What weapons should I be farming/keeping for PvE?

[modern wadi]

Haven’t properly played since WQ dropped and before I previously uninstalled I basically cleared my vault except for PvP god rolls.

What weapons should I be farming/keeping for PvE?

What weapons should I be farming for and what rolls should I be looking out for? I’ve seen that The Supremacy is now good for some bosses and Riptide for champs but what else should I be focusing?

[simple mulch]

apex predator

[modern wadi]

Last wish right? What roll am I looking for?

[simple mulch]

reconstruction bait and switch

[modern wadi]

Okay what else?

[supple socket]

izanagi, heritage, nessa's oblation, edge transit (obviously when it drops), forbearance (ITL one will be on par if not better), succession

[blissful totem]

rufus fury, scatter signal, succession, forbearance, some smg, commemoration, eager edge sword, apex, cataclysm

[modern wadi]

Okay what rolls am I wanting for cataclysm, forebearance and commemoration?

Is Golden Tricon/Unrelenting a good Forebearance?

[blissful totem]

ambitious chain reaction, it's why the weapon is so cracked
just get the cataclysmic for now, lfr isn't in good meta but it's like the best lfr

recon or subsistence, killing tally

[modern wadi]

I’ve been farming cataclysm. Went through like 20 and best roll I got was fourth times and adaptive munitions

[supple socket]

????

why waste more time trying to get something that is significantly worse

@modern wadi just do the riven's wishes quests and get apex 😭

[blissful totem]

oh no you get red borders so you can craft whatever you want

[modern wadi]

Yeah my red border drop rate is non existent

[simple mulch]

Cataclysmic is pretty mid now

[modern wadi]

So fourth times and adaptive is fine?

[supple socket]

cataclysmic is not worse going out of your way for anymore

[blissful totem]

you get 2 free a week

[supple socket]

no thats awful

[modern wadi]

How?

[simple mulch]

I’d go for a briars personally

[supple socket]

^

[modern wadi]

Oh I got told in the raid team that fourth times was the best for cataclysmic

[supple socket]

or doomed petitioner

[simple mulch]

Red boarder challenge during the raid and you can buy a free red boarder at the end of the raid

[modern wadi]

Yes but solar lfr specifically

[blissful totem]

you get 1 free from the run and can unlock a 2nd red border from doing a red challenge during the run
lfg's say they're going for red too

[modern wadi]

Also very useful for my solar radiant builds

[blissful totem]

or if it's an old raid like last wish there's a hawthorne quest

[supple socket]

fttc is what you want in 3rd column, but adaptive is sht, you want BnS

[supple socket]

apex 😭

[modern wadi]

Yeah I’m working on getting apex too

[blissful totem]

woo

[modern wadi]

Can only do one LW this week

[supple socket]

I would just stop focusing on cataclysmic

[modern wadi]

Okay

[blissful totem]

and forbearance you can get after into the light

[modern wadi]

And chain reaction with ambitious for forebearance

[blissful totem]

focus on apex and commemoration/succession

[modern wadi]

Okay but isn’t the raid perk better?

[blissful totem]

and exotics i guess

[modern wadi]

Succession and commemoration are both solely from dsc right?

[supple socket]

it literally makes no difference

[blissful totem]

ye

[supple socket]

yea

[modern wadi]

I have like all exotics except the new dungeon and raid ones

[blissful totem]

good

trinity ghoul and sunshot are dummy cracked

[modern wadi]

Okay so we do dsc and LW and hope one of them is rotator this coming week

What rolls do I want for succession and commemoration ?

[blissful totem]

recon vorpal, recon/subsist killing tally

[modern wadi]

LW and DSC won’t be on rotation for a few weeks apparently so I just go for the 1 per char per week I guess

[supple socket]

succession you can just get the new version on tuesday

unless you still need heritage

[modern wadi]

I don’t have heritage either

[blissful totem]

eh, that's shotguns. slug is good if you like using those, but that's up to you

[modern wadi]

I literally only kept PvP weapons in my vault. So majority are sunset or they are snapshot, quick draw, outlaw, etc rolls

What about autos? I have the ammit with ambitious and incan as well as one with dsr and adaptive munitions which helps me great in LSs

[simple mulch]

autos for pvp

[blissful totem]

ammit is good, and rufus fury which for some reason has 10000000 stability

[modern wadi]

What’s your go to solo lost sector build? And your go to for raids/gms

[simple mulch]

depends on what boss/raid i'm doing

[modern wadi]

Okay fair enough 😂

Do you have dim loadouts saved? Could you share a couple so I can get an idea?

