Orpheus Rig vs Star-Eater Scales

[graceful cosmos]

Which one is better for void hunter PVE?

[placid musk]

star eater bcs deadfall is bad so u shouldn't be on orpheus

[graceful cosmos]

Orpheus Rig vs Star-Eater Scales

[graceful cosmos]

can you elaborate?

[placid musk]

orpheus bad because void supers are bad

[graceful cosmos]

Well the question is which one is better for void hunter. Not which hunter sub class is better or worse.

[placid musk]

if u r using it for some reason then yes orpheus

[pastel sequoia]

if doing single bit teather then orpheus but the other 1 is up to you. orpheus does give you 3 shot but star eater can give higher dmg if you get max stack

[graceful cosmos]

I was wondering with what exotic you get the super more frequent to use it more often in GMs for example

[pastel sequoia]

single big tether gives up to 50% energy back with oprheus on top of a ton of orbs for allies to use supers to give you orbs

[tame forge]

neither lol
tether isnt high dps super, and you dont do lots of tethers
if it's like gm use aeon or omni

[distant torrent]

Orpheus is a swap exotic for Void

If you're doing a GM, just don't use Orpheus and pick something else that supplements your nade

[glossy sky]

Well it depends. If you want to dish out large amounts of damage, go for möbius quiver and star eater. If you want to debuff lots of enemies and get your super back, go for Orpheus

[dusky verge]

@graceful cosmos star eater for super damage by the super that shoots twice, orpheus is for super spam that only shoots once

[lime sentinel]

honest and no BS answer here
orpheus deadfall is better if youre gonna use void subclass. specially if youre gonna run endgame activities gm/master raid

most of the time your team will die to horde of mobs and not the boss, you can basically lockdown a huge room/area with deadfall alone preventing those deaths

youll be surprised how much super you can use with that 50% refund + 100 intellect (yes its still worth to invest on intellect because resilience is useless on void hunter due to a potential perma invi)

not to mention the amount of orbs you can create for your team is a LOT if you know how to place your deadfall right

now if you want to use star eater, its not worth it on void hunter, if you want a dps super using star eater, just go blade barrage.
or triple shot goldie if ever the upcoming blade barrage nerf affects it too much

deadfall will also get a bit of duration buff next season i think..
and mobius duration nerf

[graceful cosmos]

@lime sentinel appreciate the answer , I got the same impression thank you for confirming

Not sure why people think void hunter is bad just because the super doesn’t deal most raw damage out of all hunter supers

[rare barn]

its not so much that tether is bad but more that other supers are better

• void hunter's basic kit (so excluding super) is already so strong that the super feels a bit weaker in comparison. most people lean into invis spam with omni when going void hunter, not super spam

[graceful cosmos]

i dont really get the point of omni since it only gives you dmg reduce while invisible ? Also when farming GMs the ult spam which is basically half an AOE divinity provides way more than the survivability i feel like

[stoic berry]

omni lets u have 100% uptime on super

deadfall is just bad because it's unneeded

and you're only using mobius quiver for dps then

star eaters is a 70% buff, o rigs is another shot (50% in a roundabout way)

star eaters lets you get it off 66% faster

star eaters is just better for damage

[graceful cosmos]

wdym with that

[stoic berry]

i mean invis not super

100% uptime on invis*

[graceful cosmos]

why would you want to be 100% invis, you lose it anyways when you attack stuff

[stoic berry]

but if ur using void hunter in nfs you want to run aeon swifts, literally the best exotic in the game for support

invis lets you skip so many things

why fight enemies and waste time when you can just run past them lol

altho i don't see the value in omni that much anymore after void 3.0 dropped tho

not so much omni, but more so that resilience is beyond busted now

tbh, if i was running void hunter in normal pve content, i'd be running gyrfalcons, in nightfalls like gms especially, aeon swifts

[graceful cosmos]

but how i read it you onyl get that resil while youre invis with basically does nothing

[stoic berry]

enemies will still shoot at where u are when u pop invis

really good for when you need to pop a panic invis

[graceful cosmos]

im mainly using my hunter in gm nightfalls, which aoen effect would you choose, the champ stun one or the finisher one that creates heavy ammo

[stoic berry]

finisher heavy

the other two are pretty bad

but the finisher heavy makes aeons S+ tier

[rare barn]

i dont really play much hunter (especially this season) so i completely forgot about gyrfalcon, that sht is busted
also yeah aeons is another great choice, probably better for gms

[distant torrent]

Run double Aeons so the other Aeon can benefit from the heavy/special as well

Your own Aeons doesn't spawn ammo for you

[lime sentinel]

in this sandbox you really dont need aeons, reason?
abilities are so spammable right now and you barely need to shoot

you only need aeons if you have a dedicated team that works with you, considering youre here on lfg pretty sure you rarely have your own team

aeons is also needed if you have members that doesnt know how to put a finder mod, and a scav mod

the reason why people complain about ammo drops is because they dont use finders/scavs trading it for ashes to assets or hands on

the thing here on lfg is, dont run aeons that much, mfers here want someone to run aeons for them and they dont give a sht about you..

bring what you have or what youre comfortable with on endgame and have fun with it.

just dont die to random sht and youll be fine

if you really want to use deadfall, heres my loadout tip for you.

witherhoard, 100 mob/rec as high as your int can go, and 40-50res

sniper resist +seasonal element resist. 1 kinetic siphon 1 nade launcher finder. 1 nade launcher scav

reaping well maker, 2x perpetuation. powerful friends, radiant light.

and most importantly striking light, as long as youre running youre gonna survive a sniper 1 shot on gm because of striking light giving you time to invi

[versed dirge]

yeah if ur adamant on using void hunter for pve u should be using aeons

rigs and scales both are based around damage and void hunter isnt good for damage

[stoic berry]

resil is so much more important than recovery

low resil means u can get 1 shot, high resil means u can invis and regen for free even w/ low recovery

[distant torrent]

+flinch