im a bit out of the loop. whats the best archetypes for shotties in pvp? aggressive? lightweight?
#best shotgun archetype and perks for pvp?
deep flax
also is full choke still a must? or do people opt for barrel shroud for agg frames?
how does smoothbore fare these days? and is range still king for shotties or should i opt for max handling over range?
twilit fiber
aggressive or precision
slugs are better than both if you can aim
but also just use conditional lol
I'm the wrong guy to ask about full choke but I don't think it makes that much difference
but then again 99% of the time I'm using either conditional finality or a slug these days
deep flax
but also just use conditional lol
lmao ive yet to use mine yet. but i want to have some options
deep flax
slugs are better than both if you can aim
i cant unfortunately xd
twilit fiber
I'm a big chaperone and gunnora's enjoyer
deep flax
aggressive or precision
does range matter for them? or is it all handling
chaperone is really scary... but im not him
unfortunately... lol
twilit fiber
range matters a lot however not as much as some think
deep flax
lmao?
twilit fiber
For example if you have slideshot opening shot that's already 50 range from perks
In that case put a bit into handling
deep flax
i think the last kill range testing video was aztecross' many months ago and it seemed like no matter how much range you have all legendary (and most exotic) shotgun 1 tap kill ranges are capped
at like 11m? 13m? idk
is that still the case?
twilit fiber
wouldn't surprise me
that might be why conditional having 30 range feels like a lie
I don't really know enough to go into details I just vaguely know the meta
deep flax
yea i think like most shotties were 9-13m or smth..
and range would affect the kill range within those few meters, sowith full choke or slideshot/opening shot youd opt for handling or smth like that...
wanted to confirm if that was still the case
im also curious about smoothbore though. is that still bad? or is it free range after the intrinsic pellet spread change
twilit fiber
I have a personal grudge against smoothbore for noob trapping me when I started
Unless it becomes so much better that not using it is throwing I refuse
twilit fiber
opening shot 100%
the benefits from opening shot and just hipfiring far outweigh the benefits of full choke with ads imo as for mag perk there is a valid argument for assault mag
idk which is better
deep flax
ok
rich dove
does mag perk matter? is it always acc rounds lol
yeah pretty much always accurized unless you go above 100 range with openingshot on some occasions with matador for exmaple
deep flax
conditional and matador
ugh matador is a pita to farm
deep flax
yeah pretty much always accurized unless you go above 100 range with openingshot...
gotcha. is smoothbore worth it/does it nerf the gun via pellet spread? and is fullchoke a required perk still?
rich dove
id go smallbore or barrel shroud. dont use spread-affecting barrels
deep flax
id go smallbore or barrel shroud. dont use spread-affecting barrels
oh ok. whys that? even full choke isnt worth?
rich dove
yeah because the pattern is curated for each shotgun frame and barely changes
at least not positively
deep flax
at least not positively
hmm ok. so either full choke barely changes anything, the spread becomes wonky, or if the spread is too tight theres more margin for missing the target or something like that?
so its better to safely go for more flat stats like range and/or handling?