Ahsoka

[unreal bay]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-it-yes-thats-it-that-right-there-omg-that-thats-what-i-mean-gif-17579879

[sand ember]

He needs broader shoulders

https://tenor.com/view/cool-kanye-west-big-body-gif-12469485

[crisp vine]

Look how long his blade is

[junior fractal]

19 inches of Baylan

[sand ember]

Hey look that blade looks just like in the show.

[unreal bay]

New favorite reactio image for this thread

[sand ember]

Is this real?

[unreal bay]

Your looking at it jiga is it real?

[sand ember]

Did he smile like that?

[shadow oak]

Probably a post error but that's a deflection, I think?

[sand ember]

Stop I’m triggered

Let’s surround her and run TOWARDS her troupe

Also I think I’ve watched the Anakin sequence almost 11 times now

[crisp vine]

More of a skim than a deflection. Very upward movement on the saber

[shadow oak]

I mean TBH I am all for bandits on this planet having anti-lightsaber gear

[sand ember]

That’s too nitpicky for me

I just want a sense of danger and risk

[shadow oak]

I can see how if you wanted to be mad at something, you can be mad at that. It doesn't bother me.

[sand ember]

Her getting stabbed in the stomach and recovering, and then deflecting all the shots with her armor just ain’t it for me

[crisp vine]

I mean, she wasn't wearing beskar armor when she got stabbed. Now she is and that can famously deflect shots.

[sand ember]

Is it actually beskar?

[crisp vine]

She's a mandalorian from before the purge

[sand ember]

Or is it plastoid or whatever

[crisp vine]

She has actual beskar.

[sand ember]

That’s fine, but again, gives me no sense of risk or danger with anything she gets involved with. I’m really hoping Thrawn does something big here

Give me some bad guys winning

Yeah I hope so

[shadow oak]

Darth Wren in the house

[sand ember]

I hope Thrawn has an epic plan

Instead of 100,000 zombie troops

[shadow oak]

Ezra flips out on Sabine -> Sabine runs to Baylan -> Baylan says not my problem -> Sabine shows up at Nightsister's doorstep and says "make me evil"

And then in the movie she'll be redeemed

[sand ember]

8 episodes and a movie

[shadow oak]

/waitfor poptart

[sand ember]

Or is it 10

A lot better happen in 2 episodes

Did they say this would be multiple seasons?

Oh

Then a shit ton needs to happen lol

[fluid hill]

no its gonna end with a cliffhanger

gotta setup for season 2

[shadow oak]

Thrawn tells Ezra he is his godfather and then chops off his right foot

[fluid hill]

or the next season of mandalorian

[shadow oak]

Enjoying your favorite show in the evening and then remembering someone on Discord is going to ruin it for you in the next 48-hours
😦

[unreal bay]

Already getting use out of it great

[sand ember]

So Ezra should already know the consequences of Sabine being there right?

Didn’t get “You stupid idiot, what have you done? You’ve doomed the universe” vibes from him

[shadow oak]

He seemed pretty chill about the whole thing

[vale flax]

Great job making magic @shadow oak! Mickey is promoting you to level 32 !

[sand ember]

I’m sure he’s glad to see his friend after 10 years

But the real talk needs to happen

[shadow oak]

Does the force let you sense someone else’s emotions?

Like, he could probably tell she was torn up inside no?

[sand ember]

The force does whatever you need it to do like the speed force!

[vagrant charm]

So do we think Thrawn and Enoch fucked

[shadow oak]

I will be head over heels if they explore this in a similar fashion to God of War: Ragnarok. The ramifications of removing someone’s agency — even in post — and how that damages a relationship.

[shadow oak]

My sweet golden person.

I’m sure Thrawn was getting some action with his zombies

[vagrant charm]

All I’m saying is that face has a hole

[shadow oak]

Rewatch nitpick: ||Sabine could’ve crawled out of the window in her prison cell ||

[vagrant charm]

She would’ve just fallen down though

[shadow oak]

This is also true

[vagrant charm]

I still can’t get over how sick the night trooper designs are

Thrawn cooked this one time

[shadow oak]

I like the red bandages. Makes me think of Blashphemous.

[vagrant charm]

The red bandages give off the vibe that they’re like being barely held together

It’s so cool

[sand ember]

Imperial costumes are always a vibe

Now let’s talk about the new republic uniforms

https://tenor.com/view/sick-feeling-gif-19257076

[sand ember]

[shadow oak]

She looks so disinterested

[crisp vine]

That was part of the point. Like "Look, I don't want to be here. Let's just do this quick."

[dreamy maple]

my fav part of the stormtroopers was when Beedont said "why are they so dirty?" to me

[shadow oak]

It's because those are actually the costumes from Galaxy's Edge back in 2019

[sand ember]

Poop Padres Brown

What a surprise

[shadow oak]

Their uniforms kind of look like someone took at Pirates of the Caribbean Cast Member costume and said "make it brown and futuristic"

[sand ember]

Its the same picture

[outer sun]

https://tenor.com/view/napoleon-dynamite-i-want-that-want-need-have-gif-25398671

[sand ember]

I think Henry Cavill would’ve made a great alternative Thrawn

[astral spoke]

seen it and read all the discourse. whelmed, don't care about Ezra and Sabine, just more thrawn please.

[primal glen]

https://twitter.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1706034158101815361?t=j-jPs40lafR8HBwxDvxjIw&s=19

DiscussingFilm (@DiscussingFilm)

Dave Filoni says keeping Lars Mikkelsen as Thrawn for ‘AHSOKA’ was due to it being too big of a challenge to replace such an iconic voice.

“I couldn’t be happier. He looks wonderful in blue. Not everybody does, so that’s a factor.”

(Source: https://t.co/uU22ToGkKl)

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Twitter · Sep 24, 2023, 7:53 PM

[weary venture]

I can respect Filoni supporting the actors but he just looked a little off

[crisp vine]

Now why couldn't he have that stance when it came to the grand inquisitor?

[fluid hill]

he wasn’t as iconic

[vocal pelican]

lol I almost forgot about his fakeout death in Kenobi too

that was very dumb lol

[crisp vine]

So a lot of recaps have pointed out there is the Zeffo language on on the spire place in last episode. Might be good to put this here so everyone can read up on the Zeffo from the Fallen Order. https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Zeffonian

Basically an ancient force weilding society that fell to the dark side. They left to an unknown destination as they faced extinction. They may be suggesting they made their way to this other galaxy.

[astral spoke]

Heavily featured in the Jedi survivor* and fallen order games

[junior fractal]

Huh, neat

I can see a stretched idea that the Nightsisters are related to the Zeffo

[crisp vine]

Here is ScreenCrush's video on it. The Zeffo definitely had an interest in Dathomir so it's always possible they went to this homeworld for the nightsisters which led them to Dathomir. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0OlC0i48EY

[astral spoke]

if the zeffo play a bigger part then we know that Disney is at least working across media and trying for coherent stories

[dreamy maple]

Lmao can’t wait for that to mean nothing

And just done by a prop designer who needed aurebesh

[junior fractal]

That 100% means nothing

[astral spoke]

fully expecting this show to retcon / timey whimey the sequels and the Rey reboot is a whole different story sans palp

[sand ember]

Ain’t no way

[junior fractal]

Nah, Filoni will just keep stretching out this time period forever to never address the sequels

Rey reboot unrelated until Teen Grogu gets thrown in

[sand ember]

I don’t think Disney cares enough about how WE received the sequels

All it did was make them a shit ton of money. Who cares if it was shite writing

[frail dock]

100% this, the only thing it affects is if how they approach the post-sequel era.

[sand ember]

Or, they just gave Filoni free reign

Oh look Filoni is girding the nerds loins, keep printing us money Filoni/Favreau

[astral spoke]

yeah but what if they can just reuse characters and merch they already made...

[dreamy maple]

I think their only takeaway was mando Tv show hit - movies not

They are still lacking in an actual strategy IMO

[sand ember]

I really wish they’re taking feedback from fans seriously. Becuase at this point I feel like it’s getting the Disney Live Action treatment

There are couple of hits, but they all make money. Except Andor

[shadow oak]

That and making it the SWCU, which IMO we don't need. These stories are so much better when they don't have to fit nicely into some other media.

I hope the direction they're going with Ahsoka is: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FvabuNIagAEaWqz.jpg

Keep 'em all in that galaxy far, far away and then I'll be happy to let David F. cook. Otherwise it's tough not to ask the obvious questions and generate lazy answers (ex. shouldn't Luke give a shit?)

[sand ember]

with only what, 3 episodes left? Thats likely going to happen

[trim meadow]

Either luke appears or they don’t make it back

I’m leaning they don’t make it back

[sand ember]

NO MORE LUKE

[trim meadow]

By they I mean thrawn

[trim meadow]

I wouldn’t mind recasted Luke

[sand ember]

NO

[trim meadow]

I would mind cgi Luke

[sand ember]

Skywalker legacy done

lets focus on other stuff

[trim meadow]

I mean it’s set in the time period Luke is in

Lol

[sand ember]

in a galaxy far far away

[trim meadow]

Make stuff outside that time periods d

Luke can be involved without him saving the day

Again the decision for them to do the time jump bites them in the butt

[vale flax]

Great job making magic @trim meadow! Mickey is promoting you to level 66 !

[trim meadow]

[shadow oak]

That's the bummer. Jedi God is just hanging around. Reddit seems to believe they're going to save him for the movie and let him drop in to be the hero then.

