how much better is an eager edge vorpal FG compared to the same roll on TOH?

[velvet jay]

just wondering if its worth to farm it

[crystal niche]

TOH?

[velvet jay]

the other half

[crystal niche]

Well guillotine is for dmg

[winged ice]

guiolltine has faster skating

so its better for both

[mystic delta]

If ur just using it for movement vortex frames are definitely way better

The heavy attack takes u further so skating w it is faster and longer

[stoic torrent]

there are certain transitions that are easier on TOH like ron 2-3 if skating.
it also has surrounded which is nice, i prefer TOH for RoN but in pretty much every other bit of content the vortex frames are better

[hot grotto]

Vortex frame better and faster for skating but worse for basic eager edge since the lunge is a bit smaller than adaptive, plus the window is slightly tighter and can consume heavy ammo if not timed well

[mystic delta]

Wdym basic eager edge

Light attacks?

Light attacks on vortex and adaptive frames r the same

[hot grotto]

Could have sworn I saw a video saying for basic eager edge movement adaptives have a better lunge distance than vortex frames

Might have been before we could enhance the perk probably