just wanted to start another argument about decon cascade sticky

[midnight hedge]

Chicken SI-2 just put out some testing, with no super, surges, well and radient a cascade decon sticky hit 2.8

The only dps test I could find on his page was with supers, star eater scale 4x arcstaff with bns envious izzi swaps he hit 2.9m

[austere nebula]

cascade decon is better if you have a long enough phase to pop everything which is legit no raid boss in the game and has a lower dps than bait

[midnight hedge]

Against avarokk^

[austere nebula]

making it higher total less dps which is the more important of the 2 for all raid encounters argument stopped

[midnight hedge]

Go ahead and check for yourself- a 4x star eater scales super and only being 100k more is pitiful

[austere nebula]

that ogre has a stupid long dps time

[midnight hedge]

So wrong boss nice try

[midnight hedge]

Wrong again, it has equal or higher dps. Literally watch the dps tests

[austere nebula]

decon will lose to bns in all raid fights

[midnight hedge]

Literally wrong again. I've dps tested with 6/5 edges and beat every single one of them. There's dps tests I'm telling you to go look at

[austere nebula]

yes if you get everything out. most raid bosses do not have a long enough dmg phase

[midnight hedge]

"Ohhhh guns only good in encounters you can't dump all your ammo"
Give me 5 encounters you can't dump all your ammo with a simple reload and cascade

Atrax doesn't count

[austere nebula]

4 reloads and mag dumping 30 shots while having to swap every mag to proke cascade

[midnight hedge]

And even if I don't dump all my ammo my dps is still higher bc I have a practical mag of 11 and cascade sumps

[austere nebula]

takes a while

[midnight hedge]

Lemme tell you somthing lemme tell you somthing

There's auto reload capabilities

Strand, dodge, stasis

[midnight hedge]

44 shots all cascaded with no reloads dont

2 sniper > 11 shots > dodge > celestial gg> 2 sniper > 11 shots > 2 sniper > dodge melee > 11 shots > 2 sniper > 11 shots

[austere nebula]

that roll gets utterly destroyed in terms of dps 😭

[midnight hedge]

Dawg

No way you are saying that

Dps I destroy, I can shoot off 22 shots by the time you reload from your first 6

[limpid snow]

What do you use to proc cascade because some bosses move to much to hit with a sniper

[main shoal]

THIS ^ (also even if we ever have the chance to shoot literally all these GL shots, you're better off whisper, LFRs or rockets in general)

whisper is insanely ammo efficient (oryx is the best example)

[main shoal]

your roll has potential but isn't nearly as good as you make it out to be. burst damage? Parasite/Rockets. Long damage? whisper or LFRs

[midnight hedge]

Then I run envi bns. It has its place, just like decon has its place. Proccing 17 bns shots = 22 normal shots. That's 2 cascaded mags with a dodge in between

[midnight hedge]

I run out of ammo faster than the emvi bns izzi swappers ngl

[main shoal]

it's total damage is not the best. it's dps is nowhere near the best and it's burst is also pretty mid because envious cascade is simply better

[midnight hedge]

Wtvr u say, would argue more but I got to work

[main shoal]

yeah ur running out of ammo, great 💀

[midnight hedge]

The argument against it is it has double tdo than normal bns edging, but ur claiming opposite. Make up ur mind

[midnight hedge]

Look up chicken si-2 dps checks. Sticky decon cascade runs out faster dude

[limpid snow]

What if you use primary to proc cascade like let’s say final warning since it’s easy to get cirts would it be worth it

[austere nebula]

takes more shots thats why people use a sniper

[main shoal]

Yeah sticky decon cascade is worse. you don't wanna be running out of ammo entirely what????

there's no use if your heavy is empty pretty much instantly when you still have 16 out of 20 izi shots

it's alot more healthy for a realistic damage rotation to use everything evenly and heavy only when it's buffed by perks like cascade or bns

your cascade gl dumping only really has its use on planets

[midnight hedge]

44 shots. Yea running out is good💀

[main shoal]

cascade bns is still better because of the damage you can cramp in with izi and another sniper

Also argue in general chat, not in the help forum. ur literally so delusional trying to convince like 3 people that your roll is better than whatever the meta is

[austere nebula]

oh he told me he trusts a random youtuber over Aegises tests 😭

[limpid snow]

Final warning is pretty quick though

[austere nebula]

thats like blasphemy

[main shoal]

yeah ive checked some of his sources

not too sure what I think of this chicken dude

[austere nebula]

better than Aegis wym

its the most trust me bro thing i have heard in a while

[main shoal]

what

yeah that's what I'm saying, I trust aegis more than chicken

Decon cascade is just never gonna find a use case over cascade bns

deconstruct is like bipod for gls

it's always either envious bns or cascade bns

[midnight hedge]

Go ahead, there's dps testing on it in an actual scenario. Aegis has the new pre order fusion at a total of 8 mil tdo. There's some issues

[main shoal]

what are you yapping bro, what does tessalation have to do with this now

Ur literally so delusional trying to prove your point to.... who exactly?

