Why are there so many dumb people

[chilly cedar]

If your bad at the game dont help

[ocean fulcrum]

are you on the spectrum?

[wild owl]

Are you asking a question

[native coral]

I think someone may have a skill issue they haven't resolved

[charred egret]

[mellow stirrup]

[lean acorn]

sigma skibidi ohio

[silver epoch]

I mean he ain't wrong

But the title is a bit blunt, nor does it belong in help

[dense stream]

nor is it a question

[warped oxide]

True

[dense stream]

what about the pineapple mayo incident tho

[flat gate]

What do you think is a bad player?

[raven cobalt]

op that's a mirror

[torpid sigil]

@novel sail

[torpid sigil]

I think this is referring to matiiks the user giving endgame advice despite having 0 gm clears 0 raid clears and no raid weapons

[novel sail]

Yes

[torpid sigil]

for the love of god please stop trying to help others

its kind

but its not helpful

AND PLEASE STOP POSTING THINGS LIKE "BEST FUSION RIFLE" Its a waste of everyones time

Ask productive questions like im doing ??? what weapons would you recommend

thats how you get help

[novel sail]

I alr did

[chilly cedar]

peoppe with 2 hour gm clears recommending loadouts that tell you to take a bow and sit in a corner

[chilly cedar]

no that's fine coz those are the noobs

and best fusion rifle is a valid question

[torpid sigil]

he has told us about "meta raid weapons before"

he said doom of chelsis was the best pve scout

Hes never beat a raid

[chilly cedar]

.

that's what I mean

[dense stream]

cuz he has heard it from me 🗣️🗣️

[torpid sigil]

this season u only really need to do each gm once or twice

[torpid sigil]

he doesn't answer to the responses tho I tried to help him with the gm and my teamate who was helping carry him said can you switch to mobius he said no this ones better

idk that kid does not take any advice

so he shouldn't be giving any

[chilly cedar]

I'm talking about people who ask what's a good loadout to farm x raid and they reccomend arbalest a bow and a linear to match the surge

[torpid sigil]

eww

Thats so extra

or the people who run all 3 champ counters

[torpid sigil]

on a raid?

gms its ok the goal is to get the gm done

[chilly cedar]

.

[torpid sigil]

(I don't farm gms I only do gms to help others) and to die a lot and have fun

[chilly cedar]

how do I somehow end up with dumb people on the post where I ask for no dumb people

[torpid sigil]

Hmmm

Idk maybe this post was dumb because gms this season big time waster

even if your speed running your better off running coil

[dense stream]

coil gives shards?

[torpid sigil]

people take gms too seriously

[torpid sigil]

yep 2

[dense stream]

i know of jawbreakers but not golfballs

[torpid sigil]

both

it can drop up to 6

[chilly cedar]

people who post gm guide videos and say to use arbalest should be banned from the game

[torpid sigil]

youtube guides should be banned

[chilly cedar]

that messed me up so much as a noob

dont say I still am a noob your not funny

[torpid sigil]

The build yt videos make me so upset

[dense stream]

arbalest was good for its time tho

[torpid sigil]

I saw a font in one yesterday

[dense stream]

until wishender

[chilly cedar]

no

everytime I joined a gm run back then I would hold the group back by sitting in a corner

and I used all the cheese spots too

until s19 came around and starfire spam was all I needed

[torpid sigil]

Youtubers give new players the worst builds and claim they are meta builds

[chilly cedar]

then after that I just made sure to do gms only with people who use the meta build

[dense stream]

i agree that thats bad, but that has nothing to do with arbalest, rather how you used it

you can still play aggrressive with arby in speeds

[chilly cedar]

the guide was sit in a corner, deal dps with linear, when your out of linear spam bow

[torpid sigil]

someone in one of these forums said that Azetecross was a trusted person to get builds from

[chilly cedar]

I dont think you've seen how bad the guides are

[dense stream]

yeah when ur team plays different then obv thats a bad guide

[torpid sigil]

azetac ross "this TRACE RIFLE IS SOGOOD"

[dense stream]

Above is the only "gm guide person" i somewhat recommend for absolute blueberries

hes not optimal, but does a good job at breaking the gm down into its encounters

[chilly cedar]

people who post gm guides usually post a run where it took them 40 minutes

[mellow stirrup]

needing a guide for gm is bonkers

[torpid sigil]

Or the meta shards of galanore build that he made that was poorly optimised

[mellow stirrup]

gms should take you around 20-35 minutes depending on the gm

[torpid sigil]

Frrrr

[dense stream]

blaming new players for needing help is bonkers

[chilly cedar]

^

[torpid sigil]

yes but they need to stay off yt

its only clickbait

[dense stream]

most, yeah. but again, not all of them

[chilly cedar]

people who make gm guides and their fastest run is like 30 mins should be banned from content creation

[torpid sigil]

What yt can u trust for builds

[dense stream]

.

