Worst overall pve exotic (armor and weapon)?

[waxen cave]

I be thinking either promethium spur or citans but let's argue anyway

[verbal sigil]

Apotheosis veil and Chromatic Fire are contenders

[mellow tide]

apotheosis veil

[verbal sigil]

and any exotic trace excluding the arc one

[mellow tide]

dang

or antaeus in pve

[waxen cave]

Imo apo doesn't really contend cause it doesn't make your kit worse in any way it just doesn't do much good

[verbal sigil]

with that argument promethium is the same

[mellow tide]

spurs at least chain healing

[waxen cave]

Ig

[verbal sigil]

and yeah, antaeus is less useful than citans

[mellow tide]

apotheosis is "boost to abilities you aren't using when you super"

idk what drunk dev wrote that

[verbal sigil]

titans new chests piece that allows u to throw the barricade 🗣️

[waxen cave]

Adds an animation but if you prep you can get ranged suspend/overshield

[verbal sigil]

mask of the quiet one

[mellow tide]

borealis

[waxen cave]

Borealis def contends

I vouch for mask of the quiet one cause the healing is decent and the ability Regen can be good on stasis

[verbal sigil]

the healing literally just gets you out of critical

and nothing more than that

[waxen cave]

It's doesn't worsen your kit and gives a passive benefit

Thinking behind citans and kinda spur was that it just worsens your kit for the most oart

[mellow tide]

havent tried it, is prospector good?

[verbal sigil]

no exotic worsens your kit then use celestail nighthawk on spectral blades

[waxen cave]

It got chain reaction so it's not that bad for ad clear

[verbal sigil]

yeah prospector was used to cheese riven when there was nothing better, and it's only been buffed since then

[waxen cave]

Citans just gives your barricade less health and longer cooldown for something that doesn't do much in pve

[verbal sigil]

antaeus makes you waste your barricade for sliding at all. and dodging damage with it is highly ineffective

[waxen cave]

I didn't think of Antaeus initially tbh

I gotta put truth and darci on blast though

[verbal sigil]

severance enclosure maybe aswell

[waxen cave]

Truth is like the worst rocket in the game and darci does the damage of a special rapid fire

[verbal sigil]

Explosion on finisher or charged melee kill

darci jolts, so I'd say truth is worse

[mellow tide]

no that exotic is good now

i'm voting borealis and antaeus/apotheosis

[waxen cave]

I can't call severance the worst

Antaeus is prob worst armor and weapon is between Borealis and truth imo

[rocky ocean]

Wavesplitter is actually quite good for a trace too since almost constant orb uptime (supercharged battery). It's just a forgotten child

[dire phoenix]

apoth veil is good

[dire phoenix]

Navigator is really good as well

[verbal sigil]

"apotheosis good" 💀

brother in christ who paid you to say that

and I was only thinking of energy traces. not agers scepter, navigator, or coldheart

[dire phoenix]

Cold heart is energy

[dire phoenix]

you get all your abilities back on super

if you’re not on well theres no better exotic for dps for lock

[verbal sigil]

Lunas? holy what are you talking

Yea i love to get my rift back after placing well, so useful 💀

[dire phoenix]

yeah man thats the job for the guy on well

You are an absolute burger

stick to the lfg ron tlord dps

[normal badger]

jade and citans

[limber ridge]

citans/antaeus are both horrible

[limber ridge]

you get debuff nade/grapple/strand melees back 💀 can be very useful

[normal badger]

😭

[dire phoenix]

Ok fine outside of your goofy little speeds

[normal badger]

[dire phoenix]

i forgot about verities but oph doesn’t increase luna well and rof is solar u just luna well and swap

[normal badger]

all 4 of those exotics are better for damage than apo

[limber ridge]

unless ur using merci, then ig u could rof not on solar

[normal badger]

[rancid raptor]

[limber ridge]

lance?

[dire phoenix]

use them for dps

[rancid raptor]

Best exotic

[dire phoenix]

you can throw them at the boss

[ruby whale]

Kid named Broodweaver weavewalk rotations

[quiet basin]

Crest of alpha lupi

[ruby whale]

It’s sort of usable in GMs where you need to have well/bubble to live

I remember a heist bg Europa run where we looped CoAL bubble and 2 wells and that was enough to clear out the adds

Mind you it’s still terrible, might be one of the worst titan exotics, but it does SOMETHING

[dire phoenix]

Insaw it in yourube very good kalli fsrmijg u do folden gub huhters star eater scale🔥🔥🔥

[fathom lagoon]

Sanguine alchemy and vigilance wing

[fathom lagoon]

Your talking to the destiny debate class champ

[dire phoenix]

who?