[midnight hedge]

Shows there might be some inconsistencies

[main shoal]

8million damage where? under what circumstances? on which boss? in what time frame?

[midnight hedge]

Given the entire community didn't know a thing about decon a month ago and it's mega buggy I'd say theoretical math isn't the best

[main shoal]

Ur literally just talking out of your a## like what

yeah but the 2 times it performs better in ingame testing (which you literally call inconsistent) is reason enough to start this bs?

make it make sense dude

[ripe spoke]

what are we yapping about?

bait and switch is better than whatever roll you are gassing up

end of argument

[main shoal]

thank you

[main shoal]

.

[midnight hedge]

@main shoal yall see aegis most recent video? Man literally talks about how he miscalculated over 2 mil missing tdo on retrofit escapade. Very possible for him to make mistakes

Man's not jesus

[main shoal]

Dude give up on it. Deconstruct is bugged and is getting shiddon. Just leave it be man..

[austere nebula]

decon is dead now

idk whats better cascade bait or envi bait i am pretty sure its envi but the dmg difference is minimal

[main shoal]

tell that the dude defending the perk with his entire life, not me

[midnight hedge]

Tf? Decon can't roll with bait

[austere nebula]

cascade*

[midnight hedge]

It's cascade bns if you have a reload, aegis covered this but it DOMIATES compared to envi bns

[austere nebula]

where did he cover this i have not seen anything on it

[midnight hedge]

Most recent vid

4 hours ago

[austere nebula]

got a timestamp i cant see him talk about rolls or anything just certain rotations

[midnight hedge]

I ain't yo servant. Literally just watch the video, it's like a 10 second clip before he talks about speedruns

[austere nebula]

i am not seen him talk about roles once

[austere nebula]

he does not talk about cascade once and the only rotation that he has on his sheet that beats envi is izi nessa which i doubt is cascade

but idk wont have a answer till he has finished overhauling it i guess

[midnight hedge]

^11:27 everyone, went into dms but this genius is so smart I guess he couldn't figure it out

[main shoal]

please for the love of god

accept defeat and move on

it's irrelevant now

how do the mods allow this post to stay up for as long as it does anyways

[midnight hedge]

Nah just arguing with people who die on the hill that he didn't say cascade bns is good after I time stamped it

[austere nebula]

well your right I must have missed that bit cascade bait is the better option

you also proved your last point about decon to be wrong so you half win ;D

[austere nebula]

i doubt they filter this

time to regrind a edge rip me

[midnight hedge]

I know using your listening ears is difficult but if a xanax addict has more cognitive function then you it's time to consider the possibility of being cooked💀

[austere nebula]

its not that deep my guy your gonna shorten your life with this much stress. I admit bait cascade is the better option and hope you can admit your decon was copium 😄

[midnight hedge]

I ain't stressed did you see my previous message?

[ripe spoke]

🤫 🧏‍♂️

[midnight hedge]

8 mil in one -15 pantheon phase without matching surges is pretty copium, especially when the cold comfort surge matches hit half that

Golgy^

[ripe spoke]

kinda bad dps icl

for golg

[midnight hedge]

Yea 8 mil 1 phase -15 light is terrible

[visual drum]

it sucks ur coping and its getting patched in 2 weeks anyway so no one cares

[midnight hedge]

Patched bc it was too good*

[austere nebula]

Bruh

[ripe spoke]

i can do more with my favorite exotic arms

at -20

[midnight hedge]

Want a cookie?

[maiden flicker]

Some of Chicken's dps rotations are used in the recent aegis video. Impetus hunter, and apotheosis strand are also chicken rotations. Aegis even acknowledges him in the video 🤷🏻

[main shoal]

its ok bro this is almost 2 weeks old

[midnight hedge]

Yea but aegis and his 2 mil discrepancies are super accurate right?

[maiden flicker]

Yes, health bar chunking exists because the game is laggy 🤷🏻

[midnight hedge]

still too innacurate to have the whole d2 community gargling his nuts

[maiden flicker]

I mean, true. But you're on the Chicken hype train so 🤷🏻

[midnight hedge]

cause bro shows ingame examples instead of simulated examples. i get decon sucks now, i was the only one saying its good now ill admit its useless

[oak vector]

alright everyone go home the meat rider admitted