#Need help with PvP

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faint patrol
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I want to get better at PvP i've been playing trials for almost 2 years and only have 1 flawless and I want to get better

tawny stag
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Get coaching

faint patrol
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Where would I get coaching?

tawny stag
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I dunno

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You could also just try and get free flawless carries from streamers or something

vale junco
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Watch pvp streamers on Twitch or Youtube, e.g. Wallah, Benny, True Vanguard, Coolguy, ZkMushroom, Gernaderjake, Frostbolt, list goes on

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Game sense (knowing when to push and retreat), map knowledge, weapon choice etc.

frosty crescent
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Yes, watch Wallah be boring as hell for 10m each video FazeClan

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I’d argue CammyCakes is the best person to watch for pvp stuff

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Very informative, shares builds and has guides on how to do better iirc

tawny stag
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Guess I'll watch Cammy then

tranquil marlin
formal dagger
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i would say do alot of private games, 1v1's, 2's etc... and if you get people that are better than you ask how they beat you as the games go along.

frosty crescent
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Easy pvp cycle for me is:
create a build, take it into control and see how it does. Does well? Keep working with it. Doesn't? Find something else.

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Also start getting familiar with particular loadouts to build actual memory to them.

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Consistently swapping between 20 different archetypes is much more detrimental than simply sticking to a name few that you already know how to use.

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Aim as a concept is annoying and really only comes down to how good you can actively train it on a target.

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Use meta if you want but don't expect an easy ride if you are playing anti-meta. Even good players can be bad with anti-meta loadouts.

fickle spear
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Anti meta loadouts are just meta loadouts lol

frosty crescent
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And overall don't look at pvp as a "competitive experience". It's all fun and games, your kd doesn't matter.

fickle spear
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How to counter the best: use the best

frosty crescent
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And the guy who ape-shottied you doesn't matter either.

frosty crescent
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eh, not even that.

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0.2s can go flawless when carried.

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and in a world of carries, trials itself is a pointless endeavor.

oblique oasis
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Honestly id skip control and go right into elims. Especially if you're looking at improving for the sake of trials, Elim plays much more similar while control is honestly a whole different game.

frosty crescent
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Ok, find a match in elim 💀

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literally like the same 5 people play there, and 9/10 times they're bad and not an accurate skill example for trials.

oblique oasis
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??? Queues like 1-3 minutes anytime between 12-9 pst. Sure youll learn how to aim in control but the maps play completely differently in a 3v3 vs a 6v6 ABC point mode

frosty crescent
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Must be me then, never gotten a match fast at all.

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and the times I did i steamrolled every single one.

fickle spear
frosty crescent
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🤷

fickle spear
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What

frosty crescent
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if they beg hard enough they can get another one.

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and another one.
and another one.

fickle spear
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If they *pay

frosty crescent
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well that too yeah

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as I said, I don't see trials / flawless as a necessary goal to reach anymore, hence why I haven't played in 2 seasons.

fickle spear
frosty crescent
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and with the meta rn? Don't think I'll be touching it for a while

frosty crescent
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adept version isn't necessary and once you earn it through trials eng you can just continually farm it till you get the one you want.

fickle spear
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Yeah that's what I meant

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Adept gives like +2 stats

frosty crescent
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and? you really only need normal reeds lol

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even than cataclysmic or taipan are better imo

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(or stormchaser but yknow)

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messenger is gone, shayuras (?) is gone

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eye of sol is gone

fickle spear
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No

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Reeds regret is like the best linear tbh

frosty crescent
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that's your opinion

fickle spear
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No

frosty crescent
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Yes

fickle spear
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It literally is so easy to proc font of might

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And it makes day 1s so easy

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It's infinitely easier with reeds

frosty crescent
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🤷 cata was fine for that stuff.

fickle spear
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Cause fom runs out fast since there's no source to get it

frosty crescent
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bns

fickle spear
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So firing line + fom = 45