[chilly cedar]

the only people I reccomend for gm guides

[dense stream]

he also often recommends the gjally+rocket spam strat, which is meta rn

[chilly cedar]

are speedrunners

outside of going out of map if you follow their builds you will be just find

fine*

[dense stream]

but which speedrunner makes guides on GMs?

[torpid sigil]

I still can not believe azetec tried to make the trials trace look worth hunting

[torpid sigil]

gm speedrunners

[dense stream]

ig you can copy their loadouts by watching but like proper guides? do they exist?

[torpid sigil]

no

learn to make your own buids

take feedback

[dense stream]

Yeah and a noob is not gonna be able to break down a team comp with only watching one PoV...

thats the whole point of a guide

[torpid sigil]

Find a player with more success then u and have them help u

its what I did

[dense stream]

when ur advanced enough to make ur own builds for gms you should alr be good enough to not need guides anymore

[charred egret]

and look how bad that turned out

[torpid sigil]

it worked well

[torpid sigil]

I mean I sherpa raids so I should stay out of this forumm with my gold speedrun rating

my issue here is the people who can not tell a opinion from straight up wrong

#1186929444284280852 like this forum is cringe

[chilly cedar]

nobody does

you just look at how they do it

saltagreppo for example just look at what loadout and stuff he is using

[dense stream]

.

[chilly cedar]

I've told a noob to do just that and it worked

[charred egret]

most speedrunners put a dim link in description so they could follow that

[chilly cedar]

make sure he knows how every part of the build works (12p, woven mail)

[dense stream]

yeah that'd work

[torpid sigil]

like the answer to this is super simple no absolutely not and strand is probably hunters worst subclass for raids and dungeons rn

[chilly cedar]

and then tell him to get in a group with people running the same meta build

[torpid sigil]

its like strand hunter has absolute nothing usefull for dps

and hardly anything for survivability

its just glorified ad clear

[charred egret]

true

fun af but not good

[torpid sigil]

its like arc lock its super fun but not great

i wish arclock was better

but chaos reach is a liability

and besides that once again glorified adclear

[chilly cedar]

arclock is decent

good for sectors

[charred egret]

it needs an instant cast super but i feel like it would be too similar to nova bomb

[torpid sigil]

like literally jsut tell them STRAND HUNTER IS DEAD

[dense stream]

fallen saber gets rolled by arclock

[torpid sigil]

It died with the last artifact

[torpid sigil]

that one is true but no fallen saber

[dense stream]

right as you say that ATp uploads a strand hunter solo gm speedrun

ur opinion is nullified

[torpid sigil]

because its for movement

[dense stream]

no its not 😂

[chilly cedar]

arc lock super should just be buffed to the same level of strand titan super

[dense stream]

the beyblade spam youre capable of is insane paired with quicksilver

[torpid sigil]

Why would u run strand hunter ove titan then

[torpid sigil]

Glorified adclear

[dense stream]

idk.. maybe ask ATP... one of the best players i know of 😭

[chilly cedar]

titan is better but atp is a hunter mai

[torpid sigil]

atp speedrunning a gm decides what the meta is?

[charred egret]

not any less valid than what you decide to say

[dense stream]

i just dont get why he has such an extreme opinion, acting like strand is completely and utterly dogshiet

[torpid sigil]

no

strand hunter just hunter

[dense stream]

never seen someone so stubborn about their opinion. one that is not even that valid

[torpid sigil]

strand titan is meta rn

[dense stream]

doesnt mean everything else is absolute garbage

[torpid sigil]

What is strand hunter good for besides adclear

[dense stream]

😭

[charred egret]

dmg and utility tbf

[torpid sigil]

He asked if its worth for raids the answer is that hunters have some of the best endgame builds rn

[dense stream]

also still the best suspend class. suspend isnt crazy rn but it still is the best at it

[charred egret]

between unraveling rounds and suspend you can do a good amount of stuff

[torpid sigil]

