#Whisper of the worm or sleeper stimulant?

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past trench
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calm owl
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in what context?

past trench
calm owl
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whisper is better for total damage, sleeper is better dps

past trench
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cause i heard and seen both do really good damage against bosses but idk what would be better

calm owl
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but in all fairness, both are not that great in current meta

past trench
calm owl
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yes, and with a total of like 14 shots or whatever it runs out quick, too

past trench
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uh huh

past trench
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btw this is also for precision bosses like oryx and such

calm owl
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atm, its rockets for quick dps, or linears/levi with catalyst for more sustained dps

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but you can never go wrong with a good rocket/rocket swap dps loadout

past trench
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well i dont have a bait and switch rocket yet and was just looking for a exotic i dont have that is good

calm owl
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you dont need a bait and switch rocket

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hothead, crafted bump, crafted apex, the dungeon rocket or basically any really at this point do great dps

past trench
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i do have hothead, just wanted to see if those two could possibly be good dps for boses like oryx

calm owl
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yes, as in they do acceptable damage, but there are better options

past trench
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that being a regular linear?

calm owl
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a well rolled linear like cataclysmic, or levi with catalyst, but you can also use rockets against oryx

past trench
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also does a crafted taipan work?

calm owl
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taipan works, but with the nerfs to veist stinger cataclysmic is better

past trench
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i only have one cataclysmic with bad rolls so eh

calm owl
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yeah okay, then probably not that one

past trench
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ill work with the taipan for now

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but for now which of the two is better

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cause i can just use it for fun or something

calm owl
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i would probably use sleeper, for the feel of it

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and with the current heavy economy you will be able to get all ammo back between dps phases

past trench
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ok very good thx

smoky marsh
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leviathans breath imo does wonders for most bosses

past trench
smoky marsh
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well since it works off of precision hits im pretty sure itll be good for oryx, and what not if you wanted stuff for precision

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because its catalyst is archers tempo, however without precision or without a divinity user with you rockets should be go to

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for starters you can pick up a nice one from the crucible vendor something with explosive light and whatnot, or go for good ol hothead

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also seen some usage for LMGs over linears for bosses such as the tormentor in the DD mission or even on raid bosses as a more consistent form of DPS for bosses that move around alot

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it depends alot on you but id say rockets and levi breath based on situation

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however, that doesnt make picks like sleeper automatically bad or anything it can still put out a fair bit of damage yknow

smoky marsh
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however i might just be misleading you completely but between worm and sleeper id use sleeper

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leviathans breath the heavy bow

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keep in mind tho youll NEED to have a catalyst its pretty much a must on that weapon, catalyst drops from yellow bars iirc,

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can farm witches at the start of grasp for the drop and then comes the task of getting like 1500 kills with it

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if we're talking strictly about linears tho as others have said above cataclysmic is almost always best in slot

past trench
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alright

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oh yeah i did see that bow in the archive

smoky marsh
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yep pretty accessible

past trench
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alright ill think of getting the three

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mainly sleeper for now then levi or sleeper

smoky marsh
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being meta slave sometimes is depressing

past trench
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yeah, tho idk what feels best yet since i need to buy them

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which those are a tad bit costy so i prefer to get which is the best then go from there

smoky marsh
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makes sense bro, in my experience ive seen levi used more than sleeper and whisper but that might be cos im doing diff activities to you so

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sleeper solid pick ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿฝ

past trench
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alr

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is the catalyst for sleeper good?

smoky marsh
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i personaly think it is it gives it faster charge time but decreased impact damage and increased ammo reserves iirc

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id say definitely worth grabbing