Parry stasis patch

[pliant leaf]

In my short experimentation, parry stasis appears to be fixed. I want to know if this is planned to be added back, or is it going to stay patched out

[jaunty bramble]

please bring it back 🙁

[ebon rock]

parry stasis and 0g are peak emergent gameplay. Bring them back please

[peak lichen]

0g is here its literally just parry stasis timings now

no frame perfects

[ebon rock]

shh

[peak lichen]

Lmao

[ebon rock]

trying to parry stasis prevents ungrounding on parry

[spring hull]

I don't think they even know what parry stasis is

[jaunty bramble]

a delayed parry stasis happened in one of my matches, idk how, the wall wasn't grounded before it happened. a wall skimmed another wall and i think my opponent parried it at that moment? or maybe held it, not sure.

[spring hull]

I've seen 0g happen but that's it

it was on a boulder and hella funny

[ebon rock]

What was the result? Like the symptoms

-# symptoms is a weird word for this

[solar vigil]

I think they definitely know what it is, but they themselves maybe have never done one. Hard to test something you are not experienced in. That's why we are beta testing.

But it has always been a question if they liked stasis or not. They might have always intended to fix it. But a very big chance it is caused by the unintentional physics change from the engine update.

[teal marsh]

THE NEW PHYSICS ENGINE IS TOO GOOD?

[kind sonnet]

-# poor arm tech ;n; we will miss you 🥀

[teal marsh]

arm tech was weird

[kind sonnet]

agreed, it needed to go.

[teal marsh]

and it only got popular recently so it isn't that bad

[kind sonnet]

but I'll miss it.

[solar vigil]

Arm tech felt like cheating to me. It did not feel like earthbending.

[kind sonnet]

we of the arm tech community agree.

it was just way too fun

it had to go

[solar vigil]

I can understand that.

[kind sonnet]

but I will miss it

[solar vigil]

0g also makes no sense in our game. But that one is just funny without giving advantages in matches. So I hope the nonsensical funny 0g stays in the game.

[kind sonnet]

true.

may it live long

[solar vigil]

And stasis while slightly a stretch, literally, definitely feels like earthbending.

[teal marsh]

the thing with bugs is that if they're hard enough to do and are cool without being game breaking and the community likes them, I don't see a reason to patch them

stasis is just rule of cool

same with flight

and railgun

they're too cool to patch out

[ebon rock]

-# Even the players still keep confusing parry stasis and plastic deformation

[ebon rock]

It felt like drifting-lite

[kind sonnet]

except terrain boosting

[ebon rock]

I think railgun is intentional now. I remember one of the devs saying they're definitely keeping that one

because it's fun

When TacoSlayer and I showed Maarten 0g in a park, he said put it in the feedback site so they "can fix it".

We responded with "Fix it? No" and proceeded to not post it on the feedback site lol

[solar vigil]

I don't confuse them, to me plastic deforestation is a part of stasis tech.
There are also multiple types of stasis. As ground stasis is also a stasis tech but functions totally different from parry stasis.

[ebon rock]

Yeah. I just see a lot of players describe plastic deformation, regardless of whether or not stasis was actually involved in how it came about being called parry stasis or delayed parry stasis

[teal marsh]

GROUND STASIS MENTIONED

[solar vigil]

I like ground stasis. Still need to test it in the beta

But first need my belts...

[kind sonnet]

mmmmyes plastic deforestation.
is that getting rid of forests using plastic? or getting plastic out of the world? (deforestation of plastic)

ohp

sorry for the ping

[solar vigil]

Not gonna correct that, too funny

[ebon rock]

This is exactly the attitude we want the devs to have in this game. Unironically

[jaunty bramble]

it was a normal DPS from what i know. i summoned structures under it and they broke, i flicked it and nothing happened until my opponent parried it and it recalled to me

[radiant panther]

oh they know, at least kaj should

[radiant panther]

actually can you check whether kicking a structure during hitstop ungrounds it

can't rumble until new year

[radiant panther]

specifically with 0 gained momentum

[pliant leaf]

It doesn't unground

[radiant panther]

oh damn

that's more important then

because that means core logic of hitstop has changed

[pliant leaf]

Yeah, that's unexpected

[radiant panther]

imma make a post

[pliant leaf]

If you hitstop immediately after kicking, it cancels the momentum

[radiant panther]

how immediately

like 1 frame after?

[pliant leaf]

I'd say like within 0.1 sec

[radiant panther]

https://discord.com/channels/362905006275297290/1451617488264630303

[radiant panther]

that's fairly close to 1 frame so can't tell you whether that's new or not

[radiant panther]

honestly it doesn't surprise me that the weird bs hitstop machine broke during the transition

[errant sparrow]

its still here

(keep it on the down low tho XD)

[kind sonnet]

In a very different way.

[errant sparrow]

naw

[errant sparrow]

train boost and phaze still work

[kind sonnet]

Arm tech phase or lightning phase?

And do you mean structure boost or actual terrain boost?

[errant sparrow]

all of this is still in according to my testing

they just a lil jank

[kind sonnet]

I've also tested it.

Structure boost still exists, but it now lies outside of what I would call "arm tech"
Same with phasing.

The only thing even remotely similar to arm tech jank I've seen is structure dragging.

Which I'll talk about later. Is bed time for me now.

[errant sparrow]

terain boost is way harder for sure but ive gotten very good results after trying a little

[kind sonnet]

Send a clip to me some time. I want to see

[errant sparrow]

they flattened the wall hitboxes

[errant sparrow]

on quest?

imposible

[kind sonnet]

Is possible, just hard

[teal marsh]

what's that?

[kind sonnet]

Heh
https://discord.com/channels/1429833611464413196/1444301461071855761