Yes but all other classes do this better

[torpid sigil]

osteo necrotic lock

[charred egret]

lmfao

[torpid sigil]

strand hunter is not worth investing in for a new raider

[dense stream]

thats 80% posion and 20% suspend. hunter has up to4 suspend abilities they can throw b2b

[torpid sigil]

strand hunter still only has one super

and its really bad

compared to the fact that they have celestial rn

[charred egret]

as opposed to the other classes which have 2 strand supers

[dense stream]

also ur swapping ur arguments to whatever fits ur style hm? a second ago we were in gms now its all about raids i guess

[torpid sigil]

no?

but they both have usefull strand supers

[dense stream]

no strand subclass is meta in raids besides maybe lock for its super/dps rotation

[charred egret]

in a gm setting you could argue hunter>wl strand supers

[dense stream]

you dont need a 12punch strand titan in raids

[rose marten]

but its good for dps

[torpid sigil]

what is?

[torpid sigil]

it still dominates in wr

[dense stream]

and dungeons again

[torpid sigil]

yeah

[dense stream]

ur a joke dude

[charred egret]

^

[rose marten]

12p strand titan

[torpid sigil]

its alr for dps

[rose marten]

its insane for solo content since you do way more dps than if you were using your heavy weapon

i do 450k per grapple melee

[charred egret]

12p double slash is 492k dmg 3xx dps, but the super is only like 140k dps

[rose marten]

yeah super is for add clear and "oh no im about to die" moments

[charred egret]

true

[rose marten]

i just panic pop it

[torpid sigil]

but strand hunters super is just useless atleast strand titan will heal up faster

[rose marten]

yeah strand hunter really needs something better in the super department

reduce the cooldown to 7 minutes or something

[torpid sigil]

you could make a graph about dying in supers and boom you will see strand hunter with a majority of the list

[rose marten]

at least

even if it was a 5 minute super it still wouldn't be as good as well

[charred egret]

tbh super cooldown is a negligible impact on playstyle (in pve)

[torpid sigil]

it doesn't need a faster cd it needs either more dmg or better dr

[rose marten]

it needs both

[torpid sigil]

Cooldown is irrelevant

[charred egret]

^

[rose marten]

in trials or comp strand super screws it over

[torpid sigil]

thats just gonna make it more op

[rose marten]

thats why i can never run strand hunter

[rose marten]

it, is, not, op

OP means that it just gives you the win

like bubble or well

[charred egret]

its balanced imo

[rose marten]

those require 0 skill to use

[torpid sigil]

Strand hunter is more likely to get nerfed then well or buble

[rose marten]

strand hunter doesn't change a round

[charred egret]

true

[rose marten]

it has WAY less usage tho

[dense stream]

in pvp strand hunter just has a high skill ceiling, which makes it good. but its nowhere near "overpowered"

[mellow stirrup]

just peregrine a well

[torpid sigil]

It changes every round

[mellow stirrup]

i got a 5k in IB from it

[rose marten]

i can't even tell you the number of times i have had a strand hunter pop super and i can gun them down

it isn't even a remote threat to me

[dense stream]

^

[mellow stirrup]

strand hunter is only ever a threat if you have no coordination

[rose marten]

more DR needed yes, but also super cooldown is so bad

[charred egret]

theyre an easy 1 tap they just run at you in a line

[rose marten]

i would consider myself decently skilled as i regularly drop 2.5+ in trials, and when im playing strand hunter, its just so much harder to change the round with the super

i just play void titan and bam, round won easy

[torpid sigil]

You push them dead you run your dead there abilities regen super fast

[torpid sigil]

No if they have cordination you loose

[rose marten]

the cooldowns really aren't that short

[hollow bronze]

you're so skibidi

[charred egret]

^ only bad with frostees

[rose marten]

barricades stop them dead in their tracks

[torpid sigil]

I mean strand hunter has gotten so many people in my clan there first flawless

Its the easiest to cruch

[rose marten]

their but yeah

threadling clone spam

its super easy to counter tho...