[sand ember]

for the Rey movie?

I'm still not convinced that its real

[trim meadow]

The Filioni movie

[shadow oak]

For Filoni & Friends: Live At Largo!

[sand ember]

but ive done very little research

[trim meadow]

Jiga are you paying attention’s

[shadow oak]

There's just so much weirdness that is serving the micro plot, but not the macro narrative

[dreamy maple]

I hope Baylan unleashes Snoke who vaporizes Thrawn and all of them and he’s the only one who makes it back

Justice 4 Snoke

[trim meadow]

I mean that’s the thing tho, like so either Luke is supposed to just do his Jedi temple or be actually involved in macro things happening

Like i get from a fan perspective it’s not very satisfying to see oh it’s Luke again

[shadow oak]

i.e. Nightsisters sensing Ahsoka inside of a whale traveling at hyperspeed but not Ezra in Turtle Town down the street. Although truth be told, maybe we'll learn Thrawn legit doesn't give a shit about Ezra. But even that would be weird, given that he put him in this situation in the first place.

[shadow oak]

I'm in the boat of not wanting to see him again

It's just tough not to ask the question of "is Luke coming to the party?"

Because he's down the street.

[sand ember]

I think Thrawn is smart enough to not give into passion

[dreamy maple]

How do you think thrawn got so plump? Eating Ezra’s turtle buddies

[sand ember]

but thats the thrawn in my head canon

[trim meadow]

I agree yeah, I don’t care if we see Luke or not but just sayin

[shadow oak]

I'd be okay with this if they explain/show it. I just don't like when they leave things hanging for the fandom to answer.

There's time, so we'll see. I'm hoping it's covered.

[trim meadow]

Lol snoke is gonna be the forever unknown mystery

It’s definitely gonna be some legends shit

[sand ember]

i think the big twist is that they aren't even enemies now

10 years and now maybe they're just buds

[trim meadow]

He said to kill him

They are definitely enemies

[dreamy maple]

If they can waste money all these stupid shows to answer dumb sequel questions like how did the first order happen THEY CAN ANSWER SNOKE

[shadow oak]

Tumblr theory of Enoch = Ezra, and Sabine hugged a super force projection

[trim meadow]

It’s not about whether they can, it’s about doing the most infuriating thing for the fanbase

[dreamy maple]

I reject that Snoke is just a palp clone, so fucking lame

[sand ember]

Did he say Kill Ezra or did he say Kill the widest shoulders a man can have

[dreamy maple]

Stop I hate this

So stupid

[trim meadow]

That one scene in season 3 mando was hilarious

[dreamy maple]

SO BAD

[shadow oak]

As is explaining what is and isn't a force power at this point 😂 — I would't be shocked if Ezra met Splinter and learned to do it

Or its "Magick" that he picked up while floating around that landscape

[dreamy maple]

It also undercuts the entire scene from the last Jedi

I’d they do that

[sand ember]

i forgot, what happened to Thrawns sidekick

did he die in Rebels?

[trim meadow]

He got electrocuted in the finale of rebels

[dreamy maple]

Lmao I am getting my hair done and she keeps covering my face with foil which is a sign to not participate in this convo lol

[trim meadow]

Shhh

[shadow oak]

She's just training you like Ahsoka did Sabine

Learn to respond without looking or reading

[sand ember]

rukh survived and is now Enoch

[shadow oak]

Feel the conversation happening around you

[sand ember]

Zombie Rukh

[dreamy maple]

Lmaaooo that’s how I wrote I’d instead of if

[shadow oak]

Honestly not a huge fan of Zombie Troopers, if it happens. Zombies are so 2010.

TBH they're probably going to be revealed as Yokai and the internet will once again lose its shit because David F. used something from Japan

[vagrant charm]

Enoch is zeb

That’d be an actual good twist

[trim meadow]

We saw zeb tho

[junior fractal]

It is kind of crazy that they made a live action Zeb model and then just… didn’t use it for the Rebels sequel

Unless he shows up at the end but at this point I doubt he does

[vagrant charm]

I closed my eyes so it doesn’t count ‼️

[astral spoke]

Zeb was also on the whale, he was there the whole time

[shadow oak]

Zeb is the whale?

[astral spoke]

I keep wondering if Hera is gone for the rest of the show or ...how's that gonna work

[shadow oak]

Similar to how Rey seemingly got everyone to Exegol, couldn't Ahsoka theoretically zap the coordinates back to Hera?

Though I guess they don't have anything large enough to make that super jump

If she could do that then the nightsisters probably could've done that too. Nvm.

[junior fractal]

I think Disney wants to avoid anything “similar to Exegol” as much as possible lmao

[shadow oak]

Totally fair

[unreal bay]

All roads lead to Exegol

[dreamy maple]

I mean the night sisters could have just pin dropped their location tbh to whats her name in her dreams but the map works

[unreal bay]

Nightsister Linda is now sharing their location

[shadow oak]

I still need an explanation on why they couldn't use Thrawn's ship to get and send exact coordinates via DreamTime ™️ 😅

[astral spoke]

or just follow the whales again, we can track through hyperspace right? TLJ says we can...seems easy

[crisp vine]

That tech hasn't been created yet

[shadow oak]

Sabine murdering the entire galaxy to see her friend:

[hot jackal]

My wife just pointed out that the Zeffo have the same head shape as those bandits that attacked Sabine...

[unreal bay]

https://tenor.com/view/troyeheroine13-gif-20702399

[primal glen]

Can't wait to see everyone else's reactions to ezra being alive

[waxen field]

They never really gave up hope that he was alive so I imagine it’ll be a lot like Sabine - at least the ghost crew

I’m most excited for jacen & ezra cause he doesn’t even know jacen exists

[sand ember]

I honestly hope that we don’t see Zeb in this

It’s almost like a lot can happen in 10 years

And maybe just maybe he’s over their shit

[dreamy maple]

That's not disney family friendly

[vocal pelican]

https://x.com/AltHistCody/status/1704995393828770085?s=20

Cody (@AltHistCody)

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Twitter · Sep 21, 2023, 11:05 PM

FNV x Star Wars when?

[shadow oak]

https://x.com/blurayangel/status/1706096769862603240?s=46

BLURAYANGEL 🦇 (@blurayangel)

What do you think about the theories going around that the nightsisters will try to resurrect Darth Maul?

#Ahsoka

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Twitter · Sep 25, 2023, 12:02 AM

[trim meadow]

Not really?

Maul has had his run

Where is his body even

[crisp vine]

Tattooine

[primal glen]

Ive been hearing mother talzin but I don't believe that

[shadow oak]

https://x.com/cadbanesbounty/status/1706095931530055763?s=46

Rik Villanueva (@CadBanesBounty)

Hey hey!!

#Ahsoka

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Twitter · Sep 24, 2023, 11:59 PM

Want

[vagrant charm]

Babu Frik should be able to use nightsister magic

[vocal pelican]

lmao this is so funny, what fan theories????

[shadow oak]

I honestly have no idea 😂 My timeline is full of stuff like that now though. Each tweet crazier than the next.

[dreamy maple]

it knows you feed into it lol

[shadow oak]

Oh 100%

[unreal bay]

Oh my god it writes itself

[crisp vine]

Time for what? To start the 24 hr countdown?

[waxen field]

Did bottle think it was Tuesday

[fluid hill]

oop

[sand ember]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-yoda-how-embarassing-thats-so-embarrassing-embarassing-gif-17362984

[outer sun]

https://tenor.com/view/the-final-countdown-gif-17317144901823537232

[brave kraken]

https://twitter.com/rottentomatoes/status/1706685258643435616?s=46

Rotten Tomatoes (@RottenTomatoes)

Sabine and Ezra are on the run in an exclusive sneak peek at tonight's all-new episode of #Ahsoka.

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Twitter · Sep 26, 2023, 3:00 PM

[shadow oak]

Poetry 🤌

[unreal bay]

Omg Enoch is Ezra

[crisp vine]

[shadow oak]

Okay but imagine that’s real and how the internet will explode over a super force projection that can interact with things

(There’s no way though)

[shadow oak]

https://vxtwitter.com/quigonjenna/status/1706487510665191596?s=46

[sand ember]

Oh god no

Please no

I completely forgot about that

[frail dock]

Is tonight final episode? I’m an episode behind tbh.

[fluid hill]

next week

[unreal bay]

Two more

Today and next Tuesday

[fluid hill]

theres 8 episodes total

[junior fractal]

Well, there’s that I guess. This is officially after Mando 3

Jesus Christ every fucking leak is true

||hayden saying Asaj Ventress sounds wrong||

[primal glen]

At this rate I'm expecting some tragedy or a s2

[vocal pelican]

Baylan and Huyang best characters in this series

It's a shame Baylan ain't gonna get enough development before the season is over

"The emperor died?"
"That's what they say." ☝️🤓

[junior fractal]

Yeah we still don’t know what his goal here is

It feels like there’s still a lot of loose threads for only one episode left

[vocal pelican]

I wouldn't mind loose threads but like this still feels like act 1 of something but we don't know if that's of another season, other TV show, or movie

[shadow oak]

Agreed. As a penultimate episode that felt rather empty -- I was expecting it to ask a big question or leave us with something hanging for next week to resolve.

I'm a little miffed by the witches being able to pinpoint Ashoka exactly but not Ezra. The insinuation seems to be that Thrawn purposefully left Ezra on the map so that he could use him as bait for a potential rescue party, but that feels like a really big cop out / lazy writing.

