Hyena always bullies me for having bad dps

[oblique hornet]

what weapons should i get besides apex?

Hyena always bullies me for having bad dps

[sly nest]

Dragons breath with a fusion is always a good option for damage

either you go full rocket dps with stuff like hothead, or you alternate rockets with fusions/snipers or GLs

get a rapid fire sniper and a fusion, that should suffice for any dps situation

[oblique hornet]

ok

[oblique hornet]

but which fusions?

[alpine raft]

Learn apex rotations

The new strand rapid fire fusion is really good.

Proc bns, blow thy load with apex shoot 3 shots of fusion shoot 1 rocket and more often than not that’ll be a dps phase. If not do a few fusion and a few rocket.until dps is over

[oblique hornet]

what roll should i use?

for dps

[alpine raft]

I think everyone gets a controlled burst slice roll but its craftable so id get controlled burst and overflow enchanced

[twin creek]

the slice stacks with the strand radiant thing so when your in a well slice is going to do even more dmg

[twin creek]

watch out for anyone using any solar supers besides well or sunbracers or another dragons breath tho

[sly nest]

Pretty much always some kind of overflow like ALH, overflow or envious assasin. then perks like controlled burst, vorpal or chillclip

rolls for guns is pretty much always the same. its always the same concept its just that you try to replicate it with the perks available

as little reload as possible + easy damage perk (the greater the better)

[alpine raft]

nukyy correct me if im wrong but sever doesnt allow you to deal more damage but reduces the damage you take from sliced target

[twin creek]

This is true

[alpine raft]

ok so why did you say slice makes you do more dmg?

[twin creek]

But due to the artifact perk when radiant, weapons deal more damage to targets effected by strand or stasis

[sly nest]

correct

sever'ed targets deal 20% less damage. like disruption from overload

[alpine raft]

not exactly useful long term but i guess this season is a bit of an anomoly

[twin creek]

Exactly

[twin creek]

Forgot to mention that in my post

The damage difference is 15% so as long as your radient slice can be used it as damming perk

I've noticed whatever my target is dies before i run out of ammo

[vagrant sonnet]

use overflow enhanced and controlled burst

currently on light gg there is no benefit from having controlled burst enhanced

most of the time ur in a well or smthg so slice doesnt mean really much anything because you have tons of sources from healing already

[twin creek]

what

[vagrant sonnet]

for dps, slice doesn’t matter match because you’re sitting in a infinite healing well

it’s not better than overflow

[twin creek]

so your assuning everyone is a lock?

[vagrant sonnet]

pretty much majority of all teams have a composition of 1 lock

if not healing nades on solar

slice is not worth it

aren’t you the person that gives advice with like 30 raid clears other dude was talking about yesterday💀

@sacred plover is this the dude

[twin creek]

yes

[sacred plover]

yes lamo

[vagrant sonnet]

makes sense

thanks for confirming💀

[twin creek]

overflow only works if there is special bricks and its a 48 reload spead on a rapid fire with a 2.05 sec reload has no need for a perk like overflow

the dammage buff works for the full team

and stacks with debuffs

especially when in a well

[vagrant sonnet]

i think none of my teams have ever died from a boss unless it’s mechanic lol like rhulks pervading darkness

[twin creek]

what?

[vagrant sonnet]

hyena, i’m not entertaining someone with 30 overall raid clears who is yapping

@sacred plover get your boy please

[twin creek]

we are talking about slices combination with the torch artifact perk that helps increase damage of all people who are ina well against a boss?

are you acoustic? api checkers so weird bro

[vagrant sonnet]

💀 do not run slice

[twin creek]

are you acoustic

You have over 2khours in this game

[vagrant sonnet]

api checkers so weird bro

💀💀💀

[twin creek]

I have 30 full clears

I use checkpoints

idc about speed times

[vagrant sonnet]

you’re still yapping

for what

[twin creek]

this doesn't change the fact that overflow does practically nothing compared to 2 dammage perks

lmk if u want to test that one later

[vagrant sonnet]

you’re still yapping like i’m going to read it

[twin creek]

bro says the one who suggested a ammo perk for a question dps related

[vagrant sonnet]

still yapping

[oblique hornet]

Dont have time to read ur argument

So one of yall tell me which roll should i use

[alpine raft]

Overflow controlled

[oblique hornet]

Ok thank you

[alpine raft]

The artifact also has a mod that gives you unraveling for picking up an orb. Its a lot easier than:

Procing radiant, then using your class ability and THEN you get 15% more dps.

Dmg*

[vagrant sonnet]

you clutched up

[alpine raft]

I gotchu

[alpine raft]

But i also said to use this at the start

[dire ledge]

Less reloading = more dps

And you’re most likely gonna get an orb of power during damage phase, so if you have the artifact mod that gives unraveling rounds you get the benefits of overflow AND the damage boost from strand debuff

[twin creek]

This is a fair point good idea

[keen kiln]

Yapping

Fusions suck anyway

[twin creek]

Bro what

[keen kiln]

Fusions r mid

Shotguns, gls and snipers r better for swaps

[twin creek]

Your on something

[keen kiln]

You’re

[twin creek]

Why can everyone with a blue roll talk in any debate or argument without spelling or raid reporting

[keen kiln]

What

Fusions unironically rnt that good

If u want to do optimal apex rotations ur using a gl and izi

If ur on tractor shotgun swapping is better

Fusions r just easy

[alpine raft]

Snipers are better than fusions but there are situations where crits arent readily available where fusions are better

[keen kiln]

Then gls or shotguns

[twin creek]

Shotguns do not outdamage fusions without a crit point

[keen kiln]

They 100% do

Hmm i cant send links

But its been extensively tested and shotguns r a lot better than fusions

[alpine raft]

gls arent as good as fusions. shotguns maybe but they dont have the range that fusions do

at least against non crit targets

slugs do need a crit tho

[keen kiln]

Slugs rnt as good as aggressives or leightweights

Gls r also a better swap option for rocket rotations

Higher handling and no charge time

[alpine raft]

true

[keen kiln]

Merciless is rly good

But most legendary options rnt

Also total damage for shotgun swapping is considerably better than a single fusion

Looking at testing scatter signal is at about 84k dps while surrounded slugs r at 150k and surrounded aggressives r at 140k

[alpine raft]

damage wise spread shotties might be better but they are so situational that it doesnt matter

[keen kiln]

Wdym

[alpine raft]

optimal range is like 8-10m and there are only like. 2 bosses that let you that close.

[keen kiln]

Lunafaction well

[alpine raft]

12

thats still not gonna bring you in optimal range

[keen kiln]

For a lot of bosses it does

[alpine raft]

not really.

[keen kiln]

Then use a sniper

Theres no situation where a fusion is optimal

[alpine raft]

again, body shotting with a sniper is not gonna work

[keen kiln]

What boss

The only raid/dungeon bosses i can think of w a hard to hit crit r like ogre bosses

Which r all close range

Merciless is valid but other than that fusions rly slack

[alpine raft]

most of the coil bosses besides the taken knight are annoying to crit. vow boss without div. nezzy without div is a bit annoying.

nez isnt that bad

[keen kiln]

Coil bosses💀

Rhulk or caretaker?

[alpine raft]

caretaker isnt bad

[keen kiln]

Both have crits which rnt that hard to hit

[alpine raft]

most ogres arent actually that bad. just hit the face and ur good

its like templar's crit

[keen kiln]

Yh they just bug out a lot

[alpine raft]

ez to hit

[keen kiln]

They b tweakin