💬destiny-chat

[charred yacht]

not sure but I got 1 random tier 3 drop when I got around 220, it was a rare drop tho

ive kinda stopped grinding power

[cold shard]

Just bought the DLC can I go straight into the raid or do I need to lvl up first.

[charred yacht]

need at least 100 power

fireteam power works tho

[frigid hatch]

nobody knows how to do the raid anyway, go lvl up first

[charred yacht]

er maybe its more than 100 idk

[hoary plover]

I don't think there is set power level for gear though I could be wrong. Got a T3 when I was just north of 200 randomly. T2 started dropping regularly after crossing 250

[tired oriole]

we arent clearing w bart

[fleet dagger]

this seems like a good shotty

this isnt even close to godroll and its alr busted

for energy

[prime pollen]

whats the best way to continue leveling ur light up

[patent kernel]

godroll for mint condition?

[fervent trench]

whats the best mods for expert mode for encore?

[cerulean olive]

not t5 though

[prime pollen]

whats the best way to continue leveling ur light up

[empty linden]

is there a reason to run sieve?

[cerulean olive]

farm pinnacle missions

[fervent trench]

whats the best mods for expert mode for encore?

[carmine carbon]

equip lock and void buff that's it

[nocturne bay]

Whats the thing to do right now? Seems like theres absolutely no reason to play unless im missing something?

[fervent trench]

void buff?

[devout raft]

grind encore

[cerulean olive]

grind light

[carmine carbon]

void surge I mean

[fervent trench]

thats not A tier tho

[carmine carbon]

What light are you?

[fervent trench]

220

[carmine carbon]

add whatever minor then

[frail harness]

Is there a list of tier 4/5 gear sources rn?

[round olive]

LF2M DP final boss dm

[mellow needle]

Whats the power level required for tier 3 gear to drop

[frail harness]

Other than just hit 350/450

[carmine carbon]

equiplock should get you pretty close to A by itself anyway

[coral stag]

Mythic

[hoary plover]

Weekly mythic mission drops a T4 guaranteed

[patent kernel]

does anyone wanna be my buddy c:

[charred yacht]

:c

[agile wolf]

Guess bungie decided to nerf the exotic scout rifle a day early? Says requirements not met for the scout rifle seasonal power

[carmine carbon]

?

[fleet dagger]

damnn a 71 starfire

[mellow needle]

Hey guys,Whats the power level required for tier 3 gear to drop

[prime pollen]

whats the best way to continue leveling ur light up

[carmine carbon]

You just farm encore forever until you lose your mind

[agile wolf]

The new exotic scout rifle for this season and it's seasonal perk thing from the artifact. Was supposed to get nerfed tomorrow with the patch but looks like they did it early. Thing does crap damage now and the artifact says I don't meet the requirement to use the perk.

[empty linden]

n oit works

[true fractal]

Hello, just coming back to d2. Curious where I would find an S tier warlock build?

[fleet dagger]

is the ropcket pulse kinetic slot?

[fast talon]

Prism warlock with necrotics/synthoceps class item goes crazy with Monte Carlo

[oak hound]

Where is the final mission mission flag in kepler
Like what area the message

[true fractal]

Kinda just wanna play whatever is most broken if anyone has an idea I can prob find the build on YouTube if you tell me hat it’s called

[carmine carbon]

You mean anit barrier scout?

[hollow rivet]

is wyvern easiest encounter in dp?

[true fractal]

Thank you for the reccomendation. Is this better than the starfire protocol build?

[carmine carbon]

starfire is overrated ngl

especially since bungie didnt actually buff it as they said they would or maybe its bugged who knows

[true fractal]

I’m all ears. Just tying to play what’s ‘ most broken’ and ll I’m seeing on YouTube is starfire protocol or warlocks

[clever jacinth]

just came back after 2 years had to do light fall , final shape and edge of fate 3 times 🥹

[agile wolf]

bruh I'm literally trapped in the introductory mission

[clever jacinth]

how

[carmine carbon]

As of right now until they fix third iteration all you need to be broken is that and a void buff. So suggest you run that with battle harmony and whatever other buff like radiant on prismatic. Make sure to get anti barrier scout

[true fractal]

Care if I dm. Just coming back ur speaking a little gibberish

[agile wolf]

I was doing the mythic weekly for it and got to the second area right after speaking to ikora. Mattermorphed into the ball and went through a vent. Vent dropped me off in a caged room. Caged room had a drop down with one of those generators you overload. I morphed and fried it.

Now I can't get out

[clever river]

Really?

[carmine carbon]

Its just the exotic names

[agile wolf]

I think maybe a door was supposed to open after I fried the generator that never opened

[carmine carbon]

Yes unfortunatly that's the whole destiny experienc enow

I guess if you like challengign yourself by beating your fastest clear time it can be fun but after 50+ clear you kinda lose your mind abit

[wanton halo]

anyone wanna yap about Wish Speeds with me

i'm bored

[still portal]

Has anyone tried running Battleground Oracle solo? I'm getting a very low multiplier for just that mission and its the only bonus focus i have left right now

[tidal heron]

-w- I love that the new raid is farmable

[dark cove]

Does anybody know if you need to do the Legendary campaign on your other characters to get their exotic armor or can you get them from The Sieve

[shy flame]

just got a tier 4 agape from the weekly and im curoius which is better firefly or incandecent

[coral stag]

firefly for sure

wait no

[carmine carbon]

cant you both roll them at the same time?

[dreamy aurora]

Can anyone help me get dual destiny unlocked

[shy flame]

i got a roll with both and am trying to decide which to use

[fickle patrol]

tyranny

[jade scaffold]

Does anyone know what the odd one out triumph is yet

[ashen bramble]

what is the fastest way of leveling up

[formal condor]

Farming has been sunset

[fleet dagger]

solod and still did better than the stupid matchups i get that cant get 10k

[hexed kindle]

does anyone know if 200 intel increases well buff?

[jade scaffold]

it increases well timer

[keen tree]

Can anyone confirm if the Time Latch Mission "Fallow" is currently available?

[hexed kindle]

makes it longer than 30 seconds?

[dense spruce]

I have tested it and it doesn't but it does help speed the process of gaining back your super when hitting mobs/boss

[jade scaffold]

Yes at 162 super stat my well lasts 35 seconds i believe 40 is max

[red ginkgo]

what's the format for the LFG channels? Idk what the 1m/2m means after lf

[keen tree]

Has anyone here done all time latch missions

[cerulean olive]

x more

[keen tree]

just 1 member 2 member

or 1 more i guess

[red ginkgo]

that makes sense thank you

[keen tree]

yeah ngl i just made it up but you got the point anyway lmao

[tired oriole]

yeah what

[keen tree]

as long as they know it's not minutes or metres they're chillin

looking for 1 metre peen

[alpine garnet]

yall aint real

[pastel nebula]

guys can any one helping with my build i dont understand why my dodge is so slow xd

[inner sandal]

https://tenor.com/view/get-real-vaporeon-misty-misty-pokemon-pokemon-gif-22919279

[empty linden]

whats your class stat

[alpine garnet]

true

[alpine garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/firefly-hsr-honkai-star-rail-gif-3784730326071418433

[south elk]

what did we name our daughter?

[pastel nebula]

gonna send u pm cant put prints on chat

[carmine carbon]

plz no I think I will be dreaming of this

[south elk]

elaborate

[carmine carbon]

nightmares

The VA has such a distinc voice too its hard to forget

[south elk]

true xd

[inner sandal]

chainsmoker voice

[torn perch]

Is anybody here missing last Ikoras sidequest? I cannot find it anywhere, completed previous 4/5. I would really appriciate any solution/tip how to get this done.