There were some cool moments in here, but ultimately the plot felt just a little too convenient at times, which makes it really hard to feel like our characters are ever in any real danger.

[vocal pelican]

3PO showing up is def cause VFX Leia to expensive and imo I agree, I'd take him over cgi leia

[shadow oak]

i.e. the bandits chasing and shooting, but then when they have a clean shot directly at Ezra and Sabine as sitting ducks (in the wagon circle), they stop. Worse, the troopers listening to Ezra's plea to be taken as a prisoner. Just feels really sloppy. 13-seconds of not killing him!

I think like those moments on paper, but not as presented.

[shadow oak]

So is Hera super tall? Or I am misremembering 3PO as being tall?

5'9", huh. Maybe the OG cast was also just very short.

Hera is 5'7" ?

This is tripping me out

[junior fractal]

The realistic answer here is that the follow up is Filoni’s movie that may or may not ever happen

[shadow oak]

Given that they didn't address Ezra finding out how/why everyone is there, I'm willing to bet the tragedy of the season finale is his rejection of/anger for Ahsoka + Sabine

[vagrant charm]

The c3po scene was bad

Ezra and baylan/shin are the best parts of the show easily

[shadow oak]

Ezra's last line last week:

I can't wait to go home

Ezra's last line this week:

I think I might be going home after all

Ezra's last line next week:

It appears I won't be going home at all

[outer sun]

https://tenor.com/view/dank-farrik-mando-din-djarin-the-mandalorian-chapter14-gif-19440065

[shadow oak]

https://vxtwitter.com/Gicken_/status/1706850296113049782?s=20

https://vxtwitter.com/LordVaderSports/status/1706809463464755648?s=20

Twitter is on fire tonight 😂

[vagrant charm]

Honestly the most annoying thing about the force karate to me was that it could’ve been so much cooler with better choreography

[shadow oak]

I was 10000% expecting a hadouken to happen and instead it just kept being pushes

[vagrant charm]

I just kept on thinking about that sick Shang chi forest fight

[shadow oak]

That's a great comp. There was so much potential to do something similar and show some extra weight behind each of his strikes.

[vagrant charm]

Yeah because honestly the way they played it made Ezra seem kinda stupid 💀

He was not doing that much

He could’ve used the blaster at least

[shadow oak]

Was he always kind of silly, too? That "hey let's talk this out!" scene is really sticking with me, because it felt so out of place in the fight and I really wish they would've just had Ahsoka crash in instead of pausing everything for 15-seconds

[vagrant charm]

I didn’t hate that just because the actor playing Ezra was charming enough to sell it for me

[dreamy maple]

“Coming empire” it’s Snoke baby

[junior fractal]

big mass effect council energy from this court

"Ah yes, Gideon. We have already dismissed the notion of any imperial remnant force"

[dreamy maple]

There’s definitely not enough time to resolve the Baylan stuff in a satisfying manner and that makes me sad

I hate Ezra’a contacts

[astral spoke]

meh nothing happened that couldn't have been done in 5 minutes and develop actual plot. feels like nothing but build up to be let down

flashy and cool and all but...

pokes with stick

do something

[dreamy maple]

This episode was about showing off ~~ master tactician thrawn ~~ and that’s it

[shadow oak]

Is Thrawn's superpower that he simply isn't an idiot? Being real here — I'm not quite getting this "dude is a master" vibe from him.

[dreamy maple]

Baylans weird comment about Shin too - hope they follow up on that

[astral spoke]

if the new Republic is any guide, not being a complete idiot and applying any logic and reasoning is basically pure genius

[dreamy maple]

Speaks to the high level writing.

[shadow oak]

I just have so many questions and I dont' think they're nitpicks — I think it's all lazy writing.

1. Why didn't he put the cargo on his ship before Elsbeth arrived?
2. Clearly he cares enough about Ezra to sacrifice two shuttles worth of (very regular) troopers, so why not use the witch triangle to find him before he has Jedi backup?
3. Why are all of the pilots so bad in this show?
   3b. Why didn't they aim at Ahsoka when she jumped out of the ship?

😦

Also he said he wasted Ahsoka's time but it seemed like she got in touch with her gang very quickly?

[dreamy maple]

I mean #1 is they needed a reason to stay on the planet and not immediately leave lol

The troopers thing is weird after his comment about preserving troops, honestly.

[shadow oak]

Yea! He walked back on that so quickly.

[dreamy maple]

My boyfriend said “they can’t hit one ship?” During the Ahsoka chase lol. I did say they likely have a shield

[torn garnet]

Shin: open fire
The 15 troopers at point blank range: 🧎‍♂️🧎‍♂️🧎🧎‍♀️🧎🧎‍♂️🧎🧎‍♀️🧎‍♀️🧎🧎‍♂️🧎‍♂️🧎‍♀️🧎🧎‍♂️
Shin: open fire (a second time)
The 15 troopers still at point blank range: 🧍‍♂️🧍‍♂️🧍‍♂️🧍‍♂️🧍🧍🧍‍♀️🧍🧍‍♀️🧍‍♂️🧍‍♂️🧍🧍‍♀️🧍🧍‍♂️

[astral spoke]

yeah I mean pretty much all of the conflict this episode could have been resolved in 5 minutes and the actual plot moved along, now I'm just thinking they have no plot and are relying on the movie / series+ to fill in the gaps

[shadow oak]

This to me is the most offensive part of the episode 😂

They do nothing for 13-seconds.

[dreamy maple]

Imo this is an ongoing problem with these shows and it sucks

[torn garnet]

Yeah I laughed pretty hard

They waited for Ashoka’s super hero landing

[shadow oak]

Which is a shame, because I genuinely like Baylan and Shin and I feel like they had so much time to do something with them, and didn't.

[dreamy maple]

Say what you want about marvel but at least something happens each movie

Even when they’re doing their interconnectivity bs

[astral spoke]

yep, I don't care about secret keeper sabine, Jesus and his twelve turtles

Baylan and Shin are cool, thrawn is compelling if he was given something to do

[torn garnet]

There’s no way those turtles created speeders in a different universe and didn’t get turned into soup within a week

Galaxy*

[shadow oak]

If you look back at what happenened this season, I feel like we could've been here at episode 4. And then we would've had some really good air time to let Baylan, Shin, and Thrawn cook. They took too long to get here IMO.

[dreamy maple]

Because he originally wrote this to be a continuation of rebels and had to condense it imo

Rebels is 75 episodes for 4 seasons so if you average 18 episodes a season

[astral spoke]

so we landing back again that Disney has no consistent plan and can't figure out how to pace these shows?

[shadow oak]

Hopefully not. I really wonder what conversations happened during the writing of Mando S2 that set them down this path of making FIloni's gang the focal point.

[torn garnet]

I like how there is a really good andor->rogue one bubble that exists

[astral spoke]

helps that Andor is relatively uninhibited with characters, mostly just needs to end up with not massive plot holes and less character baggage

[junior fractal]

Genevieve O'Reily is the best "it's all connected" part of d+ star wars

[shadow oak]

Also this being post-Mando S3 raises a lot of questions

[torn garnet]

Yeah I thought the consensus was that it wasn’t

[junior fractal]

does it? the new republic completely ignoring somehting like Gideon is fully on brand for them

[shadow oak]

There's a version of Ahsoka that isn't bogged down with trying to connect the dots and I think that would've been really special. If it were just Baylan/Shin vs Ahsoka/Sabine/Ezra or something I think that is amazing.

[junior fractal]

Leia supporting Hera behind the scenes leads up to her splintering off from the NR to form the resistance

[torn garnet]

I feel like they’re making the new republic flawed and almost unlikeable so we don’t feel bad that they all die

[junior fractal]

yeah lmao the next big event in New Republic history is blowing up

[shadow oak]

It reopens the can of worms that is "why not just bring Luke" again which is going to keep popping up until they recast him and find a way out of this vortex.

[outer sun]

then this is why the first order happened

[astral spoke]

just tell a story not in this timeline, do new star wars stuff

[outer sun]

i wanted to slap the shit out of that senator

https://tenor.com/view/slap-gif-25437963

[torn garnet]

It’s really holding them down, it could’ve been really interesting to see a seriously good and well organized govt for once

[junior fractal]

i've been sayin for years

star wars is at its best when Skywalker is nowhere near it

[shadow oak]

Mando S1 was so good in that regard! It had it's hiccups, but for the most part it was like "oh shit, new story!"

[junior fractal]

high republic stuff could be interesting but i'm sure they'll fuck it up somehow

i actually wouldn't mind a star wars What If? show

[torn garnet]

I remember when they released the timeline with a cool unnamed mandalorian show, an obj wan series, and freaking boba fett series

After mando s1 it was even cooler

[junior fractal]

mando s1 did really well and the higher ups attributed it to filoni instead of favreau

and that's how we ended up where we are i think

[shadow oak]

TRUTH

[torn garnet]

Ooh that could be it

Honestly Bryce Dallas Howard needs to come back where did she go

[shadow oak]

I remember the exact moment I started to hate Filoni and it was during a Mando "behind the scenes" bit, where Favreau was looking at the set and saw the ST helmets on spikes. He asked Dave about the meaning and deliberation behind it and you could tell he was excited about some sort of world building.

