Edge Transit God Role?

[iron kettle]

Hey guys, just wondering everyone's opinions on the new gl, and it's supposed god rolls...

[lusty flint]

Quick Launch, Spike grenades, Envious assasin, bait and switch, handling or velocity mw

[mental ferry]

Also try out Sticky nade, Cascade and deconstruct, heard people say its interesting

[ocean thistle]

Doesn’t mean that’s any good tho

[lusty flint]

what

[wooden kiln]

my sticky decon cascade outdamages every envi cascade bns roll ive tested against. your measly bns buff doesnt even compare to me shooting off 44 (nearly double your total reserves) in the same amount of time

[iron kettle]

Tried out that role on golgy for Pantheon, except I didn't have spike grenades (can't recall if I had quick launch or not).

[lusty flint]

the launch doesnt matter tooooo much. its nice but not necessary

[iron kettle]

However lfg is miserable and after 3 deaths I just went to work. It felt good for burst dps though, I was on gaze and ended up on 5.9M (also my lfg titan somehow ended with 800k and he was on dps)

Also I tried the Fireteam Finder, that's what I meant by lfg, and well let's just say I'm never using it again.

[potent sand]

What’s the reasoning behind that

[wooden kiln]

44 shots > 24 with a 30% increase. simple reload abilities, found on stasis, hunter, warlock, strand allow me to dump 11 shots just as fast as you with how easily cascade is to proc

[uneven vapor]

Did bruh just say deconstruct better than envious/ cascade BnS roll?

Someone have Aegis update his spreadsheet ASAP💀

[wooden kiln]

im down to prove it lmao, had 3 other envi bns casc and outdamage every time. think about it. a 30% buff doesnt compare to 44 shots pookie

[uneven vapor]

In how many business days are we talking about ? I’m referring to the time to shoot all 44 rounds and proc deconstruct which has an internal cooldown

Because if you’re not accounting for time I’ll introduce you to my friend retrofit escapade . He can say hi to your edge

[wooden kiln]

cascades a think pookie

[uneven vapor]

Out of arguments, are we ?

[wooden kiln]

cascade proccing off 2 shots + a reload perk = i can shoot off 11 shots in 1 mag faster than you can shoot off your 6 mag shots pookie

[lusty flint]

nah its legit good. you activate cascade and blow your load. deconstruct refunds bullets and when youre out you dodge/dash/reload

and proc cascade again

its alot more total dmg and almost similar dps on a short window

[uneven vapor]

Total damage much better options . In short windows it’s not even close . Not even .. don’t take my word just watch Aegis

[lusty flint]

yeah for golgoroth its optimal rn tho

LFRs are trash to hit, whisper requires div and the GL is easily best choice then

it's few situations but it's not trash, it actually works

I was doubtful in the beginning aswell

[uneven vapor]

My problem was him saying this better that envious /cascade BnS

[wooden kiln]

short window i ALWAYS outdps envi casc bns people. much faster to proc casc than bns, ive already dumped 11 shots by the time my other edgers are starting

[uneven vapor]

If your definition of a short window is 2.5 seconds (cascade buff duration) I have news for you . Not every encounter in the game works like Atraks

[wooden kiln]

11 shots in 2.5 seconds followed by a dodge and 11 more shots is pretty potenet

[uneven vapor]

And since you’re talking about how fast you can shoot 11 rounds and no need to proc BnS then maybe consider something like frenzy instead of deconstruct that will be irrelevant for as you called it “short window “

[wooden kiln]

are you slow

the whole point of decon is to allow for 6 shots to turn into 11

i cant even understand what this argument is trying to make lol

[uneven vapor]

The whole point of the weapons specific roll is unless you’re paralysed and can’t use izy apex with a reload tech to use something braindead like 0 skill players like you do because their brain can’t keep up fast enough

[wooden kiln]

except

i outdamage those using izy apex.... so theres multiple points, its easy + it does the most damage. id say that pretty worth it pumpkin

before i used this i used izy apex swaps....... its not a matter of skill i can do any damage rotation, its that doing this as long as you have one form of auto reload, you have the highest total damage

mixed with highest dps

[lusty flint]

it might have more total damage than izi rocket swaps but it's not gonna outdmaage Catalysmic, theres just no way

total damage is too high on LFRs, even with the GL reserves buff

[wooden kiln]

44 shots most def will

[lusty flint]

count it up

calculate it

[wooden kiln]

cata is only good in like 1 encounter anyways lmao, if you want total go for whisper

[lusty flint]

Also this isn't a valid argument as it's user based and very skill dependant

[wooden kiln]

not rlly when its consisent across 10 different cases

[lusty flint]

