Is my vault getting reset for next update?

[willow venture]

I heard our vaults were getting wiped for the next update

[peak pivot]

from who?

[hallow ravine]

@unique chasm 🙏

[unique chasm]

God I hope so 🙏

[willow venture]

Reddit was talking about the twid and it was mentioned

[heavy jacinth]

Hey wait I know you

Also I hope not because I did too much grinding on this game for it to all be wiped

The only reason bungie would do that is if they made a 3rd game entirely

[frosty seal]

Weapons will carry over but I don't see a practical way to carry over armor as all stats have changed

[jolly silo]

I know it sounds crazy, but what if they just converted the stats

[frosty seal]

That would make armor irrelevant as stats are different. Anyway unless Bungie clarifies beforehand we'll only get to know once the expansion launches

[jolly silo]

??? Stats being converted means armor still has stats and can still be used, look at the datto vid and you'll see that stats are just getting converted 1:1 with their new version

[frosty seal]

Current system is mobility, resilience, recovery in 1st half, discipline, intellect, strength in 2nd half. I optimise based on class/build and assume most would too, e.g. resilience, discipline, recovery close to 100 for warlocks

New system is health, melee, grenade in 1st half, super, class and weapons in 2nd half. If renamed, stats would be horribly wrong, e.g. 4th stat now discipline would map to 4rd stat later grenade

Also, look at the distribution is datto's video. Most points are in 1st half based on build (370 vs 88). Currently it's equally divided with only stat mods shifting the balance. With new cap of 200, even the exact same stats would still make current perfectly optimised armor mediocre

[jolly silo]

Mobil becomes weapons, resil health, recovery health, discipline grenade, strength melee, intellect super

If you have a grenade build and you have armor with 30 discipline now it'll still be good when edge of fate drop, if anything it'll be even better

+you mentioned stats being focused on the first half when edge drops, like no doubt Sherlock if stats are being moved around and people only focus on resil disc and strength and those get moved to the 1st half obviously it looks like all the stats are accumulated there

[frosty seal]

Let's wait and see. Typically its easy to focus legendary armor with seasonal vendors. I'm assuming there will be something similar next season. Focusing exotics to get high stats distributed properly has been a pain. Hopefully either Rahool will be tuned or there will be better alternatives

[hallow ravine]

Bonjour

[willow venture]

No their probably gonna wipe all armor and give us the transmogs for it, then give us up to date armor for free as a free start pack

[jolly silo]

that would make no sense since we can literally see in vids from streamers that armor is getting converted to the new stats

[frosty seal]

Wait a few days, I'm sure bungie will clarify just like the note they issued for 1 fragment for some prismatic aspects (will be 2 min)

[willow venture]

They’re not playing the full game tho, just a showcase. It’s bound to be different

[peak pivot]

Very unlikely that they'll straight up delete old armor. It wouldn't make sense. They didn't do it for amror 2.0 either

It's much more likely to just be converted like untizio said

[heavy jacinth]

Can't send images, but this is quoted from the TWAB:

Mobility is now Weapons
Resilience is now Health
Recovery is now Class

Strength is now Melee
Discipline is now Grenade
Intellect is now Super

Armor isn't getting removed from our vaults

[frosty seal]

Assuming above is true, warlock and titan armor will still hold till we get better armor but would need recovery instead of mobility spikes on hunter armor to be viable, correct?

[jolly silo]

"viability" will be entirely dependant on your build, not on the class you're playing

stats will actually be integral to the build, instead of just being pretty numbers next to your armor

if you want to use a build that benefits from grenades obviously any armor with a lot of grenade stat will be better

[frosty seal]

All hunter builds I play have spikes in resilience, mobility (for class ability) and discipline. Given class ability will now map to class in future (currently recovery), stats need to shift to recovery from mobility

Have 99 echo engrams, hopefully can get usable legendary armor from there. Want to play legendary campaigns when they launch which would need good loadout at start before better edge of fate armor starts dropping

[jolly silo]

seasonal engrams are gonna leave once edge of fate drops

start getting the armor now

[frosty seal]

There should be some engram focusing next season as well, removed a lot of the grind. Regularly get godrolls from helm focusing which are better than the few artifice armor pieces I have