[blissful totem]

honestly it just depends

lost sector says what the champs are and what element is surge. so you use that

you can't just like "give me a loadout" rotators lol
today's LLS is barrier/ustop solar surge
barrier is arby/wish ender, ustop is bow/hc/sunshot. solar rocket.

[modern wadi]

Okay so for today being solar surge I could run riptide and heliocentric and be fine

Wait chill clip is for overload

[blissful totem]

chill can kinda do ustops

[modern wadi]

Okay so arby with a HC

[blissful totem]

the kf zaoli's is cracked

[modern wadi]

I haven’t done a kingsfall yet

[blissful totem]

you can double damage perk

[modern wadi]

I need to get pyrogales today so looks like arby hc will be my go to

Or bow hc gally

[supple socket]

Simply don't do lost sectors 🙏

Just get every exotic you don't have from vex incursions on neomuna and focus for the rolls you want at rahool

[rugged eagle]

any titan exotic missing from lost sectors? definetly use any shoulder charge with peregrine greaves

best titan exotic, I'd say it's buff is solely for lost sectors

[modern wadi]

Yeah sorry but I do NOT have enough ascendant shards to be focusing all my exotics at rahool. I’m not event at light level to be doing GMs fast enough for it to be worth it either.

Lost sector I can do in 5-10 minutes depending on the day and I’m guaranteed to get a certain slot.

You’re telling me it’s better to spend that same time doing the vex incursions then MORE time doing GMs to get ascendant shards. 🤡

[supple socket]

insulting me for giving you advice is kinda wild 💀

[supple socket]

5-10 min in a single lost sector is wild

you are not guaranteed to get an exotic to drop regardless of difficulty

so that 5-10 min will get really tedious when you've spent 4 hours doing lost sectors only to get MAYBE 3 exotics if you're lucky

I'd much rather unlock every exotic and then focus for the rolls I want than spend 3 hours doing 2 min runs for an exotic every 30 runs 💀

and gms aren't even that hard to farm, and they're definitely not the only source of shards rn, coil is a much more forgiving and lucrative source for shards

[wraith geyser]

Absolutely incorrect drop rate is 25%ish i have so far never ever gone more than 3 runs without any exotics, and farmed all my exotics from lost sectors plus you start getting 2mins on easier ones

[supple socket]

I know what the drop rate is

that doesn't mean there's some pity system that guarantees them after 4 runs

and just because the drop rate is 25% doesn't mean that its worth it still, you still have to deal even more rng on top of just not getting the rolls you want from rng,

AND rng of just not getting the exotic you want, where as with focusing, its extremely easy to get 2 shards and focus for what exotic you want specifically

[modern wadi]

Okay “it’s extremely easy to get 2 shards”. How. I have run many coils and gotten barely any. Not able to do GMs as with my light right now they take 40minutes to an hour.

So if you’re so right. Tell me how. If shards are sooooo easy to get as you say they are, then yes focusing would be more efficient.

[modern wadi]

Genuinely if it’s as easy as you say it is, share with me how and I’ll try it

[simple mulch]

get them from rahool

and the season pass

and the vendors give shards

[modern wadi]

How many do you get from the pass? 6? I don’t have enough prisms and the other one for shards

Getting shards from vendors require constant bounty’s and what not.

What we’re arguing about is whether it’s more efficient to get exotics from lost sectors or by doing the vex incursions to unlock every exotic then focusing specific armor

If I have to complete bounties to max vendor ranks multiples times to get shards enough shards or do GMs AS well as vex incursions

There’s no way that’s more efficient than just farming 5 minute lost sectors with a 25% drop chance. I usually get one every 3-4 runs. So an exotic every 20 or so minutes

[simple mulch]

do explain why you need so many golfballs

[modern wadi]

I don’t. But old mate is trying to say that focusing specific sectors at rahool is better than running lost sectors. You need 2 golf balls everytime you focus an exotic at rahool

This is why it’s important to not join mid conversation without reading the entire conversation:)

[simple mulch]

ok new player

[modern wadi]

(I also need more golf balls full stop as I need to properly set up my warlock and titan with MW gear)

[simple mulch]

question what the experienced are saying makes sense

[modern wadi]

Is “new player” supposed to be an insult?

