#Echo of Undermining mandatory?

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quartz aspen
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Is this fragment still mandatory on contraverse hold void lock? The resilience penalty kinda turns me off.

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I built it off a youtube video, that was pretty recent and it said it gives -10 resilience, but it gives -20, was it nerfed recently?

static sluice
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Undermining is -20 Discipline and gives weaken nades, no?

quartz aspen
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sorrry, i meant discipline 🙂 yes, exactly

static sluice
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It’s a grenade build so having your contraverse hold grenades weaken enemies is real solid, especially since C-Hold gives you back grenade energy

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if you’ve got some armor mods in the build that give you more grenade energy the -20 could be negligible

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Try it out and see what feels best for your. For example I run weighted throwing knife on tripmine hunter for the ignites even though everyone else runs knife trick for more consistent grenade regen

quartz aspen
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yeah it all makes sense you know, Im just trying to find an excuse to satisfy my OCD 😄

static sluice
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I feel ya

quartz aspen
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because if I take out the fragment

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I get 100 discipline and 100 resil stats 😄

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with that, I get 100 and 80 😄

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the other way around, 100 resilience, 80 discipline

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I will try couple games without it and use echo of remnants instad, to increase duration of the grande, so the contraverse can proc more times, getting me more nade energy back, and see how it goes

unborn meteor
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undermining is a necessity

quartz aspen
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will try and let you know 🙂

unborn meteor
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no dont let me know I already know

quartz aspen
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ok I wont let you know, I meant @static sluice anyways, thanks for you input

static sluice
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yeah honestly tier 8 vs tier 10 is negligible since you’re already getting most of it back via C Hold

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that should be plenty of grenade uptime