what's the most effective raid to farm as someone returning?

[loud jasper]

I've got most of the deepsight weapons from last wish and VOTD, but still lacking some here and there (mainly newer raids) so was wondering what the best option would be?

[proper abyss]

you can only farm the rotator raid for the week, which is currently Last Wish

look through the loot pools of the othe raids and see if you want anything

[loud jasper]

but i can do one run on each character and get rewards right? sorry the system might've changed im not sure

[proper abyss]

correct

[loud jasper]

so if i was to do one run, whoch one?

[proper abyss]

are there any weapon archetypes you want right now?

[loud jasper]

which ones are good?

[left hearth]

hand cannons

[loud jasper]

so what raid should i do to gain the deepsights for hcs?

[sinful ember]

Deepstone crypt and last wish (make sure to get the redborder quest from hawthorne) have the best craftable guns as a whole

[slate blaze]

Ive only ever seen anyone use heritage

And bequest

But bequest is dated now

[sinful ember]

Succession, commemoration, bequest. Bequest still is near best for its niche with how wave frame stacking works

[left hearth]

kings fall has the best solar crota has the best void and last wish has the best arc

i would say the kings fall one is the best out of the 3 though

[slate blaze]

Nope summon has higher impact so even without heavy attacks its better

[slate blaze]

Crota only wins because its the only void raid hc

[loud jasper]

can i please get a concrete answer 😭

[slate blaze]

I don't know if you will ever use any of the raid hcs as rocket sidearms kinda do everything better

[sinful ember]

Concrete answer is just get all the redborders

[loud jasper]

im not really focused on handcannons, only was bc maj suggested it

[slate blaze]

But don't worry about the crota ones

[loud jasper]

i just wanna know what raid gives the best weapons

[slate blaze]

SE

[loud jasper]

okay

ill have to get sherpad tomorrow then
thank you !!

[slate blaze]

Np

[left hearth]

i mean it has really good perks mfs just hate 180s

[static zinc]

Also crota has 2 massive duds with Oversoul Edict and the scout who’s name I can’t be bothered to remember

[slate blaze]

The only exception to 180s being crap is velpeca because it has stl

[slate blaze]

I can safely say none of the weapons you get in crotas end are best in slot

They all have awful frames

[left hearth]

pulse is ok

[static zinc]

Anyways if you want my recommendation for what to run @loud jasper just do Deepstone Crypt for commemoration and heritage

[slate blaze]

Its not very good

The seasonal one is better

[sinful ember]

seasonal pulse is goated, i be bunny hopping all over with it

[static zinc]

Commemoration is the only LMG worth running with substinence and KT, and Heritage is still like the second or maybe third best shotgun they’ve ever made

[left hearth]

but demo

[slate blaze]

SUBSTINENCE

[static zinc]

Last Wish for Apex Predator but that’s kind of it

[static zinc]

Potato potato the perk that gives 10% (17% on smgs and lmgs) mag refill on kill

[loud jasper]

okay thats a raid i actually know thank god

[left hearth]

yeah no use recon please

[slate blaze]

Rapid fire frames do like no dmg

[left hearth]

but demo

[slate blaze]

This

[slate blaze]

But its a crappy pulse and u lose the origin trait if you reload using demo

And the enemy that die to jolt do not give grenade energy

And there are so many other options then crota pulse that are so much better

[slate blaze]

Does killing tally get reset by substinence.

[loud jasper]

also are these pvp or pve reccomendations?
cause id love some pve ones too

[left hearth]

pve

[loud jasper]

while i have you here; whats the best dps at the moment?

[slate blaze]

Every suggestion so far has been pve

[slate blaze]

Still hunt hunters with apex

[loud jasper]

hunters?
I thought it was warlock? sorry im out of touch

[slate blaze]

No raid weapon is really pvp meta

Besides exotics

[static zinc]

Nope

[slate blaze]

Im thinking of kill clip

[static zinc]

Doesn’t get reset by demolitionist, grave robber, thread of ascent/domineering

Only gets reset by reload dodge because that’s coded to act as a reload to proc kill clip and the like

[slate blaze]

Nah warlocks just have nova bomb star eaters besides that they are pretty avg

[static zinc]

B&S Grenade Launchers with whatever else you wanna mix in

[loud jasper]

whats B&S

[slate blaze]

Bait and switch

[loud jasper]

oooh
is that one RL from ghosts of the deep not good anymore?

[slate blaze]

Its still pretty good

[static zinc]

still great

It’s just people don’t run rockets as much anymore

[slate blaze]

Its just not rocket hard meta anymore

[loud jasper]

so whats the best GL i should look out for?
I have an edge transit with envious and B&S?

[slate blaze]

Thats pretty much it

[loud jasper]

wow okay begginers luck lmao
and is that with witherhoard?

[slate blaze]

depends on ur team

[left hearth]

doesnt really matter if ur just dumping an envious mag with no rotation

[loud jasper]

i forget how complicated this game is whats the "depends" part?
also what perks should i look out for in the seasonal tree thing?