[sharp void]

what is the best damage for corrupted puppeteer

this boss is so hard

[alpine garnet]

someone else asked ts question earlier a few hours ago. so you aint alone ig

[alpine garnet]

going back in time pre-EOF destiny

[torn perch]

alr, thanks

[viral gust]

Anyone have problems with Explore Kepler Mythic not counting Strangelets in each zone, but did count collecting all 4/4? (Did deposit each Strangelet after each collecting, and tried to abadon the quest and re-pick it back up , but still shows missing credit but 4/4 complete)

[iron sinew]

i'm having problems wanting to live when i load kepler does that count

[sharp void]

cheers mate

[rigid wing]

does anyone know when summer solstice begins?

[alpine garnet]

dungeons are screwed

[upper mason]

how do i get synanceia? (the new eof sword)

[errant forum]

just got back into destiny. can someone tell me where to start? this looks so different lol

[undone bison]

why tf is bungie working on nerfing third iteration even if its bugged rn with all the problems we had so far let us have fun with the damn gun for the season

[spare otter]

Is the raid farmable at the moment?

[true fractal]

how do unlock polaris lance?

[spare otter]

Also do you get a chance again on the exotic? or at least the loot?

[raven venture]

if it used special ammo like choir, that would make sense. cant have an unlimited ammo primary do that much damage

[hollow folio]

Every raid is

[spare otter]

how about the exotic?

[raven venture]

buy in monument or get from xur exotic engram

[dense spruce]

Is weapon stat that important in builds?

[raven venture]

everything is farmable now in dungeons/raids. no weekly reset needed

[hasty mantle]

Is the world tier universal for all characters?
I mean if I unlock legendary campaign by warlock then it is also unlocked for my titan and hunter or I have to do it on them too to unlock it?

[crystal hornet]

Does anyone know how many phases the pahse race feat is

[raven venture]

probably need to finish story... source: theyre still selling those dumb story skip tokens after you clear on one

[clever river]

WHATTT

[agile wolf]

I hate the power cap on the weekly mission

regardless of what build I am I'm never gonna do any good damage

[slow kraken]

when is the next sieve?

[chilly steppe]

Every two hours

[strange hawk]

are there still Legendary lost sectors ?

[fierce gyro]

Including Finality's Auger?

[raven venture]

yes

[fierce gyro]

HOLY MOLY

[slow kraken]

and when was the last one....?

[chilly steppe]

Idk

[fierce gyro]

The next sieve is in 43 minutes 20 seconds

[past field]

The sieve is so mid

[fleet zodiac]

I assume since enrage is 3 its 2 but like

[past field]

Never got anything good from it

[fleet zodiac]

I don't see how thats possible with any other modifier that increases boss hp, especially for final

[slow kraken]

thanks!

[fleet zodiac]

also the grind has been turned up to "you will literally never get the item you want"

especially for armor

the odds of getting weapons with the rolls you want and mw were already much much lower than people realized, adding tier rng on top and it just isn't going to happen

[echo parrot]

I just noticed something that has me worried

[carmine carbon]

You can literally target farms drop so idk what you mean

[echo parrot]

There's no Deepsight harmonizers in the pass

[formal condor]

😂😂😂

[fleet zodiac]

it literally doesn't matter

[ripe pond]

I guess man

[carmine carbon]

It does matter because you are wrong

[fleet zodiac]

the odds of getting even decent rolls of weapons before let alone godrolls were in the 1% range. now that the system has even more rng its just over

[carmine carbon]

You mean now that you are guaranteed to have double perks pools?

[fleet zodiac]

not to mention doing the raid doesn't even increase your light level lmao

[carmine carbon]

Oh you talking about raid gear then yeah its dumb af

[fleet zodiac]

buddy that's with double pool perks

[carmine carbon]

Nah double perk lower your rng by a lot

but no crafting is infinitly worst

[tired oriole]

master raids r where its at now

[carmine carbon]

In general the rng is a lot less problematic now especially with armor.

but the grind is just bad

[fierce gyro]

Those funny guys at bungie truly couldn't give an arena bigger than that to the vandal boss to get the catty?

[raven venture]

not a fan of the armor tier system and not being able to increase tier for a cost... essentially wasting mats on tier 2-3 because tier 5 obviously significantly better, but will take 5 years to get there

[coarse burrow]

i live perpetually vindicated

[tired oriole]

mats = enhancement core and glimmer

[carmine carbon]

dont spend mats on t2-3

[valid holly]

What mats are u spending bro

[carmine carbon]

you dont need to since they come with full energy

[fleet zodiac]

if you want a godroll on a gun with 6 perks per column and you get double perks you have 1.4% chance

[tired oriole]

r u going to replace this bart guy please

[coarse burrow]

im still at work

[tired oriole]

i miss u

[timber portal]

hi everyone, have been an active player but never really did raids other than that calus raid when d2 introduced, which ones should i start off with?

[carmine carbon]

You have twice the chances with double perks buddy

[tired oriole]

voggg

[raven venture]

oh all tier 4/5 come max master worked?

[carmine carbon]

Unless you want all perks

[fleet zodiac]

thats WITH THE DOUBLE PERKS

[ripe pond]

Can we start an argument

[carmine carbon]

Yeah because you are looking for all perks to be what you want not just a mix of the four

[valid holly]

That's wrong

[fierce gyro]

All tier 2's as well come with max mod energy, the masterwork just gives extra stats in the lowest 3 stats

[ripe pond]

Hunters are better than titans and warlocks

[fleet zodiac]

1 0 barrels (1/5) 6 magazines (1/3) column 3 (1/3) column 4 (1/3) masterwork (1/5)

[valid holly]

Yeah no one cares about barrel and masterwork

[fleet zodiac]

maybe don't type if you can't do basic math

[valid holly]

😭 🙏 🙏 🥀 🥀

[fleet zodiac]

ok take away barrel and masterwork, 3% chance. wow that's so much better

[carmine carbon]

nvm

And how as it before the guarantee double perk drops huh?

[fleet zodiac]

?

[carmine carbon]

You telling the rng is worst than before

[fleet zodiac]

thats with the double perks, without its something insane like sub 1%

[carmine carbon]

How

[fleet zodiac]

but we had double perks before

[valid holly]

If u also take away mag its like 8

[carmine carbon]

is having a guarantee double perk worst than not having one

[fleet zodiac]

on adepts

[valid holly]

Which is very good

[muted kayak]

anyone know how do you get multiple thundercrashes in a dps phase?

[valid holly]

And then u already have a good weapon

[fleet zodiac]

ok if you're taking away the mag its literally just a mid roll now, that's cope

[light arrow]

alot of weapon damage

[fleet zodiac]

also a lot of dps weapons require a specific mag

[valid holly]

No man I lost 10reload speed

[carmine carbon]

"a lot" like literally a couple

[charred yacht]

all weapons suck now anyways

[fleet zodiac]

losing 1 mag on cataclysm is like 3-4 shots lost

[quaint hollow]

burgers dont listen twin

just give it up

[charred yacht]

just use thunderlord

[fleet zodiac]

unironically true

somehow they made dps meta even worse than qb

[carmine carbon]

the game is bad anyway so its irrelevent

[valid holly]

Bro gonna go for the 10 more handling till the next raid drops🥵

[crystal hornet]

Damn yeah ill need to check it out in game then

[valid holly]

Dmg meta so easy millions of teams cleared the contest with left click🙏 🙏 🙏

[quaint hollow]

u dont understand man there’s definitely no weapon mod that increases mag capacity i NEED the best mag roll

[timber portal]

ty

[carmine carbon]

Wanting a 5 out 5 on every single drops that interest you is how you become crazy

[fleet zodiac]

yeah go use supremacy without apended mag, let me know how good it is

[crystal hornet]

Also has anyone gotten past guardian rank 5, it says I need an expert conquest from the seasonal hub but it says I cant access it because my guardian rank is too low

[valid holly]

The backup mag mod

[fleet zodiac]

ik ur either a burger or baiting so idk why I'm responding

[quaint hollow]

the humble backup mag weapon mod

no way were calling rizz a burger

[fleet zodiac]

yeah man I love losing dps

[quaint hollow]

what weapon mod increases dps could u remind me

[charred yacht]

you dont have to lose dps just use thunderlord

[fleet zodiac]

how does making a weapon reload faster increase dps

[cerulean olive]

that one from vog

[fleet zodiac]

I wonder

[quaint hollow]

loader on arms 🤯

[carmine carbon]

is that serious question?????