[supple socket]

why tf are you trying to be so hostile man like we're just trying to give advice and you're over here being an ass about advice you just don't like 💀

[modern wadi]

Bro

[modern wadi]

Deadass did you even read my message to you

[supple socket]

yes bro 💀

[modern wadi]

I literally said Tell me how to do it and I will try it

[supple socket]

I know, I can read

you just do coil

[modern wadi]

And? Are you going to tell me how?

[supple socket]

you get plat, you easily get like 2 shards per run

thats a pretty free 18 min run

[simple mulch]

if you need someone to explain how to get rewards from an activity ur pretty stupid

[modern wadi]

You’re doing 18 minute plat coils?

[supple socket]

compared to the idk, 20+ runs you'd have to get to get a decent roll on a semi random exotic from a lost sector

[supple socket]

sht is just not that hard 💀

or

[modern wadi]

If you’re doing 18 minute plat coils teach me how the f because mine take 40 minutes to do all 4 pathways

[simple mulch]

for you, find good teammates and get carried

[supple socket]

you can stop worrying about getting good rolls, because quite frankly they mean nothing in pve, and focus on getting to power/pinnacle cap and getting good weapons and actually getting the exotic armor first 💀

Like I promise you, getting 2x 100 can be easily achieved without a good exotic roll

and 3x 100 is pretty unnecessary

[modern wadi]

Okay? Im at 1800 already but I play like 1 maybe 2 afternoons a week so grinding every single pinnacle activity I couldn’t really care less about. I get pinnacle as I do.

How do you run 18 minute coils?

[supple socket]

you just do coil

idrk how else to tell you, I've never gotten anything slower than 20

[simple mulch]

i just said, get good teammates and get carried

and maybe get to pinni cap as well

[supple socket]

💀

[modern wadi]

10/10 great help. “Hey how do I do this” “you just do it”

Great community person wow 10/10

[supple socket]

there is literally nothing special about an 18 min run

[simple mulch]

tf you want us to say?

[supple socket]

you just do the activity, there is no special strat, no special loadout, you just do it

[simple mulch]

go to the helm and press on the coil activity node

[supple socket]

I think he wants his hand held 😭

[simple mulch]

i was about to say that

[modern wadi]

I literally just don’t get how you can do all 4 pathways and get a platinum score in 18 minutes. Like that just doesn’t seem physically possible.

[supple socket]

ok

[simple mulch]

skill issue tbh

[supple socket]

yikes

[simple mulch]

get a load of this guy

to answer whatever you said, i say skill issue because you can't do it even tho it's very easily doable

just not something you can do

[modern wadi]

Alternatively, you could actually be helpful

Just because it’s very easily doable for you doesn’t mean it’s very easily doable for everyone

[supple socket]

very easily doable would imply that anyone and everyone can easily do it

:)

[modern wadi]

Not necessarily because how is it supposed to be easy for someone if they don’t even know how to do it?

[supple socket]

that's different

[modern wadi]

You could say driving a car is easy. But if someone doesn’t know how to drive a car then it’s not easy for them

[supple socket]

what he means is, even if you don't know how to do it, its still easy

[modern wadi]

So tell me how to do it

How do you kill everything so fast. How do you kill each of the 4 bosses so fast

Even in a 3 stack the final boss of the fourth pathway takes us 10 minutes alone

[simple mulch]

are you 1810

[modern wadi]

I am 1805 without artifact. 5 power should not make that much of a difference

[simple mulch]

it kind of does

what's the build that you use then

[modern wadi]

Usually sunshot sunbraces and spam grenades

Or Polaris lance

[simple mulch]

then what are your teammates running

and the answer has to be strand titan

[modern wadi]

1 is my mate that also runs sunshot and lorely or will run bubble. He doesn’t have strand unlocked yet. The 3rd is usually a random unless we 2 man it

[simple mulch]

then tell your titan friend to get strand unlocked

and then you also use your strand titan

[modern wadi]

Okay so strand titan

What’s special about out strand titan

[simple mulch]

that's how i do sub 20 runs

[simple mulch]

lots of dmg and healing with banner of war

[modern wadi]

Okay we’ll get strand tonight and we have 7 weeks to farm coil. What build do you use? Like fragments

[simple mulch]

i'm not big on buildcrafting, but i use thread of binding, continuity, transmution, and generation with synthoceps

and then into the fray and bow as my aspects

[modern wadi]

Awesome. And I assume weapons don’t matter. Does exotic armor matter?

