Callout is stc so dissection is ttccss, people in ascendant realm get doubled up and instead of distributing to both players they give 2 shapes to the callout (ex s gives his shapes to c guy)
#Can someone tell me why this didnt work for master verity challenge:
glacial bridge
uncut moss
all you do with challenge is add an extra step
so you double up, hand out both shapes to each person, then just say where you need each shape inside
glacial bridge
so you double up, hand out both shapes to each person, then just say where you n...
why did we wipe with my strategy
glacial bridge
because 1 guy handed both of his shapes to the same guy
thats what hes meant to do
uncut moss
no
calm relic
Callout is stc so dissection is ttccss, people in ascendant realm get doubled up...
Every shape needs to be passed once before it can be used in a key.
Could be that outside maybe messed up.
waxen nexus
thats what hes meant to do
the reason you need to double is because each symbol needs to be passed once before it can be used as a key
if the square dude happens to have no squares you could have both other people send him a square each and it would work
but if he already had one it would need to be sent out before being used the easier strat is to just double up like normal then double send to whoever needs the 2 shapes you have
glacial bridge
Could be that outside maybe messed up.
nope that didn't happen
glacial bridge
if the square dude happens to have no squares you could have both other people s...
what do you mean by square dude
every shape SHOULD be passed once, because everyone is doubling up and no one is keeping their shape
uncut moss
yup you're cooked
zinc nexus
Its not every shape needs to be passed once.
You must be sent both shapes that you do not have. If you are square you must be sent both a circle and a triangle or else you can not leave. That is the cleansing shadows
snow cedar
calm relic
You must be sent both shapes that you do not have. If you are square you must be...
As long as nobody ends up with a shape that their statue was holding, and the shapes they do have have been passed, it works as a key. Dissection just needs to also match.
zinc nexus
Not what im talking about. Theres another mechanic besides just having the right symbols for the key and dissection
And its not every shape needs to be passed once
waxen nexus
You must be sent both shapes that you do not have. If you are square you must be...
Not true since challenge goes against this
you leave with 2 of the same for challenge
zinc nexus
Brother listen to the words im saying. I known what challenge is. You dont have to use the two symbols for the key you make. You must cleanse shadows to be able to leave at all however.
To do that. You must be sent both symbols that you dont have(the two that aren't what your guardians statue is holding) at any point in the sequence before leaving
I known this 100% as a fact, this is how the encounter works. This is why when everyone creates a post in raid secrets of heres how to do verity in only 2 swaps
And they have no idea what they are talking about and it fails 30% of the time and they wonder why
tawny moss
And they have no idea what they are talking about and it fails 30% of the time a...
Your talking about cleansing shadows right? I think I get what you're saying.
You need to cleanse the other two statues that aren't you by receiving those shapes at least once.
zinc nexus
Yes, its the mechanic that 90% of the player base doesn't understand
tawny moss
Then you can make whatever you want for the key as long as dissection matches and your shape isn't part of the key
zinc nexus
Its also the reason why it took 10hrs on contest. Theres is no feedback/communication the game gives for this mechanic. If the puzzle was fair it wouldnt have taken 10hrs to clear on day 1
tawny moss
Yeah, tbh I heard part of TFS delay was actually making Verity work properly, glad it's not as buggy as it could have been
zinc nexus
Yeah glad we only have one soft lock in it. Better then 3rd encounters 2
Ridiculous however we have heard nothing from bungie about all the softlocks however
tawny moss
Sometimes I'll have the box just not spawn despite doing everything right and all the Totems are closed on 1st and 3rd
zinc nexus
The two soft locks in 3rd are, everyone dunks at the same time. And on the last phase someone with triangle buff can kill the hand. This softlocks and box doesnt spawn
tawny moss
The hand is killable on third? That is so stupid. Now that I think about it, I don't think I saw the hand at all the times we had no box, thanks for the info
zinc nexus
Yeah..., the hand leaving animation is what triggers box spawn. And you can just kill it with triangle buff. Its very silly
midnight flicker
Sometimes I'll have the box just not spawn despite doing everything right and al...
1st means there is still a hydra in maze or someones still in another room
waxen nexus
To do that. You must be sent both symbols that you dont have(the two that aren't...
if this is true surely fast send for 4th would just not work since that involves you only sending your two start symbols out which include one your statue# is holding meaning your missing one needed to send by this logic?
Idk not calling you wrong here but idk how fast send is even posible if thats the case
zinc nexus
Its not that you must send both shapes, its you must receive both shapes. Fast send is complicated and you kind of have to go case by case to understand how it works.
For everyone to be sent both shapes you have to send both of your starting shapes, its just how it works out in the end
However you can send out both of your shapes and create the right keys and it can not let you out. This happens 1/3rd of the time if you dont known the right order to send in
If you are interested, check out aegis speedrun strat preview at 49 minutes and if you map it out you see that each player is sent both symbols that aren't their statues shape
This issue of cleanings shadows is the reason why you cant do fast send for challenge mode. It only works like 2/3rds of the time