[fierce gyro]

Well of course the humble quick access sling

[valid holly]

The reload speed mod bro

5 reload

[fleet zodiac]

ur trolling

if you are using loader that is omega burger territory im ngl

[quaint hollow]

if only i could reload weapons of a certain element faster with an armor mod gosh darn it

[charred yacht]

the humble thunderlord

[fleet zodiac]

true

[carmine carbon]

buddy faster reloading>more dps

[cerulean olive]

why are you talking about burgers?

[quaint hollow]

called two players that mog u burgers in less than five mins
impressive

[carmine carbon]

dosnt matter how you get it its just better regardless

[valid holly]

If only there was a sniper that gets double the mag size when u super and has fttc or rewind rounds for never reload man

[fleet zodiac]

are we done ragebaiting yet

because if its not ragebait its just kind of sad

[carmine carbon]

classic fall back when failing

[charred yacht]

just place rally barricade infinite reload

[quaint hollow]

when in doubt call it ragebait : )

[fleet zodiac]

yeah praedyths is really good I wonder why people weren't using it on day 1

[cerulean olive]

are you not using loaders for damage loudouts?

[fleet zodiac]

no because I'm not dumb

[quaint hollow]

yeah bro ts sent me 😭😭😭

[prime pollen]

any particular build you want to run with third iteration as titan

[fleet zodiac]

id rather make my grenades do more damage than reload 0.1s faster

[upper echo]

do we know whirling ovation's catalysst yet?

[carmine carbon]

because the artifact promote chill clip?

[cerulean olive]

so then what are you using on arms??

[charred yacht]

my exotic is getting mogged bro

[carmine carbon]

without the artifact he would be right

[fleet zodiac]

yeah chill clip, that was definitely the move

[fleet zodiac]

double grenade

[quaint hollow]

I SWEAR IF I SEE GRENADE FONT FOR DMG LOADOUTS 😭😭😭

[charred yacht]

I think bungie should make rally barricade do at least 5 more things

[valid holly]

Yeah man its def possible to get >100grenade when u are pushing 200 200 weapon int

[fleet zodiac]

guys what's better 40 more stats or 0.1s reload speed

[cerulean olive]

wait contest ron talking i should shut up

[quaint hollow]

this comedy GOLD 😭

[fleet zodiac]

let me know in the comments below

[valid holly]

40more stats into a stat that's not gonna go into the dmg increase territory unless u use random dim loadout

🥀 🥀 🥀 🥀

[quaint hollow]

didnt realize we were in the presence of greatness 🤩

[fleet zodiac]

what's better 4% more weapon damage or reloading very slightly faster

on a weapon that doesn't reload

which is most dps weapons

[tired oriole]

i ❤️ when people ask questions about the thing i just explained like i never explaine dit

[carmine carbon]

You cant run weapon mods on arms u silly

[coarse burrow]

???

[fleet zodiac]

are you baiting

[ripe pond]

Is eunoia a good exotic or nah

[quaint hollow]

4% wep from fonts are we not running surges 💀

[tired oriole]

yes

[fleet zodiac]

that was rhetorical

[carmine carbon]

No you are

[charred yacht]

i think its kinda underrated tbh

[coarse burrow]

surges over weapons during dps always, not a question

[carmine carbon]

If you are on strand warlock its incredible

[fleet zodiac]

okay I'm not interacting with the ragebait anymore

[charred yacht]

it is mostly useless tho

[ripe pond]

Yea I’m js gonna do the campaign on normal then

On my warlock

Do you fcking understand me

[charred yacht]

u need to get all the exotics sir

[fierce gyro]

But where's the bait? weapons font is on legs, same as surges

[ripe pond]

Why

[tired oriole]

im tweaking bruh

[quaint hollow]

mf is a burger casserole

[charred yacht]

u just gotta

[alpine salmon]

whats the damage buff from 200 super

[quaint hollow]

45%

[fierce gyro]

45%

[ripe pond]

U right

[fleet zodiac]

hey if you're running 200 grenade stat armor, and then you swap to 160 grenade 40 weapons armor, what mod can you now use to get back to 200 grenades while also having 40 weapons

[carmine carbon]

He's baiting by accusing everyone of baiting its just low level bait attemps. He ran out of ideas

[alpine salmon]

so 192 is close to that

[fleet zodiac]

its not even good ragebait because you're just pretending to be stupid

[charred yacht]

every percent matters on contest final stand u gotta get 200

[alpine salmon]

no

[carmine carbon]

Ty for proving my point

[fleet zodiac]

every 10 stats is 1% more damage

[valid holly]

When bored enter lfg mainchat and surprise yourself

[quaint hollow]

40 weapon isnt 4% boss damage 140 is

[tacit ledge]

whats a good energy weapon to run w/ the new titan exotic for solar kills

[fleet zodiac]

sunshot

[quaint hollow]

aberrant or a trace

[tacit ledge]

born to use something new forced to use the same 5 exotics

[fleet zodiac]

aberrant 💀

[charred yacht]

promethius lens is secretly the goat rn use that

[tacit ledge]

are we being fr

[charred yacht]

half fr

[tacit ledge]

or are we LYING..

[carmine carbon]

prom was always funny to use tbh

but its super mid

[tacit ledge]

cause i really want something new to run bc ive been using the same 3 energy weapons for 2 years

[charred yacht]

nah this update its good

[fleet zodiac]

😐

[fierce gyro]

I just dusted out the tried and true BxR battler

[fleet zodiac]

can we at least try harder with the bait next time

[quaint hollow]

thats not bait its just objectively inarguably true

[charred yacht]

its funny with the shrapnel artifact mod as a bonus

[carmine carbon]

Bro come on man you cant get baited this easily the man is obviously trolling

[quaint hollow]

calling a common fact bait 🥀

[coarse burrow]

100 ammo gen 🔥

[tacit ledge]

oh theres a new solar rocket sidearm and i just accidentally infused it for prometheus

[calm surge]

Is dual destiny exotic quest bugged I can’t do dmg

[charred yacht]

🔥 🔥 🔥

[tacit ledge]

kms!

[fierce gyro]

What's your power?

[fleet zodiac]

like say a dps weapon that isn't good is which at least has plausible deniability, not basic math questions like "how do you get more weapon stats from grenade fonts"

[calm surge]

150

It says ???

[fierce gyro]

Dual Destiny is 205 power, so you just need more power

[fathom belfry]

@left siren

[tacit ledge]

yeah enemies with ??? as their icon are immune, i remember trying to do a lost sector when i was like 10 or something back in forsaken or year 1 and i was so confused about that LOL

[fleet zodiac]

guys if I have 3 cups of water I can pour into each other and I add a mod that gives me 20 more ml of water to my left cup how do I put the water into the left cup if its already full

please help me solve this complex riddle

[carmine carbon]

Damn I havnt seen ??? in sooo long

Last time I 've seen those is probably d1 I think

[fierce gyro]

The answer to your riddle, is found by hovering the weapons stat in your inventory and reading carefully

[quaint hollow]

does anyone know % on dp origin trait

[quaint hollow]

😭

[pine merlin]

dismantle mines yes

[fleet zodiac]

that's true I'm definitely at 200 stats total

[carmine carbon]

destiny players cant read

[chilly steppe]

Orrrrr die.

[fleet zodiac]

its definitely really hard to get 100 stats in weapons and 200 in grenades without fonts

[pine merlin]

favorite voice line ever

[fleet zodiac]

okay triangle circle middle inside, I'm doubled

[terse sky]

how do i get tier 5 armor :|

[fleet zodiac]

pen or ant

[pine merlin]

verity? whats that

[chilly steppe]

Forgive bad impression lmao. But yes. Best line ever

[fleet zodiac]

I think doing raid tier ups and then running at multiple modifiers

[cerulean olive]

why do you care about grenade stat on a damage loudout that uses guns?