[fathom lagoon]

Aegis

He is the literary the dps test guy

[dire phoenix]

hmm i gotta check him out

[fathom lagoon]

He the dude with the massive sheet with all the dps

I made the mistake of trying to debate him once

[dire phoenix]

My dps is pretty good

[fathom lagoon]

Tread carefully

[dire phoenix]

I think i’ll be fine

[arctic crest]

Literally a meta exotic, just niche usage

Also has anyone said Darci yet

[dire phoenix]

Its good for the ghosts of the deep boss cheese

Because u can see her HP

[arctic crest]

[arctic crest]

I checked ur raid report, don’t talk to me again until you get your clears up lil bro

[dire phoenix]

i checked your lowman report do not talk to me until you get your duo vog clears up buddy

[thin oasis]

prolly raiden flux or ophidia spathe

[arctic crest]

Duo vog more like poouo vog

[arctic crest]

🔥gas those are both terrible

[dire phoenix]

Duo gk is so fun 🥺

Let me teach you

[arctic crest]

let me teach you duo gos 1st encounter

[dire phoenix]

@dry crystal please teach me the secret tether spots 🧑‍🍳

[arctic crest]

just make a line 4head

[fathom lagoon]

Wait no

Deterministic chaos is the worst exotic

[dire phoenix]

i used that thing in day 1 ron

we were able to clear the first encounter

[fathom lagoon]

Doesn't its exotic trait do what every void weapon does

[dire phoenix]

Idk

All i know is i didnt clear day 1 ron🔥🔥

[fathom lagoon]

Lol

[dire phoenix]

too hard for me at that time

my team quit at scission

[arctic crest]

brt lore

[dire phoenix]

its okay i have numerous clears in the trio master kings fall departments

i have since emotionally recovered

thats a lie

[verbal sigil]

[thin oasis]

its not terrible its just mediocre

theres a million other things you could use over it but its not terrible

[arctic crest]

Idk it is kinda terrible

Bad damage bad utility bad reserves

[thin oasis]

eh i'm just coping cause i bought the ornament and havent used it since

[fathom lagoon]

Darci is def the worst heavy tho

[ruby whale]

DChaos is the best heavy exotic out of the terrible heavy exotics that are just legendaries

[arctic crest]

dchaos just straight up worse than legendary machine guns out here

[mellow tide]

How

[arctic crest]

wym how or u just wanna know where its used

[mellow tide]

Yeah
I'm not feeling hype for getting a rift every 4 minutes

[arctic crest]

So like I said, niche, but on nez for example, solo void warlock gets two weaken nades allowing you two have debuff for the whole dps which makes damage insanely free

when you super you get abilities back so you throw weaken nade, dps, right before weaken runs out super, then nade again and finish dps

With team mates that doesn’t matter cause you probably have someone on tractor or tether, but if you’re doing a boss fight by yourself, you get double weaken nades on warlock which is fantastic

Useless in most of the game, insanely strong in rare niche circumstance

[quiet basin]

Same reason void titan is good in day 1 raids and solo bosses

[green solar]

Wicked Implement
Blight Ranger

[arctic crest]

People actually use implement

[waxen cave]

Isn't implement like not bad in gms

[lusty cliff]

anteus

[granite whale]

DARCI

[lusty cliff]

darci atleast

has a few usecases

[arctic crest]

Hello rodwaffle

[sage token]

For pve, Vigilance Wing, literally exotic perk is “has 5 burst”

[verbal sigil]

nah darci and truth are both worse in pve

[visual turret]

Iirc at one point in time when linears > rockets, truth was actually top for dps but rockets were a sleeper pick that nobody wanted to use

[night comet]

Sanguine alchemy and mida multi tool

[visual turret]

severance enclosure is the worst titan exotic

[verbal sigil]

not even close in pve. look at antaeus wards

[visual turret]

i will do an entire raid and succeed with just antaeus on and then i will go and use severance and i will lose the raid watch me

[sour solar]

Jade rabbit and the helmet that improves your blink on warlock

[ruby whale]

Astrocyte is peak

Blink is kind of crap but it does have uses like chicanery in crotas end or bypassing lasers in Seraph Shield

[sour solar]

Mmm ur right

[thin oasis]

if you're good with blink you're good at destiny

[limber ridge]

@final summit

[thin lodge]

Weapon has to go to darci

[sour solar]

