the new grenade launcher

[frozen umbra]

Is it any good

[narrow kettle]

its a heavy waveframe... it can get some decent ish perks, but since its heavy, its not good, just mid

[granite tapir]

they could be on about the new doubleshot solar gl with which i have no idea havnt looked at the perk pool

[narrow kettle]

oh that one

it can get incandescent

[dusty acorn]

There were like 3 gls that released so imma talk about all of them:
Strand wave frame: GOOD
Heavy wave frame: situational at best, mid at worst

Solar double fire: if youre looking at it for damage, its only usable on solar warlock in a RoF rotation. No auto loading means it is bad anywhere outside of that though

[granite tapir]

The strand gl you probably want envious and chain reaction/hatchling depending on ur build after the hatchling buff

For the solar gl you probably want envious incan, i wouldnt rly suggest it for dps

And for the arc id imagine voltshot chain reaction

Honestly they only one youre probably going to see alot of is the strand one like toxxic said, but I disagree with their opinion on the solar gl as envious is basically autoloading with an extra step + overflow :p

[dusty acorn]

I would argue slideways > envious for it
Main job of a wave frame is ad clear, envious means youre using a worse ad clear weapon just so you can ad clear with the better weapon

Unless you use like strand wave frame + forb but then bye bye burst damage

[dusty acorn]

My point about it being bad without auto loading is that for swapping rotations, youre going to be shooting more gl shots than the three you are given with envious

[granite tapir]

Wait is the strand kinetic?

[dusty acorn]

Thats why i said SPECIFICALLY for swapping, that its only good for solar warlock with RoF

[dusty acorn]

All strand weapons that arent heavy weapons are in the kinetic slot

[granite tapir]

I interpereted "no auto llading means it is bad anywhere outside of that tho" as outside of dps but i now realise you meant rof, mb

[dusty acorn]

Also, using a breech gl for ad clear isnt the best choice but it can work ig

Though if i would want a breech gl for ad clear, id just use salvo

Also no auto loading means using blinding nades on it is kinda iffy unless you keep getting kills with your other weapons in between

[frozen umbra]

Im a dumbahh i meant the new special gl that you get from night falls

[frozen iron]

spike, stats, incandescent or surrounded i guess

[dusty acorn]

Tldr:
For swapping its only good on solar warlock with RoF
For blinding its meh and there are better options
For ad clear just use salvo or a waveframe

[dusty acorn]

Why stats when envious is right there

Well ig IF you use it on RoF you dont really need envious

[frozen iron]

because envious is for kills with other weapons and why would you have two ads weapons?

[dusty acorn]

I was thinking for swapping purposes

[frozen iron]

if u swapping u want an auto load which it doesn't have

[dusty acorn]

I know
My point is that with envious you can do three gl shots on the first swap
And then just use RoF for every other

[frozen iron]

...so you use it for swapping but you can only swap 3 times?

[dusty acorn]

Do you know what RoF is

[frozen iron]

no

[dusty acorn]

Rain of fire...

Hence why i say its only good on solar warlock

Icarus dash = reload on all weapons

So you dont need auto if you have RoF

[frozen iron]

oh the legs

[dusty acorn]

Yeah

[frozen iron]

how often do you get in a teammates face doing rof rocket

[dusty acorn]

So its triple gl -> izi -> reload izi -> rocket rocket dash rocket dash rocket -> izi gl rocket dash rocket -> izi gl rocket dash rocket -> ...