[fleet zodiac]

but idk if anyone has t5 yet

[pine merlin]

unrelated but i did some super gen testing today and uh

[fleet zodiac]

it makes my grenades do more damage

[past field]

It was good

[terse sky]

are modifiers enabled for raids?

[pine merlin]

o

[fleet zodiac]

and you run out of ammo like 1/2 of the way through dps in the new raid

[quaint hollow]

they want to stay humble on the wipe screen obv

[terse sky]

ive just been farming power im at like 300 and just not sure what to do now tbh

[past field]

My favourite line was the witness telling us how its gonna final shape all over us

[fleet zodiac]

yes

[charred yacht]

check out my tier 5 guys

[fleet zodiac]

oh yeah there's 2 tier 5 guns

[chilly steppe]

Thanks

[fleet zodiac]

using my psychic powers i predict the roll is 1 2 punch and slideshot

[cerulean olive]

and how much of your damage was grenade

[charred yacht]

starfire 🔥 idk

[cerulean olive]

because unless you are doing grapples on hob you dont care about grenade

[fleet zodiac]

the other half of dps

[charred yacht]

im not telling

[quaint hollow]

300 out of 5000

[fleet zodiac]

and I play warlock so probably a lot

[carmine carbon]

it really isnt you just need 5 grenadier piece with a third stat in weapon

[quaint hollow]

im cooking trust me

[terse sky]

which ones? only options i see are just normal and master, at least for RoN and SE

[past field]

aren’t all raids harder than they were before eof?

[fleet zodiac]

oh they're only enabled in the new raid

[pine merlin]

ron is the same

[alpine garnet]

omg war is alive

[fierce gyro]

All dungeons are at least, those slimy sons of guns made by dungeons be -10

[charred yacht]

theres some loadout swapping tech with the font mods that all the pro players are keeping secret

[past field]

Ron is mid

[charred yacht]

idk what it is

[fleet zodiac]

yes its most likely a bug

[pine merlin]

hey ron is fun...

[fleet zodiac]

bungie hasn't said anything yet afaik

[past field]

Me when i lie

[carmine carbon]

its not a bug its on purpose

[pine merlin]

what i actually like playing it

explicator is a fun encounter

[past field]

Me when i lie

[quaint hollow]

[fleet zodiac]

"we increased all boss hp by 50% on purpose to be funny"

[carmine carbon]

scaling change were across the game buddy

[quaint hollow]

ron is a great raid when there arent 4 ad clears

ppl are still not ready for this truth nuke

[fleet zodiac]

also I think people did testing and the damage that's shown when you shoot an enemy doesn't match the damage they take, its like 2/3

[past field]

Idk why i was half expecting bungie too accidentally leave boss hp at pre eof numbers

[valid violet]

@tough sable

[charred yacht]

a tragic misspeak

[quaint hollow]

its alright nobody saw it trust

[past field]

Ikr its better when there’s 5

[fleet zodiac]

they already confirmed the ability regen was bugged so I assume they'll say something about the scaling if they haven't already

[charred yacht]

fruedian slip

[chilly steppe]

In Joes defense, I gave a skunk yours

[valid violet]

RON is a great raid imo. Not too complex, its pretty

[opaque owl]

It's anything unlocking or being added tomorrow? If are we just going to be farming old missions all season

[cerulean olive]

yes and you will enjoy it

[carmine carbon]

it wasnt bugged they just messed up their changes

[charred yacht]

they are adding an uninstall button 🔥

[fleet zodiac]

Ron is a really good raid

[past field]

The best part of raids is the part where you don’t have too play them anymore

[fleet zodiac]

Ron is fun because you get to wellskate everywhere

[valid violet]

God damn it why can't i have emoji perms, i feel oppressed

[quaint hollow]

sounds like u just dont like the game 😭

[carmine carbon]

THey also confirmed that scaling is as it should be stop spreading missinformation

[past field]

Its my favourite game

[fleet zodiac]

source: i made it up

[carmine carbon]

source bungie

[past field]

King’s fall is my favourite raid. Ron my least behind gos

[tacit ledge]

send tweet

[carmine carbon]

THey literally called people out saying they hear what people say about the difficulty

one bungie QA had to explain literally everything word by word

[fleet zodiac]

yeah I'm sure

[terse sky]

until tmrw yeah

[charred yacht]

you have 12 more hours to use it

do everything in mythic quickk

[quaint hollow]

called the game piss easy one too many times now i pay the price of a normla mode explicator kill

[past field]

Is the fix in the patch?

[terse sky]

i think they stated it's being addressed in this week's patch

[charred yacht]

all of the bad changes are kinda ur fault

[carmine carbon]

Top players complained to bungie that the g ame was too easy and now you get this now people think its bugged cuz its too hard

[past field]

Average hydra in mythic > all ron bosses

[charred yacht]

anyone who called the game too easy raise your hand right now

[fleet zodiac]

I'm sure bungie confirmed that it was intended, and the bug that shows us doing 2/3 as much damage as we actually deal is just a visual bug that happens to coincide exactly with being -20 power under

[quaint hollow]

i was part of the vocal minority i cannot deny

[carmine carbon]

The UI is bugged but the actual damage is working as intended

[past field]

Now bosses have way too much hp

[tacit ledge]

legendary campaign solo's difficulty settings should be the new minimum difficulty

[charred yacht]

half of the people who called the game too easy are happy about all these changes tho I guess

[carmine carbon]

Its like the raid telling the delta cap was 200 when it was 100

[fierce gyro]

Didn't bungie also say that perk weighing wasn't a thing, but then it actually was?

[fleet zodiac]

I'll see you on thursday when I'm proven right

[carmine carbon]

there's a bunch of tooltips in the game that are completly wrong

[charred yacht]

saltagreppo was like this was the best contest mode ever !!!11

[fleet zodiac]

bungie would never lie

[cerulean olive]

the raid did in fact say 100 '

[fleet zodiac]

mythic campaign enemies taking 10 minutes to kill? its intended

[carmine carbon]

It was saying 200 before saturday

bungie had to make a statement because people were freaking out

[fierce gyro]

Truly unprecedented...

[cerulean olive]

I don't believe so

[fleet zodiac]

its intended for you to shoot the cyclops boss for 30m straight actually my dad works at bungie and he told me

[charred yacht]

plink plink is so peak, bungie does it again

[cerulean olive]

it was simply that we were told 200 was from campaign

[carmine carbon]

You can find their stament if you dont believe it

Regardless half their deltas and tooltips about light level is wrong everywhere

[fleet zodiac]

what is the actual power cap of the raid im too high to see, its 100 with no mods?

[charred yacht]

it seems like bungie has had constant internal communication problems for months at this point idk

[fleet zodiac]

and then mods raise the cap

[tacit ledge]

yeah the previews made the new titan exotic look worse than it is this is not bad

[cerulean olive]

the raid itself was definitely always 100 because it was datamined

[carmine carbon]

The UI probably couldnt get changed in time for last min changes to the actual scalings and diff changes

[fleet zodiac]

yeah its just the tooltips surely

[frank forge]

they said if you played the leg campaign they said you would be day1 contest ready

[tacit ledge]

i havent exactly brought it into gms yet but they feel good and ive been clkeaning house w them so far

[fleet zodiac]

surely you're intended to swap 4 times and use shoot to loot on day 1 raid for boss final stand

[frank forge]

they didn't say anything about being 200 from the campaign

[carmine carbon]

It is bungie mentioned that the damage scaling is indentical to their test client

[cerulean olive]

thats what that means lmao is that it brings you up to 200

[fleet zodiac]

they said 100 from campaign which seems about right if you do it on normal

[frank forge]

no it doesn't

[fleet zodiac]

where

[fierce gyro]

How much is the temporal alignment buff on Graviton? like 20%?

