does wish ender have barier and unstop rounds.Wish ender exotic perk-barier rounds

[drifting topaz]

this season artifact-unstop rounds for bows so does the weapon have both(i dont have wish ender thats why im asking)

[analog finch]

no it doesnt

a weapon can only ever have 1 anti champion capability

[warm raven]

Riptide

[analog finch]

applied effects are different

[drifting topaz]

then what if u equip unstop for bows and wish ender has build in barier which will it be_

?

[analog finch]

barrier

intrinsic > seasonal artifact > buffed

if it has intrinsic it cant get anything else

if it doesnt it can be influenced by the artifact

and if it has neither of the 2 you can buff yourself (volatile rounds/radiant/unraveling rounds) to get an anti champ effect

[drifting topaz]

damn

this seasons artifact/ anti champ weapons are trash

[rotund rain]

No

They are amazing

[drifting topaz]

wdym?\

who uses sidearms?

[rotund rain]

any solar weapon now can stun barriers

[rotund rain]

Thats a nerf for sidearms tbh getting barrier champs in artifacts limits things

[drifting topaz]

u gotta be raidiant to do that which requires a build

[rotund rain]

No the artifact allows you to go radient on any subclass

[analog finch]

the build being having ember of torches, which if you are running solar you should always

[analog finch]

that, too

[rotund rain]

This artifact has the most anti champ stuns of any artifact in destiny history

I don't think we have had a better artifact

[analog finch]

overload rocket launcher being the best of all ever

[drifting topaz]

wish ender zaulis bane and hot head are prolly the best anti champ build{correct me if im wrong}

[drifting topaz]

agreed

[rotund rain]

Putting 3 weapons on overload the hardest to stun and leaving the 2 easy champs

[rotund rain]

You do not need 3 weapons to stun barriers

If your gonna run wishender don't run other barrier stunners

[rotund rain]

Autorifle overload stays easier

[drifting topaz]

no wish ender barier,zaulis-unstop hothead-overload

[analog finch]

that will always depend on the activity you are running, there is no one build for all kinda thing

[drifting topaz]

true but for me personaly this is the beset build for engame activitys this season

[rotund rain]

If your using overload rocket your doing something wrong

[drifting topaz]

got a better idea?

[analog finch]

there is also very few activities that have all champs, usually just 2 kinds at a time

[rotund rain]

We have yet to have gms but even when we do there will only be 2 champs

[drifting topaz]

i play master weekly mission with my friend and there were all 3

[rotund rain]

You probably should not all 3 be running all 3 barrier stun mods only one person needs overload and 2 unstop

Barrier champs don't matter as they suck

[drifting topaz]

yes but if they use their shield?

[rotund rain]

Don't rely on your guns for champ stun if you don't have too

[rotund rain]

It can be stunned by one of 400+ options

[analog finch]

if you are running with someone else you can just split the champs up between you, so you can run a special weapon aswell

[rotund rain]

Double primary is awful in endgame

[drifting topaz]

so what do you recommend running when doing solo legend lost sectors for this season{could you please provide both unstop and overload builds}

[rotund rain]

Hothead is not thrifty on reserves so if your running 2 primarys each champion will take significantly longer

[rotund rain]

What subclass

[analog finch]

what character?

[rotund rain]

And class

[drifting topaz]

warlock

[rotund rain]

Stasis warlock can stun unstop and overload just with turrets

[drifting topaz]

subclass-void solar strand

[rotund rain]

But you seem to be under the mind set that your going to have a lost sector build that fits all

[analog finch]

strand, osteo, suspend build (wanderer and the nade eater aspects)

heavy use commemoration, and special something for whatever you want

[drifting topaz]

ye I just wanna complete some legend lost sectors to get rank 8

[rotund rain]

Nade eating got nerfed so bad

[rotund rain]

Then adapt

In destiny its important to adapt

[drifting topaz]

wouldnt thorn be better

[drifting topaz]

ikr

[rotund rain]

Thorn is not a pve gun

[drifting topaz]

can be

[analog finch]

if you really wanna run thorn, it works i guess, but osteo is jusst better for pve

[rotund rain]

Thorn will not help much in a. Legend/master gamemode

[drifting topaz]

saw a guy soloing a gm with thorn and a bow just for bariers{it was last season}

[analog finch]

dont try and copy those guys, they are different from you, they can make anything work

[rotund rain]

You can use anything but as is osteostriga is still one of the best pve guns in the game and thorn isn't worth a exotic slot in pve

Don't copy youtube or tiktok or google builds

[drifting topaz]

i know im just saying that i like long range weapons

more

[analog finch]

lost sectors are pretty close range

[rotund rain]

Same with most endgame content

[drifting topaz]

i sometimes inspire myself since i dont realy know what works well and what doesent

[rotund rain]

Youtube and tiktok tends to have the worst builds that mislead new players

[drifting topaz]

well i inspired myself once and got a pretty op voidwalker build

[rotund rain]

Someone from my clan sent me a video yesterday that claimed to be the best solar titan build but when you check the build it had fonts and scavenger s

[rotund rain]

I use voidwalker in gms

They are pretty op with briar binds

[drifting topaz]

so you agree vortex nades are superior to solar nades?

