How am i supposed to get these red borders??

[short wigeon]

Is it even possible to get red border weapons that have sunset ie Ikelos SMG, Calus Mini-Tool etc.
Are these literally impossible to get now???

[hollow perch]

Buy them from banshee or xur

[short wigeon]

Do they even have a chance to make it red border?

Without using deepsight harmonizer***

[wary jungle]

no

[tulip flume]

isnt dare drop it on rotate loot pool ?

[mighty frost]

they do, but they really rare

[short wigeon]

like how rare? 0.1% or something??

[mighty frost]

idk

[meager echo]

It’s the same as any other gun

Iirc it’s around 10%?

That’s what I remember anyways from an anecdote some dude who spent 240 spoils at master rhulk

[short wigeon]

bro 240 why

[meager echo]

Wanted to get forbearance and cataclysmic crafted

Since you can buy raid adepts for spoils and those can drop as red borders giving progress toward the base version

[short wigeon]

oh ok

[meager echo]

But yeah that’s what you should use harmonizers for, legacy guns

Don’t waste them on stuff that’s still obtainable

[hollow perch]

Or use harmonizer on neomuna weapons because the red borders for those are basically unobtainable

[short wigeon]

i dont have light fall

[paper root]

nah it’s possible I got a red border ikelos once from a terminal overload

[short wigeon]

i dont have lighfall

[paper root]

u dont even need lightfall for terminal overload im p sure, and the chest doesnt even matter

[short wigeon]

oh ok

[short wigeon]

does it matter if its terminal overload zc?

[paper root]

idk, it doesnt matter

[lilac robin]

ikelos weapons r in world drop pool

ive gotten red border ikelos smg, shotgun and handcannon from world drops

u cant get calus mini tool though