[simple mulch]

you would mainly want a 12p shotty and synthoceps

[modern wadi]

For the boss I assume?

[simple mulch]

for anything that moves

[modern wadi]

Sudden death with 12p and repulsor is the only 12p I have

[simple mulch]

go farm dares or crota for a better 12p

[modern wadi]

I take that back I have a wasteland with 12p and subsistence

I haven’t even done a crota yet. Got half way through second encounter

[blissful totem]

you should, but wasteland is kinetic so you're already winning

[modern wadi]

yeah i tried but we got to 2nd encounter

[thick olive]

How did this get so toxic 😭

[modern wadi]

people deciding to call an activity "easy" whilst refusing to help someone get better at it

[shut igloo]

Crota sucks just get an ikelos sg

[broken ether]

If it hasn’t been said briars contempt (Root of Nightmares Linear) with reconstruction or rewind rounds with surrounded

[supple socket]

because it was funny

[shut igloo]

Wewind wounds

[broken ether]

😭

[simple mulch]

That’s only good in one specific encounter

LFRs are mid rn

[shy garnet]

edge

[broken ether]

wrong, lfrs are still good and will probably continue to be good

[simple mulch]

What bosses will someone willing use an lfr on

[shut igloo]

Gotd end boss

[shy garnet]

edge

[shut igloo]

Funniest destiny gimmick name "person"

You get a free Bungie name change today you better use it

[supple socket]

💀

[modern wadi]

Right so fastest time is 30 minutes as two BoW titans with Synthos.

Both running 12p with one on tractor cannon and the other on gally. We’re literally breezing through every encounter but I genuinely can’t see how we can get down to 20 minutes.

We literally zoom through every pathway and one phase each boss in under a minute.

We’re averaging 6 minutes per pathway and then final boss takes us about 5-6 minutes. Usually from running out of ammo.

What are we taking too long on? So far the encounters that take us the longest are specifically the final boss and the LW Ogre encounter area.

Each taking us about 5 minutes themselves

[shy garnet]

Where does bro mention lfrs in this essay

[simple mulch]

Bro is lost

[modern wadi]

Read the damn messages I was asking you a question specifically

I just replied to whatever your most recent message was to tag you

[restive wyvern]

Its rly not clear what ur talking about ngl

Rivens lair?

Ur trying to duo speedrun rivens lair?

How does that relate to lfrs or the original post?

[simple mulch]

Yeah I still don’t know what bro is trying to tell me

[modern wadi]

The coil

Like the entire argument that happened above between you and that other dude claiming you can get 18 minute coil runs and it’s the fastest way to farm ascendant shards

[modern wadi]

THIS CONVERSATION ^

[simple mulch]

I never said linears

I said I used banner of war

[restive wyvern]

Coil is a very good alloy farm

Ok shard farm it just depends if the gm that week is faster

[modern wadi]

i never mentioned lineears where did linears even come from?

[simple mulch]

go back to here u tard

[modern wadi]

where did i say linears?

[simple mulch]

u responded to me asking when you will ever use lfrs

[modern wadi]

that was literally just to get your attention

[modern wadi]

^^^^^^

[simple mulch]

you're just rtdd for that

[modern wadi]

anyway can you answer or not

[simple mulch]

@me you clown

[simple mulch]

my answer is that you are a rtdd

[modern wadi]

@simple mulch

[simple mulch]

baby learned his first words

[modern wadi]

so i ask for help to get my time down and you call me rtdd wow how nice and helpful of you

[simple mulch]

skill is also a big part of it which you don't have

can't help with that

[modern wadi]

its not a skill thing

I am literally breezing through every encounter with ease

the only way I can see you getting sub 20 minute runs is by skipping areas or not getting plat

[simple mulch]

sure u are bud