[slate blaze]

Only one person can use wither hoard

[left hearth]

witherhoard doesnt stack

and the sniper artifact ones and shieldcrush and transference

[static zinc]

Go for the ol’ Bilibili special and run Izzy

[loud jasper]

okay got it; so grenade launchers are meta, witherhoard can only be used if its only you using it, play DSC for commemoration + heritage, and get those things. lastly, cartesian any good anymore?

[left hearth]

its ok

[static zinc]

I mean yeah? Hasn’t been nerfed?

[slate blaze]

It's good for rocket rotations but not gls

[static zinc]

But it’s also just not that necessary, it’s pretty much a shotgun with charge time

Much moreso a roam content gun than for direct damage

[slate blaze]

Erm no

[static zinc]

If you have a build with crazy high uptime like the Bleak Watcher/Getaway Artist I’d recommend it, but it’s not really for boss dps outside of burning time for ALH/Recon reloads on Rockets

[loud jasper]

okay wait these questions keep coming to me and i feel i need to ask them
is the new cayde sniper now the best dps for Oryx or is it still Briars/Cataclysmic?

[slate blaze]

Briars and cataclysmic were never best dps for oryx

[left hearth]

whisper of the worm is consistent but still hunt is probably better if u have a good rotation

[slate blaze]

Whisper>. Still hunt for oryx

Especially with the seasonal mods

[loud jasper]

okay that’s good I have that crafted
oh and best smg for pve? Im getting bored of my bug-out bag

[static zinc]

Whisper is better for raw headshot spam for stuff like the aforementioned oryx or golgy

[static zinc]

Rocket Sidearm

Full stop, better than any primary except for a few exotic ones

[slate blaze]

Adclear primarys are dead

[left hearth]

its probably bug out bag or subjunctive

[static zinc]

Massive damage, projectile is entirely manageable, practically infinite ammo, good range, have decent perks

[loud jasper]

wait what
then what does one ad clear with with limited ammo

[loud jasper]

which sidearm should i look for?

[left hearth]

every class has almost 100% uptime ability based ad clear

and special finishers exist

[static zinc]

If you aren’t clearing all the adds with a rocket sidearm or wave frame in conjunction with your abilities, you’re probably running a bad build imho

[left hearth]

any of them

[slate blaze]

Rocket sidearms or ergo

[left hearth]

arc conductor ergo can have my kids type shi

[loud jasper]

whats ergo

[static zinc]

Indebted for general usage, The Call if you need your energy slot for something like Div or whatever, and if you want heal clip or ember of empyrean extensions the seasonal one is good for that

[left hearth]

ergo sum its a special ammo sword from pale heart

[slate blaze]

💀

[left hearth]

what else could it possible be bro smgs are dog

[slate blaze]

Why are u using div

[loud jasper]

in their defense, i asked smgs...

[slate blaze]

Ohhh

Yeah don't use energy primarys

Too many good options

[loud jasper]

ooo i have that i completely forgot
okay wait so what build should i use if im on warlock? grenade/fragments etc.

i heard song of flame has insane dps?

[slate blaze]

Ehh

[left hearth]

it does not

[static zinc]

Idfk it’s my textbook example of a utility weapon in the energy slot

[slate blaze]

Nova bomb is the play with stareaters

[left hearth]

look up getaway artist prismatic warlock build on yt and copy that

[static zinc]

I guess a better example would be Wolfpack ergo or something

[loud jasper]

okay
and how can i use star eaters on warlock

[left hearth]

exotic class item

[static zinc]

Nova Bomb cope, run Needlestorm instead

[static zinc]

Exotic Class Item

[slate blaze]

Needlestorm is bad

[left hearth]

it does worse damage tho

[static zinc]

Doesn’t block rockets and shots though

[loud jasper]

what
where do i get this so called exotic class item

[slate blaze]

It also doesn't hit most bosses

[static zinc]

Also it gives woven mail on orb rather than dogarse overshield

[left hearth]

how bad are u at throwing nova bombs

[static zinc]

You clearly haven’t used slova on oryx, sanctified mind, witness

[slate blaze]

Might as well just not play warlock

[slate blaze]

Aim at hand leg forhead

Ur just not aiming ur nova well

[left hearth]

im not running garden in 2024 and i hit it on witness every time

just a skill issue dawg

[loud jasper]

1. which nova, lingering one or babies one
2. where get exotic class item

[static zinc]

Babies

Class item is from Dual Destiny in pale heart

[left hearth]

look up on youtube

[slate blaze]

Also needlestorm hardly hits witness oryx salvations boss

[slate blaze]

It needs to be on prismatic

[slate blaze]

Thats just simply bad advice

[left hearth]

for class item?

[slate blaze]

Oh

That was for question 2

[left hearth]

yes

[slate blaze]

Nvm yeah for class items youtube

[loud jasper]

right good point
ill search it up on youtube, im just begging it doesnt take too long

[left hearth]

nova just use cataclysm

[loud jasper]

thank you guys so much for the help, means a lot !!

[slate blaze]

You only have one nova choice because prismatic

[slate blaze]

You might want to go back to well

[loud jasper]

okay wait im so so so sorry one more question 😭
how do you get the prismatic fragments?

[slate blaze]

Thats another youtube question

[loud jasper]

oh god
okay thanks for the (hopefully) last time

[snow zephyr]

Ill omen is the best rn i dont think its sommum

[slate blaze]

💀