what weapons to go for?

[wild spade]

Just wondering what weapons I should be grinding to get if that either helps me with raids or any popular pve content (dont care much for pvp) Thank you!

At the moment, Im mainly using witherhoard and lament exotics

[pliant estuary]

Priority in this order (primary) -

Wishender
Sunshot
Graviton Lance

[wild spade]

im missing wishender, but like this is a great example like I have the other two i just dont know when to use them

[pliant estuary]

Wishender is great primary dmg dealer, it has Anti-barrier built into too.

Sunshot and Lance are for ad clear fast

Situations where u need to kill lot of red bars

[wild spade]

ok gotcha

also sent you a screenshot in dms i have two lances idk whats the difference

@pliant estuaryany ideas about also meta armor exotics?

[pliant estuary]

which class

[wild spade]

kinda all 3 but im mainly running warlock rn

someone said ophidian gaunlet

so ive been just running that but idk

[pliant estuary]

it's good in PvP mostly, there are better gaunlets for PvE

[wild spade]

yea im mainly looking for pve

[pliant estuary]

Sunbraces

Contraverse Hold

Fallen Sunstar

For each subclass

[wild spade]

dont get any of those 😭

[pliant estuary]

Farm Legend Lost sectors if u are up to recommended power

[wild spade]

would i be fine to do them comftrably at pl 1804?

[pliant estuary]

yes

recommended is 1800

[wild spade]

oh man i dont even have my artifact things picked out

[urban reef]

Graviton? What

[pliant estuary]

Graviton Lance

[urban reef]

Yeah I have just never seen that in pve

[pliant estuary]

It used to be DogS before. Got massive buff recently.

[urban reef]

Yeah but do u use it as a exotic in raids?

[pliant estuary]

u can on void subclass for ad clear encounters, underused doesn't mean it's bad. I have actually seen it a lot on shreiker encounter in Crota's End.

[urban reef]

You want a rocket like apex or cruch apex you want crafted for crux just a good roll would do as it can't be crafted

[urban reef]

Riptide with chill clip is s tier for most content

[urban reef]

Malfeasance is the primary ammo goat

Rufus and acasias from ron are like the perfect duo

[fringe yoke]

If u have forsaken and you haven't already get izanagis, Le monarque and lumina

You have 3 free tokens are those are the best weapons from forsaken

[urban reef]

Lumina usage is down I would honestly recommend jotunn over it

[fringe yoke]

Bro what

Why??

[urban reef]

Jotunn has good usage in gms

Especially on seasons with fusion unstop

[fringe yoke]

I mean

Lumina grappling!

[urban reef]

25k damage with good and honestly presents itself as a op exotic for pve

[urban reef]

Why would u want to lumina grapple when the strand subclass makes tangles

[trail river]

just cause lumina usage is down doesnt mean it isnt good

it still provides a very nice damage boost as well as it heals

[urban reef]

its not better then jotunn tho

[trail river]

dont think you're gonna use jotunn in pve in all honesty

[urban reef]

Wdym

[trail river]

there are way better alternatives

[urban reef]

Its best in pve

jotunn is unreal this season

[trail river]

totally

[urban reef]

have u tested it?

It's good for scorch when playing solar

[trail river]

just use polaris lance lol

[wild spade]

gotcha ok

@urban reefalso what shotgun is used in last wish

i heard shotgun is usually meta

[urban reef]

do yo mean sunshot?

[trail river]

no lol

dawn chorus polaris lance is goated in gms

[ancient umbra]

probably heritage

heritage + oblation swap most likely

both roll with recon+dmg perk

[urban reef]

Slug shot guns are a dps meta alternative to rockets

[plucky prawn]

Slugs are used for kalli and shuro most people will slug swap + anarchy for mortgeth, and riven cheese is typically Lament

[wild spade]

Which slug weapon is it tho

And do they need a specific role

[plucky prawn]

Heritage, and Nessa's Oblation

Heritage you go for fluted barrel, assault mag, reconstruction, 4th column doesn't matter much but recombination if you REALLY care, and handling masterwork

Nessa's Oblation, you go for the same roll but 4th column you WANT vorpal

[fringe yoke]

How by much does vorpal boost damage on each weapon type

[plucky prawn]

I'm pretty sure it's 20 for primary, 15 for special, and 10 heavy

I'm gonna double check

Yea that's right

[trail river]

heritage first in last out

[plucky prawn]

FILO is only used for surge matching

[wild spade]

sadly dont have a good roll heritage

[urban reef]

Ita a good week for u then

[wild spade]

so just play deep stone crypt and shoot to get 5 red border heritages?

[urban reef]

Yep

But you might not like the slug

[wild spade]

wdym like i wont like the gun?

[urban reef]

Slugs are not for everyone

[wild spade]

gotcha ok

and is the heritage only really good for last wish? because i still need eagers edge sword and a lot of things to work toward so just trying to prioritize

[urban reef]

Last wish?

You can run anything in last wish?

