what exotics are a must right meow?

[zinc minnow]

i havent really played since DSC now sure what to catch up on im warlock main

[molten quail]

pvp or pve? weapons or armor?

what character?

[zinc minnow]

warlock an pve

[molten quail]

Sunbracers, Cenotaph mask, Fallen Sunstar, aeons souls, lunafaction boots, Dawn chorus, rain of fire

haven't felt the need to touch any other exotic for years

[zinc minnow]

im missing ceno, fallen, rain

are they hard to get?

also what about guns for end game stuff

if you dont mind answering that too

[haughty valve]

aeons have been pretty much negated by ceno and vesper is better for arclock

you need contraverse for void

[haughty valve]

datto has a video of the best guns in the game

there are a few better options now but not that many

it's still pretty relevant imo

[cunning blade]

You can double dip into the heavy generation with ceno and aeons so you’re wrong

[molten quail]

Vesper is a completely different playstyle, and yeah ceno > aeons when used separately

[dim ridge]

ceno is more ease of use, but if the person with aeons finishes the marked target from cenos, 2X heavy ammo drops!

[molten quail]

yeah ik

that's why I added the word separately

[molten quail]

no, there's discord servers notifying you for vex incursions which pretty much guarantee an exotic you don't already have. outside of that you have legend/master lost sectors

[zinc minnow]

discord server for vex?

[molten quail]

yeah

"when is a vex incursion happening" Google that and you'll get a discord server

it will ping everyone in the server that signed up for these incursions

[sand cove]

Necrotic grips also has its uses especially with strand

[magic lintel]

don’t listen to this guy

all you need is ceno and rof

tsteps and lunas

[molten quail]

tsteps 💀

Go equip your Worldline and dash tf outta this help forum

[polar owl]

dont forget phoenix protocol

[umbral dragon]

Briarbinds are pretty meta for voidlock

[zinc minnow]

for pve?

[cunning blade]

yes

[still latch]

Bro is still using worldline for movement 🤣

[magic lintel]

your 100% a worse player than i have ever been

[molten quail]

says the one living in 2018 with tsteps???

[still latch]

tsteps is meta on anything that isn't a boss in an average lfg tbh. Heck, even in speedrunning and low-mans they are a high priority for non-boss encounters 🤣

[molten quail]

they're unnecessary for anything outside of speedruns or pvp

you're fast enough with wellskate/icarus dashing

addclear is sunbracers, dps is rain of fire

[still latch]

Unecessary, sure. Sunbracers is unnecessary when i can insta clear a room of red bars with a 1-2 shots of a weapon (Trinity ghoul, sunshot etc) without proccing a melee and then spamming 5 grenades.

[molten quail]

you're comparing something completely different. guns vs an exotic armor piece...

I at least compared something realistic like wellskating with or without transversives

[still latch]

It is a comparison in role. Tsteps is neutral.
Sunbracers is purely add clear. Trinity ghoul and sunshot fill the same role, but in a weapon. Easier to proc, faster to use, but less overall damage.

[sand cove]

It's not quite the same but the comparison makes sense

Sunbracers give you more survivability than sunshot/trinity ghoul and also don't use an exotic weapon slot (armour is easier to hotswap for DPS than weapons), transversive steps get you from A to B quicker

The latter may not be important to most players but the comparison is completely valid

[mint mural]

mew meow

[amber sandal]

you're*
dont disrepect pookie like that

[chrome lance]

swarmers if you do strand

you get them free from legend lightfall

[magic lintel]

why should your exotic slot be used for add clear when there are weapons like forby and trinity?

tsteps are the 2nd best warlock exotic

under rof

[sand cove]

because there's not much better to have equipped when not DPSing in a boss encounter unless speedrunning

And if you care that much about being optimal then you're loadout swapping anyway so there's literally no downside

[chrome lance]

sunbracers fun factor

[haughty valve]

are u dumb

have you played warlock a day in your life or do you just not play anything besides strikes

[still latch]

Sigh. 1600 raids are the same level as strikes ironically (which is mainly what I've been talking about).