[charred egret]

playing in clans 💀

[rose marten]

shotgun, thats it

[hollow bronze]

imagine being in a clan

[rose marten]

take the zone, slap down a barricade

[hollow bronze]

couldnt be me

[torpid sigil]

are yall seriously complaining about shield bash

[rose marten]

nah i love that ability

[charred egret]

no one is lmao

[rose marten]

they made a good change

with the "after shooting can't bash"

[torpid sigil]

Its not op lol 90% of the time you get popped by conditional before connecting

Like well and buble are not op

You just have to play more strategically

[rose marten]

yeah they kinda are

[torpid sigil]

Especially now when u can super vs super

[rose marten]

if the other players are smart and know where to place their well

its pretty much game over

[torpid sigil]

You literally just have to adapt

[rose marten]

dumbest argument

[torpid sigil]

Get closer move up find space bait them

[rose marten]

you can use "you literally just have to adapt" for every single playstyle

[charred egret]

welp now we know youre trolling

[torpid sigil]

Literally shield bash with perigrine one shots them

[rose marten]

dumb

you just said shield bash is bad

[charred egret]

[rose marten]

its even worse when you're in the air and not on the ground

[torpid sigil]

Nah coming from a .5 kd player who went flawless last running void titan with conditionional igneus and perigrine

[charred egret]

yikes

[torpid sigil]

Yeah I should be banned from trials

[rose marten]

you talking about me or yourself

[torpid sigil]

Ngl

Ive cruched every meta and gone flawless the last 5 trials weeks

[charred egret]

no one cares, respectfully

[rose marten]

void titan is insanely oppressive with HOIL and shield throw

scatter nades shield throw rally barricade
bastion offensive bulwark

[torpid sigil]

But its not the supers that are op

[rose marten]

its the entire subclass, which is greatly aided BY the supers

[torpid sigil]

Ehh I mean bubbles and wells are easy to counter if you run meta stuff

Bubble you just have to find which titan used it

[charred egret]

you're .5 no one should take this advice seriously

[torpid sigil]

And well is easy counter

[rose marten]

try fighting 2 void titans in a bubble with multiple barricades and a witherhoard down

[torpid sigil]

People above 1.0 don't need advice

[rose marten]

explain

[torpid sigil]

All last week

[charred egret]

and ppl below 1.0 shouldnt give advice

[torpid sigil]

Boop, push em out shoot them hit your snipe literally any super

Conditional finality

Grenade the well

[rose marten]

yeah if they're smart you're dead before you make it to the well

[torpid sigil]

Not effective against well

But will make the position better

[rose marten]

(see quick healing and 25% damage buff for reference)

[rose marten]

like i said good players know where to place the well

[charred egret]

yap yap yap

[rose marten]

fr im out

bruv

no links? cringe

[lean acorn]

Yappaholic

[tardy apex]

hyena try not to embarrass himself challenge IMPOSSIBLE

[flat gate]

I’ve only started to get into raids (due to fireteam finder) so am I a bad player?

[hollow bronze]

a thread literally made for hyena

[tardy apex]

yea

[grand heron]

🦐

[chilly cedar]

how do I make a post saying no dumb people and get dumb people

[tardy apex]

idk

we need to blacklist hyena from every help post

that guys a re tard

[grand heron]

i think pedophiles are BAD

[flat gate]

👍

Good job

[mellow stirrup]

nah im a good guy

[tardy apex]

😭

[grand heron]

bad pedophile BAD!!

🐺

[chilly cedar]

.

no way he deleted the message

[wild owl]

What did he say 👀

[chilly cedar]

he said ur moms a hoe

now me personally

[hollow bronze]

Im sure your mother is a very nice woman

On the off chance she is a hoe, let me dm you my number.. if you could just slide it her way tha’d be cool 😎

Its a joke

Im joking

[polar fern]

[velvet radish]

Sigmas rise up

[dire oracle]

So true

[chilly cedar]

so stop helping tf

[dire oracle]

i am better than you

[chilly cedar]

dont cap hoe

[dire oracle]

observer i genuinely dont think ive played with many worse people than you

i am being 100% honest

[chilly cedar]

we've never played together 😭

[dire oracle]

i have played with you once and i will never again

[lean acorn]

i love helping even though i'm bad at it 🔥 🔥

[chilly cedar]

i dont remember asking

[velvet radish]

I'm going to sneak into every single activity you do and throw as hard as I can

[hollow bronze]

Im going to toggle friendly fire and destroy you in every lfg raid group youre in

When its time for dps, im going to stand in front of you and stare into your lifeless eyes as you rocket yourself

[chilly cedar]

coaches dont play

[warped oxide]

cause uhh umm uihhhh uwughh uhhh

[lean acorn]

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