Ive only ever used a slug a couple of times in lw

[trail river]

never used a slug in last wish

last wish is a raid where anything is viable 💀

[wild spade]

dam so then is getting a heritage even worth it

[trail river]

it is

in general its really good for majors

good example are the knights in vault

[wild spade]

gotcha ok, so deep stone is the raid for the week, what does that mean exactly?

[trail river]

it means that it is the raid of the week

that means you can farm it for exotic and the guns

[wild spade]

so like you can replay it over and over on the same character and still drop red borders every time?

[urban reef]

No

[trail river]

it doesnt drop red borders everytime its just you can replay it abunch for loot

[urban reef]

Only some times its rate

[trail river]

so probably farm atraks or taniks?

dont really know whats best to farm

[wild spade]

sorry im still a little confused, never really farmed or understood that stuff about raids

recently came back into the game coming from the red war

[trail river]

what're you confused about

[wild spade]

farming, how does it work? are u farming for red borders and if so do they have a chance to keep dropping if u rerun the same encounter

[urban reef]

U do the same encounter

[trail river]

you do the exact same encounter multiple times to have a chance at getting a red border item

you get 5 red borders of said item to craft it

[wild spade]

so if u dont completly finish the raid and only farm a single encounter on the same character, u can have a chance to drop red borders always?

[trail river]

just so u know i see what you said

[wild spade]

but if u finish the raid completly on that character then youll need to go to a diff one that hasnt finish the raid if u want to farm one encounter for red borders

[wild spade]

oh ok lol

[trail river]

you can fully complete the raid but people can choose to just do one encounter to hopefully get red border drops of the gun they want

it is suggested to finish the raid as raids past garden of salvation let you grab one red border weekly from the end of raid vendor

i believe you may grab 3 weekly on each character but i could be wrong

[wild spade]

so do the raid atleast fully once then on a different character dont do it completly but instead get to one encounter u want and farm over and over?

[trail river]

no lmao

[urban reef]

You have to save it on another character

[wild spade]

is there a video u can link that explains this as well cuz im really dumb

[urban reef]

I can explain it dms

[wild spade]

ok thank you

[urban reef]

Ezpz I just hate the bot here

[wild spade]

1 million %

[urban reef]

Like I write out a response and its 51 letters and it deletes my msg

[hallow badge]

Cut it into multiple small sentences.

[ancient umbra]

Recomend farming atraks

Its loot pool is armor or heritage+sucession

[oblique pawn]

1. Apex. 2. Commemoration. 3. Heritage. 4. Fatebringer. 5. Forbearance. 6. Cataclysmic. 7. Zaoli’s Bane. Imo.

In order of pure utility and value.

I would open all raid chests which totals to about 45 spoils per week regardless, if you also do VoG entrance for the 1st chest.

Then go in order of priority, LW weapons can be super easily farmed, took me like 30 hrs for all patterns.

VoW can be an issue for some ig but for those instances, i would just raid til the weapons drop, then open chests and use the ”whatever-they’re-called-to-extract-patterns-on-existing-weapons”.

Or just farm, depends how much you like raiding

[loud vault]

great list, but forbearance is more important than fatebringer

[plucky prawn]

Imo fatebringer should NOT be on that list 💀

[oblique pawn]

It’s one of the best legendary hand cannons if not the best for PvE and it’s super easy to get a good roll as well. Esp as a new player.

But i hardly use it anymore, besides the point i don’t use primaries hardly ever besides Trinity/Osteo/Sunshot. So you can easily substitute it for an exotic or just have a special do its job.

[oblique pawn]

Valid

[plucky prawn]

Sunshot 💀

[oblique pawn]

Ah good point, good point.

[urban reef]

No machine gun should be in the top 10 and why is fatebringer at 4

[plucky prawn]

What's your top 10

[urban reef]

Raid weapons only?

[plucky prawn]

Anything

[mossy bramble]

commemoration is definitely a top 10 weapon

[plucky prawn]

It's not

It's like top 15 or 20

It's definitely good but not good enough to be top 10

[mossy bramble]

I don't think most players took it off for gms last season, if I remember right from the nightfall report data

[urban reef]

Apex forberence heritage zaolis cataclysmic half truths that strand pellet with 1-2 from crota riptide rufus acasias

That was challenging

Also probably 11

[plucky prawn]

How 💀

[urban reef]

Acasias shreds bro

[plucky prawn]

No you said it was challenging

That's what I was looking at

[urban reef]

Idk Its hard to think of all those guns

Acasias out dpses some machine guns and I love that

[plucky prawn]

I find that hard to believe

[urban reef]

Thunderlord was #1 for usage on crota and ron for 3 weeks last season

[plucky prawn]

That's not a gm

[urban reef]

No its just proving that the people who use these things the most probably are not the best but also last season it was ov machine guns with a alternative of hcs and hcs overload stun sucked

[fringe yoke]

I'm going to kill you sunshot is actually amazing

[plucky prawn]

Yea I know, thats what I meant