Bros really mad because I said tsteps has a better neutral than sunbracers

With that said, what content are we going for sunbracers over any other exotic armour? Add clear//boss encounters? Sure. But in a 1600 kings fall I don't need it cause everything dies in like 2 shots besides a boss 🤷🏻

[fluid sparrow]

Only place where i would consider sunbracers right now is pantheon or master raids

And then only really for ad dense encounters like planets, golg, oryx etc

Also in that level content you kind of need touch of flame for sunbracers to be worth running, at which point you have to either give up heat rises (survivability) or icarus dash (movement/damage if swapping to rof)

[still latch]

Basically my thoughts exactly 🤷

Sunbracers is perfect for pantheon, but I don't need it in anything below 1810. It is worth having of course, but I can easily run any raid in the game on normal without using them and have no issues.

[sand cove]

nice to have in low mans too

I'm sure you could just use trinity ghoul in anything that isn't a solo lowman and be fine but the sunbracers build preventing you from dying is good

[sand cove]

destiny 2 lfg help chat try not to resort to personal attacks when someone disagrees challenge (impossible)

[still latch]

Absolutely. I just don't think a returning player is jumping into lowmans in the next few weeks...

[sand cove]

eh you never know. Just trying to state times where it's worth having a build for

[haughty valve]

im sure are u dumb was a very harmful response.

[haughty valve]

people saying anything about needing anything is always dumb because you never need anything

and then you guys sound like total geeks saying erm you dont need sunbracers you can just run tsteps

[still latch]

The question is about what exotics to get. Someone said "don't get tsteps" I said "tsteps is good in many scenarios where you don't need something else.".

Then you decide to come in with an ego thinking you're the overlord of Destiny weapons and armour and such without even reading context.

[haughty valve]

tsteps is not a good neutral exotic

like there will always be a better exotic you can run

unless you're doing high level speedrunning

[cunning blade]

keep coping bud

[still latch]

🤷🏻

[haughty valve]

how is that cope

[cunning blade]

name a better neutral exotic

[fluid sparrow]

Only one i would put at or near the same level as tsteps for neutral is cenotaph

[haughty valve]

karnsteins

[paper scarab]

for pve this is just misleading 😭

for pvp its top 1

[paper scarab]

not really neutral since u have to base ur loadout around it

[fluid sparrow]

all you have to do is put on a trace rifle, thats not enough to warrant a full change in loadout

[paper scarab]

felwinter's helm is a p good neutral that ppl dont use

and necrotics r good too

[paper scarab]

a lot of newer and returning players arent comfortable with double special tbh

and running a trace with a primary is kinda weird

[fluid sparrow]

who says double special is required

[fluid sparrow]

sunshot

[paper scarab]

i get that, but im pretty sure that by neutral they mean you can run any loadout with them

cenos are amazing dont get me wrong

just dont think they fit that category like tsteps, necros and felwinter's helm do

or even aeons where its jus a finish not tied to any subclass/weapon

[fluid sparrow]

so

you would put felwinters into the neutral category

but not aeons?

[paper scarab]

both are neutral

[fluid sparrow]

ah ok i misunderstood

[paper scarab]

i do agree with u that its not hard to work with ceno tho

[fluid sparrow]

idk i personally dont think putting on a trace is that big a deal, especially since ceno gives you special ammo

[paper scarab]

nah ur right its really easy to use, but i think they just meant something that doesnt influence ur loadout at all

lets say u wanted to run a heritage to burst down majors in raids for example

all of the other exotics would still work no matter what yk

but yeah ceno's are so meta that not using them on a team in endgame is kinda throwing

[loud garnet]

Its just a word feel meaning thing, when i think of neutral game exotics i dont think of stuff like lunafaction boots, cenotaph, aeons etc. I think of those as support options