And then Filoni was like "I thought it looked cool"

That was the end of our friendship 😂

And tbh I think you kind of see that in this show — and especially this last episode — where he, like, retcons himself? The witch triangle finder + sending troops when just last week Thrawn was like "sorry, can't do it" showcases a writer who doesn't consider the details IMO.

It's why you also get a 3PO cameo for seemingly no reason other than "and then this droid we know shows up and we hold for applause"

I dunno. I was so pumped for this show and feel letdown.

[torn garnet]

Well if it makes you feel any better it looks like a Star Wars drought is on the way. Maybe it’ll change things (hopefully andor s2 will stay in tact)

[junior fractal]

I think Lars Mikkelsen did a really good job this week specifically in us seeing a worried Thrawn, after seeing who Ahsoka's master was

i think this is still before the point in the timeline where the general public learns anakin was vader right

but thrawn was one of the few people who figured it out during the war

[torn garnet]

I’m lost with the night sisters tbh, all I know is that they rode the whales to conquer dathomir

[junior fractal]

every time i see the nightsister triangle i want them to start chanting "the power of three"

am i old if i'm making a Charmed reference

[shadow oak]

I got roasted last week for asking why they needed a map to get there and I still feel like the sisters are doing a really good job at demonstrating why it wasn't necessary

[torn garnet]

I thought their whole schtick was that they were from a place where the force didn’t exist so they had their own galaxy’s form of magic but ig not

[shadow oak]

A simple "just tag along with the whales" would've been far easier

[torn garnet]

Yeah it made me wonder if the whales are good or bend at the will of whoever they feel like

Like are they on Ezra and Ashoka’s side or are they tamed and controlled by the night sisters?

They could easily come back and wreck the hyperspace ring or thrawn again if they really wanted, or the night sisters could force them to take thrawn back

[astral spoke]

maybe they all just get fridged like Stargate universe

[shadow oak]

So that's what I don't really get either. If Ahsoka's #1 goal is to stop Thrawn, wouldn't the move be to destroy the ring and then go check and see if Ezra/Sabine are okay? Wasn't that the message she was giving Sabine just a few episodes back: do the right thing, not the thing you want

[astral spoke]

stuck in ng+ galaxy and this was all for nothing

[dreamy maple]

Lol I used to love charmed

[unreal bay]

Lol it was a mistake reading any of this

[astral spoke]

Loosely rhyming poems are the solution to everything!

[dreamy maple]

I was in middle school ok

[astral spoke]

same, also was not the target audience but charmed was good fun

[torn garnet]

Sorry obi it’s bash city over here 😔

[astral spoke]

I don't hate it. I'm just confused by the pacing

[crisp vine]

This seems to come up a lot for shows in both the MCU and SW

Like we say it after every penultimate episode.

[primal glen]

There has to be s2 still..
There's no way thrawns defeated and we know what in the box for transport.

Why do I feel the box could crossover to Mando or fett 🤔

[torn garnet]

Mando verse movie?

[sand ember]

Disney has somehow made shootouts in Star Wars boring

Also the wide shots of the toti vehicles look SOOOO bad in post

Ezra weak af. Take the saber you dumb ass

Thrawn best part of the show. Balan boring

[sand ember]

Did you see rebels? He was a calculated strategist. But ultimately in the end, he’s basically known for Super sized stations bad, more capital ships and Tie Defenders good.

[shadow oak]

I didn’t watch rebels, so that’s where I’m bumping up against his character. A lot has been implied, but not really shown IMO.

[primal glen]

Who's the one who stopped chopper in court?

[outer sun]

Carson teva

He’s the xwing pilot

[sand ember]

Excuse you he’s a RANGER

https://tenor.com/view/buzz-lightyear-boner-schwing-tumbler-gif-15739986

[outer sun]

Captain ranger

[torn garnet]

Also Ashokas roll from the ship looked fresh from the prequels

[sand ember]

Yeah every cg sequence since Mando 2 have looked really poor

I blame Covid or something

[outer sun]

https://tenor.com/view/spinning-mod-boy-book-of-boba-fett-spinny-boi-gif-24874819

[vagrant charm]

That goes so hard tho

[brave kraken]

I feel like the whales earlier this season were okay but the ones from the last episode looked pretty rough.

[sand ember]

Well, would be nice to spend more time on him if the pacing of this show wasn’t so incredibly bad

[shadow oak]

100% and that’s where last night I was kind of lamenting that we’re here after episode 7, but could’ve/should’ve been here by episode 4

[vocal pelican]

https://x.com/tanosully/status/1706850728981971017?s=20

dea •🤍• is enoch’s #1 fan (@tanosully)

#Ahsoka spoilers

this my lawyer bro i’m going to jail 😭😭

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Twitter · Sep 27, 2023, 1:58 AM

[shadow oak]

Forgot about the part where Sabine drops a “that’s what they say” about the Emperor’s death 😭

[sand ember]

I cringed

[vocal pelican]

"Oh shit thats the guy i got drinks with on Batuu"

[primal glen]

Why do I feel that kylos mask is about to appear here?

[shadow oak]

One of my pods brought up a funny point about how Ahsoka was all “I’m going to chew out Sabine once I see her!”, but kind of played it cool once they reunited because Sabine easily could’ve clapped back with “remember when you wanted to let Ezra die alone?”

(I still can’t believe she hasn’t told him/it hasn’t come up – really bad)

[shadow oak]

https://x.com/swculture/status/1707033134544355629?s=46

Star Wars Culture (@SWCulture)

Looks the same to me. 😵‍💫

#StarWars #Thrawn #EzraBridger

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Twitter · Sep 27, 2023, 2:03 PM

[trim meadow]

These episodes are too short

Disney why

[trim meadow]

Right now that’s high praise for any imperial

[trim meadow]

Yeah he’s silly

Literally could’ve had 20 more minutes of dialogue that way fleshes out the characters

[sand ember]

Oh was Ezra Aladdin?

No they don’t look alike

[waxen field]

I think the Aladdin actor originally campaigned for it

Honestly I don’t think he has the same charm as Eman

[restive tinsel]

Ep 8 better be something crazy like 90 minutes

they're gonna just end up leaving ahsoka, sabine, and ezra stuck out there at the end, with Thrawn heading back

[vocal pelican]

No, but 1st episode of rebels they call him street rat

[primal glen]

I do feel that shin is going to turn on baylan skoll next week.

Just a thought

[trim meadow]

I think probably everyone gets home

I don’t think there’s a very interesting story seeing them sit there trying to figure out a way back while thrawn wreaks havoc on the republic

[silver violet]

Maybe Baylan just wants to channel his inner Luke and what he’s actually looking for is solitude. So everyone leaves the planet and he gets to farm in peace.

[sand ember]

So far there is nothing interesting about Baylan and Shin

Baddies are bad and crave power

Also the difference of dueling for everyone vs Hayden is so obvious, makes me respect Hayden more

Like Hayden is just that good

[waxen field]

I just really want more Hayden

I just keep going back to episode 5

[shadow oak]

The Anakin choreo felt very PT — which I love — whereas everything else feels like this weird blend of OT/ST, which in a vacuum is interesting but nowhere near as fun as the Anakin stuff.

[trim meadow]

Not knowing anything about them isn’t the same as being interesting I agree

[sand ember]

Maybe we get a “twist” like the inquisitor in Obi wan

Otherwise all I know is Baylan former jedi and raised Shin in the forest

[shadow oak]

100% — and that's why I wish we at least got to Thrawn sooner. Giving him more time to cook pre-arrival could've helped the pacing, plot, and stakes. Holding back Ezra until episode 6 would in turn have become more impactful, as we would've been given time to sit around and wonder where he is/is he okay.

Revealing both in the same episode didn't give us enough room to experience that.

[trim meadow]

Yeah I’m really wondering why they are incapable of doing interesting things with dialogue and long shaping scenes

I think that’s what I’ve realized about the Star Wars stuff is that especially with filioni, it’s all plot/action

Andor had fantastic pacing as a comparison

That heist episode? Cracked outta its gourd

[shadow oak]

The heist episode is amazing

And it rolls right into your point: there were two episodes of setup to get us there

I think Filoni's ideas are okay, but he can't hold himself back from dropping them all at once. If he could stretch out some of those concepts into arcs, they would have more impact IMO.

[junior fractal]

oh god he's a wolf

filoni you did it again

[shadow oak]

https://vxtwitter.com/nira_592/status/1705258073252929610?s=46

Feels more like an Easter Egg than plot point

If only because he writes “Chewie”

[trim meadow]

no shot thats canon

[vagrant charm]

Yeah they do that all the time with filler aurebesh lol

[trim meadow]

why wouldnt he know about luke leia and han

and BEN KENOBI

[torn garnet]

This small Easter egg will lead to some crazy story in 10 years

[shadow oak]

But what if Ben SOLO!?

[trim meadow]

how old is he, like 5?

[shadow oak]

Is he even born? A thought?

[trim meadow]

Ben, however is 29 years old at the time of The Force Awakens
Ashoka is 11 aby and tfa is 34 aby so hes 6

[shadow oak]

https://x.com/theturfdunedain/status/1706088717650415715?s=46

Clifford Carpenter (@TheTurfDunedain)

@CultureCrave @Nira_592 This almost solidifies he's the reboot of Joruus C'Baoth. C'Baoth wanted Luke for his "new Jedi order," and Luke wouldn't budge. Next, he wanted Leia and her twins. Thrawn agreed to help him. Baylans' attitude is almost indentical, and he's likely hoping for the same from Thrawn.