[rotund rain]

Huh

Solar warlock stands to be one of the strongest kits in the game

[drifting topaz]

no i mean the grandes

vortex grandes are better that solar granades

[rotund rain]

Definitely not and especially not with this artifact

Solar nades last longer do more damage

With shorter cooldown times

[drifting topaz]

then why do you use voidwalkers in gms over solar warlocks

[rotund rain]

I mean honestly I prefer skatter nades over vortex

[rotund rain]

Void surges and also briar binds is kinda op

But I don't use vortexs

[drifting topaz]

then what do you use?

[rotund rain]

I don't use just one build

It depends on the surges

[drifting topaz]

yes but what are your favorite void nades?

[coral terrace]

scatter

vortex

that’s it

[rotund rain]

Void warlock has like the worst nades

I mean they all have the same ones

Vortex nades are good in early game content

With practice on briar bindes you can get 12 souls out at once healing you

[drifting topaz]

i would like to use a solar build but i cant get to sunbracers to drop

[rotund rain]

Just do vex incursions

Or lost sectors today but even then lost sectors suck

[drifting topaz]

i see vex incursion happen like 1 time every 2 weeks

[rotund rain]

Are you in a discord

[drifting topaz]

?

other than that i dont have time

[rotund rain]

There are discards that give incursion notifications

[drifting topaz]

where tho?

[rotund rain]

Just google it

[drifting topaz]

vex network???

[rotund rain]

Yep

[drifting topaz]

also this may be a weird question but what is ur guradian rank?

[rotund rain]

11 last season 7 currently

Seven is the current cap

But seven is also the last guardian rank that actually matters

[drifting topaz]

wait the why did i see people with 10 and 11?

[rotund rain]

I would recommend against attempting to go past 7 before getting into endgame content and doing other stuff before hand

[rotund rain]

It stays for 1 extra season

[drifting topaz]

oh ok

[rotund rain]

Guardian rank is meaningless. It does not mean that you're good at the game I think that's much of a misconception

[drifting topaz]

i know im just asking

[rotund rain]

Some of the final requirements are absolutely ridiculous. There is one that takes 12 weeks and every single other exotic you can obtain in the game.

And u have to solo most recent dungeon

7 total titles

Every raid cleared

Every seasonal challenge

200 blue accommodations from endgame activities

[drifting topaz]

well still if u have a rank more that 8 u are concidered a someon w

who is very good

[rotund rain]

No

[drifting topaz]

not very but good

[rotund rain]

It just means you grinded guardian rank

[glad yoke]

nah i’ve seen some bad 11’s

[drifting topaz]

u gotta solo 5 Lost sectors

[rotund rain]

I had 1000 hours on my first season and hit guardian. Rank 11 on my second season

[rotund rain]

That's not even one of the hard requirements

[drifting topaz]

i know

[rotund rain]

You also need every DLC and dungeon in the game

[drifting topaz]

yes you do

[rotund rain]

But overall guardian rank, 11 is meaningless

I only got it because of the funny gun glitch

[drifting topaz]

ok

[rotund rain]

It's her players account with countless hours

I Sherpa for my clan at least 20 times weekly so it comes really easy to me

But I also play 10 hours a day

[drifting topaz]

what does that mean?

[rotund rain]

It does not depict game knowledge or overall skill

[rotund rain]

I teach every raid and dungeon to people in my clan

I help with endgame

[drifting topaz]

could you help me do warlords ruin with me sometime

[rotund rain]

What's your power level?

[drifting topaz]

1800 with artifact 1805

[rotund rain]

Probably, you can hop me a DM

[drifting topaz]

ok

[rotund rain]

Also u should check out #find-a-sherpa

[drifting topaz]

i mean u do the actual dungeon with me

[rotund rain]

Yes, I would but there are also plenty of other sherpas

I tend to be on the less experienced side for WR

As i started making the builds to solo the dungeon

[drifting topaz]

could i tell u smth in DMs?

[rotund rain]

Sure

[warm raven]

Crazy how solar is the best on all 3 subclasses besides maybe titan

[rotund rain]

What are you on? Hunter is void and arc and warlock is solar strand stasis and titan has always been solar and stays solar for pve

[warm raven]

Void hunter mid

Arc is great but solar is above for me

And strand titan is better then solar atm

[rotund rain]

Void hunter is insane

[warm raven]

Omnis are the best thing about it

[rotund rain]

Debatable I think strand is better for team play

[warm raven]

For solo content I would rather use strand then solar

[rotund rain]

YOS nerf kinda killed solar hunter

[warm raven]

And solar hunter ended up getting 3 different buffs that are all great

Ohidiha sphate or however you spell it is great now

Shards is amazing for content with lots of chunky targets

And celestial is now literally the best DPS in the game

[rotund rain]

Single shot dps

[warm raven]

Yeah

[rotund rain]

Big difference

[warm raven]

You can delete most of anything in the game with just a few nighthawks

But that's not the point anyways

Solar is eating good and I haven't even mentioned using cowl on solar

[rotund rain]

Omni void builds are still more consistent then solar and arc

[warm raven]

The thing about perma Invis is that you can't do anything while invisible

I'd rather nuke the battlefield then be invisible and not do anything

[rotund rain]

Might I ask what kind of content you play most?

