendary glove indeed

[glacial locust]

at least cele ele is good

[rancid musk]

https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/topic/162658-fractal-event-legendary-gloves-are-only-celestial/page/3/#comment-2352090

Rubi Bayer.8493
Rubi Bayer.8493
ArenaNet Staff
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Posted 1 hour ago
I've got an update for you all! The stat selection issue is a bug, we've got a fix for it, and we're working to get it to you as soon as possible.

[glacial locust]

honestly i don't understand how they even messed that up

[unique herald]

And sorry if someone already asked

[rancid musk]

my guess?

the frist glove u get