[frank forge]

just means you will be above the power cap for contest mode

[carmine carbon]

on twitter some QA dude explained everything to some guy crying about it

[cerulean olive]

no? legendary campaign was always that it just brought you up to cap for contest

[charred yacht]

design boss thats tested with grand overture and then disable grand overture 🔥

[carmine carbon]

Apparently they had the winners of SE WF do the testing for this contest too

[fleet zodiac]

okay 1 random qa tester vs thousands of people independently reporting damage scaling not working, who would win

[cerulean olive]

yeah bravo

[stuck plover]

what are best warlock stats

[fleet zodiac]

obviously qa doesn't think there's a problem or they wouldn't have shipped it

[carmine carbon]

Are you stupid? He said the scaling was identical

[stuck plover]

whats a good vid to watch to show me how the new armor system works

[charred yacht]

didnt they play in the raid race tho?

[fleet zodiac]

why would they ship it if they knew it was bugged

[cerulean olive]

you cant

[carmine carbon]

Pretty sure they didnt

[charred yacht]

oh

[fierce gyro]

I'm at least shooting for grenade and super because song of flame benefits from both at least as far as I'm aware

[carmine carbon]

Or maybe they did but they cant win

[fleet zodiac]

yes the damage scaling is identical according to his testing

[blissful coral]

is there still a way to get lost signal?

[cerulean olive]

weapon and whatever stat your build wants like melee for lightning slide

[fleet zodiac]

imagine for a second a world where his test isn't accurate

[charred yacht]

tyraxe was in the desert perpetual raid race

[fleet zodiac]

and they shipped eof with bugged damage

[carmine carbon]

buddy if thunderlord hits for a certain number on his test client and it hits for the same number in live I think its pretty conclusive no?

[fleet zodiac]

I think we would call this world the reality that we are currently living in

[carmine carbon]

Too stupid to understand that tho its ok

Keep rage baiting

[ripe pond]

Is it worth doing eof legendary campaign

[fleet zodiac]

it doesn't though are you dumb?

[carmine carbon]

That's all ur good at

[fleet zodiac]

did you not see the whole thing about how damage hit numbers weren't matching damage dealt?

[vocal marten]

Yes I think it’s pretty conclusion too

Damn you fixed it :(

[carmine carbon]

Ok I'm done you are actually clueless

[tough sable]

your butt stinks

[fleet zodiac]

its going to feel so good on Thursday when you're wrong

[inner pivot]

anyone know how many team in total beat the contest mode?

[carmine carbon]

If I'm wrong then bungie is wrong that's not me

[charred yacht]

i think the number floating around is 270? idk

[inner pivot]

can I see that somewhere ?

[fleet zodiac]

what do you think a bug is

thats the developers being wrong

[charred yacht]

no idea just what i heard

[vocal marten]

It’s floating around

[inner pivot]

ty :<

[inner pivot]

ummm... around where, sorry I'm a useless potato

[carmine carbon]

hahahaha horrible take. Classic arm chair dev

[fleet zodiac]

270, less than half of SE. jfc

if we don't get a rescheduling at this point I literally have no hope for the game anymore

[vocal marten]

You’re not a useless potato I’m just fkn around. I have no idea where you can find this info

[alpine garnet]

edge of fart

[carmine carbon]

Poor kid cant handle the game being too hard calls bungie big bads bugs! Reschedule or I leave!

[vocal marten]

Hi Uchur hi 👑

[alpine garnet]

hi EffecT hi 👑

[inner pivot]

❤️

[charred yacht]

lol its fine, its not like it was unclearable it was just really hard

[quaint hollow]

BRO THE ORIGIN TRAIT IS LIKE 7% 😭

[carmine carbon]

That's the kind of people that cant handle being called out for skill issue then complain for all the wrong reason to feel better

[alpine garnet]

bungie gon tune down hp eventually

[cerulean olive]

what's the trigger

[charred yacht]

u have to get tier 5 enhanced origin and then it jumps to like 30% 🔥

[fierce gyro]

Even if they reschedule it, people already figured out the mechanics so wouldn't that also make it a not useful race? or do people just want conquest clears

[onyx yew]

can someone help me figure out what stats are people mostly focusing on?

[fleet zodiac]

I mean if its only technically clearable by the top ~250 teams then I just don't care about day 1 anymore

[carmine carbon]

skill issue

[charred yacht]

thats kinda the conclusion I've arrived at

[vocal marten]

[carmine carbon]

Just accept that you arent good enough and move on no need to spread missinformation because you feel bad about your inability to clear day 1

[fleet zodiac]

idk they can't reschedule really bc it would be too easy without modifying the raid so I they've just kind of killed day 1 in general

[pine fog]

same, tho i stopped caring after vow

[tired oriole]

thats the point of the raid race tho...

[cerulean olive]

its double that number

[quaint hollow]

combatant kills

[charred yacht]

I play with randos and random groups just cant clear this type of stuff, not that im saying im good

[fleet zodiac]

SE and this back to back is probably enough to discourage 99.999999% of players from even trying again

[quaint hollow]

pauses on stow

[cerulean olive]

in general or with the gun

[fleet zodiac]

270 teams cleared

[quaint hollow]

with the weapon

[pine fog]

damn only 270

thats crazy

[charred yacht]

this is the general sentiment

idk if its only 270 thats just what I heard

[fleet zodiac]

thats less than half of SE which was the hardest day 1 not including last wish

[carmine carbon]

Bungie clearly said that they pushed their contest testing to the maximum with SE WF teams so you KNOW that contest would be the hardest day 1

[clever river]

Grapple was nerfed for the moddifers right?

[fleet zodiac]

but last wish was just bungie not playtesting properly

[charred yacht]

we will see in the twid

[valid holly]

Look the problem is that if the day1 is easy the better people are bored as hell. But if it's hard they get something and the worse players can still play the normal difficulty or feats or whatever and be challenged

And u aren't gonna figure out mechanics either way

99% just look them up

[quaint hollow]

the actual good take
contest is a contest it shouldnt be for the avg joe

[valid holly]

And even on the day1 good teams will be faster

[carmine carbon]

That's the good take. Too many people say the opposite. Its better to balance from the top down

[pine fog]

honestly i expect them to not say anything about it and just be like, "congrats team! you overcame extreme odds and pulled through! here's your belt"

[charred yacht]

i always saw it as the really good players are racing for worlds first while the good but not super good players are trying for the emblem

[fleet zodiac]

day 1 should be hard but clearable like dsc or vow, SE was overturned, desert was so overtuned that the jury is still out on whether or not it was bugged

[carmine carbon]

Everyone wants a medal nowadays

[quaint hollow]

its the one day a year the top .1 gets to actually play as if they are

[fleet zodiac]

honestly SE wasn't even overtuned the devs just didn't give us enough clues for verity

[valid holly]

Se was acctualy not that hard xd

[charred yacht]

bro it was like the top .001% not .1% lol

[fierce gyro]

All I know is that I tuned into Datto's race a couple times, and the wipe when the hydra boss had less than a pixel of health was ROUGH

[valid holly]

It was just 10-15h verity

[fleet zodiac]

verity was the majority of day 1, witness wasn't even that hard

[carmine carbon]

Endgame player when they realize they are already part of the minority but then realize they dont actually are the true end game top player

[tulip halo]

guys does the campagin level you up fast?

[fleet zodiac]

day 1s shouldn't be the top streamers only, that's just not interesting anymore

[untold birch]

yea it was -25 delta not like -40 DT

[carmine carbon]

not to you maybe but there's a bunch of people watching the race and the people doing them that like it

[tulip halo]

how is that not interesting?

[charred yacht]

its probably interesting for the people watching, just depends on what bungie is aiming for

[fleet zodiac]

when the raid is a boss rush with 4 bosses that all have more hp than witness and triple his mechanics, what are we even doing anymore?

[carmine carbon]

There's a ton of people that hate raid and dungeons because its too hard what do you say to them?

