Craft count ai is broken.

[red ravine]

I just had to change all the ai for my aa rooms as the old craft count ai no longer works and they did not turn on even against full carriers.

[atomic skiff]

had to hot swap mine to save my ship

[red ravine]

Yeah assault craft and defensive craft ai's work, but the regular craft count condition no longer detects any craft

[agile dirge]

ah crap

[red ravine]

I just did a test against my alt with my main running the ai with assault and defensive craft and my alt running the previous craft count ai...... my alt never turned on it's aa against full carrier spam

[agile dirge]

yea i know my mistake here

will fix it for next update

[red ravine]

Any idea how long until that next update so I know if I have to tell my community to fix everything?

[agile dirge]

well depending on how many more bugs appear during the week

as we would want to try and have as many as possible into the hotfix

[final spade]

Totally understand trying to get everything together for a hot fix. But literally every person uses AA. The longer this waits the longer people with take advantage of it to effect rankings every day leading to tourny and tournement if its not fixed before then. Much like how people abused the EMP instant kill situation back in the day

[red ravine]

Yeah @agile dirge I don't think this can wait as it would break every single ship in the game that uses AA

Like this is a massive problem

[agile dirge]

yea but it would be worse if there are other similarly or more pressing issues that also require intervention. Because the moment we submit a build its locked in for iOS/MacOS

it will be even more significant delay if we pull it

so we have to wait

[red ravine]

Yes but every ship in the game is broken. The delay is needed as this is a game breaking bug

[agile dirge]

as bad as "ppl taking advantage" is, its not end of the world

[agile dirge]

not really

its not preventing ppl from playing or anything

its critical yes

but not what we would consider "game breaking" from our perspective

sadly

[red ravine]

It is if people have no idea their ship literally will not turn on it's aa against carrier

[final spade]

Game breaking no, but it sucks waking up because the update happened in the middle of the night for you and you drop 40 ranks because everyone else updated and took advantage. And thats one day

[agile dirge]

again, i understand YOU view it as "game breaking" but i'm saying as far as the team is concerned it isn't AS pressing

[agile dirge]

yes i know but the alternative would be worse if there are other bugs that are as bad or worse and we miss it for our hotfix

[atomic skiff]

🙁

[cold girder]

Oh this is not good

[agile dirge]

i'll give it at least a day and i'll try to get a hotfix out before friday

[buoyant thorn]

gotta love those friday hotfixes before the weekend when the tournament begins XD

[final spade]

Also were seeing many in game chat already starting to say if the starbux farming is a thing from starbase controls this could be the death of many small communities and some are saying just join the top fleets cause thats all that will survive

[agile dirge]

eh we'll see how it goes we may potentially tune down the starbux rewards or increase the cost

also not as if everyone can "join" top fleets

those who can't won't have a choice but to stay in the small communities

i don't think this is really an issue

[final spade]

How many planets can one community take?

As many as we have fleets?

[agile dirge]

currently i've set a hard limit to 5 systems per fleet

but again i think people are underestimating how difficult it will be to hold many star systems

[final spade]

5 fleets per fleet or 5 ships per planet?

[final spade]

My concern is a syndicate being made. 100 bux a day x50 planets is 5k a day what stops trek, summit, vikings. Dynasty etc from becoming a super community and just taking everything? Like not trying to fight but this incentives smaller communities dieing off to form super ones no? And theres no way to stop a community from taking as many as they can within the rules of the game

[agile dirge]

sry typo 5 systems per fleet

[final spade]

Ahh makes more sense

[cobalt raft]

@agile dirge eta on aa fix? youve effectively made half the ai unusable

[agile dirge]

i already have a fixed build, just that as mentioned above i'm just giving it abit of time to see if there are any more issues to address before submitting for release

[cobalt raft]

then push it

"we have a fix but we wont apply it because hurr durr"

[agile dirge]

No

We will apply it soon but u will have to wait

[cobalt raft]

well maybe you could've just idk, applied it WHILE server was under maint

[cobalt raft]

so in a month? because last hot fix was almost a month ago

[cobalt raft]

a good 90% of players currently have 0 power in AA, if i hadnt been notified by @red ravine i wouldnt have noticed

we as players expect the most basic ai commands we use to function properly and not break

[agile dirge]

its a client update

[agile dirge]

that's because we had holidays

[cobalt raft]

yeah and cny is in 10 days

iirc you also have that off no?

[agile dirge]

well don't worry it will roll out sometime this week

just not NOW

also its not 10 days

CNY starts mid feb

[cobalt raft]

well lets hope its NOT friday and BEFORE tournament

[agile dirge]

so u want it DURING tournament? OK

😛

[cobalt raft]

with your CURRENT track record it'll be AFTER

[agile dirge]

a fix will come when it is good and ready

whether it is before, during, or after

[cobalt raft]

istg

[cobalt raft]

but its ready

[agile dirge]

this specific issue yes, but as i said we aren't just worried only about this issue

[cobalt raft]

well maybe you should've tested the update more before pushing the update

you've already delayed the update once

[placid anchor]

is it possible to push this fix and push again later for any subsequent bugs you will find?

[agile dirge]

Yes but that will cause a huge delay for any other issues, because of Apple review times

its better if we wait just abit to catch any more obvious critical issues

than risk having to wait even longer

like i said, this isn't a complete gamebreak/showstopper bug

so it does not warrant that urgent a fast track

not for us anyway

[proper vault]

The new ai commands work, or do they not? Can we not change the lines that used
any craft count >x
to
Assault craft count > x
Or is that one broken as well?

[cobalt raft]

My ai check for all

And I don’t want to write new ai for a function that exists and up until recently worked

With a confirmed fix the devs refuse to patch

[inland locust]

I'd like to follow up on Lurelin's questions. Does the assault craft -> increase power AI work or is that broken too?

Because it'd be a decent application just to avoid DFH craft anyway.

[proper vault]

I hear some people from my fleet use it. So i guess it works

[inland locust]

Nice. Thanks for the tip friend.

[agile dirge]

its just the "all" version that's broken

[forest heath]

This is an extremely good point. Id rather have broken aa ai right now for a short time, than something else for a long time

[distant terrace]

I haven't seen any way for fleet families to coordinate or benefit from sub fleets. You don't get the resources from "allied" fleets. Only way to do what you're talking about would be to cycle through leaving and joining each fleet each day to collect the resources.

[agile dirge]

also only 3 star systems have max tier 5 infrastructure for Commerce

[foggy tree]

is there any way this can be pushed now

I have also heard that decoy drones are not being counted in any of the conditions potentially??