are void warlock builds even worth using?

[barren cradle]

.

[brisk ferry]

For some situations void warlock is useful

Debuff extension and some lowmans, solos

[royal gull]

yes

void warlock is peak and solar warlock is stupid and lame

you will use contraverse hold like a normal person

[fleet ermine]

Briarbinds

Better

[royal gull]

no

contraverse better and based

[fleet ermine]

Nuh uh, Chaos Accelerant a cope aspect, having to charge is cringe.

Child + Feed the Void is beloved

[fair coral]

i hate these ngl

i prefer conterverse all the way

[fleet ermine]

Nah I love picking up children and throwing them

And then having multiple at once.

[fair coral]

having to go grab it in high end content is not great

but also just needing to grab it means its more work

contra does the same thing for less effort

[brazen steeple]

Give in to the contraverse hold side.

Void may become meta when final shape drops

[royal gull]

probably will

[royal gull]

cringe that you have to pick up and grab your void souls 🥱

[fleet ermine]

Based 0.5 second E hold vs virgin 2 second Q hold for mid nade.

[zinc herald]

does the melee only knock enemies back? I haven’t used voidlock in a long time

[fleet ermine]

Meh, grabbing it is super manageable

And you can often just get another rift back before that Child’s duration is over anyways

Child also gives freakishly short Grenade Cooldowns as well, essentially doing the same thing as Contraverse.

[fleet ermine]

Yeah, that’s all. It also provides a single instance of volatile, which is completely useless.

[royal gull]

who tf has their grenade button as Q

you're a very weird person

[fleet ermine]

That’s the default bro

I’m just using the default keybinds lol

[royal gull]

normal people make their grenade button G

[fair coral]

but if thats the case why run something taht does the same thing that needs more steps

[fleet ermine]

Facts I should try that

[fair coral]

whats yours?

[royal gull]

G?

cause grenade starts with the letter G

[fleet ermine]

It doesn’t tho? It’s just a rift cast vs holding the button

The only difference is that Briarbinds buff Child too

Not just your grenade

And give massive AoE blanked damage AND weaken

Contraverses are good too, and are more simple to use, but briarbinds have a much higher ceiling.

[fair coral]

rift cast and grabbing the child back again

[shadow gulch]

based idea but still bad (I'm with you on the contraverse > briar binds side tho)

[fair coral]

i would rather just throw more nades than have to go grab it

[shadow gulch]

G is awful

[fair coral]

whats your super and class to?

[shadow gulch]

Go ahead and walk forwards to the right while charging ur nade

[fair coral]

I am a Q grenade enjoyer

[shadow gulch]

same

[fleet ermine]

Grabbing the child isn’t required at all, since Briarbinds makes defeating targets the child is leaching grant Rift energy, so you can generate a second child before even needing to thing about the other child.

[royal gull]

more comfortable

[fleet ermine]

You literally can, Briarbinds give similar grenade cooldowns to conteaverse

[shadow gulch]

child of the lame "gods"

[royal gull]

plus every other game used G for grenade

[fair coral]

vortex nade debuff > child imo

[royal gull]

contraverse with extra steps and watered down

[fleet ermine]

ITS THE SAME THING 😭😭😭😭😭😭

[solar reef]

i like both personally

[fleet ermine]

Tell me one way it’s watered down?

[shadow gulch]

child's is just too weak in endgame and overkill in casual/dungeon difficulty

[fleet ermine]

You get the same damage and duration of Vortex nade, but also get a child on steroids

[fair coral]

child is far more annoying to manage than just vortex spam and you do not even need to use rift for it

[fleet ermine]

I disagree, child weaken allows for easier add control in GMs, and once it ramps up damage, it can kill red bars in like 4 ticks.

[fair coral]

if you need it to ramp up to kill red bars

[fleet ermine]

Again, all you have to do to “manage” the child is cast a rift. Picking the child up is by no means a required part of the loop.

[fair coral]

that proves our point

[fleet ermine]

Red bars in GMs bro.

And ur gonna be shooting at them too

[fair coral]

that die in 0.5 seconds of a reg nade

[fleet ermine]

THROW A GRENADE TOO

BRIARBINDS LETS YOU SPAM NADES TOO

[shadow gulch]

but anyways it's not that deep. let the man use his children and we'll enjoy our grenades. it honestly doesn't matter

[fleet ermine]

Yeah I’m done now

[fair coral]

also to run child you lose over charged nades which is cringe

[fleet ermine]

Charged nades are not much better than normal ones

It’s why chaos accelerant is widely considered mid when compared to touch of flame, winter, and thunder

[fair coral]

better is better 😮

[fleet ermine]

LIKE BRIARBINDS CHILD THANKS FOR AGGREEING

[shadow gulch]

ok capslock captain

[fleet ermine]

Anyways I’m done arguing my children are good and your nades are also good.

[fleet ermine]

Thanks lowercase king

[royal gull]

this guy loves children

[sharp kiln]

Mouse button is for normal people. Take your spelling based old school keybinds outta here 😂

[sharp kiln]

Yes, there is two or three that are decent.

Contraverse and briarbinds are the main two. There is another that uses void traces that can be super good...

But you're usually better off using solar or something in those circumstances.

[zinc herald]

That’s the worst key to make it

[royal gull]

no its not lol????

[fleet ermine]

It literally is, what finger are you reaching all the way to G with 💀

[royal gull]

index finger

lol?

[fleet ermine]

Ur index finger is occupied on wasd 💀

are you a leftie perchance?

[zinc herald]

Just say you have an 8 inch finger

[solar reef]

I use G for finisher personally

[spring peak]

All overcharged nade does is increase the radius and uptime
It doesnt actually increase damage

[fair coral]

Ye but more conterverse hits and ads hit so still nice

[spring peak]

Chaos accelerant needs contraverse to be worth running imo, because of the massively increased nade regen. Whereas child is already good on its own and doesnt require briarbinds to buff it further

Its just that contraverse turns it into a viable aspect

Also theres the option of running both child and chaos accelerant, but then you miss out on buffed devour

[shadow gulch]

if ur running contraverse with chaos acc, then devour is mandatory to get your grenade back fully with kills

child and chaos are bad together, they don't synergize as well

contraverse without anything will only get you about 80% of your nade

[spring peak]

Never said it was good, just that it was an option

Imo feed the void is almost mandatory for any void lock build

Cause of the grenade regen