[quaint hollow]

it isnt just the top streamers
the actual top streamers struggled much more than the actual best players

[fresh jetty]

did they put the dlcs free for the month except eof

[carmine carbon]

You are already part of the 1% in destiny just stop complaining

[charred yacht]

when I gave up and turned on the stream watching players get to final stand over and over was crazy hype

[valid holly]

Getting better or waiting for the eaiser difficulty

[untold birch]

i heard d2 players wanted it

[charred yacht]

it was pretty demotivating tho, cuz from my perpective it just looked impossible lol

[fleet zodiac]

yes it should be easier, having to swap multiple times to clear isn't fun

[quaint hollow]

then dont clear on contest

[fleet zodiac]

having to farm ammo isn't fun

[valid holly]

So Why do u do it

[fleet zodiac]

don't worry, there isn't going to be another contest

[valid holly]

U can go into the easier difficulty

[charred yacht]

i mean when like over half of the people clearing are the people who have careers based on the game its kinda

[carmine carbon]

THere's people that dont even want to try a raid because its demotivating and daunting. How do you think they feel when the entire end game is catered to a small group

[fierce gyro]

And that's why I didn't even entertain the idea of finding a team, I leave contests and honestly most raids to people who want them, and that's perfect for me

[quaint hollow]

acting entitled to a clear of the hardest activity in the game is wicked work

[valid holly]

It's not u can go into the easier difficulty

[silk wyvern]

best hunter loadout for new raid? only done it on my warlock so far

[last glen]

can someone spare sometime to help with crota cp titan pnly

[fervent veldt]

hi war hi jma

[charred yacht]

HI chicken

did u do the raid

[quaint hollow]

hello fish!

[oak hound]

Hi jma and chicken

[last glen]

can’t find a single soul who can do damage

[fleet zodiac]

"we should make day 1, the biggest event of the expansion only accessible to people who play the game for a living, this will surely drive engagement up"

[charred yacht]

hi kuno

[carmine carbon]

Trust me even with the easy difficulty, there's at least 80%+ percent of the player base that will never step foot in a raid in their life

[cerulean olive]

what does that have to do with contest being hard

[charred yacht]

thats pretty true lol

[fleet zodiac]

probably prismatic grapple

[fervent veldt]

omfg istg people dont know how to use ftf

[fleet zodiac]

with synthos and whatever the other mod was

[oak hound]

Bro on normal that raid is so fun and good

[valid holly]

Fck man lets do the game easy because most people don't want to interact with a raid team

[carmine carbon]

I'm saying that because that guy is crying about bungie catering to the top end game player when he's himself part of a very small percentage of player in the game

[fleet zodiac]

yes and thats on bungie

[pine fog]

destiny players cant read, so

[tacit ledge]

so does reclamation have seasonal content or

[fleet zodiac]

they need to be making raiding more accessible not less

[pine fog]

no

[tacit ledge]

like is it launching tmrw or next week

oh gg

[pine fog]

no

[fervent veldt]

theres going to be an activity in a fewish weeks

[fleet zodiac]

making every raid harder than the last just turns away people from ever trying it

[oak hound]

Do people not know how to use fireteam finder or lfg?

[cerulean olive]

raiding IS accessible people just refuse to learn or try to get better

[oak hound]

Raids are pretty accesable

[tacit ledge]

oh?

[oak hound]

W take

[quaint hollow]

raiding is very accessible
outside of contest
and contest shouldnt be accessible to everyone

[pine fog]

we get more portal activities throughout the weeks but thats about it

[charred yacht]

dps checks are cool in contests, but idk if we needed 4 lol

[quaint hollow]

I HATE AUTO CORRECT

[inner pivot]

agree

[oak hound]

✅

[untold birch]

make next raid more harder than this one

[carmine carbon]

I dont think contest should be accesible to everyone its a "contest" after all

[tacit ledge]

are there even any non boss encounters in TDP i wasnt tabbed into the raid like at all

[fleet zodiac]

why is normal desert harder than SE? what is the point of modifiers to create your own difficulty if the raid starts very difficult?

[quaint hollow]

i agree it was a typo

[charred yacht]

its all bosses ya

[inner pivot]

contest raid should be the very pinnacle of this game, there's normal mode for a reason

[quaint hollow]

i think this and se are what true contest should be

[cerulean olive]

I got into raids pretty much the week i got into the game

[pine fog]

no

[carmine carbon]

I agree

[cerulean olive]

nothing stopping people from raiding other than themselves

[tacit ledge]

fire

[quaint hollow]

the normal mode is very easy mechanically and damage wise

[oak hound]

Contest was way to hard to the point it felt impossible and prety much was impossible for regular talented lfg teams

[untold birch]

then why bungie made entry power lvl 100? make 300 then only hardcore grinders can enter too

[quaint hollow]

the 48 hours of true difficulty should be difficult

[fleet zodiac]

well I hoped you enjoyed your elitist top 0.001% contest difficulty raid because thats probably the last one we will ever see

[inner pivot]

it's for a pre-build team with experiences

[carmine carbon]

What bungie should do though is allow contest to stay indefinitly as an option

[inner pivot]

unless you are "very" lucky, you wont be able to did it in LFG

[quaint hollow]

i did enjoy it and im confident we will see another

[charred yacht]

I think top .1% and top .01% are both pinnacle, only like 270 teams clearing is a bit ridiculous

[cerulean olive]

what?

[fleet zodiac]

people who grind 16 hours a day cry online until the devs make the game hard enough for them, casuals stop playing, the game dies. who could have foreseen this

[quaint hollow]

maybe not as difficult as this one but we will see another contest mode

[oak hound]

Contest should be accesable and dont take that the wrong way I dont mind difficulty at all SE was peak but when every boss is a dps check and mandatory dps loadout swap and rotation it honestly feels way too hard

[fleet zodiac]

I would honestly be surprised

[fierce gyro]

📠 I've only done Crota's End and deepstone and pantheon and they felt plenty accessible to me even as someone who prefers doing solo stuff instead

[quaint hollow]

contest also isnt what is killing the game atm

[carmine carbon]

Yeah when contest end just leave it there so people can do it if they want. Nothing wrong with that

[cerulean olive]

i know right how dare the casuals not be able to complete the ONE activity created for hardcore players thats open for 48 hours of a year

[untold birch]

i would say only less than 100 team should able to clear it

[quaint hollow]

population was dropping before raid even released

[inner pivot]

real?

[cerulean olive]

so then what's the point of contest if it's always open

[fleet zodiac]

unironically if I have to loadout swap more than once to clear a challenge boss I'm just not doing it

[charred yacht]

do you even raid lol

[carmine carbon]

You obviously dont give the contest rewards after contest ends...

[valid holly]

Fck man I couldn't do contest now u should stop playing everything else

[quaint hollow]

wait for normal mode to drop!

[fleet zodiac]

wait you haven't done normal

[charred yacht]

this dlc aint really got that much

[inner pivot]

contest reward is the contest experience itself xD emblem is for collector, the exotic can be drop later

[cerulean olive]

I mean that's basically what they're doing

[oak hound]

That emblem is so fire

[inner pivot]

yep

[fleet zodiac]

you've been arguing for like 30m about how the raid should be this hard and you haven't even done the raid

[quaint hollow]

?

[carmine carbon]

idk is it? PRetty sure bungie didnt really talk about their hard mode or whatever its called

[fleet zodiac]

you aren't real

[quaint hollow]

i was 3/4 contest and have cleared normal

[inner pivot]

I gonna use that emblem to edge people for a while longer

[valid holly]

Yeah if play everything instantly and have done everything in the past the game can get pretty empty

[quaint hollow]

what are u on about

[fleet zodiac]

you are an ai bot

[valid holly]

But this dlc was more focused on changing systems

[oak hound]

Lol im scared to wear it

[valid holly]

Which is annoying

[quaint hollow]

me when i check the wrong raid report

[charred yacht]

no? we dont have to be stupid u can compare this to other dlcs

[untold birch]

used to be i guess, last 3 years less and less

[valid holly]

But was like needed long ago

[quaint hollow]

[cerulean olive]

you're gonna be able to do modifiers and can basically get it to contest from what I've heard

[tired oriole]

every day we stay cleating

[carmine carbon]

Oh ok I didnt really know then if that's the case its cool

[valid holly]

This is also like a half dlc??