I'm saying apex izi

it's really good. but it's definetly not meta otherwise alot more ppl would report so and it'd be all over YouTube

[spark stream]

Deconstruct has higher total dmg than bns on edge transit but it falls off horribly in dps

Its 4m decon to bns 2.7m but dps is like 245k vs 319k

[wooden kiln]

Nice logical fallacy

[wooden kiln]

Mhm...... where u getting this? Seems like your 30% damage increase is being added to bns but cascades dps increase isn't being added to decon roll

[spark stream]

Aegis spreadsheet

[wooden kiln]

That's about a 25-30% dps increase. From bns. Not factoring in cascade or being able to dump 11 rather than 6

[spark stream]

Whatever you say buddy

[vagrant wave]

as long as you kill the boss your damagin it really doesnt matter whats better

[spark stream]

That is an excellent outlook on life

[potent sand]

Only issue is bosses that are a pain shooting crits with a sniper to proc cascade

[wooden kiln]

1. Single. Ad. Not many bosses have 0 ads, a near impossible crit, and a situation where 11 shots is bad

[potent sand]

Does Cascade deconstruct domore than cascade bait and switch?

[wooden kiln]

Total there's no argument it's like 70% more. The argument is dps, I'd say yes it still does bc you dump all your shots with bns before cascades out

But with decon you only have 1-2 shots not cascade speed

So you utilize like 75% of cascade with bns, but bc decon gives you just sooooo much extra shots you can use all of its benefits before needing a reload

I'm also mega biased towards sticky decon bc I have tested against several 6/5 envi bns cascade edgers

[potent sand]

If it’s shorter damage phase would you still go cascade deconstruct

[wooden kiln]

I'm never taking it off

Having 1 singular refreshable reload perk gives unfathomable damage. Outside of highly specific encounters that require sword or atrax or somthing similar

I either get a kill with an add going into damage or hit 2 supremacy or 3 cloudstrike shots, depending on how I'm feeling

Then dump 11 edge shots

[spark stream]

No

This guy is coping

[wooden kiln]

Dodge to reload, then throw a melee to scorch to get dodge back, proc cascade with sniper, dump 11 more shots, dodge again, sniper, 11 more shots

Celestial, proc cascade 11 shots dodge cascade 11 shots

44 shots, not one single regular reload and just as fast if not faster that normal envi 21 mag dump

[ocean thistle]

Bro really is still coping about deconstruct being a good perk

[rose thunder]

Bugged though, get it but likely to be patched

[tiny bane]

Deconstruct cascade in my experience has been doing 1.5m on caretaker during a floor while envious bns does upper 2m

The ammo economy is better

But its dmg is bad

[ocean thistle]

his whole argument is that it has good total dmg because of how much ammo it gets, yet nothing in this game requires total dmg done

[tiny bane]

The reason why cascade deconstruct does more total damage is it gets ammo back

[tiny bane]

It also does awful dps

[ocean thistle]

yes, do idk why bro keeps saying that he out damages people using izzy apex swaps when he has deconstruct

[tiny bane]

The roll has a lot of numbers and new player logic is more numbers= better

[ocean thistle]

true

[tiny bane]

In reality each shot does like 70k and ur getting like 20 shots out in dps max

You walk out with a lot of gl shots

But the guy with bns still did double ur dmg

Theoretically you will do more if you did 47 phases and the envious bns guy found 0 ammo

[ocean thistle]

except nowadays, getting heavy ammo is never a problem with people running aeons and cenotaph

[tiny bane]

cascade deconstruct does seem like a great roll for like gms

But the issue is at most your getting 7 shots out before someone strafes in the well or the boss moves or the boss shoots a pellot

It seems this guy has been having the izzy rocket swap users stop shooting after they run out of ammo

He did say he was a hunter

Bro just finds 5 well locks

[tiny bane]

Five very inexperienced well locks

Who don't shoot there enegy weapons during dps

[uneven vapor]

Don’t use caretaker for your damage tests. He is the worse boss in the entire game due to his damage multiplier being the highest in the game

Meaning a Gl shot that does 250k on caretaker on a boss like Templar who is a 1.0 multiplier would do less than 80K damage

These numbers are not realistic, I’m just throwing them in to make a point

If you wanna to test a weapon do your testing at Templar or Ogre boss at grasp or avarice. They both have the same damage multiplier

[wooden kiln]

except ive had 10+ boss damage screens showing me having more damage than cascade bns and envi bns players. tested this roll against 3 different casc envi bns and outdamaged all 3.

werent all you guys nutting over that roll or somthin?

[spark stream]

Lets check the total damage over 15 seconds and see whats highest

[wooden kiln]

name a boss and a time. nows gonna be rough cause this next 2 weeks i got finals

[ocean thistle]

nerd