Twitter · Sep 24, 2023, 11:30 PM

[fans] will literally [write that tweet] instead of [letting something be an Easter egg]

[trim meadow]

The clone of joruus asked?

[junior fractal]

"this almost solidifies the reboot of Glup Shitto"

[trim meadow]

Oh yeah okay

Baylan didn’t ask thrawn for anything though lol

[dreamy maple]

There's just too much star wars lore

You can make up something from anything

[trim meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/bruce-almighty-god-thats-the-beauty-of-it-gif-16995320

[dreamy maple]

no it leads to insane fans

[unreal bay]

[trim meadow]

I feel attacked

[crisp vine]

https://www.instagram.com/p/Cxv1fJyOipC/

shinzchang

Master and Apprentice
#shinhati #baylanskoll #jediknight #jedi #ivannasakhno #raystevenson 😢
#ahsoka #ahsokaseries #digitalwatercolor #watercolorpainting #lightsaber #jedi #sith

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[primal glen]

Considering how this connects to multiple shows, definitely true

[vagrant charm]

I think I have actual brain damage because there’s been like 3 separate times in the show where ahsoka leans towards Huyang and I think she’s gonna kiss him for some reason

[shadow oak]

Even if the finale is packed with narrative and revelations, I still think they did a diservice to the show's potential by punting its responsbility down the line and into another show/movie

Which is the exact problem the MCU has, and that saddens me.

[trim meadow]

I mean there’s clearly plans for ahsoka season 2 in my mind at least

[shadow oak]

Oh for sure, but that doesn't mean you can't have a coherent season of TV

[trim meadow]

Finding Ezra/thrawn and bringing them back to the republic seems okay to me

The way that it’s been happening has been bad, but I don’t think the entire angle is completely fraudulent

[shadow oak]

To be fair this is the same issue pre-packaged trilogies run into (Forbidden Beasts), where they arbitralilary withhold key plot points for films 2 and 3, which actively drags down the quality of the lead-in assets.

[vagrant charm]

So forgettable you forgot the name lol

[trim meadow]

What plot points do you think are being withheld here?

[shadow oak]

☠️ — is it Forgotten Beasts? Now I have to google...

[vagrant charm]

I still think fantastic beasts 2 is the funniest studio tent pole I’ve ever seen

the 20 minute flashback explanation scene

The fucking baby swap

[shadow oak]

In this case I think they've stretched 4-episodes of content into 8-episodes, from which we're getting a season 2 that might've been better served as the back half of season 1

[trim meadow]

I mean this is what I mean by the way it’s been happening. I think the entire goal of getting thrawn and Ezra back is a good season long goal

Just finding them would be bad, so im glad they didn’t go that route

[shadow oak]

I agree

[vagrant charm]

Imo the baylan/shin story is the most interesting part by far

Because there’s some mystery around it

[trim meadow]

Could’ve added some stuff there to get the episodes feel like more happens

I think also Sabine and ahsoka could’ve been together for longer

[vagrant charm]

Also the character interactions have been very weird

Like I want to see Ezra pissed at Sabine

[shadow oak]

I'm willing to go so far as to say I don't even think this is Filoni's fault. I think this is Kathleen and a content strategy team saying "hey maybe let's slow walk this and reduce churn by fleshing out the key story beats in another property"

[trim meadow]

Too macro for me lol

I’m not sure what other property they can put the ahsoka story in

[shadow oak]

Because I'm in alignment with you — there's a version of this where it's awesome and feels significant minute-to-minute, while also maintaing the "hunt for thrawn + ezra" as this season's lighthouse

[shadow oak]

Isn't all of this leading up to a crossover movie?

[trim meadow]

Like I just think filoni is outmatched here

[trim meadow]

After at least 1 more ahsoka season imo

And 1 more mando season

[shadow oak]

I don't think "prestige" or "peak" tv suits what he is trying to do.

@dreamy maple said it best I think, that in an 18-episode animated show this is all relatively fine and par for the course

[trim meadow]

Right

[dreamy maple]

Dangling the carrot

[dreamy maple]

You’re horny

[shadow oak]

Also: they have to recast Luke, Leia, and maybe even Han at this point. Rip that band-aid off and unleash a wave of storytelling potential by bringing our big three back into the mix more regularly

[vagrant charm]

Ok but the show would be better if everyone was kissing each other

[dreamy maple]

Ahsoka has the most chemistry with a cgi robot

Yes agreed

[vagrant charm]

All I’m saying is

Ezra was alone with those turtles for a long ass time

That’s what I want a show about

[shadow oak]

I can think of one podcast that already made a joke about Ezra and Sabine during the turtle chase

[trim meadow]

Did I miss something btw regarding leia, when did Hera ever talk to her

[shadow oak]

Literally never — that was an unexplained and super convenient out

Honestly that entire scene should've been cut

[trim meadow]

The entire council should’ve been cut

[vagrant charm]

But then I can’t point at the screen when c3po shows up

[trim meadow]

There’s no other concern that we see that the republic is facing

[vagrant charm]

Yeah it was pointless

[trim meadow]

It makes zero sense not to authorize a small force to check out the stuff that’s happening

[shadow oak]

I like the idea of someone who just scooped a too big bite of cereal into their mouth seeing C3PO and muttering "Star Wars!"

[trim meadow]

Also that other republic ship saw the whales

The more I think about that scene the more wtf I am

[vagrant charm]

Literally what the scene is. Idek get the point of it genuinely. At least the anakin hologram made sense

[trim meadow]

Like if they are gonna let Hera off the hook, why not just do it in the confines of the council

You didn’t need needlessly antagonistic senator

Grrr

[shadow oak]

When this came up earlier in the season, it was such a head smack moment because it's not like other stories haven't used this as a plot device before. But it's often handled with a little more grace and someone begrudgingly sending, like, the worst two cops to go help investigate. And then one of them stays corrupt, but the other turns towards the cause and is the catalyst for sounding the alarm.

Like it's all right there. We see this in every dime-a-dozen action movie.

[shadow oak]

IMO the worst part about it is that the blocking and editing is for, like, a "Filmed in front of a live studio audience!" show

When he shows up — just like Jacen before him — there is a "hold for applause" beat

[trim meadow]

“You cannot go see this weird thing that’s happening because of uh I don’t feel like it”

[shadow oak]

It also seems like there's an overwhelming amount of evidence at this point? Even before the show begins.

[vagrant charm]

The pause was so noticeable

[trim meadow]

Of Morgan and the mercenaries yes

They caused an incident in corellia

Like if they were in active war or something I get it

But we see literally nothing else happening

They are so free as to have the council convene JUST for Hera

[shadow oak]

Yea, it's all weird. And Xiono is far too stupid and/or corrupt to make any of it feel sincere.

I'm shocked Hera didn't bring up the hyperspace ring schematics for him to respond with "maybe someone wanted the biggest engagement ring in the galaxy — how do we know what that's being used for!?"

[trim meadow]

Lol nobody has any modicum of logic

[shadow oak]

Xiono's mannerisms remind me of the student in this scene: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1seWmy53FZk

[trim meadow]

Also talking about ahsoka getting tracked by the witches, I don’t know why the same effect, flushing ahsoka out, couldn’t have also been achieved by just going after Ezra/Sabine but leaving time for her to realize they are in danger

So we don’t get the plot hole of witches not tracking Ezra

Like we don’t care about them

[shadow oak]

The Witch Radar ™️ gets worse the more you think about it

[trim meadow]

I would like to stop thinking about it lol

[shadow oak]

Because Ezra also seems to have been training his Force No Jutsu over the last ten years, so presumably at some point they would've had a tingling to investitage that feeling as well, no?

But TBH even that you can solve with dialouge — have Thrawn say he was keeping Ezra on the board as bait and we can say "ok"

Same goes for the "I had to wait until you arrived to start packing cargo on my ship"

Just toss in a little "they had to stay underground" or something to give a reason, otherwise it all just seems so silly

[trim meadow]

Yeah

Not super difficult to do lol

Or maybe their stuff doesn’t work on planet

Idk

Just give us something

“Too much interference from that weird force thing”

[shadow oak]

In the 13-seconds they had the very regular (and arguably dumber) stormtroopers not shoot at Ezra and Sabine, they could've dropped all of the above and solved this 😂

[trim meadow]

Idk that was pretty funny

[sand ember]

I thought the council scene was gonna get her demoted so all of them can get back together again full time.

https://tenor.com/view/gangs-all-here-spongebob-lonely-friends-forever-alone-gif-9619934

[primal glen]

I didn't expect c3p0 to ever come in before movie 7

[sand ember]

As much as I dislike Anthony Daniels, his appearance there didn’t bother me too much

I would’ve preferred Jar Jar

Senators and senatress, meesa your humble servant is here on behalf of General Organa

[astral spoke]

the whole scene felt pointless and I wonder if they have a plan for the payoff

[primal glen]

Well resistance comes 5
Years later so I don't think we'll see anymore about the council

[shadow oak]

Why did they spell it that way

[shadow oak]

I still can’t get over how short he looked next to Hera

It was like a child droid

Ohh — thought I was missing something

[unreal bay]

https://fxtwitter.com/jordanmaison/status/1707398042616205553?s=46&t=09cA0y3oOR76a3l3x2zBjA

https://youtu.be/0rlugDqJOJ8?feature=shared

https://fxtwitter.com/kyber_kat/status/1707426429951262782?s=46&t=09cA0y3oOR76a3l3x2zBjA

[shadow oak]

Here's another one on my mind: Thrawn says Baylan is missing/going off script and not where he should be, however Ahsoka stops to fight Baylan in the middle of nowhere anyway, which all the sudden makes Thrawn's plan work and successfully delays Ahsoka.