With another update coming for it aswell

[charred yacht]

true you are right comrade bungie can do no wrongs

[inner pivot]

the only thing I don't like about this contest is it cost so much time & sanity, specially with someone who have family & kid like me T_T

[cerulean olive]

you better take your matterspark and more grind and be happy with it

[tired oriole]

its not half a dlc its a full dlc without a seasonal activity

[fierce gyro]

Another update? let me in on the loop I'm not a knower

[valid holly]

Yeah don't read anything I said

[oak hound]

Yea it was too tedious but thats every contest unless its a easy raid

[valid holly]

Unlucky

[charred yacht]

lol

[tired oriole]

every dlc is just a campaign and a raid

[valid holly]

U dont have to tell me content is missing when 90% my game time is doing self imposed challenges

[inner pivot]

(and some exotics)

[charred yacht]

there is like other stuff like exotics and such

[untold birch]

why not? if community kinda elitist gatekeepy then why not just push it farther

[tired oriole]

the rest is seasonal

[carmine carbon]

but its 10$ cheaper than normal dlc!

[tired oriole]

not the dlc

[fleet zodiac]

its going to be so funny when the power delta apology post drops

[charred yacht]

the distinction is arbitrary all the content drops at the same time

[oak hound]

The raid design is great though

[tired oriole]

big words

[inner pivot]

I mean... it's contest. But I expect more than 100 to be honest

[charred yacht]

true I am pretty smart

[hoary plover]

It's not power delta, either hidden modifiers or sphagetti code

[tired oriole]

so wise

[fleet zodiac]

I just don't know when every top raider turned into saltagreppo 2

[carmine carbon]

If any apology drops its gonna because of bugs unrelated to scaling and delta and because bungie tuned the game to be too difficult that's all

[crimson raven]

Man

Final encounter is so peak.

[untold birch]

make power delta -50 next raid 😍

[inner pivot]

yeah, raid mechanic is fun, keep body shaming my fat friend because he keep falling down when trying to cross the hours glass

[hoary plover]

Legendary campaign at -20 feels super easy but dungeons at -10 feel halfway to master

[oak hound]

💀 lmao\

[tired oriole]

hi

[fleet zodiac]

"make raiding harder make the game more inaccessible, wait why is eof so stripped back and underfunded what happened"

[lofty talon]

Honestly kinda makes sense

[inner pivot]

peak content

[oak hound]

Yea awesome raid though all bosses and the final boss is great

[valid holly]

Wait what if u could select the easy difficulty?

[fleet zodiac]

make it -70 like mythic

[misty dawn]

lemarc

[hoary plover]

By the way, if you go in a team of 3 on legendary missions, bosses have >10x health. It's easier to go solo

[oak hound]

Are you being sarcastic

[untold birch]

true

[inner pivot]

xD

[charred yacht]

did u do the raid yet

[carmine carbon]

Ego and easy dont match

[oak hound]

Isk I thought it was actually good

[inner pivot]

yeh, it's good

[fleet zodiac]

yeah desert perpetual "easy" mode

[carmine carbon]

the average lfg user's ego wouldnt handle being force to do easy mode lmao

[crimson raven]

TDP explorer mode

[fleet zodiac]

triple surge thunderlords with multiple titans loadout swapping to barely 2 phase final boss, easy mode btw

[valid holly]

Might be time they get real

[carmine carbon]

I think bungie will fold before that

[inner pivot]

you can pass the final stand if you have ~ 3 thunder crashs

Aegis already show that

[valid holly]

U almost 2phased on contest so thats wrong

[charred yacht]

have u even done the raid dawg

[fleet zodiac]

yeah but once you add the modifier to limit phases and any other modifiers increasing boss hp i don't see how its possible anymore

[carmine carbon]

I tried and its really hard but you know I'm right

[inner pivot]

yeah, maybe they will put more modifer in the future

[tired oriole]

no ive been here 4 hours because of bart burger

[inner pivot]

but dunno yet.

[charred yacht]

alright u are kinda right

[fleet zodiac]

I think there's already an hp modifier

[charred yacht]

🙏 u got this

[fleet zodiac]

there's one that says "makes all enemies tougher"

[tired oriole]

we replaced him

[inner pivot]

red -> yellow bar

[charred yacht]

😭 bartt

the raid 😎

[fleet zodiac]

yeah but I would assume it affects bosses bc it says every enemy

[oak hound]

😭

[fleet zodiac]

thats partially why I'm convinced power delta is bugged bc not only are old raids much harder but the modifiers for the new raid don't really make sense given how much damage we can deal

[timid forum]

is it just me or the fhost armor mod isnt working?

[carmine carbon]

bro just stop. Just stop

[oak hound]

Its actually good dps is great the charge time is bad though I will admit but most of the time you will charge anticipation which makes it even out a bit

[fleet zodiac]

you should be able to report someone to discord and their account gets flagged with "ragebaiter" so everyone knows to ignore them

[charred yacht]

this kinda thing happens in a ton of dlc drops, a bunch of old content gets harder cuz bungie changes how power stuff works

[oak hound]

💀

[charred yacht]

it aint that deep

[carmine carbon]

Calling me a rage baiter wont change the fact that you are trying so badly to save your ego from hurting getting rolled by contest. Stop trying to find excuses my guy

[fleet zodiac]

yeah that happend when they made raids -5 power, but a 50% increase in boss hp and damage is just like

[charred yacht]

it is what it is

[fleet zodiac]

if it isn't a bug bungie is cooked is what I'm saying

if they thought this was a good idea then it might be over

[oak hound]

Bro how come evrytime I go in here you always arguing or being rude for no good reason

Like you just haveeeee to be right

[carmine carbon]

Because you always end up when autumn is spreading bs

[fleet zodiac]

I don't want to farm old raids for gear that has -10% damage penalty for being old gear and also the raid is 50% harder now

[charred yacht]

its gotta be intentional on bungies part, u can say bungie is being dumb tho

[oak hound]

No bro autumn aint the problem

[uneven sentinel]

anyone know if you can farm the new raid, or is it weekly loot?

[oak hound]

its farmable

[uneven sentinel]

thanks goat

[carmine carbon]

If you see a problem then maybe you are it 🙂

[charred yacht]

so many people, especially in here, keep complaining how easy the game is, and boom bungie makes everything harder

[fleet zodiac]

that being said I kinda wanna run the new raid back

[oak hound]

💯 👴 🤡 🤔

[fleet zodiac]

like power bug/feature aside the raid actually is really good

[carmine carbon]

I'm sorry I just cant control myself when I see people spreading missinformation

[oak hound]

too hard

[fleet zodiac]

its kind of amazing how bungie can put out the most boring content ever for 90% of an expansion and then somehow lock in to to create the best raid experiences in any game ever

[oak hound]

Someone having a diff opinion aint them spreading misinformation but aight whatever you say bro

[carmine carbon]

You should read before you call what he said an oppinion

[charred yacht]

the raid team cooks every time except for maybe gos

[fleet zodiac]

I like gos

[oak hound]

Gos was good

[fleet zodiac]

):

[inner pivot]

I hate Gos

[oak hound]

Now ron Ron is BUNS

[fleet zodiac]

its like my 5th favorite raid

[oak hound]

1 Dsc 2 Salvations Edge 3 Desert Perpetual

Imo

[onyx yew]

can someone explain to me which stats I should be focusing on for hunter on pve? I tried looking it up but its all for pvp

[oak hound]

its called the warlock stat where you play warlock

[fleet zodiac]

its like SE > VOW > GOS and then desert is pending bc i haven't played enough of it to make a rating

[carmine carbon]

Just max weapon on everyclass

[fleet zodiac]

hunter does have the grapple melee build though

[oak hound]

I guess

[fleet zodiac]

its insane how that build is so broken that it was literally 1 shotting wyverns in day 1

[tawdry basin]

💯💯💯 percent on the health of these bosses

[oak hound]

Idk bro this raid is bad for hunters we went from like straight hunter 1/5 of wyvern health to half of his health per dps phase with some locks and titans

[fleet zodiac]

I think hunter can still do well with grapple melee or celestial, they aren't useless

to be fair SE was really the hunter raid

[oak hound]

Yea true goldie was usefull for contest

[tawdry basin]

For the 6 orbs

[charred yacht]

200 weapon gives u more ammo which is pretty important, but idk tbh

[oak hound]

Bro this new raid is so peak

[fleet zodiac]

also there might be something to 5 hunters chaining golden guns with star eaters and hierarchy but I need more testing

[charred yacht]

its pretty cool

[oak hound]

😭

[fleet zodiac]

it is possible that it outdamages thunderlord

[clever ice]

Do i need to equip my highest light gear to do more damage in the legendary campaign?? Or can i just have it in my inventory and stay 10 light and do the same ammount of damage even if im not wearing the 90 light stuff?