[warm raven]

I kinda wanna open a thread on this I'm interested

[warm raven]

Last thing I did was last wish

I played solar hunter through most of it

[rotund rain]

Hmm yeah that makes a lot of sense

Last wish is extremely power crept

But solar hunter feels like such a glass cannon in gms

And solo dungeons

And master content

[warm raven]

I imagine that omnis are meta in gms but I wouldn't imagine using it anywhere else

[rotund rain]

Also amazing in master raids and dungeons

[warm raven]

Master raids?

[rotund rain]

Yes

[warm raven]

Is that for tether or is the Invis useful in master raids

[rotund rain]

Both

[warm raven]

Mm okay

Arc is still better then void though anyways cause of cowl

[rotund rain]

Btw omni isn't the most common hunter exotic

[rotund rain]

Assassins cowl is only good in 1600 content when solo

[warm raven]

I see it as the most effective void exotic

[warm raven]

That's crazy what

[rotund rain]

It simply isn't

Cowl does not work in 6 player activities and 3 player

[warm raven]

Why??

[rotund rain]

By 1600 content I mean stuff with 1 shot ads

[rotund rain]

You can't proc invis

[warm raven]

I haven't done master raids but I have done master lost sectors you can still kill ads

[rotund rain]

Its harder

[warm raven]

Idk if it equates
L

[rotund rain]

It only benefits yourself also

Arc hunter sees no play in raids

With cowl

Cowl is a good exotic for solo it's definitely the best solo exotic in the game

Its the same as lorally splender on solar titan

[warm raven]

I guess but idk I see it as the best hunter exotic besides SES and celestial now too

[rotund rain]

Thats because you seem to have only done solo low level content

But in endgame things change

[warm raven]

Solar hunter will always be the best in my heart 😔

[rotund rain]

Solar hunter is great

Its just only good for things like kalli

[warm raven]

I see it as the most used hunter class in endgame

Because of how much DPS it outputs

[rotund rain]

It is the 3rd most used

[warm raven]

3rd most used hunter class or just subclass?

[rotund rain]

I believe blade barrage outputs more dammage

Last season it did

Idk how big the buff does

[warm raven]

Right now I'm pretty sure nighthawk does better than it

[rotund rain]

Arc void solar strand stasis

Let me check

800k

Its the highest dps single in the game and does more then blade birage

Wait

[rotund rain]

You have to hit all knives

[warm raven]

On blade barrage?

[rotund rain]

Yep

[warm raven]

Ooo

I mean celestial is still better but I didn't know that

[rotund rain]

I have never seen selestial used in end game ngl

[warm raven]

It just got buffed this season that's probably why

[rotund rain]

No even then it has no other utilities

[warm raven]

Huh

[rotund rain]

Nobody uses celestial over bb because celestial would be good on smaller bosses like kali but when solar hunter gets swarmed its the worst kit in the game

It has no out

Blade barroge is usefull because you can jump up and wipe a area

I mean 800k is only gonna proove usefull on kalli

But raids dungeons and gms besides kalli who we bug has a long mechanic before hand

For celestial to do 800k in general requires setup

[warm raven]

Isn't it just doing what you should be doing for DPS

Being radiant and using surges

With buffs and debuffs

[rotund rain]

Yes in this insurance blade birage does more

The benifet of celesial is some bosses with small crit points take increasing dammage

[warm raven]

I know kalli has the multiplier and all

But I swear they at least do equal damage

[rotund rain]

I was wrong

Celestial is the best super in the game

[warm raven]

That's what I'm saying

[rotund rain]

However in order for it to be the best super in the game

It gives you bad dps

Because apex will do more then 800k with surges

[warm raven]

How can't you just pre pop before a phase and waste barely any time

[rotund rain]

Kinetic surges are not worth using

With celestial u have a 800k single shot

Then apex shots doing 140k

With blade birage you can have a 450k super with 230k dammage rockets

[warm raven]

Can you switch surges during DPS?

[warm raven]

If you don't use surges does it still do more damage then barrage w SES

[rotund rain]

It resets your orbs

[rotund rain]

Not even close

[warm raven]

Damn

[rotund rain]

330k without those kinetic surges

[warm raven]

The surges are only 17% damn

[rotund rain]

But blade birage after all the swords go off can go upto 700k with 4x feast

That is why you do not see celestial in gms or master raids

Plus if u miss or don't crit

Ur gonna have a problem

[warm raven]

Is using the aegis spreadsheet a bad idea

[rotund rain]

Honestly the spreadsheet is the only way to make celestial look better

Because celestial is going to only show better in small bosses

[wind blade]

💀💀

[toxic wing]

no dont use aegis hes like the worst destiny player fr

[warm raven]

Well if you say so!

[rotund rain]

Lol

[rotund rain]

They were joking