Who, in turn, thinks she was successful because she took Baylan off the map, but he was off the map anyway.

I don't really understand the logistics of that.

[crisp vine]

Sounds like none of the sides knew what the others were doing and just acted based on what they assumed.

[trim meadow]

I think the delaying ahsoka wasn’t necessarily Thrawn’s plan with baylan, just that without baylan there they couldn’t defeat all the jedi

Ahsoka fighting baylan was pointless yeah

In like our understanding

[shadow oak]

Only if she goes after Baylan, who wasn't interested in the fight anyway.

That's what I don't get.

Oh, true. Yea, I guess so long as she isn't sabering his ring into pieces it's a win.

[trim meadow]

Yeah this was the crucial part for thrawn

[shadow oak]

This fell flat for me, but I feel like I'm missing something crucial from the cartoons and that's why.

Like he acted his ass off in that moment, which was cool.

[trim meadow]

Uh books

Lol

They meet in the new books

[shadow oak]

Ohhh

[trim meadow]

Welcome to Disney

[shadow oak]

Y'all trying to make me read now too!?

[trim meadow]

On batuu

Of all places

I think Thrawn’s interactions with darth vader in rebels

[shadow oak]

Her being a wild card = fighting someone who already retired 😂

[junior fractal]

What, you don't want to read "Thrawn and Vader vacation at Galaxy's Edge" for the missing crucial plot?

[trim meadow]

Is some stuff

[shadow oak]

Only if Vi is in it somehow

Is Vi dead?

[junior fractal]

or would you prefer "Ben Solo was conceived aboard the Halcyon"

[trim meadow]

Disney doesn’t care about vi lol

She’s barely out these days

[shadow oak]

Low key I just want a sequence where a whiney Ben is like "But Uncle Luke I'm tireddddddd"

[sand ember]

the sad part is is that angelic wasn't kidding

[livid jetty]

Which Skywalker can whine more?

[dreamy maple]

They put Vi in one book and expected people to care

[unreal bay]

Two 🤓

[dreamy maple]

You're a fake stars wars fan not liking KOTOR so i don't listen to you anymore about thee star wars

[unreal bay]

Understandable

[dreamy maple]

plus she barely in phasma

[unreal bay]

🤏

[dreamy maple]

and technically she has more appearances than just the 2 lol

[sand ember]

Oh damn I just found out about the actor for Baylan

[silver violet]

This man lives under a rock.

[waxen field]

FUCKING JIGA

[sand ember]

https://tenor.com/view/great-teacher-onizuka-gto-realization-doomed-scared-gif-4330346

Me going past a Reddit post about who could replace the actor

[unreal bay]

He ate

[silver violet]

This man is thinking about farming.

“How can I generate me some blue milk?”

[unreal bay]

https://x.com/kyber_kat/status/1707899457554034775?s=46&t=09cA0y3oOR76a3l3x2zBjA

kat (@kyber_kat)

the use of “we” in this line implies the ghost crew as a unit—that hera & zeb are part of the “we” who’ve been searching for ezra—but luckily I’m totally able to absorb that knowledge in a normal & healthy way (I am crying)

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Twitter · Sep 29, 2023, 11:25 PM

[shadow oak]

https://x.com/swculture/status/1708514616509137142?s=46

Star Wars Culture (@SWCulture)

Can’t wait to watch! 🧐

#StarWars #Ahsoka #EzraBridger

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Twitter · Oct 1, 2023, 4:10 PM

[primal glen]

I'm still expecting baylans end.. there's no way they recast him for a S2

[astral spoke]

which is a shame IMHO because he's the most interesting part of the show

unless they start giving thrawn and Ashoka something to do plotwise

[shadow oak]

I hope they do recast him and not just axe the best part of the show

Bring in Liev Schreiber or something

Even better: Nick Offerman

[dreamy maple]

Give Ahsoka something in her own show?? Crazy talk.

[shadow oak]

Darth Swanson

[astral spoke]

it's a shame because I think Dawson does a good job with the role but the writing just isn't there

[shadow oak]

This is very much SABINE

And that is also a confusing character journey because her arc feels at direct odds with the “lesson” Ahsoka learned in her episode with Anakin

(ie child soldiers carry guilt/trauma, which Sabine doesn’t at all)

Finale pending, this has felt like a 7-episode long trailer for the movie

[trim meadow]

theres gonna be a second season, i refuse to believe they go straight from this to the movie

imagine the movie is just they kill all the heros with snoke and the first order rises

that would be amazing

[shadow oak]

I would be so down for that

I hope they have the guts to make our characters pay for their actions and/or require sacrifices

[sand ember]

If everyone would stop crossing their god damn arms

[shadow oak]

I would think it’s more that this leads into the other shows, which then lead into the movie. So more of an indirect trailer, but — finale pending — if season 2 is anything like season 1, I think it would be apparent that they’re stalling for something larger (which is bad)

Unless they give me a Shin for Sabine trade, which would be interesting. The crumbs are there.

[trim meadow]

filoni definetly would not do this

[trim meadow]

yeah i getcha

[shadow oak]

I mean he has to put Sabine at odds with the group in a more meaningful way, otherwise he solidifies himself as a hack

Having Ezra be big mad – followed by an Ahsoka “and that’s why you always leave a note” lesson – is the perfect setup to make her turn to something

And we have the groundwork for Shin questioning how Baylan/Thrawn work + being given the way out by Ahsoka

So player swap + a kicker (Sabine rats out Ezra?) and we’re cooking

[trim meadow]

theres no way this is gonna happen, sorry lol

[shadow oak]

https://tenor.com/view/cry-sad-crying-sad-eyes-rajabets-gif-16638167643526707120

[junior fractal]

yeah unfortunately that's putting way too much effort and thought into it

it's more likely that Mando shows up out of nowhere and shoots Thrawn, problem solved

[trim meadow]

rebels is filoni's second child

behind ahsoka

[shadow oak]

Grogu will stop an explosion with the force yet again

[trim meadow]

to give some more context, this would be the same as like obi wan flipping sides against yoda in episode 3

[shadow oak]

The kicker is harsh, but the table is set for both Ahsoka and Ezra to reject Sabine. There’s just no way allowing Thrawn back into the mix and undoing Ezra’s sacrifice can result in “hey, it happens but friendship > galaxy”

[trim meadow]

That bottom line is basically rebels up till the last episode

I completely understand where you are coming from, and I think that would be super interesting

It’s just filioni would never

[dreamy maple]

I hope the movie is just named SNOKE

[trim meadow]

opening scene is another hallway on a mandalorian ship where snoke comes outta the smoke and destroys bo katan

[dreamy maple]

Lmaaooo they would never

It would be funny as hell if the first order killed off all these characters though to keep the continuity

[trim meadow]

It would answer alllll the questions lol

Phasma takes out sabine and ezra

[shadow oak]

The worst part about Phasma is they went 0-2. How do you mess up both times ☠️

[frail dock]

https://x.com/petersciretta/status/1708555699171770752?s=61&t=hmbGvLRzLbXCqSDBrIWxgg

Peter Sciretta (@PeterSciretta)

What if the finale of Ahsoka pulls a Book of Boba Fett and just becomes an episode of The Mandalorian 😆

Twitter · Oct 1, 2023, 6:53 PM

[shadow oak]

It wouldn’t be the most shocking thing if the good guys get stranded and Ahsoka’s first thought is to reach out to Grogu

IMO episode 5’s main function was to re-establish WBW/ForceTime™️ and have that be the way out when Ahsoka initiates a group chat between Anakin, Grogu, and Luke

[trim meadow]

so far the movies/shows doesnt show the jedi having an ability to travel through the hyperspace lanes

like navigate

ending season 1 with thrawn coming back and them stranded would be a fuckin horrible ending lol

[shadow oak]

I mean I hope it’s not the above, because that would undo so much of the lore to date.

Eager to see how they play it/tease it and have my🤞that it’s not something Ezra and Thrawn could’ve done but chose not to, like go into a scary cave or repair some old ship.

[sand ember]

Undo what lore

[shadow oak]

If the WBW is a solve for bringing back people from the dead, traveling, going back in time, etc it’s basically like introducing a cellphone to Seinfeld or Friends. It renders 90% of those plot points meaningless because you could’ve just texted or went into the WBW to figure it out in the PT/OT/ST

(Or were you being sarcastic? In which case: ☠️)

[sand ember]

I wasn’t being sarcastic. I’m just not sure how stranding the protags on the planet while Bluelon escapes would undo lore

Nobody really knows how to get into the WBW right

It just “happens”

[shadow oak]

I meant that the good guys using the WBW to escape would be another “well why wasn’t every Jedi using that” moment

[sand ember]

Oh okay

[astral spoke]

I'm still not convinced they don't retcon sequels and we get kylo and rey alternate retelling

[trim meadow]

Whaa?