[oak hound]

Thats the I disagree but Kindly response from jma

[untold birch]

who though -70 is fun

[oak hound]

What a gigachad

[fleet zodiac]

we were doing some testing and even with only 2 hunters 2 titans 2 warlocks it was getting pretty close to thunderlord dps

[charred yacht]

no I agree

[oak hound]

🔥

[charred yacht]

🔥

[oak hound]

🔥

[charred yacht]

lfmao

[fleet zodiac]

legendary campaign has no scaling

scaling only starts at adept so you can use whatever

[oak hound]

legendary is free

[inner sandal]

chainsmokers smh

[fierce gyro]

The one and only thing I need is for Hierarchy's "tracking" missiles to actually not feel horrible anymore bring back the glory days of, a week ago

[oak hound]

I just did mythic today that was kinda free still annoying

[charred yacht]

yea they ruined the exotic tbh

[weak junco]

what is meta for witness now

[fleet zodiac]

mythic is free but genuinely mind numbing

[undone bison]

did bungie not scale all the raid and dungeon bosses to the new dmg system

[clever ice]

ok so i can just stay at 10 light an be fine for the campaign an just have all my higher light stuff stay in the inventory? I just dont wanna waste moduals

[fleet zodiac]

like we barely wiped but every boss took minimum 5 minutes some like 30

[oak hound]

Nothing bro until the scale SE for the new dps we doing nobody clearing that ish

[carmine carbon]

third iteration might be the meta since the witness has a gigantic h itbox but only until tommorow

[night vessel]

does light.gg or anything give a rating for what vendors sell?

[oak hound]

Yea

[fleet zodiac]

I will say

the final mission on mythic actually felt really well tuned and fun

[weak junco]

it has more health than expected or sum?

[charred yacht]

maybe im not really sure how it works anymore

[fleet zodiac]

that was probably my favorite mission

[oak hound]

Isnt VoW unplayable since we do new dmg with old boss health

[charred yacht]

infusing just costs like 1 core now tho

[quiet thorn]

need 11 for final shape

[fierce gyro]

I loved the backdrop of the final mission right at the end, beautiful looking that's for sure

[fleet zodiac]

you can but modules are gone

[quiet thorn]

anyone down?

[hazy comet]

Hey does anyone know how I change my name in this. I just changed my bungie name and now it doesn’t match

[oak hound]

No we got nerfed we only doing hundred thousands now and the bosses still have like the millions some of em until the tune it

[bright grotto]

To change or update your nickname on this server please re-register on our website. https://d2lfg.com
Visit our #faq channel for more information.

[quiet thorn]

also dismantle your modules they give you 5k glimmer and cores

[fleet zodiac]

it only costs 1 enhancement core to infuse now

[clever ice]

ok

[charred yacht]

peopel have been saying witness is ridiculously hard

[fleet zodiac]

so its pretty free

[oak hound]

Not hard impossible

[dusky wigeon]

[charred yacht]

ive heard some people have cleared it I have no idea

[fleet zodiac]

yeah witness is about where he was on contest, maybe harder

he has like 50% more hp

[oak hound]

💀 harder

Honestly Contest Desert Pepetual feels Like they play tested it in the old sandbox and decided to put them in with us doing way less dmg

[fleet zodiac]

bungie please buff rockets and nerf thunderlord I hate thunderlord dps I HATE THUNDERLORD

[oak hound]

that ish is cringe

[fleet zodiac]

its even worse than qb because at least with qb you sometimes have to reload or throw an ability

and aim

[charred yacht]

people being able to recharge their supers multiple times per phase from shooting thunderlord is pretty cringe

[oak hound]

Its cringe but meta'

So f it im doing it🤔

[fleet zodiac]

yeah and every boss being close range means titans just outdamage everyone for free

[oak hound]

[charred yacht]

meh the contest mode had a pretty even class spread from what I saw with maybe a few more titans

[fleet zodiac]

I use starfire with 200 weapons 200 grenades and use all my thunderlord and do optimal fusion rotations with an area denial and lose in dps to a titan who pressed super 3 times

[fierce gyro]

I'd want Grand Overture meta, just because missiles go brrr

[fleet zodiac]

I think they need to fix ammo for that to happen

[oak hound]

Bro the strat for warlock is well sanguine with t lord or LoW with solar or arc loaders and surges

[fierce gyro]

A man can dream eh?

[charred yacht]

idk if sanguine is even good anymore lol

[fleet zodiac]

I'm so mad I really want to use the godroll unvoiced I farm and then they nerf ammo like a week later

[oak hound]

Gave me like a free 10k dps on wyvern

And all im doing is well and dps so might as well

[coarse burrow]

if you wanna take advantage of it u gotta have it on the whole time :v

[inner pivot]

what happened to ammo ?

[charred yacht]

u were using it with lord of wolves?

[oak hound]

I can def feel the diff with sanguine

[inner pivot]

I was kinda easy to grind for me

[fleet zodiac]

tlord only works on sanguine if you're on prismatic

or arc

[oak hound]

Yea with solar surges

[oak hound]

Yea with an arc super on pris

[fleet zodiac]

special ammo isn't terrible bc of special finisher, heavy ammo is awful

[charred yacht]

the pris facet doesnt even boost the well damage anymore right?

[fleet zodiac]

even with double finder you're competing with everyone else to get enough damage for dps, unless everyone is on 200 weapons you aren't getting full heavy

[inner pivot]

you can tag enemies for heavy ammo progress

[charred yacht]

bungie gutted that sht

[coarse burrow]

except its kinda weird bc you also want to run surges or fonts

[inner pivot]

just use something that can hit them

[oak hound]

The new ammo changes are horrible for me imo I got more ammo before changes than now

[inner pivot]

other kills will count to your ammo progress

[fleet zodiac]

I've just given up on scavs tbh

[charred yacht]

thats the general take

[fleet zodiac]

yeah but its so much work idk why they changed the old system it was fine

[oak hound]

Some people got some meta tech though cuz some say they never run out of ammo since the changes

[fleet zodiac]

at least buff aeons/ ceno to make more than a nerfed heavy brick

[coarse burrow]

im so grateful you put me on to field prep btw, if you want you should try edgewise if you have it, it rolls field prep demo 🗣

[fleet zodiac]

plus if you're doing certain roles you don't have time to tag ads for ammo imo

[charred yacht]

lol I will try it

[coarse burrow]

strangely enough me too

[fleet zodiac]

I think all armor needs 1 more slot

[oak hound]

😭 💀

[coarse burrow]

like, 2 great perks, underrated combo

[charred yacht]

my forbearance was getting 6 ammo and then I put on the scav and I got 7 🔥

[fleet zodiac]

because I'm not limited by energy usually just slots. I would run scavs if I could have 1 more slot on legs but there's no shot I'm taking off triple surge

[oak hound]

Chat do I use this??

[charred yacht]

yea

[fleet zodiac]

and I refuse to loadout swap to farm ammo

[coarse burrow]

if you slide a lot yeah

[fleet zodiac]

I'm not making 3 loadouts for every raid encounter