#Can't interact with ball and disc while spawning

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warped eagle
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If your pose consistency is too good, you can't do a ball-straight or disc-straight combo. Because the ball and disc are still spawning, they are invalid targets to your straight. And since you are already in the straight pose, you first have to go out of that pose before you can try again.

I know my poses are right, as my straight can interact with other structures than the spawning ball/disc and the tutorial shows it was the right pose.
This is not a problem in the steam version.

Easier to test with ball straight

glacial roost
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it feels weird too cos you have to pull back or do a weird wiggle motion to get the ball straight to go off

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its like a cats paw wack

warped eagle
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Yes, as long you are already at a straight pose you need to wait out the pose cooldown and first get out of the pose. So something really felt off, until I figured out the reason.

bronze pollen
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if you raise your hand up more from summoning ball and then back down into the straight it works pretty consistently

warped eagle
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warped eagle
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I really thought my straight pose just wasnt working at all.

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warped eagle
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so I'd say this bug might be "things take longer to spawn than in pcvr" ?

warped eagle
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Maybe, will compare with PC later today

wraith shuttle
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Also, a quick note, we have done a huge jump in engine version compared to the current live version. That engine upgrade has brought changes with it to the physics engine that have impacted the overall feel and timing of some aspects of combat.

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wraith shuttle
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We are aware of this, and already have made changes to make some elements more in line with the current live version

wraith shuttle
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Most of the changes in physics are applicable on the PC version now as well, but not each one and there can be complications in physics that only arrise on the standalone platforms

clear basin
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Oooo wait that gives me a question. Did you guys mean to remove arm tech? Or was it a byproduct of the new physics

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i have yet to see someone say "I believe this will remain in the game"

clear basin
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Yea no, I think it should go also, I was just wondering if they got rid of it on purpose or on accident

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bringing this to #rumble-talk

rare marsh
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Not being able to ball-straight is annoying indeed, I kept getting caught off-guard by it. I'd love for it to be fixed, please please please!

bold plume
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oh so I wasn't having a skill issue. Or I was. Just too-much-skill issue

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Now I know how the legacies felt when they removed speed ball the first time.

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pure scroll
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it definitely feels super weird. i tend you mix up chip damage in my playstyle and it's bit me in the rear more than once. it felt even weirder in my head when i couldn't apply explode to it as fast

wispy harness
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It just ask you to wait 0.5 (or something) seconds to do it. Its not that big of a deal.

willow viper
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not a huge deal but kinda annoying to get used to

warped eagle
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It feels really clunky... As I usually already move quite slowly for ball straight. But my poses are just wel optimized for the most minimal transition. Now I have to pause my poses to do them slow enough and I am still too early frequently...

wispy harness
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It should be explain again and again that for a physics based beta game relying on muscle memory to be the same across years of development is a fever dream. Devs should probably diver their attention towards real bugs like the 0g, the friend queue and other things than this

warped eagle
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I 💯 agree, some stuff are way more important. No voice chat bug is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more important to me.

But that doesn't mean this shouldn't be mentioned. Especially since the devs did not intend this change and need to figure out why things became so much slower or if people are fine with the unintentional change or not.

rare marsh
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Yup, Kaj told us that this change wasn't intentional. They didn't change the numbers, but they did change their physics engine, which apparently made everything slower.

wispy harness
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I like that accidental change. Doesn't seem to change what you do just how fast you do it.

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The fly people will find their new setups soon

rare marsh
wispy harness
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Use the pillar spring set up and you are good. It's a arena fighting game, it still is strange that you would want to fly away from a match you willingly got yourself into

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Park is perfect for that, all in the mountains

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wispy harness
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Yes and they should think about amking it official. It kicks ass

pure fog
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maybe in a less buggy manner

pure fog
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Ive found out more about this, you can hold the ball and disk immediately, and you can modify the ball after youve held it

glacial roost
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Thats why i felt that bDHS was better

viscid token
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This seems like it would be a nerf to some chambering, especially when trying to send out a ball-straight before the charge on another structure finishes

warped eagle
viscid token
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I assume other structures spawning in slower as well means they're unlikely to be useful as an alternative...? So, I assume that would mostly leave normal discs as a filler.

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I suppose we'll see how things go in the release version

glacial roost
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It would also buff some chambering you could interact with the ball with hold as soon as it spawned but not straight it

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That's why I thought ball hold straight was better