[shadow oak]

ScreenCrush kind of went there too (https://youtu.be/QoFKP3NCT5c)

Connecting to the moment that Ezra has with Kanan in the WBW and being told not to try and change the past

But maybe Baylan thinks he can and effs everything up

[sand ember]

This is a wild take

Absurd even

The ink from the sequels haven’t even dried yet

If anything this would only happen in the Rey movie

[trim meadow]

Remaking the sequels without the original cast is fuckin wild

OT cast

[astral spoke]

"wild" "absurd" as DC does this exact thing and Marvel/Disney flails wildly with live action remakes

[sand ember]

I don’t acknowledge DCs existence

[trim meadow]

is it working for DC lol

star wars is different than marvel/disney

[astral spoke]

we don't know if it works for DC yet. also, how are they not that different?

in the end, it's a meaningless theory based on them introducing the multiverse and or time travel, who knows really.

[sand ember]

I don’t even know how theyre treating the WBW honestly

Not sure where the timeline/time travel stuff is coming from

[shadow oak]

https://youtu.be/h5Vi2JpQtnM?feature=shared

Whether it’s possible who knows

But the tracks are there

[trim meadow]

bagel watched some parts of rebels!

even if it was from a speculation vid

[sand ember]

Oooooooh wow

Completely forgot about that part

[astral spoke]

so...not that absurd, plus if they redo it, then batu remains timeline/refreshed canon as they rework the characters

I give it a 5% chance of happening, but it's not 0

[sand ember]

.000001

https://tenor.com/view/han-solo-never-odds-tell-me-star-wars-gif-4901664

[trim meadow]

star wars literally aint this lol

again, redoing the ST without the OT actors is completely insane

[astral spoke]

why? it's the thing a lot of people want

[trim meadow]

find me 1 person that wants that

[shadow oak]

Isn’t there apparently a JJ cut of TROS

[frail dock]

Hot take, they’ll remake OT before they redo sequels

[trim meadow]

idk lotta rumors about tros

i dont see what the point of remaking anything in star wars first of all, theres a wealth of stuff to pull from

[astral spoke]

new characters, new stories

[shadow oak]

Wrey Ray Skywalker

[trim meadow]

i mean at this point with mando they cant even reboot the ST into something other than first order etc

[frail dock]

I honestly feel like they are making a somewhat big mistake in how they are trying to handle the next Saga. I feel like trying to do more Rey is a mistake, unless she’s playing the Han/Obi-Wan role and is only in first film.

[astral spoke]

I don't think it's a redo, it's the core finn ray kylo characters, following a different path

[trim meadow]

why would they spend 250 million on this?

[astral spoke]

see: Secret Invasion

[trim meadow]

marvel and star wars are completely different

[frail dock]

I honestly think though skipping ahead past Rey having established an order already would be far more interesting though.

[shadow oak]

Because The Force Reawakens willl do $2B

[astral spoke]

lemme just check who owns both....oh right, they're not that different

[trim meadow]

not without harrison ford and etc

which is the point im making

[shadow oak]

Bring him back again

[trim meadow]

i think doing what luke did in EU but with rey would be kinda interesting

[astral spoke]

it's not like the universe unravels of they make a start wars movie without Harrison Ford

[trim meadow]

whos saying that lol

[astral spoke]

you?

[trim meadow]

Im saying if they redo the ST and recast Han luke and leia, that would be a tremendous waste of time and money

[frail dock]

Idk I just think unless Rey is super old in this next movie, keeping it within the same roughly 90 years (assuming this movies set about 20 years after or so TROS) from TPM is a bit of a mistake.

[trim meadow]

universe after TROS is wide open though

they can literally do anything

[astral spoke]

why recast. just don't include the characters and let the new ones forge their own story unhindered

[frail dock]

Yeah, so why not go 100 years after is my point I guess.

[trim meadow]

because luke leia and han wouldve existed?

[frail dock]

Maybe they will, I’d be over joyed if Rey is 130 years old in the next film

[trim meadow]

just make new characters and set it in a different time

which seems to be the plan

[trim meadow]

because its either gonna be too much change or no change

if you start 130 rey in a jedi temple with a million jedi, thats too much

if you start 130 year old rey with 1-2-3 10 jedi and little else changes, thats too little

[unreal bay]

This channel needs to be launched into the sun

[frail dock]

You are choosing the extremes though. Theres a balance between those two options.

[frail dock]

Basically can be said about any Star Wars/Marvel convo on this server.

[trim meadow]

I mean im saying I dont think you can

what would your ideal start be with 130 year old rey

[shadow oak]

https://tenor.com/view/titanic-old-lady-finally-its-been84years-rose-de-witt-bukater-gif-4713500

[frail dock]

This is my absolute ideal way to start it, its not taking into account that Ridley is the “lead” of the films. Jedi Order is established and mid sized, a few hundred to a thousand Jedi. They’ve retaken there role as mostly peacekeepers, the government isnt centralized anymore as many systems disagree on the best way to do so without another empire rising, so Jedi have become a go between of a bunch of smaller coalitions that have risen up. Rey is on a mission to a new planet and winds up dead/missing and a Jedi and his Padawan are sent to find her.

I’ll admit its a tad too similar to TFA

But the poetry aspect of Star Wars appeals to me so I don’t dislike that completely

[trim meadow]

i mean if thats the case, it could easily be 20-30 years after

with the amount of upheavel in the previous 30-40 years, feels unrealistic for 100 years to go by without a major conflict

going into more local governments makes sense though i like that

[frail dock]

Who said there wasn’t a major conflict? There could have been, it can be mentioned and discussed a bit without us needing to see it directly.

A New Hope mentions “the Clone Wars” and we have no idea what that is

Its mentioned and its flavor to the universe.

[shadow oak]

I want Jedi: Civil War

[trim meadow]

i mean the storytelling thing is that you are watching the most important part of someones life right

so youd have to have this thing be bigger

idk

[trim meadow]

i want Bane

https://tenor.com/view/bane-batman-gif-12311761

[unreal bay]

https://fxtwitter.com/captainrex_7567/status/1708854868721439211?s=46&t=09cA0y3oOR76a3l3x2zBjA

[astral spoke]

I think theres plenty of room to say it's not a retcon but a multiverse take on the story. what if the Rey and kylo story didn't end in 3 neat movies, what if Rey never meets Luke, etc

[astral spoke]

what if Snoke is the big bad for a little while. it's not likely but it seems possible so far in Ashoka

WBW always seemed like a dodgy thing to introduce into star wars imho

[trim meadow]

I think it’s a non issue honestly

The characters only ever used it for personal development, not plot development

[shadow oak]

House of R floated the idea that the finale might break the show into two: Ahsoka (stranded!) and then Rebels (Hera!)

[astral spoke]

except that time it literally saves Ahsoka from dying at the hands of Vader tho right?

[junior fractal]

wait is the council guy from the last ep someone from the sequels

[shadow oak]

This was kind of the gradient to lead us into a more clean and deliberate narrative

[unreal bay]

He’s Kaz’s dad

[junior fractal]

who tf is kaz lmao

[trim meadow]

I mean vader survived the collapse of the temple, no reason ahsoka couldn’t have

[unreal bay]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-kazuda-xiono-scoffs-sigh-star-wars-resistance-gif-22230870

[shadow oak]

Forgot that was even a show tbh

[astral spoke]

he was literally about to strike her down lol, WBW was pivotable in Ahsoka even being alive right now

[crisp vine]

I like when people speculate that Star Wars is going multiversal and then Filoni is like "nah. I have it all mapped out in this one universe."

[astral spoke]

I don't know why you even introduce WBW though, just feels messy for a universe that didn't need it, if you want it to be about the force realm, sure. but time travel? they even note that Ezra cant save Kanan because of how it would shift timelines or whatever.

[crisp vine]

It's not so much time travel as it is simply a place within the force that connects all.

[astral spoke]

..if you can go back in time and save someone from dying just before they die, is that not time travel?

[unreal bay]

Ahsoka was never meant to die there though

[junior fractal]

wasn't the whole point in rebels though was that he couldn't use it to save kanan

[shadow oak]

I took it as “shouldn’t”

[junior fractal]

was it a couldn't or shouldn't

i don't remember

[astral spoke]

he saved Ahsoka, reason seems to be he could but shouldn't

[unreal bay]

Kanan sacrificed himself and undoing that would have repercussions

[astral spoke]

Ahsoka framed it as "he sacrificed himself to save you all, what happens if he's not there to do that"

[dreamy maple]

[trim meadow]

lets just move on from wdw

or whatever the acronym is

[unreal bay]

World detween worlds

[junior fractal]

walt disney worlds

[astral spoke]

it's been a key plot point but yes, let's ignore it lol

[trim meadow]

in ahsoka?

how

[unreal bay]

Lmao

[trim meadow]

she couldve been dreaming

force hallucinations dont make a certain location a key plot point

in rebels they had to physically go there, here she didnt sooo therefore it wasnt wbw 🙂

[unreal bay]

#1142178451416166601 message

[shadow oak]

But Jacen and Hera heard the lightsabers

[trim meadow]

force hallucations affect all people

[trim meadow]

i agree, i would like to talk about how they are gonna infiltrate the super star destroyer

[shadow oak]

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-solid-mgs-playstation-stealth-sneaking-gif-18131681

[crisp vine]

Here's the plan. In the dead of night, they grab some provisions, hijack one of those longboats, and then row back to Spain like there's no manana!

[sand ember]

Imma settle this

WBW in Ahsoka was just Filoni being Filoni

Hey y’all remember when I did THIS?!

