Need useful gun

[old halo]

my 3rd gun with tractor and 1-2 punch shotty (arc hunter) is always useless any wepon recommendations that I would have a use for?

[viral glen]

Second 1-2 punch shotty

[old halo]

why?

[viral glen]

Double special is pretty good, and I'm guessing if you're already running one 1-2, you're running assassins cowl melee build

You're not going to be out of invis a lot, so best thing is shottying then meleeing

Plus you'll be getting more heavy ammo running double special

[bitter ore]

what i sometimes do is run auto for barrier (you can use anything for barrier, i just choose auto)

[sudden pawn]

@old halo run a alh blinding gl

Or champ weapon, chill clip fusion

Second 12p shottie just is. Simply dumb. If you have a 12p and it has the ability to refill the mag on a melee kill makes a second 12p shottie dumb lol

[old halo]

I like this idea ty, I agree with your point on 2nd 12p lol and my fist is my add clear and it doesn't run out of ammo so primary wepon outside of Champs is useless, i never thought of blinding gl though ty again

[old halo]

What is alh though?

[viral glen]

ngl, my first thought when he asked was for content where there are no champs

[old halo]

Also I don't use assassins cowl I use liars handshake@viral glen

[viral glen]

Assassins cowl is slightly better for the build imo

While liars does give more dmg, it's not enough of a benefit when you're already one shotting most of your enemies, and the ones that you can't one shot with melee is where you bring out the 1-2 punch shotgun

[sudden pawn]

Auto loading holster

[sudden pawn]

It’s good yes. But 2 12ps aren’t needed. You get more utility from a blinding gl or a chill clip fusion

[viral glen]

Assassins gives full health/shield and invis on every melee kill, allowing you to safely run up and melee your next target

[viral glen]

That's true, but in content where there aren't champions, I personally prefer 2 1-2s

But in content with champions, I fully agree

[sudden pawn]

Not even without champs.

[old halo]

The higher the content the harder it is to keep cb x3
Assassins cowl is for add clear in high end. Liars handshake is for boss/champion killing. Or keeping up cbx3

[sudden pawn]

Imagine a chain reaction wave frame gl

10x better

VoW gl with kinetic 12p shottie

[viral glen]

In end game content you still one shot red bars starting at cbx1, so it's not that hard to keep up cbx3. And I would prefer the survivability of assassins over the slightly added dmg of liars.

And a 1-2p will supplement the dmg you're missing out on, still allowing you to kill majors in around the same number of hits as liars.

[viral glen]

That sounds fun. Might try to get one now

Forbearance rolls with it, and it's craftable

[old halo]

the healing from handshake is much more useful when not hitting redbars, to kill champs with cowl you need an entire new wepon.

[viral glen]

Does handshake heal?

so it does

[old halo]

lol the dps is just an extra imo

[viral glen]

I didn't realize it

huh

I stand corrected

[old halo]

the heal is what allows you to kill bosses and champs

[viral glen]

Still personally prefer assassins though