Jade rabbit

I would rather use darci then jade rabbit

[thin lodge]

The issue with Darci is it takes your heavy slot for how bad it is 😭

Jade is at leasy only a kinetic and meant for pvp

[verbal sigil]

But at least it jolts

so It could have value

unlike jade rabbit, it has nothing special besides headseeker as a perk

and you can argue the same with truth and maybe even prospector

[edgy verge]

manticore most useless weapon of al time

[dire phoenix]

Div

[barren cliff]

wavesplitter is god tier with void artefacts

should be next season rotation aswell should be void aswell

[verbal sigil]

2 shoulds in your argument so it's invalid

[gray python]

YO have you tried it again

[verbal sigil]

bro this post was made before the "buffs" were in the game

[thin oasis]

Factual 😭

Gun forces you to fly and it still ends up being dog

[sour solar]

I should get a 4x surge for void weapon while airborne sounds balanced to me

And 50% DR

And devour just for being airborne

[visual turret]

Make it a strand weapon and have it suspend enemies in a small radius around you while your in the air

[sour solar]

Imagine that in pvp

[visual turret]

You’d have to get real close for it to work in pvp at which point you’d just get shotgunned

[sour solar]

It wouldn't be good but it would be funny

[waxen cave]

Honestly just debate here every season considering changes that happen

It'll be fun

[sour solar]

Yeah

Being airborne is like the 2nd worst thing you can do besides waiting for enemy's to melee you

[quartz timber]

Gjally the worst weapon, and sunbracers/synthos the worst armor

It’s obvious

[thin lodge]

In proprotion a heavy just jolting I think os worse than jade cause jade is at least only a kinetic and can just sot back and chip

Darci also does next to no dmg a shot

[visual turret]

You guys forget that final warning exists. Literally has 0 pve useage

[ruby whale]

Wrong actually

[thin lodge]

Again at least its not a heavy

[ruby whale]

It gives me nostalgia for titanfall 2

So if I ever want to experience clinical depression I can just use final warning in a patrol zone where it OHKOs every enemy

[thin oasis]

Bait

[visual turret]

What have you used it for so far?

[thin oasis]

Boss dps

[visual turret]

Bait

[thin oasis]

Only on hunter tho

Charged shots unravel so it's nice lol

[visual turret]

💀

[verbal sigil]

Yeah I agree with reap 💀

[thin oasis]

Well don't knock it til you try it ig lol

[waxen cave]

Final warning is useful when you need a strand debuff for artifact mod and don't have/can't run strand

[thin oasis]

^

[visual turret]

I’ve never needed to debuff anything using strand.

Severing an enemy means they deal 15% less damage to you. I dont need that, i can move and hide and heal.

Unravel is just a tiny bit of extra dmg

I dont really need either of those things.

[waxen cave]

"for artifact mod"

[sour solar]

All my homies hate the cryatatsycnacnes facade

[arctic crest]

#559101450932846603

[sour solar]

Gtfo of here

[outer vale]

#559101450932846603

[mellow tide]

cracked resilience is fun
and you can yeet in/out of a pile, dodge and kill everything
and any strand kills spawns the beyblade of doom

[willow rune]

darci, it’s so bad i almost feel bad for it genuinely lmao

[thin oasis]

Nah Darci meta trust

[sour solar]

Mida multi tool

[daring inlet]

no

you need mida for parkour and darci for range testing hoe

the most useless exotic is hard is the queenbreaker

because theres no queen to be broken since its just a linear

[thin lodge]

You don't need Darci to range test it's nice to be able to put a number on a hand cannon 3 tap but you just do it and not get a number of meters

Darci has 0 right to be a heavy

[daring inlet]

dont cap hoe you needed Darci to see taniks health for solo

soloing a raid boss automatically puts it in s tier.

[thin lodge]

you dont need to do that though its just nice to see how much he has left not needed 😛

[fathom lagoon]

it does 50k with surges

nvm

Headshot
35871.43 with well surges reserves reloaders

[daring inlet]

i dont remember asking

[thin lodge]

I dont remember asking for your input did it stop you 😛

[dire phoenix]

feeling pretty stupid now huh

id say apotheosis is pretty good now

Very good team utility

No need to be selfish in the big 25

This is a team game afterall

[quiet basin]

Ur trolling brother

[dense musk]

Only team players would understand 😔

[dire phoenix]

people nowdays would never extend a debuff for their fellow fireparty

[visual turret]

Imagine teaming

Imagine having friends to play with in 2025