can anyone suggest a good solar primary weapon

[lunar tendon]

Tryna run well of radiance with internative loop and i need a good solar primary to go with harmonic syphon

(Could be exotic)

[empty drum]

calus mini tool

sunshot

no survivors
polaris lance
devils ruin

tyranny of heaven

[steep harness]

I like zaoulis bane from kings fall

[young skiff]

sunshot

always sunshot

[steep harness]

Conditional finality + zaoulis (legendary sunshot) is peak Solar gaming

[crystal hedge]

you can triple solar with conditional/any solar/apex

[frigid turtle]

Hierarchy of needs

[karmic beacon]

Sunshot is so amazing oh my god

It's so good it's worth using on other subclasses that aren't solar

It's like prolly top 3 best ad clear exotic primarys that I can think of

[sand lichen]

My top 3: Sunshot, Zaouli's Bane, I also do love Ticuu's and it holds up in GMs as well (unlike eg. Trinity Ghoul).

[mild spindle]

Just no

Rest of the list was good go get the strike or nightfall bow if you want a solar bow though stay away from tyranny 😂

[karmic beacon]

Death adder lmao

[mild spindle]

You were cooking then you added salt to a fancy dessert with the death adder

[karmic beacon]

[frigid isle]

Jotunn is nasty in pve

[karmic beacon]

Jotuun preimere DPS

[lunar tendon]

The problem is all of these weapons are energy slot which is also internative loop

[jolly thunder]

All solar weapons will be in the energy/heavy slot unless it comes from Osmosis or the new perk, Permeability

[rich badge]

They are energy for a reason...

[pallid halo]

Like exostrech said, solar weapons are energy weapons. You wont have a solar energy weapon in your top slot. Top slot is for kinetic, strand and stasis.

Primary refers to the ammo type not the damage type

I suggest running the aforementioned solar primaries with something like heritage or sum like that

[fiery mesa]

I could be wrong but im pretty sure permeability only rolls on energy/heavy weapons

And out of all the weapons with Osmosis the only one that really jumps out to me is fatebringer

So yea do what exo said

[rich badge]

Do not use a kinetic with osmosis or the new perk

It littarly makes the weapon worse

Bc kinetics do more dmg than energys

[young skiff]

so you are saying to use a normal energy weapon, which just base does less damage than kinetics?

[rich badge]

I'm saying to not use kinetics with osmosis or the new perk bc it littarly makes them do less dmg

[young skiff]

yeah, but an osmosis kinetic does the same damage as a normal energy weapon when osmosis procced

and if you use a kinetic with osmosis, first off you can use an energy special (which are generally better) and you have the versatility between kinetic and energy primary in the same weapon

[rich badge]

What

Why would u nerf urself on purpose

So u want to waste a perk and do less dmg so u can do what exactly with the element?

And u don't even have 100% uptime on it

So if ur using it for anything u can't even half the time

And how are energy special better most of the time

Witherhoard, izanagi, supremacy, heritage

Energy only has like forbearance

[young skiff]

forbearance, plug 1, cartesian, nessas, ikelos SG, empty vessel, wilderflight, toaster, erianas, merciless

iterative loop

[fiery mesa]

I never said "use it" i said "these are your options if you want to use it"

Osmosis is a bad perk i would take any energy weapon with incan over it for solar

[rich badge]

There's like extact counterparts in kinetic slot to the fusions

Aswell as the gls

And straight up better versions of the shotguns

And there's noway u just said toaster erianas and iterative loop is good

[rich badge]

Yeah all good I just said that it even decreases dmg

And now where here arguing if its good

Lol

True Energy primarys are usually also just better

[fiery mesa]

Yea cause they have synergistic perks

Like incan, repulsor, voltshot, destab rounds, etc

Not saying all of those perks are bangers or must haves, but theyre better than most kinetic equivalents

Except maybe kinetic tremors

[rich badge]

Yeah and stuff like sunshot

[fiery mesa]

Well thats exotic

I was thinking of legendary weapons

[rotund delta]

only contentder for energy primaries is submission

[fiery mesa]

But yeah sunshot and tghoul are just busted

[rich badge]

That's exactly the reason why u would use them

[fiery mesa]

Too bad void doesnt have a mass adclear exotic

[rich badge]

And not take them out of a comparison

[fiery mesa]

Closest thing to it is graviton lance

[rich badge]

Grav is pretty good

[rotund delta]

graviton lance?

[fiery mesa]

Its good but not on the level of sunshot or tghoul imo

You cant use it on any subclass on any build and have profit

[rich badge]

But maybe to give the post any answer

Just use another fusion in the kinetic slot

[median oar]

Le Monarque is a good void ad clear, Area DoT+healing if you hit crits. Plus intrinsic overload.

[rich badge]

And use sunshot

[rich badge]

Is it really fast ad clear tho?

[median oar]

If the trash mobs are grouped up, ye. Its a bit harder to use than sunshot or trinity since you need to crit in order to get off the area poison.

Think the poison also procs volatile explosions.

[fiery mesa]

Le monarque excels in activities with higher enemy health like gms whereas grav excels in activities with high enemy density

The first point especially because of intrinsic overload

I would only really use le monarque if i was doing a gm on void subclass (like gyrfalcon hunter or smth similar)

Cause the problem with it having intrinsic overload is that there are so many things that trigger overload

Slow (chill clip, osmiomancy turrets), jolt (voltshot, any arc nade)

Suppression (tractor, etc.)

Yes you could use le monarque for overload.
But you could also just use a riptide, or an arc nade, or tractor

Not to mention gms tend to feature anti barrier or unstop more than overload

Atleast recently

[median oar]

I mean that's what the Area DoT is for, high density situations.

[rich badge]

I love this server man

It's so entertaining

Destiny players will make a 12page documentary out of any simple question

[fiery mesa]

Of course

[median oar]

And yes, lots of sources for overload, I run riptide for the most part but lemon having it is just a nice extra to have on top of the ad clear potential.

[fiery mesa]

Wouldnt it be better to add a second anti champ option aside from overload though?

Well i guess riptide stops both overload and unstop (and anti barrier somewhat)

[rich badge]

U also have abilitys

Running solar is a free antibarrier

And kinda unstop

Arc is free overload

Stasis and strand is kinda evrything

And void is uhh

Surely void also has free access to something

[median oar]

For sure, it just depends on the activity in the end. For GMs at least, you only really need to cover two types. Plus riptide does everything.

[fiery mesa]

Void has overload with suppression

[rich badge]

Yeah but when do u use suppression nade

U could argue barrier with volitile rounds tho

[fiery mesa]

I dont. I use tractor

Tractor debuff counts as suppression and stuns overload

Not entirely sure but i think the same applies to tether

[rich badge]

yeah ofc but that not from a void subclass

thats from a weapon