What is raid dps weapon meta?

[olive moth]

im an old veteran player coming back to the game for the first time since witch queen release. I have no idea what is meta raid dps right now, and I want to get back into raids and dungeons.

(hunter main btw)

what should I use for warlord's ruin first boss/prophecy first boss?

[feral crescent]

Rockets + celestial or sumn

[gaunt plover]

Legend of Acrius is great for first prophecy boss, but they have fairly low health so most things will work.

For Warlord's first boss, Lament for consistency or rockets/heavy-gls for dps.

In terms of supers, Stareater's Blade Barrage is the best damage super available. Smaller targets can have knives miss though which can make Nighthawk better.

[mint lodge]

to put it into context, with pyrogales and izanagi I got very close to one phasing proph first boss while using a green adaptive frame grenade launcher

Close enough that it probably is possible but I'd need to try other things

[unreal torrent]

a one phase is insanely easy on phalanx echo what are you doing wrong wtf

[frozen perch]

Bro what one phasing that boss is so easy.

[mint lodge]

green adaptive frame grenade launcher

It hits like a water balloon and takes 35 years to reload

obviously I could bang on edge transit and one phase in like 10 seconds but that's no fun

[frozen perch]

The hell are you using a green gl for?

Ain’t no triumph that says kill the boss with a sh*t weapon

[feral crescent]

Because why not

[mortal lagoon]

Um proh first boss is harder to not 1 phase than to 1 phase

[mint lodge]

to see if I could one phase with a green GL

I wanted to see if it was possible, and the verdict is probably, although I couldn't with the build I mentioned before

[mint lodge]

Exactly, every time I do it I use something completely random and one phase, so I wanted to see where the bar is

[thick mantle]

Damn everyone really got in your face for trying to have fun while playing Destiny

[mint lodge]

lmao yeah most destiny players are so deep in the meta Stockholm syndrome they forgot that fun exists

[thick mantle]

Facts, why play a video game if you are not having fun, fair point if you find optimizing fun, but dont push it on others

[mint lodge]

Don't get me wrong I'm no thunderlord user, but it's prophecy first encounter who cares mess around a bit

[hybrid pier]

i find enjoyment in being good at the game

i do not enjoy 4 phasing a boss

1 phasing is very satisfying and using interesting and intense dmg methods is also fun

[mint lodge]

sure but putting on edge transit and one phasing prophecy first boss says nothing about skill

I got over the rush of one phasing that guy hundreds of hours ago, far more fun to put on some goofy stuff and still one phase

[mint lodge]

Anyway seeing as this channel got so much traction because I didn't one phase kell echo one time, I tried it again, this time I used pyrogales with a recomb mountaintop shot and merciless with the green grenade launcher

Two mags of merciless almost did it so although I finished him off with the grenade launcher for the easy one phase it feels like that was cheating as merciless did almost all of the damage

[hybrid pier]

merciless is good

is kell echo the first one i cant remember their names

[mint lodge]

yeah he is

[pseudo sinew]

SO REAL BRO

[gaunt plover]

Phalanx Echo. Kell Echo is final boss.

[sand prism]

Fourth horseman 😁

[pseudo sinew]

Erm what does that mean? I saw aegis had it in his vault so why is it good

[sand prism]

Its the best

[olive shoal]

He has a dark past

[pseudo sinew]

Why would my favorite rta tier list speedrunner do something like this?

[olive shoal]

... does he know?

[pseudo sinew]

Nope aegis has vog wr so he's clearly 100% rta

Try explaining that one bud

[olive shoal]

Anyone in the top 500 speedrank either limited or played with limiters

[ancient garden]

there are a few rta teams that are in there but mostly yeah

[olive shoal]

Like who?

[ancient garden]

fairly certain gunnerhawk has a decent time on every raid

i saw he got a crota time so i cannot imagine he doesnt have the rest

oh i guess he has never done a vog

weird.

[pseudo sinew]

Gunnarhawk emblem my favorite

[olive shoal]

Can't find him

Crota times are easy

[pseudo sinew]

@olive shoal
https://raid.report/pc/4611686018489338875

He has a bad vow no vog mid gos

[ancient garden]

if he got a decent vog

like a 20 he would still easily be masters tho

[pseudo sinew]

Yeah

[ancient garden]

top 500*

[olive shoal]

His crota is limited

[ancient garden]

its not

[pseudo sinew]

23 vow 11 gos he would be like almost challenger

[olive shoal]

Yes it is

[pseudo sinew]

Check the bray.tech dot

[olive shoal]

Same with ron

[ancient garden]

i dont care that much, kenny is a skilled rta and api player

rest of the fireteam is either sucessful day 1 players or speedrunners like gunner

[olive shoal]

Chris netlim crota

Mad |ron

[ancient garden]

yeah man?

[olive shoal]

Kenny|dsc

[ancient garden]

your entirely sure he limited why?

[olive shoal]

One person swaps to fhm for a single kill

Speedrunners don't swap to unnecessary things

Just because you play with a limiter doesn't make you a bad person

Its just not possible to get that fast of times without

[ancient garden]

thats not true i mean the rta record is in the 9s

[olive shoal]

Why would there be more then one limiter

[ancient garden]

add 50 second load thats a 10:50

[olive shoal]

Top 500 api is done by api runs

[olive shoal]

Skilled api player

[ancient garden]

yeah kenny is a good farmer

[olive shoal]

Bro watched a YouTube video then got high speedranks

[ancient garden]

?

[olive shoal]

Net limiting players take 0 skill

[pseudo sinew]

You can be good and limit what

[ancient garden]

limit isnt ring

[pseudo sinew]

Your mechanical skill still carries over

[ancient garden]

you still need to play the game

[olive shoal]

Erm no

[pseudo sinew]

Umm yes??

[ancient garden]

its cheating but you dont get free times by downloading it

[pseudo sinew]

SiC limited at one point are you gonna call him a burger

[ancient garden]

sicrobes still limits

[olive shoal]

Yes

[pseudo sinew]

Countless other rta goats have limited

[olive shoal]

Yes

[pseudo sinew]

Limiting ≠ burger

[olive shoal]

Netlimiting is not a accomplishment

[olive shoal]

Do you netlimit?

[ancient garden]

noones saying it is

[pseudo sinew]

No its not but you can't say limiter makes you bad

[pseudo sinew]

Absolutely not

I'm ps5 I couldn't if I wanted to (which I don't)

[olive shoal]

Do you play with them

[pseudo sinew]

I've done a raid in the past 7 months so yeah I've seen a few

[elfin bobcat]

just because it is a low time doesn't mean it is limited by any means. Take xemo for example, he has a 10:56 crota that was rta.

[hybrid pier]

What is this convo bruh

Also rta horseman is acc good for wr first boss

Bequest and horseman r used in record

I remember seeing someone saying they limited in the rta record cus they saw horseman

Like it is a genuinely good gun and is used a lot in speedrunning

[elfin bobcat]

that moment when d2 lfg learns that horsemen has one of the highest burst dps in the game