We’re never going to hear or see WBW again. Bet

[fluid hill]

[sand ember]

https://tenor.com/view/bih-okay-florida-2x-brooker2x-gif-13490950

[shadow oak]

Tomorrow’s episode is named War of the World Between Worlds

[astral spoke]

heh, I'm more than 80% on the plot points I gave you earlier now based on this

[sand ember]

I think he was joking

[shadow oak]

https://tenor.com/view/its-true-all-of-it-rey-star-wars-force-awakens-gif-4976962

[unreal bay]

I’m ready

[brave kraken]

https://twitter.com/starwars/status/1709195376635318591

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[primal glen]

Here we go

[vagrant charm]

That was maybe the most embarrassing piece of television I’ve ever seen

[shadow oak]

That was terrible

[vagrant charm]

Even up to the very ending I thought they might do something interesting (like reveal what’s in the crates) but no

[primal glen]

S2 it is then..

[vagrant charm]

also this is literally the same ending as obi wan lol

[primal glen]

So who's next then in the list .. because now we got 3 shows running into the same timeline

[shadow oak]

Sabine never told Ezra what she did

That is borderline insane

Also:

T: it's impossible for them to catch up

• a few moments later *
  T: we have to stop them because they are literally about to get on the ship

[vagrant charm]

I was holding out hope that it would just be ahsoka and elsbeth left behind and they could become lovers it’s a fun parallel to the rebels ending

Also Ezra should just tell them to nuke dathomir

Problem solved

[shadow oak]

Their fight was pretty cool at least

[waxen field]

I enjoyed it - it’s clear they’re aiming for a season 2 or something here.

[silver violet]

Yeah, the fluidity of movement and strikes to the drums was very well done.

Meanwhile, Ezra's and Sabine's fight was poorly choreographed.

[shadow oak]

So bad 😦

[waxen field]

The mortis gods references were great

[vagrant charm]

Best part of the episode

[silver violet]

I'm sorry, you showed Ezra just fighting with the Force, but all of a sudden, he has to resort to hand-to-hand combat without it?

[waxen field]

I literally was like

[shadow oak]

Immediately thought of this

[vagrant charm]

I also like the bombing run shot with the horses

That was interesting looking

Also like what was up with Marrok lol

[waxen field]

https://tenor.com/view/leonardo-dicaprio-leo-gif-22301847

[shadow oak]

So I was thinking about this -- after what they showed us last week, I was like "oh he's about to go Force Ninja on them" and .. he didn't

[vagrant charm]

We need to stop ending on force ghosts

I am so tired

[shadow oak]

I was expecting him to be really far away but he was ghosting right in their face 😂

[silver violet]

But they have to watch over us like approving parents!

[vagrant charm]

It would be really funny if one day they end a Star Wars thing and it’s just a random force ghost watching over the characters

Like yaddle

[shadow oak]

Nathan Fielder

With his laptop from The Rehearsal

[primal glen]

Well now hera and chopper know ezras alive...there's just a few more left to note.

I do have a odd feeling on xiono though

I know his son is in resistance but something is still off about him

[vagrant charm]

Honestly the show should’ve ended with them opening up the crates and it’s a bunch of red yodas

who are evil

[shadow oak]

Honestly Sabine with the force pull and super push was too much for me

I'm not as mad as I thought I'd be, but it felt like way too much too quickly

[vagrant charm]

Yeah

I don’t really like her being a force user

Feels like a little much idk

[shadow oak]

She pulls one saber and was like "bro just jump I figured this whole thing out off screen"

[vagrant charm]

Also like why did ezra take so long to take off the helmet

is he stupid?

[primal glen]

I wonder how bo katan will feel about this. If the 2 shows combine

[silver violet]

That’s what I was saying!

[shadow oak]

Why not have it off the moment you steal the ship???

[silver violet]

Like bro, are you trying to get shot?

[shadow oak]

Also how did you get away with that!?

[junior fractal]

Okay that wasn’t “last ep of secret invasion” bad but that wasn’t good

Also pretty bleak as far as Star Wars endings go

[silver violet]

Also, you think Thrawn just somehow overlooks a ship leaving his port unauthorized?

[shadow oak]

Honestly not a great episode for him as a genius

[junior fractal]

$10 says “Shadows in Starlight” is the name of Filoni’s movie

[waxen field]

I’m telling you though, Ezra knows how to do shit as far as faking being a stormtrooper

[junior fractal]

Yeah that’s fair

[waxen field]

He would not have left unauthorized

He would have gotten the ship off as an authorized flight then gotten it off the radar

Boy ain’t that stupid

[junior fractal]

So the shot of Baylan Skoll at the end was definitely statues of the Father and Son right

[waxen field]

Yes!

[vagrant charm]

I’m of two minds about the force god stuff

Like it’s cool

But I feel like a new galaxy should’ve been a way to introduce a new/different force mythology

[junior fractal]

But now they either drop that plot entirely or recast him

[silver violet]

Oh, that wasn’t Lord of the Rings?

[waxen field]

It’s going to need a recast sadly

[vagrant charm]

I thought it was a giant statue of himself at first

[shadow oak]

Big GOT and LOTR vibes with he and Shin

[vagrant charm]

Which honestly would’ve been sick

[waxen field]

You’ve got shin too

[silver violet]

I thought he carved it himself.

[junior fractal]

Props to Filoni for knowing people would see Shin and go “I can fix her” and he preemptively went “no you can’t”

[silver violet]

https://tenor.com/view/remember-me-futurama-bender-john-di-maggio-gif-4922773

Season 2. Done.

[vagrant charm]

If I was shin I’d be mad as hell

[junior fractal]

100%

[vagrant charm]

nothing to do but chill with a bunch of raiders

[shadow oak]

I think they need to take back some control from Filoni tbh

[vagrant charm]

Like I’d wanna go on a force quest

[shadow oak]

Let someone else better at TV run these characters around d

[silver violet]

I’d love to see Shin’s reaction to this whole thing and the ship leaving in front of her.

And essentially abandoned by her master.

[junior fractal]

Also now the owl shows up?

[shadow oak]

Ok who or what is hedwig

Is that a rebels thing

[silver violet]

It was delivering mail.

[astral spoke]

why did I watch this, basically nothing happened

[junior fractal]

Yes

It’s the spirit of the Daughter that’s tied to Ahsoka

Aka the good part of the force

[vagrant charm]

Still mad they killed off elsbeth

She was mothering

[junior fractal]

Actually wait was Mortis in TCW or Rebels

That had to be tcw right

[waxen field]

Clone Wars

[junior fractal]

Why could Sabine sense ghost anakin here though that makes zero sense

But also it’s kind of pointless to argue what makes sense when they just went full on zombies

Just here for the ride at this point

[vagrant charm]

Ghost anakin making himself look like he’s 30 still is the real crazy part

[shadow oak]

Sabine proved that if you can’t use the force you just aren’t trying hard enough

[waxen field]

Honestly I just want more Hayden

[silver violet]

Being a Force Ghost is great on the skin.

Or maybe it’s Maybelline.

[waxen field]

Filoni when given both the chair and the script can cook

[junior fractal]

We only recognize one Force Ghost Anakin in this house

[vagrant charm]

The goat

[astral spoke]

Everyone: Ahsoka is coming.
Thrawn: let's just do that preflight check a couple dozen more times

[shadow oak]

Really didn’t like how that entire sequence was presented

[silver violet]

“I don’t underestimate the Jedi.”
But you had all this extra time after blasting down their ship, bro.

[shadow oak]

Also sent objectively the two worst tie fighters of all time

[silver violet]

And his own emphasis on meeting them on the ground. I thought he was going to dig traps and shit.

His whole philosophy of controlling the chaos and corralling the unexpected/unpredictable had them right where he wanted them. And they still got past him.

[shadow oak]

We needed some canon fodder on the Ahsoka side to have eaten it during the sky barrage

That stuff lands so flat when it’s basically just a laser maze for the heroes to navigate

[silver violet]

I thought Huyang was going to sacrifice himself and the ship to somehow get them on the star destroyer.

[astral spoke]

the force jump was just...so unnecessary

[shadow oak]

I was expecting a force dash too

Go full TPM

[silver violet]

I thought they were going to Force Rubberband, honestly. Force pull each other in the air towards the ship.

[shadow oak]

That’s what it sounded like initially

I was expecting them to jump at the same time and maybe a jet pack would come into it or something

[astral spoke]

well... see you in 1.5 years when something might get resolved I guess

Baylen needs a recast because I'm interested, I'm pretty sure I can guess what he's after and how people might get back to galaxy classic but it's gonna be a loooong wait

[junior fractal]

Try 3 probably

[silver violet]

“You got Ezra home.”
Ahsoka, homegirl, I don’t think the countless number of people who are about die in an oncoming war will share that same sentiment.

[junior fractal]

If they go straight to the movie without another season of this

[astral spoke]

I assume we'll see something Thrawn in one of the other shows

[shadow oak]

Thrawn was underwhelming after all was said and done

[astral spoke]

also...how does Luke NOT get involved in dealing with Thrawn in the new galaxy. I don't know much about the canon between OT and ST but...

[shadow oak]

This episode in particular just really doesn’t make him seem like he’s leaps and bounds above other admirals

[junior fractal]

so ezra mentioned thrawn "woke up" the great mothers

the cargo they were loading is totally more nightsisters isn't it

[livid jetty]

Are we not going to talk about The Lion, The Witch and The Wardrobe?

[junior fractal]

yeah Perridea is just Narnia

and Mortis = Mordor apparently with that last shot of Baylan

[outer sun]

zombie stormtroopers